I heard that Jack Ginnivan can actually look into a broken mirror and it'll repair itself due to how beautiful Jack is and how unbelievable his Aura is, Jack's just one of those special special once in a lifetime type of players who lead big clubs and big moments.
Will Day is a gun player. My hope is that he leads the Hawks to a flag one day...I'm not pushing Sicily out as captain but Will Day just drips leadership qualities and skill. He's a player everyone wants in their team.
100% Hawthorn went through this 2008-2009 and with list improvements and further development we went on to bigger and better things with the threepeat. Not every club will do the same but it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.
@@Hunty49Probably would. They did it with an aging list and were still competitive in 2019-2020 finishing 5th in both of those years. But retirements and a further aging list, not to mention a horrid injury run completely derailed them.
They can rely on Bailey Smith next year now. They lost the number one and top 10 draft pick for a dud. At least Darcy Moore won't be captain next year as well
@@stevesalkas9128 probably not but with how competitive they have been this year, I would expect them to give finals a good run next year and flag contention within the next 5
@@stevesalkas9128 they’ve dropped too many games they should have won to be a real threat even if they were to sneak into top 8, pies are in the same boat.
After gold Coast game they checked out and worst injuries and only 2 games from 3rd .si many overrated teams .. Carlton had 24pts b4 season started . North wce rich twice
Great analysis guys. Yes we need prime time games and even when we were struggling I could see that we were a faced paced team and very watchable if we got things right. The new addition by the genius Sam Mitchell has fully completed our game plan and it’s all working beautifully. We’ve been a bit of a sleeping giant for a few years in the afl but can’t wait for the next era of powerful hawks!
I said to my Dad at the beginning of the season - watch out for the Hawks. Must admit my prediction looked shaky for a while in the first half of the year. 😂
Collingwood needs to recruit that young whipper snapper live wire Hawthorn player Jack Ginnivan to bring some energy and enthusiasm back in the team. Collingwood very stagnant at the moment! That’s what I think! 🤔
Port got slammed when they just scrapped over the line against the Hawks yet when you see the games since they managed to pull a win where most haven’t including the current premiers, just goes to show you shouldn’t slam a team when they struggle against a lower opponent because that opponent might be much better than their position indicates
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 thanks for your input. Must be skewed and SO overrated with the percentage lol. I was saying it to point out I'm not a hawthorn fan. They're exciting though.
Hawks have made the switch between development to settled. Plus not to mention a couple of A graders they might bring in during the off season trade period. Regarding Collingwood, I honestly believe there has been mismanagement of the preseason after the deep finals campaign. Every single player over 28 should be on the trade table on that Collingwood list.
@@effkay3691 yeah but they said the pies had a young list last year whilst being the exact opposite haha pretty obvious it'd fall apart this year. They are ancient and have no picks/barely any young talent coming up. Worst part is trading away first year picks for 28yo small forwards and trading out your good young small forward
@@effkay3691 They were betting on going back to back, trading their picks shows their thought process was on the now. Now they have basically no good young players outside of daicos. Trading Ollie Henry out was also a big mistake, they've needed young forwards and continue to get rid of them for old players
I can guarantee that Cornes would be criticising Ginni if he was carrying on like that at Collingwood. He would point out they are 11th on the ladder and you only beat a bottom 8 side so pull your head in. And the later is what he should've gone with but Cornes has gone soft.
They are one of the top in form teams at the moment and what has been easy about their draw? At the start of the season it was ranked the 5th hardest after finishing 3rd last Carlton Essendon and Geelong have had way easier fixtures
The pies last year & most of 2022 usually came from behind & scrapped over the line at the final bell, including their flag in 2023. I cant recall them really blowing teams out of the water to win by massive margins. Now its biting them on the bum. When teams get a jump on them, often they dont have enough in the tank for a come back like they often did in 22 & 23.
This Collingwood list was more experienced than people realised when McRae took the job they need to land some FA to turn the ship around because their U/23 crop is bang average
@@StuTheDon17 I'm mad fan of Collingwood I can admit they really gave it all. This Paul don't know what he on about. All they can do now is think about there mistakes. Gave up number one and top 10. So back to the drawing board it is. Only one good thing coming outta this is that we got bailey Smith next year hopefully he can show his skills.
Kane yah biased flog im a Richmond fan and in fact I was proud of their effort. Had the worst run with injuries I’ve ever seen from any team in a season and a first time coach after our last one ditched midway through a season and we’re at the bottom. Can’t wait to see the pissweak excuses he gives port and Ken after they go out in straight sets for the 3rd year in a row. Joke of a club port Adelaide.
Because Hawthorn are a bigger club and bigger area than Collingwood. No club in afl or club in Australia mind you can compete with the full package that Hawthorn offers to its supporters and members.
@@stevesalkas9128what r u on. Pies fans leave the game when they r in a losing situation. Pies Bragg about being the biggest sporting club in Australia.
Of course your going to hear a different Craig McRea!!!! They have lost more games this season so of course the Post Game message is going to be more aggressive in bad loses and so it should be!!!
All i know is in every type of work place whether that be school to work to uni to retirement, when everyone puts their flags on the table - No one can land as many as Hawks can and thats why its the number one club, 13 flags in U50 years and Hawthorn will always have money due to real estate. These are Facts that Collingwood can't land because ultimately they're Hawthorn Pretenders.
When the Maggies don't win I don't watch crap like this like all pies fans. I wreckon their ratings drop astronomically like all I need to hear is what our awesome coach is planning for the boys at training. Onya Craig and Go Pies.
time to fire kane way too smug about the pies loss he's been ignoring their injury list all year could've listened to anyone else give this criticism but he simply doesn't deserve a spot at the desk
hawthorn are still out of the 8 are they not? the way this panel make out they are top 4. yes they are playing good footy to watch but they have had a pretty soft draw and few injuries to speak of. the pattern of teams finishing bottom 6 the getting a run is pretty consistent. As for ginnivan he chose to leave Collingwood because he was afraid of competition for spots. I love how he goes about it but it's good for footy but there is alot of water to go under the bridge with him yet.
"You can Lose and Still be Winners" Thats the Difference between a Hawthorn and Collingwood, At Collingwood making a Grand Final is the standard for the fans, at Hawthorn it's winning them and nothing short of that is absolute abject failure, thats how you win a 3peat after losing 2012' GF. Hawthorn is the most serious sports organisation in Australia, Period.
@@timmcgrath9708how long were Brisbane down after their 3 peat? Clarkson was a great coach but made some big mistakes after 2015 Hawthorn have won at least 1 flag in every decade since 1960 and that is a high standard
@@Johny-jy5vo Yep so the Hawks were willing to accept mediocrity (contrary to the OP’s claim) until the Pies showed interest in Sam Mitchell and only then did the Hawks make a move. The Hawks supporters should actually be thanking us - rather than insulting us - for their current form!!
even if they don't lose the next few games they might not make the 8. nothing to be ashamed of and you know as well as I do they'll be a force to be reckoned with next year
I heard that Jack Ginnivan can actually look into a broken mirror and it'll repair itself due to how beautiful Jack is and how unbelievable his Aura is, Jack's just one of those special special once in a lifetime type of players who lead big clubs and big moments.
Yep, big mistake of Collingwood to push him out.
Much better player than tubby Sgt Schultz #8 … 😂
He’s a wanka. Don’t care who he plays for
31 disposals, 11 score involvements and two goals. BT would be blowing his mind if these were Nick “hot potato” Daicos stats
The glazing is crazy 😅
got a man crush on Will Day and I barrack 4 Geelong- that's how good this team is going LOL 🤣
Mine is weddle, that mullet is exquisite.
Well done thanks
@@sellison9070 there 11th
Will Day is the best young player at Hawthorn easily
Will Day is a gun player. My hope is that he leads the Hawks to a flag one day...I'm not pushing Sicily out as captain but Will Day just drips leadership qualities and skill. He's a player everyone wants in their team.
Pies fan
I'd still take a premiership and then have a crap year but...well done hawks and Sam Mitchell! Love the way they are playing footy!
I wonder if West Coast said the same thing. Won 2018 and then crap years since.
Exactly
100% Hawthorn went through this 2008-2009 and with list improvements and further development we went on to bigger and better things with the threepeat. Not every club will do the same but it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.
@@Hunty49Probably would. They did it with an aging list and were still competitive in 2019-2020 finishing 5th in both of those years. But retirements and a further aging list, not to mention a horrid injury run completely derailed them.
@@AtariPCnet True. Hawthorn was brave about trading older premiership players. Even the Buddy trade was a win.
Good on Ginni , from collingwood supporter, all the best to him.
Well at least they can tank now, oh wait a second, they gave up their 1st round pick to Freo so scrap that idea 😂
They can rely on Bailey Smith next year now. They lost the number one and top 10 draft pick for a dud. At least Darcy Moore won't be captain next year as well
@@chriscoyne4827Darcy Less. EFA
@@chriscoyne4827who do you reckon gets skipper
@@declanharris8225 Jack crisp easy. Daicos vice captain
Why drop moore as captain after the worst injuries in club history ....its not helping no one @@chriscoyne4827
Sam Mitchell is building a team and a format that will be dangerous for the next 5 years
BBQ team no finals again 😅
@@stevesalkas9128 probably not but with how competitive they have been this year, I would expect them to give finals a good run next year and flag contention within the next 5
@@vigour6786 why not ..go flagpies 🤔
@@stevesalkas9128 they’ve dropped too many games they should have won to be a real threat even if they were to sneak into top 8, pies are in the same boat.
@@vigour6786 to your comment hawks be good next 5 years if no injuries
Hawks starting to become the 2016 Bulldogs
Maynard should miss. Wasn’t a fend off, like a don’t argue, was an elbow.
@Toomaletoopaletoostale nothing in it trial by media because they all hate maynard
Not much in it.
@VintageTimeGems I get he plays for collingwood and people hate him that's fine they will never look at it objectively if his jumper is black & white
Watson should get suspended too then. Jumped and made contact with his elbow to Maynard's head
@@denisjeux1020 There's a reason for that.
The Pies season was over weeks ago boys.
After gold Coast game they checked out and worst injuries and only 2 games from 3rd .si many overrated teams .. Carlton had 24pts b4 season started . North wce rich twice
Straight up!
Rub the salt in Jack, don’t hold back! 😂😂
Great analysis guys. Yes we need prime time games and even when we were struggling I could see that we were a faced paced team and very watchable if we got things right. The new addition by the genius Sam Mitchell has fully completed our game plan and it’s all working beautifully. We’ve been a bit of a sleeping giant for a few years in the afl but can’t wait for the next era of powerful hawks!
Hawks were amazing. Hats off
I said to my Dad at the beginning of the season - watch out for the Hawks. Must admit my prediction looked shaky for a while in the first half of the year. 😂
Collingwood needs to recruit that young whipper snapper live wire Hawthorn player Jack Ginnivan to bring some energy and enthusiasm back in the team. Collingwood very stagnant at the moment! That’s what I think! 🤔
Port got slammed when they just scrapped over the line against the Hawks yet when you see the games since they managed to pull a win where most haven’t including the current premiers, just goes to show you shouldn’t slam a team when they struggle against a lower opponent because that opponent might be much better than their position indicates
Am a swans fan. Congrats hawks, was awesome to watch
I really enjoyed the 2022 Grand Final result. Watch it again now!
@@jtcorran5758you beat me imagine swans get smashed in gf
Again 😅
A swans fan who is gonna find out come September the Syd ducks are the most overrated side that most likely go out in straight sets 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 thanks for your input. Must be skewed and SO overrated with the percentage lol.
I was saying it to point out I'm not a hawthorn fan. They're exciting though.
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 I would like gws or bris win
Hawks have made the switch between development to settled. Plus not to mention a couple of A graders they might bring in during the off season trade period. Regarding Collingwood, I honestly believe there has been mismanagement of the preseason after the deep finals campaign. Every single player over 28 should be on the trade table on that Collingwood list.
I’m Hawthorn and I’m not 100% sure about the antics, but maybe it’s good for the game as far as entertainment and enjoying the game is concerned.
'Love the guy to bits' for Hawkes number 34. It should have been 10 times as hard.
Collingwood last year had the oldest list, what do they mean a young list?
Sunday clowns Brown and Chad's brother😅
They still have the oldest list. They were great last year and won it just in time because their best players are on the way out apart from Daicos.
@@effkay3691 yeah but they said the pies had a young list last year whilst being the exact opposite haha pretty obvious it'd fall apart this year. They are ancient and have no picks/barely any young talent coming up. Worst part is trading away first year picks for 28yo small forwards and trading out your good young small forward
@@Tosicc567 I completely agree. I’m sure they thought they could get a couple more seasons from this squad
@@effkay3691 They were betting on going back to back, trading their picks shows their thought process was on the now. Now they have basically no good young players outside of daicos. Trading Ollie Henry out was also a big mistake, they've needed young forwards and continue to get rid of them for old players
I can guarantee that Cornes would be criticising Ginni if he was carrying on like that at Collingwood. He would point out they are 11th on the ladder and you only beat a bottom 8 side so pull your head in. And the later is what he should've gone with but Cornes has gone soft.
Wizard watson looks like martin riggs, chol just needs to get his moustache up to standard, and we have riggs and murtaugh in forward line.
Chol did good. He didn’t kick goals till late but in the wet crashing packs bring the ball to ground is what u want from a big forward in the wet
@@falconmclenny7284 hilarious comment !
Oi Barrett, imagine how well the Hawks would be going if they weren't tanking eh ?
“Wizard” Watson?
Bloke was unknown before the weekend.
discussed Maynard high but not Watsons who wasn't even reported should've gotten 7 weeks like Webster
I fear for my blues for when we come up against hawks in a few weeks time
Surprised Kane is okay with the celebrations…..
Dont even bother analysing collingwodd matches for the rest of the season, they HAVE given up.
They are one of the top in form teams at the moment and what has been easy about their draw?
At the start of the season it was ranked the 5th hardest after finishing 3rd last
Carlton Essendon and Geelong have had way easier fixtures
Gosh I wonder what Sam Mitchell has on Cornes. Never has said a bad word even when they were getting belted
Cornes always liked the list did say at one stage there are playing stuttering football but said he would rather have that list to work with
He did when they were struggling earlier in the year. But he’s always said Mitchell is the right man for the job
daicos does not miss tackles morally they count as a stat
Well played hawks. FYI wobbling bombers fan here
As a Freo supporter I'm loving the Lauchie Schultz trade
The pies last year & most of 2022 usually came from behind & scrapped over the line at the final bell, including their flag in 2023. I cant recall them really blowing teams out of the water to win by massive margins. Now its biting them on the bum. When teams get a jump on them, often they dont have enough in the tank for a come back like they often did in 22 & 23.
Collingwood’s season over, that just made my weekend.
Ablett did what Maynard did for like 3 weeks in a row and everyone called it "bumper bars".
This Collingwood list was more experienced than people realised when McRae took the job they need to land some FA to turn the ship around because their U/23 crop is bang average
Collingwood doesn't have a young list.
Oh well they got their premiership lololololol and like all other sides must go back to the well dude 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444
Back to the well? They gave their first pick to Freo hahaha
@@StuTheDon17this Paul dude doesn’t even know what his own team is up to, shows how trash their season is going
@@StuTheDon17 I'm mad fan of Collingwood I can admit they really gave it all. This Paul don't know what he on about. All they can do now is think about there mistakes. Gave up number one and top 10. So back to the drawing board it is. Only one good thing coming outta this is that we got bailey Smith next year hopefully he can show his skills.
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444don’t think you know what you’re talking about buddy 😂
Biggest Premiership hangover ever period. Collingwood will be lucky to finish 10rh.
Collingwood tears are known to give enteral life!
Kane yah biased flog im a Richmond fan and in fact I was proud of their effort. Had the worst run with injuries I’ve ever seen from any team in a season and a first time coach after our last one ditched midway through a season and we’re at the bottom. Can’t wait to see the pissweak excuses he gives port and Ken after they go out in straight sets for the 3rd year in a row. Joke of a club port Adelaide.
Maynard trying again to win by force, didnt work. Collingwood losses are my joy for Brashaw and Petracca.
Melbourne getting smashed off the park by Freo was my joy. They stink.
Once we get Josh battle we will be unstoppable
Well Ginnivan definitely stuck it to Collingwood
Maynard gave one then got one but no mention of the later.
What?
If you actually look at it closely Nick Watson only makes contact with his chest…. That’s probably why it wasn’t mentioned.
He took a dive. He's a dog.
Ginnivan played Collingwood to get a move to Hawks..and will win a flag and at brownlow at the club he always wanted to be at
Because Hawthorn are a bigger club and bigger area than Collingwood. No club in afl or club in Australia mind you can compete with the full package that Hawthorn offers to its supporters and members.
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Facts there were double the amount of hawks supporters than pies fans there
Hawks fans come out from under there rock when winning pies always 50k plus 😅
Hawthorn bigger club than Collingwood?? What you sniffing mate?
@@stevesalkas9128what r u on. Pies fans leave the game when they r in a losing situation. Pies Bragg about being the biggest sporting club in Australia.
Of course your going to hear a different Craig McRea!!!! They have lost more games this season so of course the Post Game message is going to be more aggressive in bad loses and so it should be!!!
'23 Flag, all good // cheers
The honeymoon period is over for Collingwood coach Collingwood defensively are weak
Collingwood's pressure falls off they're game Falls Apart
7:33 Jack literally ducked into into his arm?????
Good strat let's be real.
All i know is in every type of work place whether that be school to work to uni to retirement, when everyone puts their flags on the table - No one can land as many as Hawks can and thats why its the number one club, 13 flags in U50 years and Hawthorn will always have money due to real estate. These are Facts that Collingwood can't land because ultimately they're Hawthorn Pretenders.
"That's great, that stuff." Awful.
Collingwood are finished 😂
About time collingwood didn't make the top 8 I'm glade to see it
You thought they were gonna dominate? Lucky to win 1, let alone a dynasty.
When the Maggies don't win I don't watch crap like this like all pies fans. I wreckon their ratings drop astronomically like all I need to hear is what our awesome coach is planning for the boys at training.
Onya Craig and Go Pies.
But here you are commenting on it….
This is crazy guys just slow down a bit slow down enough to find something real to do with your life. Woohoo.
Told you so.
More excuses if you want to learn how to Fumble kick and hand pass to the opposition watch them.
They had no idea.
ByeBye.
time to fire kane way too smug about the pies loss he's been ignoring their injury list all year could've listened to anyone else give this criticism but he simply doesn't deserve a spot at the desk
hawthorn are still out of the 8 are they not? the way this panel make out they are top 4. yes they are playing good footy to watch but they have had a pretty soft draw and few injuries to speak of. the pattern of teams finishing bottom 6 the getting a run is pretty consistent. As for ginnivan he chose to leave Collingwood because he was afraid of competition for spots. I love how he goes about it but it's good for footy but there is alot of water to go under the bridge with him yet.
Kane clown port will miss 8
Lasso McRae luck run out
Ginni sticking it spoonpies is hilarious
Maynard just as innocent in this one as he was with Brayshaw... knows how to end careers "accidentally".
"You can Lose and Still be Winners" Thats the Difference between a Hawthorn and Collingwood, At Collingwood making a Grand Final is the standard for the fans, at Hawthorn it's winning them and nothing short of that is absolute abject failure, thats how you win a 3peat after losing 2012' GF. Hawthorn is the most serious sports organisation in Australia, Period.
Get a life loser
Let's see how soon hawthorn can go back to back again then mate it's only going to get harder
A team whose “standards” are so high it hasn’t won a final for nearly 10 years 😂
Please.
@@timmcgrath9708how long were Brisbane down after their 3 peat?
Clarkson was a great coach but made some big mistakes after 2015
Hawthorn have won at least 1 flag in every decade since 1960 and that is a high standard
@@Johny-jy5vo Yep so the Hawks were willing to accept mediocrity (contrary to the OP’s claim) until the Pies showed interest in Sam Mitchell and only then did the Hawks make a move.
The Hawks supporters should actually be thanking us - rather than insulting us - for their current form!!
Love watching the pies lose, nothing better.
Maynard should get suspended for life
Flogs back.
@@cantbegood7 yes you certainly are
Democratic woke world logic, you can lose but still be winner. Give everyone a ribbon , yayyyy.
Hawks season also over, will lose their next 3 and miss the 8
even if they don't lose the next few games they might not make the 8. nothing to be ashamed of and you know as well as I do they'll be a force to be reckoned with next year
Well if you beat pies you lose In next 2 games ..payback 😅😅😅
Gcs ess geel .maybe adel beat hawthorn demons😅😅
Hawthorn are a much better chance of making the 8 compared to the one hit wonder colliwobbles
Nothing better than watching Collingwood lose 🤣
That’s what ya get Craig! PMSL 😂😂😂
🪄 *Wizard* 🧙♂️X 🤫 *G I N N I* 🌻🌷🥀.
Yes those flowers are jack fanta😅
@@stevesalkas9128thanks for ginni and the upgrade on second round pick 🎉