Selfmade Tools for Wooden Threads Part II: the TAP
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Making own hand-tools to make big sized wooden threads for the vise of my new Roubo-workbench: a dowel maker, a tap and a die, also called screw-box. This is Part II and shows the creation of a TAP.
Since i started to build my own workbench i have been wondering what threads to use for the vise. And as more i have been looking for the right one as more it has been burning to make them by myself - out of wood. And as more i felt comfortable with this idea, as more it has been tickling me to also make all the needed tools just by myself.
To be honest, it has not been the easiest project. And it has been keeping me aktiv for quite a while. Time, i have been enjoying i my small basement workshop and outdoors. There was a lot of opportunity to learn new things!
I apologize for the bad light and some not so good taken views. It is bit dark there down and quite narrow, but i did my best. I also want to remind, that it is the first time i have made these kind of tools. So not everything has gone perfect, i also made some mistakes. That´s the way we learn, and that´s the way i want to share this project with you.
Here you find of my SCREWS ON SALE:
www.etsy.com/d...
This is Part 2; In my other videos you can see how the other tools are made, and how they will make a Screw and a Bolt.
- Part 1 - the Dowel-Maker: • Self-Made Tools for Wo...
- Part 3 - the ScrewBox or Dye: • Self-made Tools for Wo...
- Part 4 - Using the tools to make a Screw and a Bolt: • Selfmade Tools for Woo...
If you have questions, please feel free to use the comment-function.
Enjoy the video, i hope it will be somehow useful to you and inspire you for your own projects.
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Here you find some of my SCREWS ON SALE:
www.etsy.com/de/shop/LittleForestSuomi?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
Excellent work! I've seen talented and experienced woodworkers say "Don't bother making wood screws, it's impossible", and here you are making it look simple! Now I'm inspired to try doing something similar with smaller dowels, maybe like a moxon vise or PCB/Jeweller's vise :)
"it's impossible" - countless examples in history proves them easily wrong.
Thank you for such valuable information!!! A master passes on to the student.
Love that saw!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Are you interested in further videos about thread-making?
You´ll find some links in the description!
This is what I’m talking about! Thank you so much!
This is epic.
Very nice simple tools! Excellent filming and editing (for me, it was almost more exciting than an action movie) Thank you for this very good and instructional video!
Thank you very much!
Looks like you are working in a self-storage area of an apartment building. Well done with the bloom where you are planted thing.
Thank you so much! Very clever design and high quality content. Subscribed & pressed the bell.
Лучший мастер!!!
Wonderful instructions, but I still do not know at what angle to cut the two wooden blocks to hold the cutter blade. Just asking for a friend who wants to copy your creation 😊 .
That's the nice thing with self made things - you are free to choose!
Steeper angle and the screw will close/open faster - lower angle and the screw will close/open more precisely. In other words, this angle is defining the TPI / Turn Per Inch.
Well since I have never tried making anything but a tooth pick, I will do my best 😂 !
Hi, Nice job. Let me know when you've completed the series and made a playlist of it. I'll be happy to share a link with my subscribers.
Hei Mitch! I am very new on UA-cam and still bit helpless in this digital world... But, i think, i managed, to make a playlist out of these four videos. For now, this series is ready. Maybe i´ll make one more, when the wood for my workbench is dry, on how to make the thread for the vises. But this will not be before end of the year. So, if you like, feel free to share it :-) All the best, and stay close to your health!!
Dang I like the hacksaw..
Me too !
How did you learn all this?
Hmm, not sure... Maybe observing others, then doing and trying have been good teachers.
At 9:26, when you start feeding the tap, how does the distance between the helix lines remain consistent as it shows at 10:04?
It´s magic :-)
I have to say, that exactly this point (carving the thread is easy, but how to guide the screw into the tap in a way, that the helix remains consistent??) caused me lots of thinking while the preparation. I just could not really believe that it will work. And than, afterwards it seems so easy and logic.
... as the blade itself is guiding it (not only cutting!) , the lines can´t be else than consistent...
Did this help you Christine?
Try annealing the file before shaping it. Heat it up till it is red hot and then let it cool slowly. After you finish shaping the steel then heat it up again till red hot and then quench it in oil. I think that most of your files are made of something like an O1 tool steel. This should work. It will save you a lot of time.
Thanx for your hint!
Ironwork is still bit new to me, but i am curious to learn more about it.
This time i did it like shown to make sure to keep the iron hard. But next time i´ll try new ways :-)
@@littleforest Here is a video on the subject. I hope this saves you some time and work.
ua-cam.com/video/atq0Scj1gaY/v-deo.html
@@rehoboth_farm Thank you! I will check it...
You inspire me to try again after my failed attempt two years ago! Maybe linseed oil was my missing ingredient. I watched all the videos, but missed a comment I guess...
What kind of wood did you use for the bolt, tap, and nut? From the bark, it looks like it might be birch?
Yes, you are right: birch. Even if it works very well, specially for the roundwood, where the blade is fixed in, i would maybe go for maple or similar, if i reproduce it.
And also for the oil, you guessed right. In other videos, mineral oil is recommended, but i prefer ecological and biodegradable material. Soaking in oil will make the wood softer, and less tear-out will happen. It is then bit like working on greenwood.
I am glad, that this video has been inspiring you and would be even more, getting a message, on how you have been succesful. Good luck for it!
@@littleforest I will not forget to do that! Thanks!
@@littleforest Actually, I have questions for you.
1. What tolerance do you have between the tap and the hole with the metal plate?
2. What tolerance do you have between the tap and the hole in the nut you are tapping? Is it the same tolerance?
Last night, I noticed mine is somewhat loose, and the bit seems to jam a lot. I think that a tighter fit would be better, but I still want it to work. lubrication might help. I'll work more on it this weekend.
Hei Bill!
1. I did not plan any tolerance. In other words, all wholes are drilled with the same size. But while using the dowel-maker, the dowel got little bit smaller than the whole. Maybe 0,1 mm.
2. Again, the drill i used to make the dowel-maker to make the Tap is the same drill i use to make the whole into the nut. But, i can choose how tight i want the thread to be by adjusting how deep the blade is sitting inside the Tap while making the last turn. Now, as i have ready screws i can always remove the Tap and put the ready screw into the nut. If it is too tight, i put the blade bit deeper and give one more round. I get them now realy tight, the screws do not move at all inside the nut. Still they go smooth. What helps is to have at least one full round inside the nut, better two and i like to use some hard soap. It gives a nice glide.
Hope, these words are understandable and helpfull.
Nice! RWB
There's a cut in the video, where the cutter is turned around so the curved side faces the tap.
What happened there? Is there a reason to start with the straight side?
Did you do multiple passes?
Good question... at least, it is way easier to sharpen the straight face. Maybe this was the reason.
For the other question, you'll find the answer in the video, where these tools are shown in action - better, than with words. All the Best!
le saluda de PERU ,
Very nice work. Pitch 20 mm is not to much for 40 mm dia. dowel ?.
Hei Dan!
The screw / thread will have 60 mm diameter. Still more than usual. It´s a trial. I am finishing these tools these days and hopefully i´ll than know more about it. If so, i´ll share it on the next videos about these Thread Tools. Thanx for your patience...
@@littleforest ok, i will wait for the next video
I fished to build a tail-vise with these threads. Also I have been bit wondering if 20mm was bit too much. But now, I can say, that to my taste it works very well. They turn fast and smooth and hold very tight. To be honest, i did not expect it would turn out this well!
At 15:49 ... when you are saying "pitch = 20 mm," how many threads are within that 20 mm?
For instance, I'm used to seeing it stated as "2 threads per inch." Or 2 TPI.
Note for me : 20 mm = about 1 inch, 60 mm = about 2 inches
@fabien sachse Yes, I remember seeing that part but I didn't catch what was being told. I apologize.
So, in metric, it's 2 threads per mm. Thanks for the reply.
How strong is the plate mechanism? Would it be possible to use it for the vise screw?
You are welcome to check out my videos of the benchmaking, and get your own idea of it! You will find them in my playlists.
Hey there! What's the name/type of the iron blade you use when making the incision? Are they sold under a specific name?
its just an old saw blade from a hand-saw..
Great demo thanks. What is the grey block rubbed on dowel at 09:40?
Its soap. You can also use beeswax or the rest of a candle (stearin/parafin). It makes the parts glide better.
You show the tap making the die, but I don't think you have shown the tap making a nut.
take a closer look - the last video of this series :-)
man, i LOVE that idea of clamping the plane blade and self-twisting as a crude lathe in a tight space. my work-shop is ultra small so this kind of tip is invaluable.
👍💯⚡
. Классно -учитесь.
That is a beautiful frame saw. Did you make that yourself? Or where to get one?
Nice, that you liked it. It is my favorite saw :-)
Yes, i did it myself. I just bought the blade. The wood is ROWAN also called MOUNTAIN ASH. A beautiful and very flexible and strong wood.
He has made a nice video on how to make this saw. You'll find it on his channel..
👍more videos please
Hah, that is a nice motivation :-) Thank you!!
Amigo vc tem o projeto desse fazedor de rosca?