Daniel Lanois Discusses the Differences Between The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
- In this clip, Producer Daniel Lanois talks about how he worked with Bono and Edge to evolve U2s sound between their albums The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby.
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When I was in middle school, I got suspended for fighting. My dad gave me "The Joshua Tree" to listen to while I weeded the property as punishment (the weeding, not the album). I didn't really listen to music before that. I don't remember the weeding, but remember that album. It was a profound redirection. It was my dad's last act of parenting. I must have listened to that tape 1,000 times growing up. I can still play "The Joshua Tree" back in my mind's ear, almost note for note (go team autism). "The Joshua Tree" got me into music ("Bullet the Blue Sky" gave me a taste for heavy music), and "Nevermind" made me want to be a musician. Today I'm retired from work, and spend my days as an amateur multi-instrumentalist.
@swissarmyknight@4306
Lovely necdote! Thx for sharing! As for me, don’t have any talent for musicianship, but I am a rabid fan, and by 87 I was 13, so the Joshua Tree is pivotal for me. It was released when I was leaving my childhood and diving into my adolescence!
Are you being subsidized by the government?
Are you an idiot?@@dparis2172
Is that ever a great story. Me, I noticed U2 was getting air-play, but what I heard was very different from the rocker stuff I was used to (The Who, Cheap Trick, AC DC, Foreigner -- all those guys). I spent a spare during school aimlessly flipping through bins in a record store when finally, oh why not. Red letter day, that. R.E.M. would join them as my most favourite bands ever, one for my head, the other for my soul.
I like remembering things like that, but your story is better.
What the hell did I just read?
You should interview The Edge, he spends a lot of time in LA and the USA
Great idea
The Edge created some good fills, but there are very few bald guitarists that can retain their value, Knopfler, Gilmour did it very well, but The Edge, no, he just wasn't that good and that knitted cap can only go so far.
He'sgot legal battles in Malibu over a big chunk of land.
@@SoloPlaticando-ts4xxweirdest comment ever haha. The Edge was great in his own way. The other ones you mentioned are like apples you can compare and contrast them, The Edge is a…idk. Pomegranate. Something quite unique but not to everyone’s tastes. Which is fine. Just don’t call one fruit good and the other bad. They’re just different.
Dave Grohl interviewed Edge.
Unforgettable Fire is an incredible album!!! Love it!
A Sort of Homecoming ' on the Album is a tragicly overlooked U2 song. The energy and the drumming on the song is epic. I feel as if I could climb Mount Everest after listening to it!😂
Unforgettable Fire was their greatest album.
U2 mega-fan here, since War. Seen them live umpteen times. (In fact, I just got back from seeing from GA their final Sphere show.) And, I must agree. Altho I understand why TJT and AB are “better” albums, THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE is forever my fav. It’s a masterpiece.
Achtung Baby and Automatic for the People were life defining albums for me in my youth. Still love them both to this very day.
“Automatic…” needs to be talked about more.
my brother from a different mother here 🎸
Yeah, same... early 90s teenage years, takes me right back.
I've listened to both albums regularly since they came out 👍😊
Got Achtung baby and Welcome to wherever you are when I was at school,still my 2 favourite albums
Everyone has their favorite U2 album, but 'Achtung Baby' just resonated with me more. It may have been for the differences in singing and style of the songs, but it was so fresh.
Not just my favorite U2 record, it's my favorite rock record of all time.
Joshua tree is the Best then achtung baby Rattle and Hum. I love Rattle and Hum. It's awesome. Their early albums are all a tie for me. All you can't leave behind is 4th for me.
Zooropa came along at just the right time in my life so that's the one for me. It's a funny thing how this works out with the classic U2 albums. Everyone will have their favourites, but there's no arguing that the entire run up to Passengers was anything less than incredible.
Boy for me. The Edge's sound on that record was amazing. Very raw, but completely real.
Achtung Baby for me too. That and the Zoo TV tour was peak U2
the Unforgettable Fire is one of my favorite albums of all time
edit) = OMG all of you MFs are right there with me - -
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Has been my favorite U2 album for 40 years. And I don't care what anyone says, I absolutely love "Elvis Presley and America".
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wow, someone else!...my fav on that album..also my fav album...can play that on repeat at work endlessly, such a beautifully crafted uncommon type song that is sung so elegantly and a tasteful tribute..you just get lost in it and never tire..@@BudSchnelker
I always seem to gravitate towards any band’s or artist’s album just before the one that went really big. No exception here. By far the most listened to U2 record from their catalog for me.
Joshua tree was their absolute pinnacle. Didn’t get any better than this, and loved their look back then!
U2 were my Beatles. Great body of work that was ever changing in sound and themes.
My 2 favorite bands.
Yep. And they still are. Soundtrack of my life.
An interview with both Bono and the Edge would be amazing.🎉
The final line is genius. Let's hope that melody comes back soon
agreed. Lets hope so.
When Ed Sheeran f***s off finally.
I’d love to hear Rick’s take on Pop. When it came out it was so different from what they had done before. I didn’t care for it much. But the older I get, the more I appreciate it as a pretty remarkable piece of art which I just didn’t get/understand at the time.
Great comment. I had the same response to Pop. But before long it became a huge favorite.
totally agree....tho the song Gone hooked me straight away on that album.....then Discotheque
"Remarkable piece of art"!? On Bono's nut sack much?
U2's last great album to me, the last time they were venturesome.
I really like Pop
Iconic albums discussed by iconic producers
to see the U2 zoo TV tour and all the Tech was life-changing. Seeing U2 work and their Incredible crew night after night. The sound was flawless. Saw this from an Opening band point of view. That album Changed the game and people weren't ready.
People weren't ready..."for the laughing gas..." ;-)
@@coda1970 hmm maybe the push. Hehe
Went to the show in San Diego right after fire came out. The lights were down and edges guitar rang out Pride in the name to start the show it was "unforgettable"
Daniel's one of the best producers out there.
Love his work with Robbie Robertson.
Pity we lost Robbie, Rick. Would've loved to see you interview him.
Who else is gonna bring you a broken arrow?
@@richardlindquist5936 What a song! What an artist! And what a producer...!
Another subject upon which hill I will die.... Bono, as a lyricist, is one of the greats.
Without a shadow of a doubt. To get to know his songs and not recognize that just shows how poor in knowledge one is.
My wife got me a Robbie Robertson album just recently and i was surprised to see Mr.Lanois produced it. We listened to it and loved it.
It’s excellent!
Living through early U2, my friends were all into U2 up through Rattle and Hum. To me, a RUSH fan, a Led Zeppelin fan, a Van Halen fan, those records weren't that interesting to me. I was a Sophomore in college when Achtung Baby came out. WOW!!!! Unbelievably great! And their follow up, Zooropa, was more great stuff. I was ready to finally interact with my friends about U2, but my friends HATED IT and moved on! We swapped roles. My friends had ZERO taste. 🙂
Nah, it's almost like two different bands. There's nothing like '80s U2 imo...
I had a similar experience. Working backwards to “discover” the band.
I can understand.I was a huge fan during their early period,but my favorites from them are Unforgettable Fire,Achtung Baby and Zooropa.
I’m with your friends. Loved early U2.
The fly is a great song. Shows the evolution in the song writing from previous albums
Love watching these interviews with Daniel Lanois!!! I remember when I was a kid in high school reading the back of the 'Unforgettable Fire' and seeing that name along with Brian Eno. Putting a face to the name and talking about how they made magic is awesome.
Daniel is a true Canadian Gem
I respect the direction they chose for Achtung Baby, but for me, the quintessential sound of U2 is Joshua Tree. The shimmering, echo-laden soundscapes of Edge’s guitars, the simple, powerful bass and drum parts propelling the songs along, and of course Bono’s passionate and anthemic vocals. It’s one of those albums that really transports you to a physical place when you listen to it
I think Achtung Baby is their best album, beginning to end, though.
Yeah, Joshua Tree is perfection.
U2 is lucky enough to have many different eras in which the sounds are radically different. I enjoy AB more than I thought now that I'm a little older.
that point about Bono being exposed to pub singers in Dublin growing up, the belt and the ache, is so important to understanding where the sound of many U2 records grew from I think too.
I loved this whole interview. ❤
I was already a U2 fan, when The Joshua Tree hit. I was 16 years old. What a glorious time in life, to discover music like that. We didn´t know, at the time, that this band was gonna go Global, with all it´s potent masculinity and rock the fuck out of here, please! I´m still all in. Cheers from Denmark.
Love Daniel's work. And his music, too! I was living in rural western Oklahoma when he released "Belladonna" and oh man I had some strange times out there hiking off path among the cacti and such with my discman playing that CD and a brain full of psilocybin. 👽 Daniel is an audio genius thru and thru. right up there with Alan Moulder and Flood for me.
Really interesting to see how the techie stuff gets weaved into the discussion and then back to the artist side of producing - great stuff!
What a great topic. Both albums are great but Achtung has it's heels deep in me after many years.
always so special to hear about their process. tksssss
These interviews are blowing my mind!!
Achtung Baby was the beginning of a new phase and All That You Can’t Leave Behind was the begining of a new phase by going back to the basics, and Songs of Innocence was the beginning of their latest phase. I hope they have at least one more starting of a new phase album left in them ..
Woah what a great get this interview is. Love the U2 content!
God I love U2
And U2 loves God…. As I do and You 2
My dad gave me cassette of The Joshua Tree when I was 10 and I was hooked. It sucks that so many people are U2 haters. I mean, c'mon; With Or Without You is a perfect song. one of my favorites to listen to as I drive toward the sunrise at 7am on my way to work. Definitely makes me feel some kinda way.
@@ghost_to_a_ghost I think people genuinely never give U2 a chance and they just don't know what they're missing
@@SexFunkMonkOh I agree 100%. They aren't my favorite band ever but they are top 20 for me and I listen to everything from Benny Goodman to Hank Williams to Chelsea Grin 👊 good music is good music 😎 (Edit: i'm listening to HARDY as i type this, for example 😂)
As much as Joshua Tree is lauded (and rightfully so), for me their crowning achievement will always be Achtung Baby. I personally think it surpassed Joshua Tree, and their growth as a band and as songwriters took an even bigger jump. Your mileage may vary.
Awesome interview
His work on writing and producing the Red Dead Redemption 2 soundtrack is criminally underrated.
I’m not a “gamer”, but man I love Red Dead Redemption 2.
Dittos x10 for both comments..imho.😂
I've told my two sons, both in their 20s and who love old music, that popular music today has no melody. Its mostly repetitive phrases and beats. Nothing else. Lanois is right, it will come back.
I hope I’m alive to see that happen...chorus melodies are easy, verse melodies harder to come by in this low attention span era of beats
"Melody cuts through all eras" 💥
Saw U2 for the very first time in 1981, playing at a festival in the Netherlands…Geleen, Pinkpop…I will never forget that show and the intensity which they came out with at 11 in the morning….just watched some footage of the Las Vegas Dome and nothing has changed…to me, next to the Stones, best band on the planet!
Just wow… thank you Rick!
U2 are an amazing band but, everyone that is behind the scenes should also be celebrated. U2 always acknowledge the people around them because without them they wouldn’t be the band they have become. What a team.
I've always felt that Aching Baby doesn't get enough credit in the way that it influenced how music is produced even today. In my mind it changed the approach as much as Sgt Pepper did
Melody is the component of music most often associated with memory.
What an interview! ❤
Write this down... BEATO will bring back rock music to the forefront as high art and denim shirts. Viva la BEATO!
Daniel is one of my heroes as a producer. Thank you for this
Daniel & Stephen Street. : )
Long live Lanois and all 1951 “babies”. Such a sonic genius. I had the great pleasure of meeting Dan her in Sydney Australia back in April 2006. He kindly signed my ACADIE vinyl LP cover and an agreed to a selfie of we two, now framed and proudly hanging above the piano. Keep it coming Rick! Love your style mate 👍🇦🇺
So glad I got my tickets to see Daniel Lanois in Montreal!!!
Even saying the album names sends shivers down the spine
My first Bass multi fx box was a Korg A4, I really miss that box. ❤️🔥
Bono’s falsetto was used on the title track of Unforgettable Fire quite nicely. ;)
Daniel Lanois is such an amazing artist. His performance on 'Sessions At West 54th' blew my mind.
More! More! Please!
I like those rugs. Been looking for a rug with that kind of design and colors
I had the opportunity to visit Slane Castle where Unforgettable was recorded. The little room and it's sound was so impressive on how they were able to knock out such a master piece. Of of my favorite albums of all time.
U2 got overplayed on KROQ back in the day. After my dad died we did a road trip through the south west. New Mexico to Arizona. Joshua Tree was the soundtrack. We needed healing. I also love Daniel Lanois. One morning I was at Cafe Tropical Daniel was there.
Man I love Daniel’s hat. Have to get one.
Had the pleasure of meeting Dan a couple of times while he was recording an album with Venetian Snares. Genuinely nice and humble guy considering his status.
Hey Rick. Come to Vegas and interview Edge.
My dream producer and band
U2 are the only band ever to sound contemporary through every single decade
Achtung Baby was risk. Fear to the unknown. The possibility to not make it after a new path has been chosen. The creative and explosive triangle that was Lanois + Flood + Eno became the structure where U2 made in Berlin's Hansa Studios, their best album.
Daniel Lanois ...LEGEND
Deviating from the rootsy Joshua Tree is a decision that still makes me remain in the U2 of the 80s.
All the best to U2 and the joy they bring to millions but for me what I need from U2 I get from the Joshua Tree and the earlier albums.
Love the hat! Way cool!
Incredible! This is why I am here…
Could you please please please cover the Teatro sessions with willie and Emmy Lou
Daniel Lanois is musician in his own right. I had an album of his. He worked with other musicians beside U2, I believre, actually fairly well known in the 80's. A very talented man, as a musician, a great voice, too, as well as a sought after producer in the 80's.
When is The Edge gonna join the conversation?
Idl love to hear you interview Brian Eno
Great conversation , !!!
Does U2 not have anything to say any more?
Gracias 🫂
The full Lanois interview is one of your best. Lanois is intelligent with many stories to tell. Imagine what you could learn if you had more time!
Landois is so compelling with his soft delivery.
I love blues and I wish today's blues guitarists would be half as inventive and open as Edge instead of sticking to the tried and tested from past decades. Every music legend that ever was brought something unique and fresh to the table.
I love Lanois work on “Sling Blade”.
I met Daniel Lanois once. He was a complete gentleman.
Totally off topic but BlackBerry Smoke has a new album out and would be really interesting from production to songwriting, influences, etc.
Great interview and sure a very important man but why not go to the source? The Edge is the interview you need. I mean how many decades of just great music this guy has put together. And despite Larry being out with an injury they are all four still together packing in the Sphere in Las Vegas. Incredible! Plus they are for sure going back into the studio very soon for who knows maybe their last album as a group (they’re not getting any younger), such an important interview!
Their album is mostly done. Larry just needs to recover from his most recent surgery to do more studio work. Now if we can get Edge to ever stop tinkering... September is a strong rumor.
Interview Flood. That would be awesome!
Daniel Lanois is a legend. I highly suggest reading his biography SOUL Mining. BTW He's Canadian.
Hey Rick, what about interviewing Edge? That is going to be very interesting
The U2 discussion is fascinating, especially his thoughts on working with Edge. Not enough time here, but I have would also like to hear Daniel’s thoughts on Trixie Whitley.
Oohhhhhh this is great
Session stories are the best. All these back stories from 30 plus years ago make my life.
Love it.
I recall having a conversation with my sister in whichj she was trying to tell me why The Stones are better than The Bealtes. And don't get me wrong The Stones are great. But for me the reason this is not true, is because every single record The Stones makes sounds like they always did, its like AC/DC. Same every time, but still great. The Beatles however were ona journey, and their early stuff is completely different to where they ended up a few years later, which for me was a dramatic improvement.This for me is one reason why U2 are not just a good band, but are genuinely greats of the industry - one of a very very small bunch of extremely successful and yet, changing in terms of style, bands. For me this sets these few bands apart from all the others. It is not commonplace to sell 10 million plus copies of an album. But to do this with multiple records that literally sound like they are from different bands is a far rarer achievement (and yeah you can obviously recognise the vocals, but you know what i mean). I would put U2 in with The Beatles in that regard, and there really are not many others you could put in this group.
Surprised he didn't mention Steve Lillywhite who mixed several songs on Joshua Tree and co-produce and mixed a few songs on Achtung Baby.
I'd love to see lanois and eno as well did a job together for u2's nw album.
Bello/Magnifico.❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥🌹🏆
Unforgettable Fire is simply astounding. So many styles and genres were explored on this record. I really love 'Elvis Presley and America' which is a sort of experimental, trippy and hypnotic journey that builds into this great crescendo - it doesn't sound like a normal song and that's why it's brilliant.
"Joshua Tree" is peak U2 for me.
Danny produced a demo (one song) by a Toronto band I was with back in the late 70s. He was working out of his Hamilton studio at the time. The demo ended up being not much to write home about. But then, the band wasn't that great either.
I remember he had the drums all crammed up in this little booth thingy, which was weird and uncomfortable. Didn't make for a very good drum sound either.
Footnote: A few years later, I took his sister Jocelyn - who was a bass player in a Toronto band - to a Springsteen concert. I don't think it was her kind of music. Lol
I can definitely say Lanois’ influence in producing has had a huge impact on my life . There are several albums he produced, I consider essential listening: U2 (obviously- their best work , IMO) Robbie Robertson , Chris Whitley ‘s debut album, - Lanois’ way of painting sonic landscapes is brilliant
Lanois did not produce Living with the Law by Chris Whitley, he just played some guitar on it for Malcolm Burn, the producer. Although I love that album, Chris Whitley fucking hated it and completely reprised it on Weed.
Cheers,
Alan Tomlinson
The theme from Mahogany is unbelievable
It's mad how people diss Edge for relying on FX but worship Tom Morello for Over relying on FX. They diss Edge for relying on delay - but no other guitarist for using distortion on every song.
Yes, some people say Edge is not a good guitarist, but nobody comes close to replicating what Edge does….
@@anaroselamccullough2493 Edge plays all the guitar - except the occasional rhythm guitar by Bono - plays the piano - does all the backing vocals. Basically if it's on a U2 album and its not drums or bass or Bono - it's Edge.
Yes
Two amazing albums. I lean more to the Joshua Tree being their greatest. Basically because to me it sounds a little more timeless than Achtung. Being someone into instruments and production etc....I "hear" effects on Achtung and it distracts me a little. Like..."there's a phaser!" Of course Joshua has effects too but to me they aren't the focus. They seamlessly create the mood rather than being the center of attention themselves.
And I also thing Achtung has just a little bit of filler. Ultra Violtet and Acrobat don't do it for me. They're nice songs but I think Achtung suffered a bit from the CD era where bands were almost expected to fill an album up to 60 minutes. Having said that, Joshua tree was only 5 minutes shorter, so there you go. I just don't think there is a single weak song on Joshua. Some might argue Trip Through Your Wires, but they'd be wrong. In an album full of very very serious and heavy material that song comes in like a bright burst of sunshine exactly in the right place of the album to just give you a little bit of a reprieve before plunging right back into the mood of the last 3 songs. Plus the triplet feel is another thing that makes it stand out as not only good, but one of the best songs on the album. My opinion of course.
But I do get why many people like Achtung better. Sonically it is more interesting and for sure much different. They really took a lot of ideas from the world of hip hop and dance music of the day and used the guitar to create their version of a "modern" record.
Ultraviolet?! 😮
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@@mdmomof7yeah....just a bit boring to me. Sounds a bit flat the whole way through.
I do respect Rick went full Canadian tuxedo for a Canadian guest 🫡
Big jump from Fire to Tree to Baby.
That's a nice room you guys are in. What is that place?
Correct me if I’m wrong, I think it’s Lanois studio.
Lanois! Here is what is!