The Rise and Fall of Halo

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2024

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  • @bigbosstube
    @bigbosstube  Рік тому +600

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    • @stillchill0
      @stillchill0 Рік тому +8

      hi

    • @Garvity69420
      @Garvity69420 Рік тому +37

      No

    • @butuskutyus843
      @butuskutyus843 Рік тому +2

      Thank God you're back!

    • @dev32
      @dev32 Рік тому +14

      Wait did you make this video in 2021 because the ending of it is optimistic about Halo Infinite and that most of the leads aside from the guy who fixed Master Chief Collection left.

    • @Apple_Beshy
      @Apple_Beshy Рік тому

      can you do The tragedy of Blizzard and it's fanboys still sucking them off? They forgot blizzard past lies and and forgive them because of diablo 4

  • @thebestthebestthebestthebe5249
    @thebestthebestthebestthebe5249 Рік тому +8799

    It's actually baffling when you realize 343 has had the Halo IP longer than Bungie has had and they still have fumbled at almost every turn

    • @haydentravis3348
      @haydentravis3348 Рік тому +377

      If this were hurting Microsoft at all, it would already be over. Somehow, enough people still play this. Probably because most gamers are children, who have no self control. They want to play Halo and nothing else will do. Nobody will stop them, so why not? Because better Halo maybe?
      And then there are people who say if you don't buy the games they make, good or bad, you won't get more games ever.
      No winning for us, people are too divided and Microsoft is not, however things seem from the outside.

    • @cralo2569
      @cralo2569 Рік тому +281

      i think the best way to describe 343 is "3 steps forward, 4 steps backwards"
      they just never seem capable of doing things mostly right, there's always some bullshit they do to seemingly piss people off

    • @Grayday117
      @Grayday117 Рік тому +305

      ⁠​⁠@@cralo2569 or “3 steps backwards, 4 steps forward, then 3 steps backwards again.”

    • @Flavalicious
      @Flavalicious Рік тому +241

      These things happen when your CEO is allowed to put out dog shit after dog shit release and somehow managed to retain her job lol. Same thing for the rest of the leadership at 343.
      She must have the same kind of leverage that Kathleen has over Disney 😂

    • @kevinzurek3431
      @kevinzurek3431 Рік тому +6

      Damn, that really hurt me

  • @greyngo
    @greyngo Рік тому +4151

    I love how the feeling of hope, at the video's end, is crushed by the first minute of the video.

  • @donovanjoseph737
    @donovanjoseph737 Рік тому +11114

    Curious if this is gonna be a two parter, because there is no way he doesn’t talk about infinite

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack Рік тому +473

      that´s what i thought

    • @MasterCrumble
      @MasterCrumble Рік тому +1165

      I hope he will... finish the fight.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 Рік тому +636

      He ended the video without actually naming Halo: Infinite, so it's definitely a two-parter.

    • @Puppy_Puppington
      @Puppy_Puppington Рік тому +327

      Probably. Halo infinite is its own huge own thing. It was the best from 343 & the potential we needed. Then they somehow got it close to right and fudge did up.. any way they could.

    • @romancatholicgameing
      @romancatholicgameing Рік тому +37

      ​​@MrTasos64it was like 2 references to it at the beginning my g

  • @LostProblematique
    @LostProblematique Рік тому +1441

    "UI limitations" continue to be the funniest phrase Ive ever heard

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims Рік тому +92

      For a ten year long planned platform

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 11 місяців тому +22

      agreed.

    • @SpartanJoe193
      @SpartanJoe193 8 місяців тому +30

      Which is especially ironic given that you being unable to code UI males them even more incompetent.

    • @useyourimaginasean
      @useyourimaginasean 8 місяців тому +40

      I find it hysterical too. It’s a glaring example of bad PR. UI limitations only exist when something isn’t finished. That’s like a car company saying that the vehicle they are selling you has driving experience limitations because they only finished half of the dashboard and didn’t bother to install a radio and AC. Yes it’s limited, because it’s not finished in a state suitable for customers.
      Here’s the really ironic thing though. For a company as big as 343 and the primary studio responsible for Microsoft and XBOX’s biggest media franchise to say they can’t deliver a promised feature for their product because of UI limitations there were several people top to bottom who thought the best PR response would be to say UI limitations were the reason for missing features. That is baffling for a company especially in a field where coding and software development are the driving forces for creating a great product. “Because of UI limitations” is an insult to a lot people’s intelligence and is essentially a way to say yeah it’s broken and deal with it. The consistent trend with 343 is that they overpromise and under-deliver. A statement issued using UI limitations as a reason why your customers aren’t happy when something isn’t working or isn’t there would have gone through several people working and planning what would be the best way to calm fans. It is incredible that could even be considered as an acceptable explanation for angry fans. The only thing them saying that actually means is they either can’t figure it out, they can’t dedicate resources to optimization, or they just refuse to. It’s hard to tell.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 7 місяців тому +9

      I would really love to know what sort of magical mess the games code is for the main menu UI to prevent implementing a single new mode.

  • @antroz321703
    @antroz321703 Рік тому +1148

    Tbh this whole situation just kinda makes me sad. It’s like having a friend who you were super close with then over the years you drift apart and watch him slowly throw his life away. You still want the best for him and hope that he’ll get better, but the hope is slim and it may just be easier to cut him out.

    • @Hovezipwn
      @Hovezipwn Рік тому +56

      This is how I feel about Blizzard right now.

    • @wiktorb6846
      @wiktorb6846 Рік тому +15

      ​@@HovezipwnMan I feel u

    • @Blingchachink
      @Blingchachink Рік тому +24

      CUT THEM OUT IMMEDIATELY

    • @spike5499
      @spike5499 Рік тому +6

      ​@@Hovezipwn it took you this long lol

    • @KM____________
      @KM____________ Рік тому +4

      nah its more like your friend told you he moved down the street but you keep going to the old house and thinking 'gee Bud didnt used to be a 67 year old man... thats weird"

  • @bamboozleddd
    @bamboozleddd Рік тому +2576

    It’s crazy what a chokehold Halo had on the FPS genre back in the day. What a shame greedy companies always have to ruin greatness.

    • @dangboor4277
      @dangboor4277 Рік тому

      Capitalism is killing videogames

    • @NGRevenant
      @NGRevenant Рік тому +185

      it's pretty much the sole reason the xbox was successful, i played ten minutes of silent cartographer at a display booth and immediately begged my parents for an xbox even though I already had a 6th gen console

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 Рік тому +73

      They think it's possible to still reap the benefits of passion and hard work, without actually putting in any effort.

    • @Arandomguy23111
      @Arandomguy23111 Рік тому +11

      ​@@chico9805 but 343 is learning from their mistakes and the example is halo infinite

    • @DavideDavini
      @DavideDavini Рік тому +102

      @@Arandomguy23111is it though? I pretty much bought the XSX to play Halo Infinite. I was excited at the beginning and then it open up to open world. No pun intended. It just got boring from there. I’m not one of those “oh nos, open world games suck”. I love open world games. Halo Infinite take on that I don’t find interesting.
      Granted, it’s just me. I’m not saying I’m representative of the entire gamer population, but I’m certainly someone that really wanted to like the game. I did not.
      My 2 cents. Cheers.

  • @NoMoreCrumbs
    @NoMoreCrumbs Рік тому +1923

    "We recruited everyone who hated the franchise to make more of it, what could go wrong?"

    • @NoNameTaken117
      @NoNameTaken117 Рік тому +130

      Who let them cook?!💀

    • @nunyabiznes7446
      @nunyabiznes7446 Рік тому +216

      hey it worked for the TV series
      wait

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer Рік тому +151

      @@nunyabiznes7446 “It’s like porn. You know it when you see it.” -Frank O Conner
      He made that statement as if he had an eye for picking the best halo projects to be produced, then the dumpster fire that was the Halo live action series released shortly after. Frank O Conner was an absolute joke.

    • @JackdotC
      @JackdotC Рік тому +45

      ​@@SentinelEnforcerno no, he just has a very specific and niche taste in porn

    • @Go_Coup
      @Go_Coup Рік тому

      That’s modern gaming. It’s run by feminists who hated games and wanted to destroy the industry. Then, they started making horrible games, and now they’re liking games and want to make sure they’re all equally bad.

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 Рік тому +732

    Hearing the backstory of Halo 2, the fact that the franchise made it through that with a huge victory is a miracle.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 11 місяців тому +11

      honestly though.

    • @Man_Aslume
      @Man_Aslume 10 місяців тому +27

      So what's 343's excuse

    • @Montesama314
      @Montesama314 10 місяців тому +46

      @@Man_Aslume Apparently 343 isn't nearly as lucky.

    • @kitchengun1175
      @kitchengun1175 9 місяців тому +57

      ​@@Man_Aslumethe UI lmao

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf 7 місяців тому +23

      Crazy that in the game developer world, it’s seen as a huge disaster and game that should’ve been so much more. But to the gaming fanbase world, it’s one of the best gaming campaigns of all time.

  • @SkySweeperSyn
    @SkySweeperSyn Рік тому +807

    as a child of halo (born 94), this really hurts a lot more than it should... At least I can remember the community of the 360... I think if heaven's real, that's where my heaven will be. Just got home from school Friday night, had friends come over with me, we order pizza and some drinks, sit down, and slam ourselves against the co-op campaign of Halo 3 on legendary together. That will be my slice of heaven.

    • @gloriousblobber9647
      @gloriousblobber9647 Рік тому +44

      A lot of things have to end I think. The internet’s novelty ended decades ago and we don’t even get the colorful or cool websites we used to. Just the same shit, the same games, and nobody knows where the magic went.

    • @moeman5122
      @moeman5122 Рік тому +35

      Born 96, and I agree with everything you said. I remember those days. Fuck it, back to work.

    • @ReadyF0RHeady
      @ReadyF0RHeady Рік тому +12

      Sublime my man, i sat on that Couch With you metaphorically

    • @justanuff
      @justanuff Рік тому +12

      95 here, I'm glad I got to experience this as well, but it always makes me sad when I start listening to the OST's of Halo 1 - Reach, sometimes it brings a tear to my eye and a tickling in my throat.
      It's a real bittersweet feeling, a mixture of glad it happened but sad of what it has become.

    • @MinotaurMickey
      @MinotaurMickey Рік тому +3

      @@justanuff94 here, you are not alone my Spartan friend…you are not alone. It’s just so magical for the feel it gives. Like your actually master chief and you finished the fight in the trilogy but it’s like there is something more or just something still calling to you that always bring back the memories when you first started. But that’s just me remembering that kid who started from 1-3 with his family 😔 so many good times

  • @Multifire
    @Multifire Рік тому +1112

    I am absolutely stunned by how bad the picks for the beginning of 343 are. Now the fall of the franchise makes complete sense.

    • @John-X
      @John-X Рік тому +161

      i was too young to put it into words about how i felt after finishing Halo 4 when i was 13.
      I replayed the entire franchise in chronological order a week before Halo 4 came out, & when Halo 3 finished, i felt as though i had been through a long, epic journey, that felt complete. Then when i finished Halo 4, i just felt...empty...but didnt know why. I felt bad that i didn't like it, i said _"it's Halo, i _*_love_*_ Halo, i _*_should_*_ like it...but i _*_don't..._*_ why?"_
      343i Fans said "You're just a Bungie Fanboy, you're set in your ways, you just don't wanna let go of the past"
      But the truth is I _have_ let go of the past. I realized that Halo ended with Bungie's departure, taking with them everything that made Halo great in the first place. But 343i fans, my friends, you're the ones that don't want to let go of the past, of a franchise that ended over a decade ago...you're still in the bargaining stage of grief...
      *RIP Halo*
      _~ 2000-2012_

    • @lucamagnani5243
      @lucamagnani5243 Рік тому +66

      @@John-X And this shit keeps happening, franchises and sagas dont end anymore, the entertainment industry has decided no horse is ever dead enough to stop beating cause why make new stuff when we can sell some bullshit with a known name attached

    • @alexcoss5965
      @alexcoss5965 Рік тому +9

      @@John-X I’m the same way. Unfortunately I was born too late to enjoy its hay day but halo captured my imagination as a kid, and when I finally got to play all the games I loved them. I only came to terms with the passing of halo after infinite came out. I realized that 343 was chasing something unachievable and that we would never see old halo again.
      R.I.P Halo

    • @SpinningSideKick9000
      @SpinningSideKick9000 Рік тому +7

      ​@@alexcoss5965 Everything after Reach just wasn't the same. All of the games prior to that had something special, even if they weren't perfect.
      Playing them at their peak was even more special. I can understand really young folks defending 343 if they never experienced that, but I don't see how some of us old folks can.
      Once you've had the real thing, an imitation won't satisfy you. 343 is the imitation and 2000s era Bungie was the real deal

    • @dangjohnson_
      @dangjohnson_ Рік тому +16

      I was 23 when Halo 4 came out and like the people in the video I was hyped as hell but when I played the campaign it looked nothing like the original series. Going from a dedicated small group of people to hundreds of AAA game developers is a recipe for disaster. I was wondering why 343 was having such a big issue with the franchise and now it all makes sense; they hire people who know absolutely nothing about the game and just want to make it a cash-grab. Correct me if I'm wrong please but I'm just upset that Halo when in a downfall direction.

  • @DigitalApex
    @DigitalApex Рік тому +2048

    I feel bad for anybody who never got to play Halo back in its prime because I believe the magic it had can never be recreated. You just had to be there.

    • @JohnGardnerAlhadis
      @JohnGardnerAlhadis Рік тому +73

      Agreed. I'm kinda glad to have never played anything after Halo 3.

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer Рік тому +122

      Trust me it's not pleasure having been there and now watching it's legacy corrupted and destroyed.
      Halo ended when Bungie left. They said that themselves, and I'll happily take that if the makers of the franchise said it.

    • @tomorainns145
      @tomorainns145 Рік тому +16

      I never got to experience multiplayer but got halo 3 in 2009, we didnt have very good internet and my xbox didnt connect either

    • @Quxrk
      @Quxrk Рік тому +37

      It was just a game bro. You are remembering the dopamine of being a child experiencing excitement for the first times not the gameplay.

    • @FJaypewpew
      @FJaypewpew Рік тому +8

      It’s like seeing your favourite famous athlete do increasingly scummy sports bet and crypto ads
      Except you used to meet up every weekend to play a few games, go to the beach and get lunch after

  • @JacobKasza
    @JacobKasza Рік тому +1185

    There has to be a part 2, this video felt as incomplete as halo infinite

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому +7

      YEP

    • @AliAlhussaini28
      @AliAlhussaini28 Рік тому +7

      What's wrong with halo infinite? ( I'm a playstation player so i have never played it)

    • @thebluephanto7655
      @thebluephanto7655 Рік тому +121

      @@AliAlhussaini28 think about a burger with no meat
      that's the halo infinite experience

    • @canada87699
      @canada87699 Рік тому +3

      They finally add the camping

    • @patrickbateman3326
      @patrickbateman3326 Рік тому +17

      @@thebluephanto7655 Or a burger without the Bur

  • @dakota7745
    @dakota7745 Рік тому +366

    Absolute ridiculous how a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT dev team practically fixed the lore and art style with halo wars 2, then gave them the blue prints to continue it only to bumble it yet AGAIN. Its almost impressive.

    • @HenryMyth
      @HenryMyth Рік тому +109

      It's almost like despite what 343 fanboys say Halo would be just fine in the hands of another studio.

    • @CarlosHernandez-ql3zo
      @CarlosHernandez-ql3zo Рік тому +18

      I don’t know why HW2 wasn’t apart of infinite bringing it together

    • @Klepto2322
      @Klepto2322 Рік тому +39

      ​@@HenryMythYeah man. Can you imagine if Halo got a dev team that actually cared at all?
      The Titanfall 2 team and the nu-Doom team are my first and second picks for 343 replacements. id has always made high quality games and apparently most of the TF2 team is at Infinity Ward now.

    • @HenryMyth
      @HenryMyth Рік тому +7

      @@Klepto2322 Modern Infinity Ward is one of the worst devs in the industry lol. They haven’t put out a good game since MW3.

    • @Klepto2322
      @Klepto2322 Рік тому +14

      @@HenryMyth A good chunk of the team is there, that doesn't necessarily mean that we get to see them able to work to their best ability. It is a shame that they got moved over there instead of being able to work on Titanfall 3

  • @JayTraversJT
    @JayTraversJT Рік тому +765

    343 was made in Don Mattrick's Xbox one era. That alone is a giant cause for concern. There is no worse time in Xbox's history. It may truly be cursed like everything of that time was.

    • @darrenmichaelsen8908
      @darrenmichaelsen8908 Рік тому +169

      "We have a product for those who can't be online all the time. It's called Xbox 360." Good lord it was like they were trying to sink their own console in those years.

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse Рік тому +4

      343 was around way before that, they took over online support for Reach shortly after it released

    • @HULKHOGAN1
      @HULKHOGAN1 Рік тому +41

      @@darrenmichaelsen8908Xbox was complacent. They knew people loved the 360 more than PS3 so they said F U for not buying the new Xbox. Didn’t turn out too well

    • @ToweringPepsiMan
      @ToweringPepsiMan Рік тому +12

      Creative Assembly should take over from 343. They have proved that they know what the fans want.

    • @jorgejustin461
      @jorgejustin461 Рік тому

      @@ToweringPepsiMan pffft no. Creative Assembly is literally kept afloat by the fans of another franchise. Now that Warhammer is done they are fucked, the old (I say old I'm not even out of my fucking 20's yet) fans of Shogun 2 and prior have basically checked out. All of their games after Shogun 2 have been shit.
      I hope you were being sarcastic.

  • @mollete115
    @mollete115 Рік тому +752

    That ending was like halo 2’s. We need a second part, please.

  • @grand_max66
    @grand_max66 Рік тому +390

    Growing up with Halo 4 as my first and main Halo game and later entering the larger Halo fandom has definitely been a wild experience I can say that.

    • @LateNightFire
      @LateNightFire Рік тому +42

      same man, I got my xbox in 2012. Halo 4 being the first main game I got. I loved it and still do, but going back to the other games and playing through them I understand why not a whole lot of people enjoyed it.

    • @Bulbasore
      @Bulbasore Рік тому +10

      In your opinion what is your thoughts on older Halo’s? Do you think they are fun or meh in your experience? I grew up with Halo 3 and Reach. Halo 4 was cool graphically but something about it…. trying to copy cod made it boring for me but I don’t remember what else made me quit Halo after that 😅

    • @user-vq5tl6
      @user-vq5tl6 Рік тому

      I prefer the older games newer games ain't good Halo 5 made want to kill myself

    • @C.A._Old
      @C.A._Old Рік тому

      *18:28** Reailty is it. People believe it to microsoft - 343 propaganda. This is not joke. This is The Truth. Mark my Words Comrades.*

    • @josephdergham4371
      @josephdergham4371 Рік тому +3

      Honestly 4 and 5 weren’t even bad people where just mad that they were different but the game was bound to change

  • @tyguy3876
    @tyguy3876 Рік тому +710

    The sheer amount of views halo vids like this get just shows the amount of love for the franchise. Halo holds a special place in our hearts

    • @egirlcafemanager7119
      @egirlcafemanager7119 Рік тому +26

      No buddy, its literally the title. If you go look for Halo “content creators” they barely reach the 100k viewer mark. Because 1. The game doesn’t hold interest in the regular audience and 2. They are boring and uncreative content creators.
      If anything, the youtubers who does CGI are the ones who deserve more attention for their extra effort

    • @patrickbyrne5070
      @patrickbyrne5070 Рік тому +13

      It’s all us old farts that played the first 3 to death and enjoy a bit of nostalgia and 343 bashing.

    • @firebird4491
      @firebird4491 Рік тому +37

      @@egirlcafemanager7119 I think he means that there are a lot of people out there that remember the old games fondly. Not that its still very popular or something.

    • @tyguy3876
      @tyguy3876 Рік тому +5

      @@egirlcafemanager7119 I'm not your buddy, guy. OP is in reference to the popularity of these post infinite analysis/retrospective vids

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому

      True ❤😊

  • @sensufr219
    @sensufr219 Рік тому +682

    I don’t think people understand how much fun Halo 2 and Halo 3 custom games were

    • @Drives31forhalo
      @Drives31forhalo Рік тому +42

      Halo custom games was like 95% of what I did in halo. Forge, Custom games, Social mechanics (e.g. party up, veto, etc) make halo stand out like no other. I bought other games, played the CODs of the time, but halo always brought me back. 343 just doesn't get what made halo so good.
      Shame, the two game series I absolutely loved (battlefield being the other) have just turned to absolute shit in recent years.

    • @haydentravis3348
      @haydentravis3348 Рік тому +26

      It was the closest thing consoles got to Gmod.

    • @theuberserge
      @theuberserge Рік тому +5

      in summer of 2007 modders had made EXTENSIVE warthog tracks in custom games like high in the skys of random maps. it was insane. 😊

    • @RakeYohnshair
      @RakeYohnshair Рік тому

      @@Drives31forhalo Bf4 is still good

    • @jonbayuga3238
      @jonbayuga3238 Рік тому +1

      You had an endless supply of people to invite. I had a friend list full of people that only played custom games and more just from recently played lol if they werent… its sad what Halo has been come and im not waiting for 343i to fix it.

  • @pseudopretentions1722
    @pseudopretentions1722 Рік тому +666

    Old halo felt mystical. Like if the legends happened in the future. And they left certain things unanswered on purpose. It made you wonder.

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому +24

      YEP AND SO DOES HALF LIFE 2

    • @ethansprague2005
      @ethansprague2005 Рік тому +48

      I hate that games have to spoonfeed every single thing to us, we need more mystery

    • @Mrguy-ep9gy
      @Mrguy-ep9gy Рік тому +1

      Campaign yes multiplayer no the multiplayer for all the bungee games felt ass 343 we’re way better at making multiplayer

    • @BlackMoonHowls
      @BlackMoonHowls Рік тому

      @@NigerianCrusader YOUR GD KEYBOARD IS BROKEN YOU FKR!

    • @ryanl5460
      @ryanl5460 Рік тому +25

      @@Mrguy-ep9gyhahahahahahahaahhahahahahah

  • @Afineaddition
    @Afineaddition Рік тому +529

    How privileged we all were to grow up during the birth and prime of the Halo franchise. We'll never see something like this again

    • @mr.c5249
      @mr.c5249 Рік тому +21

      We really won’t. It was literally once in a lifetime event. Pure greatness. Truly.

    • @user-vq5tl6
      @user-vq5tl6 Рік тому +17

      Man, I wish I was born in the early 2000's. My dad used to play, and it was really good, now I play.

    • @radu9944
      @radu9944 Рік тому +2

      timmy-born in 2016

    • @nocomment6421
      @nocomment6421 Рік тому +4

      True....so sad, i want to feel that Epicness again but never had it since

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 Рік тому +2

      Its pure nostalgia speaking out of you, if CE, H2 & H3 would come out today they would be torn apart just like H5.

  • @k0b128
    @k0b128 Рік тому +240

    I came late to the party at Halo's peak in 2007. It's a tragedy what's happened to the series. Halo had everything to succeed, a massive fanbase, deep funding and a stellar foundation and despite all that it failed. The days of having a blast on multiplayer are long gone and it hurts.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC Рік тому +33

      Halo was doomed in 2007. Bungie finished their story, and they moved on. Microsoft milked Reach out of them, but they had already decided after halo 3 that they weren’t making halo games for the rest of their lives. That’s why halo died. The creators finished it. Any attempt to make Halo a 2010’s franchise was doomed as soon as Bungie wrote the story for halo 3.

    • @chefchefchef
      @chefchefchef Рік тому +4

      @@nathanielmarks4872pussies out? Bruh they made an epic trilogy and wanted to finish there if you want a halo every year go play COD

    • @TheResilient5689
      @TheResilient5689 7 місяців тому +6

      @@N0TYALCReach wasn’t Halo 3-level, but on its own it was still pretty good. And it still holds up almost 14 years after release.

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 4 місяці тому

      Its a problem every manager has - they come onto a project, and decide that they need to make things THEIR OWN. They cant do anything the same as the previous manager of the project, which obviously destroyed everything that made halo… halo

    • @PacdemonStudios1
      @PacdemonStudios1 2 місяці тому

      I mean after 10 years people will get bored of the same thing, even if Halo 4 had been on par with the other games it probably wouldn't have ever shaped the zeitgeist like it did between 2001 and 2008 ever again. Even by ODST Call of Duty had taken over the shooter genre with their consecutive releases of MW, WaW, and MW2, with Black Ops and improved multiplayer and zombies modes going up against Reach at the end of 2010. By the time Halo 4 was coming out the conversation was Battlefield vs CoD, Halo was something people were nostalgic for, but it wasn't doing things that excited people anymore.

  • @iNabber
    @iNabber Рік тому +891

    amazing video, the ending reminds me of everytime i rewatch revenge of the sith and i'm hoping for the story i already know to for some reason change, we're gonna get the good ending now right??? everything is gonna be okay and halo 6 is gonna be perfection!

    • @NILsandMAN00
      @NILsandMAN00 Рік тому +8

      What did you not like about the end of Revenge of the Sith???

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому +4

      BUT THE ELDER SCROLLS SIX WILL BE GOOD ASWELL

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому +2

      @@NILsandMAN00THE FACT THAT ITS NOT A GAME AND NO BLOOD AND NO ACTION PACKED FIRST PERSON SHOOTER MOMENTS

    • @343killedhalo4
      @343killedhalo4 Рік тому +19

      revenge of the sith is litteraly the best start wars movie. arguably the only really good one.

    • @BlackMoonHowls
      @BlackMoonHowls Рік тому +2

      Halo Resurrections (7).

  • @Grissbane
    @Grissbane Рік тому +1761

    343 will forever be known as the studio who killed Halo.

    • @HULKHOGAN1
      @HULKHOGAN1 Рік тому +161

      They’re useless.

    • @Krieg4Ever
      @Krieg4Ever Рік тому

      From a juggernaut that destroyed all competition and forever changed the industry to a fucking joke remembered only for its developers absolute incompetence. 343 really is pathetic.

    • @ilikeboom100
      @ilikeboom100 Рік тому +8

      ​@@HULKHOGAN1Well they only ever made halo so no shit

    • @sheepfly
      @sheepfly Рік тому +128

      ​@@ilikeboom100good, at least they will only kill one franchise

    • @NoNameTaken117
      @NoNameTaken117 Рік тому

      I just love it when halo fans are dumb enough to blame 1 company instead of blaming others like microsoft, etc.

  • @Jellybob69
    @Jellybob69 11 місяців тому +80

    Halo: Reach changed my life until Halo 4 launched in late 2012. I remember when 4 released the entire franchise died almost instantly and it never recovered. It’s strange, I’ve never seen the relevancy of a cultural juggernaut vanish so quickly, to the point where the idea of Halo being just that feels like a lie.

    • @keyblader2k6
      @keyblader2k6 10 місяців тому +5

      i wish more halo fans realized that back then but apparently this isnt a popular opinion at all. it probably would have avoided the debacle of launch mcc and halo 5.

    • @Jellybob69
      @Jellybob69 8 місяців тому +5

      @@keyblader2k6 it actually is the popular opinion, in the eyes of the general public - the majority who actually played Halo during the golden age. That’s why H4 died and it hasn’t been 25% as popular since, because that majority will never touch 343 Halo because they aren’t naive, and know what to expect.
      It’s just not a popular opinion in online Halo discourse, because the only fans left dwelling in that are diehards and 343 shills (who are loud, annoying and very small).

    • @vitoc8454
      @vitoc8454 7 місяців тому +5

      "I’ve never seen the relevancy of a cultural juggernaut vanish so quickly"
      The enshittification of Halo happened around the same time as the decline of Game of Thrones, the *other* cultural juggernaut that ended so terribly that its relevance also vanished virtually overnight

    • @keyblader2k6
      @keyblader2k6 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Jellybob69 maybe now it is but back in 2012/2013 (before halo 5s release) a lot of my halo friends thought i was just exaggerating and liking reach too much. well, im sorry that you were sooo blinded by nostalgia of master chiefs return that you couldnt even notice the stark difference between reach and 4. heck, i even say the same thing about star wars episode 7; that too was blinded by nostalgia by so many fans.

  • @koskk_
    @koskk_ Рік тому +223

    God seeing how far it's fallen absolutely breaks my heart. I made so many great memories playing Halo w/ friends and my brother. Talking abt RvB. Unlocking the birthday skull as quickly as possible to have the confetti. Man those were the days.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому +1

      True ❤

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому +1

      NOPE INFINITE AND 5 ARE GOOD AND 4 IS GOOD

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому

      @@Gabe94dotcomNOPE THE NEW GAMES ARE GOOD

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому +2

      @@NigerianCrusader I enjoy infinite more then halo 2 and halo reach but I enjoyed halo 2 and reach more back in the day. If they had the same numbers of people playing like when it first started I would go back to halo 2 and reach it takes more skill. But infinite is decent

    • @NigerianCrusader
      @NigerianCrusader Рік тому

      @@Gabe94dotcom WHY ARE U LIKING UR OWN COMMENT?

  • @14megasxlr
    @14megasxlr Рік тому +343

    Alright.
    One last Halo’s downfall video and I can put the franchise, and all those precious memories, behind me.

    • @GreenEl1te
      @GreenEl1te Рік тому +2

      Halo Infinite custom games are fun so imma wait to stop playing halo if I do.

    • @euphoria6975
      @euphoria6975 Рік тому +5

      I'm right there with you man.

    • @RikaRoleplay
      @RikaRoleplay Рік тому +1

      @@GreenEl1te Halo Reach and Infinite Forge is my favs, I do feel a Forge World size map would make infinite more fun, given how infinite is named, infinite, and is also an open world campaign.

    • @ThwipThwipBoom
      @ThwipThwipBoom Рік тому +3

      I grew up with PlayStation consoles so I've never played a Halo game before. My precious memories are of Ratchet and Clank.

    • @ThwipThwipBoom
      @ThwipThwipBoom Рік тому +1

      @Clau007 It peaked on PS3 actually but that's not to say Rift Apart wasn't amazing because it really is. It's 100% the best game on PS5 right now.

  • @SirFozzy
    @SirFozzy Рік тому +313

    I think the worst part about this whole situation is how long it took the fans to finally say enough is enough

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse Рік тому +60

      Some of us having been saying it since H4 released

    • @SirFozzy
      @SirFozzy Рік тому +14

      @@GallowayJessepreach brother

    • @revan5293
      @revan5293 Рік тому +13

      Fire343. New studio,new engine,new halo.

    • @zapato6071
      @zapato6071 Рік тому +33

      When infinite came out i was like " ok, not great but at least better than 4 and 5" it gave me a little hope. Then the tv series came out..... it's over

    • @extremechimpout
      @extremechimpout Рік тому +1

      @@zapato6071 I liked the tv series

  • @LaurensPP
    @LaurensPP Рік тому +77

    One of the saddest stories of modern gaming.

  • @vicv3940
    @vicv3940 Рік тому +208

    I've been with this franchise from the very start in 2001, and the first 16 minutes of this video had me grinning ear to ear. The entire Bungie-era Halo really was a phenomenon. And then the segment on 343 Industries started and my smile and optimism completely vanished. It really is depressing for me to see what Halo has become, but I am thankful for the fun times and memories it gave me from 2001 all the way to 2010.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому +2

      True ❤

    • @aden538
      @aden538 Рік тому +4

      That's the best outlook. I know that no matter what happens with the franchise, it only makes me treasure those early years even more.
      I'll never forget my freshman year of college in '05, my roommate and I hooked up our consoles to the campus housing rec room TVs. People kept stopping by, then lugging more TVs into the room to accommodate more players and consoles. Total strangers, but we all loved Halo and that was enough. It was just amazing and I can't help but laugh at all the ridiculous stuff we used to do.

    • @teamhop
      @teamhop Рік тому

      Hey I’ve got some really great news to share with you, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on a cross and resurrected on the third day so you may all have eternal life. If you believe and repent of your sins and put your faith and trust in Him as you would a parachute jumping off a plane at 25000 feet up in the air, He will give you eternal life in heaven as a free gift and I promise you, He will change your life forever as He did mine. He is the ONLY way to heaven and He loves you all. Please think deeply about this with urgency because this is your eternal life and soul, you don’t know when you could die, meaning you could die at any moment, so please consider this with all your heart. If anyone tells you that Jesus isn’t the only way, they are lying to you and they don’t care about your future.

    • @whyareyoureadingmyname5854
      @whyareyoureadingmyname5854 Рік тому

      You guys are haters. 343 made halo at its peak and that's why halo infinite is more successful than any other halo game. Not to mention you don't get lag, packet loss, or hit registration issues on infinite like you would with halo 3.

    • @perrytran9504
      @perrytran9504 Рік тому +2

      @@whyareyoureadingmyname5854 343 has a hiring freeze bucko. Stop shilling for free.

  • @Ethan-0000
    @Ethan-0000 Рік тому +378

    Watch the developer commentary on Halo 1 and 2. Its amazing. You can feel the love and passion the old Bungie had. We may never see their like again.

    • @TheRafark
      @TheRafark Рік тому +4

      That reminds me of another destroyed franchise

    • @Ethan-0000
      @Ethan-0000 Рік тому

      @@TheRafark which one?

    • @henryfleischer404
      @henryfleischer404 Рік тому

      Eh, we'll see it again. Just not in HALO.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому

      ​@@TheRafark True ❤

    • @teamhop
      @teamhop Рік тому

      Hey I’ve got some really great news to share with you, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on a cross and resurrected on the third day so you may all have eternal life. If you believe and repent of your sins and put your faith and trust in Him as you would a parachute jumping off a plane at 25000 feet up in the air, He will give you eternal life in heaven as a free gift and I promise you, He will change your life forever as He did mine. He is the ONLY way to heaven and He loves you all. Please think deeply about this with urgency because this is your eternal life and soul, you don’t know when you could die, meaning you could die at any moment, so please consider this with all your heart. If anyone tells you that Jesus isn’t the only way, they are lying to you and they don’t care about your future.

  • @Owen-ey2gh
    @Owen-ey2gh Рік тому +79

    4:00 props for also crediting Michael Salvatore. He often gets a bit under appreciated compared to Martin, even though he played a huge role for making the soundtrack

    • @whatwhatwhatwh
      @whatwhatwhatwh Рік тому +15

      Additionally he and his team still make banger soundtracks for Destiny

    • @Destroyer_V0
      @Destroyer_V0 Рік тому +2

      @@whatwhatwhatwh Partly cause he wasn't fired when martin was... thanks for that activision BTW.

  • @user-bl6oj1hl8i
    @user-bl6oj1hl8i Рік тому +44

    It's still crazy to play the Halo trilogy (and Reach) after going through the Marathon trilogy (and Pathways). The depth of writing, complex themes, and high science-fiction concepts endure in both series. Great stuff.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 9 місяців тому +1

      What's your favourite Marathon game btw? 2 is my favourite since it captures that certain je ne sais quoi that CE also captured with its mystery and atmosphere.

    • @averymicrowave1713
      @averymicrowave1713 9 місяців тому +5

      Honestly old-school Bungie writing is something I don't think we'll ever get. Look at the devs responsible for that shit, well-educated and nerdy industry veterans that are mostly self-made as opposed to corporate stooges and drones forced to work under them. Even the work culture is something execs would not tolerate today.

    • @user-bl6oj1hl8i
      @user-bl6oj1hl8i 9 місяців тому

      ​@@EbalosusI like Durandal because you spend the most time with the eponymous character, but I like Infinity because of how crazy it gets and how it has implications for Halo and even Destiny

  • @robertturni2845
    @robertturni2845 Рік тому +101

    Halo 3 especially the online multiplayer was the peak of video gaming and it hurts that there will probably never be a game experience like that again.

    • @rotam8680
      @rotam8680 Рік тому +1

      saddest part is that it should be. but 343 never listened to the community

    • @AUFalcon64
      @AUFalcon64 Рік тому +1

      Mw2😂

    • @echomjp
      @echomjp Рік тому +4

      I would argue that was around the peak of online console multiplayer, but I don't think it was the "peak of video gaming." Games have made a lot of massive advancements in many ways in the years since then, and there are many amazing games that never could have existed back when Halo 1-3 were around due to technology constraints alone.
      We still have a lot of really good multiplayer experiences nowadays as well, but they are harder to find for sure. People tend to be a lot more anti-social nowadays with online games than they used to be, and games are not designed with proper multiplayer features from the beginning - cutting corners wherever they can - so this ultimately degrades it.

  • @superchroma
    @superchroma Рік тому +286

    Don't forget about the whole El Dewrito thing, that was an incredible story in and of itself!

    • @asneakylawngnome5792
      @asneakylawngnome5792 Рік тому +6

      Eldewrito? I dropped off halo around shortly after ODST came out.

    • @erickrasniewski567
      @erickrasniewski567 Рік тому +27

      ​@@asneakylawngnome5792 PC Port of Halo 3 was killed by Microsoft

    • @subfuscous987
      @subfuscous987 Рік тому +36

      ​​@@erickrasniewski567 more interesting than that. was a multiplayer port of a russian version of halo that was possibly going to be f2p and never released, with stuff like sprint and halo 4 armors but also some halo 3 maps/alt versions and new maps

    • @erickrasniewski567
      @erickrasniewski567 Рік тому

      @@subfuscous987 I'm aware it was interesting unironcally

    • @houseofosborne1173
      @houseofosborne1173 Рік тому +1

      Forgot about that! Yeah, that was a cool thing they wrecked, dirtbags

  • @alphaecho3094
    @alphaecho3094 Рік тому +131

    Started to wonder if he was going to do a part 2, then I realized this video is meant to be watched on loop.

  • @mateusgreenwood1096
    @mateusgreenwood1096 Рік тому +25

    15:52 This is it, that's when Halo died, when passionate and talented people were replaced by corporate hires that only work because they need to get paid.

  • @radski_fives
    @radski_fives Рік тому +160

    Halo has been a part of my life for practically two decades, starting with Combat Evolved. It blew me away, an experience unlike anything I'd ever played before. My baby brain could only handle the campaign on easy back then, but that didn't stop me from putting down countless playthroughs, even today I have most of it's encounters memorized. If I went clinically braindead my muscle memory could probably still power through a heroic playthrough.
    All the way up to Halo: Reach, the Halo franchise was 90% of what I played. There were always issues I had along the way; never at any one time has Halo peaked to 100% of it's potential. The lore of the tumultuous Bungie Halo development has as much depth as the extended universe, and my extensive knowledge of both guarantees me no bitches.
    Halo under 343 has been an exercise in patience and broken promises all culminating to a severe case of apathy. Halo has been without Bungie more than with, and by extent has been rudderless and without direction for about as long. Every 343 Halo game feels like each comes from a distinct alternative universe where the franchise had an entirely different design philosophy. Halo 4 comes from the universe that emphasized trend chasing, Halo 5 comes from the universe that emphasized competitive play, and Halo MCC comes from the universe where every Halo game was released broken and then fixed in this universe years later.
    I haven't touched Halo Infinite in months, before the Bandit was added. I got my Onyx, my LASO playthrough and was just done. The gameplay loop was eminently good - great even, but everything attached was terrible: UI, progression, matchmaking, and entirely absent social aspects. The Campaign was also great for a first playthrough, but with no mission select, an open world filled with Ubisoft-tier filler, and homogeneous level design made it very hard to slog through repeat playthroughs.
    Now I mostly just play with mods with admittedly great Steam Workshop support to spice up the old Halo games. Ruby Weapon Rebalance for Halo CE is a full game overhaul that is one of the few instances I can account for a mod superseding the original product in quality. There's so much cool shit like this the community cooks up, and all the while the mainline franchise withers and- maybe sooner than I think, dies out for good.
    Halo Wars 2 was pretty good though, all my Halo Wars 2 homies rise up with your favorite leader.

    • @dieter2889
      @dieter2889 Рік тому +5

      As much as I'm disappointed in 343, I have to give them credit for sticking with mcc and not abandoning it. Some of the work they had to do, especially with the nightmare that is the Gearbox Halo CE port is pretty impressive. 343 may have killed Halo but at least they've managed to preserve the original 5 Bungie games for future gamers, on PC at least.

    • @Rapgod3hoursclean
      @Rapgod3hoursclean Рік тому +3

      I was a pavium main

    • @scarlettwilliamson5370
      @scarlettwilliamson5370 Рік тому

      "blew me away" nice Halo 2 Breaking Benjamin reference

    • @jackp492
      @jackp492 Рік тому +1

      Reading that I just realised the marketing potential of open world games,
      You don’t want to play them again, so it’s easier to sell you the new one,
      I’ve always had disdain for open world games, I don’t want to spend my real life pressing forward to walk across a digital landscape, with no pathos for furthering a well orchestrated story

    • @dardanik
      @dardanik Рік тому +3

      "Ruby Weapon Rebalance", you say? I might try it out

  • @CoyoteKnight
    @CoyoteKnight Рік тому +146

    To this day MCC still doesn't have the OG credits, the OG loading screens and the main menu backgrounds.
    It's almost as if they want to make people forget about the original devs and make them think 343 was the original dev.

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer Рік тому +57

      It’s so jarring playing Halo reach and seeing the abrupt cut at the final scene before the credits role.
      Even the gears of war remaster had the credits for the original dev team. The MCC? Any trace of bungie devs were erased.

    • @dog_boy5123
      @dog_boy5123 Рік тому +21

      That just sounds like plagiarism holy crap

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer Рік тому +32

      @@dog_boy5123 It really does feel like that.
      343 even went so far as to remove the Marty O Donnel Easter Egg from ODST and replaced it with Frank O Conner.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC Рік тому +21

      @@dog_boy5123It doesn’t sound like plagiarism, it is plagiarism. “The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.”
      Fits like a glove. It’s plagiarism at best, it’s legally acceptable corporate espionage at worst. You and I certainly couldn’t get away with selling copies of Halo Reach with all the credits replaced with our own names, i know that.

    • @nobleman-swerve
      @nobleman-swerve Рік тому

      ​@@N0TYALCHyperbole aside Microsoft and by extension 343 are the rights holders for the Halo IP. They quite literally own the franchise, and can do whatever they want to it, as Bungie willingly sold it to them.
      Dropping the original credits is ethically dubious, but it's not like if you or I tried to sell the game for profit without actually owning the relevant rights, which would be downright illegal and copyright infringement.

  • @kitkitos
    @kitkitos Рік тому +682

    At a time when we needed him most, he returned

  • @querkycreator789
    @querkycreator789 Місяць тому +8

    the title changed from the tragedy of modern halo to the rise and fall of halo

  • @credulousrbt894
    @credulousrbt894 Рік тому +171

    Halo is a literal gold mine of an IP. Instead of a flood horror game, sergeant Johnson spinoff game, ODST 2, or a 3rd person marine game, we got the Halo TV show instead. Good job Microsoft and 343.

    • @ethandonovan8368
      @ethandonovan8368 Рік тому +26

      But master chief got to clap cheeks

    • @Pltr03
      @Pltr03 Рік тому +3

      Microsoft didn't make the halo tv show.

    • @theokayishgamer
      @theokayishgamer Рік тому +48

      ​@@Pltr03 The show only exists because Microsoft let it be made. Microsoft clearly didn't give a fuck about ensuring the show'd actually turn out with a quality product. Just like they didn't give a fuck about 343 actively driving the franchise towards a cliff edge.

    • @tanodz7635
      @tanodz7635 Рік тому +36

      @@theokayishgamer , not only that but Kiki Wolfkill was also a transmedia manager at 343, meaning, that everything that Paramount made had to go through her first. So no, 343 are not innocent, they are associates of a murderer.

    • @Psyantic
      @Psyantic Рік тому

      That took how long too make as well??? Fucking master cheeks man.....how do you deliberately fuck up this bad 343....

  • @itsumayo
    @itsumayo Рік тому +55

    I have played every single Halo game. Even Fireteam Raven. And honestly it’s one of my favorite franchises of all time. Seeing it fall as it has lately is just soul crushing

  • @tylerschofield
    @tylerschofield Рік тому +52

    I feel bad for those people who didn’t get to live through the days of bungie halo. That 2001-2007/8 period was perhaps the perfected and greatest time to be a gamer. Such good memories, the epic moments, the banter and just everything was just awesome and pure and new. Its truly sad to see those days gone. We will never again see anything like it i dont think.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому

      True ❤

    • @vortolex
      @vortolex Рік тому

      True same here. Remember there is always something greater after each disaster like a cycle. Soon late over the years Mabe a new game will come an overshadow the entire game industry I don’t know what would it be but it will be massive. ;) the best is yet to come.

    • @_MaZTeR_
      @_MaZTeR_ Рік тому +1

      Once the next big hit platform arrives, there will most likely be something once in a decade type of game like Halo was 20 years ago.

  • @AdityaSingh-gv8yu
    @AdityaSingh-gv8yu Рік тому +33

    Great editing. You can tell it took a lot of work and effort

  • @Areyisking
    @Areyisking Рік тому +67

    Man, I can remember going to GameStop for the midnight release of Halo 3. We got there around 3p that day, and saw the line continue to grow and grow. Ended up playing the campaign that night with a buddy and beat it. Such a legendary IP. Bungie provided me with some of the best memories growing up from H1 ---> H3.

    • @bcc5701
      @bcc5701 Рік тому +3

      I did that for 2 and played until 6am then had to go to school. I was so pissed all day all I wanted to do was go home and play. Ended up leaving midway through the day by getting out of the parking lot while security had opened gate and forgotten to lock it

    • @randomshittutorials
      @randomshittutorials Рік тому

      Halo Reach too tbh

    • @CrashExhibition
      @CrashExhibition 8 місяців тому

      Did it for 3 with a buddy who bought a 360 with it. Felt like space age technology. We played all night.

  • @credulousrbt894
    @credulousrbt894 Рік тому +376

    As a Halo fan, I know we're not losing, we've lost.

    • @brojakmate9872
      @brojakmate9872 Рік тому +62

      It's over...

    • @kentreed2011
      @kentreed2011 Рік тому +46

      It couldn't be more over.

    • @mrblack5145
      @mrblack5145 Рік тому +22

      Agreed but fuck I'm sad. I haven't played a console in years, a PC for longer. I grew up with Halo but Reach was my last contact. Perhaps I'm just getting old.. but I prefer my untainted memories over whatever they are doing with it now.

    • @stevejones69420
      @stevejones69420 Рік тому +47

      ​@@brojakmate9872it's joever

    • @viddykhaos2896
      @viddykhaos2896 Рік тому +37

      @@stevejones69420 … I’m bidone…

  • @TmanT321
    @TmanT321 Рік тому +52

    Damnit I love you Big Boss. The shot with peter griffin and the cyberpunk character creator really had me set for the next 30+ minutes of pure genius.

  • @agitator.exe01
    @agitator.exe01 10 місяців тому +18

    Halo as a franchise is like the start of Halo Wars
    "At first it was going well, then setback after setback."

  • @drewpeacock9087
    @drewpeacock9087 Рік тому +219

    Imagine STILL not having splitscreen in The Master Chief Collection...

    • @decrulez
      @decrulez Рік тому +38

      Halo infinite*
      MCC has split screen

    • @RikaRoleplay
      @RikaRoleplay Рік тому +9

      @@decrulez Unless you are on PC, as far as I know

    • @decrulez
      @decrulez Рік тому +21

      @@RikaRoleplay yeah there’s no split screen on PC, though what games do have split screen on PC? (Genuine question as I play on consoles)

    • @K0nner
      @K0nner Рік тому +13

      Portal 2 is the only game that I am aware of that does have splitscreen on PC

    • @ЧистоеНебо-ш2ц
      @ЧистоеНебо-ш2ц Рік тому +1

      ​@decrulez honestly no idea, project zomboid

  • @arnifenrenso2940
    @arnifenrenso2940 Рік тому +83

    Old bungie: i can make a banger game in one year. Modern bungie: sorry we only work on our game if its a bug benefiting the player

    • @voidimperial1179
      @voidimperial1179 Рік тому +16

      When bungie outright admitted that they will self sabotage their own development just to make sure they don't "over deliver" and *people defended them for that* was insane

    • @deriznohappehquite
      @deriznohappehquite Рік тому +4

      @@voidimperial1179​​⁠it makes sense. If you over-deliver you set greater expectations that you will probably not be able to meet in the future.
      In the modern “live-service” environment, consistency matters more than quality. That’s what gamers deserve for playing games like Fortnite.

  • @aersla1731
    @aersla1731 Рік тому +478

    Man ODST is underrated af, the sound track, the atmosphere, the story.

    • @nitrofochv2185
      @nitrofochv2185 Рік тому +21

      By who tell me?! We all love halo 3 odst

    • @aersla1731
      @aersla1731 Рік тому +19

      @@nitrofochv2185 Most of the halo community just look at this video he completely glanced over odst.

    • @TheWehzy
      @TheWehzy Рік тому +13

      The ODST makes me almost cry because it reminds me of the old good times.

    • @YouGotTheL
      @YouGotTheL Рік тому +10

      I literally never hear anyone shut up about odst

    • @aersla1731
      @aersla1731 Рік тому +6

      @@YouGotTheL Your comment is something special.

  • @ChauNezuko
    @ChauNezuko Рік тому +19

    This video has insanely good editing skills, and it greatly enhances the storytelling. Holy hell, I am so hooked!

  • @DubstepsHub
    @DubstepsHub Рік тому +126

    The mental image of Steve Jobs calling up Ballmer and screaming at him for thirty minutes straight is genuinely hilarious, thank you for that.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 9 місяців тому +5

      And surprisingly not the first time Jobs has done something like that: he also got into a public argument with one of the OG Doom developers over whether MacOS should use a proprietary graphics, with the Doom dev arguing that it would be better if macOS used OpenGL instead of a proprietary solution.

    • @Six_Gorillion
      @Six_Gorillion 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Ebalosus Imagine actually arguing with Steve Jobs himself, the man who literally invented the computer. That's why no one even knows who that doom programmer was.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 8 місяців тому

      @@Six_Gorillion John Carmack IIRC, and he succeeded in getting Jobs to adopt OpenGL over a proprietary solution...even if Apple half-assed it all the way up to today.

    • @CrashExhibition
      @CrashExhibition 8 місяців тому

      @@Six_Gorillion 🎣

    • @papercamera2989
      @papercamera2989 8 місяців тому +9

      @@Six_Gorillion "the man who literally invented the computer" bro what?? I honestly want to know how you got to that conclusion

  • @FlowKio
    @FlowKio Рік тому +65

    I remember seeing the dev team for 4 and was like “so a bunch of devs from the 90s who never developed an fps arena shooter” ohh boy!

    • @kyokusagani8869
      @kyokusagani8869 Рік тому +3

      Yet somehow they did a considerably better job than ANYTHING that went on behind the scenes of Infinite ! The killcams were the perfect hack shield, you knew when someone was ruining the fun. I liked Halo 4. The lesson here is... Don't rely on outsourced contract work !!!

  • @TheZombikiller
    @TheZombikiller Рік тому +54

    This video actually made me cry by the nostalgia it awakened on the good old halo 2 and 3 days and the people i met over xbox live they will always have a special place in my heart even over 15 years later

  • @Jimii89
    @Jimii89 Рік тому +14

    I’m old school man and you really nailed this. Good on you for putting so much time and effort into it.

  • @korhol2065
    @korhol2065 Рік тому +50

    The master chief collection becoming updated after that long is like updating team fortress classic after tf2

    • @thatoneswarmdrone6409
      @thatoneswarmdrone6409 Рік тому +18

      ​@Flare Yet one of the major contributors to Halos downfall was a man. So I have no clue where the misogyny and politics is coming from.

    • @IBHID
      @IBHID Рік тому +17

      ​@FutaCattoReally don't get where this take came from.

    • @eliasroflchopper3006
      @eliasroflchopper3006 Рік тому

      ​@FutaCatto are you mentally damaged? Honest question. Because your comment would make sense then.

    • @elecman748
      @elecman748 Рік тому

      @Flare bruh, she was incompetent, not stupid like and a moron like Frank O'Connor

    • @thatoneswarmdrone6409
      @thatoneswarmdrone6409 Рік тому +12

      @Flare Yep. Frank O'Connor was an executive as well who was responsible for hiring people who detested Halo as well as implementing the mindfuck of a story Halo 4 had. Yeah Bonnie Ross was a problem too, but Franks "contributions" were arguably more detrimental to the series.

  • @ragingre4per242
    @ragingre4per242 Рік тому +39

    I was born in 2004 and I remember whenever I was little playing my brothers og xbox on halo 1 and 2 and genuinely I have never been more sad to see a game slowly die, I mean it's gotten so bad I've gone to play destiny again because bungies art style and game play is so good. Shame halo will never be good again

  • @hexvid6412
    @hexvid6412 Рік тому +41

    I have seen like 100 of these tragedy videos of Halo it's just nostalgia at this point it's sad because I tear up when ever the music hits....

  • @N0TYALC
    @N0TYALC Рік тому +14

    27:14 I still have never heard a viable explanation for this image. His armor is perfectly capable of keeping him safe in space, and it remained airtight after he *jumped out of a spaceship and crash landed after free-falling for several fucking miles* .What the hell is that ratty burlap sack he’s wearing protecting him from?

    • @galfinsp7216
      @galfinsp7216 7 місяців тому

      Probably meant to hide its chief. Maybe not the best, but I could at last suspend my beliefs on it.

    • @vincentmartineau2006
      @vincentmartineau2006 3 місяці тому +1

      Becuase it’s drip

  • @Calrazin
    @Calrazin Рік тому +56

    What really made Halo special to me was the custom games. The fact that you could create your own map and game modes lead to some super fun gameplay. I’m in a group that still plays and even today Halo 3 custom games holds up as a very enjoyable. The fact that even 16 years after release I am able to play full lobby custom games speaks to how special this was.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC Рік тому +2

      I’m sure there’s 50 different names for it, but my friends and I spent more time playing Mexican Bull in custom games than we did in any matchmaking playlist. It was an infection game mode where there was only 1 human, and he could only be killed via assassination. The zombies all had grav hammers, and the human had an indestructible chopper. The result was a team of zombies trying to flip a chopper so they could kill the human, and a human trying to splatter zombies in a tiny little cage. Endless fun.

    • @madmanm7633
      @madmanm7633 9 місяців тому +1

      Bro you are lucky. All my friends now won't play halo.. I literally was a baby trying to play halo and now I just play alone. Literally a lone wolf :( God I miss growing up with Halo and having over 100 friends constantly playing halo. I remember having to choose who I played with as a kid..

    • @ezpzfakie
      @ezpzfakie 8 місяців тому

      fat kid was fun

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag Рік тому +45

    Now you've got me thinking about the alternate timeline where Rare worked on Halo.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому +3

      True ❤😊

    • @stronkman9157
      @stronkman9157 Рік тому +8

      Halo Nuts and Bolts

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 Рік тому +4

      @@stronkman9157oh lord, I’d rather have nothing at all. Rare after the buyout made f*ck and all good

  • @_yucko
    @_yucko Рік тому +47

    13:54 hit me so unexplainably hard in the nostalgia. I remember going thru all those bad file shares, like those ones saying free recon 😂

    • @albanui6354
      @albanui6354 Рік тому +2

      I had an older (maybe early-mid teens?) American friend who always had that sort of filth on his file share. Sort of mind blowing for me at the time, even though I didn't know what to do with it

    • @masterpeak4053
      @masterpeak4053 Рік тому

      This made me remember long time ago I had downloaded one such file share with that girl so I went to my 360 and checked. It turns out I have the nude version of that lol
      Btw her name is Ashley.

    • @RongDMemer
      @RongDMemer 8 місяців тому

      Need more info
      Ashley from where and what and why and how and her numbers​@@masterpeak4053

  • @McBoofus
    @McBoofus Рік тому +12

    343 doesn't actually have fans...
    ...they have Bungie refugees who refuse to wake up and smell the coffee.

  • @mason8241
    @mason8241 Рік тому +11

    I was 10 when the original halo came out. My mom told me to pack my stuff to stay the night at a friends….huge question mark it was a school night. She said “George called and you’re staying the night there” - when I got to his house he said Travis is in his room and there is pizza on the way. When I entered my friends room he was sat there playing halo with the an extra controller still in its package. Stayed up all night playing co-op and missed school the next day to play more. This is still one of the favorite memories till this day

    • @solidbhatt
      @solidbhatt 8 місяців тому

      Wow man that's awsome, wish I was born before halo to enjoy it😂

  • @cameroncall5163
    @cameroncall5163 Рік тому +31

    Halo's best days are behind us boys. Don't be sad it's over. Be happy for the time we had.
    F

  • @Shmandalf
    @Shmandalf Рік тому +14

    I remember my dad had to go out of his way to drill holes in the walls so I could get my Xbox hooked up for Halo 2 multiplayer. So glad I didn't miss out on that chapter of gaming history, was glorious and my first experience with console gaming online.

    • @andyberryman3148
      @andyberryman3148 Рік тому +3

      What an awesome dad and what a brilliant memory to have, big respect to your dad. :)

    • @Shmandalf
      @Shmandalf Рік тому +1

      @@andyberryman3148 Thanks, he wasn't always awesome but he'd come through when it counted. He passed 15 years ago and there are definitely days where I miss him or could use his help, but he left us with plenty of fond memories and is still a legend among my friends.

  • @ericwlezniak2081
    @ericwlezniak2081 Рік тому +26

    Big boss really left us with a Halo 2 style cliffhanger

  • @__-vg9ho
    @__-vg9ho Рік тому +53

    So long Chief, it was an absolute honor to have grown up with this franchise. It's time I accept that halo is gone for good, ill miss it.

    • @Destroyer_V0
      @Destroyer_V0 Рік тому +8

      So long as the status quo is maintained anyway... yup.
      It can be resolved. But that requires someone admitting they made a mistake in a big, corperate structure. Which is... not gonna happen.

    • @Gabe94dotcom
      @Gabe94dotcom Рік тому

      True ❤

  • @acenight01
    @acenight01 Рік тому +57

    People from all around the world come together through the wonders of internet to universerly trash talk you and your mother through game chat 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @romancatholicgameing
      @romancatholicgameing Рік тому +1

      Yes, I also watched the video. How did you know?

    • @acenight01
      @acenight01 Рік тому +2

      @@romancatholicgameing also through the video.

  • @Slop_Dogg
    @Slop_Dogg Рік тому +65

    The series is a shadow of a shell of its former self. At least we were able to get a fantastic almost decade long run & the five games that we did. At one point in time, Halo really was something special.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC Рік тому +3

      Halo was always something special, and it always will be. I don’t know what to call 343’s series, but it most certainly is not halo. They can keep pumping out fake Halo games until the end of time, and it will never change the fact that the actual Halo games were amazing. Some would even say legendary.

  • @pwnership3292
    @pwnership3292 Рік тому +11

    It's crazy how this video is entertaining, nostalgic, Informative and hilarious all at one and for such a long time. Phenomenal work my dude! Keep 'em comin

  • @MarcussJay
    @MarcussJay Рік тому +29

    I will never forget playing the first 3 Halo’s and ODST. It’s a shame what they did to such an amazing series.

  • @GoblinGeng
    @GoblinGeng Рік тому +105

    It's depressing to watch this video in a way. Because as games become bigger and bigger, they become more monopolized and drawn away from the main objective of games. Fun. Halo is a huge example of that. It was a cultural phenomenon. It meant something to a lot of people, whether it was for the universe or the multi-player. Nobody is really winning anymore.

    • @sneedler8661
      @sneedler8661 Рік тому +8

      Yeah, I totally feel you on that one dude, everything now days when it comes to online multiplay, is turning into this fortnite/COD styled game play, dven the art style is getting uglier. It's almost made me give up on most modern games made by big studios. Because you know it's gonna either be dog shit or sub-par. It's like they're focusing more on the graphics and the irrelevant rather than making it an enjoyable experience for the player.

    • @Gonger02
      @Gonger02 Рік тому

      What do you mean by more monopolized?

    • @GoblinGeng
      @GoblinGeng Рік тому +8

      @@Gonger02 more under the control of the people who don't really understand what games are, or what makes them fun. The types that say "this is popular, do that". Perhaps monopolized wasn't the best term to use but I think you get the point.

    • @talosgak1236
      @talosgak1236 Рік тому

      @@GoblinGeng My guy. Have you ever played an indie game? They are everything you want

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse Рік тому

      @@talosgak1236
      Undertale is god-tier

  • @credulousrbt894
    @credulousrbt894 Рік тому +110

    The timing of this video is actually pretty perfect. Halo didn't show up on either the Xbox showcase or the extended Xbox showcase despite season 4 of Halo Infinite launching in 8 days. It really looks like Microsoft has given up on Halo.

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Рік тому +7

      Took em long enough.

    • @Jasondurgen
      @Jasondurgen Рік тому +12

      I honestly hope so before they tarnish the name any more. Halo is like the horse who wants to run around in a wide open field but can’t anymore because it got three of its legs and an ear eaten off by a pack of coyotes (343). It needs put down. And you know the funny thing about that, is it would definitely make sense for MS and 343 to be the brain dead organizations they are to try and teach an almost legless horse how to run.

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer Рік тому +16

      Honestly at this point, it would’ve been better to have ended on a high note with Halo 3/Reach rather than have it’s reputation be tarnished by 343/Microsoft.
      It’s been over a decade, and it’s been nothing but disappointments from 343. Let it die.

    • @scarlettwilliamson5370
      @scarlettwilliamson5370 Рік тому +3

      @@SentinelEnforcer We can play all the good games on PC now, that's at least something

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Рік тому

      @@SentinelEnforcer No, At the midpoint in development of Halo 5 was when they should have canned it. Not 'at this point'.

  • @BlackTalonZero
    @BlackTalonZero Рік тому +19

    You really hit us with a cliffhanger like Halo 2.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Рік тому +33

    Halo 2 on Xbox Live was the first multiplayer games I ever played, and goddamn - sitting around with the boys/girls and playing Halo 2 while drinking 40s was some of the most fun I ever had. One of our friends was so good at it, we'd play him 3v1 and lose every time. It's crazy that its netcode was good enough, in 2005, for me to never notice latency issues or glitches.

    • @TW0man4RMY
      @TW0man4RMY 11 місяців тому

      Drinking and playing Halo online was sublime. I remember doing so as a pregame for all the house parties my friends used to throw. Hell, I remember we used to play online WHILE those house parties were going on. It really was an indescribably great type of feel.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +158

    Always a great century when Boss casually returns after 50 years with quality milk

    • @SoftPiet
      @SoftPiet Рік тому +3

      I’m convinced you’re a bot at this point

    • @RongDMemer
      @RongDMemer Рік тому

      ​@@SoftPiet...

  • @callmecharlie0498
    @callmecharlie0498 Рік тому +18

    32:06 I actually had to look up if that was real or a fan made animation and it turns out its official and still on xbox youtube chanel

  • @MiB1313
    @MiB1313 3 місяці тому +4

    "343, your inability to safeguard Halo... was a colossal failure."

  • @Scrumpo
    @Scrumpo Рік тому +89

    I never was able to experience golden era halo, makes me sad to see a franchise that, despite never playing, I had immense respect for.

    • @TraeBaldwin
      @TraeBaldwin Рік тому

      what gaming golden era did u get to experience? I experienced Halo from 3 on but missed some other game runs

    • @Scrumpo
      @Scrumpo Рік тому +1

      @@TraeBaldwin The first game I played was Guardians man :(

    • @_Cato_
      @_Cato_ Рік тому +6

      I pity you. Not in a condescending way, but just a genuine sadness that you didn’t get to experience the greatest period of gaming history :/

    • @echomjp
      @echomjp Рік тому

      You can still enjoy the campaigns in a very good way with the Master Chief Collection, and I say that as someone who grew up on the original trilogy and loved it (less-so the games after, though I have played through ODST, Reach, and Halo 4).
      The online play is not the same as it used to be, but that isn't due to a total lack of players so much as due to the fact that online culture for gaming has changed so much.
      To put it bluntly, people are far more anti-social than they used to be, so you will never easily get the same experience as these games in their "golden age" allowed for.
      After watching this video, I can say that my experience with the MCC in the last 5 years or so has only been good. But I didn't get it on launch - only years later - they must have fixed a lot.

    • @Scrumpo
      @Scrumpo Рік тому

      @@echomjp Yeah, I've played all of the campaigns, but man I can only imagine what online play was like. I love those kinds of voicechats and the toxicity always makes me laugh.

  • @siriveon3549
    @siriveon3549 Рік тому +29

    24:19 New game feature: Ability to change your race

  • @youngg1601
    @youngg1601 Рік тому +29

    As an Xbox player this brings me to tears

  • @thegameis_over1530
    @thegameis_over1530 Рік тому +7

    26:20 this is for that disgusting Trend started of releasing games unfinished and buggy as hell

  • @higiniomorales459
    @higiniomorales459 Рік тому +129

    Big Boss never disappoints with the humor.

    • @TheJayson8899
      @TheJayson8899 Рік тому +7

      By directly emulating Internet Historian

    • @PinballCollection
      @PinballCollection Рік тому +17

      @@TheJayson8899 Considering IH's upload schedule, I can't complain

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales Рік тому +2

      I also like the references big boss sometimes makes

    • @sgtn00dle
      @sgtn00dle Рік тому +1

      He even copies IH's inflection

    • @mugiwaradarwin4504
      @mugiwaradarwin4504 Рік тому +2

      He is *pretty good.*

  • @ArcticAK
    @ArcticAK Рік тому +142

    You know it’s a good video when you know it’s good before even starting it

    • @MattPapp
      @MattPapp Рік тому +15

      You know it's a good video when good, it's just the good feeling when very good
      My goodness

    • @jordaun2645
      @jordaun2645 Рік тому +2

      you know its a good video when its a good video 🔥

    • @PabloEskyBruz
      @PabloEskyBruz Рік тому +5

      I had a stroke reading that 😭😭😭

    • @MattPapp
      @MattPapp Рік тому +6

      ​@@PabloEskyBruzbut a good one nonetheless

    • @MrLachapell
      @MrLachapell Рік тому

      What

  • @mattyg69ification
    @mattyg69ification Рік тому +19

    I wish you had an army of editors to put out more videos because your videos are INCREDIBLE.
    Every time I see a new Big Boss notification, I stop imediately what I'm doing , grab a snack, and sit down for an awesome time 😁

  • @mr.voidroy6869
    @mr.voidroy6869 11 місяців тому +10

    3:35 holy shit. This is sparia remix.
    That brings back memories

  • @CordlessJet549
    @CordlessJet549 Рік тому +141

    For me, Halo Reach is the absolute pinnacle of Halo. It’s got my highest playtime of any game, probably forever, and it’s got such a big place in my heart.

    • @razzy4159
      @razzy4159 Рік тому +6

      Halo was peak. I remember playing back then and being excited for what comes next

    • @Trapped42
      @Trapped42 Рік тому +12

      brooo i was fucking lethal in swat, had that muscle memory headshots lmao only thing i did to earn credits

    • @ryandavidson675
      @ryandavidson675 Рік тому +9

      Halo Reach was the beginning of the end. Bungie murdered the Halo Esports scene with that awful title.

    • @CordlessJet549
      @CordlessJet549 Рік тому +44

      @@ryandavidson675 you lost all credibility after “esports”

    • @vortolex
      @vortolex Рік тому +2

      I remember so well when reach launch it first trailer on multiplayer Hera also the trailer over the development and its realism when you shoot on the walls or floor spark even bullets of ricochet etc. it was wild of an evolution. Now sour halo will gold a special place on my heart.

  • @areallydumbjoke662
    @areallydumbjoke662 Рік тому +8

    I like the touch when looking at the Master Chief Collection he used a distorted, glitched version of the main theme. Really summarized the launch

  • @AdjustingLight
    @AdjustingLight Рік тому +12

    The bait and switch 343 pulled in Halo 4 was legendary, surpassed only by infinite. Unbelievable

  • @nerfherder6638
    @nerfherder6638 6 місяців тому +6

    It’s crazy how such a small studio with the resources they had in early 2000’s managed to create games so much better than a whole multi-million dollar company can create with years and years of work.

    • @armandoventura9043
      @armandoventura9043 5 місяців тому

      Because the small company has no bureaucracy and they are not looking for a cheat of infinite money, especially when we talk about the fact that the large company is Microsoft, the same company that was in constant war to have a monopoly on the PC market, the one that wanted to buy Nintendo and the one that currently puts spyware on your devices

  • @Xtoff
    @Xtoff Рік тому +10

    😢nothing will ever compare to getting called the most heinous slurs imaginable in 12 different languages. Truly the peak of gaming

  • @palmerar5084
    @palmerar5084 Рік тому +28

    The editing on this video was hilarious 10/10

    • @sgtn00dle
      @sgtn00dle Рік тому +2

      big boss is the best Internet Historian ripoff

  • @YourCanadianGuide
    @YourCanadianGuide Рік тому +21

    The year is 2023, and the boss man hath returned.

  • @ADadasadasdadw
    @ADadasadasdadw Рік тому +60

    Bungie giving up Halo will forever be the saddest tragedy to happen in the history of videogames.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Рік тому +4

      But after how the development of Halo 2 went, I can understand why. 😔

    • @BuffPomsky
      @BuffPomsky Рік тому +8

      I mean, idk if bunge wouldve done a good job seeing destiny 2 lol

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Рік тому +1

      @SpiritsofSouls They should be put to work by their new owners Sony reviving all the dead shooter franchises they own that were left behind by their creators who moved on to bigger and better things. They can't screw up Resistance, SOCOM, and Killzone any worse than 343 screwed up their baby Halo when put in the same position.

    • @thejedioutcast804
      @thejedioutcast804 Рік тому +7

      They never " gave up " on Halo, they felt like a trilogy was all it needed according to interviews, and its even in the Halo 3 slogan " Finish the fight. " (Reach was a prequel so that doesn't count)
      But Halo 4 must go on, the cash cow must keep printing.

    • @ChrisRedfieldsbloodline
      @ChrisRedfieldsbloodline 11 місяців тому +3

      It was for the best. Look at Bungie now...

  • @fiend_gaming
    @fiend_gaming Рік тому +4

    Halo always makes me choke up when I see the early years, all the nostalgia and memories of playing with friends on late nights, and plenty of friends who are no longer with us. I can vivdly remember the interactions I had on Halo 2/3 online, and honestly I never really saw too much toxic stuff as compared to today, it was always super friendly between teammates.

  • @zealot1210
    @zealot1210 Рік тому +10

    This video is actually taking me on a high speed version of the emotional rollercoaster that Halo took me on.

  • @Max94824
    @Max94824 Рік тому +10

    24:28 you could never kill flood with a sniper in ce