After creating my own method of making wooden threads (combination of inspired by others + invented myself), and succesfully making quite many screws and bolts I am so happy to have found this video with your method. The wheel can be invented so often and in so many different ways. Even if it looks the same afterwards it is still a joy to invent it again and again. Good luck for the continuation of this project and best greetings from snowy north!
I really really want to see how you make the screw box! If it seems doable for me, I think this will be my vise. Thank you for getting me into your vices!
I love it when you ran the dowel through the wrong side. I noticed that straight away and was thinking 'what's he doing there' until you mentioned it too. I was thinking you'd have to start again. I like seeing mistakes like this because it shows me how to fix my own mistakes.
We all have our vices. That's what makes us woodworkers a little nuts. As long as we don't encounter that mystical creature the "thread bear" we'll be fine. Thanks for another fun video!
I love seeing your mistakes, especially the really silly ones. It makes me feel a lot better & much less critical of myself when I make mistakes. Awesome build! 👍👍
Hey everyone I just got my soft and hard paste wax from James and I have to tell you they are WAY better than anything I’ve ever used and very cheap!! Everyone should try one and help him blow up! He also sent some extra goodies with the order and you can never beat free stuff! Thanks James I will be ordering more and other stuff again!!
This is a really cool demonstration how how woodworkers centuries ago would have had to work up to building a screw box for (literally) cranking out dozens of wooden screws. Solves that chicken and egg puzzle I had going in my head about this.
Hey James. Fantastic series. Woodworking is my hobby (by profession I am IT guy) and I am especially attracted to challenge of creating things using the simplest plain old hand tools. Thanks for sharing your experience and experiments... pleasure to watch...
You have more patience than I do.... I just broke down and bought threaders and taps (FYI, if you have the cash the Dieter-Schmidt ones are the best IMO having tried the beall, and the wooden threaders they are hands down the best I've used). The down side is if you want a big thread you have to pay a TON. I love wooden screws though. They make great fasteners for knock-down furniture as well.
Is a ounce thread stronger than a single thread and if not what purpose does it serve? It just now may have come to me, 1/2 the turns to tighten with the same strength.
unfortunately no. some day but I need to find a better source for cutters. the ones I was going to use are too small. I might have to just make my own from an old chisel.
Now you have me thinking of all wood deck hardware and wooden bolts and screws holding it together on my slowly building skiff. Aw well, the longer it takes to build the less worried my kids will be about a crazy old fool on the water.
On this one it would be a lot harder but it would be very possible you would have to do it with a smaller bench chisel to hit the inside diameter. But it is possible.
Can you make a quick-release / sliding nut from wood? I have a vise that the threads engage only when you tighten it and allows you to slide it open or closed when it's not tight. That would be great to duplicate!
If you had used loose dowels in your nut block before you drilled your hole and cut your thread, these would have been useful to locate the two pieces during thread cutting and could have been used in the final glue up and would also have been in the correct location. I often use black'lumber crayon' when fitting the thread to easily see what tight spots need easing.
If you don't have a bent V gouge and are having difficulty carving out the bottom area of each nut half, you can just saw the sections out. There will be plenty of threads for the guide nut to serve it's purpose in creating the tap and threading box.
Cool project! When you discovered the hole was too big, would it have been feasible to plane off the glue joint edges a little bit to make the hole smaller, or would that have thrown off the shape of the hole or the threads? Side question, how do you like that bridge city plane?
I might have been able to make that work. However I didn't find out that it was too big until after the threads were cut. And it wasn't that far off from being too big. And in any case I was already making another one for the video so really didn't matter too much.
And the bridge City plan is a great plane it's just cute. An actual functional plane there's not too much to it that's terribly functional. It's just a fun tool to have.
You said poplar (by which I guess you meant yellow-poplar?) isn't the best wood for wooden screws. What would be your first choices (if we're considering eastern North American species)? I guess there are trade-offs between wood species that are easier to carve and the quality of the end product?
in general the harder the better the screw will last. but stay away from ring pours woods like ash and oak. most would say that hard maple would be about as good as it gets for north American woods, but it will not be easy to carve.
Starting at ~2:55 on to 3:20 it's not at all clear how you transfer the pitch of the screw onto the nut block. You say "make sure it's the same from one side to the other," but aren't the pencil marks offset due to the pitch of the screw? I know the spacing should be the same, but it's not clear that the marks are offest. And when you carve the threads it looks like you're cutting threads that are parallel to the sides of the nut.... whereas they have to have a pitch, right? To me at least that one point seems unclear. Otherwise, bravo bravissimo!
When you lay out the lines, you mark the points on either side of the nut, then take the bolt out of the way and use a flexible piece of card stock to play. Connect the dots between the lines on either side. There isn't a lot of pitch You only want about a half inch per rotation. For most applications. So it's only going to have about a quarter inch of deviation from one side to the other side of the nut.
That is on my list. But I'm trying to find a good source for the cutters. Unfortunately though with all the other projects going on it's on the back burner. Maybe this winter.
Is that a double start thread? I've thought about doing it this way, but it's always seemed like cheating to me. But I have had so much difficulty making the screw blank - much less the screw box that I don't care anymore. One more honey-do, and I can get back to it.
LOL yup. I am hoping this fall, but we will see. I am trying to find a good source for the cutters that anyone can get, but I may end up making them myself.
I first saw carving one like this at a historical demonstration in Michigan years ago. It's an old common method that used to be pretty standard. But most people make it on a lathe as it's pretty fast and efficient to do it that way.
Once you make the screw box to remake the screw. Im wondering if you can either then make the screw into a tap and reinforce the cutting face with sheet metal OR just stage the cutting bit in the screw box to cut a thread into low carbon steel, Then turn that one into the tap and carborize it with charcoal then quench it. Then your goofy threads will become ubiquitous.
That would work well with a machine cut screw but with a hand cut screw It probably would not work as the variances and the screws would mean they would only work in that one spot you used to make the threads.
You might want to see Łukasz Gierasz's video about screws. If not the whole (b/c it is in Polish without English subtitles), then at least the part about Heron''s tap ua-cam.com/video/yi2ycBhaCxM/v-deo.html
After creating my own method of making wooden threads (combination of inspired by others + invented myself), and succesfully making quite many screws and bolts I am so happy to have found this video with your method.
The wheel can be invented so often and in so many different ways. Even if it looks the same afterwards it is still a joy to invent it again and again.
Good luck for the continuation of this project and best greetings from snowy north!
I really really want to see how you make the screw box! If it seems doable for me, I think this will be my vise. Thank you for getting me into your vices!
I love it when you ran the dowel through the wrong side. I noticed that straight away and was thinking 'what's he doing there' until you mentioned it too. I was thinking you'd have to start again. I like seeing mistakes like this because it shows me how to fix my own mistakes.
It looks cool to have all of those dowel ends on the final project. Almost like a planned decoration, kinda, maybe, ...
We all have our vices. That's what makes us woodworkers a little nuts. As long as we don't encounter that mystical creature the "thread bear" we'll be fine. Thanks for another fun video!
I love seeing your mistakes, especially the really silly ones. It makes me feel a lot better & much less critical of myself when I make mistakes.
Awesome build! 👍👍
It's probably the most cool video I've ever seen on UA-cam
This amazing 2 part series has convinced me that I will buy a cutting kit before I ever attempt making one. 😁
Or perhaps this is the excuse for an auxiliary axis for the CNC.
@@richs5422 lathe?
@@ilikewaffles3689 It does kinda turn a CNC mill into a CNC lathe, yes.
Hey everyone I just got my soft and hard paste wax from James and I have to tell you they are WAY better than anything I’ve ever used and very cheap!! Everyone should try one and help him blow up! He also sent some extra goodies with the order and you can never beat free stuff! Thanks James I will be ordering more and other stuff again!!
Thanks man that means a lot. I'll keep it coming.
Gunner is obviously bought and paid for by Big...homemade paste wax? Hmmm need to think about this one for a sec.
This is a really cool demonstration how how woodworkers centuries ago would have had to work up to building a screw box for (literally) cranking out dozens of wooden screws. Solves that chicken and egg puzzle I had going in my head about this.
Hey James. Fantastic series. Woodworking is my hobby (by profession I am IT guy) and I am especially attracted to challenge of creating things using the simplest plain old hand tools. Thanks for sharing your experience and experiments... pleasure to watch...
That was just great! I had no idea such a thing was possible.
Thank you for this valuable Lesson !
very useful to know as an engineer
Nice bridgecity plane you have there.
Lol I splurged!
You have more patience than I do.... I just broke down and bought threaders and taps (FYI, if you have the cash the Dieter-Schmidt ones are the best IMO having tried the beall, and the wooden threaders they are hands down the best I've used). The down side is if you want a big thread you have to pay a TON.
I love wooden screws though. They make great fasteners for knock-down furniture as well.
A good Video waiting to see the screw box with cutters dont be too long cheers
After you finish making a vise, do you need to lubricate the threads? What would you use?
I use paste wax when they get tight.
I hadn't considered how to make the nut so this was quite interesting! Thanks for the video!
That was very fun! I'm using a metal vise but I think I need to add this to the list. I'll check out the video of your leg vise
This is nuts!! Awesome dude 👌👌
Screw box
Screw box
Screw box
Screw box
Screw box
And don’t screw it up. 😜
Genial ! Ya que no había visto manual
Nice Job Bud👍
Is a ounce thread stronger than a single thread and if not what purpose does it serve? It just now may have come to me, 1/2 the turns to tighten with the same strength.
Should say double thread
No it's not stronger. It just makes it a faster thread but still giving you smaller teeth that are easier to carve.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
Is there a cutting box video out yet ?
unfortunately no. some day but I need to find a better source for cutters. the ones I was going to use are too small. I might have to just make my own from an old chisel.
Totally needed a tally overlay to *ting* everytime James says nut(s).
That was a nutty funny what the hardest timber you could use like teak or oak
Now you have me thinking of all wood deck hardware and wooden bolts and screws holding it together on my slowly building skiff. Aw well, the longer it takes to build the less worried my kids will be about a crazy old fool on the water.
Same question I posed on the screw video... can this be done with regular chisels if one doesn't have a v tool?
On this one it would be a lot harder but it would be very possible you would have to do it with a smaller bench chisel to hit the inside diameter. But it is possible.
Gostei do vídeo a mais de 40 anos fiz um semelhante a ese só que com o mínimo de ferramentas e ainda tenho até hoje.
Want to make these to press for flattening artwork that need to be glued to boards.
that would be fun. I have made a few presses, but they are always so depressing!
Beautiful work, James! Pretty impressive! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Can you make a quick-release / sliding nut from wood? I have a vise that the threads engage only when you tighten it and allows you to slide it open or closed when it's not tight. That would be great to duplicate!
Very cool. Thanks!
You can apply this method for a metal for screw making. I think it would be possible to make a homemade machine tool with your method
Is there a good reference book for this?
not that I know of. the only sources I have found are talking to guys that have studied examples.
If you had used loose dowels in your nut block before you drilled your hole and cut your thread, these would have been useful to locate the two pieces during thread cutting and could have been used in the final glue up and would also have been in the correct location. I often use black'lumber crayon' when fitting the thread to easily see what tight spots need easing.
If you don't have a bent V gouge and are having difficulty carving out the bottom area of each nut half, you can just saw the sections out. There will be plenty of threads for the guide nut to serve it's purpose in creating the tap and threading box.
Very true
Cool project! When you discovered the hole was too big, would it have been feasible to plane off the glue joint edges a little bit to make the hole smaller, or would that have thrown off the shape of the hole or the threads?
Side question, how do you like that bridge city plane?
I might have been able to make that work. However I didn't find out that it was too big until after the threads were cut. And it wasn't that far off from being too big. And in any case I was already making another one for the video so really didn't matter too much.
And the bridge City plan is a great plane it's just cute. An actual functional plane there's not too much to it that's terribly functional. It's just a fun tool to have.
You said poplar (by which I guess you meant yellow-poplar?) isn't the best wood for wooden screws. What would be your first choices (if we're considering eastern North American species)? I guess there are trade-offs between wood species that are easier to carve and the quality of the end product?
in general the harder the better the screw will last. but stay away from ring pours woods like ash and oak. most would say that hard maple would be about as good as it gets for north American woods, but it will not be easy to carve.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Thanks very much!
Missed an opportunity for another pun in the intro ... "So we screwed around, and now we're going nuts."
Starting at ~2:55 on to 3:20 it's not at all clear how you transfer the pitch of the screw onto the nut block. You say "make sure it's the same from one side to the other," but aren't the pencil marks offset due to the pitch of the screw? I know the spacing should be the same, but it's not clear that the marks are offest. And when you carve the threads it looks like you're cutting threads that are parallel to the sides of the nut.... whereas they have to have a pitch, right? To me at least that one point seems unclear. Otherwise, bravo bravissimo!
When you lay out the lines, you mark the points on either side of the nut, then take the bolt out of the way and use a flexible piece of card stock to play. Connect the dots between the lines on either side. There isn't a lot of pitch You only want about a half inch per rotation. For most applications. So it's only going to have about a quarter inch of deviation from one side to the other side of the nut.
Second question: Are you going to get around to showing us how to create a screwthreading tool any time soon?
That is on my list. But I'm trying to find a good source for the cutters. Unfortunately though with all the other projects going on it's on the back burner. Maybe this winter.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Any updates on this project?
Is that a double start thread?
I've thought about doing it this way, but it's always seemed like cheating to me. But I have had so much difficulty making the screw blank - much less the screw box that I don't care anymore. One more honey-do, and I can get back to it.
we're still waiting for that screw box video
LOL yup. I am hoping this fall, but we will see. I am trying to find a good source for the cutters that anyone can get, but I may end up making them myself.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo "little forest" on UA-cam made an interesting one with 2 cutters. I think he used an old v file to create a v cutter
Has anyone tried to make a small screw with a nut for a marking gauge? I don't want to make a nut in two parts.
Usually for that size you can just use a normal tap and die
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From where did you get this idea? It is so simple and smart! I watch a lot of hand tool stuff but have never seen anything like this.
I first saw carving one like this at a historical demonstration in Michigan years ago. It's an old common method that used to be pretty standard. But most people make it on a lathe as it's pretty fast and efficient to do it that way.
This looks like the apotheosis of hand making nuts in wood. Modern machines would not exist w o people hand making things like this long time ago.
Once you make the screw box to remake the screw. Im wondering if you can either then make the screw into a tap and reinforce the cutting face with sheet metal OR just stage the cutting bit in the screw box to cut a thread into low carbon steel, Then turn that one into the tap and carborize it with charcoal then quench it. Then your goofy threads will become ubiquitous.
These are the carved threads
That made the nut
That made the thread box
That made the bolt
That lay in the house that Jack built!
This is how were made first machine tools
Good Saturday for nuts lol
Did anyone else think he’d carve his own image when they read “how to carve a nut”?
Hmm, wax the screw, and then make threads with epoxy?
That would work well with a machine cut screw but with a hand cut screw It probably would not work as the variances and the screws would mean they would only work in that one spot you used to make the threads.
So you are now an almond joy?
cool
Nice with simple hand tools.
However, I would use the available screw and attach a 60° angle bit at its end to scrape the nut thread.
That would work great if you can find it 2 in screw with two TPI threads
You might want to see Łukasz Gierasz's video about screws. If not the whole (b/c it is in Polish without English subtitles), then at least the part about Heron''s tap ua-cam.com/video/yi2ycBhaCxM/v-deo.html
Is a Jool a tool made by a Jewish person?
Jamaican 😅
Yeah I'm on Jamaica we've got a wooden screw
21st.