G3 - HK91 - PTR91 to 500yds: Practical Accuracy

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    The H&K G3 was a tremendously prolific rifle that was produced mainly in Germany, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Pakistan and of course, the US copy by PTR industries. It was adapted and used in even more places around the world, and even 50+ year old relics have been seen in operation in war-torn Africa and the Middle east.
    The roller delayed blowback system was developed in WW2, refined by CETME in Spain and later by Heckler & Koch. The same system that would give birth to the famous MP5.
    There have been many who are skeptical about the iron sights on the G3, and some who doubt it's effectiveness when compared to more contemporary SR25 and FAL type rifles, but how does it do on range?
    We found some German MEN 7.62NATO surplus, to pair with our G3 clone / PTR91 with no optical attachments to see how it does...
    Special thanks to a few people for this episode:
    - Bryan S. - Thanks to Bryan (Patreon supporter) for sending this rifle in for our testing!
    - Brandon // The Gun Room - Thank you for your continued FFL support.
    - Steve B. - Thank you for... the props and emotional support.
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    Distance Conversions:
    150y - 137m
    200y - 182m
    250y - 229m
    300y - 274m
    350y - 320m
    400y - 366m
    450y - 411m
    500y - 457m
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +349

    We're seeing some guys who consider the AR10 as a major cold war battle rifle. I specifically mentioned the much more prolific SR25 (produced in the 90's) and not the AR10 (which in the early Cold War, was not produced in significant numbers)
    We've talked about this at length in our M110 video, but the original AR10 is absolutely not an SR25. Significant development took place before the system took shape as an SR25.
    It's true that the OG AR10 were used by the Portuguese Paras, but the amount produced were so insignificant compared to the G3, M14 and FAL that it's hard to call it one of the major battle rifles. In fact majority G3's in Africa are Portuguese FMP produced G3's, and in fact we will cover the Portuguese military unit's widespread deployment of the G3 and subsequent modernization in a later video.
    It would be like saying that the FG42 was a major small arm in WW2.
    - Was the FG42 deployed with such effect that it shaped the fighting in WW2? -> No. To few were produced and too few were fielded.
    - Was the FG42 an interesting design that had potential? -> Yes, and in fact it influenced the later M60 GPMG that had wide fielding in the US... still, the FG42 is not a "major rifle" fielded in WW2, and neither is the AR10 a "major battlerifle" fielded during the Cold War.

    • @kaloschke
      @kaloschke 3 роки тому +3

      Guys for 500m you turn this back to first setting and eyeball it with tracers untill you get used to it and than switch back to normal ammo or just use the G3 ZF 😉

    • @DoctyrEvil
      @DoctyrEvil 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed the closest match is probably the CETME and the most reasonable US point of reference has to be the M14, which did see significant battlefield usage.

    • @tengu190
      @tengu190 3 роки тому

      Put a PWS FSC 91 or OSS Bannar brake, tungsten bolt carrier, and a heavier buffer and recoil spring and it will be even more controllable.

    • @frankmorris4790
      @frankmorris4790 3 роки тому

      Greetings from New Mexico. I am a guy with aging eyes. I have an early PTR 91 I would like to set it up with a red dot. what can be had for a suitable rail that will allow for a proper cheek weld? Really hard to find anything suitablesince the stock is so straight line.

    • @Proculopsis
      @Proculopsis 3 роки тому +1

      @3:07 - Fuiyoh, lovin' the Uncle Roger reference 😃
      Haiyaaa © Copyright 2020,2021 - Uncle Roger
      💓

  • @calholli
    @calholli 3 роки тому +1281

    That skit was a masterpiece, I can't believe you actually hired Val Killmer.

    • @deletdis6173
      @deletdis6173 3 роки тому +71

      I can't believe Val Kilmer actually hired Henry Chan, is more like it. :D

    • @avnrulz8587
      @avnrulz8587 3 роки тому +22

      Hell of a trailer, when do we get the movie!?

    • @sik59rt
      @sik59rt 3 роки тому +24

      Skinny Val kilmer too!

    • @iglooproductions
      @iglooproductions 3 роки тому +9

      I left your comment at 556 likes.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 3 роки тому +9

      Love the clips from "Heat." Great movie!" It is one of very few movies out there with NO sound track! You get to hear ALL of the car chases and gun battles. A Masterpiece!

  • @chassoto
    @chassoto 3 роки тому +894

    The knob on the back sets the "stopping power" so you should always have it as high as you can.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +330

      the PSG-1 even has the sniper button.

    • @thunderring8056
      @thunderring8056 3 роки тому +57

      @@9HoleReviews Ah so that’s why it’s more accurate then the G3!

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 3 роки тому +21

      Myths aside, that's funny as Hell.

    • @Rhynome
      @Rhynome 3 роки тому +4

      @GbbJunkie yeah nah, that's unsourced nonsense.

    • @ReverendMeat51
      @ReverendMeat51 3 роки тому +22

      @@Rhynome the source is SoF magazine.

  • @TheBobes
    @TheBobes 3 роки тому +138

    Higher production value on the intro for this video than Netflix has on their shows.

  • @peykanjavanan2226
    @peykanjavanan2226 2 роки тому +141

    I lived with G3 for 21 months. When I was a "Tofangdar" (Marine) in the Iranian Navy during the military service , G3 is one of the most ridiculous weapons and it is very heavy with a stupid kick, but is very accurate and you can easily hit Sibel at a distance of 600 meters without a camera on the gun
    Edit : sorry for my bad language

    • @nicholaspatton5590
      @nicholaspatton5590 2 роки тому +17

      Language good :)
      You may have wanted to say scope instead of camera.
      The G3 does work. Yes.

    • @TheDesertegal7
      @TheDesertegal7 Рік тому +5

      if its kicking then rollers out of adjustment or the buffer not good, a clone is a clone

    • @MrTaterTot1823
      @MrTaterTot1823 Рік тому +4

      Ah yes the camera on the gun😂. Jk just giving you a hard time.

    • @thunderbear0
      @thunderbear0 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TheDesertegal7they are licensed so aren't clone

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +1603

    If your cousin has ever "gifted" you with a weapon that has obviously been used in a murder...go hit that subscribe button

    • @calholli
      @calholli 3 роки тому +79

      If you ever stuck it inside her and got garandThumb--

    • @vandahm
      @vandahm 3 роки тому +47

      SLAP THAT LIKE BUTTON like it tried to SCAM YOU IN A DRUG DEAL

    • @georgiobenelli4854
      @georgiobenelli4854 3 роки тому +11

      Maybe no murder,BUT, it has definately killed,

    • @georgiobenelli4854
      @georgiobenelli4854 3 роки тому +6

      @@calholli and nose..

    • @alexanderm3504
      @alexanderm3504 3 роки тому +6

      Lol

  • @zippyholland3001
    @zippyholland3001 3 роки тому +160

    That H-Anime sticker that seals the envelope... Nice touch...

    • @chassoto
      @chassoto 3 роки тому +20

      I giggled like a schoolgirl.

    • @Szalami
      @Szalami 3 роки тому +18

      I love how they keep embracing their fanbase rather than rejecting it.

    • @blooder81
      @blooder81 3 роки тому +6

      lala deviluke from to love ru xtreme echhi anime

  • @JE-sc2py
    @JE-sc2py 3 роки тому +194

    I used the G3 during my military service with the German army. Even with very limited training on the G3 I was able to do good results up to 400m. That rifle is so easy to use, the sight is easy to understand and when you take it, it simply fits. You can drop it in the mud or sand it still works. Maybe not as good as the famous AK47 but more precise. With a proper scope you can use it even up to 800m+.

    • @shysexy
      @shysexy 2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely

    • @bionmccool
      @bionmccool 2 роки тому +2

      800+ feels like a bolt-action realm. Maybe it's possible, but like 500 yards with a Krink.

    • @jamesmackinnon3741
      @jamesmackinnon3741 2 роки тому +11

      I can assure you it is much better than an AK in the mud. AK's are absolutely terrible when it comes to that kind of reliability. What AK's are really famous for is their ability to go long periods of time without cleaning and their performance in artic conditions. This is due to their low tolerances and large controls.

    • @DoraTheMFDestroya
      @DoraTheMFDestroya Рік тому +8

      @@bionmccool
      any 308 platform is capable of 900m+ shots. it's effective max range is around 970 or 980. I've seen hunters use the PTR-91 clone of the g3 to drop deer out to around 850. it's entirely possible and with training is easy.

    • @anarchclown
      @anarchclown Рік тому +11

      Used it in the Swedish army while others were using the FN FNC 5.56 at the same time. They were destroying us at 100 metres. But once we got up to 200 and 300 metres, they were struggling and we were just hitting our stride having figured out how to deal with the heavier rifle. Also we found out that unlike 5.56... 7.62 is a little like having wall or tree hack. You can shoot people through things with it a lot easier.

  • @Chris09978
    @Chris09978 3 роки тому +301

    Oh shit man, the Chinese accent broken English kills me,
    I’m Chinese as well and this shit is hilarious

    • @4IN14094
      @4IN14094 3 роки тому +11

      When one is proficient with a language enough, odds are, they make fun at the stereotype accent people keep thinking they have.

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 3 роки тому +23

      It's even better because he's fucking *fluent* in that and english

    • @Chris09978
      @Chris09978 3 роки тому

      @@tacomas9602 yup

    • @fredmercury1314
      @fredmercury1314 3 роки тому +10

      I thought it was a bad impression of a Welshman.

    • @MrBielsoN
      @MrBielsoN 3 роки тому +7

      @fred ....a sheep 2 far 😂

  • @Rakadis
    @Rakadis 3 роки тому +167

    As a long time user of the AG-3 (Norwegian version of the G3) I can only say that people underestimate the iron sights. The drum sights are fantastic. It is a shame that the HK416 that I had to change to does not have them... But then again, I have not had a military rifle without some kind of optics since 2005. So might be my nostalgia that gets me.

    • @Rakadis
      @Rakadis 3 роки тому +14

      @Eric Sales Mostly Aimpoints, but there where some ACOG mounted as well.

    • @dexm2010
      @dexm2010 3 роки тому +3

      @@Rakadis I wonder which ACOG model was used? I use a TA33 ACOG on my kit built G3...not bad, but I like the reticle on the Hensoldt Z24 scopes better (although the eye relief kind of sucks; it is too short).

    • @Rakadis
      @Rakadis 3 роки тому +4

      @@dexm2010 I have no idea what ACOG they used. Only handled the ACOG version once or twice on the range.

    • @destroyerarmor2846
      @destroyerarmor2846 3 роки тому +4

      G3A3 is an awesome beast. Still doing work in East Africa

    • @vczs
      @vczs 3 роки тому +5

      Drum sight is my favourite to be completely honest. If I have to use irons, drums are my go to choice.

  • @towakin7718
    @towakin7718 3 роки тому +276

    I also want to get to a point in my life where I'll just casually have an FG 42 on the table xD

  • @curlybill3966
    @curlybill3966 3 роки тому +29

    I bought a H&K G91 brand new for $500 in 83.Lived on a farm, got to shoot it whenever I wanted. Unbelievably accurate for a sheet metal rifle. Moved to town , never got to shoot it, so I sold it at a gun show for $600 and bought this thing called a Glock 19 that was supposed to be the handgun of the future. I just know that 91 is still banging in someone’s hands, somewhere...

  • @labhrainn
    @labhrainn 3 роки тому +64

    The G3 is an excellent weapon, I lugged one around for a couple of decades. The Norwegian Army only fairly recently phased it out, but it is still the main combat rifle in the Home Defence units. The combat sight is the 200 diopter and soldiers are trained to "forlegg" the sights in accordance to the range (and direction of movement). When the 200 diopter is used the projectile trajectory crosses the sight line at 30m and 200m. The Norwegian Army therefore had/has lots and lots of 30m ranges. The Germans I believe use a 100m range and balance the centre ball of the target on the top of the foresight. For targets over 300m it is obviously better to use the 300 or 400 diopter. The open 100 sight is for night firing or when light conditions are too poor for a diopter sight. The effective range is up to 400 as the video adequately demonstrates.

    • @AienAristeuein
      @AienAristeuein Рік тому +2

      The Home Guard has changed to HK416 as well now.

  • @Jargolf86
    @Jargolf86 3 роки тому +505

    I'm a simple former German Soldier, i see G3 i like!

    • @OutsideTheTargetDemographic
      @OutsideTheTargetDemographic 3 роки тому +3

      You liar, Klinger served in Korea, not Germany!

    • @joseramirez9599
      @joseramirez9599 3 роки тому +2

      Any experience with the G36?

    • @sebastiaooliveira928
      @sebastiaooliveira928 3 роки тому +6

      @@joseramirez9599 it's a piece of crap, never lived up to the name.

    • @DUDA-__-
      @DUDA-__- 3 роки тому +12

      @@sebastiaooliveira928 have you served with it?

    • @sebastiaooliveira928
      @sebastiaooliveira928 3 роки тому +3

      @@DUDA-__- Never had the opportunity to used it but older comrades used it, it's not the worst gun in the world but for an HK is not good enough.

  • @rsengineering
    @rsengineering 3 роки тому +16

    The 200 peep sight is used from 0-200m for precision shots. The 100m marked V notch is used "at night", during close quarter combat like in urban terrain or to fight off the adversary when he tries to storm your position.
    The default setting during daylight in defensive position is 200. Soldiers change settings on their own or on orders.
    Enemy approaches. Gruppenfuehrer befielt: (squad leader commands:)
    Fertigmachen zum Feuerueberfall (Get ready for surprise fire raid), Entfernung 200 (Distance 200), Zielverteilung von links nach rechts ( targets taken from left to right), Feuereroeffung auf Pfiff (Fire on signal whistle), whistle, boom. When done right, it sounds like one shot.
    Basic traing fire drill.
    ZDV 3/13 is the german army G3 manual.
    The ammunition will shoot about 6cm" high at 50m, 8 high at 100, 6 cm at 150 and spot on at 200m for the 200m setting.
    Attachment 6 of the ZDV 3/13. It also regulates how the rifles are sighted in and adjusted.

    • @felixraithel9055
      @felixraithel9055 3 роки тому +1

      That's absolutely correct! alot of people mistake the 1( V - Kimme) for the standard setting for 100 Meter distance.

  • @AlphaChimpEnergy
    @AlphaChimpEnergy 3 роки тому +140

    At least the cousin left him some money for half a mag.. Super considerate!

    • @travishabursky4362
      @travishabursky4362 3 роки тому +16

      No shit, I found two boxes of 7.62X51 today at a local sporting good store for $70 a piece for 20 round boxes. Thats $3.50 a round.

    • @AlphaChimpEnergy
      @AlphaChimpEnergy 3 роки тому +7

      @@travishabursky4362 one of the strangest things I’ve seen is defensive or hunting ammo isn’t marked up as high as ball target loads. Im really fortunate that I bought so much ammo when it was so low.
      I laugh when I see the prices now and shout your not gonna get me!
      Anyone else remember after sandy hook how dudes were buying guns just to get the magazines they came with! I sold all my old magazines to dudes that I worked with at 30$ each bec everyone else was charging $50-75/each. It took about 18mo for the market to stabilize and manufacturing to catch up with demand. Guns got slightly cheaper during that mag and ammo run bec of the scarce ammo & mags.

    • @AlphaChimpEnergy
      @AlphaChimpEnergy 3 роки тому

      What a bargain, you got both right?!

    • @travishabursky4362
      @travishabursky4362 3 роки тому +1

      @@AlphaChimpEnergy I didn’t bother, I’m building a CETME modelo 58 C right now and I test anything I own by running steel cased ammunition through them first. As if a gun can’t run steel, it doesn’t deserve to run brass; and I would need to trouble shoot whatever issues it was having.

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +202

    Cousin Harry has some good handwriting...and also a weeb

  • @vector4632
    @vector4632 3 роки тому +370

    3:37
    "To my dearest cousin"
    *Anime Girl used as a stamp for closing the envelope*
    Yeah, he's legit; There's good shit in that

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +25

      Weeb as fuck...I like cousin Harry

  • @joshuaholder7606
    @joshuaholder7606 3 роки тому +58

    "no scope, no problem" t-shirt

    • @Anino_Makata
      @Anino_Makata 3 роки тому +4

      Fuck yes, put that on a T-shirt!

  • @JoshuaCalvert80
    @JoshuaCalvert80 3 роки тому +22

    Again my old service rifle featured in your video, I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as I did 23 years ago. We shot the G3 with iron sights at 400m every time we went to the shooting range.

    • @destroyerarmor2846
      @destroyerarmor2846 3 роки тому +1

      Idiots with AK have no chance against G3A3 at range

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 3 роки тому +1

      @@destroyerarmor2846 FWIW , I have a PTR 32 , basically a G3 in 762x39 and it shoots circles around my Bulgarian milled AK . The design lends itself to some pretty good accuracy. I qualified with the G3 back in the 80’s and shot it better than my issued M16.

  • @ifureadthis_urgay
    @ifureadthis_urgay 3 роки тому +286

    0:36 i bet Henry ate the black part of the banana like the gamer chad that he is 😎

  • @mn_rifleman
    @mn_rifleman 3 роки тому +143

    I hope that FG42 copy is getting a run at the range..😉

    • @jmullner76
      @jmullner76 3 роки тому +2

      Hope that just isn't a tease.

  • @kalled4662
    @kalled4662 3 роки тому +44

    Cool to se the swedish marksmans rifle in this clip. Because I am the senior NCO for that school. Thanks for great content. If you need more info about the AK4D im glad to help out.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +22

      please email us at 9holereviews@gmail.com , I'd love to chat to you more! We're working on the AK4D project from this rifle.

    • @kalled4662
      @kalled4662 3 роки тому +5

      @@9HoleReviews I will

    • @amclips2995
      @amclips2995 3 роки тому +4

      @@kalled4662 Skönt att det kommer lite riktig info till grabbarna! Kikarsikte 09 verkar de ju redan ha.. samma som oss i HV också. :-)

  • @wj47
    @wj47 3 роки тому +8

    My favorite rifle. Love it, served with it and the mg3 loved them both 😊. Normaly you keep it at 200 meters and just shift your sight point. You learn this normaly in a day. It levels with battle amo at 30m and 200m. I have fired this at -42C and after dragging it through mud looking like hell. It never fails.

  • @Bowwex
    @Bowwex 3 роки тому +94

    This intro and lore is getting deeper than Flannel Daddy’s videos

  • @hanfpeter2822
    @hanfpeter2822 3 роки тому +61

    12:49 someone please submit that to brandon herrera for cursed gun Images

  • @CGPT76
    @CGPT76 3 роки тому +5

    This is still used today for basic training in the Portuguese Armed Forces. This was what I used in 90's during basic training.
    We took a few of them to Iraq in 04, despite the fact that we wore using the G36. I always had a G3 in my vehicle as a backup. The G3 takes down those Iraq walls easy, and didn't hide behind them anymore when they realized chunks of the wall was coming down.

  • @TwistyP_EVO
    @TwistyP_EVO 3 роки тому +22

    It has been 2 years since i touched a g3, as it was my weapon as ground infantry. My first weapon as a fresh recruit was a gun made in 72, rollers basically worn down, and the sights were stuck to 2nd pos. I hated shooting that thing. About a week of me trying to shoot it i went to the armory with permission and asked a new one.: With that weapon i got my marksmanship star and fell in love . Recoil never aeemed to bother me as i have fired shotguns before, even normal ones are quite accurate, military trigger, meaning its pretty hard, but doesn't feel that bad. My only concern with the rifle was the length of pull: it was quite long that after a while of aiming it gets really tiring

  • @farmerbrown84
    @farmerbrown84 3 роки тому +55

    Had to go and open the safe and give my G3's a rub...
    Let them know they still aren't forgotten!

    • @OutsideTheTargetDemographic
      @OutsideTheTargetDemographic 3 роки тому +9

      Rub it and slap it. It's the HK way. Sometimes you gotta slap it to get into battery, am I right? 😘

    • @georgiobenelli4854
      @georgiobenelli4854 3 роки тому +5

      I bought mine at Jims Pawn and Gun in Fayettenam NC in 1983 for $425.00

    • @slavsupreme5129
      @slavsupreme5129 3 роки тому +6

      @@georgiobenelli4854 just went there a couple days ago, amazing how it looks like they’re still in the same location 40 years later 😁

    • @georgiobenelli4854
      @georgiobenelli4854 3 роки тому +5

      @@slavsupreme5129 they are good guys working there.. i give mine a rub also, and cry aboutall the good ammo deals 20 yrs ago.

    • @evanfoster403
      @evanfoster403 3 роки тому

      Y’all have any problems with yours being a bitch to charge sometimes?

  • @thunderring8056
    @thunderring8056 3 роки тому +13

    I was just thinking about how much I’d like like a PSG1 video but this definitely scratches that itch. I know this is going to be an awesome video as always.

  • @Hawkeye308
    @Hawkeye308 3 роки тому +45

    I feel like Josh is getting better at spotting. Seems a lot more consistent with he observation terms.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +54

      Getting a better spotting setup certainly has made things easier (thanks Vortex). It's still incredibly difficult spotting through a camera viewfinder as opposed to through the actual optic as you normally would. Pre-9 Hole, I'd done all my spotting and calls working with optics and measurements (mils). So it's been a unique challenge going from calling mil corrections and wind for familiar calibers, to having to be able to communicate consistently with a shooter who's only using iron sights (and in some cases shooting cartridges neither of us are familiar with in terms of performance in wind etc). Been a learning process for sure. - Josh

    • @Hawkeye308
      @Hawkeye308 3 роки тому +5

      @@9HoleReviews I can see how that'd be a big adjustment. I never really thought too much about the camera/spotting scope setup too much either but now I'm think that the screen probably gets washed out in the bright light pretty often too. Keep up the great work, I absolutely love this channel.

  • @andik.4235
    @andik.4235 3 роки тому +8

    Oh that intro makes way more sense after watching the shooting segment. Nicly done, and finally somebody who recognizes the sighting system for what is meant for, and not started complaining, meh, want my aperture sight back.

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +73

    Henry is like "how am I gonna explain this to the wife? You think she believe I didn't actually by this G3 with our life savings?"

  • @Thorax321
    @Thorax321 3 роки тому +40

    Henry is absurdly good with iron sights. I wish I had access to as good a range!

    • @chassoto
      @chassoto 3 роки тому +1

      I wish my eyes weren't 50 years old. I can usually see targets better than the front post...

    • @kentr2424
      @kentr2424 3 роки тому +3

      You know, I'd love to see Henry do practical accuracy testing at a Swiss range.....Those electronic targets at 300 m are the cat's meow.

    • @janbernad4729
      @janbernad4729 3 роки тому +5

      @@chassoto my eyes are 20 years old and I cant see clearly anything past the rear sight😂 fuck the eyesight, aim with your heart

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 3 роки тому

      having a good spotter helps alot with irons like that

  • @zachc6461
    @zachc6461 3 роки тому +12

    Love this vid, the G3 gets knocked so much and y’all gave her a fair shake

  • @fmrgt12
    @fmrgt12 3 роки тому +5

    I used G3 while in German Military in early 1970. This rifle with open " peep sights " were extremely accurate." Fold down stock " type were issued to Parra Troopers.

  • @john88benson
    @john88benson 3 роки тому +79

    I think Uncle Roger would rate Cousin Harry's over watch a Haiyaa, but Henry's G3 run would net a Fuiyoh.

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 3 роки тому +46

    If G3s had a bolt hold open mag and a bolt release button I would never make an argument for any other .308. The looks are so spot on and evidently they are plenty accurate.

    • @rohesilmnelohe
      @rohesilmnelohe 2 роки тому +10

      Instead you get to do the amazing HK slap. And on this gun not only is it loud, you truly feel it.
      But boy was it good to shoot.

    • @sawyere2496
      @sawyere2496 2 роки тому +2

      They’re also rugged as heck, and no gas system gives you room for a cleaning kit over the barrel

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 2 роки тому +1

      They are service rifle of the last century accurate. I imagine a bolt hold open would be tricky with that massively heavy bolt.

    • @Schlabbeflicker
      @Schlabbeflicker 2 роки тому

      The thing is, it isn't even something that can't be engineered into the platform. MP5s in 40S&W and 10mm were built with LRBHO per request from the FBI. At this point, the major killing factor for the platform is weight/expense, not the inherent limitations. Many of the currently-appreciated aspects of the AR-15 were reverse-engineered in to the rifles decades later.

  • @Oivindjensen
    @Oivindjensen 3 роки тому +97

    Having carried one for a year in national service, i see G3 i press like

  • @umvhu
    @umvhu 3 роки тому +25

    Used both the FN FAL and the HK G3 in the Rhodesian bush war. G3 was lighter, shorter, softer recoil and kicked strait into the shoulder. I thought it was the better of the 2
    EDIT Contacts were almost always less than 50 yards so aiming wasn't an issue. I think our G3s were of Portuguese origin.

    • @Chris-pb3se
      @Chris-pb3se 3 роки тому +2

      Own both. Shoot both. Have for 15 years. Absolutely agree

    • @Presbiter
      @Presbiter 3 роки тому +1

      thank you for your service
      "Pugnamus Amo Leo"

    • @LokiOdinson-fz8ps
      @LokiOdinson-fz8ps 6 місяців тому

      @@Presbiter seriously???

  • @book5ter
    @book5ter 3 роки тому +127

    Now that Ian has a modernised one, he would probably agree.

    • @humansvd3269
      @humansvd3269 3 роки тому +12

      they fixed the core issues he had, which was handling.

    • @garretphegley8796
      @garretphegley8796 3 роки тому +3

      "Modernized"

    • @book5ter
      @book5ter 3 роки тому +3

      @@garretphegley8796 You must be american.

    • @garretphegley8796
      @garretphegley8796 3 роки тому +7

      @@book5ter Its the fourth of July, everyone is American.

    • @book5ter
      @book5ter 3 роки тому +2

      @@garretphegley8796 I am not.
      And i don't want to be.
      Do not push your culture onto me and keep it over yonder please.
      I am mostly fine with the culture i have.
      Thank you.

  • @urwingman0121
    @urwingman0121 3 роки тому +139

    Okay... I see that FG-42...

  • @spiv_gennedy
    @spiv_gennedy 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for not taking yourselves too seriously and having fun with it.

  • @MichaelVanHeemst
    @MichaelVanHeemst 3 роки тому +18

    Such an underrated weapon. I absolutely love mine

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 2 роки тому +1

      How is it underrated? It’s one of the most popular battle rifles ever

  • @hawgbreath
    @hawgbreath 3 роки тому +3

    Back in the early ‘80s I owned a HK 93, the non-auto version of the G3. Had to sell it during hard times though and is one regret I’ll never get over. I had mounted a Leopold scope and loved that rifle! Loved this video too👍

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 3 роки тому +31

    I love and miss this weapon. I carried its 5.4 kg for years and shot it a lot and cleaned the dirt out of her

  • @accordsamurai
    @accordsamurai 3 роки тому +1

    Love this debrief, when I bought my c308 I had to check it before I bought and did my research on two different factories made it and the one in Georgia did the best at reassembling these

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember 3 роки тому +2

    We used the G3A3 in the Greek army for almost 40 years. Last month they announced that it will be retired. Awesome gun, really sturdy and very reliable.
    Its "cousin" the HK11 is amazing as well.

  • @guspeniche
    @guspeniche 3 роки тому +6

    I was expecting a 360 no scope but okay, in all seriousness your acting skills are amazing Henry, I’m surprised you haven’t been casted as an extra for a movie or something!

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961
    @GeorgiaBoy1961 3 роки тому +4

    Great video and great shooting, too, guys. Here's the deal on the sights on the HK91/G3/PTR-91: The V-notch rear sight is designed for snap-shooting at relatively close ranges, and as you note - anytime when rapid target acquisition is paramount. Although the v-notch looks different than the 200m aperture (#2), they are both zeroed the same, to the 200m battle-sight zero used for 7.62x51 M80 Ball. That's for use inside 300m, where you switch to the "3" setting, then "4." German doctrine was that using one of these settings, plus the required hold-under or over, an infantryman could get on target against an enemy soldier at any range between 0-600m.
    When the Germans got a hold of the Spanish CETME, the precursor to the H&K G3, they did some things right in modifying that design for their use - and one of them was to improve the ghastly iron sights found on the Spanish design.
    Ken Royce, a.k.a. "Boston" of "Boston's Gun Bible" fame, has done exhaustive testing of all of the main Cold War battle rifles, as well as some designs prior to and after that. In his view, the iron sights on the G3 were a mixed bag. The front blade was easy to pick up and well-protected, but it takes a tool to adjust it and it offers only elevation adjustment and not windage. The rear sight drum, he found to be mediocre. Not securely-attached enough - only one screw - plus apertures too small, and only out to 400m. The practical combat range of the cartridge being at least twice that distance, albeit probably not with iron sights - most would use an optic. He liked the surplus Cold War-era Zeiss-Hensoldt 4x fixed power optic, however, calling it "an outstanding piece of kit" which was practically zeroed upon installation. Royce also hated the factory/OEM trigger, which comes in at about 10-12 lbs. with tons of creep and over-travel. It really impeded his performance on timed, scored testing with the rifle - but Henry, it didn't seem to hold you back. You shot very well with the PTR-91.
    Boston panned the lousy, outdated ergonomics of the rifle, and hated the charging handle location and lack of a last shot bolt hold-open, but confessed that he'd recently bought a genuine H&K 91, as his "end of the world" rifle, thanks to its unmatched toughness, durability and reliability even when abused and dirty.

  • @NKWittmann
    @NKWittmann 2 роки тому +1

    You're extremely accurate, both with the rifle and in your statements. Very well made.
    I came here looking for an explanation on why this rifle has a bad reputation and I think I finally got it !

  • @TheOrigin79
    @TheOrigin79 3 роки тому +6

    G3 was my standard rifle in the german army and i love it. I also tried the G36 and some others. But G3 is still my favorite in terms of precision (stock visor), penetration power and reliability. Also it hasnt those weird plastic mags, but solid metal parts all over the place. Just feels right...

  • @sleepy_Dragon
    @sleepy_Dragon 3 роки тому +9

    I had the G3 in Bundeswehr base training back in 2001. We were only allowed about 10 shots with real ammunition in the one range shooting we had in these two months.
    After base training we got G36.

    • @dexm2010
      @dexm2010 3 роки тому

      @ Sascha Broich Around that time, did anyone in the Bundeswehr (outside of base training) still use the G3? I heard 1997 was when G36 rifles started to come in issue, but I wonder how long it took for all of the Bundeswehr to get them?

    • @hakimcameldriver
      @hakimcameldriver 3 роки тому +2

      When i did my national service, as a panzergrenadier we got to shoot the G3 a lot, until i ended up with the Mg3. I didnot mind cleaning the gun, 1984/85 was a hell of a time to be in the Bundeswehr.

    • @sleepy_Dragon
      @sleepy_Dragon 3 роки тому +1

      @@dexm2010 That I don't know. I was with the SanÜbZentrum and we were training the medical units like KrKw-Züge (medicaid transportation units) and the doctors that had to go to Kosovo (KFOR/SFOR). And the Sani were always a special branch.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 3 роки тому +7

    The C308's that have the welded rail on the top are actually built by PTR now. The C308 actually has a PTR receivrer, PTR barrel and is assembled at the PTR factory. Century had so many issues (like you said), that they ultimately just paid PTR to take over and do it for them, and that's why the C308 is actually not bad now. It has a different rear site, and they are built out of old parts kits-- But I tend to like the C308 now. The real PTR's are much cleaner though, without a doubt.

    • @Sman7290
      @Sman7290 3 роки тому +1

      I bought one a couple years ago. It seems to work quite well. Of course, with this last stimulus check, I had to buy a Vector V93 to go with it. Thanks, Sniffer Joe.

    • @ericlee7385
      @ericlee7385 3 роки тому +1

      You are correct, the PTR reciever C308 is pretty nice. See the InRangeTV mud test.

    • @txgunguy2766
      @txgunguy2766 3 роки тому

      @@ericlee7385
      Yeah, the "crappy" C308 whooped that pants off of the "high quality" DPMS FAL. Absolutely hilarious.

    • @txgunguy2766
      @txgunguy2766 3 роки тому

      @John David Jacobs
      Mine worked perfectly after it and me got kicked around in the dirt by a bull.
      I did have to send it back to get the bent cocking tube replaced though.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 3 роки тому

      @John David Jacobs I put an after market mag release. Its like a paddle mag release, except it pivots left to right, instead of front to back like the old HK style. It's really only made for right hand shooters; but on the right side/ there's already another mag release button for left handed shooters, so it works out fine. There isn't any modifying, it just fits onto the shaft of the existing mag button and hangs down; it was like $60. Had "Texas in the name of it, I forget what its called now.

  • @trickemdickem9114
    @trickemdickem9114 3 роки тому

    This is a much better-the angle of the target camera. Really gives the viewers a idea of what it’s like to shoot this rifle. Seeing the misses from a behind the gun angle and ever so often seeing bullet trace. Good work.

  • @brazzy1467
    @brazzy1467 3 роки тому

    I have one of the PTR-91's and love it. Now a few weeks ago i got my PTR 51P PDW .308 with the stabilizing brace and I am highly impressed with the 8" barrel on it. It's now my new truck gun.

  • @JP-ec7hz
    @JP-ec7hz 3 роки тому +35

    Wow, that was impressive. The G3 ran the course. Biggest obstacle was probably that the rifle's sights were set for meters and not yards.

    • @murphy7801
      @murphy7801 2 роки тому +9

      I mean metres are the standard everywhere

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 2 роки тому +1

      Not really. The conversions are pretty easy and most of the misses were horizontal

    • @KlipsenTube
      @KlipsenTube 10 місяців тому

      Sights set for metres is not an obstacle for 95 % of Earth's inhabitants - and ~100 % of military users of the G3.

  • @johnallen7230
    @johnallen7230 3 роки тому +6

    Those sights are amazing in low light!!! I shot Expert the 1st time I picked up the G3.

  • @dexm2010
    @dexm2010 3 роки тому +1

    This was awesome to watch...and not one silly, whiny complaint about the trigger!
    For those who don't know, the "V"- Notch setting and the 200 meter setting actually have the same point of aim (although obviously, the sight pictures will look different). With proper holdover, that V-Notch sight can be used not just at 100 meters and in, but pretty easily on torso sized targets at 182 m (200 yards) or even 274 meters (300 yards), depending on how you choose to zero your rifle.

  • @DD-dn1yl
    @DD-dn1yl 2 роки тому

    You’re intros are by far the best. Keeping rocking it!

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 роки тому +27

    Is that a R34 drawing of Nino on the envelope ?
    That's a good cousin you have there Henry.

    • @sakosan547
      @sakosan547 3 роки тому +6

      How is it possible to mistake Rias Gremory for Miku???

    • @afinoxi
      @afinoxi 3 роки тому +2

      @@sakosan547 i fucking mixed up Miku and Nino lmao.
      Rias and Nino look basically the same though , I need the sauce to tell the difference. It might also be an OC.

    • @BicyclesMayUseFullLane
      @BicyclesMayUseFullLane 3 роки тому +8

      Clearly you guys have much more powerlevel than me...

    • @danendraarkananta9442
      @danendraarkananta9442 3 роки тому +1

      This is gun channel and you guys start talk about Anime what a weeb (im joining)

    • @vector4632
      @vector4632 3 роки тому +2

      I honestly think it's actually Lala Deviluke from To Love-Ru.
      ~80% sure.

  • @TheHaiko117
    @TheHaiko117 3 роки тому +21

    i watched heat yesterday for the first time and dang what a coincident

    • @jarink1
      @jarink1 3 роки тому +5

      Fun fact: the director used the actual sounds the guns made during the big downtown shooting scene since he wanted the reverberations off the buildings to be included. As a result it's one of the most accurate sounding gunfight scenes in a movie.

    • @TheHaiko117
      @TheHaiko117 3 роки тому

      @@jarink1 yeah i was wondering about that. Watched it on a big sourround setup and i thought the mixing was off because quiet scenes were very quiet in comparison to the loud scenes but no: it was just mixed realistic haha. I had to manage it myself a little bit because my girlfriend found it to be way to loud in comparison. Gotta watch it again with the boys on full blast 👍🏻

  • @MS-zb5fr
    @MS-zb5fr 3 роки тому

    This was a lot of fun to watch! Than you!

  • @davidkatz1503
    @davidkatz1503 3 роки тому

    So happy to see this video finally. Fantastic job and informative discussion)

  • @inflatablewolfie
    @inflatablewolfie 3 роки тому +9

    Well, Harry sure ain't no Henry! "No scope, no problem!"

  • @sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm
    @sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly this channel is way too good, if You tube didn't hate guns you would probably have a million subscribers.

  • @MarkAnderson-ym6xx
    @MarkAnderson-ym6xx 3 роки тому +1

    This channel just gets better and better.

  • @kentr2424
    @kentr2424 3 роки тому

    Looks like you guys had a lot of fun with this one!!!

  • @biffskeet762
    @biffskeet762 3 роки тому +13

    9 Hole Reviews, boldly going where Garand Thumb won't.

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 3 роки тому +3

      Garand Thumbs videos are funny, but the actual gun/gear content feels like groundhog day.

    • @4IN14094
      @4IN14094 3 роки тому

      @@jimyeats It takes a whole different skillset to evaluate a weapon system then just shooting with it.

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 3 роки тому +1

      @@4IN14094 I don’t disagree with you there, and I’m not saying GT’s videos aren’t accurate or have merit, I am just saying that his reviews and evaluation have become so practiced and over the top that I find them uninteresting.

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 3 роки тому +1

      @@jimyeats "the barrels really good. I‘m bros with the dudes from the company. It‘s more accurate than you are. It‘s not an Ar/is an Ar. Hit that subscribe button."

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 3 роки тому

      @@borkwoof696 Haha. Very accurate. I will say, a few of his recent videos have been a bit different and it is nice to see.

  • @scottsaylors1996
    @scottsaylors1996 3 роки тому +27

    I love the g3. In my opinion it’s superior to the fal

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 3 роки тому +4

      I’ve fired both and prefer the G3 too . I found it more accurate. The recoil more muted .

    • @actually_a_circle
      @actually_a_circle 3 роки тому +2

      A true believer

  • @bobkare1015
    @bobkare1015 3 роки тому +1

    Great review. I remember my AG3 from the Norwegian Army in 19991. We did a lot of target practice on 200-300m (220-330y). And of course, we had to take it apart and together again with mittens. It is a lot of cold weather and snow in Norway. The G3 is easy to shoot with, even for people with little to no experience.

  • @jubuttib
    @jubuttib 3 роки тому +1

    Cousin Harry! So nice to see you again!

  • @msantifort
    @msantifort 3 роки тому +3

    Finally the PTR 91. Been waiting along time for the light barreled model. Good shooting. I love my PTR's. It shoots 1.5 to 2 moa all day long. With a scope (primary arms 5x acss) it hits targets to 600yds. Good enough. Use malaysian 308.

  • @gurugoguzhanson
    @gurugoguzhanson 3 роки тому +5

    1:06 "I dont want to use my scope" 😂
    and then
    3:08 "Aii yaaa" 😅
    I got a friend that would say stuff like this.

  • @geoffreygrant6833
    @geoffreygrant6833 3 роки тому +1

    Loved it legis Henry may be the best shot with irons on UA-cam.. mad props to you Henry your both amazingly skilled shooters

  • @christopher2215
    @christopher2215 3 роки тому

    I've loved this rifle for a long time, thanks gents for taking it through this course of fire.

  • @litalai
    @litalai 3 роки тому +3

    amazing intro scene.... that is oscar worthy.

  • @Murphy82nd
    @Murphy82nd 3 роки тому +8

    I love MEN ammo. The warning on the boxes I have reads, “Keep out of reach of children and incompetent people.”

  • @ericmyrs
    @ericmyrs 3 роки тому +1

    I shot a AG3 as a conscript in 2007. As a REMF with extremely limited combat training and range time, I still was comfortable shooting and maintaining this magnificent thing. Easy to maintain, easy to shoot. 10/10 would outfit a conscript army with this again.

  • @gutyourtrust
    @gutyourtrust 3 роки тому

    Amazing video . Just got one from PTR with the top rail, and hearing you cite that specifically made me feel good about the aesthetic compromise

  • @InfinitumDiver
    @InfinitumDiver 3 роки тому +8

    I have a Spuhr stock if you guys want to do a comparison to the regular stock. The prices have gone up quite a bit since I got mine so, I figured I'd offer mine up if you are interested.

  • @slc9670
    @slc9670 3 роки тому +6

    My brother was -among other things- a sniper in the German KSK in the 90s, and he used a standard issue G3 without scopes. They did training exercises called "tea bag shooting" (Teebeutelschießen) where they would actually shoot a hanging tea bag at an 800m (meters) distance. I was in one of the last mandatory drafts from the cold war era in Germany and was issued a G3 myself (it was an old beater from the 60s though). Memories. Cheers! ;-)

  • @michaelsullivan4624
    @michaelsullivan4624 3 роки тому

    thanks for the thoughtful and fair g3 review

  • @rangerdanger766
    @rangerdanger766 2 роки тому

    great opening, very professional. my old eyes maxed out at 300 with irons. glad I bought the GI rail model

  • @akacurmurdar1
    @akacurmurdar1 3 роки тому +6

    9-Hole cinematic universe vs Garand Thumb cinematic universe, let them fight.

  • @dylanhealy8126
    @dylanhealy8126 3 роки тому +3

    That fumble with the scope, all to real when you’re under pressure lol

  • @DAP-1776
    @DAP-1776 3 роки тому

    This was quality. Great stuff guys.

  • @lenoxchew4732
    @lenoxchew4732 3 роки тому

    These are awesome videos. I learn so much each time.

  • @Scott-qq9jd
    @Scott-qq9jd 3 роки тому +5

    Whoa, I haven't seen that picture of the soldier with the chopped G3 in Iraq since 2006. Pretty sure it was in an issue of Guns and Ammo about a gun writer who was an imbedded reporter over there and they were having him ID the stuff they were bringing in.

  • @matthaught4707
    @matthaught4707 3 роки тому +6

    Everyone's loving Heat lately, as well they should.
    That said, that Russkie-contract 1895 lying on the table intrigues me.

  • @biagiocozza8875
    @biagiocozza8875 3 роки тому

    Love the PTR-91, awesome rifle, and fantastic accuracy. Great shooting.

  • @SuperScopeDog
    @SuperScopeDog 3 роки тому +1

    Nice, a gun I actually own. I swaped the green furniture with original german wood. Absolute pleasure to shoot.

  • @lunchpin403
    @lunchpin403 3 роки тому +3

    These sketches are amazing

  • @Britva83
    @Britva83 3 роки тому +4

    I’m running the Ak-5C in the Swedish National Guard. The rifle is loved for it’s relative precision and reliability, but it’s hated because it’s heavy and cumbersome. It eventually wears down even the strongest soldier. The Swedish Armed Forces put the Aimpoint red dot on all the rifles because of state corruption. The iron sights were satisfactory.

  • @MRChippyist
    @MRChippyist 3 роки тому +2

    The Gun-Tuber Verse is really coming along. So excited to have you on TF69!

  • @jbento1975
    @jbento1975 2 роки тому

    It was my service weapon and I loved it. This sent me back a few years...

  • @TheWilferch
    @TheWilferch 3 роки тому +10

    PTR....made right down the street from me........

    • @luisnunes2010
      @luisnunes2010 3 роки тому +2

      Better the tooling be put to good use than left to rot by the portuguese government. Much that it hurts to say it.

    • @NCrdwlf
      @NCrdwlf 3 роки тому

      My 32 is an excellent rifle , can’t wait to move out of MD so I can get a 91 .

  • @ryszardkoprowski1414
    @ryszardkoprowski1414 3 роки тому +8

    Why, actually, Henry did not starr in "Heat" movie??? That would have been shootout scene!! Epic!

  • @whosscruffylookin95
    @whosscruffylookin95 3 роки тому

    came home from my LGS after picking up a PTR to see this video had been uploaded. zero regrets.

  • @v4pilot331
    @v4pilot331 3 роки тому

    Those Hensoldt Z-24 claw mount scopes are no joke!!! You flipped the lens covers inside out like they are supposed to be during use... well done.