Keychron K3.. I sold it for MX Keys Mechanical instead
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2023
- After 3 months of trying, I just couldn't keep using this Keychron as a productivity tool.
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Instant sub. No filler. No crap. Honest. Great editing and production. You're going places with this style!
100% agree, I read this comment 30 seconds in and was thinking the same thing 😆
absolutely same here!
He only captioned the video as sold keyboard, but he actually does a review with it :D
This is what MKBHD was like in the old days
+1 , reminded me of how UA-cam used to be a few years ago.
Man, that was marvelous experience watching you 😄 Humor, voice, video quality, scenario - all top notch
I love your video style, the way you speak, present the points, your humour - thanks keyboard-review-binge that led me here :D
New subscriber… I absolutely loved this video. No BS, honest review and funny too. Can’t wait to check out more of your videos my friend.
I just found your channel and I love how genuine you are. Subscribed!
I also purchased the MX Keys Mechanical using your affiliated link as a way to show my support. :)
Man I really loved the way you made this video... love it!
You are a very funny guy and I love the way you explained the whole things including technical details... Keep up the good work and congratulation for your work!
Thank you and See you soon!
Thanks for the video. I just picked up the MX Mechanical full size today, and it is fantastic!
Love your energy. Thanks for this video, I'm going for the MX keys 🥰
I love how genuine this is! No crap... small mistakes and all....
loving these vids and your energy
love the honesty! i have the same problem with keychron K2, I loved it, but my typing speed was low, so, sold it cheap. now back with my apple keyboard. planning on mx keys :) . Thanks for your video.
First video I’ve watched from you, but loving your style mate. Like the no nonsense approach and the fact that you are not really trying to put on a show, but focusing more on the content itself. Keep it up! Also - I love the Logitech MX keys mechanical! (I have the full version for work)
It pisses me off (perhaps irrationally) when UA-camrs review products but don't research their gripes and things they dislike. It's fine if you couldn't do something or didn't want to do it, but at least spend 15 minutes before spending hours on a video and provide some perspective on the issues you mentioned and how all of them can be fixed
new sub. I love the no crap, realistic honesty. Just being real. Nice.
I never typed on k3 before, but i’d probably hate typing on low profile switches. Everything is about preferences; glad you found yours
I completely agree with everything you said about the keycrhon. Very hard to type on. The Logitech is so satisfying. I love the sound and feel of the keys.
Keep doing the work u doing great man i love the vids of yours 👍❤
My scenario is exactly same, I had a good experience with apple magic keyboard and I wanted to connect with multiple devices so purchased mx keys and it worked so well then I broke it.
After lot of youtube videos and pouring good reviews, I tried keychron k8 pro and nuphy air 75. They are good but I get typos, and a lot of connectivity issues, k8 pro's height is an issue to me, It cannot be used without a palm rest. I dint like either of these keyboards.
I was trying to buy mx mechanical keyboard for the last few months. But, every review in internet makes me double think that decision.
Your video gave me the confidence to purchase it and my typing experience is back to normal. I am subscribing to your channel as a token of appreciation :)
Keep doing this!
Hey! Did you end up buying it? If so, how has it been?
I'm kind of on the same boat, I use an apple magic keyboard for work and its great, small, light and I'm faster and make less mistakes on it. For my gaming PC I have a mechanical keyboard with cherry MX browns but I wanted to get a single keyboard for both PCs and was torn on what to get because the mechanical gives me fatigue after a while, and the height isn't desirable, and the apple magic keyboard is great but for gaming not so much and it can't even be paired to more than one device.
Came across this video truly love the review. Instant sub … funny and informative 👍
Just what I needed to watch. Cheers!
I love people being honest, or actually know the difference between when they feel it and what people telling them to feel
Solid review- excellent work bro
I did almost the same (minus purchasing the Keychron K3) went to pick up a mx keys and discovered the mx mechanical mini - it's amazing. I can't imagine not having this keyboard.
In the clip you showcase promo material of the K3 pro, while you've been using K3. Coincidentally, I too had this Keychron K3, and was hyped over it when I ordered it, but when it arrived I had the same problem you describe - it wasn't fast and accurate typing experience. I attributed it to the shape of the keys themselves (they have a substantial concave compared to most keyboards), and the ridges between keycaps are bigger too (effectfively making the keycap smaller).
However, I've changed it to K3 pro, which has keycap shape similar to the logitech keyboards, and it's all very good experience with this one. I was totally digging the extremely well visible RGB lighting of the Keychron K3, though.
100% agree, 100% same experience. Bought a K3 with many recommendations. Love the ethos / idea behind it. Love the build quality and feel. I can't type on it to save my life. I go from 107 wpm on my Apple Magic keyboard or my MacBook Pro keyboard to around 40 wpm on the Keychron. I can't write code on it without making constant indentation and spacing mistakes, even in a really helpful IDE.
Going to check out the MX Keys Mechanical because of your video. Cheers. Have a sub.
Probably has something to do with the travel distance. The travel distance for those apple keyboards is ~1mm. The travel distance for any of the switches that come with the K3 is ~3mm(with ~1.7 pre-travel before the switch activates).
However, the MX Keys uses the same switches as the K3, so that can't be the issue. My guess is that Samuel was much faster on the MX Keys because it's flatter than the spherical key key profile on the K3.
@@TheStoic84 I think it's the width. The K3 has an extra line of keys along the right edge (Page up/down/home/end, etc). This makes all the keys a little more narrowly spaced. If I reflexively reached for the "P" key, I'd most often just hit the space between "P" and "[" because of muscle memory. The actual travel distance of the K3 wasn't bothering me at all; I was just making so many errors on it that it destroyed my flow completely.
I went from a low profile apple magic keyboard to a keychron K8, a real chunky keyboard with switches that have 4mm of travel, and... yeah... it took a while to get adjusted to it. It took a few months at least, but right now im about equal with the keychron than i am with the magic keyboard. And I wouldn't give up the keychron because its just more fun to type on.
any more development after getting the keyboard?
Honest review. Good job!
wow...., that was the best hardware review i ever watched....
I'm currently looking for a keyboard and also realized I type fast on mac book keyboard .This video helped a lot .
I've been using a k3 for 18months now, and I totally agree with you. The most annoying part is the sleep mode. It's very inconsistent and it often takes too long to wake up, enough to disrupt my day to day tasks
Thank you! Couldn't decide between those two keys.
What are you settling on? No joke, you should try doing a typing speed test before purchasing. Typing a solid 20wpm less with less accuracy adds up quickly.
@@thesamuelnam I am looking for a good keyboard for my office, where I dont sit alone. I thought the MX mini is too loud and the K3 is the better option. But after your review, I will buy the MX.
Might have to check out that MX keys keyboard. Looks great quality.
I use it for design and the K3v2 looks and feels great, the plastic keys feels kind of fabric/rubbery. I tried the MX mechanical but the fact I can use the K3v2 for both mac and windows helped me choose
also it's much cheaper!
MX Mechanical also works for Mac and Windows though. I've been using it that way all along.
I went through a couple of mechanicals, switches and keycaps before I realized a lighter tactile + XDA profile keycaps suited me best. I'm not a particularly fast at typing or anything but the difference between OEM or cherry vs. XDA was noticeable, even more so with the lighter switches. In the end what works for you is what's best, glad you found something you like.
I have similar issue, and I was wondering if that's maybe caused by OSA profile, now I know I should try XDA before giving up on Keychron, thank you for sharing.
@@KrystianLewandowski there are other profiles out there, definitely worth trying things until you find what suits you best.
The MX Keys Mechanical has always been my favorite but the MX Keys mini is just perfect for me.
Subscribed!!!! Miss these types of UA-camrs....
love the humour and I watched the entire video and I am buying an mx mechanical on Black Friday
Nooooo wait! I have a video coming up on Thursday with another keyboard. You want to watch it before buying mx keys.
Love it! I don’t care about how the keys sound or colors or anime women or random stuff. It’s all about the typing experience. The K3 (non-pro) was also giving me carpal tunnel.
I use the Mechanical Keys Mini as well on the go
New sub. Loved the straight to the point video 🎉
I loved this video! Perfect everything. Lets gooooo!
I have the Mx Keys, just bought the Keychron while watching your video. Just when you said it SUCKED the payment went through... Lol
Just to point out for some folks, being slower, might be a benefit if it allows us to think a bit more before typing. (no not for everyone)
Great honest review!!
love your humour and video style! subbed from the x100v vid and enjoying this one :) *looks at my stack of keychrons
Thanks for the support and advice on good x100 mods. There’s so many once you dig in.
Thanks, was kinda on the fence wondering if I should pull the trigger and you’ve convinced me not to. 😂 You’re also hilarious. Subbed for the jokes!!
It's probably the keycaps. Keychron K3 has rounded keycaps, so if you are used to hitting the edges of the keys, the large grooves in-between will punish you for it. As for the sleep-wake issue, I have heard that it is a problem for many K3 users, but I bought the next-gen K3 Max and the issue seems to be fixed.
this honestly a great review for the mx mechanical
Great vid mate, keep it up
Totally agree, I switched from MX keys to Keychrone and it sucked, most annoying thing for me was the Bluetooth connectivity, was unusable
You have a really good point. Typing speed and accuracy is what should matter the most and not how it sounds like since we're all wearing headset anyways...
Until you have someone else in the room or during a call and the blue switches sound like a construction site noises when they have a headache. Not that it matters for this video, but noise can be important
yeah if you work in an office sure but for home PC its less of a problem. Though if you play online games and your microphone pics it up then yeah thats also a problem @@bleack8701
I have been crying multiple times this morning watching the videos emerge from Gaza, Palestine. 0:15 made me laugh like a kid. Thank you!
same bro, was really tough watching videos from October 7 too...
This is it. Thanks for the review man. Last few days I was going back and forth between keychron, nuphy and akko and while almost sold on keychron, I came across your video. Yes logitech is not cute, I’d love to have one of those nuphys but the moment you mentioned bluetooth and battery life, it was game over. I immediately ordered logitech without giving a second thought. Apparently it doesn’t come with high quality cool caps and ages like a meth head, but function comes first. Thanks again!
LOL GOLD LUCK with Keychron warranty and support
First and the last brand i will buy
Honest review thank you, I’ll pick one Logitech mechanical
Always loved the Apple magic keyboard, got the mx keys and now looking for a different one, since i really have trouble with the key longevity. Thanks for reviewing, still sceptical about the mx mechanical, but considering it
It's the travel distance.. Once you get used to those thin keyboards, MX keys, laptop keys, etc. Normal keyboards just have way too long of a travel.
Instant Sub. Great content. Keep growing!🎉
I did it the other way around.. Came from apple wireless keyboard (pre-magic) and lenovo trackpoint keyboard, the goal was to replace both and kept only one on my desk. In hindsight I should've probably try the mx keys first but caught a mech fever.
mx mech: seamless connection with flow, faster wake up, BUT not hot swappable. No cable mode but I don't really care about this since I already on unifying and bolt ecosystem, overall it is too expensive if I had to bought it myself.
K3: hot swappable, affordable, great even for the price. It needs some time to wake up but I can get used to it since once it wake up it wake up while mx mech sleeps a lot. My only gripe is that it's only BT or cable mode, no 2.4 rf..
Holy shit! I thought it was just me. I literally make a TON of typing mistakes on the Keychron K3 v2. I thought it was just a me problem until I purchased the K3 Pro. The typing experience between the two keyboards are just LEAGUES apart. I can type without worrying about making mistakes on the K3 Pro.
Had exactly the same experience. At first, I thought that I had ruined my typing habits by years of using small laptop keyboards, but, at the same time, I had no issues with regular full-size Logitech desktop keyboards. The Keychron was the issue.
I liked the K3 but the dealbreaker for me was the battery dying after just one year and having no option to replace it; and this seems to be a know problem for all K3 Ultra-slim models.
Feel it. I'm using the MX mechanical now. I had also the MX Keys before like you and I loved this Keyboard. But I love it more to type with the mechanical and I'm faster the with the MX Keys. It makes me more fun to use the MX mechanical
100%%%% More fun with 5 - 10 wpm speed loss. I'll just lose the 5 - 10wpm and stick with the fun keyboard haha. I'm testing linear switches with another keyboard, stay tuned for a review soon.
Mx mechanical is very nice, but the 5 s to turn off backlight is completely destroying my experience. What about you? I haven’t found a way to get rid of it (just using the cable connected to the keyboard, but I don’t know if it damage the battery).
let's gooo!! good job man.. Thanks!
Nice review, have a sub. I actually quite like this keyboard - but as a programmer my requirements are for precision and a much heavier reliance on things like tabs and symbols rather than speed so it suits me fine. I'm also a gamer so I have an inherent distrust of anything wireless, so running it over bluetooth never even ocurred to me. Finally, as a Brit our options are much more limited with keyboards as we have our own special layout and I cant unprogram 30 years of expecting the return key to be double height and using a US layout drove me absolutely mental.
I really really like the Apple keyboard a lot, but it's always a bit off if you aren''t using a Mac - and i'm primarily Windows or Linux.
Have tried the even smaller keyboards, but end up wanting to smash them against the wall as function keys and arrow keys are a cut too far and completely essential for writing code unless you are some kind of nutcase that does everything in Vim
Edit: One big downside for me that it's really difficult to source Low Profile keycaps, especially in a UK layout. The ones included aren't bad but feel a bit silky and would prefer some nicer ones with a bit more texture to them and in a couple of extra colours so I could pick out important keys for like WASD and Blender in a different tone as am not a touch typer and visual cues help my fingers land on the right place.
So what did you choose? Keychron k3?
@@Benson.BereTV obviously yes, brownish switches
I've had the K3 for about two years now and it's great, but now my battery only lasts like 3 hours and I am using it with a cable. No issues with that, but I have a need to work on MAC and Windows and the fact that I need to switch it to a certain setting is irritating me as well as the fact that the bluetooth is slow. Thinking of getting the MX Keys Mech mini for the bluetooth, no manual switch between MAC & Windows and the Flow pair up with my MX Master mouse. This review helped a lot thanks man!
Great review! I might have the same problem as you. Also, for some reason, my wrist started hurting using this keyboard (PS, this is personal experience, not a claim)
same! im coming from keychron, also a nuphy but truly enjoy the MX keys mechanical. nuphy a close 2nd but truly on preference
not gonna lie your videos are good and engaging
Mate, just grabbed an mx mechanical mini to replace my K3 with a dying arrow key because of your video!
It makes sense. Longer travel distance per button = slower typing speed. Short travel keyboards, like the magic laptop keyboard, will always be faster than mechanical keyboards.
different strokes for different folks, completely makes sense. I have the same problem with the system76 launch keyboard due to the abnormal layout. I love it to death in terms of build quality, how it looks, its functionality, it's just I -cannot- type on it's layout without screwing up all the time.
I don't have the K3, because I don't like low-profile keyboards, but I have the K2 and the K8. I haven't judged my speed vs. other keyboards, but it seems to be fast enough. The one thing I'd point out is that you don't have to have it fall asleep. It can stay on. There's a hotkey sequence to make it always-on.
I've been eyeballing this keyboard. Will have to try it out.
Great video and be sure to thank your adorablely cute "fat" baby for us.
This is great! Instant sub and like
Sounds like you need linear switches. What it seems like is that you haven’t gotten used to the long keypresses and something like a keyboard with gateron baby raccoons would significantly increase typing speeds due to its light springs and long pole.
Solid video 🎉
I was looking for this kind of video.
Im not a "Keyboard- Guy!" but I need and want a good Keyboard.
I was thinking about a Keychron Keyboard, but now I ordered the Logitech Keyboard. Thanks man!
How’s your experience? Mine is frustrating with the backlight 5 s duration. I’m just trying to overcome it 😢
I went through many different keyboards. I eventually ended on Keychron. I like it the best.
Great video, just subscribed!
I didn't like the keychron keyboards either, but I am happy with the logitech g915 tkl for my macbook! 😃
I couldn't agree more. I have the Keychron K2V2 and I type so much slower with tons of errors. What is especially annoying is having the "end" "home" buttons to the right by shift and return, so I have a tendency to end up at the end of my document rather than type in a semicolon.
I really, really want to like this keyboard but I just can't get used to the keys or the layout, so it has to go.
Hello! I love the content. Would you be able to do a desk setup video or maybe tech items under $50! Anything electronics haha. Just an idea. I love the idea of switching between mechanical keyboards. The Keychron Lineup is amazing. I love how thin this is and how thin it is.
Thanks for the ideas~ I've got so many scripts I need shot and edited. I'll do something like that just before Christmas or something.
@@thesamuelnam Thanks!
I have the same issue with typing speed with my K1v4. And I concluded the problem is the keycaps. They feel smaller to the finger, and they have strange edges, not allowing fingers to be dragged from one key to the other.
Using MX mechanical mini for mac for almost a year. No regrets.
I had the same experience when I started to type on a mechanical Keyboard. I felt slow on my Nuphy Air 96, so I used the MX Keys for productive purposes and trained typing on my Nuphy. It took some time, but I got faster at typing with my Nuphy. Still want to try out the MX Mechanical, though.
Exactly the same here. I tried it for 3 weeks now and I just couldn't get warm with it. Just wrapped it up to send it back, back to the MX Keys Mini
I have the K3 for a while now. Typing sucks but it's nice, small and functional.
Hey what is the name of this chair you're sitting on in the video?
What type of switches did you get with mx mechanical?
You pretty much nail my complaints with the K3 and I’m scouring UA-cam to convince myself not to get the MX Mechanical 😅
My first kb was a k8 pro from keychron. Second time I tried to customize it, it wouldn't turn on. Now I always go for the budget stuff while my keychron lies dead in my drawer. A lot of great options besides keychron.
I had a similar experience with the K3, I believe my issue was the fact that the rows of keys are stepped like a staircase on the K3 (angled stems). I've got a NuPhy Air75 V2 now, and I type much faster on it. All of the keycap top surfaces are in plane. This seems to be the case with the MX Keys Mechanical. Maybe that's why you're much faster on it.
thanks for your review! very helpful as i'm also looking at this model and have also been slowed down by other mechanical keyboards. what switch color does your mx keys mechanical mini have?
You're welcome~ They're also brown switches.
the faster keyboard in world to type wihout any doubt, is a split ortolinear low profile, let´s say maybe a corne is a great option, but is not easy coming from a clasic keyboards, also depends on the set up, to me is hard to use it since have a graphic table that cost me half of the desk, but for fast type, split orto is the key
Exact review I needed. I am very fast with the magic keyboard and benchmark any new one I buy against it. I tried the logitech pebble keyboard, but the key spacing is non-standard so that's a no-go. I pretty much just want a magic keyboard that can pair and easily switch among two devices. Will try your rec...
Check out my latest video on the Nuphy.
I had the exact same experience with the K3. I TRIED for months to get used to it, but I noticed my typing speed and error rate was just so much worse! Switched to the apple magic keyboard, and I haven't looked back.
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Very good review. I sold my Keychron k6 because of the anoying RGB. Yes you can find a triple key combination online to lock it but everytime the keyboard is turned off you start all over. that alone is a no go (If not giving away one of the most importand keys for a rarely used function is). I also was massively annoyed by the bluetooth standby delay. i frequently was missing the first 3 Letters of a word... I now have an epomaker th66 which does this better. Although It takes even longer to wake up it only goes to standby after something like 15 or 30min. that doesnt annoy me because it rarely happens and when i am away longer i know it and press a key to wake it up.
you might want to get lighter linear switches. the thing is with mechanical keyboards is customizability. my main is a 61split spacebar with multiple switch types. letter keys are light tactiles, numbers & arrows clicky and layer modifiers are very light linears(for my pinky). I use a 3rd layer for macros, remapped my CAPS as a 3rd layer switch. the difference of sound and feel of different switches makes it easier for me to navigate my keyboard and thus faster productivity with less mistakes. My fastest typer is a logitech K580 =) except i cant work with its tiny arrow keys. I am a logitech fanboy with(g613, g605, g502, g733 etc), and MX mechanical would be worth a try if only it is remappable/full macro-able.
lighter red switch sucks more..less precise, error all the time..
This is actually true. When I was on my Logitech K380, I type pretty fast. Same for the MacBook Pro 13 2020's keyboard. But when I tried one of my fave keybs the Keychron K3 v2, there was a significant difference with my typing speed. Made me slowww
Aha! I'm not the only one.
That's because different keys have more actuation force but this is just an assumption, I don't actually have an idea if why you having this problem.
I thought I was crazy. I have a MX mechanical mini and love the feel (browns). I also have a G915 TKL brown, for gaming it’s fine, but for typing, it was terrible ! Now I’m looking at a NuPhy Air 75v2 or the Lofree Flow.
Hello, I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard. I game about 7 hours a day, but I've already had carpal tunnel surgery. Which is gentler on the hands and wrists? Normal or low profile?
This is how everyone should reviewing their stuff!
Lol I have no idea what I'm talking about as a non-keyboard enthusiast. Thanks for the support.
I agree... I wanted so badly a keychron before... After getting the MX keys mini (not mechanical) I'm not sure so much if i want to swap it. The MX keys swaps so fast from computer to computer. It has a beautiful build, feels so solid and heavy. Price range to keychron is the same, but i think i would rather have 2 mx than a mx and a keychron
Mine is travelling to home actually, I think I will love it for all the reasons you hate it 😭