I can echo a lot of these sentiments having gone through the Designlab bootcamp. I was also initially a computer science major in college until I switched to time arts.
Hey Josh- I’ve really appreciated your videos, they’ve been super helpful! I’m in the foundations bootcamp working on high fidelity stuff at the moment. My experience with it so far is getting burnt out, pushing it aside and then coming back a few weeks later and picking up 🤦🏻♀️ I wanted to check in and see how your Reddit projects have been going and if that’s been a good way to dip your toe in the water outside of Avocademy. I’m considering something similar with some small business owners I know instead of doing CJ- especially since they revoked the refund policy.
I totally feel you on burning out, I think it's difficult for that not to happen at some point. The reddit project went well, got a written testimonial out of it. I only did one project though, because I decided to do some webflow courses to actually start to learn how to use it well. I think overall, the Reddit approach is sound though!
Hey Jansley, as always your videos are detailed and well informed. I wanted to add that ux has become a major fad but there are full inclusive videos on UA-cam- like you discussed. But further, there is freeCodeCamp that takes the search out of things for you. They collect videos from the web then share full cert programs/learning paths to help people achieve goals for free. I highly recommend this to anyone looking to go the free route but wants to avoid the information paralysis.
Wild man. I’m just starting CJ this week and I also took Mizko’s course … my start was with Gary Simon’s DesignCourse, which was cool but definitely a scratch on the surface. Hope the search is going well for you my friend!
Did you also do the avoacademy foundations course? Just wondering if I could skip it if I just go through Mizkos course instead since it’s more affordable than foundations
Idk about the foundations - I didn't take it. My hunch, after hearing about the course and interacting with some foundations grads, is that you could take Mizko's and skip foundations for sure.@@cesarguerrero1211
I should be done with my boot camp in August. I don't think I'll be doing CJ, I should be able to get some local work and I think I may also go into coding so I can make my own apps. Don't see the experience I get from foundations getting me a job which is disappointing.
If you can get some local work, then that would be great! Only thing you may want to explore is figuring out how to do a collaborative project with a few people. I've gotten multiple questions about collaboration in interviews.
I know with Avocademy CJS you have to do all those applications to get a refund of you don't land a job. Would you say you meet the criteria to request a refund or are just interested in continuing with the program until you land job job? Awesome vids of your process and I hope you land a position soon.
A couple people told me that CJ revoked that job guarantee. I don't know if it's true though, I haven't looked into it. I did not meet the criteria. There was one month where I really slacked and didn't submit many apps. I'm just pushing forward at this point. Thank you!
As a recent Avocademy Foundations grad, I can confirm that they recently revoked the job guarantee for CJ. They said it was because students were fabricating the requirements, like applying for a bunch of non-UX-related jobs each month just to meet the quota (for example). I'm even more hesitant to spring for CJ than I was before. 😅
@@jansleyrealJob guaranteed was removed that's correct. It's mostly because there are also less jobs out there to apply too. Those students who enrolled previously before the change are still okay meaning job guaranteed will still be in effect only for them. If you missed a month unfortunately you will owe them money. Even if you didn't get a job. So get ready to pay that 5k. There's some payment plans you could do though. That's what I did so I can pay off the debt slowly since I can't afford it all in one go.
@@jansleyrealWhen it came to the job guarantee, I was told I started too late on the job search even though I met all the requirements. But the thing is, its not my fault CJ projects get delayed (either by the client or mentor approving our work) so by the time I started the job search, it was already too "late". I felt they screwed me out of the guarantee which they heavily advertise back then
There is a fairly strict timeline, yes. I believe they will work with you for 6 months during the job hunt part, but sometimes will extend it as long as you submit the required number of monthly applications
If you enjoy it, then yes! If you don’t enjoy it, then probably not. I suggest people try a cheaper course or UA-cam crash course to see if they even like it.
I can echo a lot of these sentiments having gone through the Designlab bootcamp. I was also initially a computer science major in college until I switched to time arts.
Oh no way, so you switched to huh? Look at us getting back into tech haha
@@jansleyreal jansley it is only worth it whether they decide to take action in their own hands
Hey Josh- I’ve really appreciated your videos, they’ve been super helpful!
I’m in the foundations bootcamp working on high fidelity stuff at the moment. My experience with it so far is getting burnt out, pushing it aside and then coming back a few weeks later and picking up 🤦🏻♀️
I wanted to check in and see how your Reddit projects have been going and if that’s been a good way to dip your toe in the water outside of Avocademy. I’m considering something similar with some small business owners I know instead of doing CJ- especially since they revoked the refund policy.
I totally feel you on burning out, I think it's difficult for that not to happen at some point. The reddit project went well, got a written testimonial out of it. I only did one project though, because I decided to do some webflow courses to actually start to learn how to use it well. I think overall, the Reddit approach is sound though!
Have you tried applying for contracting roles ?
Hey Jansley, as always your videos are detailed and well informed.
I wanted to add that ux has become a major fad but there are full inclusive videos on UA-cam- like you discussed.
But further, there is freeCodeCamp that takes the search out of things for you. They collect videos from the web then share full cert programs/learning paths to help people achieve goals for free.
I highly recommend this to anyone looking to go the free route but wants to avoid the information paralysis.
Does freeCodeCamp have UX related curriculums? I thought it was just development.
Happy to see your process Jansley!
Thanks so much Andrea! :)
Wild man. I’m just starting CJ this week and I also took Mizko’s course … my start was with Gary Simon’s DesignCourse, which was cool but definitely a scratch on the surface.
Hope the search is going well for you my friend!
Thanks Nathanael, have fun in CJ, and good luck to you too!
Did you also do the avoacademy foundations course? Just wondering if I could skip it if I just go through Mizkos course instead since it’s more affordable than foundations
Idk about the foundations - I didn't take it. My hunch, after hearing about the course and interacting with some foundations grads, is that you could take Mizko's and skip foundations for sure.@@cesarguerrero1211
You guys had REAL-LIFE client projects?? That's nice! I was in Designlab UX Bootcamp but just left it but they don't have real-life projects...
Yep we did, definitely helped with learning what the communication process looks like :)
I should be done with my boot camp in August. I don't think I'll be doing CJ, I should be able to get some local work and I think I may also go into coding so I can make my own apps. Don't see the experience I get from foundations getting me a job which is disappointing.
If you can get some local work, then that would be great! Only thing you may want to explore is figuring out how to do a collaborative project with a few people. I've gotten multiple questions about collaboration in interviews.
@@jansleyreal thanks so much for the advice!
Hello jansley, thank you for sharing. Do you think you could land a job without doing the CJ program?
Sure! But I think you would need to find a way to work on collaborative projects with other people
@@jansleyreal Ok. Why is that important?
I mentioned in the video, but I have been asked multiple times about collaboration in interviews.
@@jansleyreal I appreciate this a lot. I’ll look for some freelance projects cuz CJ is just too expensive. Thanks again.🥑🥑
I know with Avocademy CJS you have to do all those applications to get a refund of you don't land a job. Would you say you meet the criteria to request a refund or are just interested in continuing with the program until you land job job? Awesome vids of your process and I hope you land a position soon.
A couple people told me that CJ revoked that job guarantee. I don't know if it's true though, I haven't looked into it. I did not meet the criteria. There was one month where I really slacked and didn't submit many apps. I'm just pushing forward at this point. Thank you!
As a recent Avocademy Foundations grad, I can confirm that they recently revoked the job guarantee for CJ. They said it was because students were fabricating the requirements, like applying for a bunch of non-UX-related jobs each month just to meet the quota (for example). I'm even more hesitant to spring for CJ than I was before. 😅
@@jansleyrealJob guaranteed was removed that's correct. It's mostly because there are also less jobs out there to apply too. Those students who enrolled previously before the change are still okay meaning job guaranteed will still be in effect only for them.
If you missed a month unfortunately you will owe them money. Even if you didn't get a job. So get ready to pay that 5k. There's some payment plans you could do though. That's what I did so I can pay off the debt slowly since I can't afford it all in one go.
@@jansleyrealWhen it came to the job guarantee, I was told I started too late on the job search even though I met all the requirements. But the thing is, its not my fault CJ projects get delayed (either by the client or mentor approving our work) so by the time I started the job search, it was already too "late". I felt they screwed me out of the guarantee which they heavily advertise back then
hey bro , I wanted to see your portfolio
joshsimonsdesign.com
Is there a time limit for the career jumpstart program?
There is a fairly strict timeline, yes. I believe they will work with you for 6 months during the job hunt part, but sometimes will extend it as long as you submit the required number of monthly applications
Is it worth getting into UX bootcamp if i have no degree?
If you enjoy it, then yes! If you don’t enjoy it, then probably not. I suggest people try a cheaper course or UA-cam crash course to see if they even like it.
Are you an affiliate of Avocademy?
I have an affiliate link, yes! But they are not paying me to do videos about them. I just share what I feel.
Now, did you find a job?