See Mike(Bloke on the Range]'s L2A2 Trilux SUIT explode on his range after our discussion recording: ua-cam.com/video/0jW00vYWM_o/v-deo.html If you haven't seen the Iron sight only L1A1 SLR, the video is here: ua-cam.com/video/q0j3AAfte2w/v-deo.html
hi just seen mikes sad "ouch" moment and break down of what happened N I deployment heard a story about SF using that sight again loss of zero colaterial damage has to break it down to hit the deployment 1982 wee clash in south Atlantic from actual guys there yup hens teeth deployed in action you keep up the excellent informative content Bestest from UK
Your a brave gent. after seeing Bloke on the Range whose SUIT sight departed into pieces and scope bit the biscuits out of him today... 0~o there was blood.. >~
yep my rifles gas regulator was set at 5 and then had jamming issues, which the instructor said to turn up the regulator to 7 or 8, ( which goes all the way up to 11 ) but still jammed, so had to cycle each round as i was shooting, which i believe that was the only problem with my weapon system when i shot it while in the cadets?
Also i broke the record to dismantle the SLR / L1A1 which i think was 48 seconds and then put it back together in less than 60 seconds, the most important was the gas regulator and making sure the spring does not go flying out of the chanbmer, but other than that, very good for what it was but the au militray did not like it because of the jamming issues, no matter what the gas regulator was set up at from 1 to 11 ?
I was a British Infantryman and we weren't issued with sights , all of our shooting was done with Iron Sights and when properly zeroed the SLR was very accurate .
Great weapon system. The first time I ever saw this site was my first tour of NI. I was given one on my second day in Armagh with a half hours instruction and no range time. I was told by my platoon commander if we got into a firefight to take it off and use the iron sights.
Also, you can see that he has to adjust laterally after each shot which would indicate that the rifle is not pointing naturally at the target (one of the marksmanship principles).
I've always wondered how old rifles with pencil barrels could ever hit a damn thing out to mid-long range after a few rounds. Today I discovered: they don't.
It’s a standard issue military rifle, they aren’t designed to be fired one at a time, section fire is key. Although it’s very strange coming from a British rifle, being that the British army has always had very high marksmanship standards
Yeah, and the 74 was under very different conditions that run (gustier winds, cold temperatures, shooter and spotter likely fatigued). But then again, there weren't as many technical and mechanical fumbles with the 74 than with this SLR.
Fortunately, for Mike's chances of placing in his division at Finnish Brutality, his SUIT sight shit itself spectacularly into pieces, leaving him with the Primary Arms 3x SLX micro-prism as his only choice.
Bloke doesn't have to worry about that now since his SUIT broke then gave him a 3rd eye. Boy that looked like it frickin' hurt. The epoxy held but the cast zinc/aluminum/magnesium alloy broke from recoil induced stress fractures.
7:50 I bought a British surplus MTP smock while stationed over in England. It's my favorite jacket for out in the woods and dare I say: better than what we're being issued these days.
My father served in the UDR during the troubles in Northern Ireland. He loved the SLR but wasn't a fan of the suit. He really disliked the upside down pointer as " you're not able to see what is behind your target" which in built up urban areas. Where civilians are a major factor, can be a great detriment
I bent the sight mount crawling between rocks, took it off, and threw it away, reverting back to Iron Sights. Good to see the photos of the 6 Ptl 3 Para, RIP Doc, also Jimmy O'Connell second photo (Author of "3 Days in June") Longdon 1982.
Used the UK SLR a lot in my time . I had a SUIT sight installed on my SLR . YES you must do extensive testing because point of aim point of impact does go wonky . You have to understand this for long term engagement at distance with lots of rounds going down range . The SUIT was most developed for Northern Ireland [ Maybe I'm wrong ] On a patrol I had my head out a PIG with my SUIT ready and able … Absolutely ecstatic regarding your channel , reviews and shooting tests . Way to go 9-hole !
Goes wonky? Dunno what youre talking about there. 22 Yrs 2 Para, 4 yrs NI with the SUIT sight. Won the Walker Cup (NI), shot at Bisley wth it. I wonder if these lads could get hold of a single point sight used in NI for a while. Excellent snap shooting bit of kit. Fired with both eyes open. Withdrawn cos it encouraged snap shooting rather than aimed shots which went against the Yellow card (YAWN)
SLRs were deployed to Desert Storm, secondary units granted (Royal Artillery had them) but they soldiered on until the early ninties, sans SUIT fortunatly for all involved.
Gotta say I love watching Practical Accuracy in two sittings. First I watch the run. Then I watch debrief as a separate part. But I think there is no need to split them in to two separate videos. The discussion about the optic was fantastic.
I had a SUIT on a Century Arms L1A1 Sporter back in the late 90's or early 2000's. I ditched it and replaced it with a modern low powered scope and was much happier.
It is so good to watch two blokes who know what they are talking about, in depth. Much better than a couple of guys, talking 10 to the dozen with lots of hype, at a couple of frying pans in a desert.
@@ganndeber1621 Normally that would be a possibility, however, I was on the ADF shooting team for 8 years and at one point was rated at number 4 in the army with a rifle.
Why is it that I have to watch you chaps having a great time doing what you love to do, that when I was in the TA in 74 we used the SLR it looks like the same rifle we used but we never 😢saw any clip on sights like these great clips thanks a million 😮 xx.
It was a close range scope mainly used in N.I to engage in a built up area especially against snipers eg inside rooms, we usually had 1 per 4 man brick looking for concealed shooters in said buildings.
I used to regulally shoot my SLR No. 101061 out to 600m with iron sights with decent accuracy. Used the Suit to do scanning but I am shocked at how it lowers the rifles accuracy.
Nice optic. Interesting mounting; but rivited to a bit of formed sheet metal? Nah! Had one; found the same issues. Over-bent the TC and added a pc of alum shim to the "nose" improved it some for a while.
@@jameshealy4594 it didn't actually have a mount as it was fitted to the standard SLR top cover which had a slight wobble , If it had a purpose built mount it would have been much more accurate .
We had these on our SLR in basic training , we were told by the time we hit the battalion , SA80 would be delivered within weeks , so to get used to having optics that's what we had , I felt there was alot of play left and right in them, we carried spare top covers so we could remove the sight at night, you also have to be careful with eye relief or you end up with snipers eye ( brusing )
I was in the army in the 2000s early 2010s, most of our binoculars had been spilt in two. I wonder if why the army had lots of of signs and no mounts is because they where only used as scope’s
The FAL and its cousins are such aesthetically pleasing firearms. There's just something about the proportions that is more beautiful than the AK or AR patterns.
I would love to see a modern DSA FAL in a DMR build. Like what the Irish special forces used to use. Give the fal platform a fighting chance with modern optics
I shot the L1A1 while in the cadets at Cerberus AU Navy my score was 98 out of 100 at 500 yards, not bad for a 14 year old. :) Also had the chance to shoot with the F class boys and my first time shooting their weapon systems i was totally blown away witht he systems they had, thought it would be like just hunting rifles etc, but nope totally customized weapon systems 308 and 5.56 rifles, my first score was at 1,200 yards and was 38/50 and then 2nd time round was 48/50 ,and then found out that i had cataract in my right eye as well, now just would like to try again. But again because i got taught how to shoot or should i say the basic marksmanship protocols and also the massive expensive f class weapons did most of the work as well, but sure at those distances i:e 1 KM it was a great results never ever expected those results not at those distances ,love the channel as well, keep up the great work.🙌🙌👌👌👍👍✌✌😀😀
@@rowanhawklan9707 No, the US is much dirtier. US is either "Mediocre idea, USSOCOM works it into something good" or "great idea, sabotaged by US Army Ordinance Department".
Henry: your experience (13 minutes in) reflects exactly my own (1979) during pre-deployment training for Military Aid to the Civil Authority (a.k.a. The Troubles) in Northern Ireland: that is, I could shoot with reliable accuracy with iron sights, better than I could using the standard issue SUIT, which I could not adjust to a consistent zero at 100 metres. Woulda made a great monocular. . . . if only I coulda fitted it neatly into a pocket or pouch . . .
Just loved the SLR was a good gat, great killing power than the SA80 5.56 , I remember the 1st time I fired it in basic training, loved it lol, great show guys keep it going
I have never seen so many stoppages with the SLR, are the mags ok? gas settings? I was never a fan of the SUIT because of the crappy way it mounts to the weapon and the parallax error at close-in ranges the SUSAT on the L85 also has the parallax issue at short ranges too.. even with open sights every time an SLR was broken open to clean there is always the risk of a shift in zero anyway, ]and that's before the wobbly rear sight on a heavily worn one, when issued with the SUIT it came with a small green nylon pouch that had a belt loop but no hooks on the back.
So we've got this awesome sight for the army's rifles. Cool how does it attach? We haven't got that part done yet but we have plenty of Lego and some Meccano so it'll be fine.
One of the best aspects of the SLR is that it was the last UK issue rifle that actually looked like a real rifle, unlike that L85A3 that looks like something dreamed up by Dinky Toys.
I just watched Blokes video about this optic/setup. Got a feeling this won't do as well as your Scar 16 did! Edit: Also holy crap I'm first on a 9 hole video. Love your content bros, also I like your slate black rail panels but I wish you had more colors like OD green and a lighter tone of FDE =) EDIT2: Wow this did way better than I expected it to. Henry really is talented. Great shooting.
@@crocholiday409 I think the only ones that made it to the states or civilian hands are A1, which isn't really worth evaluating except as a showcase for how far the rifle came
I used the SUIT for 9 years, like everything in life if adjusted correctly it works as it was designed too. It was designed specifically for Northern Ireland. Made in Taunton, Somerset
Sight unit infantry trilux,we had the great SLR in the New Zealand Army in the 80s,heard about the sights but was never issued one lol first time we got optics was with the Steyr AUG
After a lot of experimentation & load development, I've dialled in my 1963 BSA L1A1 to shoot 10 round groups measuring on average 18" high & 10" wide at 600M (660yds). This is using a 3-9x40 scope & 20-30 seconds between shots. Definitely not the most accurate rifle around but that 18"x10" is 'minute of man' which is what it's all about. In comparison, my .270 Schultz & Larsen with the same scope will put 10 shots into a 6" circle at the same distance.
Loved the rifle hated the sight, I was accurate out to 600mtrs on open sights but pretty deadly up to 300mtrs used in anger N.I and Falklands. I still prefair the 7.62 51 NATO any day over 5.56, you didnt get many enemy combatants coming at you after being hit by 7.62 FMJ! like the site many good reviews thanks!
I acquired a Trilux scope in the early 90s, put it on my L1A1 and the results were dismal. Mine did not have the Tritium unit due to import restictions but that wasn't the issue. My primary complaint was that I wore glasses and getting proper eye relief was a challenge/impossible and because the scope did not have focal adjustment meant everything through the scope was fuzzy without my glasses rendering the scope worthless. This was brought up by Bloke On The Range. It looked good on the rifle but I was much better off with the iron sights.
the idea behind the upside down post, was so you could shoot at prone targets (less obscured by the post section). used them 78-84. quite a good scope at the time imho.Trijicon use a "hollow" post to work around this, in their current models. used them 78-84. quite a good scope imho
My era. Joined 88 still had the SLR then converted to the SA80. The SLR was lethal with a SUIT sight. Apart from the original teething problems with the new rifle it was very accurate from the beginning with the SUSAT sight. Similar sight picture but the post comes from bottom not top. I don’t think there was the problem you found with the SUIT when I used one. Could it be the ammo?
Hi, I was a marksman on the SLR in the fifties, sixties and seventies. Served in four armies, but the best shooting I ever observed on the range was in Rotorua, New Zealand when I was attached to the 6 RNZIR. At that time we were training for fighting in the bush or jungle and after zeroing in at 200m we fired off ten rounds in the standing position at 300, 400, 500 and 600m. At the furthest range I still had two soldiers hitting the target eight out of ten shots! It turned out that they were deer cullers who worked for the Government keeping the feral deer in controllable numbers. These were Territorial Soldiers using crappy SLR’s with iron sights. Later I have watched deer cullers shooting at deer from helicopters using SLR’s when they were in business shooting and recovering red deer for the export venison market. Don’t blame the rifle, adjust your technique and survive. Cheers mate. Harera
Only a brit would call anything involved with warfare ungentlemanly. I have found the reputation of being a savage useful from time to time. I'll hang onto it for now.
If you want to know who made the SUIT pick up a pair of 7x42 Avimo focus free binoculars. They were trialed in the late 70s and adopted by the Falklands war. You don't tend to see them in most G10 kits as ancient mid century binos with stadia lines abound and still work. They were/are however issued to RECCE platoons and the likes of forward observers. They look just like a pair of SUITs side by side. Same finish, same style eye cups. 33:19
I beg of you to put out a video on the later SUSAT scope! I’ve been trying to find as much information on those as possible. I own one with the standard mount and one with the commercial mount. And no I don’t have an SA80. But they do go on my Spanish CETME LV/S.
At 600 meters, run 100 to firing point, adopt position, watch and shoot 6 Falling plates from 500 meters, half inch armour plate 12 x 12 inches, no problems for this Gat, I loved mine..just peep and foresight,,,very very accurate in the right hands
If you mount an aftermarket rail system and an RMR redot the SLR sights are tall enough to coexis with your iron sights. A very nice dependable combination. Try it let us know what you think!!
The SLR is prone to failure to feed because of magazine manipulation. Thats why you dont hold the magazine or redt it on objects whilst shooting! I could aldo see you were going to have a failure to extract as it was short stoking. I found stting 3 to be the most reliable! As always, your weapon handling is brilliant! No silly racking the action more than once to clear it, and safety aplied when not on target👍
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See Mike(Bloke on the Range]'s L2A2 Trilux SUIT explode on his range after our discussion recording: ua-cam.com/video/0jW00vYWM_o/v-deo.html
If you haven't seen the Iron sight only L1A1 SLR, the video is here: ua-cam.com/video/q0j3AAfte2w/v-deo.html
hi just seen mikes sad "ouch" moment and break down of what happened
N I deployment heard a story about SF using that sight again loss of zero colaterial damage has to break it down to hit the deployment
1982 wee clash in south Atlantic from actual guys there yup hens teeth deployed in action
you keep up the excellent informative content Bestest from UK
Your a brave gent. after seeing Bloke on the Range whose SUIT sight departed into pieces and scope bit the biscuits out of him today... 0~o there was blood.. >~
yep my rifles gas regulator was set at 5 and then had jamming issues, which the instructor said to turn up the regulator to 7 or 8, ( which goes all the way up to 11 ) but still jammed, so had to cycle each round as i was shooting, which i believe that was the only problem with my weapon system when i shot it while in the cadets?
Also i broke the record to dismantle the SLR / L1A1 which i think was 48 seconds and then put it back together in less than 60 seconds, the most important was the gas regulator and making sure the spring does not go flying out of the chanbmer, but other than that, very good for what it was but the au militray did not like it because of the jamming issues, no matter what the gas regulator was set up at from 1 to 11 ?
Sir review on gilboa m43 please
I was a British Infantryman and we weren't issued with sights , all of our shooting was done with Iron Sights and when properly zeroed the SLR was very accurate .
i joined at the transition of SLR and SA80..... meuh.
Great weapon system. The first time I ever saw this site was my first tour of NI. I was given one on my second day in Armagh with a half hours instruction and no range time. I was told by my platoon commander if we got into a firefight to take it off and use the iron sights.
Same here in Australia Phillip. Great weapon 👍🇦🇺
Think this man needs your help.
The SLR.. the squaddies favorite meat remover..
Bring it back.
But a bit lighter
Also, you can see that he has to adjust laterally after each shot which would indicate that the rifle is not pointing naturally at the target (one of the marksmanship principles).
Pencil barrels, .308's, and long strings are the best combo for accuracy.
I've always wondered how old rifles with pencil barrels could ever hit a damn thing out to mid-long range after a few rounds.
Today I discovered: they don't.
@@prfwrx2497 As a FORMER owner of PSL, I discovered the same thing. On that one a "few" rounds means like number 3 or 4 might not go where you want.
It’s a standard issue military rifle, they aren’t designed to be fired one at a time, section fire is key. Although it’s very strange coming from a British rifle, being that the British army has always had very high marksmanship standards
Not to mention a reticle that isn't exactly great for precision at longer distance. That being said, at least it doesn't obscure the target.
For sure! Ask my Steyr scout, especially with a 10oz supressor on muzzle.
Interesting note: the 74 did almost just as well with the Soviet copy 1p29 sight as the SUIT. 1 shot difference.
Yeah, and the 74 was under very different conditions that run (gustier winds, cold temperatures, shooter and spotter likely fatigued). But then again, there weren't as many technical and mechanical fumbles with the 74 than with this SLR.
The Steyr AUG with ACSS optic did better than both
Fortunately, for Mike's chances of placing in his division at Finnish Brutality, his SUIT sight shit itself spectacularly into pieces, leaving him with the Primary Arms 3x SLX micro-prism as his only choice.
I’d rather see him run a ZF-41… just weld it on
@@williamflowers9435Braze it on for that African bush war look 😗👌🏻
Bloke doesn't have to worry about that now since his SUIT broke then gave him a 3rd eye. Boy that looked like it frickin' hurt. The epoxy held but the cast zinc/aluminum/magnesium alloy broke from recoil induced stress fractures.
7:50 I bought a British surplus MTP smock while stationed over in England.
It's my favorite jacket for out in the woods and dare I say: better than what we're being issued these days.
My father served in the UDR during the troubles in Northern Ireland.
He loved the SLR but wasn't a fan of the suit. He really disliked the upside down pointer as " you're not able to see what is behind your target" which in built up urban areas. Where civilians are a major factor, can be a great detriment
Good thing Brits didn't care about civilian casualties
I had an israeli heavy barrel FAL that I put a trilux on and was quite pleased with it, but I only had access to a 200yd range.
Measure your inch spread to calculate how well it would do at longer ranges
Tilting bolt rifles aren’t known for their accuracy.
The timing with Bloke's recent post on his broken SUIT/face is perfect.
I bent the sight mount crawling between rocks, took it off, and threw it away, reverting back to Iron Sights. Good to see the photos of the 6 Ptl 3 Para, RIP Doc, also Jimmy O'Connell second photo (Author of "3 Days in June") Longdon 1982.
Used the UK SLR a lot in my time . I had a SUIT sight installed on my SLR . YES you must do extensive testing because point of aim point of impact does go wonky . You have to understand this for long term engagement at distance with lots of rounds going down range . The SUIT was most developed for Northern Ireland [ Maybe I'm wrong ] On a patrol I had my head out a PIG with my SUIT ready and able … Absolutely ecstatic regarding your channel , reviews and shooting tests . Way to go 9-hole !
Goes wonky? Dunno what youre talking about there. 22 Yrs 2 Para, 4 yrs NI with the SUIT sight. Won the Walker Cup (NI), shot at Bisley wth it. I wonder if these lads could get hold of a single point sight used in NI for a while. Excellent snap shooting bit of kit. Fired with both eyes open. Withdrawn cos it encouraged snap shooting rather than aimed shots which went against the Yellow card (YAWN)
Exactly the set up I used in Northern Ireland in Crossmaglen and forkhill in 1974 and 75
SLRs were deployed to Desert Storm, secondary units granted (Royal Artillery had them) but they soldiered on until the early ninties, sans SUIT fortunatly for all involved.
Gotta say I love watching Practical Accuracy in two sittings. First I watch the run. Then I watch debrief as a separate part. But I think there is no need to split them in to two separate videos.
The discussion about the optic was fantastic.
I think its a perfect time for a A2 run at MOPP4
Ohh that's just mean.
@9HoleReviews Better hurry while it's still nice and hot out.
@@mattfleming86
They can call it the Silver Bullet Challenge
I had a SUIT on a Century Arms L1A1 Sporter back in the late 90's or early 2000's. I ditched it and replaced it with a modern low powered scope and was much happier.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I love my LEO B61 L1A1 with the Trilux. Thanks for doing this.
It is so good to watch two blokes who know what they are talking about, in depth. Much better than a couple of guys, talking 10 to the dozen with lots of hype, at a couple of frying pans in a desert.
Thanks for this video, you just confirmed for me that my problem wasn't my marksmanship, it was those damn sights.
Same ammo x51?
I’d imagine a heavier grain making all the difference with this rifle
@@Starcraft98marine We used the Aussie F-4 ammo, a 144gn pill, Same as is still used by some people for target rifle.
Workman and tools comes to mind
@@ganndeber1621 Normally that would be a possibility, however, I was on the ADF shooting team for 8 years and at one point was rated at number 4 in the army with a rifle.
Why is it that I have to watch you chaps having a great time doing what you love to do, that when I was in the TA in 74 we used the SLR it looks like the same rifle we used but we never 😢saw any clip on sights like these great clips thanks a million 😮 xx.
It was a close range scope mainly used in N.I to engage in a built up area especially against snipers eg inside rooms, we usually had 1 per 4 man brick looking for concealed shooters in said buildings.
My first weapon when I joined 1st Battalion Queens Regiment in 1982. Ps. Your stoppage drills and handling is shocking!
The FAL is the best looking rifle. The SUIT just improves those looks, I don't want to know if it's rubbish. Thanks for the content.
BOTH the rifle and the sight are excellent mate. Used them both in Northern Ireland (4 years)
If only Henry ended this with a wink saying "and I'll see you in Finland"
Bloke that's some good pronunciation! Impressed, normally Dutch is butchered.
Nice vid guys
I may have lived in the Netherlands for 8 years, which I believe is considered cheating 😅
I’ve been waiting for this one!
My favourite DPM was the 1963 'smock'. Patterned after the '44 smock but with a zip down the front so it was a jacket but still called a smock.
I used to regulally shoot my SLR No. 101061 out to 600m with iron sights with decent accuracy. Used the Suit to do scanning but I am shocked at how it lowers the rifles accuracy.
To be fair, the rifle is OK. the scope is wobbly shite.
@@prfwrx2497 To be fairer, the scope itself is also OK, the mount is wobbly shite. ;)
Nice optic. Interesting mounting; but rivited to a bit of formed sheet metal?
Nah! Had one; found the same issues. Over-bent the TC and added a pc of alum shim to the "nose" improved it some for a while.
@@jameshealy4594 it didn't actually have a mount as it was fitted to the standard SLR top cover which had a slight wobble , If it had a purpose built mount it would have been much more accurate .
We had these on our SLR in basic training , we were told by the time we hit the battalion , SA80 would be delivered within weeks , so to get used to having optics that's what we had , I felt there was alot of play left and right in them, we carried spare top covers so we could remove the sight at night, you also have to be careful with eye relief or you end up with snipers eye ( brusing )
Hell yeah!!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS
I was in the army in the 2000s early 2010s, most of our binoculars had been spilt in two. I wonder if why the army had lots of of signs and no mounts is because they where only used as scope’s
Growing up in Hong Kong, Henry's tropical DPM makes one shed a nostalgic tear.
The FAL and its cousins are such aesthetically pleasing firearms. There's just something about the proportions that is more beautiful than the AK or AR patterns.
Debatable
@@DrunrealerDebate it then
You stole my thoughts👍👍
The fal and ak look like cousins dude
@@jason200912 I don't think they look much alike at all. Then again, the M14 and AK actually are cousins, and they don't look much alike either.
That mounting system makes me appreciate picatinny rails even more
I would love to see a modern DSA FAL in a DMR build. Like what the Irish special forces used to use. Give the fal platform a fighting chance with modern optics
Wish granted, they make a top cover with a pic rail
I shot the L1A1 while in the cadets at Cerberus AU Navy my score was 98 out of 100 at 500 yards, not bad for a 14 year old. :)
Also had the chance to shoot with the F class boys and my first time shooting their weapon systems i was totally blown away witht he systems they had, thought it would be like just hunting rifles etc, but nope totally customized weapon systems 308 and 5.56 rifles, my first score was at 1,200 yards and was 38/50 and then 2nd time round was 48/50 ,and then found out that i had cataract in my right eye as well, now just would like to try again.
But again because i got taught how to shoot or should i say the basic marksmanship protocols and also the massive expensive f class weapons did most of the work as well, but sure at those distances i:e 1 KM it was a great results never ever expected those results not at those distances ,love the channel as well, keep up the great work.🙌🙌👌👌👍👍✌✌😀😀
Thank you for the rekindled memories and banter.
"Great idea, poorly implemented" should be this country's epitaph, honestly.
Kind of like the USA then?
Buffoon
@@rowanhawklan9707 No, the US is much dirtier. US is either "Mediocre idea, USSOCOM works it into something good" or "great idea, sabotaged by US Army Ordinance Department".
@@rowanhawklan9707Yeah,
thanks to the Socialist Dems, and their open border policies.
And also traitorous
RINOs.
@@rowanhawklan9707 salty much? Both countries are fucked
Josh and Henry.....great content as always.
With the rounded foregrip and circular vents looks like a nice product of Lithgow
I was also lucky enough to have a full wooden furniture rifle Gucci as hell!
Henry: your experience (13 minutes in) reflects exactly my own (1979) during pre-deployment training for Military Aid to the Civil Authority (a.k.a. The Troubles) in Northern Ireland: that is, I could shoot with reliable accuracy with iron sights, better than I could using the standard issue SUIT, which I could not adjust to a consistent zero at 100 metres.
Woulda made a great monocular. . . . if only I coulda fitted it neatly into a pocket or pouch . . .
Just saw a friend of mine in one of those photos you included in your post. 1981 Belfast.
Just loved the SLR was a good gat, great killing power than the SA80 5.56 , I remember the 1st time I fired it in basic training, loved it lol, great show guys keep it going
Ive been curious for some time, and I knew about their mixed reputation, so I am happy to receive some knowledge from you, gents!
I have never seen so many stoppages with the SLR, are the mags ok? gas settings? I was never a fan of the SUIT because of the crappy way it mounts to the weapon and the parallax error at close-in ranges the SUSAT on the L85 also has the parallax issue at short ranges too.. even with open sights every time an SLR was broken open to clean there is always the risk of a shift in zero anyway, ]and that's before the wobbly rear sight on a heavily worn one, when issued with the SUIT it came with a small green nylon pouch that had a belt loop but no hooks on the back.
A lot of the FALs in the US are parts kit builds and the receiver makers have been notoriously varying in quality.
@@norwegianwiking - that eplains a lot thanks for the input
Need more nerdiness from the Bloke and Henry reference DPM jackets.
Just watched Bloke's video from today on this optic. Eye pro might be a good idea in the future. 😬
Absolutely
no an armor on fore head would have been better in my opinion
So we've got this awesome sight for the army's rifles.
Cool how does it attach?
We haven't got that part done yet but we have plenty of Lego and some Meccano so it'll be fine.
One of the best aspects of the SLR is that it was the last UK issue rifle that actually looked like a real rifle, unlike that L85A3 that looks like something dreamed up by Dinky Toys.
Having seen Mike's range video on the SUIT, I think we can safely say it will NOT be going to Finnish Brutality.
I think the videos of Swedens Ak4 with old scope - shows the truth in what Mike did say.
Even before the Spuhr upgrade. 🙂
The service weapon I trained on. Thankyou :)
By 3:53 the venom from whatever bit Josh is beginning to inhibit his speech 😮
I just watched Blokes video about this optic/setup. Got a feeling this won't do as well as your Scar 16 did!
Edit: Also holy crap I'm first on a 9 hole video. Love your content bros, also I like your slate black rail panels but I wish you had more colors like OD green and a lighter tone of FDE =)
EDIT2: Wow this did way better than I expected it to. Henry really is talented. Great shooting.
i take it you have seen blokes video that just dropped ????
Best rifle ever made.
Great shooting as usual.. I just don’t understand why this channel is not even at 500k subscribers???
Be class if you could do the SA80 range and see the improvements as they go on. I'm not sure it's possible to get the sa80 in private hands tho
A2 if possible. A1 we don't talk about, ever.
As far as I know, there are no civilian SA80s in the US. Someone out there may have a post sample/real one in a very high-end collection.
@@crocholiday409 we would need to ask gun jesus he did a review a while back
@@crocholiday409 I think the only ones that made it to the states or civilian hands are A1, which isn't really worth evaluating except as a showcase for how far the rifle came
There was a production run of semi-auto L85's, there are a few in Canada, so few though that it isn't actually on the ban list@@crocholiday409
I had one of the Israeli AR SUIT Scope Mounts for the AR Handle. Tried it a couple of times and what a neck strain.
Henry is the only person on you tube I always watch all the way through asking to join everytime. That is simply hilarious to me.
I do love seeing a SLR every now and again
I used the SUIT for 9 years, like everything in life if adjusted correctly it works as it was designed too. It was designed specifically for Northern Ireland. Made in Taunton, Somerset
Sight unit infantry trilux,we had the great SLR in the New Zealand Army in the 80s,heard about the sights but was never issued one lol first time we got optics was with the Steyr AUG
Love this firing sound
Loved the Indian Ishapores I bought 2. Converted one w a sniper scope and bi pod. The other 1 I left stock.
That is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
After a lot of experimentation & load development, I've dialled in my 1963 BSA L1A1 to shoot 10 round groups measuring on average 18" high & 10" wide at 600M (660yds). This is using a 3-9x40 scope & 20-30 seconds between shots.
Definitely not the most accurate rifle around but that 18"x10" is 'minute of man' which is what it's all about.
In comparison, my .270 Schultz & Larsen with the same scope will put 10 shots into a 6" circle at the same distance.
Loved the rifle hated the sight, I was accurate out to 600mtrs on open sights but pretty deadly up to 300mtrs used in anger N.I and Falklands. I still prefair the 7.62 51 NATO any day over 5.56, you didnt get many enemy combatants coming at you after being hit by 7.62 FMJ! like the site many good reviews thanks!
The sight looks like a highly modernized version of the warner and swazey musket sight
I thought that too
I guess it's the eyepiece.
I acquired a Trilux scope in the early 90s, put it on my L1A1 and the results were dismal. Mine did not have the Tritium unit due to import restictions but that wasn't the issue. My primary complaint was that I wore glasses and getting proper eye relief was a challenge/impossible and because the scope did not have focal adjustment meant everything through the scope was fuzzy without my glasses rendering the scope worthless. This was brought up by Bloke On The Range. It looked good on the rifle but I was much better off with the iron sights.
the idea behind the upside down post, was so you could shoot at prone targets (less obscured by the post section). used them 78-84. quite a good scope at the time imho.Trijicon use a "hollow" post to work around this, in their current models. used them 78-84. quite a good scope imho
Best thing about suit sights was the nylon pouch it came in. In Northern Ireland one person in each team would have a suit sight fitted.
You talk shite. Obviously a craphat.
Love all your videos.
Please do more podcast sir the sound of your voice is calming lol.
Thank you and Josh for all the content.
The FAL doesn’t fail. Cheers.
Thankfully, Henry didn't get the Glasgow Kiss...
I use the STANAG on my L1A1 and it is a retyrn to battery scope that works very well.
Idea! C96 mauser! They have sights out to 1000 meters from the factory
FAL is one of my favorite rifles , but currently do not own one dang it ! I do have its grandfather though. An FN 49
My era. Joined 88 still had the SLR then converted to the SA80. The SLR was lethal with a SUIT sight. Apart from the original teething problems with the new rifle it was very accurate from the beginning with the SUSAT sight. Similar sight picture but the post comes from bottom not top. I don’t think there was the problem you found with the SUIT when I used one. Could it be the ammo?
The only way to wear a SUIT to the range.
The Camo shirt/jacket pattern you are wearing we called the mighty DPM (Disruptive Pattern Material)
Hi, I was a marksman on the SLR in the fifties, sixties and seventies. Served in four armies, but the best shooting I ever observed on the range was in Rotorua, New Zealand when I was attached to the 6 RNZIR. At that time we were training for fighting in the bush or jungle and after zeroing in at 200m we fired off ten rounds in the standing position at 300, 400, 500 and 600m. At the furthest range I still had two soldiers hitting the target eight out of ten shots! It turned out that they were deer cullers who worked for the Government keeping the feral deer in controllable numbers. These were Territorial Soldiers using crappy SLR’s with iron sights. Later I have watched deer cullers shooting at deer from helicopters using SLR’s when they were in business shooting and recovering red deer for the export venison market. Don’t blame the rifle, adjust your technique and survive. Cheers mate. Harera
Only a brit would call anything involved with warfare ungentlemanly. I have found the reputation of being a savage useful from time to time. I'll hang onto it for now.
Good thing he did this before bloke on the range’s vid was posted
If you want to know who made the SUIT pick up a pair of 7x42 Avimo focus free binoculars. They were trialed in the late 70s and adopted by the Falklands war. You don't tend to see them in most G10 kits as ancient mid century binos with stadia lines abound and still work. They were/are however issued to RECCE platoons and the likes of forward observers. They look just like a pair of SUITs side by side. Same finish, same style eye cups. 33:19
I beg of you to put out a video on the later SUSAT scope! I’ve been trying to find as much information on those as possible. I own one with the standard mount and one with the commercial mount. And no I don’t have an SA80. But they do go on my Spanish CETME LV/S.
At 600 meters, run 100 to firing point, adopt position, watch and shoot 6 Falling plates from 500 meters, half inch armour plate 12 x 12 inches, no problems for this Gat, I loved mine..just peep and foresight,,,very very accurate in the right hands
If you mount an aftermarket rail system and an RMR redot the SLR sights are tall enough to coexis with your iron sights. A very nice dependable combination. Try it let us know what you think!!
Shooting even slightly downward is much nicer. Cheers for the vid lads.
Great Video 😊
great shooting as always
Don’t wanna be that guy, but the M14 with irons did better 😏. All jokes aside great shooting Henry and great video overall. FALs are fun to watch
looks a prestige rifle ... since I was a cadet , my platoon leader was training at the royal military's academy and he was commending with the SLR
Love y'all videos keep up great work 🔥🔥🔥
WE NEED TO see you shoot a Walther WA 2000. PLz and thank you
Waiting on your Famas with Scrome J4 optic review.
I had one of these with a preban Steyr import FN FAL.
The Belgian FAL and this copy of it was the last real quality militairy gun
The SLR is prone to failure to feed because of magazine manipulation. Thats why you dont hold the magazine or redt it on objects whilst shooting! I could aldo see you were going to have a failure to extract as it was short stoking. I found stting 3 to be the most reliable!
As always, your weapon handling is brilliant! No silly racking the action more than once to clear it, and safety aplied when not on target👍
Do the desert tech mdrx in .308 at range!