For a modern watch if it is a flat rate fee from the manufacturer (like Omega) you may as well wear it till you notice problems. If it is a vintage watch or you use an independent watchmaker more regular services (5,7 or 10 years depending on the watch) should preserve the original parts and keep the service costs down. I am told modern lubricants last longer but eventually will evaporate leaving no residue but also no protection for moving parts. Lastly if you want to preserve original parts make sure you tell the watchmaker. A standard service may include a new crown and hands for example. You should also ask for any old parts back and keep them. A manufacturers service will also remove scratches / make the watch like new so again on a vintage watch you might prefer sympathetic or no polishing...be clear what you want and tell them. Make sure you take lots of photos before you send it in as a record of condition. This is a good topic to raise / thanks for the vid :0)
My Speedmaster (caliber 1151) just had its first service in 18 years, suffice to say I got every penny’s worth of the $750.00 that I spent with Omega for their standard complete service.
Very sensible advice. My GMTII is at 30 years no service still working as when new.( really now would be the time to service.) But remember with Rolex service you pay the same no matter what they do to the watch at service. Also more modern oils are less likely to dry out. So if you have a watch that gains as its normal rate and then you find it looses, time for a service..
Hi TGV, I follow your videos since a year and it has been so entertaining. Today i'm turning 18 and i received my first high end watch : longines hydroconquest. Thanks to you i managed to appreciate my seiko, pulsar or timex as much as any watches. Thank you for what you've done. And hello from France btw.
If a "perpetual calendar" watch can't at least make it through a whole leap-year cycle (4 years) without needing servicing, then the perpetual calendar is really an illusion.
I was looking at a 200k Patek while in Italy that had a perpetual calendar that counted for leap years and was supposed to stay on track for like 200-300 years. I was thinking what the fuck good is that. Number one I won't live that long. Number two the watch will need servicing every handful of years and have to be reset anyways.
@@MrLeSa95 I wouldn't call it marketing, it's more of a theoretical showcase of the capabilities of the watch. It COULD run that long, we invested capital and labour into figuring out how to do it, therefore it's worth the extra money.
@@MrC4ctu5 But you still have to send it to servicing which does not make any sense. Annual calendars have a better functionality than perpetual calendars.
@@気が読めない子 it's not about functionality. It's about the art of watchmaking. Tourbillon is both useless and pointless in a wristwatch. But its a piece of art.
I had recently acquired a 1988 Tudor Prince Oysterdate from a collector. The watch had spent the majority of its life in a bank vault, and, as such, it was essentially a NOS unit with box and papers too. I took it with me on a four-week vacation and it performed flawlessly. It gained 9.6 s/d consistently over 25 days. As this watch is still running good and that It is in my rotation for only about 30 days out of a year, I have no plans to get it serviced in the near future.
100 % agree with your recommendations here and specifically in my case i own 4 luxury pieces which I only wear on weekends and I alternate them so i think in that case close to 10 year intervals is appropiate
I'm not sure if that's a good idea. If it's a modern watch with synthetic oil and grease, the oil will evaporate even if you never run the watch. After a few years you'll be running the watch with no lubrication. If you own watches that are worth real money, it's worth talking to your watchmaker and listening to their advice.
Nice one, my friend! Congrats for the new partnership with WatchBox! I follow you for 03 years now and I’m really glad seeing you, me and others in our group having their work recognized and growing professionally!!! Greetings from the depths of Brazilian Amazon!!!
Thank you Anastase, it takes a real gent to post a comment like that. Very cool to hear from where you are posting a comment from, Gentry in the Amazon!!! VERY cool indeed. Best regards, TGV
I'm wearing my SKX013, which I learned about from the Urban Gentry channel and which I bought, at TGV's recommendation, from Long Island Watches (great service!). I love my little SKX, but the Panther Cub is so freakin' cool! I can't stand how cool it is really.
Hi TGV HOW ARE YOU? I am 13 and just got into watches and have 7 watches,I recently bought a automatic vintage watch,it was a country collection of Marlboro ( the cigarette brand) it was out in 2006 but the guy I bought from had very little information about watches ,so I got it on a. Big bargain,for 12 dollars , and it has a leather strap and a miyota movement,lucky me
Nothing Nothing I’d be careful with vintage automatics - if you don’t know it’s service history, you could rapidly end up with an expensive servicing bill on your hands pretty quick. Also if you don’t have a lot of money to throw around, I’d keep a max of 2 mechanicals in your collection - if you want another you either flip or gift an old one,
Terrific advice ! I I got my first nice watch in the late sixties a non- hacking Rolex explorer, well I let it go from 1969 to 1981 seemed fine , just shows what a callow fellow I was ! I got water and moisture in it sent it to Rolex New York they did a marvelous job on it and even sent a green Rolex billfold to me. I felt like a very special guy when I got it back for a little while at least.
Thank you Kirk, glad you got your Explorer back to its former glory, my fave watch!!! You are a man of style and good taste obviously, Best regards, TGV
Great video, just put my omega in for a service, been years since, fortunately not a automatic, but this & one other needs to be done, great advice thank you
If purchased within the last 15 years then the watch’s oil are synthetic meaning it doesn’t gunk up, less evaporation than mineral oils, and do not degrade like mineral oils. Also if your watch is part of a larger rotation then it will need much less service than a single use watch. Have your watch maker check the amplitude every few years and if it’s between 250-315 you are good and no need to service. Unnecessary service may introduce issues that the watch never had so limit intervention only when needed.
@@Mububban23 the variability of time displacement. In other words it’s the measurement of how fast or how slow the watch is keeping time in relation to real real time. If the watch beats two seconds per day faster than real time then it has an amplitude of two seconds per day.
That's the awesome thing about Seiko. The movements run for literally a century. And if the time has come, you get yourself a brandnew NH36A for 27$ from ebay and build it in yourself 💪🙏
Good stuff! I also really like the duration! 7-10 minutes is ideal. When the duration goes up to 25+ minutes I am reluctant to start. Keep 'em short and keep 'em coming!
I agree with your point about not leaving a watch on a winder, although the Seiko 5 with 7S26 movement is said to have a "clutch" that disengages the winding. The clutch is probably for those days when you are 'over-active' so the spring stops winding when sufficiently done. I still think you should let the watch operate normally when you think it's been wound enough since a spring works best when it's allowed to tense AND release. You may even damage that "magic lever" in the works by stressing it too much.
My Swatch certified watchmaker simply said never place a watch in a winder. He basically stated this is like placing a car on a dyno machine with a never ending flow of fuel. Parts will prematurely wear out. Also the watch industry has introduced new lubricants in the last decade. These lubricants last longer than previously.
Which is why I’ll send my Omega to the them for service/repairs. Speaking from experience, as I work for a high end auto dealer, in the service department, there is nothing better than genuine parts, installed by trained professionals. Thank you for the video TGV. Congratulations!!!
I recently inherited a Datejust from my grandpa he bought back in the 60s. Should I get it through overhaul? Or should I keep it as a vintage. I am just afraid that changing parts would devalue the fact that everything is original from the 60s.
Hey Mr. T, Congratulations on your move to the city of love and your place within the watchbox family! I'd like to ask, if you are going to review the rolex oyster perpetual someday in the future? I'm considering buying it and would love to have your opinion on it. Best regards!
Thanks for this video, TGV! You answered a lot of my questions about watch servicing. One question, would ease of servicing be a factor you’d consider in choosing between two watches? I’m trying to choose between the Tudor Black Bay 41, which has an ETA based movement, and the BB 58, which has an in-house movement. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I had a Seiko 5 that I purchased for £50, it required a service/regulation Seiko quoted just shy of £100. I kept it in my collection due to sentimental value and may one day had it serviced. I think factoring in services costs when purchasing is so very important. My ‘pinnacle piece’ has a 5 year warranty, it could go 10 years before a service. It did however cost quite a bit more than my Seiko lol
If you want to keep it as a functional sentimental piece without the upkeep costs, there's always the option of putting a quartz movement inside. People look down on quartz a lot, but considering how damn expensive servicing automatics is I have a newfound respect for them.
Terry Tibbs Yeah no worries man, and if you want to add a further layer of lubricant then you can nut in the case and give the watch a good shake. it should crank right up.
Surprisingly, my Seiko with a 4R36 took a couple of months to get parts to my watchmaker. I wait until I see a change in accuracy unless I am going diving. Water resistance gets checked yearly if I am diving. Salt water in watches is worth avoiding!😱
Jeffery Neu , thank you. For any watch that you want to keep or want to be sure stays running, I think a yearly test is a good idea. A friend of mine who surfs just buys an inexpensive battery watch that he can discard when the seals give out or the battery dies. I also think that it’s a good idea to not go much further than 5 years before replacing the gaskets. I have a watch I really loved that was older and that I exposed to water after the seals had dried out. Fogged up inside. Fortunately, Seiko were able to repair the movement and replace the gaskets. I no longer plan to expose a watch to water unless it’s a specific watch I use for that purpose or can sacrifice. Thanks for the diver perspective.
Really well explained, even though I’ve been into watches for a long time I always find some things to learn from your videos. I’d love to see another signet ring video in the future, still hoping for that to happen. :) Greetings from the German Gentry.
Maybe another interesting topic: when is a watch worth servicing? Price point is the main thing here obviously, but it's also highly dependent on the type of movement. See e.g. the Speedy reduced.
Well it all depends. If you get let's say an entry level Seiko, Orient or Citizen you can easily just get yourself a new watch once the old one dies as most of the time it is not worth servicing a watch that costs little over 150 dollars. On the other hand, that 150 dollars Seiko 5 might be a gift from someone who's important to you and you don't care spending the half or the price of a watch for a service once every 5 years. I have a Seiko 5 that I got as a b-day present from my wife 4 years ago and despite it being the most affordable watch in my collection I love it the most and I will service until the end of my life because it has sentimental value to me.
In the old days, watches were meant to be serviced once a year. This was when cases were 'dustproof', not waterproof/water resistant, so dirt gets in where the crown meets the case. I have several vintage watches from the 40s-60s and I can see a trail of dirt leading from the crown into the movement! Also, that was when people wore the same watch every day. I only wear a given vintage watch once or twice a week at most so I don't have to worry as much about dirt getting in. Even so, I keep track of the watch's performance and if it starts to gain/lose time, then I know it's time for a cleaning. These newer watches with nice, waterproof cases are going to be far cleaner inside, that's why they can go years or decades without servicing.
So, my 'take-away' from this is, *own as many watches as you can!* That way, you save 'wear n tear,' instances of needing service, and thusly money... right? 😆
Hey TGV, I think it would be interesting to do a video on how to choose a watch band. Color, texture, style...what characteristics of the watch to observe and match a band to. Most none creative people out there have a hard time with this topic and end up settling with black or brown bands. As s designer I can send you some points to focus on but you no doubt have the eye for color matching. Keep up the cool work.
Just serviced my Big Pilot and a crystal replacement at $900 by IWC. The watch comes back absolutely perfect. Was worried with WR as I do tend to sweat a bit more. Other than that it went 10 years from new before I decided it was time so having skipped one normal interval of 5 years it’s really was quite reasonable to keep a $14,000 watch in pristine condition.
All seasons in one week you say. Pffft,,, here in Melbourne Australia, we're renowned for having four seasons in one day. Dress in layers and always carry an umbrella :-)
I typically wait until there are obvious signs that it needs serviced. I’ve always done this and have never had a watch maker tell me that parts had been worn down so badly that they needed replaced. At least major parts that would make a big difference in what you pay for the servicing.
Very interesting question. I bought an SKX back in February and when I think about the day when it needs a service, it might be best to make a movement swap at a local watch maker instead of sending it to an AD for a service, as the service price is almost as high as the price of the watch.
Hmmm, interesting point. I have a suggestion, how about upgrade the movement while you are at it, like I did with my SKX? Have a look at my recent Seiko video, my now is hackable and has manual wind. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@@theurbangentry that's definitely an option I'll be looking into! But I hope the watch won't be in need of a service for many years! Maybe by then Seiko releases an updated SKX I can buy ;) but I have to say, it's kinda hard to justify spending so much time and money on this hobby, when there are so many fantastic watches by timex or a Casio duro for the fraction of the price that can be easily replaced if something breaks. No service or worries required.
Your comment about Omega is interesting. I got a 45,5mm Planet Ocean 7 years ago and put it in for service last week. I won’t get this watch back for 6 weeks, here in Singapore. I thought that was a little long... especially as the service cost will be at least 500 usd...
Great video as always Tristano! I can really see your passion for watches and see you enjoy making these videos. COuld you please make some more videos on Tag Hueur? I just bought a Formula 1 and would like to see you review one.
Makes the case to keep using my seiko for daily and keep the Rolex for the weekend and special occasions. I do love the SKX. When it needs services I will buy a $30 NH36 and just drop it in. Maybe i do need a time grapher...
Just about to attempt my first SKX mod. This journey of mine began when I accidentally stumbled upon your channel and what a journey. Hope you managed to keep Hugo's litter box at bay! 😀
Oils stop being lubricants and turn into abrasives, so running a watch that should have been serviced years ago can cause rapid wear. Usually it's balance jewels that wear fastest, and that is actually good, because they are easiest to replace, but still that costs much more already. Wear on winding stem bearings can be even impossible to repair, because they are in the mainplate. The watch may seemingly work fine although it is not properly lubricated anymore, so don't trust that you notice a performance drop when it's time for service.
This makes sense for more complex/complicated watches, but I seriously wouldn't send in a Rolex or Omega until something actually stopped working. They have flat rates for servicing which includes any necessary part replacements. I'd say the same for any maker that charges a flat rate like that. New JLC watches will have an 8 year warranty so you know they have to be designed not to need servicing before that point. I wouldn't even bother having any watch under $500 serviced unless it was a quartz and just needed a new battery and gaskets.
I wear em till they drop... I had cheap watches back in day and just threw em away at that point. had exactly one mid/high end watch die... 12 years old had it fixed and serviced at the same time. only a bit more expense than a service. I think the new oils and how much better watches are sealed now makes servicing not quite as impportant.
@@MaurizioOiziruam Depends on which model - the Seiko 5 range is pretty diverse but the bare minimum is about as much as buying the base SNK model. It's usually cheaper to just buy a new movement and replace the one inside.
Dont listen to all the trolls on watchbox, who would have thought people watching $50,000 watch reviews would spend so much time complaining and trolling like children .
I'm always amazed by the comments on there. Paralegals and Assistant Managers of UPS stores thumbing down their noses at anything that's not $20K plus, and talking about TGV being "eaten alive" by watch box. What a bunch of pillocks.
Tristan Pouw , i disagree though. Those guys arnt pulling down a serious salary showcasing watches on youtube, they are just buyers traders and sellers. They arnt like the Hodinkee people that have a few million in a collection. Futhermore if Tgv brings eyes to the channel , which he will , those people are guys with a seiko or sinn or oris or a cheaper breitling or even a seamaster, which was my entry into the next level. Everyone had an entry level at some point.
Good advise! There are no rules, only signs that a watch needs service. One thing that bears mentioning is that many pre-owned watch sellers will "inspect", but not service a watch before they sell it. Always assume you will need to service a pre-owned watch and price it accordingly.
Looking sharp, TGV. Meant to comment on your last vid (Sub 16613) and your swagger when you hit the street. Gentry should have some swagger. One dilemma when in Metropolis's like LA and NYC, so many choices on where to service. Quite a few so called trusted watchmakers in the jewelry zone quoting me $400 on my Speedo MOTM, whereas Omega and flagship lux watch dealers with in house watchmakers want $800 plus, if no parts are needed. Bev Hills has an Omega service center, obviously too high. Best Regards, JPD
Thank you so much JP, the more you talk of LA, the more curious about it I become. I really hope to make it out there one day and finally shake your hand. Hopefully in the next few years I can make that happen. I have to say, $400 for the Speedy is not too bad, considering a full service on a less complicated ETA cost me about $250. Hmmm, $800 is steep indeed, I wonder if it is just because it is that location? Oh well, have a great Memorial Day weekend, Best regards, TGV
I just open the case back when it's not quite running as well anymore and pour in a few drops of olive oil. Close it back up and shake it for 5 minutes to get it all in there. Job done. :P
I just found your channel and I truly enjoy the videos that at this point I have been able to watch. I have question that is closely related to this video. When it comes to servicing, repairing and even restoring watches, what do you recommend when looking for and selecting the best person/place to have a watch worked on? I have an old Mortima Oval Pepsi Diver's watch I that needs much work.
Hi, I have recently fallen into the wormhole of Horology and watchmaking in particular. As a Luthier I suppose it's a natural progression. I was wondering,,, For the last 3 months I have been regulating my Seiko 6R15 movement. I've had it down to 5s per day at one point. So i was wondering just how many other people regulate their own timepieces? and please if you have any experience then leave some tips ;-)
Hello TGV, hope you are keeping safe with all this Covid stuff going on. Wanted to ask you, what do you think about the Omega Seamaster professional 300m (2018 model)?
I did something like that a long time ago, but deffo due for an update. Would this be a live show idea? I will see what I can do. Thank you sir, Best regards, TGV
I have a watch that I think is probably almost 100 years old. Don't know if it's ever been serviced but it still works (winding watch). Should I get it serviced and where?
Would you be able to do a video on Tag-Heuer again TGV? Perhaps their Formula 1 range? I love my F1 chronograph in blue. I remember your reply to a comment on one of your videos before Christmas when you spoke about their racing watches being so historic and you offered your congratulations on my purchase 👍 I think for my 40th in 5 years, I’d like the Omega Planet Ocean in the orange and black. My favourite watch which is well beyond me at the moment is the Rolex Hulk.
Hi TGV, So basically, is it safe to assume that "if it's not broken, don't fix it?" Do you have any independent non-boutique watch service center around NYC besides Saltzman? Just for basic servicing, ie. regulating and cleaning/lubing.
Thank you, that really depends on the movement, the amount of work, what parts need to be replaced. So no easy answers I am sorry to say, but send it in to your watchmaker and get a quote, that would be the best way. Best regards, TGV
Nosuchvideos, I’ve had two manual-wind vintage watches overhauled by a local experienced watchmaker, and one recent autowinder. The manuals were $180 each and the auto was around $200 and included some repair. By comparison I sent a Swiss 6798 movement with a friend to Puebla, Mexico. It needed work on the balance spring as well as an overhaul. Her father, who lives there, found a repair shop he trusted and made sure they did not know a Yankee Imperialist owned it. That was $65. I’ve been meaning to take it to my local fellow and see what he thought of the work. Two of the best watchmakers near me started their work in their youth in Mexico. I live in Houston, Texas where the cost of living is still reasonable compared to the other coasts.
@@markcoveryourassets The problem with having your watch serviced is that it's easy to do a half-assed job and the watch will be running properly when returned to the customer. These days, it's best to use the expensive synthetic oils and grease, but a shop could be using the cheap stuff and you wouldn't know the difference, at least not at first. It's the expensive oil that allows years between servicing so be careful, you may be getting what you pay for.
The watch itself will survival basically anything, but I've found the rubber casing on old g-shocks tend to get gooey and nasty after a decade or so, and has to be taken off. The watch is still functional, but much smaller and less stylish, also the miniature spring bars are 16mm, so they only take *tiny* straps. If you can get yourself a nato strap adapter, you can bump the strap size back up, but getting a new rubber shell and strap costs about as much as buying a new G-shock lol. Of course, none of this applies if you get the metal G-shocks.
Was wondering if you could could give your opinion on the Seiko SSC295P1? I have no idea why but I love this watch. Was wondering your take on it before I buy one. There are several in the SSC line of watches. Not exactly sure what all the differences are.
Hello TGV. I'm a first time writer. I just purchased one of the newer models of seiko5 (seiko srpe 61) with a 4R36 movement in it. Today I watched a video on youtube which claimed that Seiko watches are disposable, because the cost of serviceing it by Seiko corporation itself, in every 3 to 5 years, is basically 2/3 of the price of a new one, or even sometimes the cost of service is more than the cost of a new Seiko 5 watch. Watching that video made me doubt my choice in my recent purchase, and although I love the watch, it upsets me. So, I wanted to know your opinion on this matter? Do you really think a Seiko 5 is a disposable watch? Is there any more affordable way to service them to justify the price a d cost? Thank you for your great channel and videos. Regards, Aria.
Hi TGV, I’m intending to buy a Muhle Glashutte Terrasport on a trip to Germany. Basic model, just date being the only complication. I’ve heard their watches are quite robust, and i intend to use it only on the weekends in rotation with my seiko 5. How often do you think i’ll need to service it ? I live in Brazil, so that’s something to consider. Thanks a lot ! Love the channel !
Hi, Mühle recommends service after 5 years. But that is not necessary at all. The movement in that watch is based on a Sellita SW100-1 (Swiss ETA equivalent) - one of the most reliable movements in the industry and legendary. Best: Every Brazilian local watchmaker will be able to service it! But you might not need to service it for more than 20 years :)
Can you do a video about why and how different movements, eta or in house, why you say, this is a good movement, what makes it a good movement and what are the different types and categories of the mechanical/automatic movements. I’ve been looking for a video on this but all I can find is just videos on the difference between quartz and mechanical/automatic movements... which is not what I’m looking for. I really like your channel and your videos are very informative and entertaining. Really wish you could make a video about how and what makes a good movement and how to identify it. Thanks. T. And sorry if you’ve already made a video about that and I’ve not searched properly.
Here's my basic rule of watch servicing. Is it running bad? Low power reserve, bad timekeeping? Send it in for a full service Is it suddenly running bad? Get it demagnetized yourself or ask a watchmaker specifically for demagnetization. Are you diving a lot in saltwater? First off all, after every dive, rinse it off with tap water to get the salt out of there to prolong the life of the gaskets. Also get it "water-serviced" every year or two. Here in Sweden at least you can ask the watch maker for such a service and all he will do is open it up, clean the area where the gaskets are, replace all of them and test the watch's water resistance. Usually around 100 dollars instead of a full service. Really worth it. Work with your watchmaker and try to get a good one that won't try to get you to purchase a full service each time when your watch only really needs to be demagnetized or get its gaskets replaced.
Depending on watch movement and use..follow proper servicing pays of in a long run... My Breitling Chronomat Valjux Movement last Service was from 2004 and serviced it last year payed $1000 to Breitling and follow my regular maintenance which is $300 this is CAD dollar im speaking about.. Cheers
I service all my Rolex every year. Just pop off the case back and drop the watch into methylated spirit let it dry for a few seconds and then if running slowly give it a quick blast of WD40 if running too quickly just give it a spray of well used engine oil that will def slow it down. After 30 years of doing this my watches show no corrosion at all they don’t tell the time anymore but do still look great on the wrist.
Hi urban gentry. Should we still buy ETA movement powered watches in 2019. This question is not about the exclusivity of in house movement, but I am worry about future serviceability and parts availability. For example, I purchase a Tudor black bay 36/41 in 2019. Maybe after 10years there is some wear and tear parts need to be replace. Is those ETA movement received sellita’s parts as a alternative? And is those sellita’s parts compatible with ETA movement ?
Hi TGV. Good topic. I have jus got my seamaster from the 70's by an Omega authorised repairer. It was working well anyway but had been unused for the last 20 years. I don't think it was ever serviced. I can feel the difference especially when handwinding it. Some parts had to be changed and were sourced from omega. Also the crown was changed which left me wondering about the value of watch...Is that ok? What do you think? One positive thing is that the repairer also gave me the old parts.
For a modern watch if it is a flat rate fee from the manufacturer (like Omega) you may as well wear it till you notice problems. If it is a vintage watch or you use an independent watchmaker more regular services (5,7 or 10 years depending on the watch) should preserve the original parts and keep the service costs down. I am told modern lubricants last longer but eventually will evaporate leaving no residue but also no protection for moving parts. Lastly if you want to preserve original parts make sure you tell the watchmaker. A standard service may include a new crown and hands for example. You should also ask for any old parts back and keep them. A manufacturers service will also remove scratches / make the watch like new so again on a vintage watch you might prefer sympathetic or no polishing...be clear what you want and tell them. Make sure you take lots of photos before you send it in as a record of condition. This is a good topic to raise / thanks for the vid :0)
Why should I keep the old parts?
My Speedmaster (caliber 1151) just had its first service in 18 years, suffice to say I got every penny’s worth of the $750.00 that I spent with Omega for their standard complete service.
1 year ago I'd have never guessed that I be into watches. I'm still fascinated by a pure mechanical device in this digital age.
Very sensible advice. My GMTII is at 30 years no service still working as when new.( really now would be the time to service.) But remember with Rolex service you pay the same no matter what they do to the watch at service.
Also more modern oils are less likely to dry out.
So if you have a watch that gains as its normal rate and then you find it looses, time for a service..
Hi TGV, I follow your videos since a year and it has been so entertaining. Today i'm turning 18 and i received my first high end watch : longines hydroconquest. Thanks to you i managed to appreciate my seiko, pulsar or timex as much as any watches. Thank you for what you've done. And hello from France btw.
If a "perpetual calendar" watch can't at least make it through a whole leap-year cycle (4 years) without needing servicing, then the perpetual calendar is really an illusion.
I was looking at a 200k Patek while in Italy that had a perpetual calendar that counted for leap years and was supposed to stay on track for like 200-300 years. I was thinking what the fuck good is that. Number one I won't live that long. Number two the watch will need servicing every handful of years and have to be reset anyways.
@@219garry it because they want to say "look our calendar shit will work for 200 years" its marketing...
@@MrLeSa95 I wouldn't call it marketing, it's more of a theoretical showcase of the capabilities of the watch. It COULD run that long, we invested capital and labour into figuring out how to do it, therefore it's worth the extra money.
@@MrC4ctu5 But you still have to send it to servicing which does not make any sense. Annual calendars have a better functionality than perpetual calendars.
@@気が読めない子 it's not about functionality. It's about the art of watchmaking. Tourbillon is both useless and pointless in a wristwatch. But its a piece of art.
Loving the frequency of uploads! Giving me much to watch this summer break from university!
I had recently acquired a 1988 Tudor Prince Oysterdate from a collector. The watch had spent the majority of its life in a bank vault, and, as such, it was essentially a NOS unit with box and papers too. I took it with me on a four-week vacation and it performed flawlessly. It gained 9.6 s/d consistently over 25 days. As this watch is still running good and that It is in my rotation for only about 30 days out of a year, I have no plans to get it serviced in the near future.
100 % agree with your recommendations here and specifically in my case i own 4 luxury pieces which I only wear on weekends and I alternate them so i think in that case close to 10 year intervals is appropiate
Mario!!!!
Wonderful to hear from you after all this time.
I hope all is well, thank you my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
I'm not sure if that's a good idea. If it's a modern watch with synthetic oil and grease, the oil will evaporate even if you never run the watch. After a few years you'll be running the watch with no lubrication. If you own watches that are worth real money, it's worth talking to your watchmaker and listening to their advice.
@@benjaminbarrera214 modern lubricants last 7-10 years.
Cracking info for the enthusiasts. This is turning out to be an excellent serie for the channel. Keep up the good work 👍.
Regards,
Koen
I just got my pendulum clock serviced after it been in my family for 30 years, and it just stopped working.
Hopefully a clock maker can repair your family heirloom👸⌚
My family has one that has been running since 1946 and has not been serviced. It's running fine
Nice one, my friend! Congrats for the new partnership with WatchBox! I follow you for 03 years now and I’m really glad seeing you, me and others in our group having their work recognized and growing professionally!!! Greetings from the depths of Brazilian Amazon!!!
Thank you Anastase, it takes a real gent to post a comment like that. Very cool to hear from where you are posting a comment from, Gentry in the Amazon!!! VERY cool indeed.
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TGV
I'm wearing my SKX013, which I learned about from the Urban Gentry channel and which I bought, at TGV's recommendation, from Long Island Watches (great service!). I love my little SKX, but the Panther Cub is so freakin' cool! I can't stand how cool it is really.
Hi TGV HOW ARE YOU? I am 13 and just got into watches and have 7 watches,I recently bought a automatic vintage watch,it was a country collection of Marlboro ( the cigarette brand) it was out in 2006 but the guy I bought from had very little information about watches ,so I got it on a. Big bargain,for 12 dollars , and it has a leather strap and a miyota movement,lucky me
Nothing Nothing I’d be careful with vintage automatics - if you don’t know it’s service history, you could rapidly end up with an expensive servicing bill on your hands pretty quick.
Also if you don’t have a lot of money to throw around, I’d keep a max of 2 mechanicals in your collection - if you want another you either flip or gift an old one,
Terrific advice ! I I got my first nice watch in the late sixties a non- hacking Rolex explorer, well I let it go from 1969 to 1981 seemed fine , just shows what a callow fellow I was ! I got water and moisture in it sent it to Rolex New York they did a marvelous job on it and even sent a green Rolex billfold to me. I felt like a very special guy when I got it back for a little while at least.
Thank you Kirk, glad you got your Explorer back to its former glory, my fave watch!!!
You are a man of style and good taste obviously,
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TGV
Great video, just put my omega in for a service, been years since, fortunately not a automatic, but this & one other needs to be done, great advice thank you
If purchased within the last 15 years then the watch’s oil are synthetic meaning it doesn’t gunk up, less evaporation than mineral oils, and do not degrade like mineral oils. Also if your watch is part of a larger rotation then it will need much less service than a single use watch. Have your watch maker check the amplitude every few years and if it’s between 250-315 you are good and no need to service. Unnecessary service may introduce issues that the watch never had so limit intervention only when needed.
This is different and very practical format. Looking forward for more of these, TGV.
When it starts keeping shit time! If it keeps great time just keep on wearing and enjoying it
@@MadMan-cp6tn I'm new to watches, what does amplitude refer to?
@@MadMan-cp6tn but it will still keep time? Will the amplitude problem cause something like gears to wear away?
@@Mububban23 the variability of time displacement. In other words it’s the measurement of how fast or how slow the watch is keeping time in relation to real real time. If the watch beats two seconds per day faster than real time then it has an amplitude of two seconds per day.
That's the awesome thing about Seiko. The movements run for literally a century. And if the time has come, you get yourself a brandnew NH36A for 27$ from ebay and build it in yourself 💪🙏
Good stuff! I also really like the duration! 7-10 minutes is ideal. When the duration goes up to 25+ minutes I am reluctant to start. Keep 'em short and keep 'em coming!
Here's the thing... with a vintage watch, I'd be worried about the repair shop doing more harm than good with a routine maintenance.
I agree with your point about not leaving a watch on a winder, although the Seiko 5 with 7S26 movement is said to have a "clutch" that disengages the winding. The clutch is probably for those days when you are 'over-active' so the spring stops winding when sufficiently done. I still think you should let the watch operate normally when you think it's been wound enough since a spring works best when it's allowed to tense AND release. You may even damage that "magic lever" in the works by stressing it too much.
My Swatch certified watchmaker simply said never place a watch in a winder. He basically stated this is like placing a car on a dyno machine with a never ending flow of fuel. Parts will prematurely wear out. Also the watch industry has introduced new lubricants in the last decade. These lubricants last longer than previously.
When are you going to have a collab video with Federico Talk Watches? We missed him in this channel.
Which is why I’ll send my Omega to the them for service/repairs. Speaking from experience, as I work for a high end auto dealer, in the service department, there is nothing better than genuine parts, installed by trained professionals. Thank you for the video TGV. Congratulations!!!
Well said indeed sir!
Thank you Rudy,
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TGV
Nice video :D i’ve made same type video today in Italy ;)
Fantastic! Buona fortuna with your video. Like the saying goes, great minds think alike ;-)
Grazie MM,
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LOL, no, it takes 3 days to prepare, shoot, edit and publish even a short episode like this!
Great minds like I said! Grazie.
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TGV
Great advice TGV. Ohhh and the very best of British on your new endeavour with WatchBox. I’m sure you’ll love it.
Thank you Jason, you are a gent.
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TGV
I recently inherited a Datejust from my grandpa he bought back in the 60s.
Should I get it through overhaul? Or should I keep it as a vintage.
I am just afraid that changing parts would devalue the fact that everything is original from the 60s.
Hey Mr. T, Congratulations on your move to the city of love and your place within the watchbox family! I'd like to ask, if you are going to review the rolex oyster perpetual someday in the future? I'm considering buying it and would love to have your opinion on it.
Best regards!
Thanks for this video, TGV! You answered a lot of my questions about watch servicing.
One question, would ease of servicing be a factor you’d consider in choosing between two watches? I’m trying to choose between the Tudor Black Bay 41, which has an ETA based movement, and the BB 58, which has an in-house movement. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I had a Seiko 5 that I purchased for £50, it required a service/regulation Seiko quoted just shy of £100. I kept it in my collection due to sentimental value and may one day had it serviced. I think factoring in services costs when purchasing is so very important. My ‘pinnacle piece’ has a 5 year warranty, it could go 10 years before a service. It did however cost quite a bit more than my Seiko lol
If you want to keep it as a functional sentimental piece without the upkeep costs, there's always the option of putting a quartz movement inside.
People look down on quartz a lot, but considering how damn expensive servicing automatics is I have a newfound respect for them.
how often did u have to service the seiko 5 ? i’m 15 thinking about buying seiko 5 auto
Very good topic. TGV because of you I ordered my first automatic watch. Cant wait to arrive. Keep the good work.
Thank you for bringing me into this hobby! I searched 6 months for my watch and I liked the hunt :). Now I got him!
That makes it all worth it when I hear it.
Thank you for sharing that, it inspires me so much.
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TGV
I should thank you because I wouldn't have got the watch without your tips and ideas! Thank you!!
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I serviced my Rolex by opening the case and spitting inside. Runs like a charm.
Cassidy bloodworth I think moron spit is corrosive. I do not recommend you do that sir..
Thanks for the tip
Did you had an olive oil salad beforehand?
Roger Alvarado it lubricates the gears and makes it run flawlessly.
Terry Tibbs Yeah no worries man, and if you want to add a further layer of lubricant then you can nut in the case and give the watch a good shake. it should crank right up.
Surprisingly, my Seiko with a 4R36 took a couple of months to get parts to my watchmaker. I wait until I see a change in accuracy unless I am going diving. Water resistance gets checked yearly if I am diving. Salt water in watches is worth avoiding!😱
Jeffery Neu , thank you. For any watch that you want to keep or want to be sure stays running, I think a yearly test is a good idea. A friend of mine who surfs just buys an inexpensive battery watch that he can discard when the seals give out or the battery dies. I also think that it’s a good idea to not go much further than 5 years before replacing the gaskets. I have a watch I really loved that was older and that I exposed to water after the seals had dried out. Fogged up inside. Fortunately, Seiko were able to repair the movement and replace the gaskets. I no longer plan to expose a watch to water unless it’s a specific watch I use for that purpose or can sacrifice. Thanks for the diver perspective.
Really well explained, even though I’ve been into watches for a long time I always find some things to learn from your videos.
I’d love to see another signet ring video in the future, still hoping for that to happen. :)
Greetings from the German Gentry.
Very good question and as usual very honest and logical answer TGV. I need to take some of my watches off the winder :)
Maybe another interesting topic: when is a watch worth servicing? Price point is the main thing here obviously, but it's also highly dependent on the type of movement. See e.g. the Speedy reduced.
Well it all depends. If you get let's say an entry level Seiko, Orient or Citizen you can easily just get yourself a new watch once the old one dies as most of the time it is not worth servicing a watch that costs little over 150 dollars. On the other hand, that 150 dollars Seiko 5 might be a gift from someone who's important to you and you don't care spending the half or the price of a watch for a service once every 5 years. I have a Seiko 5 that I got as a b-day present from my wife 4 years ago and despite it being the most affordable watch in my collection I love it the most and I will service until the end of my life because it has sentimental value to me.
In the old days, watches were meant to be serviced once a year. This was when cases were 'dustproof', not waterproof/water resistant, so dirt gets in where the crown meets the case. I have several vintage watches from the 40s-60s and I can see a trail of dirt leading from the crown into the movement!
Also, that was when people wore the same watch every day. I only wear a given vintage watch once or twice a week at most so I don't have to worry as much about dirt getting in. Even so, I keep track of the watch's performance and if it starts to gain/lose time, then I know it's time for a cleaning. These newer watches with nice, waterproof cases are going to be far cleaner inside, that's why they can go years or decades without servicing.
So, my 'take-away' from this is, *own as many watches as you can!*
That way, you save 'wear n tear,' instances of needing service, and thusly money... right?
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LOL, I like you style sir!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Bruh here in kuwait we have em all in one day. Balls hot at 3 pm but by 8 you need a thick Patagonia jacket 😂.
I got an Omega Seamaster. And I will service in 20 years. The service is 750 Euros. So I want to stretch the service interval as much as I can.
Hey TGV, I think it would be interesting to do a video on how to choose a watch band. Color, texture, style...what characteristics of the watch to observe and match a band to. Most none creative people out there have a hard time with this topic and end up settling with black or brown bands. As s designer I can send you some points to focus on but you no doubt have the eye for color matching. Keep up the cool work.
I wasn't really feeling the last video, but I still love your channel TGV! Keep up the good work and never change!
Good evening my friend. I'm noticing that a lot has been changing on this channel. I support you no matter what you do!💪🏽😎
Just serviced my Big Pilot and a crystal replacement at $900 by IWC. The watch comes back absolutely perfect. Was worried with WR as I do tend to sweat a bit more. Other than that it went 10 years from new before I decided it was time so having skipped one normal interval of 5 years it’s really was quite reasonable to keep a $14,000 watch in pristine condition.
Every time I hear somebody talk about weather and climate factors, I just remember how we, the citizens of Chicago, can have all seasons in one week.
All seasons in one week you say. Pffft,,, here in Melbourne Australia, we're renowned for having four seasons in one day. Dress in layers and always carry an umbrella :-)
@@mariocueva8700 i can confirm, i live just 10km outside melbourne
Appreciate this episode. Service is always an interesting question, and good to see it covered. Cheers.
I typically wait until there are obvious signs that it needs serviced. I’ve always done this and have never had a watch maker tell me that parts had been worn down so badly that they needed replaced. At least major parts that would make a big difference in what you pay for the servicing.
Very interesting question. I bought an SKX back in February and when I think about the day when it needs a service, it might be best to make a movement swap at a local watch maker instead of sending it to an AD for a service, as the service price is almost as high as the price of the watch.
Hmmm, interesting point. I have a suggestion, how about upgrade the movement while you are at it, like I did with my SKX?
Have a look at my recent Seiko video, my now is hackable and has manual wind.
Thank you,
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TGV
@@theurbangentry that's definitely an option I'll be looking into! But I hope the watch won't be in need of a service for many years! Maybe by then Seiko releases an updated SKX I can buy ;) but I have to say, it's kinda hard to justify spending so much time and money on this hobby, when there are so many fantastic watches by timex or a Casio duro for the fraction of the price that can be easily replaced if something breaks. No service or worries required.
Your comment about Omega is interesting. I got a 45,5mm Planet Ocean 7 years ago and put it in for service last week. I won’t get this watch back for 6 weeks, here in Singapore. I thought that was a little long... especially as the service cost will be at least 500 usd...
What do you do for a living to be able to buy exspensive watches like this please?
Jimmer Man nazi gold funds him
krbcrwlr stolen Iraqi Gold Bullion
He sells watches lol 😋
@@mojowarrior4578 😂⚰️
Great video as always Tristano! I can really see your passion for watches and see you enjoy making these videos. COuld you please make some more videos on Tag Hueur? I just bought a Formula 1 and would like to see you review one.
Makes the case to keep using my seiko for daily and keep the Rolex for the weekend and special occasions. I do love the SKX. When it needs services I will buy a $30 NH36 and just drop it in. Maybe i do need a time grapher...
Just about to attempt my first SKX mod. This journey of mine began when I accidentally stumbled upon your channel and what a journey. Hope you managed to keep Hugo's litter box at bay! 😀
Oils stop being lubricants and turn into abrasives, so running a watch that should have been serviced years ago can cause rapid wear. Usually it's balance jewels that wear fastest, and that is actually good, because they are easiest to replace, but still that costs much more already. Wear on winding stem bearings can be even impossible to repair, because they are in the mainplate. The watch may seemingly work fine although it is not properly lubricated anymore, so don't trust that you notice a performance drop when it's time for service.
Well said, thank you for sharing that.
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TGV
This makes sense for more complex/complicated watches, but I seriously wouldn't send in a Rolex or Omega until something actually stopped working. They have flat rates for servicing which includes any necessary part replacements. I'd say the same for any maker that charges a flat rate like that. New JLC watches will have an 8 year warranty so you know they have to be designed not to need servicing before that point. I wouldn't even bother having any watch under $500 serviced unless it was a quartz and just needed a new battery and gaskets.
Absolutely!
I wear em till they drop... I had cheap watches back in day and just threw em away at that point. had exactly one mid/high end watch die... 12 years old had it fixed and serviced at the same time. only a bit more expense than a service. I think the new oils and how much better watches are sealed now makes servicing not quite as impportant.
Honestly if it’s a Seiko 5, I’d just buy a new movement and replace the one inside.
Or buy a new seiko 5 :)
@@happy_burger Depending on which model you're getting, that could cost as much as servicing anyway lol
How much would it cost to service a seiko 5?
@@MaurizioOiziruam Depends on which model - the Seiko 5 range is pretty diverse but the bare minimum is about as much as buying the base SNK model. It's usually cheaper to just buy a new movement and replace the one inside.
@@Colddirector where could you buy a movement ?
T, Absolutely super old bean. Keep up the splendid work. Best as always. Matthew
Thank you number 1!
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TGV
Dont listen to all the trolls on watchbox, who would have thought people watching $50,000 watch reviews would spend so much time complaining and trolling like children .
I'm always amazed by the comments on there. Paralegals and Assistant Managers of UPS stores thumbing down their noses at anything that's not $20K plus, and talking about TGV being "eaten alive" by watch box. What a bunch of pillocks.
Tristan Pouw , i disagree though. Those guys arnt pulling down a serious salary showcasing watches on youtube, they are just buyers traders and sellers. They arnt like the Hodinkee people that have a few million in a collection. Futhermore if Tgv brings eyes to the channel , which he will , those people are guys with a seiko or sinn or oris or a cheaper breitling or even a seamaster, which was my entry into the next level. Everyone had an entry level at some point.
Worn my rolex sub everyday for more than 10 years. Occasionally swim with every summer. Probably time to have it serviced.
Good evening TGV, thank you for the insights regarding the servicing of watches. Really enjoyed that episode of GIAJ.
Thank you Heiko, so glad to hear!
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TGV
Good advise! There are no rules, only signs that a watch needs service. One thing that bears mentioning is that many pre-owned watch sellers will "inspect", but not service a watch before they sell it. Always assume you will need to service a pre-owned watch and price it accordingly.
great advice!
Looking sharp, TGV. Meant to comment on your last vid (Sub 16613) and your swagger when you hit the street. Gentry should have some swagger. One dilemma when in Metropolis's like LA and NYC, so many choices on where to service. Quite a few so called trusted watchmakers in the jewelry zone quoting me $400 on my Speedo MOTM, whereas Omega and flagship lux watch dealers with in house watchmakers want $800 plus, if no parts are needed. Bev Hills has an Omega service center, obviously too high. Best Regards, JPD
Thank you so much JP, the more you talk of LA, the more curious about it I become.
I really hope to make it out there one day and finally shake your hand. Hopefully in the next few years I can make that happen.
I have to say, $400 for the Speedy is not too bad, considering a full service on a less complicated ETA cost me about $250.
Hmmm, $800 is steep indeed, I wonder if it is just because it is that location?
Oh well, have a great Memorial Day weekend,
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TGV
I just open the case back when it's not quite running as well anymore and pour in a few drops of olive oil. Close it back up and shake it for 5 minutes to get it all in there. Job done. :P
Oh obviously buy really good olive oil, extra virgin works best.
Very good information to know, I like this quick question thing. Cheers!!!!
Thank you Captain! :D
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TGV
Very intresting topic, TGV!
I just found your channel and I truly enjoy the videos that at this point I have been able to watch. I have question that is closely related to this video. When it comes to servicing, repairing and even restoring watches, what do you recommend when looking for and selecting the best person/place to have a watch worked on? I have an old Mortima Oval Pepsi Diver's watch I that needs much work.
Hi, I have recently fallen into the wormhole of Horology and watchmaking in particular. As a Luthier I suppose it's a natural progression. I was wondering,,, For the last 3 months I have been regulating my Seiko 6R15 movement. I've had it down to 5s per day at one point. So i was wondering just how many other people regulate their own timepieces? and please if you have any experience then leave some tips ;-)
Good explanatory video, Tristano 👍
Thank you Leif :D
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TGV
Super fresh haircut, shout out to your barber 💯
Thank you Dino,
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TGV
Hello TGV, hope you are keeping safe with all this Covid stuff going on. Wanted to ask you, what do you think about the Omega Seamaster professional 300m (2018 model)?
You should do a video telling us about yourself. I watch all your videos and would love if you did a q and a about yourself
I did something like that a long time ago, but deffo due for an update.
Would this be a live show idea? I will see what I can do.
Thank you sir,
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TGV
I have a watch that I think is probably almost 100 years old. Don't know if it's ever been serviced but it still works (winding watch). Should I get it serviced and where?
Would you be able to do a video on Tag-Heuer again TGV? Perhaps their Formula 1 range? I love my F1 chronograph in blue. I remember your reply to a comment on one of your videos before Christmas when you spoke about their racing watches being so historic and you offered your congratulations on my purchase 👍
I think for my 40th in 5 years, I’d like the Omega Planet Ocean in the orange and black. My favourite watch which is well beyond me at the moment is the Rolex Hulk.
Thank you for this video - much needed.
Thoughts on how they will update the Rolex submariner next year?
I've wore my Seiko 5 daily for 30 years and never had it serviced. should I?
Rajesh Sarvanathan no.
If it ain’t broke,don’t fix it!
I hate to point this out for your expensive SKX mod, but it's Divers 200m. Diver's is the contraction of "diver is", which is a bit nonsense.
Or that it is showing possession as in it the watch of a diver hence diver’s watch
Excellent informative video, really appreciate it 👍
Hi TGV, So basically, is it safe to assume that "if it's not broken, don't fix it?" Do you have any independent non-boutique watch service center around NYC besides Saltzman? Just for basic servicing, ie. regulating and cleaning/lubing.
Oh and how much does it usually cost for these basic services?---Newbie here. Thanks to you I'm now hooked!
Thank you, that really depends on the movement, the amount of work, what parts need to be replaced.
So no easy answers I am sorry to say, but send it in to your watchmaker and get a quote, that would be the best way.
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TGV
Nosuchvideos, I’ve had two manual-wind vintage watches overhauled by a local experienced watchmaker, and one recent autowinder. The manuals were $180 each and the auto was around $200 and included some repair. By comparison I sent a Swiss 6798 movement with a friend to Puebla, Mexico. It needed work on the balance spring as well as an overhaul. Her father, who lives there, found a repair shop he trusted and made sure they did not know a Yankee Imperialist owned it. That was $65. I’ve been meaning to take it to my local fellow and see what he thought of the work. Two of the best watchmakers near me started their work in their youth in Mexico. I live in Houston, Texas where the cost of living is still reasonable compared to the other coasts.
@@markcoveryourassets The problem with having your watch serviced is that it's easy to do a half-assed job and the watch will be running properly when returned to the customer. These days, it's best to use the expensive synthetic oils and grease, but a shop could be using the cheap stuff and you wouldn't know the difference, at least not at first. It's the expensive oil that allows years between servicing so be careful, you may be getting what you pay for.
How does winding a watch in a safe periodically change the rate of oil evaporation?
What about for lower end automatics? If the watch costed less than £100, isn't it likely that the service will cost more than the watch?
I've switched back to my Casio 5610 so I am hoping it lasts for a very, very long time despite any abuse it gets!
The watch itself will survival basically anything, but I've found the rubber casing on old g-shocks tend to get gooey and nasty after a decade or so, and has to be taken off. The watch is still functional, but much smaller and less stylish, also the miniature spring bars are 16mm, so they only take *tiny* straps.
If you can get yourself a nato strap adapter, you can bump the strap size back up, but getting a new rubber shell and strap costs about as much as buying a new G-shock lol. Of course, none of this applies if you get the metal G-shocks.
Was wondering if you could could give your opinion on the Seiko SSC295P1? I have no idea why but I love this watch. Was wondering your take on it before I buy one. There are several in the SSC line of watches. Not exactly sure what all the differences are.
Hello TGV. I'm a first time writer.
I just purchased one of the newer models of seiko5 (seiko srpe 61) with a 4R36 movement in it. Today I watched a video on youtube which claimed that Seiko watches are disposable, because the cost of serviceing it by Seiko corporation itself, in every 3 to 5 years, is basically 2/3 of the price of a new one, or even sometimes the cost of service is more than the cost of a new Seiko 5 watch. Watching that video made me doubt my choice in my recent purchase, and although I love the watch, it upsets me.
So, I wanted to know your opinion on this matter? Do you really think a Seiko 5 is a disposable watch? Is there any more affordable way to service them to justify the price a d cost?
Thank you for your great channel and videos.
Regards,
Aria.
Waiting for this topic for so long! I’m pumped!
Hi TGV,
I’m intending to buy a Muhle Glashutte Terrasport on a trip to Germany. Basic model, just date being the only complication. I’ve heard their watches are quite robust, and i intend to use it only on the weekends in rotation with my seiko 5. How often do you think i’ll need to service it ?
I live in Brazil, so that’s something to consider.
Thanks a lot !
Love the channel !
Hi, Mühle recommends service after 5 years. But that is not necessary at all. The movement in that watch is based on a Sellita SW100-1 (Swiss ETA equivalent) - one of the most reliable movements in the industry and legendary. Best: Every Brazilian local watchmaker will be able to service it! But you might not need to service it for more than 20 years :)
Jenny P. excellent ! I’m much more reassured to buy it now. That’s great ! Thanks a lot for the info !
Can you do a video about why and how different movements, eta or in house, why you say, this is a good movement, what makes it a good movement and what are the different types and categories of the mechanical/automatic movements. I’ve been looking for a video on this but all I can find is just videos on the difference between quartz and mechanical/automatic movements... which is not what I’m looking for.
I really like your channel and your videos are very informative and entertaining. Really wish you could make a video about how and what makes a good movement and how to identify it.
Thanks.
T.
And sorry if you’ve already made a video about that and I’ve not searched properly.
Good to see you back in the pad. Unless this is a 1:1 replica set of your living room???? The world may never know. :D
Here's my basic rule of watch servicing.
Is it running bad? Low power reserve, bad timekeeping? Send it in for a full service
Is it suddenly running bad? Get it demagnetized yourself or ask a watchmaker specifically for demagnetization.
Are you diving a lot in saltwater? First off all, after every dive, rinse it off with tap water to get the salt out of there to prolong the life of the gaskets. Also get it "water-serviced" every year or two. Here in Sweden at least you can ask the watch maker for such a service and all he will do is open it up, clean the area where the gaskets are, replace all of them and test the watch's water resistance. Usually around 100 dollars instead of a full service. Really worth it.
Work with your watchmaker and try to get a good one that won't try to get you to purchase a full service each time when your watch only really needs to be demagnetized or get its gaskets replaced.
Thank you for the recapitulation,
Best regards,
TGV
I like the short intro.
Depending on watch movement and use..follow proper servicing pays of in a long run...
My Breitling Chronomat Valjux Movement last Service was from 2004 and serviced it last year payed $1000 to Breitling and follow my regular maintenance which is $300 this is CAD dollar im speaking about..
Cheers
I wouldn't service it unless it acts very strangely or is broken. Don't service it just because its been a few years.
Absolutely, thank you Ferdinand,
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TGV
I service all my Rolex every year. Just pop off the case back and drop the watch into methylated spirit let it dry for a few seconds and then if running slowly give it a quick blast of WD40 if running too quickly just give it a spray of well used engine oil that will def slow it down. After 30 years of doing this my watches show no corrosion at all they don’t tell the time anymore but do still look great on the wrist.
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Hi urban gentry. Should we still buy ETA movement powered watches in 2019. This question is not about the exclusivity of in house movement, but I am worry about future serviceability and parts availability. For example, I purchase a Tudor black bay 36/41 in 2019. Maybe after 10years there is some wear and tear parts need to be replace. Is those ETA movement received sellita’s parts as a alternative? And is those sellita’s parts compatible with ETA movement ?
what about servicing when timing starts to get off hard? that's a sign of lubrication issue or particles. that's what i do.
Yes! Been looking for an answer to this question 🙂
Hi TGV. Good topic. I have jus got my seamaster from the 70's by an Omega authorised repairer. It was working well anyway but had been unused for the last 20 years. I don't think it was ever serviced. I can feel the difference especially when handwinding it. Some parts had to be changed and were sourced from omega. Also the crown was changed which left me wondering about the value of watch...Is that ok? What do you think? One positive thing is that the repairer also gave me the old parts.
Great video! Really helpfull information
So glad I could help,
Thank you Cam,
Best regards,
TGV