"Slippery Slope!" Julia Hartley-Brewer HITS OUT At Rishi Sunak Smoking Ban
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- TalkTV's Julia Hartley-Brewer hits out at the Government’s new smoking ban, after Rishi Sunak pushed through the vote in the House of Commons.
MPs voted 383 to 67, majority 316, to give the Tobacco and Vapes Bill a second reading.
The legislation, seen by the Prime Minister as a key part of his long-term legacy, would make it illegal to sell tobacco products to anyone born after January 1 2009, with the aim of creating a “smoke-free” generation.
It does not criminalise current smokers, but is aimed at preventing the harms caused by smoking, the leading causes of preventable illness and death in the UK.
Conservative MPs were given a free vote on the bill, meaning those who voted against the Government’s position will not face punishment.
Julia says: “It is a slippery slope, and inevitably it will become a laughing stock!”
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People will just buy black market cigarettes, so well done sunak more money in criminals pockets
💯 he hasn’t got a clue.
Yes he's helping HIS Countrymen to make money !
My thoughts exactly.
well theres already so many guns and drugs on the black market thats to easy to buy i wouldnt be surprised
Could we not keep the tobacco and ban the sunak instead 😊
Why not ban both - neither is good for you!
@adama8570 why ban anything, why subjugate to someone else's point of view, freedom should have no restrictions.
@@goldenhands7024 Where is the freedom for those who HAVE TO PAY for other peoples chosen addiction????????
@@goldenhands7024until someone blows a cigarette in your face whilst you’re innocently walking on the street.
Are you an addict of tobacco?
What a joke this country is...
Yeah it's a joke when you spend your time doing nothing but drinking beer and having a smoke afterwards. A good decision to ban smoking
@@NewOld-wc4ifI agree. I see a civilised and forward looking country.
@@NewOld-wc4ifAh so I assume you are more than happy that your taxes will go up to recuperate the £8billion a year loss this will bring?
Cool. Better your money than mine.
@@dannypatrick9361 the NHS spend trying to help mooks with lung cancer far outweighs that tax loss
@@dannypatrick9361more could be saved if the ultra rich paid their taxes properly instead.
OMG I'm not a smoker but this country is slipping into a dictatorship with what we can't do or say.
You may disagree with the policy but its been passed by a clear majority by an elected parliament. We live in a representative democracy, we literally vote for MPs to vote on legislation, its the complete opposite of a dictatorship.
@@testudohorsfieldii7052the government passing policies on the choices people make without a public vote is pretty dictatorial mate, but yeah, it's not like they've forced anything else on the public in the last few years, right?
@@testudohorsfieldii7052 DEMOCRACY ? Are you kidding
@ajayb4651 no its not, do you know how many bills are passed in an average parliament? Are you suggesting the public get a direct referendum on every bill passed?
@colingreen6950 no I am not kidding, democracy doesn't mean the government only passes laws you approve of pal.
There is a bigger cost on illegal immigrants but hey
He should have banned the burka instead.
Correct
Distraction policy
Well said next week how to knit a tea cosy
@@dinaworkman306 back to ice cream and cookie sizes while actual food is destroyed and burned
In the meantime they all have their snouts in the trough
There are many more laws discussed in Parliament. That's how the legislative process works. You can go and distract yourself with another piece of legislation, you have the freedom to choose 😂
@@dinaworkman306 What for, teas next caffeine.....
PROHIBITION never works!!!
Ban at work helped me quit, me and a few others.
Well to an extent it does, but at the cost of criminalising people who previously weren't criminals and empowering real criminals, who then provide the prohibited item to the consumers.
We have to fund the Mafia somehow.
@wesleyrodgers886 yeah but your name is Wesley...
How are they getting away with this? The government is there to work for us. Not to dictate to us. This has to be put to a vote!!!!
But since covid, as was predicted, they got away with dictatorial bs via BJ, and that they'd try it on again and again. Folk shouldve ignored the rule breaking fks back then. Simples.
He is ruled by the American Obama
Instead of banning smoking it's about time they banned the fucking rubber boat coming across the channel
What an odd thing to say
@@malloc5014Move along degenerate.
What a good idea. But they have no intention of doing so.
@@malloc5014not odd. ban the scun in rubber boats
First they came for the smokers, then they came for the drinkers, then they came for the meat eaters, then they came for the chocolate cake, then it was singing and dancing, no Xmas, no holidays there's a pattern here.
Well, the "covid experiment" taught the Authorities how easy it is to limit the behaviours, beliefs, of the population, and how such limitations in and on people's lives actually saves enormous sums for local Authorities especially - less people on the streets, less crime, less need for large police and other personnel!!
Soon it will be general curfews, after ,6pm, no individual is allowed on the streets till 7 am next day - except for" essential staff" oh and by the way their children as was during covid!!!!
Who actually wants to live to 100 in a world where you're not allowed to do anything anyway.
Not for the government to tell us what we can or cannot do. Let's not forget that they work for us. It's about time the people of this country stood up and told them where to go!
Good luck with that mate, the public are sheep who defend the very people ruining their life.
Do you keep your seat belt off and phone while driving?...or do you follow government rules?
don't they ever learn, banning something people want either puts the power in the hands of criminals or makes it more attractive. like julia said it's already banned for kids so what's the point?. next it'll be booze
America tried that! and the result was Gangsters, illegal drinking clubs, stills in the back woods and blindness/death from meths etc.
Labour will vote for assisted dying but not smoking ?!
Vote Reform to get the Britain 🇬🇧 back
@@craigtomkinson2150 Sounds good in theory.... But vote for a party that's filling up with ex reds and blues 😔
anyone of them is a choice the people should make. not a MP
The commie depopulation playbook
In the future those who want to smoke will just get those who were born before 2009 to buy them for them.
How’s the war on drugs going
The next Ban is Alcohol, then women voting,
Stop trying to put a positive spin on this.
Gave me a actual lol, wasn't expecting this reply. Not sayin I agree, it was just funny@@alexcampbell3032
Ban on smoking today, alcohol tomorrow and so on. Freedom of choice for all!
I smoked for years (my choice) I gave up smoking years ago (also my choice). I would never take people’s rights away.
Is the right to smoke a fundamental right in your opinion? Can you please tell me at least one good thing related to cigarettes or smoking? I personally just see sources of problems: cancers, pollution, bad smell in the air, money wasted to cure people, death, etc. So I think it's a stupid right to have.
A ban on your thoughts is already happening too
That's how I think
@paole9729 that's not the point.
@huflungdung9334 I perfectly got the point. Let me ask you this, so you can understand my thinking: Shall we give people the right to kill? I mean, that's also a right, a freedom to choose that was taken away when it was classified as a crime, correct? 😉
Personal freedom should end where it can affect others, and as per my response above, smoking affects others in many ways.
no permission from nanny. you’re not allowed to go to the disco either. you & your mates can’t get together in groups larger than 3 in case someone finds it offensive. the list of bollocks is endless, this smoking restriction is the thin end of the wedge.
Disco though 😂😂😂😂
The kids aren't allowed youth clubs or mentors, they're being herded from one institution to another.
you will still be able to buy tobacco from the same people that sell cannabis
The black market must be rubbing their hands together. This is Christmas come early.
At an extortionate price 🤣🤣
@@leesharp569 *Cheaper. Buying off criminals doesn't come with tax, which makes up a large price on cigs from the shop.
Exactly. Pure genius idea.
Yup. I pay £8 for 50g’s of tobacco. In the shop it’s £20 for 32g
Those born after 2009 will be at the mercy of dealers. How thick are MPs?
Well its official we are run bye dictators 💙💯
So when are we banning drinking as well? Since that costs the NHS and the police . . . Then what after? Everyone is okay with it until it affects them i guess 🤣
Politicians need to realise that they work for us. Tobacco also more than pays its way in taxes for the treasury.
They should be sorting out the drug problem.
You do realise nicotine is a drug right?
@@craigmcghee4 But nowwhere near as bad as cannabis, heroine or crack cocaine and the drug gangs that come with it.
@@craigmcghee4it is not rocket science to know that this person is probably talking about Class A drugs
@@craigmcghee4it is a very mild drug and is not debilitating in any way. It might affect one’s lungs or heart but it might not. It is obviously not healthy . But cannabis destroys the brain and induces mental illness and is very debilitating even in small quantities. Those who want to ban smoking support cannabis but that is often used with tobacco and smoked or smoked on its own. The harder drugs are a real danger to life and affect behaviour . Nicotine does not.
The war on drugs has been a complete failure. Banning doesn't work and only puts struggling people who need help in prison at even more expense to the taxpayer.
It's like something he came up with for a school project, before he had any real life experience of the world.
He never had real life experience, live in a bubble of money.
I am 77 and never ever smoked but I was thinking about taking it up, I fancy a big fucking cigar
lol do it!
Nice one 😂@@straightouttacornwall
Go for it
😂
I might join you and buy a couple of pipes
So much for living in a free country. Also where are they going to get the many billions of tax raised from smoking from.
it is getting mire like Russia where is the democracy gone where are the human rights gone power has gone straight to their heads madness they are putting more lives at risk if people buy on the black market like drugs anything can be in them
That's OK, we will save more in cost to the NHS and the economy, plus I would have thought people not dying from lung cancer would kind of outweigh money from cigarettes but clearly not for some people!
@testudohorsfieldii7052 aye and lose billions on tax money all the while the black market tobacco dealers make billions and the smoker cheaper tobacco. Next overweight people no chocolate drinkers no alcohol then what meats then going on holidays
Smoking costs the economy more than it raises in taxes , that’s not an opinion it’s FACT , plus you can smoke as much as you like it’s for the future generations
They’ll take it from vapers. They already are.
Tobacco will become more lucrative than heroin
It will give illegal suppliers carte blanche to peddle undercover at inflated prices
Heroins not around anymore. It’s changed
I feel like the Tories read 1984 as an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale.
Wouldn't rescricting seed oils in foods prevent much more preventable illnesses?
🎯
Let's have an inquiry regarding excess deaths in the UK Mr sunak. Its rather taboo..
Nothing to do with sitting for 8 hours a day. While some of us that do the heavy lifting in society actually smoke and would work their office colleagues under the table. Funny that 🤷🏽♂️
I smoke but dont drink alcohol,i say ban alcohol completely but alot of non smokers wouldnt agree with that 😮
@trixiek942I think you missed the point of the post.
A think this person's is basically saying all the people that want the smoking banned probably drinks alcohol which is equally bad for you however they would be ok with a smoking ban but not an alcohol ban.
What a mute
Alcohol next
Ministers want to rule your life.
Agreed 👍 All of them except for the minister of silly walks and the minister of ticklish behaviour. 😁
Edit: Ministers want to control your life.
Ruin your life you mean they hate yer guts
This will be another way for Sunaks " Countrymen " to make money from UK citizens
There’s so much tax revenue on on cigarettes if they ban it they will simply have to find that money somewhere else, that’s why NZ dropped the idea!!!!
It's okay. They can start taxing oxygen
But as more public money is used to cure people suffering from smoke related issues, this seems a sensible government approach.
@@paole9729 Hello friend, yes your quite right , but I read somewhere that there are more obesity related illness in the UK than there are smoking related, but Im thinking now the next tax will be on either fast food or sugar.
@@theflyinghamster8442 Hi :) A sugar tax was already introduced in the UK in 2018.
@@paole9729 'A sugar tax was already introduced in the UK in 2018.' - No. A tax on sugar in drinks was introduced in 2018.
What is the evidence of the efficacy of that tax in terms of health care costs when obesity is caused by more than just sugary drinks? How much has this 'saved' the NHS or how much has it paid for when since 2018 excess weight and obesity figures have continued to increase. The first thing that manufacturers of sugary soft drinks did was a) reformulate drinks to use less sugar AND b) in some cases altered, via shrinkflation, container sizes to completely side-step paying the extra taxation on their products thereby NOT levying anywhere near what the looney toons that came up with the idea imagined in additional tax revenue at all.
Supporting government overreach into what people can and cannot do is fine all the while that it agrees with something that someone happens to agree with...right up until the time that it doesn't. People should be very careful of what they allow government to control because it absolutely IS a slippery slope.
Bout time something else is picked on.Give the motorists a break for five minutes.
I hate smoking I am happy that it’s not allowed in public places but I agree that people should be free to do as they wish as long as it doesn’t effect someone else, it will be alcohols next and sharia law last
Nothing good comes from smoking: bad breath, yellow teeth, yellow fingers, cancer... plus, it costs a fortune, but if an adult wants to do that to themselves, then they should have the choice to. Like Julia pointed out; they are already age restricted for kids.
the large Tax revenue...
aye, and when they get cancer, who pays for the nhs bill? why should healthy people subsidise someone's vice. A voluntary vice,
@@SkY-hv4tw👏 Exactly 💯
@@SkY-hv4tw Well, you'd need the figures at hand, but the tax they pay on cigs plus the fact they'll probably die sooner and be claiming state pension and benefits a shorer time is going to at the very least part fund it.
@@SkY-hv4tw smokers pay enough tax on their cigarettes tobacco that goes into the NHS that’s a fact 👀👀👀👀
The state can't even stop illegal drugs so what chance have they got with cigaretes. Complete waste of time.
I’m not a smoker but if they ban it, they might as well do the same with alcohol, fast food and anything else that is deemed harmful to the human body.
As much of a home goal as the hate law in Scotland 😩
Vote Reform uk
The black market must be rubbing it's hands in glee
Will the authorities employed to.enforce the law.use the same tactics when cautioning under age smokers as they do with cannabis users in the late night clubs ?...I.E..let them off with a smack on the wrist
Ridiculous legislation..unworkable and plays into the hands of suppliers and fixers....anyway.
What's to stop older people buying for them
@trixiek942 thereby giving illegal sources carte blanche to peddle undercover
@trixiek942 isn't it ALREADY 18 to buy bac from a tax raising shop store ¿?
My grandma used to smoke my father used to smoke ,i start smoking since i was 11 and am still here 60 + later
A great example of new generations learning from their parents' mistakes 😂
So? It also caused thousands of deaths a year. I don't agree with this ban, but your statement of 'oh I'm fine' is absolutely ridiculous.
It's a huge win for the black market . Immigration immigration immigration
Yet another WASTE of time & MY MONEY, even worse an erosion of My FREEDOM & choice 😊
Freedom to do choose something that has no benefit but is just a source of problems (health, pollution, bad smell, etc)? Wow, what an important, fundamental option to have in life 😂
@@paole9729 that's their choice though... 🤷♂️ you seem to be missing the point...
@xLionsxxSmithyx Hi Lions, I get the point, but as the choice to smoke affects others, our environment and our public money, than it is not a choice to have. Do companies have the choice of polluting our rivers? No, because that's forbidden.
@@paole9729 which is why a Compromise has to be made just like a Compromise is made with those companies... so that we can all move forward without the impeachment of our rights and without our freedom of Choice being taken away against our will...
Grant smokers the choice to smoke outside of Designated Smoke-free zones, Smoke free zones would be places with High foot traffic, like Transport stations, Bus Stops, areas around Shopping centers ect ect...
Burkas next
Will the houses if commons still have the only indoor smoking bar in the UK?
We really need to VOTE OUT the tories and NOT vote awful labour in, but VOTE REFORM.
Teach these dictators a lesson.
Voting does nothing. All rigged. Do not ever vote your vote never matters
Oh my sweet summer child, you really think Reform have your best interests at heart?
Just don’t 😂 rip up your vote and blockade the polling stations lol
@@malloc5014so who else then?
I'm an ex smoker so OK with bans, but also as an ex retail worker, and friend to current retail workers, this is going to be real bad. And it'll fund a black market.
I'd rather we had Designated Non-Smoking zones such as Shopping Centres, Middle of town, Markets, Bus stations, Bus Stops, ect ect....
Like if people want a smoke they should do it where they won't be puffing smoke into the faces of crowds of people...
But to tell people they can't smoke at all... that's just wild.
They'll be trying to stop us breathing next 😂
He doesn't drink alcohol ,or smoke so the rest of us can't. The start dictatorship in the UK. Everything that's going on in England and he's focusing on smoking bans thank you sunak for showing us why we pay you.
Am I missing something here. Once they’re over 16 years old who’s going to check how old they are? Smoke and mirrors once again.
People will only complain that they have to pay extra tax 😂😂
How about the cost to NHS, crime, violence, car crashes due to alcohol?
Totally backwards. What would work is legalisation of all drugs, taxed and regulated, and put some of those taxes into NHS rehab and the rest into NHS as a whole.
Growing up they advertised cigarettes now the cost is huge with large taxes on it… I’ve seen more young people vaping in the last few years than I have smoking cigarettes
Although I am a smoker banning smoking, won't stop young kids smoking cannabis, which the gov,want to tax. Double standards, unenforceable.
New Zealand were going to do this but then they saw sense and changed their mind. The UK is stupid.
It’ll be swearing next.
A swear box ?
Has the prime minister not looked at the history of prohibition?
Even the PM'S April Fools jokes are delayed.
Love how people are more upset about this then anything in the policing bills...
Tax from smoking is paying for the NHS so we will get taxed elsewhere to cover the money
How about addressing the nutrition empty garbage labeled as ‘food’ causing so many health problems?…including body ‘positivity’!!! Diabetes is our biggest issue.
Never been a smoker but I totally disagree with this. People already can't smoke indoors in public, which I agree with, but who the hell do politicians think they are telling people what life choices they are allowed to make. This is a slippery slope.
What a complete and utter idiotic suggestion, government needs to concentrate on far more important things for example adults and children going hungry ; homelessness , creating new jobs, building a better environment for all ,our country needs bigger and better hospitals more doctors and nurses , but all the so called educated fit to run a country can come up with is to come up with a smoking ban oh lord is our country in trouble real trouble
They say we spend x amount of billions on surgeries for smokers i dont want to know the amount of money spent on it i want a break down of exactly what that cost is not just throwing out a number
It would definitely be interesting to compare smoker costs to the NHS vs tax revenue generated by cigs. You can also add in the fact that non-smokers are generally going to live longer. That's more money in state pension and benefits.
@sonictelephone1526 yes but my point was let's 15 billion a year spent on smoking surgeries right? If 1million people a year have that operation is spending 15k per operation so just to calculate it out there is not a million people a year in the uk being operated on for smoking that's my point I want a full break of paying the surgeons cost of gauss and tubing and so fourth just throwing arbitrary numbers out makes it sound worse then it is 408k people last year were in hospital last year for smoking not all of them would have been operated so let's just say 100k were operated on that then makes it 150k per surgery which means what ? It's means that a majority of that is going towards paying staff and some towards materials that's my point Break it down fully not just throwing numbers out there it's all well and good saying oh this type of person cost this much per year then say 15 billion then only 10000 operations take place that what I mean by break it down probably 70 to 80 % of that 15 billion definitely goes to paying hourly rates of surgeons not on the supplies
So we definitely aren't going down the German and Dutch legislation of puff road then are we. Just the tax alone is in the Billions a year.
I am not and never have been a smoker of any kind,but if people want to do it then no-one should have the right to say they cant ,yes it is a slippery slope ,dont stand it,you are correct Julia 😊
So everyone stops smoking, tobacco companies go bust everyone pays a LOT more tax. Ithink that is what they want.
Prime example when you have a jobs worth running the country into the ground. Making stupid law's that don't count for anything while jetting around the world costing the tax payers £14 million.
The Tories used to accuse Labour of wanting to create a Nanny State!
How can you legitimately apply the law unevenly, unfairly or selectively? You immediately create discrimination under the law, which is illegal, is it not?
I'm ashamed to be classed as a British citizen joke of a country or should I say dictatorship 😡
You can take my nicotine from my cold, dead fingers and not a moment before.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
god forbid people have something to help them cope with the way things are going in 2024
I live in New Zealand I do not smoke. It costs 2 hours minimum wages for 1 packet of smokes….. it worked for a while now it’s vaping… crime has gone up to support smoking…
Prohibition Does not …… the governments are taking control of everything….
Make it illegal for everyone or don’t make it illegal at all. Why discriminate??
I used to laugh at the concept of the "nanny state"
more fool me!
if your banning smoking you have to ban alcohol. it will never happen. why not ban illegal immigrants instead?
I don’t smoke, but I would always defend people’s freedom of choice to do it.
Bans on speech, now smoking if anyone doesnt think this list is going to grow is alseep, they will add item by item everyone sits back and agrees, until suddenly they are knocking at your door because you did something you thought was nothing but is now illegal!!!
I love to smoke, and on 40 a day why are you trying to take this away from me it is my right to be allowed i will go to prison first
One way ticket to dictatorship. Don't give up any of tour freedom. Just educate people
Amongst all the chaos wishi washi rishi can only think about banning dogs, smoking, vapes and god knows what else.
If they Ban Smoking.......Then they need to Ban all alcohol.....both just as bad as each other in my book !
The trouble is, non smokers, like me, will have to make up the shortfall in tax currently levied on tobacco products. So banning smoking hits me in the pocket.
This country is already a world wide laughing stock 😂😂😂😂😅😅
video unavailable, had to reload page several times to get it to show, how will shop keepers tell if you were born after 2009 cut off times as you get older, most shop keepers wont look at an id card the older you get and just sell them to people that look old enough.
Maybe need official tattoo with birth date somewhere visible, way things are going, wouldn't put it past them.
Shouldn’t it be the choice of individuals?
Slippery slope? What are the going to ban next, other toxic substances.
People outraged to find we don't love in a free country where the government is willing to ban or control toxic substances
I think that my point was in the last message that I wrote on here is that most teenagers before flavoured vapes had a no tolerance for tobacco, they literally didn't like anything about it but now thanks to vapes those teenagers are vaping because they don't see like smoking, so it's ridiculous that they even made vaping and for those 14 year old kids at high school who probably have been vaping now won't be able to legally, no one should have the right to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own bodies, i don't condone kids doing it at all, I just think its a slippery slope when you start dictating what people can do, how about they ban some of what the rich have been doing thats bad for them and see how quickly they react to that
Freedom of choice, absolutely agree; however, the individual alone should pay for the consequences of his or her choices, not society.
I believe if your parents smoke you're setting a tone for thier children and they tend to be smokers as well however i dont support this nanny state solution. What will be next? And what about taxation tobacco product is a big source of national income. Is the government really going to give that up?
One of the few occasions, I find myself on the same page as Ms Hartley-Brewer.
Our country really does have it's priorities completely wrong. I give up.... All distractions from the real problems.