Ofc it can be effective. But nowhere as well as newer, much MUCH better pattern. The French still have it because they have it. That's all. Did you use the same argument to defend the UCP?
I like that the sleep system was separate from the main ruck. Now the UCP & OCP rucks, the pocket for the sleep system is builtin which is a pain to get stuff in and out sometimes.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 I did my Basic Training (summer last year) with this current generation of gear, so I got used to it. Had no idea the bottom pocket was for the sleep system but it was useful information towards the end of my deployment this year. In Basic we closed off the bottom part of the ruck, kept it empty so everything was high and tight.
@@James.B.Russell Also another useful piece of info is that the buckles on the FLC are used in place of the zipper when used with plate carriers. But I also assembled both of my FLC's(Woodland and ACU) slightly different from US Army SOP. On the woodland Flick I did six 2 mag pockets and 4 grenade pockets. On the ACU I did 2 3 mag panels four 2 mag pockets two on each 3 mag panel with 4 grenade pockets with 2 in between both M4 2 mag pockets on both panels.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 In Basic my FLC was set up so you'd clip it from the back. In AIT it was in the front. When I bought my own (coyote brown, technically used by the USMC) is when I figured out that you can switch between the 2 configurations. For the deployment this year, we just got IOTV Gen 4s where we attached everything directly to it, stupidly didn't bring my personal FLC (and screw the ACU one issued to me by my NG unit, I hate mismatched camo). But we were issued the TAPS within the OCP rifleman's kit, which I never used since it was so much bulkier on the kit than direct attachment IMO.
@@goforbroke4428 Nah man, no one's around anymore that remembers any of this obsolete s***. If you're unlucky enough to get issued ALICE, LBE88, or the first Molle System, you're SOL. And probably need to procure you're own instructional material like this, too lmao.
Have you ever seen something so 90s that your eyes roll in the back of your head and your mouth foam as your seizing on the bathroom floor... O shit I might have another problem
With most of my gear being MOLLE II, I figured there was a "MOLLE I but didn't think much about it beyond that. I guess that explains why some sustainment pouches you find surplus are 12" wide and 8 and 1/2 tall. All of mine are 12" wide and 11" tall ( I get them in double packs and wear them with some chest rigs when I don't feel like carrying a full ruck. I snap the tabs and fish paracord though the loops created and secure them to the crossed shoulder straps ). The main ruck looks way different than what I'm accustomed to seeing compared to Army surplus MOLLE II main rucks that have more webbing, the sleep system carrier is integrated into the main ruck as a zipper pocket, etc....... The "Flick" seems to have changed a bit as well. I usually pair a rifle with a vest set up for it and store them together. With a Flick, I stow the front buckles and straps for them, zip the vest up, and lift the inside velcro so that I can turn the belt to buckle in the back ( removing the strip that covers it there. This lets me keep all of my pouches attached to it, carry more by bridging across the zipper. I can slip it on and buckle it in the back, keeping it adjusted high enough so the rifle mags on't interfere with my pistol belt and pistol mags ). My gear is a mish-mash of Army, Marine, and foreign gear such as Russian ( me being mostly an AK guy ), Dutch, Finnish, etc.......This was very interesting to watch, thanks for posting it :)
Go to a craft store and get 4 old school D rings. Weave them into the snap straps. This is better than the issue D rings, 2 straps = small pack, one for a sling pack, etc. You can still use the pouches as normal.
This seems to be for the Molle II equipment. The original Molle LBV had a different waist belt that had a black rucksack frame attachment on it. They removed it because they hurt individuals and broke often. Also original Molle didn’t have a Waist Pack. 1st Gen Molle had a butt pack that was basically the same as the IIFS/ALICE version. It shares the same NSN as the Molle II Waist Pack. 1st Gen Molle also had a single 30 round mag pouch. This was dropped as it proved to be a waste when a double 30 round mag pouch could fit in the same space.
I have several FLC vest LBV the 78duece, I got some Rhodesian chest rigs fereday and sons and Eagle Industries. All still great gear all still reliable and relevant. I have one PC and I don’t run it ever cheat rigs becomes more popular like 2-3 years ago and now people are starting to look back into the FLC vest
@@Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise Just and FYI... It's UCP, not ACU. ACU = Army Combat Uniform, The camo pattern is UCP= Universal Camo Pattern. WORST camo pattern EVER!! LOL!! Except maybe for in a gravel pit. :D
@@MD_Films you're right, but now its a huge fad..... before that cigarettes were the big thing...... that's just my retired, 21 years in the army opinion...... but im not a Democrat so i WILL say........ i could be wrong
Wasn't in during this time or never served but I've seen troops from the war on terror use all alice, mixed molle and alice, and all molle gear in the war some solders still has flak vests and use of molle iba vests too
ik im late to the party but what would be the use case for the pistol configuration💀 like im not in the military or anything (yet hopefully) but is there a guy just running around with a M9?💀
I've been looking for one of the companies 'Beavertail' products to use to store a low-profile helmet on a Blackhawk 3 day pack. Currently out of production. When are these going to be produced OV ???
I hate the molie pack and assault pack we should just updated the Alice pack, it would have been cheaper and better just look at the malice pack or the 1st eberlestock jackhammer. It brings me joy we are ditching the mollie vest too, the tab isn't great but it's better, now if only we could get rid of the mollie pack and assault pack too
Didnt watch the video. Id rather wear MOLLE over LBV. Everyone thats running with support how much ammo are you carrying or how did you set it up? Did you put the ammo around your waste or all on chest?
Never got to play with the new stuff when I was in. But I've managed to get a few pieces over the years, in woodland. Still searching for a patrol pack. The ruck is amazing, compared to the large ALICE. I've yet to find a civilian bag I prefer.
It depends. I’ve done patrols with both ALICE and MOLLE systems. Either one is great when set up and worn correctly. MOLLE rucksacks have lots more padding in the shoulders, but are also much bulkier than ALICE and can hold more stuff. They also are plastic and lighter, but won’t take nearly the long-term beating aluminum framed ALICE rucks will. ALICE fits me personally better and rides better on a smaller frame like mine- I’m 5’7” with 44” chest n 34” waist. MOLLE ruck is more comfortable by itself, but does not breathe nearly as well and when you’re a sweat little guy like me, you want as much airflow as possible. Now, I use a MALICE ruck from TacTailor- pretty spendy but worth it IMO as you get the best of both worlds- the aluminum and breathing ALICE frame with the larger somewhat better layout of the MOLLE main pack. The MOLLE FLC is much improved over the ALICE LBE- much more real estate available to better spread out your load and is much easier to customize. Neither the LBE or FLC were designed to be worn with body armor, but both can be made to function if necessary.
MOLLE and other chest type rigs are designed to work better in a vehicle including helicopters. Anyone who's ever had to sit on a bench or driver's seat for a couple of hours while wearing LC 2 gear knows about it. I've used an FLC and it's okay, but hard to get it low, which I like better. Also, the LC type butt packs hold almost as much as an assault pack and much better ventilated. I'm down South, so that's important. Really depends on your intended use for any system.
This is what PEAK PERFORMANCE looks like.
That's not alice gear
Wildburn it’s better than alice
@@wild_burn no shit fuckhead
@@Germ357what is wildburn
We should go back to woodland.
Agreed!
Stupid multicam multi operation garbage UCP was mistake Woody was great Woodland is the king of camos.
Boomer nonsense.
@@MrDK0010 Shut it Woodland still effective That's reason french has their own CCE pattern.
Ofc it can be effective. But nowhere as well as newer, much MUCH better pattern. The French still have it because they have it. That's all. Did you use the same argument to defend the UCP?
I still have this VHS that came with the MOLLE gear.
@Jinnie Xi Pooh yeah.
I dont know where you found this on VHS tape, but I'm glad you decided it was worth sharing.
don't you just love the triumphant horn music when it pauses to let the crayon eaters practice what they just learned lol
@@cagneybillingsley2165
No tactical crayon pouches. This is certified Army kit lol.
It comes in the plastic bag with the early rifleman kits from the factory
Man I miss old videos like this 😂
The music just screams Late 1990s-early 2000s
I love the Rainforest Café Music playing in the background
2:24. And then they went F*** that here's this big ass heavy ass iotv
Where's this video been hiding. I thought I'd never be able to watch it.
The removable sleep system carrier should’ve stayed and the need for a medium ruck wouldn’t have happened tbh
The American military in the 90's really had the best look
I like that the sleep system was separate from the main ruck. Now the UCP & OCP rucks, the pocket for the sleep system is builtin which is a pain to get stuff in and out sometimes.
Luckily there's that zipper on the bottom that makes it easier
@@James.B.Russell thats not the point though. the point is the b=new system makes it a PITA to do anything with the sleep system now.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 I did my Basic Training (summer last year) with this current generation of gear, so I got used to it. Had no idea the bottom pocket was for the sleep system but it was useful information towards the end of my deployment this year. In Basic we closed off the bottom part of the ruck, kept it empty so everything was high and tight.
@@James.B.Russell Also another useful piece of info is that the buckles on the FLC are used in place of the zipper when used with plate carriers. But I also assembled both of my FLC's(Woodland and ACU) slightly different from US Army SOP. On the woodland Flick I did six 2 mag pockets and 4 grenade pockets. On the ACU I did 2 3 mag panels four 2 mag pockets two on each 3 mag panel with 4 grenade pockets with 2 in between both M4 2 mag pockets on both panels.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 In Basic my FLC was set up so you'd clip it from the back. In AIT it was in the front. When I bought my own (coyote brown, technically used by the USMC) is when I figured out that you can switch between the 2 configurations. For the deployment this year, we just got IOTV Gen 4s where we attached everything directly to it, stupidly didn't bring my personal FLC (and screw the ACU one issued to me by my NG unit, I hate mismatched camo). But we were issued the TAPS within the OCP rifleman's kit, which I never used since it was so much bulkier on the kit than direct attachment IMO.
I just got into my unit and I didn’t know how to set the MOLLE gear. This was in my recommendations.
Didn’t go to basic training and get taught that shit?
Truly living in an era of lost media. 😂
@@goforbroke4428
Nah man, no one's around anymore that remembers any of this obsolete s***. If you're unlucky enough to get issued ALICE, LBE88, or the first Molle System, you're SOL. And probably need to procure you're own instructional material like this, too lmao.
Have you ever seen something so 90s that your eyes roll in the back of your head and your mouth foam as your seizing on the bathroom floor... O shit I might have another problem
I think you have epilepsy
Lmfao
Thanks for this upload! I've been looking for this video for years!
So had we!
based?
@@tumblingdown8612 based indeed
With most of my gear being MOLLE II, I figured there was a "MOLLE I but didn't think much about it beyond that. I guess that explains why some sustainment pouches you find surplus are 12" wide and 8 and 1/2 tall. All of mine are 12" wide and 11" tall ( I get them in double packs and wear them with some chest rigs when I don't feel like carrying a full ruck. I snap the tabs and fish paracord though the loops created and secure them to the crossed shoulder straps ). The main ruck looks way different than what I'm accustomed to seeing compared to Army surplus MOLLE II main rucks that have more webbing, the sleep system carrier is integrated into the main ruck as a zipper pocket, etc....... The "Flick" seems to have changed a bit as well. I usually pair a rifle with a vest set up for it and store them together. With a Flick, I stow the front buckles and straps for them, zip the vest up, and lift the inside velcro so that I can turn the belt to buckle in the back ( removing the strip that covers it there. This lets me keep all of my pouches attached to it, carry more by bridging across the zipper. I can slip it on and buckle it in the back, keeping it adjusted high enough so the rifle mags on't interfere with my pistol belt and pistol mags ). My gear is a mish-mash of Army, Marine, and foreign gear such as Russian ( me being mostly an AK guy ), Dutch, Finnish, etc.......This was very interesting to watch, thanks for posting it :)
Those some pretty badass setups my guy, nice!
Go to a craft store and get 4 old school D rings. Weave them into the snap straps. This is better than the issue D rings, 2 straps = small pack, one for a sling pack, etc. You can still use the pouches as normal.
Thanks for the great info. Now I know how to properly utilize the MOLLE system. Very helpful!
Ultralight summer camping might be fun with just the Light Fighting Load or the Assault Pack Load.
Thats one of the most nefarious lookin' boots I ever saw.
07:43 finally I’ll learn how to attach a four row M16A2 pouch that overlaps 4 rows of PALS.
Video cuts
Reeeeeeee
I think I need this for my VHS collection.
Came here to make sure i fit my FLC right. Had the H all the way up the back of my neck. Glad this video is up.
I still have a good deal to the original MOLLE pouches and still use them.
1:55 this dude looks like a mannequin
the gear looks all great and comfortable but a whole different story with body armor with plates not issued at this time
It gets uncomfortable and you have to re adjust it too
the PASGT vest was already out long before this and the Interceptor Body Armor was in development and came out shortly after this
This seems to be for the Molle II equipment.
The original Molle LBV had a different waist belt that had a black rucksack frame attachment on it. They removed it because they hurt individuals and broke often.
Also original Molle didn’t have a Waist Pack. 1st Gen Molle had a butt pack that was basically the same as the IIFS/ALICE version. It shares the same NSN as the Molle II Waist Pack.
1st Gen Molle also had a single 30 round mag pouch. This was dropped as it proved to be a waste when a double 30 round mag pouch could fit in the same space.
you're right on point
I should probably get this
The things I would do for an m81 FLC 🤤
With music like this, they should have hired Peter North and Nina Hartley as instructors...
Peter North putting the load in load-carrying equipment
This makes me feel old.
I have several FLC vest LBV the 78duece, I got some Rhodesian chest rigs fereday and sons and Eagle Industries.
All still great gear all still reliable and relevant. I have one PC and I don’t run it ever cheat rigs becomes more popular like 2-3 years ago and now people are starting to look back into the FLC vest
I find it funny that we still have the same stuff just in a different camo
I still like the IIFS. But would be nice to find all this gear.
They’re cheaper than ever. You can get USMC surplus Eagle double mag pouches for like $20 per 5 pouches *shipped* on eBay.
The FLC is not much more.
Full rifleman kit with grenadier pouches $63 on amazon but no ruck or butt pack and its in ACU
@@Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise Just and FYI... It's UCP, not ACU. ACU = Army Combat Uniform, The camo pattern is UCP= Universal Camo Pattern. WORST camo pattern EVER!! LOL!! Except maybe for in a gravel pit. :D
molle2 is an awesome system if you know how to configurate. It fits so well.
Yall gotta police those straps up. You're killing me flopping around like you're at the airsoft match
It's so.... A E S T H E T I C
Old school I didnt know molle was that old
Watching this I heard Britney Spears "Ops I did it again" in my head and took me back to field day in HP245.
Whoa! Thanks man!
Yea I learnt a lot from Molle stuff.
I can just imagine information overload at basic training with all these visual aids
Never watched a training film in basic training
@@goforbroke4428 I didn’t watch anything at training except for black hawk down on the last day at fort Benning
1:58 Why does this mate look like an action figure 💀
You can tell the model is an actual soldier. The haircut? Oh hell no. Because he looks like he has a discreet dip in his mouth.
That dip bullshit wasn't really a thing untill after I'd say 2012, 2013 or so give or take.......
@@kurtrussell5228 why wasnt dip a thing then
@@kurtrussell5228 Dip has been used among Soldiers and Marines before then.
@@MD_Films you're right, but now its a huge fad..... before that cigarettes were the big thing...... that's just my retired, 21 years in the army opinion...... but im not a Democrat so i WILL say........ i could be wrong
@@kurtrussell5228 it was a big thing in my unit in 2009 and later. Can't smoke at night outside the wire or in a tower.
Big question: Did anyone get issued all the gear. Did you get bites of it, mixed in with Alice, whatever you could get your hands on ?
Wasn't in during this time or never served but I've seen troops from the war on terror use all alice, mixed molle and alice, and all molle gear in the war some solders still has flak vests and use of molle iba vests too
Sweet video.
ik im late to the party but what would be the use case for the pistol configuration💀 like im not in the military or anything (yet hopefully) but is there a guy just running around with a M9?💀
Just... WOW! Thanks so much for uploading this. What year was it recorded 1997? 1999? VHS... kids today will never understand XD
I do I grew up with VHS tapes
Anybody know where I can find this set up? I'd like to compare to the more modern Molle set.
Ebay
Surplus stores.
@@MD_Films this is the way
Do you have the video on ECWCS Gen I?
I have never seen or heard of a video for the original ECWCS system.
I've been looking for one of the companies 'Beavertail' products to use to store a low-profile helmet on a Blackhawk 3 day pack. Currently out of production. When are these going to be produced OV ???
12:54. Yo admission I is this as a snack pack yep Pringles in monsters are going here along with dip
Very Cool
0:55 the dudes got a dip in, I think lol 🤔
This'll be useful
MOLLE
I hate the molie pack and assault pack we should just updated the Alice pack, it would have been cheaper and better just look at the malice pack or the 1st eberlestock jackhammer. It brings me joy we are ditching the mollie vest too, the tab isn't great but it's better, now if only we could get rid of the mollie pack and assault pack too
This guy's eyes and upper face remind me of hutch
Didnt watch the video. Id rather wear MOLLE over LBV. Everyone thats running with support how much ammo are you carrying or how did you set it up? Did you put the ammo around your waste or all on chest?
Why wasn't I told to be all I could be?
I have the assault pack and waist in woodland camo
Anyone know the yr this was first issued ?
VINTAGE
What year was this ?
Likely between 1998-2000.
When was this relesed
Not sure of the exact release date. Between 1998-2002. There may have been an earlier version of this video, but I can't confirm.
when was this video tape made?
I'm not exactly sure, but probably around 1998-2000.
@@OVInnovations Thanks, because I have that same MOLLE vest and I was wondering from what time period it was from.
I believe gen 1 MOLLE (this stuff) was introduced in 1997 if wiki is right.
Is it better than Alice(for long range patrols)
With experience from both platforms, Molle is way better in my opinion.
Never got to play with the new stuff when I was in. But I've managed to get a few pieces over the years, in woodland. Still searching for a patrol pack. The ruck is amazing, compared to the large ALICE. I've yet to find a civilian bag I prefer.
It depends. I’ve done patrols with both ALICE and MOLLE systems. Either one is great when set up and worn correctly. MOLLE rucksacks have lots more padding in the shoulders, but are also much bulkier than ALICE and can hold more stuff. They also are plastic and lighter, but won’t take nearly the long-term beating aluminum framed ALICE rucks will. ALICE fits me personally better and rides better on a smaller frame like mine- I’m 5’7” with 44” chest n 34” waist. MOLLE ruck is more comfortable by itself, but does not breathe nearly as well and when you’re a sweat little guy like me, you want as much airflow as possible. Now, I use a MALICE ruck from TacTailor- pretty spendy but worth it IMO as you get the best of both worlds- the aluminum and breathing ALICE frame with the larger somewhat better layout of the MOLLE main pack. The MOLLE FLC is much improved over the ALICE LBE- much more real estate available to better spread out your load and is much easier to customize. Neither the LBE or FLC were designed to be worn with body armor, but both can be made to function if necessary.
MOLLE and other chest type rigs are designed to work better in a vehicle including helicopters. Anyone who's ever had to sit on a bench or driver's seat for a couple of hours while wearing LC 2 gear knows about it. I've used an FLC and it's okay, but hard to get it low, which I like better. Also, the LC type butt packs hold almost as much as an assault pack and much better ventilated. I'm down South, so that's important. Really depends on your intended use for any system.
2:23 alpha male stance
This video sounds like creaking.
So many broken frames