Honestly, the Aurelian campaign has to be the most frustrating and hardest campaign I had in rome 2. You start off being at war with everyone, and Roman pretenders have full stacks within 5 turns and attack you.
Playing it after playing Attila makes it a lot more manageable since you're used to the survival style of gameplay except Roman units here are actually strong unlike Attila.
To be fair Legend, the traditional pantheon of Jupiter, Juno, Minerva etc that we know as the Roman religion was a foreign adaptation. The original religion of Rome had been largely forgotten by the 2nd century BC. I think their loss of nationalism and Roman identity happened before Christianity and had more to do with being an empire, which incorporated non-Roman values. They basically stopped striving to be Cincinnatus and instead aspired to be eastern kings. Then again, I'm just an ass writing an essay in the youtube comment section.
I’d agree somewhat, For the first two centuries of the empire the roman legions still dominated and with a pantheon which kind of inspired you to die in battle like mars (or Valhalla for the Vikings) your soldiers are more willing to die in battle I would think, but then again I’m writing an essay in response to a two year old comment
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 the Roman nobility already didnt want to serve, plus the Roman army even by the end was made ip of majority Roman soldiers.There’s dozens of reasons why the empire fell
So I've been using some of your vocab in front of my girlfriend, and I can proudly say that she cursed "fuck me sideways" today. One of my proudest moments :')
if it's the same as in rome 2, then you should build temples of neptune in each settlement in africa. if you build 4 harbours there, then the 30% wealth from maritime commerce from those temples will make you a lot of money, while providing public order at the same time. then the 3 other slots in the minor settlement for agriculture buildings, since Leptic Magna provives wealth increase to agriculture buildings.
The only historical figure legend can play as without getting accused of cheesing. Yes. Aurelian was just that good. I will not allow any rebuttal to this statement. He is literally Majorian except he actually succeeded.
Hey Legend, just popped in to say I found you recently from a recommendation on the Total War Reddit, been catching up on some past series of yours, and wanted to tell you to keep up the great work! The world needs more people who are unapologetic. Keep being yourself, making awesome content, and don't worry about the downers. There are plenty of us that appreciate what you do. Cheers!
Rome II is a nice game. It's got potential to be great, however the problems it's faced during it's release and Development days tarnished it's reputation. Right now, best it has ever been.
This is definitely one of my hardest campaigns in rome 2… I was fighting full-capacity legions of Gallic Rome and Lusitania in like 10 turns or so, Northern Italy basically turned into a wasteland. But after you defeated all of them reconquering Gaul and Hispania should be an easy task
There wasn't really a 'roman religion", they just picked everything from different religions of the lands they occupied. The Greek culture was the most important of them all.
I had a six minute advert crop up during this video. Six. Minutes. And I let it run, because I enjoy your content that much Legend. Have a good day. Fucker. :)
Legend should be the one playing for the Total War channel and just have someone narrate it. I mean, the one who played Aurelian there isn't even in Legendary difficulty yet he is struggling, losing settlements and not reclaiming much during the same number of times as Legend on Legendary difficulty... :/
Why don't you give your legions any upgrades (yellow chevrons) at the beginning? I'm sure you have your own unique playstyle, but I'm genuinely curious?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but based on what I see from the game data in the memory, the percentage of senator is determined by the amount of "accumulated influence"(AC) of a political party, not the summation of current gravitas of all its members, and it's redistributed as (the AC of a certain party)/(the summation of all parties' AC). Besides, lowering someone's gravitas doesn't lower the AC of his political party. The AC seems to decrease only when you take a political action which says " - X senators". As for increasing AC, when someone earns gravitas, his party gains the same amount of AC (twice as much if it's provided by the party leader). Generals can earn gravitas through winning battle by the amount of (4 - his ambition), meaning low ambition general earns higher gravitas.(kind of weird) The amount of gravitas change after losing a battle is (ambition*2 - 9), so high ambition general loses less gravitas. But like I said, general losing gravitas doesn't decrease the AC of his party. Just my two cents :)
I think you completely missed what i was trying to do. By preventing the political opponents from having gravitas I was trying to prevent them from increasing their influence so that my political party was the only one gaining any. By doing that other factions will have less % of influence since theirs is not increasing but mine is.
Yes I'm aware that you try to gain more senators by doing that. What I'm trying to say is you don't have to lower their gravitas by spending money on spread rumor because their party's accumulated influence won't decrease. I'll try to explain the mechanism: Accumulated influence(AC) is a hidden data for each party. It is not the summation of character's current gravitas. At the beginning of a campaign, each party start with a predetermined amount of AC. For example, let's say your faction only has two political parties. Your party starts with 80 AC, the other 20. This determines that you own 80% senators. Spreading rumor lower your opponent's gravitas, but this actually DOESN'T lower their party's AC. The true reason that you own more and more senators is that your AC increase much more than other party. In this example, you initial AC% is 80%. Lets say your party leader earns 10 gravitas, which will increase your party's AC by 20. The other party's leader, even with 0 current gravitas, earns 1 gravitas for being a statesman, which increase their party's AC by 2. Now your AC is 100 and theirs is 22. By next turn your AC% will go up from 80% to 100/(100+22)=82% Even if you spread rumor and bring his gravitas back to 0 again, their AC will still be 22. Actions that affect the party's AC will immediately change the senator% so that you can see it, such as winning battle, promotion, etc. Spread rumor, however, doesn't change it at all. I think this is a clear evidence. So instead of wasting money on spreading rumor, I think the point is to prevent other party from gaining AC.
I came to watch Legend restore order to the world. I stayed once he mentioned that Christianity's pacifism and obsession with the immaterial afterlife ruined Roman imperial culture.
Wait.. How come my next revenue goes 2000 coins when I add soldiers but his is still 6000. I followed the diplomacy tactic same. I even forced macromanni for peace for 4000 coins. Is he using hack?
If you read "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Edward Gibbon in 1776, he considered the rise of Christianity to be the primary factor of the fall of the Roman Empire, specifically the in depth mixing of church and state and therefore the decline in critical thinking when it came to national decision making that Christianity brought, as well as disrupting the traditional spirit of competition and desire for wealth and power that used to be innate to the Roman aristocracy. I know some would argue paganism isn't any more logical, but Roman Pagans still practiced philosophy. Christian Romans did not. It was the bible or blasphemy. He agreed with your assessment that Christianity was a cancer on the empire, and was very influential in the founding fathers of the United States wanting to keep religion and government separate by having no state religion, although our beyond fucked government has been messing all that up for a couple generations now.
Douche Bag, Gibbon is outdated though. Most modern historians don't view Christianity as the primary factor. Simply looking at the evidence makes Gibbon's thesis questionable. The study of philosophy continued in the later Roman empire far after Constantine came to power, so the elites still practiced the limited critical thinking that existed under paganism. Furthermore, Christianity did not make the Romans more pacifist. They still fought many some offensive wars (eg. Persian expeditions, Justinian's conquests!). Hadrian was one emperor that fortified the empire instead of expanding it, and he was not a Christian :D. There was huge competition within the Empire in the Byzantine period, many civil wars and emperors murdered. Christianity did not prevent the elites' competitiveness. There's just so much counter-evidence to Gibbon's thesis, that it really shouldn't be used to base your view on the influence of Christianity on the Romans.
Tavi I think the primary take away from Gibbon's thesis was that the mixture of religion with governance of a state is dangerous, which is rather difficult to refute due to reasons I will state below. However, "The Decline and Fall of Rome" is only one small piece of evidence of the damage christianity did in classical and medieval Europe, and a writing I only presented as a personal favorite... The nearly 1000 years of dark ages in Christian Europe after the Western Roman Empire fell, where not only did technology and knowledge of the world progress at a neglible rate, but knowledge actually regressed in many fields, is quite detrimental to your argument that allowing Christian theology to dominate the governance of states was not detrimental. Even the Byzantine Empire, while experiencing a brief resurgance under Emperor Justinian, never reached anywhere near the pinnacle of Roman power again, and in fact steadily declined. Many European nations in the middle ages were dumbfounded by the accomplishments of Rome and unable to match its technological prowess centuries later. The enlightenment, or renaissance as we call it, was begun by men who were unafraid to apply critical thinking and the scientific method to explain our reality again, even if the conclusions contradicted the powerful, and highly resistant, Catholic church. The resurgence of critical thinking brought forth by the renaissance directly lead to our modern world of free thought, as opposed to a theological world of constant repression. You can try to argue that Christianity in Europe, popularized by the Roman Empire, did not restrict free thought which was contradictory to theology, but that is patently false. This is evidenced by Galileo's life imprisonment by the catholic church for heresy, simply for proving the Earth revolves around the sun and is not the center of the universe... A discovery that would ordinarily deserve great praise, but not in a world where Christianity ruled supreme. This was in the 17th century as well, not the early middle ages. How quickly we forget. But of course, it is easy to deny all this now that we all were born in a modern world free to think how we like without overt oppression, more or less anyway... I appreciate a response from someone with some actual education and rhetorical skills, but I doubt I will keep up with this thread after this, as I certainly don't want to keep coming back to this episode to reply haha. Take care.
Galileo is always a very bad example for the oppression many want to see in christianity. He basically insulted the pope in his "dialogo" and that was the reason for his imprisonment not his scientific discoveries. The church was a huge philanthrophist in this time.
Christianity in a sense, united and preserved the Empire for a couple hundred years more. It's was already beginning to fall. Has nothing to do with religion, and that statement/theory is out of date.
You sould refresh your historical knowledge and do not base it on the work of someone who was biased agains christianity. In Rome religion and government were hand in hand since Augustus. The title Pontifex Maximus became an important and respected political position, and one of the main component of the Imperial office. By the first half of the 4th century the pagan patricians were decandet beyond imagination and lost pretty much all of the popular support. The "dark ages" are a myth, they were not dark at all, you know, Carolingian Renaissance and stuff.
the game is different with new features..I cannot find bribe character of their party and to bribe them into my party of Aurelian,where is it in the new changes?
51:20 _"Christmas"_ Hu- I'm sorry, what ? I'm gonna need the help of some cultivated people here, because i really think the game lost me there. Nevermind the fact that it is a pagan holiday : isn't Christmas supposed to have been "adopted" by Christianity a long time after the one in which the historical context of the game is set in ?
I'm definitely going to try DEI, I think I'll prefer the longer game with extra depth and realism, but I still wonder what the best vanilla game is. I've just bought Attila - it's on offer on Steam right now. Do you have a recommended mod for Attila? Thanks
S Bain the initial challenge of Western Rome in Attila is pretty fun, as it is really difficult to both avoid civil war and stave off barbarian tribes, but after you stabilize, you auto resolve to the end. The only reason I kept playing is because I love the period, especially the reign of Majorian, who I definitely feel they should have made an expansion for, with a new federate system for barbarian tribes, and political intrigue involving senatorial rivals. That's not going to happen though. We get this copy and paste instead.
Christianity doesn't favour pacifism. That's a myth caused by more modern churches trying to seem family friendly to up their attendance numbers. None of the Abrahamic religions are in the slightest bit pacifist towards either a) other religions or b) other sects of the faith. The problem Christianity caused in the Roman Empire was largely twofold. The first was one of a vicious and violent religious divide between pagans and Christians, meaning that Rome became internally more competitive and even less unified than before and thus civil strife was unending. This caused expansionist plans to cease as imperial overstretch was worked harder by a constant need to maintain internal order, not to mention the general disinterest of later Romans on military expansion due to just where the borders ended up. Scotland was worthless, Germania and Eastern Europe were of no value to them at the time, and they controlled all of the wealth of the Middle East at the time anyway. The second, and arguably more major problem, was due to the way citizenship was re-worked so that everyone in the Empire became a citizen. That meant the tax system, which had relied upon extremely high non-citizen taxes, ran into issues very quickly and the money all began to dry up. It also meant that the recruitment incentive of citizenship following 25 years of service vanished, which meant the Romans struggled to find people willing to fight and they didn't really have the money to upkeep their own troops. The lack of spare wealth also killed their version of a welfare system, which had been designed to ensure that slaves didn't end up doing all of the work but which again relied upon extremely high non-citizen taxes. That rather heavily stoked up political tensions as people had less and less of an investment in the continuation of the current government and more and more investment in the replacement that ended up taking up the burden of state charity: the Church.
Its funny that madman took legendary and his parties traits are most in green. I took hard difficulty and patri councils traits are all in red. And my revenues goes in 2000 when recruit armies. His still in 6000, as if he doesnt has to pay for the garrison. And after 3 turns not even one barbarian is attacking him. In hard difficulty both quadi and buri starts attacking my settlements. I did all the diplomacy and others same as him
linkzenos I don't even understand what you're saying. Wasn't it constantine the great who made it legal, and theodosian who made it the official religion of the empire?
linkzenos Augustus was as Pagan as it gets. You're about 3 centuries off there buddy, you are correct that Christianity directly lead to the fall of the Roman Empire and the Dark Ages though, even though you don't know why.
Legend i know u especially can cheese the game easy but then its the cool battles.. the siege of Rome would have been nice to see :( Other than that awesome videp keep them up!
"I will recommend your worthy proposal to the senate"
Legend: "I am the senate!"
lol
Golden
Howdy, I know the comment is three years old, but just want to say I love your icon.
@@shadow-monger5189 Howdy, I know the comment is 11 months old, but just want to say I love your icon.
Lol the madman actually did it. Captured Rome in the first episode.
Honestly, the Aurelian campaign has to be the most frustrating and hardest campaign I had in rome 2. You start off being at war with everyone, and Roman pretenders have full stacks within 5 turns and attack you.
Playing it after playing Attila makes it a lot more manageable since you're used to the survival style of gameplay except Roman units here are actually strong unlike Attila.
Remember Aurelian beat everyone in 5 years
To be fair Legend, the traditional pantheon of Jupiter, Juno, Minerva etc that we know as the Roman religion was a foreign adaptation. The original religion of Rome had been largely forgotten by the 2nd century BC. I think their loss of nationalism and Roman identity happened before Christianity and had more to do with being an empire, which incorporated non-Roman values. They basically stopped striving to be Cincinnatus and instead aspired to be eastern kings. Then again, I'm just an ass writing an essay in the youtube comment section.
I’d agree somewhat, For the first two centuries of the empire the roman legions still dominated and with a pantheon which kind of inspired you to die in battle like mars (or Valhalla for the Vikings) your soldiers are more willing to die in battle I would think, but then again I’m writing an essay in response to a two year old comment
@@itnotmeitu3896, I'd agree, but I'm just a retard replying to a 30 day old response to 2 yr old comment.
Actually the adaptation from the gods came from the Etruscan league I'd look into it Rome took a lot of its traditions from the Etruscans
@@itnotmeitu3896 christianity weakened the Roman empire. Made it's citizens not willing to serve in the military
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 the Roman nobility already didnt want to serve, plus the Roman army even by the end was made ip of majority Roman soldiers.There’s dozens of reasons why the empire fell
10:43 Legend is Darth Sidious. 28:59 and he loves animals 1:52 as much as allies.
blazodeolireta And your thumbnail is awesome
Anirban Bhattacharya you mean profile picture
I notice people due this alot. Say thumbnail instead of prof. pic
@@anirbanbhattacharya9185 thank you (1y delayed answer)
So I've been using some of your vocab in front of my girlfriend, and I can proudly say that she cursed "fuck me sideways" today. One of my proudest moments :')
Tavi if she uses legends vocab I feel bad for you when she gets mad
Who could refuse?
Nice. The only tw player who is worth a damn finally gets to play a faction that's worth a damn
I like the Alani though. Not the best nomadic faction in all the total war series, but still fun.
if it's the same as in rome 2, then you should build temples of neptune in each settlement in africa. if you build 4 harbours there, then the 30% wealth from maritime commerce from those temples will make you a lot of money, while providing public order at the same time. then the 3 other slots in the minor settlement for agriculture buildings, since Leptic Magna provives wealth increase to agriculture buildings.
The only historical figure legend can play as without getting accused of cheesing.
Yes. Aurelian was just that good. I will not allow any rebuttal to this statement. He is literally Majorian except he actually succeeded.
Why will you not allow it? It's just not true
Nicely done, capturing Rome in the first video. A testament to your proficiency with the game.
Hey Legend, just popped in to say I found you recently from a recommendation on the Total War Reddit, been catching up on some past series of yours, and wanted to tell you to keep up the great work! The world needs more people who are unapologetic. Keep being yourself, making awesome content, and don't worry about the downers. There are plenty of us that appreciate what you do. Cheers!
50% of the audio from this video was fucking birds squawking.
Rome wasn't conquered in 1 episode........oh wait
Am I the only one that doesn't hate the Original Rome II unit icons?
Like them too :)
I liked them in comparison to the new ones
DuckSwagington people are going to hate me for this, but I fucking love Rome 2 in general
It got better. It was awful at launch.
Rome II is a nice game. It's got potential to be great, however the problems it's faced during it's release and Development days tarnished it's reputation. Right now, best it has ever been.
This is definitely one of my hardest campaigns in rome 2… I was fighting full-capacity legions of Gallic Rome and Lusitania in like 10 turns or so, Northern Italy basically turned into a wasteland. But after you defeated all of them reconquering Gaul and Hispania should be an easy task
I believe your birbs are wanting to play too
The bird is the word.
@@Scarheart76 r/woosh
Watching in 2023 after doing a Palmyra campaign. Still love your content, glad you stopped recording in the same room as your birds lol
There wasn't really a 'roman religion", they just picked everything from different religions of the lands they occupied. The Greek culture was the most important of them all.
I had a six minute advert crop up during this video. Six. Minutes.
And I let it run, because I enjoy your content that much Legend. Have a good day. Fucker. :)
I let ads runs all day. The brother deserves it! Hard dedication and great content and being a real ass nigga 100% fuck the sjw.
Absolutely. Legend is my favourite Romosexual. :)
you have to click on add so he gets something
Legend should be the one playing for the Total War channel and just have someone narrate it. I mean, the one who played Aurelian there isn't even in Legendary difficulty yet he is struggling, losing settlements and not reclaiming much during the same number of times as Legend on Legendary difficulty... :/
Please review this before it comes out so I can get 10% off if it's worth it 👍
that bird though
YES!!!!FINALLY LEGEND PLAYS AS ROME AGAIN SOMEBODY PINCH MEEE!!!!am i the only ones whoes been dieing to see this in any way shape or form!!!!!
Why don't you give your legions any upgrades (yellow chevrons) at the beginning? I'm sure you have your own unique playstyle, but I'm genuinely curious?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but based on what I see from the game data in the memory,
the percentage of senator is determined by the amount of "accumulated influence"(AC) of a political party,
not the summation of current gravitas of all its members, and it's redistributed as
(the AC of a certain party)/(the summation of all parties' AC).
Besides, lowering someone's gravitas doesn't lower the AC of his political party.
The AC seems to decrease only when you take a political action which says " - X senators".
As for increasing AC, when someone earns gravitas, his party gains the same amount of AC (twice as much if it's provided
by the party leader). Generals can earn gravitas through winning battle by the amount of (4 - his ambition),
meaning low ambition general earns higher gravitas.(kind of weird)
The amount of gravitas change after losing a battle is (ambition*2 - 9), so high ambition general loses less gravitas.
But like I said, general losing gravitas doesn't decrease the AC of his party.
Just my two cents :)
I think you completely missed what i was trying to do. By preventing the political opponents from having gravitas I was trying to prevent them from increasing their influence so that my political party was the only one gaining any. By doing that other factions will have less % of influence since theirs is not increasing but mine is.
Man i dont even play rome II yet i knew exactly what you were doing during thst segment..
Yes I'm aware that you try to gain more senators by doing that. What I'm trying to say is you don't have to
lower their gravitas by spending money on spread rumor because their party's accumulated influence
won't decrease. I'll try to explain the mechanism:
Accumulated influence(AC) is a hidden data for each party. It is not the summation of character's current gravitas. At the beginning of a campaign, each party start with a predetermined amount of AC.
For example, let's say your faction only has two political parties. Your party starts with 80 AC, the other 20.
This determines that you own 80% senators. Spreading rumor lower your opponent's gravitas, but
this actually DOESN'T lower their party's AC. The true reason that you own more and more senators
is that your AC increase much more than other party.
In this example, you initial AC% is 80%. Lets say your party leader earns 10 gravitas, which will increase
your party's AC by 20. The other party's leader, even with 0 current gravitas, earns 1 gravitas for being
a statesman, which increase their party's AC by 2. Now your AC is 100 and theirs is 22.
By next turn your AC% will go up from 80% to 100/(100+22)=82%
Even if you spread rumor and bring his gravitas back to 0 again, their AC will still be 22.
Actions that affect the party's AC will immediately change the senator% so that you can see it, such as winning
battle, promotion, etc. Spread rumor, however, doesn't change it at all. I think this is a clear evidence.
So instead of wasting money on spreading rumor, I think the point is to prevent other party from gaining AC.
And what do you think of the dlc? Do you recommend it?
?
hekmoglu90 ? Dei what?
RoastedSabretooth he's talking about the dlc, not the mod DEI.
I came to watch Legend restore order to the world. I stayed once he mentioned that Christianity's pacifism and obsession with the immaterial afterlife ruined Roman imperial culture.
Your unreliable reputation could/can cause your allies to reject your call to arms.
Looks fun
Priceless allies my ass. Client states worthless! I love you legend lol
Wait.. How come my next revenue goes 2000 coins when I add soldiers but his is still 6000. I followed the diplomacy tactic same. I even forced macromanni for peace for 4000 coins. Is he using hack?
If you read "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Edward Gibbon in 1776, he considered the rise of Christianity to be the primary factor of the fall of the Roman Empire, specifically the in depth mixing of church and state and therefore the decline in critical thinking when it came to national decision making that Christianity brought, as well as disrupting the traditional spirit of competition and desire for wealth and power that used to be innate to the Roman aristocracy. I know some would argue paganism isn't any more logical, but Roman Pagans still practiced philosophy. Christian Romans did not. It was the bible or blasphemy. He agreed with your assessment that Christianity was a cancer on the empire, and was very influential in the founding fathers of the United States wanting to keep religion and government separate by having no state religion, although our beyond fucked government has been messing all that up for a couple generations now.
Douche Bag, Gibbon is outdated though. Most modern historians don't view Christianity as the primary factor.
Simply looking at the evidence makes Gibbon's thesis questionable. The study of philosophy continued in the later Roman empire far after Constantine came to power, so the elites still practiced the limited critical thinking that existed under paganism. Furthermore, Christianity did not make the Romans more pacifist. They still fought many some offensive wars (eg. Persian expeditions, Justinian's conquests!). Hadrian was one emperor that fortified the empire instead of expanding it, and he was not a Christian :D.
There was huge competition within the Empire in the Byzantine period, many civil wars and emperors murdered. Christianity did not prevent the elites' competitiveness.
There's just so much counter-evidence to Gibbon's thesis, that it really shouldn't be used to base your view on the influence of Christianity on the Romans.
Tavi I think the primary take away from Gibbon's thesis was that the mixture of religion with governance of a state is dangerous, which is rather difficult to refute due to reasons I will state below. However, "The Decline and Fall of Rome" is only one small piece of evidence of the damage christianity did in classical and medieval Europe, and a writing I only presented as a personal favorite... The nearly 1000 years of dark ages in Christian Europe after the Western Roman Empire fell, where not only did technology and knowledge of the world progress at a neglible rate, but knowledge actually regressed in many fields, is quite detrimental to your argument that allowing Christian theology to dominate the governance of states was not detrimental. Even the Byzantine Empire, while experiencing a brief resurgance under Emperor Justinian, never reached anywhere near the pinnacle of Roman power again, and in fact steadily declined. Many European nations in the middle ages were dumbfounded by the accomplishments of Rome and unable to match its technological prowess centuries later. The enlightenment, or renaissance as we call it, was begun by men who were unafraid to apply critical thinking and the scientific method to explain our reality again, even if the conclusions contradicted the powerful, and highly resistant, Catholic church. The resurgence of critical thinking brought forth by the renaissance directly lead to our modern world of free thought, as opposed to a theological world of constant repression. You can try to argue that Christianity in Europe, popularized by the Roman Empire, did not restrict free thought which was contradictory to theology, but that is patently false. This is evidenced by Galileo's life imprisonment by the catholic church for heresy, simply for proving the Earth revolves around the sun and is not the center of the universe... A discovery that would ordinarily deserve great praise, but not in a world where Christianity ruled supreme. This was in the 17th century as well, not the early middle ages. How quickly we forget. But of course, it is easy to deny all this now that we all were born in a modern world free to think how we like without overt oppression, more or less anyway... I appreciate a response from someone with some actual education and rhetorical skills, but I doubt I will keep up with this thread after this, as I certainly don't want to keep coming back to this episode to reply haha. Take care.
Galileo is always a very bad example for the oppression many want to see in christianity. He basically insulted the pope in his "dialogo" and that was the reason for his imprisonment not his scientific discoveries. The church was a huge philanthrophist in this time.
Christianity in a sense, united and preserved the Empire for a couple hundred years more. It's was already beginning to fall. Has nothing to do with religion, and that statement/theory is out of date.
You sould refresh your historical knowledge and do not base it on the work of someone who was biased agains christianity. In Rome religion and government were hand in hand since Augustus. The title Pontifex Maximus became an important and respected political position, and one of the main component of the Imperial office. By the first half of the 4th century the pagan patricians were decandet beyond imagination and lost pretty much all of the popular support. The "dark ages" are a myth, they were not dark at all, you know, Carolingian Renaissance and stuff.
Wait. How come my units have less total numbers. My cavalry units are just strength of 28? Is there some settings?
not to mention the AI is more aggressive now
Did they update the map...it looks different or maybe its me, havent played this in a while
45:54 I can't help but share this to my friends
the game is different with new features..I cannot find bribe character of their party and to bribe them into my party of Aurelian,where is it in the new changes?
Rome with the Christian faith was better than before...
Is any tip why we need to have a character as admiral instead general? Will he gain less gravitas per turn? Anyone?
What is the cults in this dlc about? Can you convert into christianity?
Christian cult, hilariously, is the the worst cult of them all.
51:20 _"Christmas"_
Hu- I'm sorry, what ?
I'm gonna need the help of some cultivated people here, because i really think the game lost me there. Nevermind the fact that it is a pagan holiday : isn't Christmas supposed to have been "adopted" by Christianity a long time after the one in which the historical context of the game is set in ?
Are these the normal unit cards or modded?
Dum question but can you play this on a tablet?
Can anyone tell me which is best:
1. Rome 2, Empire Divided as WRE
2. Rome 2, Imperator Augustus
3. Attila, as WRE
Thanks
1.2.3. are pretty much shit, take 4. DEI
I'm definitely going to try DEI, I think I'll prefer the longer game with extra depth and realism, but I still wonder what the best vanilla game is. I've just bought Attila - it's on offer on Steam right now. Do you have a recommended mod for Attila? Thanks
S Bain the initial challenge of Western Rome in Attila is pretty fun, as it is really difficult to both avoid civil war and stave off barbarian tribes, but after you stabilize, you auto resolve to the end. The only reason I kept playing is because I love the period, especially the reign of Majorian, who I definitely feel they should have made an expansion for, with a new federate system for barbarian tribes, and political intrigue involving senatorial rivals. That's not going to happen though. We get this copy and paste instead.
In attila you got as well a boss to defeat
attila wre on legendary hardest campaign ever
The Alani are amazing in Attila, not so amazing here I guess.
How to get updates ?
How come you're already playing?
Anyone else hear the birds in the background?
Dude do you own any parrots? I can hear them in the background.
its him clicking the mouse
Rey to make a this is total war campain with carthage
Yes they nerfed grain!
45:53 Gold. Haha.
Christianity doesn't favour pacifism. That's a myth caused by more modern churches trying to seem family friendly to up their attendance numbers. None of the Abrahamic religions are in the slightest bit pacifist towards either a) other religions or b) other sects of the faith. The problem Christianity caused in the Roman Empire was largely twofold.
The first was one of a vicious and violent religious divide between pagans and Christians, meaning that Rome became internally more competitive and even less unified than before and thus civil strife was unending. This caused expansionist plans to cease as imperial overstretch was worked harder by a constant need to maintain internal order, not to mention the general disinterest of later Romans on military expansion due to just where the borders ended up. Scotland was worthless, Germania and Eastern Europe were of no value to them at the time, and they controlled all of the wealth of the Middle East at the time anyway.
The second, and arguably more major problem, was due to the way citizenship was re-worked so that everyone in the Empire became a citizen. That meant the tax system, which had relied upon extremely high non-citizen taxes, ran into issues very quickly and the money all began to dry up. It also meant that the recruitment incentive of citizenship following 25 years of service vanished, which meant the Romans struggled to find people willing to fight and they didn't really have the money to upkeep their own troops. The lack of spare wealth also killed their version of a welfare system, which had been designed to ensure that slaves didn't end up doing all of the work but which again relied upon extremely high non-citizen taxes. That rather heavily stoked up political tensions as people had less and less of an investment in the continuation of the current government and more and more investment in the replacement that ended up taking up the burden of state charity: the Church.
I am the senate 10:48
Those birds are fucking annoying! Which dev thought it was a good idea to put annoying shit like that in the game?
Read the History Text please
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Romans are so unbalanced in this DLC
Its funny that madman took legendary and his parties traits are most in green. I took hard difficulty and patri councils traits are all in red. And my revenues goes in 2000 when recruit armies. His still in 6000, as if he doesnt has to pay for the garrison. And after 3 turns not even one barbarian is attacking him. In hard difficulty both quadi and buri starts attacking my settlements. I did all the diplomacy and others same as him
This was in early access buddy boy
where are all the TOOMAH comments?
Jesus christ the sound is so loud
why and how appear a new party?
: "...but, Legend, can you get THREEE civil wars going at once??" sorry, legend.. couldn't help myself..
Fuck yea
That redpilled moment on christianity at 47:00 gave me chills Hail the Gods!
if i would icrease the christian faith with romans i couldn't made christianity the only religion ?
Hii legend
most of all, Christian was sooo exclusive. deteriorated the core value of Rome, tolerance and diversity
dont buy this dlc waste of money just units reskined from Attila with new start date
I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong about the religion part
A lot of factual arguments on your side
As always
linkzenos I don't even understand what you're saying. Wasn't it constantine the great who made it legal, and theodosian who made it the official religion of the empire?
linkzenos Augustus was as Pagan as it gets. You're about 3 centuries off there buddy, you are correct that Christianity directly lead to the fall of the Roman Empire and the Dark Ages though, even though you don't know why.
Douche Bag It didn't lead to the fall of the empire though
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come on, man! Rome on the first episode? could you make any more boring the other lets plays of the other youtubers?!
lol pls study more roman history before speaking about this topic
Oh no, cringe historical/political rant
Legend i know u especially can cheese the game easy but then its the cool battles.. the siege of Rome would have been nice to see :( Other than that awesome videp keep them up!