Chainsaw Oil: What it is Made of!
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2023
- It's NOT just Oil: 2-Stroke Oil's Surprising Ingredients (You didn't know!)
In video I highlight some of the unbelievable ingredients that make up Two Stroke oil. I also explain Mineral vs Synthetic 2-Stroke Oils. In many different applications, including motorcycles, scooters, chainsaws, and outboard motors, two-stroke engines are frequently employed. These engines need a certain kind of oil to lubricate and carry out other crucial tasks. The two primary varieties of two-stroke oils are mineral (traditional) and synthetic two-stroke oils.
Synthetic Two-Stroke Oil: Made from carefully chosen chemical ingredients, synthetic two-stroke oil is a man-made lubricant. It goes through a difficult manufacturing procedure that yields a highly controlled and refined product. Synthetic two-stroke oil's salient features include:
Purity: Synthetic oils are created with a molecular structure that is consistent, reducing contaminants and undesirable additives and resulting in a cleaner burning oil.
b. Low Smoke: Synthetic two-stroke oil typically creates less smoke during combustion than mineral oil because of its cleaner formulation. As a result, it is more eco-friendly and appropriate for situations where emissions are a problem.
c. Lubrication: Compared to mineral oils, synthetic oils have better lubrication qualities. On engine parts, they create a more uniform and protective surface that reduces friction, wear, and heat generation, thus improving engine performance and lengthening engine life.
d. Temperature Resistance: Synthetic oils can withstand high temperatures better than conventional oils, making them ideal for use in engines that operate under severe loads or in harsh environments.
Mineral (Conventional) Two-Stroke Oil: Unlike synthetic oil, mineral two-stroke oil is produced mostly from naturally occurring crude oil. For two-stroke engines, it comprises a combination of hydrocarbons and additives that lubricate and protect them. Mineral two-stroke oil's key characteristics are:
Cost: The production of mineral two-stroke oil is typically less expensive than that of synthetic oil. It is therefore more affordable for those who might have financial restrictions or don't need the improved performance provided by synthetic oils.
b. Ease of use: Since mineral two-stroke oil is less refined than synthetic oil, it could have a little bit more contaminants and additives. Even though this could produce more smoke and deposits, it might also be beneficial for some older engines that depend on particular additives for optimum lubrication.
c. Lubrication: Mineral two-stroke oil still offers sufficient lubrication for many engines, although not being as effective as synthetic oils. The best engine performance can be ensured with routine maintenance and the correct fuel-to-oil ratio.
d. Environmental Impact: When using mineral two-stroke oil, more smoke and perhaps greater pollutants are produced. Due to its effect on air quality, the use of mineral two-stroke oil may be limited in environmentally sensitive locations.
In conclusion, a variety of criteria, including engine type, intended use, operating conditions, and personal preferences, influence whether synthetic or mineral two-stroke oil should be used. Due to its higher performance and reduced environmental impact, synthetic two-stroke oil may be the best choice for users with modern high-performance engines or those who care about the environment. However, mineral two-stroke oil can still offer sufficient lubrication and protection for older engines or applications that must be cost-effective. Always refer to the manufacturer's suggestions and instructions when choosing the right oil for your particular two-stroke engine.
Have a great day
Craig (Owner and creator of The Repair Specialist Channel)
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My apologies guys, I mistakenly showed polyalpholefins as having the chemical formula of C6H5AsO, when in fact they have the -CH2- repeating units. C6H5AsO refers to
Phenylarsine oxide. Again, my apologies. Craig
Craig, thank you for making a detailed video about 2 Stroke Oils.
Thank you for your kind and encouraging feedback. Craig
I thought that I had a fundamental understanding of two cycle engine oil until I watched this video. Thanks for the tutorial.
You are very welcome, and thank you for your kind feedback. Craig
Just yesterday I mixed a jug of fuel. As always I wondered to myself, what makes this stuff special. Excellent timing!
Thank you. I appreciate you letting me know, and for your king words
Thank-you for your explanation of the 2 stroke oil types,so synthetic oil would be the best way to go, to save my 2 stroke tools. The cost of lawn & Garden 2 stroke tools now a days I think that paying a little more is not that bad considering buying a new weed wacker or blower. Thank-you for doing the video & letting is be more informed.
Craig another video with nice to know info. but I will be honest I can’t even pronounce those additives no less remember them. I’ve always used 2 stroke oil and in the proper ratios but never had a clue what they were constructed of. Thanks for sharing and hope all is well across the pond. 👍
Well researched material 👏 👌
Thanks man 👨
Thank you I really appreciate your kind feedback on this. Craig
Thanks for sharing but I am not sure it has helped me pick a synthetic oil for my chainsaw. Do you have any views on Aspen Fuel?
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Thanks really informative. I work in a big box store that sells a 2-stroke oil labeled as 40:1 & 50:1, it's 6.4oz and makes 2.5 gallons. The bottle is labeled as containing fuel stabalizers and the store website says synthetic with additives. I usually show it to customers who aren't sure and can't provide any machine or engine information. Any thoughts on it? Thanks
My only 2-stroke engine is in a Poulan Pro PR5020, 20" Chainsaw, and I bought a can of Husqvarna (who makes Poulan Pro) premixed 50:1 Premium Zero Ethanol (E0) for it to avoid canceling the warranty and the extended warranty I bought, and to get the best fuel I can, or at least what Husqvarna/Poulan said is on the box. I've heard, maybe from you, that 40:1 is better than 50:1 for better piston lubrication, though it blows more smoke, but 50:1 is what I bought because that's what's on the box and the manual says, "a good quality synthetic 2-cycle air-cooled engine oil designed to be mixed at a ratio of 50:1," so synthetic is mentioned, but the Poulan Pro website says "all of our chainsaws are 40:1." The manual also says, Regular 87 Octane (AKI) with up to 10% Ethanol (E10), but I use E0 in all my small engines now and will continue to use Premium E0 in the chainsaw, premixed canned Premium or mixed myself.
I may try 40:1 when this can runs out for engine longevity. Your thoughts on that, please. Like would 40:1 require more cleaning maintenance, and to what extent, how often, etc.? Have you done a video on 2-stroke oil mixtures, 40:1 vs 50:1, with the Pros and Cons of each? For chainsaws and small 2-stroke engines in general? Not motorcycles, karts, etc. If not, please do.
I did not know there were two types of 2-stroke oils, three including blends, so this was very informative. Synthetic is better and has lots of additives to insure that, and it would seem the additives may vary, making it hard to know which one is best to use. A manufacturer should/could specify a synthetic or blend brand and particular product in the manual, but my manual did not, saying only "good quality." Same for a mineral oil? One would think they should. I guess Mineral oil is more standalone, without additives. I wonder if using a synthetic/mineral blend or a synthetic in an engine that specifies mineral would cause issues. I can see the reverse being true.
I assumed that the Husqvarna Premium 50:1 I bought was correct, but it seems 40:1 should be acceptable. Thank you, Mr. Craig! And thanks in advance for answering my questions. Please consider the video request, or give me a link if you already made the video. Good day, Sir.
Hello there! It sounds like you've put a lot of thought into taking good care of your chainsaw. Let's go through your questions step by step:
Starting with the oil mixture ratio, it's great that you're being mindful of the manufacturer's recommendations. The manual suggests a 50:1 mixture, and that's what you've been using. However, there's some debate about whether a slightly richer mixture like 40:1 could provide better piston lubrication, even though it might produce more smoke. It's true that a richer mixture could help with lubrication, but the difference might not be significant enough to noticeably affect engine longevity, especially if you're already using a high-quality synthetic oil.
As for the cleaning maintenance, while a slightly richer mixture might lead to slightly more carbon buildup over time, modern synthetic oils are designed to minimize this issue. Regular maintenance, like cleaning the air filter and spark plug, will still play a crucial role in keeping your chainsaw running smoothly.
Regarding your request for a video comparing 40:1 and 50:1 mixtures for small 2-stroke engines, it's an interesting idea! Different mixtures could have specific advantages and disadvantages, and such a video could help many people make informed decisions.
You've mentioned the variety of 2-stroke oils available, and you're right that synthetic oils often have additives that enhance performance and protection. While manufacturers might not specify a particular brand or product in the manual, the emphasis is usually on using a high-quality oil that meets the required specifications. Mixing synthetic and mineral oils or using a synthetic in an engine that specifies mineral oil is generally not recommended due to the potential for compatibility issues.
So, in a nutshell, you're doing a fantastic job by considering the best options for your chainsaw's maintenance and longevity. Remember, whatever mixture ratio you choose, regular maintenance and using a high-quality oil are key. As for the video request, it's worth checking if any experts have covered this topic on platforms like UA-cam or chainsaw-related forums. Keep up the great work, and if you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
Have a wonderful day!
Craig
@@TheRepairSpecialist Thank you very much. You did it again. You really covered all the bases, you answered every question in detail and I really appreciate it.
I appreciate your consideration of making mix ratio video discussing the Pros and Cons each one, maybe even as high as 25:1 for inexpensive chainsaws and their cheaply built engines. I eagerly await it because your videos are always so helpful, as was the info in your reply.
I copied all of this and added it the other for future reference.
Thanks again, Mr. Craig. You're the best!
Greatly explained😊😊😊
Most Manufacturers Handbooks recommences their own product in this case 2 Stroke Oil, examples of this is Stihl, Husquvana Mikita just to name a few but for Warranty Compliance use their brand, some companies like Stihl will extend the warranty period if you use their semi synthetic blend, which the extra dying usually shows in the engine, proving your using the specific oil.
Question, being in Australia with Victa 2 Stroke engines in their lawn mowers which are quite old now in most cases ran at 25;1 mixture ratios on mineral oils where the only option at the time.
The base of the question is if using a better quality oil like semi or full synthetic blend can you reduce the amount of oil used an example is 35:1 due to the progression and extra protection of there’s newer oil?
Thanks🤔
Thank you for your kind feedback, I really appreciate it. and yes, I personally would have no issues with reducing the amount of 2-stroke oil used in my machines if I was using 25:1 mineral oil/fuel mix on an older machine, to 35:1 fuel/oil mix. Thank you. Craig
@@TheRepairSpecialistCraig the question arose from Victa’s claims on their front label own branded oil Victa Formula V 2 Stroke oil (1L Bottle) produced by Valvaline that “it makes twice as much as compared to 25:1 formulations” also using diagrams of a lawn mower,trimmer and chainsaw including the following statement; Victa Formula V 2-Stroke Engine Oil is specifically developed for high performance air cooled 2-Stroke engines. The unique formulation was developed to ensure minimal ash deposits and spark plug fouling leading to easier starting and less maintenance
In Victa’s. Trimmier Manual it states mixtures at 50:1 exclusively to only use Victa Formula V 2 Stroke Oil 2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product/d9ca7f21-c1fd-4e5d-8a0b-6335b9fa1d02.pdf page 16
Most of these additives are also used engine oil...i suspect that the mixture blends vary from regular passenger car motor oil...i have a friend who formulated 2 stroke oils...he buys 55 gal drums of esterex 400 from Mobil...2 stoke chemistry and then added to his base oil..
I dont see how this is diffrent from a 4stroke motor oil. Should I start using standard motor oil in my 2 stokes?
Great question! It's important to note that 2-stroke oil and 4-stroke motor oil serve different purposes in engines. While they may share some common ingredients, their formulations are tailored to meet the specific needs of their respective engine types.
Using standard motor oil in your 2-stroke engine might not be the best idea. 2-stroke engines require a special oil that not only lubricates but also helps with combustion, as they don't have a separate oil reservoir like 4-stroke engines. This specialized 2-stroke oil is designed to burn along with the fuel in a specific ratio, ensuring proper lubrication and preventing engine damage.
So, it's generally recommended to stick with the designated 2-stroke oil for your 2-stroke engine to ensure it runs smoothly and efficiently. If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask! Thank. Craig
Where is the *Castor Oil?*
Poly alpha olefins don't have the formula C6H5AsO! (Phenyl arsine oxide)
Oh my goodness, yes I have mistakenly put this chemical formula here. Thank you for highlighting this and I will try and correct it. Thanks again. Craig
Under the Anti Foaming Agents section you listed silicone. I believe the correct additive is silicon.