4x SUIT Trilux Scope + L1A1🇬🇧 SLR to 500yds (Feat. Bloke on the Range) Practical Accuracy

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    The 4x SUIT or Trilux optic has long been a fore-runner in developing small arms accessories. As an optic rolled out in 1975, the ruggedized prism optic was certainly one of the earliest viable combat optics to be used on a main line rifle.
    So how was its effectiveness in the field? Does it really work? Or does it drag down the effectiveness of the L1A1 SLR?
    Join us as we discuss shoot the rifle and discuss its performance with Mike ‪@BlokeontheRange‬ !
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  Рік тому +73

    See Mike(Bloke on the Range]'s L2A2 Trilux SUIT explode on his range after our discussion recording: ua-cam.com/video/0jW00vYWM_o/v-deo.html
    If you haven't seen the Iron sight only L1A1 SLR, the video is here: ua-cam.com/video/q0j3AAfte2w/v-deo.html

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 Рік тому +4

      hi just seen mikes sad "ouch" moment and break down of what happened
      N I deployment heard a story about SF using that sight again loss of zero colaterial damage has to break it down to hit the deployment
      1982 wee clash in south Atlantic from actual guys there yup hens teeth deployed in action
      you keep up the excellent informative content Bestest from UK

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 Рік тому +2

      Your a brave gent. after seeing Bloke on the Range whose SUIT sight departed into pieces and scope bit the biscuits out of him today... 0~o there was blood.. >~

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 Рік тому

      yep my rifles gas regulator was set at 5 and then had jamming issues, which the instructor said to turn up the regulator to 7 or 8, ( which goes all the way up to 11 ) but still jammed, so had to cycle each round as i was shooting, which i believe that was the only problem with my weapon system when i shot it while in the cadets?

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 Рік тому

      Also i broke the record to dismantle the SLR / L1A1 which i think was 48 seconds and then put it back together in less than 60 seconds, the most important was the gas regulator and making sure the spring does not go flying out of the chanbmer, but other than that, very good for what it was but the au militray did not like it because of the jamming issues, no matter what the gas regulator was set up at from 1 to 11 ?

    • @tamaldebnath7473
      @tamaldebnath7473 Рік тому

      Sir review on gilboa m43 please

  • @PhilipKerry
    @PhilipKerry Рік тому +105

    I was a British Infantryman and we weren't issued with sights , all of our shooting was done with Iron Sights and when properly zeroed the SLR was very accurate .

    • @GavTatu
      @GavTatu Рік тому +5

      i joined at the transition of SLR and SA80..... meuh.

    • @paddymallory4080
      @paddymallory4080 Рік тому +8

      Great weapon system. The first time I ever saw this site was my first tour of NI. I was given one on my second day in Armagh with a half hours instruction and no range time. I was told by my platoon commander if we got into a firefight to take it off and use the iron sights.

    • @markwatters6875
      @markwatters6875 Рік тому +4

      Same here in Australia Phillip. Great weapon 👍🇦🇺

    • @richardoakley8800
      @richardoakley8800 Рік тому +4

      Think this man needs your help.
      The SLR.. the squaddies favorite meat remover..
      Bring it back.
      But a bit lighter

    • @martinmckowen1588
      @martinmckowen1588 5 місяців тому

      Also, you can see that he has to adjust laterally after each shot which would indicate that the rifle is not pointing naturally at the target (one of the marksmanship principles).

  • @vikingsoftpaw
    @vikingsoftpaw Рік тому +186

    Pencil barrels, .308's, and long strings are the best combo for accuracy.

    • @prfwrx2497
      @prfwrx2497 Рік тому +54

      I've always wondered how old rifles with pencil barrels could ever hit a damn thing out to mid-long range after a few rounds.
      Today I discovered: they don't.

    • @johndaniels1197
      @johndaniels1197 Рік тому +10

      @@prfwrx2497 As a FORMER owner of PSL, I discovered the same thing. On that one a "few" rounds means like number 3 or 4 might not go where you want.

    • @tomsoki5738
      @tomsoki5738 Рік тому +17

      It’s a standard issue military rifle, they aren’t designed to be fired one at a time, section fire is key. Although it’s very strange coming from a British rifle, being that the British army has always had very high marksmanship standards

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 Рік тому +9

      Not to mention a reticle that isn't exactly great for precision at longer distance. That being said, at least it doesn't obscure the target.

    • @Inflorescensse
      @Inflorescensse Рік тому +3

      For sure! Ask my Steyr scout, especially with a 10oz supressor on muzzle.

  • @Sman7290
    @Sman7290 Рік тому +66

    Fortunately, for Mike's chances of placing in his division at Finnish Brutality, his SUIT sight shit itself spectacularly into pieces, leaving him with the Primary Arms 3x SLX micro-prism as his only choice.

    • @williamflowers9435
      @williamflowers9435 Рік тому +3

      I’d rather see him run a ZF-41… just weld it on

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh Рік тому +8

      ​@@williamflowers9435Braze it on for that African bush war look 😗👌🏻

    • @adlerarmory8382
      @adlerarmory8382 Рік тому +3

      Bloke doesn't have to worry about that now since his SUIT broke then gave him a 3rd eye. Boy that looked like it frickin' hurt. The epoxy held but the cast zinc/aluminum/magnesium alloy broke from recoil induced stress fractures.

  • @geoffhargis7301
    @geoffhargis7301 Рік тому +72

    Interesting note: the 74 did almost just as well with the Soviet copy 1p29 sight as the SUIT. 1 shot difference.

    • @Anino_Makata
      @Anino_Makata Рік тому +14

      Yeah, and the 74 was under very different conditions that run (gustier winds, cold temperatures, shooter and spotter likely fatigued). But then again, there weren't as many technical and mechanical fumbles with the 74 than with this SLR.

    • @theimmortal4718
      @theimmortal4718 11 місяців тому

      The Steyr AUG with ACSS optic did better than both

  • @capatinswifty
    @capatinswifty Рік тому +18

    My father served in the UDR during the troubles in Northern Ireland.
    He loved the SLR but wasn't a fan of the suit. He really disliked the upside down pointer as " you're not able to see what is behind your target" which in built up urban areas. Where civilians are a major factor, can be a great detriment

  • @M81_WOODLAND
    @M81_WOODLAND Рік тому +4

    7:50 I bought a British surplus MTP smock while stationed over in England.
    It's my favorite jacket for out in the woods and dare I say: better than what we're being issued these days.

  • @evilscience3164
    @evilscience3164 Рік тому +32

    I had an israeli heavy barrel FAL that I put a trilux on and was quite pleased with it, but I only had access to a 200yd range.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Рік тому +3

      Measure your inch spread to calculate how well it would do at longer ranges

    • @HDBee
      @HDBee 5 місяців тому

      Tilting bolt rifles aren’t known for their accuracy.

  • @AndrewJordanBladesmith
    @AndrewJordanBladesmith Рік тому +16

    Used the UK SLR a lot in my time . I had a SUIT sight installed on my SLR . YES you must do extensive testing because point of aim point of impact does go wonky . You have to understand this for long term engagement at distance with lots of rounds going down range . The SUIT was most developed for Northern Ireland [ Maybe I'm wrong ] On a patrol I had my head out a PIG with my SUIT ready and able … Absolutely ecstatic regarding your channel , reviews and shooting tests . Way to go 9-hole !

    • @peterstubbs5934
      @peterstubbs5934 Рік тому +5

      Goes wonky? Dunno what youre talking about there. 22 Yrs 2 Para, 4 yrs NI with the SUIT sight. Won the Walker Cup (NI), shot at Bisley wth it. I wonder if these lads could get hold of a single point sight used in NI for a while. Excellent snap shooting bit of kit. Fired with both eyes open. Withdrawn cos it encouraged snap shooting rather than aimed shots which went against the Yellow card (YAWN)

  • @whylie74
    @whylie74 Рік тому +15

    SLRs were deployed to Desert Storm, secondary units granted (Royal Artillery had them) but they soldiered on until the early ninties, sans SUIT fortunatly for all involved.

  • @springbloom5940
    @springbloom5940 Рік тому +31

    I think its a perfect time for a A2 run at MOPP4

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 Рік тому +5

      Ohh that's just mean.
      @9HoleReviews Better hurry while it's still nice and hot out.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 Рік тому +4

      @@mattfleming86
      They can call it the Silver Bullet Challenge

  • @colbunkmust
    @colbunkmust Рік тому +6

    The timing with Bloke's recent post on his broken SUIT/face is perfect.

  • @9mmARman
    @9mmARman Рік тому +5

    I had a SUIT on a Century Arms L1A1 Sporter back in the late 90's or early 2000's. I ditched it and replaced it with a modern low powered scope and was much happier.

  • @Quintus_Fontane
    @Quintus_Fontane Рік тому +138

    "Great idea, poorly implemented" should be this country's epitaph, honestly.

    • @rowanhawklan9707
      @rowanhawklan9707 Рік тому +14

      Kind of like the USA then?

    • @ganndeber1621
      @ganndeber1621 Рік тому

      Buffoon

    • @MrHeavy466
      @MrHeavy466 Рік тому

      @@rowanhawklan9707 No, the US is much dirtier. US is either "Mediocre idea, USSOCOM works it into something good" or "great idea, sabotaged by US Army Ordinance Department".

    • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
      @KevinSmith-yh6tl Рік тому

      ​@@rowanhawklan9707Yeah,
      thanks to the Socialist Dems, and their open border policies.
      And also traitorous
      RINOs.

    • @AlexisB-gv1tk
      @AlexisB-gv1tk Рік тому

      @@rowanhawklan9707 salty much? Both countries are fucked

  • @canadian_investor7979
    @canadian_investor7979 Рік тому +2

    I bent the sight mount crawling between rocks, took it off, and threw it away, reverting back to Iron Sights. Good to see the photos of the 6 Ptl 3 Para, RIP Doc, also Jimmy O'Connell second photo (Author of "3 Days in June") Longdon 1982.

  • @StrangerOman
    @StrangerOman Рік тому +1

    Gotta say I love watching Practical Accuracy in two sittings. First I watch the run. Then I watch debrief as a separate part. But I think there is no need to split them in to two separate videos.
    The discussion about the optic was fantastic.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 Рік тому +8

    I shot the L1A1 while in the cadets at Cerberus AU Navy my score was 98 out of 100 at 500 yards, not bad for a 14 year old. :)
    Also had the chance to shoot with the F class boys and my first time shooting their weapon systems i was totally blown away witht he systems they had, thought it would be like just hunting rifles etc, but nope totally customized weapon systems 308 and 5.56 rifles, my first score was at 1,200 yards and was 38/50 and then 2nd time round was 48/50 ,and then found out that i had cataract in my right eye as well, now just would like to try again.
    But again because i got taught how to shoot or should i say the basic marksmanship protocols and also the massive expensive f class weapons did most of the work as well, but sure at those distances i:e 1 KM it was a great results never ever expected those results not at those distances ,love the channel as well, keep up the great work.🙌🙌👌👌👍👍✌✌😀😀

  • @screwyu1329
    @screwyu1329 Рік тому +17

    Thanks for this video, you just confirmed for me that my problem wasn't my marksmanship, it was those damn sights.

    • @trkjivdlopmd
      @trkjivdlopmd Рік тому +1

      Same ammo x51?
      I’d imagine a heavier grain making all the difference with this rifle

    • @screwyu1329
      @screwyu1329 Рік тому +1

      @@trkjivdlopmd We used the Aussie F-4 ammo, a 144gn pill, Same as is still used by some people for target rifle.

    • @ganndeber1621
      @ganndeber1621 Рік тому +1

      Workman and tools comes to mind

    • @screwyu1329
      @screwyu1329 Рік тому

      @@ganndeber1621 Normally that would be a possibility, however, I was on the ADF shooting team for 8 years and at one point was rated at number 4 in the army with a rifle.

  • @nickjoiner450
    @nickjoiner450 Рік тому +1

    Exactly the set up I used in Northern Ireland in Crossmaglen and forkhill in 1974 and 75

  • @connorperrett9559
    @connorperrett9559 Рік тому +26

    The FAL and its cousins are such aesthetically pleasing firearms. There's just something about the proportions that is more beautiful than the AK or AR patterns.

    • @Drunrealer
      @Drunrealer Рік тому +5

      Debatable

    • @odsttrooper3724
      @odsttrooper3724 Рік тому

      @@DrunrealerDebate it then

    • @MrSebfrench76
      @MrSebfrench76 Рік тому

      You stole my thoughts👍👍

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Рік тому

      The fal and ak look like cousins dude

    • @jic1
      @jic1 Рік тому

      @@jason200912 I don't think they look much alike at all. Then again, the M14 and AK actually are cousins, and they don't look much alike either.

  • @ComradeCole
    @ComradeCole Рік тому +8

    If only Henry ended this with a wink saying "and I'll see you in Finland"

  • @philadams92
    @philadams92 Рік тому +3

    It was a close range scope mainly used in N.I to engage in a built up area especially against snipers eg inside rooms, we usually had 1 per 4 man brick looking for concealed shooters in said buildings.

  • @fastfreddy19641
    @fastfreddy19641 Рік тому +28

    I used to regulally shoot my SLR No. 101061 out to 600m with iron sights with decent accuracy. Used the Suit to do scanning but I am shocked at how it lowers the rifles accuracy.

    • @prfwrx2497
      @prfwrx2497 Рік тому +8

      To be fair, the rifle is OK. the scope is wobbly shite.

    • @jameshealy4594
      @jameshealy4594 Рік тому +11

      @@prfwrx2497 To be fairer, the scope itself is also OK, the mount is wobbly shite. ;)

    • @paulkube3901
      @paulkube3901 Рік тому +1

      Nice optic. Interesting mounting; but rivited to a bit of formed sheet metal?
      Nah! Had one; found the same issues. Over-bent the TC and added a pc of alum shim to the "nose" improved it some for a while.

    • @PhilipKerry
      @PhilipKerry Рік тому

      @@jameshealy4594 it didn't actually have a mount as it was fitted to the standard SLR top cover which had a slight wobble , If it had a purpose built mount it would have been much more accurate .

  • @gavinhammond1778
    @gavinhammond1778 Рік тому +11

    The FAL is the best looking rifle. The SUIT just improves those looks, I don't want to know if it's rubbish. Thanks for the content.

    • @peterstubbs5934
      @peterstubbs5934 Рік тому +2

      BOTH the rifle and the sight are excellent mate. Used them both in Northern Ireland (4 years)

  • @prdubi
    @prdubi Рік тому +4

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I love my LEO B61 L1A1 with the Trilux. Thanks for doing this.

  • @LouCars
    @LouCars Рік тому +3

    Bloke that's some good pronunciation! Impressed, normally Dutch is butchered.
    Nice vid guys

    • @BlokeontheRange
      @BlokeontheRange Рік тому

      I may have lived in the Netherlands for 8 years, which I believe is considered cheating 😅

  • @grahamjohnbarr
    @grahamjohnbarr Рік тому

    It is so good to watch two blokes who know what they are talking about, in depth. Much better than a couple of guys, talking 10 to the dozen with lots of hype, at a couple of frying pans in a desert.

  • @peteroates2908
    @peteroates2908 Рік тому +1

    Why is it that I have to watch you chaps having a great time doing what you love to do, that when I was in the TA in 74 we used the SLR it looks like the same rifle we used but we never 😢saw any clip on sights like these great clips thanks a million 😮 xx.

  • @simonrichardson5203
    @simonrichardson5203 Рік тому +2

    We had these on our SLR in basic training , we were told by the time we hit the battalion , SA80 would be delivered within weeks , so to get used to having optics that's what we had , I felt there was alot of play left and right in them, we carried spare top covers so we could remove the sight at night, you also have to be careful with eye relief or you end up with snipers eye ( brusing )

  • @toml8142
    @toml8142 Рік тому +7

    I was in the army in the 2000s early 2010s, most of our binoculars had been spilt in two. I wonder if why the army had lots of of signs and no mounts is because they where only used as scope’s

  • @juggernautdriveSS
    @juggernautdriveSS Рік тому +7

    I would love to see a modern DSA FAL in a DMR build. Like what the Irish special forces used to use. Give the fal platform a fighting chance with modern optics

    • @firestorm165
      @firestorm165 Рік тому +3

      Wish granted, they make a top cover with a pic rail

  • @steveconquest6684
    @steveconquest6684 Рік тому +1

    One of the best aspects of the SLR is that it was the last UK issue rifle that actually looked like a real rifle, unlike that L85A3 that looks like something dreamed up by Dinky Toys.

  • @rogerhudson9732
    @rogerhudson9732 Рік тому +1

    My favourite DPM was the 1963 'smock'. Patterned after the '44 smock but with a zip down the front so it was a jacket but still called a smock.

  • @matthewn4896
    @matthewn4896 Рік тому +8

    Having seen Mike's range video on the SUIT, I think we can safely say it will NOT be going to Finnish Brutality.

  • @kenlandrover
    @kenlandrover Рік тому +1

    Growing up in Hong Kong, Henry's tropical DPM makes one shed a nostalgic tear.

  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  Рік тому +1

    Follow up: the Trilux L2A2 SUIT scope disintegrated on Mike's channel! ua-cam.com/video/0jW00vYWM_o/v-deo.html
    Don't forget! We did the first part of this video on the Her Majesty's L1A1 SLR with iron sights here: ua-cam.com/video/q0j3AAfte2w/v-deo.html

  • @ultrablue2
    @ultrablue2 Рік тому +5

    I’ve been waiting for this one!

  • @BaronSVG
    @BaronSVG Рік тому +7

    Just watched Bloke's video from today on this optic. Eye pro might be a good idea in the future. 😬

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  Рік тому +5

      Absolutely

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 Рік тому +2

      no an armor on fore head would have been better in my opinion

  • @armorers_wrench
    @armorers_wrench Рік тому +20

    I just watched Blokes video about this optic/setup. Got a feeling this won't do as well as your Scar 16 did!
    Edit: Also holy crap I'm first on a 9 hole video. Love your content bros, also I like your slate black rail panels but I wish you had more colors like OD green and a lighter tone of FDE =)
    EDIT2: Wow this did way better than I expected it to. Henry really is talented. Great shooting.

    • @viperscot1
      @viperscot1 Рік тому +1

      i take it you have seen blokes video that just dropped ????

  • @mark6809mm
    @mark6809mm 11 місяців тому +1

    My first weapon when I joined 1st Battalion Queens Regiment in 1982. Ps. Your stoppage drills and handling is shocking!

  • @rudydedogg6505
    @rudydedogg6505 9 місяців тому

    I acquired a Trilux scope in the early 90s, put it on my L1A1 and the results were dismal. Mine did not have the Tritium unit due to import restictions but that wasn't the issue. My primary complaint was that I wore glasses and getting proper eye relief was a challenge/impossible and because the scope did not have focal adjustment meant everything through the scope was fuzzy without my glasses rendering the scope worthless. This was brought up by Bloke On The Range. It looked good on the rifle but I was much better off with the iron sights.

  • @hakansoderholm6514
    @hakansoderholm6514 Рік тому +1

    I think the videos of Swedens Ak4 with old scope - shows the truth in what Mike did say.
    Even before the Spuhr upgrade. 🙂

  • @ianjardine7324
    @ianjardine7324 Рік тому +4

    So we've got this awesome sight for the army's rifles.
    Cool how does it attach?
    We haven't got that part done yet but we have plenty of Lego and some Meccano so it'll be fine.

  • @philipsturtivant9385
    @philipsturtivant9385 Рік тому

    Henry: your experience (13 minutes in) reflects exactly my own (1979) during pre-deployment training for Military Aid to the Civil Authority (a.k.a. The Troubles) in Northern Ireland: that is, I could shoot with reliable accuracy with iron sights, better than I could using the standard issue SUIT, which I could not adjust to a consistent zero at 100 metres.
    Woulda made a great monocular. . . . if only I coulda fitted it neatly into a pocket or pouch . . .

  • @davidjernigan7576
    @davidjernigan7576 Рік тому +4

    The sight looks like a highly modernized version of the warner and swazey musket sight

    • @davidkohler7454
      @davidkohler7454 Рік тому +1

      I thought that too
      I guess it's the eyepiece.

  • @markkeeler9995
    @markkeeler9995 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for the rekindled memories and banter.

  • @shall2117
    @shall2117 Рік тому +2

    Hell yeah!!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS

  • @jollyharris1857
    @jollyharris1857 Рік тому +1

    Josh and Henry.....great content as always.

  • @evillabrador1
    @evillabrador1 Рік тому +1

    Best thing about suit sights was the nylon pouch it came in. In Northern Ireland one person in each team would have a suit sight fitted.

  • @ML-762
    @ML-762 Рік тому +1

    That mounting system makes me appreciate picatinny rails even more

  • @JOH129672
    @JOH129672 Рік тому +1

    With the rounded foregrip and circular vents looks like a nice product of Lithgow

  • @pierevojzola9737
    @pierevojzola9737 Рік тому +1

    Hi, I was a marksman on the SLR in the fifties, sixties and seventies. Served in four armies, but the best shooting I ever observed on the range was in Rotorua, New Zealand when I was attached to the 6 RNZIR. At that time we were training for fighting in the bush or jungle and after zeroing in at 200m we fired off ten rounds in the standing position at 300, 400, 500 and 600m. At the furthest range I still had two soldiers hitting the target eight out of ten shots! It turned out that they were deer cullers who worked for the Government keeping the feral deer in controllable numbers. These were Territorial Soldiers using crappy SLR’s with iron sights. Later I have watched deer cullers shooting at deer from helicopters using SLR’s when they were in business shooting and recovering red deer for the export venison market. Don’t blame the rifle, adjust your technique and survive. Cheers mate. Harera

  • @rogerd6166
    @rogerd6166 Рік тому

    Just saw a friend of mine in one of those photos you included in your post. 1981 Belfast.

  • @tsukishiro70
    @tsukishiro70 Рік тому +1

    Need more nerdiness from the Bloke and Henry reference DPM jackets.

  • @terrancemattock5483
    @terrancemattock5483 Рік тому +1

    Just loved the SLR was a good gat, great killing power than the SA80 5.56 , I remember the 1st time I fired it in basic training, loved it lol, great show guys keep it going

  • @mfactor88
    @mfactor88 8 місяців тому

    the idea behind the upside down post, was so you could shoot at prone targets (less obscured by the post section). used them 78-84. quite a good scope at the time imho.Trijicon use a "hollow" post to work around this, in their current models. used them 78-84. quite a good scope imho

  • @philadams92
    @philadams92 Рік тому +2

    Loved the rifle hated the sight, I was accurate out to 600mtrs on open sights but pretty deadly up to 300mtrs used in anger N.I and Falklands. I still prefair the 7.62 51 NATO any day over 5.56, you didnt get many enemy combatants coming at you after being hit by 7.62 FMJ! like the site many good reviews thanks!

  • @kriztov265
    @kriztov265 Рік тому +1

    The service weapon I trained on. Thankyou :)

  • @davidravenscroft9235
    @davidravenscroft9235 Рік тому

    I used the SUIT for 9 years, like everything in life if adjusted correctly it works as it was designed too. It was designed specifically for Northern Ireland. Made in Taunton, Somerset

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Рік тому +1

    Only a brit would call anything involved with warfare ungentlemanly. I have found the reputation of being a savage useful from time to time. I'll hang onto it for now.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Рік тому +3

    Thankfully, Henry didn't get the Glasgow Kiss...

  • @philadams92
    @philadams92 Рік тому +2

    I was also lucky enough to have a full wooden furniture rifle Gucci as hell!

  • @davidlim2682
    @davidlim2682 Рік тому +2

    Great shooting as usual.. I just don’t understand why this channel is not even at 500k subscribers???

  • @paulhodges101
    @paulhodges101 7 місяців тому

    It makes sense to me that the sight aim bar tip is upside down on the SUIT TRILUX rifle sight. If the target ( pop up ) is popping up from the bottom, it makes sense that the aimers views of the bottom field of vision is free of obstruction, allowing free sight (eye) to find any pop up target.

  • @joet.s.6283
    @joet.s.6283 Рік тому

    Ive been curious for some time, and I knew about their mixed reputation, so I am happy to receive some knowledge from you, gents!

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 Рік тому

    After a lot of experimentation & load development, I've dialled in my 1963 BSA L1A1 to shoot 10 round groups measuring on average 18" high & 10" wide at 600M (660yds). This is using a 3-9x40 scope & 20-30 seconds between shots.
    Definitely not the most accurate rifle around but that 18"x10" is 'minute of man' which is what it's all about.
    In comparison, my .270 Schultz & Larsen with the same scope will put 10 shots into a 6" circle at the same distance.

  • @brendanmatelan2129
    @brendanmatelan2129 9 місяців тому

    I do love seeing a SLR every now and again

  • @user-hg8ey7gb2z
    @user-hg8ey7gb2z 6 місяців тому

    looks a prestige rifle ... since I was a cadet , my platoon leader was training at the royal military's academy and he was commending with the SLR

  • @Helghastdude
    @Helghastdude 8 місяців тому

    Bought a SLR last year, considered getting a SUIT, asked around on forums, former british soldiers told me politely "HELL NO! Stay away from that" A few of them wrote "SUIT stands for Shooter usually in trouble". Went on with a Steiner T432.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  8 місяців тому

      It's such a neat looking accessory! but yes, take it off if you really want to shoot it

  • @michaelburness9044
    @michaelburness9044 Рік тому +17

    Be class if you could do the SA80 range and see the improvements as they go on. I'm not sure it's possible to get the sa80 in private hands tho

    • @discipleaj
      @discipleaj Рік тому +4

      A2 if possible. A1 we don't talk about, ever.

    • @crocholiday409
      @crocholiday409 Рік тому +4

      As far as I know, there are no civilian SA80s in the US. Someone out there may have a post sample/real one in a very high-end collection.

    • @redactedanticretin
      @redactedanticretin Рік тому

      @@crocholiday409 we would need to ask gun jesus he did a review a while back

    • @sluttybutt
      @sluttybutt Рік тому

      @@crocholiday409 I think the only ones that made it to the states or civilian hands are A1, which isn't really worth evaluating except as a showcase for how far the rifle came

    • @IanDinBC
      @IanDinBC Рік тому +1

      There was a production run of semi-auto L85's, there are a few in Canada, so few though that it isn't actually on the ban list@@crocholiday409

  • @thatguyoverthere2288
    @thatguyoverthere2288 Рік тому +2

    Idea! C96 mauser! They have sights out to 1000 meters from the factory

  • @dw5523
    @dw5523 Рік тому +11

    The only way to wear a SUIT to the range.

  • @mrivantchernegovski3869
    @mrivantchernegovski3869 11 місяців тому

    Sight unit infantry trilux,we had the great SLR in the New Zealand Army in the 80s,heard about the sights but was never issued one lol first time we got optics was with the Steyr AUG

  • @apostlestumpy
    @apostlestumpy Рік тому +6

    The SLR is prone to failure to feed because of magazine manipulation. Thats why you dont hold the magazine or redt it on objects whilst shooting! I could aldo see you were going to have a failure to extract as it was short stoking. I found stting 3 to be the most reliable!
    As always, your weapon handling is brilliant! No silly racking the action more than once to clear it, and safety aplied when not on target👍

  • @MrRourk
    @MrRourk Рік тому

    I had one of the Israeli AR SUIT Scope Mounts for the AR Handle. Tried it a couple of times and what a neck strain.

  • @MarshallBanananana
    @MarshallBanananana Рік тому +2

    I'm going to test it rigorously before the competition. What can possibly go wrong?....

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  Рік тому +1

      imagine if it happed at the brutality match

  • @uh60ce1
    @uh60ce1 Рік тому

    Henry is the only person on you tube I always watch all the way through asking to join everytime. That is simply hilarious to me.

  • @marcusgault9909
    @marcusgault9909 3 місяці тому

    That is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.

  • @TheFunkhouser
    @TheFunkhouser Рік тому

    The Camo shirt/jacket pattern you are wearing we called the mighty DPM (Disruptive Pattern Material)

  • @robertwood1416
    @robertwood1416 Рік тому

    We never removed the sight from the top cover because there was absolutely no reason to. I never saw the SUIT whilst in basic training. The first time I saw one was after joining Bn in Londonderry and they were limited to brick commanders and/or half decent shots and the rest of the brick had iron sights. Brick commanders had them in order to locate likely terrorist firing positions and aid in target indication. I managed to get one due to being an okay shot!

  • @richardcarey169
    @richardcarey169 Рік тому

    At 600 meters, run 100 to firing point, adopt position, watch and shoot 6 Falling plates from 500 meters, half inch armour plate 12 x 12 inches, no problems for this Gat, I loved mine..just peep and foresight,,,very very accurate in the right hands

  • @rays.5764
    @rays.5764 Рік тому +36

    Welcome change to see these guys with a proper range, doing proper drills, as opposed to these other UA-cam wankers just mag dumping into trash.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 Рік тому +9

      They've been doing this for a while. It's really worth the time to see their other videos if you haven't already.

  • @jediknight1294
    @jediknight1294 Рік тому +1

    God in that Dessie DPM smock with shirt and tie you look like one of my senior officers....
    The SUIT was a GREAT optic for it's time and a genuine game changer. On a rifle that was 4moa with 4moa ammo.
    Today however the mount system, the glass quality and the optic is just out of date. If they'd just done the mount in a better way... Though on the AR15 mount they are really pleasant.
    My father loved his on the SLR in the RAF but they were a DM tool by the time he was in.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight Рік тому +8

    I have never seen so many stoppages with the SLR, are the mags ok? gas settings? I was never a fan of the SUIT because of the crappy way it mounts to the weapon and the parallax error at close-in ranges the SUSAT on the L85 also has the parallax issue at short ranges too.. even with open sights every time an SLR was broken open to clean there is always the risk of a shift in zero anyway, ]and that's before the wobbly rear sight on a heavily worn one, when issued with the SUIT it came with a small green nylon pouch that had a belt loop but no hooks on the back.

    • @norwegianwiking
      @norwegianwiking Рік тому +1

      A lot of the FALs in the US are parts kit builds and the receiver makers have been notoriously varying in quality.

    • @DevilbyMoonlight
      @DevilbyMoonlight 11 місяців тому

      @@norwegianwiking - that eplains a lot thanks for the input

  • @deankidd1743
    @deankidd1743 Рік тому

    Loved the Indian Ishapores I bought 2. Converted one w a sniper scope and bi pod. The other 1 I left stock.

  • @gw10758
    @gw10758 Рік тому

    I use the STANAG on my L1A1 and it is a retyrn to battery scope that works very well.

  • @markwatters6875
    @markwatters6875 Рік тому +1

    Best rifle ever made.

  • @prdubi
    @prdubi Рік тому +2

    What would be really really nice to know is how the Soviets made a direct copy of the L2A2 Trilux SUIT. Been reading many theories from it was direct stolen from the factory to other theories that it came from a captured unit from the IRA, to it was stolen while in Germany. But even the designers of the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USP-1 have stated that it was a direct copy.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  Рік тому +2

      we actually shot the course with the 1p29 soviet copy ua-cam.com/video/014PYybTWyI/v-deo.html

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders Рік тому

      How? It would have just been pinched from the factory.

  • @christophermercer2632
    @christophermercer2632 Рік тому

    Good thing he did this before bloke on the range’s vid was posted

  • @trooper64428
    @trooper64428 13 днів тому

    In Northern Ireland (82-85) 50% of the section would have a Suit sight, great on a clear sunny day, but a nightmare in the cold wind and rain, the sights would mist up in the cold and the in the rain the rubber eyepiece would fill with water, so it being northern Ireland the weather was always bad so they were hardly ever attached to your rifle. But they were mainly used for Ireland as I never saw one other than that not in Gibraltar or the UK, Iron sights were better anyway.

    • @trooper64428
      @trooper64428 13 днів тому

      A typical example of how bad the Suit sight was Gortin ranges Omagh pissing down with rain trying to do an APWT trying to wipe rain and mist off the lenses before the targets went down before you could take a shot 🤣

  • @thagrifster594
    @thagrifster594 Рік тому +1

    The FAL doesn’t fail. Cheers.

  • @Lt._Nut
    @Lt._Nut Рік тому +1

    Don’t wanna be that guy, but the M14 with irons did better 😏. All jokes aside great shooting Henry and great video overall. FALs are fun to watch

  • @everalm1
    @everalm1 Рік тому

    At 28 Minutes the converstaion veers onto the plain idiocy of the military tender and delivery process on the SUIT.
    An interesting point, worth a possible review would be the post WW2, early NATO decisions around rifle and ammunition standardisation.
    The British had done a SHED load of analysis and testing around the .280, battle usage feedback, ineffectiveness of the .30 range (.303/30-06 etc) in current real world scenario's etc. The EM1 and EM2, in .280 not only met but exceeded the spec requirements.
    The interesting one is the politics, there is (and I will try and find it) a full report from the US Aberdeen training grounds where rifles US and UK and calibres .30 or similar (generals loving Ye Olde Schoole 1000 yrd BS) went up against the EM1 and EM2 in .280.
    In all tests, reliability, target acquisition and servicing and ability to use the same round in the GPMG role as well as infantry small arm.... both the weapon and the ammunition trounced the T44 and T48 and the 7.62 x 51.
    However the team at Aberdeen (even in the handwritten side notes) had plainly already decided that come what may, the NATO weapon for the USA would NOT be anything other than the M14 and 7.62 x 51 which could be sold to old war horse REMF's as a "kinda", 30 caliber round.
    Politics and idiots without skin in the game, beat real world requirements in the miitary acquisition space almost every time alas.....

  • @johnnydiamondsmusic1673
    @johnnydiamondsmusic1673 Рік тому +1

    My era. Joined 88 still had the SLR then converted to the SA80. The SLR was lethal with a SUIT sight. Apart from the original teething problems with the new rifle it was very accurate from the beginning with the SUSAT sight. Similar sight picture but the post comes from bottom not top. I don’t think there was the problem you found with the SUIT when I used one. Could it be the ammo?

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh Рік тому

    Shooting even slightly downward is much nicer. Cheers for the vid lads.

  • @checkpoint3260
    @checkpoint3260 10 місяців тому

    Not a free float barrel, use the mag as a monopod on the FAL clones, but expect malfunctions. The ledge in the barrel will deform the projectile, you can't expect MOA precision unless you address that.

  • @shootingsportstransparency7461

    The Belgian FAL and this copy of it was the last real quality militairy gun

  • @MAXdori
    @MAXdori Рік тому

    By 3:53 the venom from whatever bit Josh is beginning to inhibit his speech 😮

  • @fmike15
    @fmike15 Рік тому

    I had a trilux mounted on my old ar15a2 and it was probably the deadliest ar I ever owned. I still have the trilux and nothing to mount it on. My only complaint was how high it sat on an ar

  • @jasonosborne5947
    @jasonosborne5947 Рік тому

    Love all your videos.
    Please do more podcast sir the sound of your voice is calming lol.
    Thank you and Josh for all the content.