I remember back in the late 80s around 1989 in Panama before the invasion. 7th Infantry Division (Light) out of Ft. Ord CA trained at the Jungle Operations Training Center at Ft. Sherman. They had 2 types. The first was a vertical chest rig that carried 6 mags and the rest was the slant 4 pockets like you have. To us ( OPFOR) for JOTC 1/508th INF (ABN) they looked cool. For Light Infantry was okay. But for us Airborne Guys we couldn't imagine how we could have worn these during a jump in a T-10 parachute harness and reserve? We can jump with the ALICE LBE looped inside our T-10s. After force on force with MILEs gear in the jungle we asked the 7th ID guys how they liked wearing these things. The Privates and NCOs said they hated them because just walking out in the jungle with them generated to much heat and it couldn't ventilate very well like the old ALICE LBEs. These guys had very bad heat casualties running around with them. We had to stop exercises because it was exhausting a bunch of their guys just wearing them. Very hard to carry their large ALICE rucksacks during road marches and we seen they had a hard time carrying them up hill. Again with many heat related injuries just wearing their LBV 88s. During the Panama Invasion the 7th ID did come back and back us up. Some soldiers had LBV 88s and regular LBEs with the PASGT Flak Jacket. Those were not much help because I wore one during combat. I like using the LBE much better because I was more used to it. I remember LBV 88s was not Army wide issue because Desert Storm guys even from high speed units used LBE for training and combat. Even after post Desert Storm when I was in Hawaii. The 25th ID liked using the LBE because it was much cooler during field training and live fire. Green Gear was still loved by the Army and Marines that it was still used in early Afghanistan and Iraq for combat. The M16 ammo pouch was excellent. You can ditch everything including the pistol belt and attach everything with ALICE clips onto the then new Interceptor Body Armor. Iraq 2006-08 I had two sets with me which was my own gear. I used a Blackhawk Chest Rigg and a Condor Chest Rigg. The FLICK OTV was okay. I liked my own chest rigs better for combat. The Condor was better because it had an inside map pouch and attached my IFAK, NODs, and do dads on my body armor. The Blackhawk was very basic bit comfortable when running and gunning. I even went down to just using my body armor as my carry all with the MOLLE loops a few times by attaching all my pouches on it. It was alright but I liked my Condor better because it fit so much better during combat. I hardly ever got prone during firefights unless I had to and got caught in the open. I had to shoot and move to get cover many times in Mosul, Tal Afar, Sadr City Baghdad, and other small towns I can't remember. I tried the LBV88 before Iraq and hated it. The straps would get loose, the nylon material would have "Furby Hair", stitches would come loose, the plastic broke often. I junked mines and turned it in. It sucked for me. The nylon in the LBVs were thinner than the bomb proof ALICE LBEs. That is my opinion and experience with the LBV 88. Totally YUCK!! For me that is.
This is the system we used when I was in the Marines. We had the very same setup except we had a butt pack in between the canteen pouches and our med pouch was mounted right where the US in the middle of the back is. We also hung our bayonet from the belt. We didn't have the pistol mag pouches.
In the Marines we also trained to retain our mags. So if you are dropping your mags all over the place while you reload, you will eventually loose or run out of mags. When I was in, we used our cargo pocket to shove mags in. Now they have dump pouches.
I can see where that rig might be preferable in a straight out firefight, and IMHO it's way better all around than molle. In my day (90-96) we used a slightly modified version of the Marines 782 rig for comms and devices. For my "peaceful" needs now, I'll stick with that/alice rig. Its all about what works for YOU !
I know your focus is tactical but I have found this rig is great for hiking and bushcrafting especially with a butt pack you can get a 1-3 day kit and not have to carry a backpack
That's my idea with this thing. I wanted to make my alice belt set up last longer in the field (aka carry more crap) so this rig freed up two triple mag pouches worth of space on the belt by putting the mags on my chest. Now I have more belt room for more survival and shelter based gear. Goal is to make it suitable for a rough day or two escapade
I wear mine with a modified ALICE pack but have removed the straps. I connected the side panels to the MOLLE shoulder straps and to the MOLLE kidney belt. Only downside is taking off the complete pack takes undoing four buckles, feel like a burlesque dancer. wouldn't do for a tactical situation but for hiking I love it.
I’ll stick with H suspenders and belt. I switched out the belt for a condor gun belt. Easier to adjust on the fly. I like more of the weight on my hips. Good demo and vid. Liked it.
The Enhanced GI LBV is excellent to carry loadout, be in a prone position both to cut done silhouette, and also in case you need to crawl for cover too. For me this is great for my Mountain Loadout kit.
I had the LBV issued to me in Basic (2007) and I liked it. When I went to AIT and had to wear the more common LBE belt/suspender combo I found myself missing the vest. And even once out of that and actually getting MOLLE vests and pouches on my IOTV and plate carriers when deployed.. I found myself reminiscing slightly about my old LBV. Specifically I really like the LBVs chest rig design for the magazine.. up, but also to the side so they're out of the way, can still go prone, etc. Vs pouches strapped straight to my IOTV right on the bottom flap like most guys, or just trying to wear them up higher, but just straight vertical like that wasn't that great... I never quite found a good MOLLE solution (my last vest setup had a single row of magazines wrapped around trying to be as slim as possible, sometimes easier said than done with all the little extras that always seemed to find their way onto my vest lol)
This video brings back memories! We wore the LBV in 4/9 IN (6th ID) up in Alaska mid 90s. I preferred the old H harness LBE for winter field usage though. Most of today’s kit is way over engineered IMO.
It's a neat setup to play with, but unless you were in the Army in 1995, it flat out sucks....Way too much "stuff" sewn together. It's like a HOT heavy, Girdle with bra-straps that you wish to hell you never got to wear. The enhanced version at least is made with mesh for a little ventilation, but If I were buying old school/retro load bearing gear I'd get some old Alice or German LBV....
These are still really usable, its not modular but you don't always need modularity. I used one in basic training and the ALICE belt a suspenders in medic school and I much prefer the LBV88 over the Y suspenders or the MOLLE II FLC, I used later on.
I have one and it kinda sucks. I mean, it works, but a regular chest rig does the same job but doesn't have all the excess straps and adjustments and extra material. Whenever I put it down it seems like it turns into a big tangle of a mess. Having the mag pouches angled puts them in a weird area, which was supposedly to make them easier to get to when prone, but a high chest rig is easy. Plus vertically oriented mags are easy to get to from both sides. Also makes wearing backpacks awkward.
I put the mags on my weak side facing ammo up and vice versa. I find it much easier and faster to just grab the top of the mag out of the pouch and push it farther up in my hand against my chest to get a beer can grip.
Personally never liked the slanted pouches but by chance I found an vertical pouch one in VG condition in the $5 bin at the local surplus store. I’m gonna run around with it a bit and see if it’s superior to the slanted pouches like it always seemed.
I trained with old alice gear and around 1991 the 82nd avn unit I was in went tonthat lbv vest we all preferred the old system and i still have old lbe setup actually gave away an lbv vest inalso have the newer lc2 vests like them alot
USMC '87-'94... we NEVER saw those!!! We didn't rate those high speed, low drag setups! We'd just grab 2 more mag pouches, and push everything toward the canteens...
@@doitriteak I'll say this... I was lucky... I was with H&S 3/4... I wasn't a grunt, but I'd have to go downrange to feed grunts... and would often get shot at... yeah, I earned my NMC CAR!!! Then again, a SSgt needs to get off his lazy ass to do it! Can't have the nonrates do everything! Oh, I also went back in in 2001; they etched that moto shit into my brain housing group!!! You know exactly what I mean!!!
I never had the opportunity to be issued one, we had just the old LBE. I was able to score the m1967 H straps tho. Guys that had the LBV that I talked to said they were hotter Than the old web gear. I might get one to play with anyway. I have my uncles webbing from Korea and it’s cool to see the improvements they made (or lock there of) in 50 years
I put together a rig composed of M-67 suspenders, that last issue pistol belt with black fastex buckle, two M-16 mag pouches, nylon buttpack flanked by two 3rd pattern M-67 canteen pouches. This setup works better for me than the LBV-88.
I still use my lbe, I don’t have the vest, personally, o like the normal ALICE stuff more, but more power to you if you use this, it’s a great thing to have, but I like having my pouches and other stuff, all over my waist and such, and the probe doesn’t bother me a whole lot, but that’s just how I am, but thank you for your review of this, it’s very helpful and I’ll defiantly invest in one and try it out
You look over the Russian version? I wear the Chinese bandolier backwards it sits above my lbv above canteens. It gives me extra ammo and snacks. Not practical for urban. But long range foot patrol its nice.
Fyi you can get better cord locks now and longer paracord at mostly any US military surplus store. Also the ALICE buttpack in woodland is available on eBay.
It's considered Enhanced, since the mag pouches on the first LBV-88 were mounted vertically, harder to get to them. Not sure if the first one, LBV-88 had mesh or just fabric material, but the Enhanced is mesh to be cooler.
I have two big problems with this system. 1.) The shoulder straps are too thick. The straps are to hold your ruck straps on top of them, or they WILL slide off. 2.) It's a child of the 80s, so it holds STANAG magazines fine, but is hit or miss with Gen 1 and Gen 2 PMags, and I've yet to see one that will fit Gen 3 PMags or HK mags.
I fit PMags and AUG mags fine. That is fake news about it slipping. I used this system in bootcamp while having to move with a pack with speed and intensity. You will love the padded straps when you have a full combat load and then some.
@@doitriteak I tried 3 of them and could get Gen 2 PMags in the single mag pouches on one. Gen 3 and HK mags wouldn't go at all in any of them. They were built with tolerances, and I happened to get ones that wouldn't take the newer mags.
Parabéns pelo seu vídeo, foi muito explicativo, estou estudando a compra deste Lbv 88, eu acho muito mais apropriado aqui no brasil em relação aos coletes !
I'd prefer 4 2 mag pouches why do they have single pouches? Hopefully not that ridiculous 210 round combat load? Can a hydration bladder be attached to the back straps? Thanks
I have a question about variants of this. I have seen one of those with every strap snow white, no visible signs of modification. Was there a variant looking like that? Or is that just modified one?
The D rings are meant for the buttpack. Not the vietnam era style, but the woodland style buttpack. There is a video on UA-cam that shows how to install the buttpack onto the lbv88.
Thanks, I swore the PASGT didn't have plate inserts, and Interceptor's were really hard to find for a comparable price. Just looked it up tho, you're 100% right. Do you know of any other modern adaptations of these, or other carriers, because that's a lot more weight, no one really has LBV's in mind nowadays, but I think they are still pretty viable.
Still relevant? Yes. For a modern military it's about as good as the FLC. However for civilian use I prefer the ALICE gear and the LBV over plate carriers. Remember gents. A ballistic plate is only useful if the other guy is good enough to hit it
You would hate current issue gear that places everything but the kitchen sink around your mid section over body armor thats an inch and a half think with no flex because your wearing plates that will only stop one round.
You can adjust the sides so the pouches are more along your sides than in front. That being said I prefer the old h harness myself with a patch of vented panel sewn in on the back straps to keep it from twisting and tangling up when you remove it. Distributes attachment to the belt in the back better. Good old marine Corps finding more ways to attach more gear to yourself as time marches on. And each item has a new pouch so theres even more weight. Eventually they'll need to issue a cart to push to carry even more.
Justin Bandy thanks buddy I was able to get my 47 mags in it but only 1 per mag holder then just bought some more mag holders and put them along the bottom side worked for me
Good Video. IS IT REALLY WISE TO BE STRIPPING AND TOSSING YOU MAGS ON THE GROUND???????....YOU HAVE ROOM FOR A DUMP POUCH ON YOUR PISTOL BELT!!!!!!.....WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOUR AMMO RE-SUPPLY COMES ON STRIPPER CLIPS AND NO MAGS AND YOU HAVE NO MAGS BECAUSE YOU'VE THROWN ALL OF YOUR MAGS,BEHIND YOU,ON THE GROUND?????....THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN SOMALIA/THE MARINES HAD RIFLES,AMMO BUT WERE IN A HABIT OF STRIPPING THEIR MAGS AND THROWING THEM ON THE GROUND,SO THIER RIFLES WERE BASICALLY CLUBS AT THAT POINT!!!!!!
I've had to replace the adjusting cord on the sides with additional paracord to "compensate" for my fat ass ( now going to physical therapy to correct that).
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I remember back in the late 80s around 1989 in Panama before the invasion. 7th Infantry Division (Light) out of Ft. Ord CA trained at the Jungle Operations Training Center at Ft. Sherman. They had 2 types. The first was a vertical chest rig that carried 6 mags and the rest was the slant 4 pockets like you have. To us ( OPFOR) for JOTC 1/508th INF (ABN) they looked cool. For Light Infantry was okay. But for us Airborne Guys we couldn't imagine how we could have worn these during a jump in a T-10 parachute harness and reserve? We can jump with the ALICE LBE looped inside our T-10s. After force on force with MILEs gear in the jungle we asked the 7th ID guys how they liked wearing these things. The Privates and NCOs said they hated them because just walking out in the jungle with them generated to much heat and it couldn't ventilate very well like the old ALICE LBEs. These guys had very bad heat casualties running around with them. We had to stop exercises because it was exhausting a bunch of their guys just wearing them. Very hard to carry their large ALICE rucksacks during road marches and we seen they had a hard time carrying them up hill. Again with many heat related injuries just wearing their LBV 88s. During the Panama Invasion the 7th ID did come back and back us up. Some soldiers had LBV 88s and regular LBEs with the PASGT Flak Jacket. Those were not much help because I wore one during combat. I like using the LBE much better because I was more used to it. I remember LBV 88s was not Army wide issue because Desert Storm guys even from high speed units used LBE for training and combat. Even after post Desert Storm when I was in Hawaii. The 25th ID liked using the LBE because it was much cooler during field training and live fire. Green Gear was still loved by the Army and Marines that it was still used in early Afghanistan and Iraq for combat. The M16 ammo pouch was excellent. You can ditch everything including the pistol belt and attach everything with ALICE clips onto the then new Interceptor Body Armor. Iraq 2006-08 I had two sets with me which was my own gear. I used a Blackhawk Chest Rigg and a Condor Chest Rigg. The FLICK OTV was okay. I liked my own chest rigs better for combat. The Condor was better because it had an inside map pouch and attached my IFAK, NODs, and do dads on my body armor. The Blackhawk was very basic bit comfortable when running and gunning. I even went down to just using my body armor as my carry all with the MOLLE loops a few times by attaching all my pouches on it. It was alright but I liked my Condor better because it fit so much better during combat. I hardly ever got prone during firefights unless I had to and got caught in the open. I had to shoot and move to get cover many times in Mosul, Tal Afar, Sadr City Baghdad, and other small towns I can't remember. I tried the LBV88 before Iraq and hated it. The straps would get loose, the nylon material would have "Furby Hair", stitches would come loose, the plastic broke often. I junked mines and turned it in. It sucked for me. The nylon in the LBVs were thinner than the bomb proof ALICE LBEs. That is my opinion and experience with the LBV 88. Totally YUCK!! For me that is.
Thanks for sharing! :)
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@@williamdawson4023 Bless your Dad there friend! He is a PARATROOPER!! A Paratrooper is family to me.
If you don’t mind me asking, which was better? The LBV, Or the old ALICE belt w/ suspenders?
@@BudderSlayer302 I liked ALICE better than the LBV.
This is the system we used when I was in the Marines. We had the very same setup except we had a butt pack in between the canteen pouches and our med pouch was mounted right where the US in the middle of the back is. We also hung our bayonet from the belt. We didn't have the pistol mag pouches.
In the Marines we also trained to retain our mags. So if you are dropping your mags all over the place while you reload, you will eventually loose or run out of mags. When I was in, we used our cargo pocket to shove mags in. Now they have dump pouches.
I can see where that rig might be preferable in a straight out firefight, and IMHO it's way better all around than molle. In my day (90-96) we used a slightly modified version of the Marines 782 rig for comms and devices. For my "peaceful" needs now, I'll stick with that/alice rig. Its all about what works for YOU !
Werry good video! Russian VDV 6sh92-4 very close to US LBV-88, but not the same 🤔. Thanks for video, and privet from Russia!
After this video, I'm fully convinced to buy that vest in Amazon (only $20 from a military surplus store). Really helpful video, nice one!
I know your focus is tactical but I have found this rig is great for hiking and bushcrafting especially with a butt pack you can get a 1-3 day kit and not have to carry a backpack
flc is even better for that ad more versatile. that waist pack stores a poncho liner
That's my idea with this thing. I wanted to make my alice belt set up last longer in the field (aka carry more crap) so this rig freed up two triple mag pouches worth of space on the belt by putting the mags on my chest. Now I have more belt room for more survival and shelter based gear. Goal is to make it suitable for a rough day or two escapade
I was still rocking the LBV in OSUT like you did in Bootcamp, I think it's a pretty awesome vest. I never had any issues with it.
I used this rig in basic back in 2005 and it is still my favorite lightweight recon rig
05 deployment the frag pouches were perfect dip can holders
I wear mine with a modified ALICE pack but have removed the straps. I connected the side panels to the MOLLE shoulder straps and to the MOLLE kidney belt. Only downside is taking off the complete pack takes undoing four buckles, feel like a burlesque dancer. wouldn't do for a tactical situation but for hiking I love it.
That same system is still being used here in Mexico I've seen whole companies using it.
Sometimes, surplus stuff can still be perfectly serviceable.
I’ll stick with H suspenders and belt. I switched out the belt for a condor gun belt. Easier to adjust on the fly. I like more of the weight on my hips. Good demo and vid. Liked it.
Great video, love the use of the AUG with this kit. Originally assumed nothing fit but aluminum ar mags
I have 2 of these, magpul Gen 2 and 3 mags fit in it
The Enhanced GI LBV is excellent to carry loadout, be in a prone position both to cut done silhouette, and also in case you need to crawl for cover too.
For me this is great for my Mountain Loadout kit.
Your an under rated Chanel. Cannot be overstated!
I had the LBV issued to me in Basic (2007) and I liked it. When I went to AIT and had to wear the more common LBE belt/suspender combo I found myself missing the vest. And even once out of that and actually getting MOLLE vests and pouches on my IOTV and plate carriers when deployed.. I found myself reminiscing slightly about my old LBV. Specifically I really like the LBVs chest rig design for the magazine.. up, but also to the side so they're out of the way, can still go prone, etc. Vs pouches strapped straight to my IOTV right on the bottom flap like most guys, or just trying to wear them up higher, but just straight vertical like that wasn't that great... I never quite found a good MOLLE solution (my last vest setup had a single row of magazines wrapped around trying to be as slim as possible, sometimes easier said than done with all the little extras that always seemed to find their way onto my vest lol)
This video brings back memories! We wore the LBV in 4/9 IN (6th ID) up in Alaska mid 90s. I preferred the old H harness LBE for winter field usage though. Most of today’s kit is way over engineered IMO.
Great video very informative, I honestly believe this kind of gear will always be relevant!
It's a neat setup to play with, but unless you were in the Army in 1995, it flat out sucks....Way too much "stuff" sewn together. It's like a HOT heavy, Girdle with bra-straps that you wish to hell you never got to wear. The enhanced version at least is made with mesh for a little ventilation, but If I were buying old school/retro load bearing gear I'd get some old Alice or German LBV....
These are still really usable, its not modular but you don't always need modularity. I used one in basic training and the ALICE belt a suspenders in medic school and I much prefer the LBV88 over the Y suspenders or the MOLLE II FLC, I used later on.
Just realized the grenade pouches will hold 2 glock 17 mags perfectly.
Sure. The problem is when you grab just one. The other can easily just fall out if you tip one way or another.
Really? I have to try it when i get back home
I have one and it kinda sucks. I mean, it works, but a regular chest rig does the same job but doesn't have all the excess straps and adjustments and extra material. Whenever I put it down it seems like it turns into a big tangle of a mess. Having the mag pouches angled puts them in a weird area, which was supposedly to make them easier to get to when prone, but a high chest rig is easy. Plus vertically oriented mags are easy to get to from both sides. Also makes wearing backpacks awkward.
I put the mags on my weak side facing ammo up and vice versa. I find it much easier and faster to just grab the top of the mag out of the pouch and push it farther up in my hand against my chest to get a beer can grip.
Anything that helps distribute the weight of what you need to carry is relevant, even old style Alice Y harness with a web belt.
Very well made video, good job! Congrats and respect from Brazil!
Personally never liked the slanted pouches but by chance I found an vertical pouch one in VG condition in the $5 bin at the local surplus store. I’m gonna run around with it a bit and see if it’s superior to the slanted pouches like it always seemed.
Vertical pouches of the first generation were found to get in the way in the prone and were difficult to extract
I trained with old alice gear and around 1991 the 82nd avn unit I was in went tonthat lbv vest we all preferred the old system and i still have old lbe setup actually gave away an lbv vest inalso have the newer lc2 vests like them alot
Awesome job giving the rundown of this classic loadout! What pistol mag pouch is that?
I've got Alice LBE and MOLLE FLC the 2 setups I used when I was in though I've got a 3 day field training pack normally for LBV on my LBE.
USMC '87-'94... we NEVER saw those!!! We didn't rate those high speed, low drag setups! We'd just grab 2 more mag pouches, and push everything toward the canteens...
Yeah I was given this in boot camp but they were used in the Iraq invasion and in Fallujah often
@@doitriteak When were you there? I was there with 3/4 when we relieved the Army, in early '04... By then, we'd moved to MOLLE...
I was in Afghanistan with 1/6. I just know because everytime it was shown on the news, the marines had a mix of LBV88E and the interceptor.
@@doitriteak I'll say this... I was lucky... I was with H&S 3/4... I wasn't a grunt, but I'd have to go downrange to feed grunts... and would often get shot at... yeah, I earned my NMC CAR!!! Then again, a SSgt needs to get off his lazy ass to do it! Can't have the nonrates do everything! Oh, I also went back in in 2001; they etched that moto shit into my brain housing group!!! You know exactly what I mean!!!
I never had the opportunity to be issued one, we had just the old LBE. I was able to score the m1967 H straps tho. Guys that had the LBV that I talked to said they were hotter Than the old web gear. I might get one to play with anyway. I have my uncles webbing from Korea and it’s cool to see the improvements they made (or lock there of) in 50 years
I put together a rig composed of M-67 suspenders, that last issue pistol belt with black fastex buckle, two M-16 mag pouches, nylon buttpack flanked by two 3rd pattern M-67 canteen pouches. This setup works better for me than the LBV-88.
I still use my lbe, I don’t have the vest, personally, o like the normal ALICE stuff more, but more power to you if you use this, it’s a great thing to have, but I like having my pouches and other stuff, all over my waist and such, and the probe doesn’t bother me a whole lot, but that’s just how I am, but thank you for your review of this, it’s very helpful and I’ll defiantly invest in one and try it out
You look over the Russian version?
I wear the Chinese bandolier backwards it sits above my lbv above canteens. It gives me extra ammo and snacks. Not practical for urban. But long range foot patrol its nice.
Thank you for this video trying to recreate my 90',s LBV.
At fort Ord 7th I'd light in the 80s we wore the 6 mag version with a butt pack, loved it.
Fyi you can get better cord locks now and longer paracord at mostly any US military surplus store.
Also the ALICE buttpack in woodland is available on eBay.
Excellent video, great info!
Just picked up another mint one dated 1994.
Like your video. New sub here. Thanks for not having a 15 minute commercial like bear and so many others have become on UA-cam.
I been used this vest for 2 years now still Rock n Roll .
It's good but I am noticing some limitations I will have to clarify in my follow up video.
I have a few of these... new polymer mags you don't get two in the pouch
Nice system my only pet peeve is the loud Velcro
It's refreshing to hear concepts from someone who also served, and not from a "gunshop commando" . SEMPER FIDALIS.
Great informative video, I had the same set up in basic. For the love of all that is Alice.... I CANNOT FIND that pistol ammo pouch anywhere....
Is the Vietnam Era web gear still relevant?
Depends on the application
I've never used this vest, so please forgive my ignorance, but what makes this one enhanced?
It's considered Enhanced, since the mag pouches on the first LBV-88 were mounted vertically, harder to get to them. Not sure if the first one, LBV-88 had mesh or just fabric material, but the Enhanced is mesh to be cooler.
I have two big problems with this system.
1.) The shoulder straps are too thick. The straps are to hold your ruck straps on top of them, or they WILL slide off.
2.) It's a child of the 80s, so it holds STANAG magazines fine, but is hit or miss with Gen 1 and Gen 2 PMags, and I've yet to see one that will fit Gen 3 PMags or HK mags.
I fit PMags and AUG mags fine. That is fake news about it slipping. I used this system in bootcamp while having to move with a pack with speed and intensity. You will love the padded straps when you have a full combat load and then some.
@@doitriteak I tried 3 of them and could get Gen 2 PMags in the single mag pouches on one. Gen 3 and HK mags wouldn't go at all in any of them. They were built with tolerances, and I happened to get ones that wouldn't take the newer mags.
Awesome video!
Still relevant without the side pouches. Just use it as a h harness with basic alice gear.
Parabéns pelo seu vídeo, foi muito explicativo, estou estudando a compra deste Lbv 88, eu acho muito mais apropriado aqui no brasil em relação aos coletes !
I'd prefer 4 2 mag pouches why do they have single pouches? Hopefully not that ridiculous 210 round combat load? Can a hydration bladder be attached to the back straps? Thanks
Yes I was able to put a bladder on the back using the utility straps
I have one of these, unfortunately all the load it has to bear is in my abdomen.
I was more of a fan of the Canadian one, but I like the US one also.
I have a question about variants of this. I have seen one of those with every strap snow white, no visible signs of modification. Was there a variant looking like that? Or is that just modified one?
Sounds like a modified one or perhaps a custom one for an SF or SEAL team
@@doitriteak thanks mate.
It's relevant as hell.
The D rings are meant for the buttpack. Not the vietnam era style, but the woodland style buttpack. There is a video on UA-cam that shows how to install the buttpack onto the lbv88.
I just want to know if you could put g3 or fal mags in it
Nope.
I can wiggle a Yugo M77 20rnd mag into the double pouch. The single is a no go however.
Do you think ak mags will fit in load bearing vest? They are 9 inches long
They wont fit well
@@doitriteak do you think they will fit just won't close too good?
It wont even be close. They are too long
@@doitriteak I appreciate it man
This whole string of comments lol
Anyone know plate carriers that work with these?
Interceptor or PASGT
Thanks, I swore the PASGT didn't have plate inserts, and Interceptor's were really hard to find for a comparable price. Just looked it up tho, you're 100% right. Do you know of any other modern adaptations of these, or other carriers, because that's a lot more weight, no one really has LBV's in mind nowadays, but I think they are still pretty viable.
The army had the OTV
Will AK47 mags fit in those pouches?
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What belt are you using?
Lc1
Still relevant? Yes. For a modern military it's about as good as the FLC. However for civilian use I prefer the ALICE gear and the LBV over plate carriers. Remember gents. A ballistic plate is only useful if the other guy is good enough to hit it
I don't like it. Too much clutter up top by your chest. I'll stick to my old school Alice gear Haha. Very informative video though.
You would hate current issue gear that places everything but the kitchen sink around your mid section over body armor thats an inch and a half think with no flex because your wearing plates that will only stop one round.
You can adjust the sides so the pouches are more along your sides than in front. That being said I prefer the old h harness myself with a patch of vented panel sewn in on the back straps to keep it from twisting and tangling up when you remove it. Distributes attachment to the belt in the back better. Good old marine Corps finding more ways to attach more gear to yourself as time marches on. And each item has a new pouch so theres even more weight. Eventually they'll need to issue a cart to push to carry even more.
Can they hold ak mags?
Not at all
No, they are not long enough.
You can get 47 mags in but they won't stay. 0 retention. I did manage to get my 74 mags to work.
Justin Bandy thanks buddy I was able to get my 47 mags in it but only 1 per mag holder then just bought some more mag holders and put them along the bottom side worked for me
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I found it rather bad at heat dispersion.....
Good Video. IS IT REALLY WISE TO BE STRIPPING AND TOSSING YOU MAGS ON THE GROUND???????....YOU HAVE ROOM FOR A DUMP POUCH ON YOUR PISTOL BELT!!!!!!.....WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOUR AMMO RE-SUPPLY COMES ON STRIPPER CLIPS AND NO MAGS AND YOU HAVE NO MAGS BECAUSE YOU'VE THROWN ALL OF YOUR MAGS,BEHIND YOU,ON THE GROUND?????....THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN SOMALIA/THE MARINES HAD RIFLES,AMMO BUT WERE IN A HABIT OF STRIPPING THEIR MAGS AND THROWING THEM ON THE GROUND,SO THIER RIFLES WERE BASICALLY CLUBS AT THAT POINT!!!!!!
It was outdated in 1988.
Nothing's changed since then.
UH, pistol mag pouches, but no pistol holster????????????
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This has got to be the dumbest, antiquated piece of kit
Is what I said before I bought it and now I fucking love it
I've had to replace the adjusting cord on the sides with additional paracord to "compensate" for my fat ass ( now going to physical therapy to correct that).
...it feels alot better than the old ALICE system.
I like its versatility for sure
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OMG! What kinda freaky AF Gun is that guy rocking?! Lol!
LBVs suck. It’s all about the H-harness.