After some research my top candidate right now is Beyerdynamic Xelento Wireless for $$$ and Shure SE215 bluetooth (still) for $$ budgets. We need more of theeese videos!
Holy shit, the amount of riding snobs in this comment section. Yeah, some of us like to listen to music while we ride. It makes the experience more enjoyable for us. Also some of us ride for hours on end every single day, and it gets boring. Music becomes a background noise, but something that's more enjoyable than constant wind noise. It's not that distracting, so chill out. Either way though, at least we're all riding. Stay safe guys.
Thank you! Well said. Too many know it alls in the comment section that the only research they’ve ever done is their personal opinion. Gold Wing riders have been using helmet mounted speakers for decades and I haven’t seen any undue Goldwing accidents due to it. Any product on the market is as safe as you use....or abuse it. One could drive their sports car down the Blvd way over the speed limit windows up and blasting their audio system full volume. That would be an example of abuse.
Haha spoken like a true rider mate! Personally, I waited until I had a few months practice before listening to music but you're right, it's not distracting in the slightest when listening to music. I use earplugs (to mitigate environmental noise) & Bluetooth helmet speakers and I feel no compromise in regards to safety (can still hear sirens and horns fine, those sounds actually stand out a lot more).
Sony Linkbuds S are in my opinion the best option. I just picked up a pair and they are awesome. They have ANC that works pretty well and they are small enough to fit in my ears inside the helmet without being uncomfortable. I tried the Sony XM4 and the ANC was a little better but the headphones were too big to fit comfortably in the helmet. ANC (active noise canceling) helps reduce road and bike noise.
I really wish Ryan could do an updated version of this video, maybe include Bluetooth options as well because I'm really lost going through all the options available out there
He doesn't know enough to realise that blocking out a major sense in an already vulnerable situation is an idiots charter. It's only one stop short of riding blindfolded.
My favorite tune to sing is usually on the 300th mile of nothing and goes like this. LAALALALLLLALLALLLLLLAAAALLALLALALLALALALLALALLL OOOOOOOLALALLALLALALLALLALALLALALLALLALALLALALA EEWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLALLLALALLALALL Its a classic that might sound familiar to you. Thanks I will take music along from now on.
I'm sixty years old, was an aircraft mechanic for 33 years, and have less than mediocre hearing. So I use Bose Noise Canceling ear buds, a FiiO A3 headphone amplifier, and my android phone. When traveling on my FJR1300a. With a mini sd card, in my Galaxy phone, as well as Pandora, Spotify, Tunein Radio, and Audible(to listen to books, on a long trip), it's a great setup for solo riding. More than enough volume for me. The Bose buds cancel out about 75% of wind and road noise. Music sound quality is excellent. NOTE ; However, you also won't hear emergency vehicles. Although I don't hear them now, when I'm in my car, and have the radio on. These ear buds are almost $300, but the sound quality is Bose quality. They're rechargeable, and using a full face helmet, you'll get at least eight hours of riding time on a charge. Probably quite a bit more for you young guys, because you won't use as much volume as I do. The FiiO A3 amp, will go about 16 hours on a charge. This setup cost me less than $400.
@@aarondennis1894 The current gen of the ear buds he recommends can be bought with a blue tooth connecting wire. This video mentions the memory foam tips that can be bought separately and put on any buds. Look up what you consider to be the best or best value true wireless and fit them with the comply tips from this video and you've got your answer.
Ryan, I followed your advice and bought some M6 Pro earbuds. I’ve tried a few different styles over the years, but these earbuds are the first that happily stay in place when fitting a helmet, stay in place while riding, sound awesome and block out enough external noise. Thanks for the tip!
@@madsfrancke6538 You might want to wear a balaclava made of silk or wick away-fabric like coolmax. The helmet slides easily on, in-ears stay put, plus they keep your helmet's liner clean.
I don't even need speakers/earbuds (already have a sena), but I came to watch anyway because your videos are always informative af. Subscribed. Also, it's advisable to wear earplugs with speakers. It helps remove the tinnyness from them (my sena sounds better with earplugs in), and you prevent hearing damage over time.
NxJNightHawk +1 on the earplugs + Sena. I personally have earasers and prefer them over the the nonoise. Only problem, my hear canals are two different sizes.
I followed his advice and got the M6-Pro. I spent nearly $500 on a Momentum INC noise-reduction helmet (great for phone, crap for music) and for a year now I had been looking at the $1000 NR earbuds but I couldn't afford to pull that trigger. Listen to this guy, OMG he pairs the M6-Pro with foam inserts. BOOM! I finally have tunes in my ears at hiway speeds! Excellent advice, excellent perspective. thanks, thanks.
All my earbuds I've owned over the last 5 years have Comply tips added. They definitely make the sound of the earbuds much better, good noise cancellation, and keep earbuds firm in place.
Hi Ryan. i bought a cardo pactalk bold for my helmet as a christmas present to myself and when i set it all up i only had the helmet on my head for about 10 minutes and the speakers were digging in my ears. So plan b was needed. i watched your vlog and i ended up buying the M6 Pro earbuds from Amazon. only £34 UK pounds bargain. they arrived today and they are awesome. the problem has been resolved. No more ear ache and the sound quality is brilliant. So thank you to you for your good advice. i am well chuffed
SO GLAD YOU WENT WITH THE M6s!! I recommend MEElectric ear phones to EVERYONE! I buy multiples of the $15 version because I lose them every six months or so. Very great design for not getting caught or uncomfortable in the helmet. Easy to put the helmet on because they are low profile.
Great review. Not tried the M6 but I have used different other types including three active noise cancelling devices. So far the Bose Quietcomfort 20 w active noise cancellation has no match and worth a try. It Cancel out all wind noise so you don’t need to keep sound loud to hear well. Works great on planes etc too to remove background noise. A bit pricey though
the new airpods with noise cancelling are really good and they have the added benefit of saving your hearing. If you use plain old headphones without noise cancelling you’re just cranking up the volume and adding to an already loud environment.
Need update… I don’t even use anything with a 3.5mm jack anymore, need best Bluetooth option. I think neckband style is especially fitted to motorcycling, pulling a bud out when taking your helmet off isn’t a big deal, they last 50+ hours in some cases so recharging isn’t an issue, you don’t have to fiddle with a tws case, just pop them down and go, or throw the whole thing in saddlebags ect.
if you order the sena mount kit with audio jack on amazon, it lets you use any speakers or any earbuds with your existing sena headset. Its only like $30.
ive had these ear buds for ages and they are amazing with blocking out sound and having you hear the music but they dont block out all the sound so your still well aware of your surroundings
Used Shure se215s for about 18 months before pulling the trigger on sena 20s. Shure buds PROS: 1.price. 2. Sound quality + noise isolation. As long as the bud didn't become unseated while donning my helmet, it gave the best riding + music experience. 3. No charging/simplicity. CONS: 1. Comfort only lasts for approx 45 minutes. After that, usually one, occasionally both, of my ears would begin aching like crazy inside of the tragus. I assume caused by prolonged slight pressure against it. After about 60-75 minutes it becomes unbearable and I have to remove helmet and buds and either take a break for 20-30 minutes or just go ear-plugs-only till the next stop. Add to that, the drawbacks of cords, buds becoming unseated from cord pulls... it just wasn't worth it anymore. Sena 20s PROS: 1.Comfort. Which is MOST important while riding for me. When installed properly, you don't feel the speakers touching (helmet dependent). 2. Convenience. Turn it on, connects to your phone, put helmet on, hit the voice command button, say 'play music'. Done. 3. Intercom + other features. Talking to pillion on command is very cool. Also phone calls where the other party can't tell i'm on the bike! Impressive. 4. Ambient sound mode. Outer mic picks up ambient sound and amplifies it into speakers so you can have a conversation without removing helmet. Enabled and disabled by a double tap of button. Easy. 5. No touchscreen. Anything I need to do can be done with physical buttons on the sena unit. Next/prev song, volume, enable intercom, ambient mode, voice command prompt. CONS: 1. Sound quality. So many people said how good these things sound. 20s sounds decent at best. I was right to be skeptical. I ride with earplugs so I don't expect loud, clear, perfect audio. I didn't understand how they wouldn't sound like headphones when you pull them away from your ears... well that's how they sound. But I keep the volume as low as I can (which is not very) while still being able to hear the music over any wind/engine noise. It's definitely 'background music' as opposed to immersive with the shure se215s. 2. Better be charged when you want to use it. Battery lasts all day as long as you remembered to charge the night before. Not a big deal. 3. Voice commands, app, user interface not quite there. If i'm riding I have to YELL 'PLAY MUSIC' in an overly annunciated way for it to work. Which is odd because I have perfect phone conversations in my normal speaking voice. I've only opened the app like twice. Clunky layout. Bottom line: under 30 minutes I use shure earbuds. Over 30 minutes I go with the Sena + no-noise plugs. I want a setup like the sena that utilizes over-ear headphone style speakers in the helmet. Would probably have to be a collaboration with the helmet manufacturer, but seems like it's possible. If you can do drop down sun visors, you can do retractable ear cups....
I own the Shure SE215 earphones - but as good as these are for sound (and are superb). They are difficult to put a helmet over the top on. As soon as you slide the helmet down, the ear compresses and they pop out.
damn it really? how easy does it pop out? i really wanted to get those cuz they look so flush and it hooks to your ears. My regular ear buds pop out once in a while but the whole thing actually fits inside my ear.
gwot - Firstly I have funny sized ears anyway, so could be that! I have looked at custom moulds to fit them to help. But many times I put the helmet on, and one will pop out. It becomes a real nuisance!!
gwot I got these as well and have no problem when putting the helmet on, but they sometimes pop out when taking it off. I'm generally cheap when it comes to these things but after my first ride with them I didn't regret the purchase for a second!
As noted by others - please be sure to differentiate between 'noise cancellation' and 'noise isolation'. Having used plenty (though not the ones reviewed) of earbuds and helmet speakers, I can say with authority that the Bose QuietComfort 20 Acoustic Noise Cancelling headphones are the very best. They are a little bulky, so taking your helmet on/off takes some practice. But, the results are phenomenal - and I challenge anyone to provide a better solution. The down-side is the price - these are definitely an investment. The upside is you are not destroying your hearing trying to blast music over-top of road-noise.
Problem is, earbuds in both ears is illegal in most states here in the US. Will you get caught? Ehh...Maybe? If you get pulled over, probably. But, still illegal. I just have a Sena system, turn the volume to max, then pop in regular reusable earplugs (like what you'd use at a construction site). Drops the wind noise almost altogether and then also drops the music down to the PERFECT volume. And, strangely, it doesn't ruin the sound quality, either.
There are maybe 10 that earbuds are illegal in, definitely not "most states". www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/10/31/is-it-legal-to-wear-headphones-while-driving/
I want to go for the earplugs but I have a small ear canal so normal headphones/earplugs don't fit me as they just fall out instantly hence I use "Bose IE2" (google it's image) which have that inner rubber around the ear that hold it inside perfectly. Are there any earplugs as good as the nonoise one's you listed that are similar to the Bose IE2 in terms of the hold? I tried to google this for hours and couldn't find anything. Im sure with your knowledge you can help me out! Thanks!
I have the uclear amp pro bluetooth setup and I love it, has an intercom mode like the sena. Completely changes the riding experience being able to point things out to other people riding with you.
A new review would be much appreciated. So many Bluetooth options out there. My wife uses Air Pod Pros. They fit under the helmet better than originals, but tend to drop to the ground when removing the helmet. Not sure how many more drops they will last.
I use the SHURE SE215's I HIGHLY recommend them. OR Klipsche s4i's RUGGED. (Discontinued) I work on my moto as a courier all day long and i need 3 things. Good quality(Build and sound), Noise Reduction, and comfort for long rides. They've lasted for about 2 years and have choices for bud sizes. Trust me when i say Ive been shopping for years to look for something that will Fit all 3 and its NOT a market we're much catered to.
Yup these are hands down the best. Love the sound isolation (lets just enough traffic noise through). Also love the disconnect at the ear in case of an emergency, and the super long cord. These need to be on this list!
Watching this in 2019. Just got the M6 Pro (second generation) for $50 on Amazon. He’s right, they sound great for the price. They work well and don’t get bunched up when taking my helmet on/off
Yet another example of why FortNine is THE BEST moto vlog/moto info source around! How could I never have heard of memory foam tips for earbuds? I ride with my AirPod pro’s and love that they are noise cancelling and wireless. But I can never get a precise seal. Well, thanks to FortNine, I have a set of memory foam tips on the way. Thanks for the TIP(s)!
NO. Imperial needs to be converted to metric, but not the other way around. How do you expect murica to finally switch if you keep chewing it for them?
Took your advice with the M6 earbuds, Hands down the worst earbuds I've ever used with a helmet, takes 5 attempts taking helmet on and off as the hardened memory cord either gets pinned behind your causing massive discomfort or it catches on your helmet liner and rips out of your ear, same with removing helmet. they rotate and force you to slide helmet off with earbuds pinned against the side of your head. Multiple helmet brands tested all with same results.
I think you're wearing the earbuds wrong if this happened that many times. I put the earbuds in with memory foam tips, straight out of the box, and slid my snugly-fit helmet over with zero problems, discomfort or displacement of cords/buds. Perfect fit first time. Your comment made me skeptical at first, glad I didn't listen. Best $50 I've spent in a long time.
I've been using plugups earbuds for a couple years and wont even start the bike without them anymore. Just make for a great day of riding and very secure and comfortable.
I bought a pair of Shure SE215's and never looked back - exactly what I need, but I understand everyone is different. I will never be a fan of Bluetooth audio - you can't help but lose audio fidelity, and faffing around with chargers ain't my idea of convenience. The Shures have got those memory foam ear buds with the metal cable that wraps around behind your ears and I've ridden for hours and hours on end in total comfort and audiophile bliss- plus the sound cancelling is so good I can quite happily put my music volume down to its very lowest setting and still hear it clearly over what wind noise does make it through - it's a definite recommendation from me
This man is a hero! i'm about to buy my first bike (a second-hand kawasaki vulcan S) and i wouldn't have been so prepared if it weren't for your videos! thanks buddy!!!
Remember correctly, where I live in New York state it is. But I still do and I highly doubt that any officer is actually going to know about that, let alone check. If they really want to cite me for wearing two earbuds, then they can "go pound salt" as my grandfather would say.
I was told it was, but that makes much more sense in a car where you're already separated acoustically from the reset of the world. On a bike there's no door between you and the rest of the world and can still hear very well with plugs or phones.
Yup. I've had one pair for over three years. Every so often I pull off the baffles and wash them off. My biggest problem is controlling the device they are plugged into!
I've watched a few of your videos and everyone mentions the high quality of your videos, which is definitely true. What I really appreciate however, is the amount of research you put into each video. Just subscribed & thanks for the great content!
Us Texas folk don't rightly know how to take you fellers North O' the border. That there being said, I've been waiting to pull the trigger (as we say here) or sittin' on the fence (as we also say here) on them there Uclear digital speakers and those danged MEE M6-Pro earbuds for well over a year. You know, money don't grow on trees here (it's a liquid that squirts out of the ground) and us here Texans ain't millionaires (oh, yeah, WE ALL are), so I've been patiently waiting on a sign from sweet baby Jesus to make these purchases. Turns out that you, Mr. Ryan, are that gall-danged sign. Thank ya kindly, Pilgrim, an' God bless.
I've tried in helmet speakers and it confirmed what I already suspected. You either have to crank the volume to hear above the wind noise, or wear earplugs to shut out the wind noise, and crank the volume to hear above the earplugs. I've used the M6 Pro's and Shure SE215's, but I prefer the cheap AKG Y23 earphones. They're tiny, do not dislodge putting on a helmet as I found the others to do, and seal out the wind noise pretty well, especially if you get the matching Comply foam tips.
I bought the ME 6 PRO. Came with an optional cable with microphone. I use these on my bike and also while traveling on aircraft. Amazing sound dampening and frequency response.
Get a bluetooth adapter clip, run the wire through your sleeve and put the clip at the rim. You can now control music without taking out the phone or taking your gloves off. Stealthy.
can't speak for the MEE M6, however I can for the shure se215 you compared them too, being my daily driver headphones with the memory foam buds they're honestly fantastic for riding, even without music. they cut wind and road noise to just the right level in my opinion, and are very comfortable even under a helmet. they also have a fantastic sound
Awesome video with quite a bit of knowledge. I recently purchased a set of the M6 Pros (2nd Gen) and let me tell you: these headphones are perfect for riding. I tested the quality with an open-face helmet + goggles and the noise isolation worked surprisingly well. I originally rode with a pair of Bose SoundSport headphones (open concept). They do let in quite a bit of sound, so the M6 Pros (2nd Gen) are quite a step up. Well done with the product review. The M6 Pros are an excellent choice for riding. Props.
Good taste man, if I ever would have used earbuds I think I already would have used those in ear monitors. One of the best deals period no matter what your using them for.
Custom molded earbuds with race-quality drivers inserted. Blocks noise really well with 34dBa+ reduction and sounds okay. Don’t need to crank up the volume as all the road/wind noise is gone.
Have you heard of plugphones? probably one of my favorite ways to listen to music while riding. They are earplugs + head phones and work exactly as described.
I'm impressed you didn't mention grabbing any top tier low price low impedance computer headphones for 20$, gutting them and simply replacing anything Sena or Cardo comes with with a solder tool is just the best option you can have.
Me? I can't listen to music while I'm riding, I don't even, ever talk on my phone's Bluetooth in the CAR. I mean, I don't like talking on the phone anyway. . . at anytime. . . EVER. I guess I find the intense focusing to be the therapeutic part of riding. On my 1st 600 mile trip on my '05 Bandit (after >10 yrs. out of the saddle) I put in my foam earplugs (favs) & entertained myself by talking to/complaining at the cagers around me. I dunno, it passed the time pretty well. Music would be too much distraction for me. Thanks anyway, Ryan. Keep on keepin' on with the vids. 😁
been using my wireless in-ear headphones while riding for several years now - such a pleasure. Have tried fitting the speakers of my Cardo Packtalk slim in my 2 helmets (Arai and LS2) and had to take them out as just too uncomfortable with painful pressure on my ears
Another ear bud option at half the price is earfuze ear buds. The come with a two part moldable foam to create an earplug around the ear bud. This increases the Bass and vastly reduces wind noise. I run about half volume at highway speeds, and the sound is great. There are a few options from stereo headsets, microphone headsets, and Bluetooth. If you have a communication unit that utilizes a 3.5mm headset, I recommend Earfuze.
You missed one class of earbud option: Bluetooth, for when you want to mount your phone on your steering stem where you can see it for GPS navigation and easily change your music selection, without having an annoying wire running from your bike to your jacket. And the best option I've found in the category is the Rowkin Bit Stereo. Tiny, no bulky battery pack, and no wires connecting the left and right buds. 2 hours of continuous music on a charge, and the magnetic battery case will re-charge them 4 times before needing to be recharged itself. The commonly-reported issues users have with volume drop outs is, oddly enough, completely mitigated by the shell of your helmet. These things work GREAT. Highly recommended.
I actually have sena smh10 but with a slight twist. I took senas speakers out and soldered in my old koss portapro speakers. They get so much more bass than sena and even so loud that my ears starts to hurt.
Get the EarPods, no hustling with wires on a perfect set that delivers clean sound, superb bass and has the quality we all know. If you think they are too loose in your ear buy the silicone adapters and your all set.
I have Sena 10S that I've taken the crappy tinny speakers out and soldered a great inexpensive set off Amazon. Works incredibly well with deep bass and full sound range. The loudness is great as well and the best part is that it's wireless. My advice for DYI, is to get a Sena and DYI a good set of speakers into it.
I know it's not likely to be read but the human ear can only hear 20hz to 20khz so anything more or less is more or less pointless. As long as the frequency response graph looks good then anything beyond doesn't much matter. What does a nice FR graph look like? Depends on what YOU like
The best ear bud I have ever used are the Skull Candy Buds. Even at +100 MPH (not KPH) without a helmet I can still clearly hear my music over the wind and my chopper's loud engine. The only problem is keeping them in my ears at any speed over 80mph.
i feel like we need an updated part 2 for 2020 as music technology has progressed and there are hopefully bluetooth options now
They have ruroc helmets that you can buy Bluetooth capability for
Agreed. It’s time for your molded Bluetooth wireless.
After some research my top candidate right now is Beyerdynamic Xelento Wireless for $$$ and Shure SE215 bluetooth (still) for $$ budgets. We need more of theeese videos!
Update: ditch the Xelento. FiiO BTR5 + Sennheiser IE 300 would be hard to beat
@@brucebillb I'm tempted to get the ie 300. Have you bit the bullet?
Holy shit, the amount of riding snobs in this comment section. Yeah, some of us like to listen to music while we ride. It makes the experience more enjoyable for us. Also some of us ride for hours on end every single day, and it gets boring. Music becomes a background noise, but something that's more enjoyable than constant wind noise. It's not that distracting, so chill out.
Either way though, at least we're all riding. Stay safe guys.
poorly reproduced audio is a good way to get headaches and even damage your hearing..Never skim on audio equipment
Thank you! Well said. Too many know it alls in the comment section that the only research they’ve ever done is their personal opinion. Gold Wing riders have been using helmet mounted speakers for decades and I haven’t seen any undue Goldwing accidents due to it. Any product on the market is as safe as you use....or abuse it. One could drive their sports car down the Blvd way over the speed limit windows up and blasting their audio system full volume. That would be an example of abuse.
Haha spoken like a true rider mate! Personally, I waited until I had a few months practice before listening to music but you're right, it's not distracting in the slightest when listening to music. I use earplugs (to mitigate environmental noise) & Bluetooth helmet speakers and I feel no compromise in regards to safety (can still hear sirens and horns fine, those sounds actually stand out a lot more).
Right you are!
Riding without music is just not the same :)
It also protects our ears
I feel like we need an updated part 2 for 2023 as music technology has progressed and there are hopefully Bluetooth options now
I feel like we need an updated part 2 for 2022 as music technology has progressed and there are hopefully Bluetooth options now
Sony Linkbuds S are in my opinion the best option. I just picked up a pair and they are awesome. They have ANC that works pretty well and they are small enough to fit in my ears inside the helmet without being uncomfortable. I tried the Sony XM4 and the ANC was a little better but the headphones were too big to fit comfortably in the helmet. ANC (active noise canceling) helps reduce road and bike noise.
Lmaooo this is just a copy paste comment
2023
I really wish Ryan could do an updated version of this video, maybe include Bluetooth options as well because I'm really lost going through all the options available out there
This man knows everything about everything!
Except how to be gay
He doesn't know enough to realise that blocking out a major sense in an already vulnerable situation is an idiots charter. It's only one stop short of riding blindfolded.
lmao as if you can hear anything except for wind anyways
Proper research and a script for your video goes a long way.
I don't care what he's talking about he's my go to guy for anything, great presentation voice.
I usually just sing while I ride.
I think everybody does that! Or maybe it's just us... ~RF9
Fort9, your voice might be good, but he is Elvis!
Elvis E Yeah Same, I sing all the Eminem’s songs.
My favorite tune to sing is usually on the 300th mile of nothing and goes like this. LAALALALLLLALLALLLLLLAAAALLALLALALLALALALLALALLL OOOOOOOLALALLALLALALLALLALALLALALLALLALALLALALA EEWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLALLLALALLALALL
Its a classic that might sound familiar to you. Thanks I will take music along from now on.
I prefer to beatbox. My helmet can get pretty gross inside though...
I'm sixty years old, was an aircraft mechanic for 33 years, and have less than mediocre hearing. So I use Bose Noise Canceling ear buds, a FiiO A3 headphone amplifier, and my android phone. When traveling on my FJR1300a. With a mini sd card, in my Galaxy phone, as well as Pandora, Spotify, Tunein Radio, and Audible(to listen to books, on a long trip), it's a great setup for solo riding. More than enough volume for me. The Bose buds cancel out about 75% of wind and road noise. Music sound quality is excellent. NOTE ; However, you also won't hear emergency vehicles. Although I don't hear them now, when I'm in my car, and have the radio on. These ear buds are almost $300, but the sound quality is Bose quality. They're rechargeable, and using a full face helmet, you'll get at least eight hours of riding time on a charge. Probably quite a bit more for you young guys, because you won't use as much volume as I do. The FiiO A3 amp, will go about 16 hours on a charge. This setup cost me less than $400.
This topic and video is due for a refresh including true wireless earbuds
@fortnine yes, please do an updated video
Yes!!! I love those ideas but I want blue tooth
Update yes, but how are bluetooth earphones any good when there is no mic possible in the helmet or is there?
Will like to know what he thinks of the Sennheiser MOMENTUM
@@aarondennis1894 The current gen of the ear buds he recommends can be bought with a blue tooth connecting wire. This video mentions the memory foam tips that can be bought separately and put on any buds. Look up what you consider to be the best or best value true wireless and fit them with the comply tips from this video and you've got your answer.
Definitely need an updated video...like before the end of November if possible so I know what to ask for Christmas 😅
Ryan, I followed your advice and bought some M6 Pro earbuds. I’ve tried a few different styles over the years, but these earbuds are the first that happily stay in place when fitting a helmet, stay in place while riding, sound awesome and block out enough external noise. Thanks for the tip!
I also bought the M6 earbuds, but my helmet is to snug and they fall off everytime I put it on :(
@@madsfrancke6538 You might want to wear a balaclava made of silk or wick away-fabric like coolmax. The helmet slides easily on, in-ears stay put, plus they keep your helmet's liner clean.
I don't even need speakers/earbuds (already have a sena), but I came to watch anyway because your videos are always informative af. Subscribed. Also, it's advisable to wear earplugs with speakers. It helps remove the tinnyness from them (my sena sounds better with earplugs in), and you prevent hearing damage over time.
NxJNightHawk good idea!
I've never had a problem with the sound quality of my 10R with proper earplugs in. One more reason Schuberths are overrated
What kind of earplugs are you using?
Good advice!
NxJNightHawk +1 on the earplugs + Sena. I personally have earasers and prefer them over the the nonoise. Only problem, my hear canals are two different sizes.
Dude, that was an incredible review.
And your knowledge on EVERYTHING motorcycle (ear buds included) is super helpful.
Take note Yammie...
I followed his advice and got the M6-Pro. I spent nearly $500 on a Momentum INC noise-reduction helmet (great for phone, crap for music) and for a year now I had been looking at the $1000 NR earbuds but I couldn't afford to pull that trigger. Listen to this guy, OMG he pairs the M6-Pro with foam inserts. BOOM! I finally have tunes in my ears at hiway speeds! Excellent advice, excellent perspective. thanks, thanks.
All my earbuds I've owned over the last 5 years have Comply tips added. They definitely make the sound of the earbuds much better, good noise cancellation, and keep earbuds firm in place.
kalel33 good to know !
Hi Ryan. i bought a cardo pactalk bold for my helmet as a christmas present to myself and when i set it all up i only had the helmet on my head for about 10 minutes and the speakers were digging in my ears. So plan b was needed. i watched your vlog and i ended up buying the M6 Pro earbuds from Amazon. only £34 UK pounds bargain. they arrived today and they are awesome. the problem has been resolved. No more ear ache and the sound quality is brilliant. So thank you to you for your good advice. i am well chuffed
Would love to hear an updated version of this video now that wireless speakers and headphones are more accessible
SO GLAD YOU WENT WITH THE M6s!! I recommend MEElectric ear phones to EVERYONE! I buy multiples of the $15 version because I lose them every six months or so. Very great design for not getting caught or uncomfortable in the helmet. Easy to put the helmet on because they are low profile.
Great review. Not tried the M6 but I have used different other types including three active noise cancelling devices. So far the Bose Quietcomfort 20 w active noise cancellation has no match and worth a try. It Cancel out all wind noise so you don’t need to keep sound loud to hear well. Works great on planes etc too to remove background noise. A bit pricey though
number 1 mod for backround music, slip on exhaust
Please do a 2020 updated version! I can't find decent (unbiased) reviews anywhere and I'm just interested in Bluetooth speakers for best music sound.
the new airpods with noise cancelling are really good and they have the added benefit of saving your hearing. If you use plain old headphones without noise cancelling you’re just cranking up the volume and adding to an already loud environment.
Need update… I don’t even use anything with a 3.5mm jack anymore, need best Bluetooth option. I think neckband style is especially fitted to motorcycling, pulling a bud out when taking your helmet off isn’t a big deal, they last 50+ hours in some cases so recharging isn’t an issue, you don’t have to fiddle with a tws case, just pop them down and go, or throw the whole thing in saddlebags ect.
I would love to see which are your picks on Bluetooth versions
same here!
if you order the sena mount kit with audio jack on amazon, it lets you use any speakers or any earbuds with your existing sena headset. Its only like $30.
I was just going to comment that here in 2020
ive had these ear buds for ages and they are amazing with blocking out sound and having you hear the music but they dont block out all the sound so your still well aware of your surroundings
I never knew King Joffery was into motorbikes.
Old joke
🤣🤣🤣 Didn't notice it before
This man cracks me up.
dude your content is golden. thanks for all the vids!
Speakers + ear protection and a silent helmet is my choice! Background music is all i need for loooong rides + phone calls is quite nice at times
Used Shure se215s for about 18 months before pulling the trigger on sena 20s.
Shure buds PROS: 1.price. 2. Sound quality + noise isolation. As long as the bud didn't become unseated while donning my helmet, it gave the best riding + music experience. 3. No charging/simplicity.
CONS: 1. Comfort only lasts for approx 45 minutes. After that, usually one, occasionally both, of my ears would begin aching like crazy inside of the tragus. I assume caused by prolonged slight pressure against it. After about 60-75 minutes it becomes unbearable and I have to remove helmet and buds and either take a break for 20-30 minutes or just go ear-plugs-only till the next stop. Add to that, the drawbacks of cords, buds becoming unseated from cord pulls... it just wasn't worth it anymore.
Sena 20s PROS: 1.Comfort. Which is MOST important while riding for me. When installed properly, you don't feel the speakers touching (helmet dependent). 2. Convenience. Turn it on, connects to your phone, put helmet on, hit the voice command button, say 'play music'. Done. 3. Intercom + other features. Talking to pillion on command is very cool. Also phone calls where the other party can't tell i'm on the bike! Impressive. 4. Ambient sound mode. Outer mic picks up ambient sound and amplifies it into speakers so you can have a conversation without removing helmet. Enabled and disabled by a double tap of button. Easy. 5. No touchscreen. Anything I need to do can be done with physical buttons on the sena unit. Next/prev song, volume, enable intercom, ambient mode, voice command prompt.
CONS: 1. Sound quality. So many people said how good these things sound. 20s sounds decent at best. I was right to be skeptical. I ride with earplugs so I don't expect loud, clear, perfect audio. I didn't understand how they wouldn't sound like headphones when you pull them away from your ears... well that's how they sound. But I keep the volume as low as I can (which is not very) while still being able to hear the music over any wind/engine noise. It's definitely 'background music' as opposed to immersive with the shure se215s. 2. Better be charged when you want to use it. Battery lasts all day as long as you remembered to charge the night before. Not a big deal. 3. Voice commands, app, user interface not quite there. If i'm riding I have to YELL 'PLAY MUSIC' in an overly annunciated way for it to work. Which is odd because I have perfect phone conversations in my normal speaking voice. I've only opened the app like twice. Clunky layout.
Bottom line: under 30 minutes I use shure earbuds. Over 30 minutes I go with the Sena + no-noise plugs. I want a setup like the sena that utilizes over-ear headphone style speakers in the helmet. Would probably have to be a collaboration with the helmet manufacturer, but seems like it's possible. If you can do drop down sun visors, you can do retractable ear cups....
Best of both worlds... use the 215's with the Sena 20S. That's what I do. Works great.
I own the Shure SE215 earphones - but as good as these are for sound (and are superb). They are difficult to put a helmet over the top on.
As soon as you slide the helmet down, the ear compresses and they pop out.
damn it really? how easy does it pop out? i really wanted to get those cuz they look so flush and it hooks to your ears. My regular ear buds pop out once in a while but the whole thing actually fits inside my ear.
gwot - Firstly I have funny sized ears anyway, so could be that! I have looked at custom moulds to fit them to help.
But many times I put the helmet on, and one will pop out. It becomes a real nuisance!!
gwot
I got these as well and have no problem when putting the helmet on, but they sometimes pop out when taking it off. I'm generally cheap when it comes to these things but after my first ride with them I didn't regret the purchase for a second!
I've solved this problem by replacing the foam tips with smaller sizes
Rory Reckless I’ll definitely give that a go!
As noted by others - please be sure to differentiate between 'noise cancellation' and 'noise isolation'. Having used plenty (though not the ones reviewed) of earbuds and helmet speakers, I can say with authority that the Bose QuietComfort 20 Acoustic Noise Cancelling headphones are the very best. They are a little bulky, so taking your helmet on/off takes some practice. But, the results are phenomenal - and I challenge anyone to provide a better solution. The down-side is the price - these are definitely an investment. The upside is you are not destroying your hearing trying to blast music over-top of road-noise.
Problem is, earbuds in both ears is illegal in most states here in the US. Will you get caught? Ehh...Maybe? If you get pulled over, probably. But, still illegal.
I just have a Sena system, turn the volume to max, then pop in regular reusable earplugs (like what you'd use at a construction site). Drops the wind noise almost altogether and then also drops the music down to the PERFECT volume. And, strangely, it doesn't ruin the sound quality, either.
Been riding with them for 6 years and out of all my pull-overs i've yet to have a cop notice them.
There are maybe 10 that earbuds are illegal in, definitely not "most states". www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/10/31/is-it-legal-to-wear-headphones-while-driving/
We want a 2023 version !!!!!!!🎉
Please do an update for 2023 😅❤❤ no one uses headphone jacks anymore
I already use Sony WI C200 Bluetooth earphones. But I still come to watch your videos, cause they are just soo awesome 👍
waiting for next motorcycle review F9 :)
We've got loads planned for 2018 :) ~RF9
I want to go for the earplugs but I have a small ear canal so normal headphones/earplugs don't fit me as they just fall out instantly hence I use "Bose IE2" (google it's image) which have that inner rubber around the ear that hold it inside perfectly. Are there any earplugs as good as the nonoise one's you listed that are similar to the Bose IE2 in terms of the hold? I tried to google this for hours and couldn't find anything. Im sure with your knowledge you can help me out! Thanks!
I have the uclear amp pro bluetooth setup and I love it, has an intercom mode like the sena. Completely changes the riding experience being able to point things out to other people riding with you.
A new review would be much appreciated. So many Bluetooth options out there. My wife uses Air Pod Pros. They fit under the helmet better than originals, but tend to drop to the ground when removing the helmet. Not sure how many more drops they will last.
This would make a much better tech review channel then anyone else!
I use the SHURE SE215's I HIGHLY recommend them.
OR Klipsche s4i's RUGGED. (Discontinued)
I work on my moto as a courier all day long and i need 3 things. Good quality(Build and sound), Noise Reduction, and comfort for long rides.
They've lasted for about 2 years and have choices for bud sizes. Trust me when i say Ive been shopping for years to look for something that will Fit all 3 and its NOT a market we're much catered to.
Yep I have worn the 215 on three rides across the country helps the miles tick by
Yup these are hands down the best. Love the sound isolation (lets just enough traffic noise through). Also love the disconnect at the ear in case of an emergency, and the super long cord. These need to be on this list!
Watching this in 2019. Just got the M6 Pro (second generation) for $50 on Amazon. He’s right, they sound great for the price. They work well and don’t get bunched up when taking my helmet on/off
Im rocking the shure 215 and its worth its price in my opinion
Yet another example of why FortNine is THE BEST moto vlog/moto info source around! How could I never have heard of memory foam tips for earbuds? I ride with my AirPod pro’s and love that they are noise cancelling and wireless. But I can never get a precise seal. Well, thanks to FortNine, I have a set of memory foam tips on the way. Thanks for the TIP(s)!
@3:47 that's ~62mph for y'all muricans
Luckyduckstr thanks
60* lol
Rexczi Cex nope it’s about 62 mph. For faster conversions 60 can be used to approximate.
James Hubert blablabla lol, when we are talking about how fast cars etc 0-60mph the same as 0-100kmh
NO. Imperial needs to be converted to metric, but not the other way around. How do you expect murica to finally switch if you keep chewing it for them?
The 'you are already deaf' tinnitus thing was too real, my heart sank because I thought mine was kicking in!
Took your advice with the M6 earbuds, Hands down the worst earbuds I've ever used with a helmet, takes 5 attempts taking helmet on and off as the hardened memory cord either gets pinned behind your causing massive discomfort or it catches on your helmet liner and rips out of your ear, same with removing helmet. they rotate and force you to slide helmet off with earbuds pinned against the side of your head. Multiple helmet brands tested all with same results.
I think you're wearing the earbuds wrong if this happened that many times. I put the earbuds in with memory foam tips, straight out of the box, and slid my snugly-fit helmet over with zero problems, discomfort or displacement of cords/buds. Perfect fit first time. Your comment made me skeptical at first, glad I didn't listen. Best $50 I've spent in a long time.
I've been using plugups earbuds for a couple years and wont even start the bike without them anymore. Just make for a great day of riding and very secure and comfortable.
Are you going to do an 2018 Mt07 review?
He has great reviews and you can always count on it being honest.
Would love a duke 390 review :D Amazing channel man, love your naration and format !
I bought a pair of Shure SE215's and never looked back - exactly what I need, but I understand everyone is different. I will never be a fan of Bluetooth audio - you can't help but lose audio fidelity, and faffing around with chargers ain't my idea of convenience. The Shures have got those memory foam ear buds with the metal cable that wraps around behind your ears and I've ridden for hours and hours on end in total comfort and audiophile bliss- plus the sound cancelling is so good I can quite happily put my music volume down to its very lowest setting and still hear it clearly over what wind noise does make it through - it's a definite recommendation from me
2023 vid update?
This man is a hero! i'm about to buy my first bike (a second-hand kawasaki vulcan S) and i wouldn't have been so prepared if it weren't for your videos! thanks buddy!!!
is it not illegal to drive using 2 earbuds in america(or where ever you are from)?
Remember correctly, where I live in New York state it is. But I still do and I highly doubt that any officer is actually going to know about that, let alone check. If they really want to cite me for wearing two earbuds, then they can "go pound salt" as my grandfather would say.
I was told it was, but that makes much more sense in a car where you're already separated acoustically from the reset of the world. On a bike there's no door between you and the rest of the world and can still hear very well with plugs or phones.
An example for youtubers.
You got yourself another subscriber, buddy!
I already have background music
1000cc's revvving from 1250-13500 rpm
Have fun with hearing loss and tinnitus I guess
@@ObitoUchihaisgay Im already deaf as hell from riding with a motocross helmet for almost 2 years now.
I feel like we need an Updated part 2 for 2023 as Music Technology has progressed and there are hopefully Bluetooth options now
I use plugfones. They seem good. Like earplugs, but headphones too.
Yup. I've had one pair for over three years. Every so often I pull off the baffles and wash them off. My biggest problem is controlling the device they are plugged into!
yeah, the remote isn't very good. other than that, can't fault 'em!
newt I have a pait of those too and they do me no good at all
explain, what is the problem?
Sadly they break so fast :(
We need an updated video !!!!!! For 2022 !!!!
Any plans to set up a recording studio like the last one here on the west coast?
Yessir. That's job #1 in the new year. ~RF9
Awesome!! Can't wait to see it :)
I've watched a few of your videos and everyone mentions the high quality of your videos, which is definitely true. What I really appreciate however, is the amount of research you put into each video. Just subscribed & thanks for the great content!
Us Texas folk don't rightly know how to take you fellers North O' the border. That there being said, I've been waiting to pull the trigger (as we say here) or sittin' on the fence (as we also say here) on them there Uclear digital speakers and those danged MEE M6-Pro earbuds for well over a year. You know, money don't grow on trees here (it's a liquid that squirts out of the ground) and us here Texans ain't millionaires (oh, yeah, WE ALL are), so I've been patiently waiting on a sign from sweet baby Jesus to make these purchases. Turns out that you, Mr. Ryan, are that gall-danged sign. Thank ya kindly, Pilgrim, an' God bless.
VTX FORSALE Texas riders represent.
yeeehaW pArtnEr
Ive yet to hear in person someone talk the way this comment reads. Beside yosemite sam that is.
I've tried in helmet speakers and it confirmed what I already suspected. You either have to crank the volume to hear above the wind noise, or wear earplugs to shut out the wind noise, and crank the volume to hear above the earplugs. I've used the M6 Pro's and Shure SE215's, but I prefer the cheap AKG Y23 earphones. They're tiny, do not dislodge putting on a helmet as I found the others to do, and seal out the wind noise pretty well, especially if you get the matching Comply foam tips.
Need a 2019 update
Jatin Rawat 2020 update now. He’s way late.
This is probably one of the best videos you've produced. Thanks!
Sorry to be that guy:
Timbre is pronounced “tam-ber”
Love your videos!
This is true. Shameful for someone who lived in Quebec for so long to get that wrong :S ~RF9
Honest mistake. Thanks again for making such great content!
God, I hate that guy
Dman117z z me too.
Like Tam or Tom?
I bought the ME 6 PRO. Came with an optional cable with microphone. I use these on my bike and also while traveling on aircraft. Amazing sound dampening and frequency response.
3m disposable earplugs ftw
please dont litter
Best and most timely post ever....for me. My new Skullcandy Smokin Buds are not doing the trick. You da man for popping this review out right now ;)
To bad ear buds are illegal to wear while riding here. Been pulled over twice for it.
Maybe you should have worn a helmet on top, so they wouldn't notice!
Clayne151 i wear a full face. They saw the cables & pulled me over.
Blurry Face kinda hard to out run cops on a little 150 scooter. Not that I'd run any fucking ways.
Get a bluetooth adapter clip, run the wire through your sleeve and put the clip at the rim. You can now control music without taking out the phone or taking your gloves off. Stealthy.
Get a bluetooth setup like a Sena or Cardo. Or just hide the cable better.
can't speak for the MEE M6, however I can for the shure se215 you compared them too, being my daily driver headphones
with the memory foam buds they're honestly fantastic for riding, even without music. they cut wind and road noise to just the right level in my opinion, and are very comfortable even under a helmet. they also have a fantastic sound
I have an orchestra playing from my exhaust pipe
Very much need an update to this video
Timbre is pronounced like "tamber" or "tombruh"
Not like "timber" 👍
He's very obviously Canadian, leave him alone, he speaks in flannel.
You guys should do a remake on this one. Its been 3 years. Many changes since then.
"just the tip.... '"
Awesome video with quite a bit of knowledge. I recently purchased a set of the M6 Pros (2nd Gen) and let me tell you: these headphones are perfect for riding. I tested the quality with an open-face helmet + goggles and the noise isolation worked surprisingly well. I originally rode with a pair of Bose SoundSport headphones (open concept). They do let in quite a bit of sound, so the M6 Pros (2nd Gen) are quite a step up.
Well done with the product review. The M6 Pros are an excellent choice for riding. Props.
I'm sorry, but this is so obviously sponsored. How can no one see that?
Good taste man, if I ever would have used earbuds I think I already would have used those in ear monitors. One of the best deals period no matter what your using them for.
Perfectly happy with my Bose earbuds. Use them at the gym too and no issues when wearing my Arai while riding
I have the Sure SE 215 and I use them with my motorcycle. They are awesome.
Custom molded earbuds with race-quality drivers inserted. Blocks noise really well with 34dBa+ reduction and sounds okay. Don’t need to crank up the volume as all the road/wind noise is gone.
Have you heard of plugphones? probably one of my favorite ways to listen to music while riding. They are earplugs + head phones and work exactly as described.
I took your advice on the M6 and WOW, is it a game changer! Thanks for all you do!
I'm impressed you didn't mention grabbing any top tier low price low impedance computer headphones for 20$, gutting them and simply replacing anything Sena or Cardo comes with with a solder tool is just the best option you can have.
Me? I can't listen to music while I'm riding, I don't even, ever talk on my phone's Bluetooth in the CAR. I mean, I don't like talking on the phone anyway. . . at anytime. . . EVER. I guess I find the intense focusing to be the therapeutic part of riding.
On my 1st 600 mile trip on my '05 Bandit (after >10 yrs. out of the saddle) I put in my foam earplugs (favs) & entertained myself by talking to/complaining at the cagers around me. I dunno, it passed the time pretty well.
Music would be too much distraction for me. Thanks anyway, Ryan. Keep on keepin' on with the vids. 😁
been using my wireless in-ear headphones while riding for several years now - such a pleasure. Have tried fitting the speakers of my Cardo Packtalk slim in my 2 helmets (Arai and LS2) and had to take them out as just too uncomfortable with painful pressure on my ears
Another ear bud option at half the price is earfuze ear buds. The come with a two part moldable foam to create an earplug around the ear bud. This increases the Bass and vastly reduces wind noise. I run about half volume at highway speeds, and the sound is great. There are a few options from stereo headsets, microphone headsets, and Bluetooth.
If you have a communication unit that utilizes a 3.5mm headset, I recommend Earfuze.
You missed one class of earbud option: Bluetooth, for when you want to mount your phone on your steering stem where you can see it for GPS navigation and easily change your music selection, without having an annoying wire running from your bike to your jacket. And the best option I've found in the category is the Rowkin Bit Stereo. Tiny, no bulky battery pack, and no wires connecting the left and right buds. 2 hours of continuous music on a charge, and the magnetic battery case will re-charge them 4 times before needing to be recharged itself. The commonly-reported issues users have with volume drop outs is, oddly enough, completely mitigated by the shell of your helmet. These things work GREAT. Highly recommended.
I actually have sena smh10 but with a slight twist. I took senas speakers out and soldered in my old koss portapro speakers. They get so much more bass than sena and even so loud that my ears starts to hurt.
Let's update this for 2021!
Hey Ryan, would it be possible to do another video like this but for the current to next year?
I love watching your videos and while I ride a Harley your videos are just interesting as hell!!!!!
Will definitely try again xD need a remake on this guy. Half the phones out there dont even have a jack anymore!
Get the EarPods, no hustling with wires on a perfect set that delivers clean sound, superb bass and has the quality we all know. If you think they are too loose in your ear buy the silicone adapters and your all set.
I have Sena 10S that I've taken the crappy tinny speakers out and soldered a great inexpensive set off Amazon. Works incredibly well with deep bass and full sound range. The loudness is great as well and the best part is that it's wireless. My advice for DYI, is to get a Sena and DYI a good set of speakers into it.
I know it's not likely to be read but the human ear can only hear 20hz to 20khz so anything more or less is more or less pointless. As long as the frequency response graph looks good then anything beyond doesn't much matter. What does a nice FR graph look like? Depends on what YOU like
We definitely need an updated version Ryan, also, stop slacking! We’re all bored, you need to upload hourly, please. 😂
The best ear bud I have ever used are the Skull Candy Buds. Even at +100 MPH (not KPH) without a helmet I can still clearly hear my music over the wind and my chopper's loud engine. The only problem is keeping them in my ears at any speed over 80mph.
I bought some of these mee m6's...they're incredible. Thanks for the recommendation.