155: Diesel Heater Under Driver's Seat
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2021
- I’m still learning to use this new camera and super-duper lens. That lens is amazing in low light and turns night to day, but a downside is that the very large lens aperture means that there’s LOTS of background blur….. and when it focuses on my shoulder, for instance, what you want to look at is lost in the soft, creamy bokeh.
I reckon I’ll have to pick up a general purpose lens at some point.
At the time of writing the heater still isn’t connected to the fuel. To get the sender unit out, the bench seat and my leisure batteries and bulkhead have to come out. Basically, screw that. I’m putting the included fuel can behind the seat. It’s cold. I can’t wait.
The bodge job silicon draught excluder seal is not staying on. Don’t panic. I’ll get some high temperature mastic stuff.
Please learn from my fails. This is not a how-to video. I have no doubt that most of you could do a better job.
Love you lots
Mevi
Hey everyone. I realise some of you are new or missed previous videos, so here is some background…
I used to have a 5KW heater in the back of the van, under the widthways bed. When I switched the layout to a front lengthways bed, I decided to move heating, batteries and electrics to the cab. In earlier videos I discovered the 5KW won’t fit in what is probably the only area of the cab that the exhaust and intake can SAFELY drop through. You’ll also see me swapping out 5KW looms and conduit as I installed that before testing the 5KW fit.
There might be hacks to fit a 5KW in the cab of the Ducato/Relay/Boxer/Jumper/Promaster so please share them to the community here if you know how.
Note that this is a UK right hand drive van… I expect the install options will be limited compared to a left hand drive van. Note that the fuel tank is under the bench seat in the UK.
Here is a link to my shared “resources” for this van and many of the variants. It includes the instructions for the 2KW install.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aR2mvfo_5IUx0QIuMMjqpkoYhAHMmKyq
Crispy 4K 😎 Part 2 is where you find out how many diesel heater experts there are out there and they've told you all the stuff they thought you did wrong 🤣
I know. Dreading it, mate. I can almost hear the furious clattering of their keyboards now. 😬😂
Too true 👍😁
Some top notch swearology my man. Very entertaining. I'm laughing but this is exactly what I have to do at the weekend in the same van. Dreading it now.
Ha ha. Hopefully I made the mistakes so you don't have to. That's probably the sole purpose of my channel. 😁
I did replace the door seal bodge with 300°C heatproof silicone sealer. Also the fuel line is now PVC and I'm gonna plumb into the vans fuel tank soon-ish.
Horrible working in the cold and rain, so well done for sticking with it.
That new camera got some great clear 4k shots of your fleece 😁😉
I’ve figured out how to close down the aperture so that I can focus on more things. Also face recognition doesn’t recognise me with a hat, glasses and beard.
Great video mate really glad you’re back making them again! These are my favourite builds just adding and changing stuff as the need arises - much like how I’m building my van
You know, I never finished the van first time. 😆
Oh Mevi, I know I'm months behind, but I had to comment. You are awesome, you've made me laugh and cry so many times on this journey, thank you. Fyi, it was your comment about inches and bragging that finally tipped me to comment! Thank you for giving me hope through my roughest time. Much love and peace 💚
Well done Mevi 👏
Good job mevi 👍🏻👍🏻
Remember when doing DIY "Perfection is the enemy of progress".
I can only aspire to perfection. 🤭
I actually think cameras are the enemy of progress.
Bloody love this! About to install a diesel heater in a T6 and there's not a definitive vid on YT for this. Your unfiltered experiences are exactly mine in converting a van, through trial and lotsa error! Only about halfway through and I have sworn more in the last year than I have in the previous 56! I'd never do it again, mainly cos this conversion will never bloody end! Cheers!
I don't know how similar a T6 is to a T5, but we helped install one under the passenger seat and drop the fuel tank to fuel the heater via the sender unit.
To be fair, I only held the camera. 😁
ua-cam.com/video/BBhdmyrNiJc/v-deo.html
That was a bit of an emotional rollercoaster but glad you got there!
6 degrees, 🥶 Bl**dy cold mate! Fair play to ya 👏
well done fella you will get there
Felt your pain Mevi, been there many times myself. But well done mate you got there.
Brilliant video Mevi. It's great to see a 'normal' person muddle through and make it work. Videos like yours go to prove that you can do these jobs yourself without a massive budget for tools and workshops etc.
Your inspiring my friend!!!!
Yes, I'm "normal" 😄
I replaced my steering lock and ignition switch parked on a residential street; sitting in the cab, hammering at the shear bolts with a chisel.
The world is my workshop. 🤭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bet folk thought you were a completely crap van thief taking so long to get it going. Lol
@@Witteringtrucker I'd been broken down there for 2 weeks while I waited for the part to arrive from ITALY. 🙄
Nice one 👍💙❤️
Nice one MeV 👍👊😁
You’re not using a pigeon 🦅 to support you this time 🤣 well done Mevi 👍🙏😍
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I fed nuts to a little bird that came to watch.
@@Mevi that’s what she said 😍
😁
It looks good to me 😊💜
Good to see you got it in! You can buy tape measures without inches, I have one it's great measure on both sides!
Love it Bud.. at least you are doing it yourself.. You will have to keep rubbing your self to keep warm until its finished..? Merry Christmas M8
Sadly, I am having to do the rubbing myself as well. 🎅🏼
good vid on your channel thanks lee
I missed this when it came out, thanks for filming it Mevi, I'm sure it was a pain in the butt filming and installing, there was some useful stuff in there though. If it helps, I didn't want to mastic down the adapter plate so I used a silicone baking sheet to make a gasket by cutting it to size and cutting out holes for the inlet, outlet, fuel and screw holes. It seems to do the job.
That might just do the job, thanks for the tip. The seal I made seems good for now and no leaks into the cab. When the weather warms up, I’ll get back under the van. Thanks again
Excellent.... you have enthusiastic support all over the country.... Next time ask for an extra pair of hands.
Nothing worse crawling around under a van when a mate can pass you tools etc.. 100% admire your approach...
I’m usually the one at van meets still tinkering while the rest of them eat BBQ around the fire. ☺️
enjoying your content so much mevi, you show the reality of doing jobs in real life and not the instagram version ?, PS I think i used all the same words as you when i was fitting my diesel heater in my transit but will be moving it from under the van to inside in the near future.
You can count on me for that gritty realism. 🤣
Im not a betting man, but i put a tenner on with William Hill 1000 to 1 on keyboard negative comments , nice to see you in fine form. 👍👍👍👍
yey. i have now watched all videos (except the cycling one since i wanted to do it in one long stint, but i may have to do it in bits i think) hope you're well.
Also there is the “unlisted” playlist. The ones that were exclusive the website, but that was a failed experiment. 😄
ua-cam.com/play/PLfbOgUjlP54ahKEizr99iSDGDlblX2yUR.html
@@Mevi cool i'll have a look.
Well done that man ... remember your the one doing it yourself not the keyboard experts who undoubtedly will say this that and next thing is wrong and you should of this ,who cares what they think ,just laugh it off 👍👍👍
So far, they’ve been kind… 😜
Hi, for the vehicle fuel tank pick up, have you seen the method of using a thin pick up pipe tapped and screwed into the breather pipe (bend with flexi pipe attached) ? The breather pipe comes off the sender when you remove its bolts, you can drill it without removing the whole sender unit. You would need to trim the pick up pipe to length and seal the pick up into the breather with araldite, or a dab of epoxy putty. Best of luck.
In with the 2KW heater parts is a metal pipe that is probably for tapping into fuel tanks. It has a u-bend to prevent running the tank empty too. I reckon that might be useful for that method. Thanks!
Hi Mevi, thanks for tha advice about the clipboard. Now I've got a brocken catch that holds the cover down on the battery, do u have any experience of this problem, I believe its quite common.do u know what they are called and if I can get new ones? Thank-you.
Is it the one with a thumb turn type thing (and not the ones that need a 2p coin to turn)? Yeah, mine is broken too. 😆
I can't post a link, but search your favourite online auction site for "71749551 ducato". Less than a tenner.
A used replacement cover costs maybe £35, but won't include the thumb turn.
Nice Mevi. Is it quieter? I’ve put on a 50Cc 2stroke silencer on the exhaust
I’ve yet to run it. Tomorrow should be the first run. I’ll see if it’s acceptable with the 2 lengths of exhaust and 2 regular silencers I already have.
Does yours have the “whoooooooo” sound? Is your pump noisy where it is?
Don't you just love fucking around under a van in this weather? 🤣 Great job Mevi think I'll also fit my 2kw diesel heater under the drivers seat
drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aR2mvfo_5IUx0QIuMMjqpkoYhAHMmKyq
Here's a link to my "resources". If you have a Ducato or similar, there's a few useful things for you. The instructions I followed are here. 😎
@@Mevi Thanks for sharing this , I`m hoping to get a Boxer next year for conversion, your video and this link has helped with the planning I never thought of putting the diesel heater under the drivers seat.
It saves losing space in the living area. Also I'm hoping the airflow through the cab will keep the windows clear. I've just had a DM from a friend who says there is an official kit to draw the fuel from the sender unit. I probably won't attempt that now, as I can't take too many risks with my DIY.
@@Mevi that will be very useful thank you Mevi, I have a SWB Citroen Relay so saving space in the back is certainly a must. I was thinking about tapping into the fuel tank as it's just under the passenger seat, that kit would be very useful also.
The kit is for going into the sender unit which is under a hatch between the seats, so you won't need to mess with the tank itself. I've "helped" do the same on a VW T5 and they had to drop the fuel tank to the ground.
Hello Mevi hope your doing well. Just a suggestion. if you have a small piece of 6mm plywood or similar you could make a wooden ring (like a washer ) to go around the 2k heater vent then it will cover the old 5k heater hole better. Just an idea
Yeah, I just need to pack it out with something. I probably have something like that among the offcuts in the storage unit I share.
@@Mevi good stuff your van will be like a oven in no time.. I'm off to skye tomorrow morning 70mph winds forcast for Monday should be fun!
Wrap up warm. Fingers crossed for northern lights!
I have got to install my 2kw heater under the drivers seat next week. Iv bought a turret mount so I can cut one large hole. Then seal up the gap with Heatmate sealer that's rated to 300 degrees. I didn't realise that was such a large gap between the floor and the heat shield. Bet I do more swearing than you, when I fit my heater. LOL
There’s a good 10cm or more. The metal of the floor isn’t very thick at all. You might want to avoid that seam that runs behind the seat. Hopefully your turret won’t go near it. 😎
My last heater was mounted on metal legs with the exposed pipe work exiting through a DIY heat shielded hole. Out of necessity because I couldn’t mount directly on the thick celotex insulated floor.
Hi Mevi! D'you recon it'd be legal to remove the passenger seat and put a recliner LazyBoy in its stead? (assuming of course that the seatbelt and all the airbag wiring will be re-integrated with the said seat).
Thinking of putting a recliner seat on 1 meter T-rails - comfy passenger seat by day, lazyBoy cinema experience by night.
You'd instantly fail the MOT. You could instead put a motorhome seat there with a swivel base. They are often big and soft with armrests, buy don't lift your legs. They are usually expensive, even if they came from a scrapyard. Even a driver's seat from a LHD van is expensive because of conversions swapping the bench for a single.
Hi mevi
I have been putting off my disel heater fix.
Got my camper in October with a installed heater not working.
But hopefully only need to change the unit and leaving everything else in place and hoping it will work.
Watching you has given me a kick to do mine.
Did you have a 5kw and downgraded to a 2kw?.
Lot of people are doing that now due to less noise and not too hot.
Is that your reason.
Good luck Bill
Size was the reason for me. The 5KW won’t fit there. It WAS noisy and too hot as well.
@@Mevi thanks Bill
3rd time lucky haha
Shhhh, don’t jinx it. It’s still not finished yet! 🤫
I'v just been thinking, you might need to swap over the diesel pump because they might be different size/capacity pumps. The size is laser etched on the side of the pumps.
Yes, good point. I hadn’t considered that. I assumed the dosage each Hz would be the same between sizes.
@@Mevi The 2kw heaters circuit board will have its own Hz set up to match that heater.
I'm 80-90% sure the 5kw heaters have a larger capacity pump. That doesn't mean you couldn't use it but the 2kw heaters controller would have to set up differently.
Please don't take my word for it. Ask on the UK FB group to double check.
I plan to fit my heater facing front to back. Pushing air under the raised floor section, through the 60mm duct. All the way to the back, under the raised bed. Because I'm having a double seat behind the driver's seat.
I’ve seen that done in pro van conversions. Makes good use of that raised floor.
The 2 kW has a 16 ml pump, the 5 kW has a 22 ml pump, the hz will be the same (both pump sizes are measured per 1000 impulses)
Also if you can't find your receipt for the drill and you paid for it with your card just show them your bank statement/ or phone banking app proving purchase. I know tesco accept that if no receipt 👍
The receipt is probably somewhere “safe”. If not, B&Q are usually cool with returns.
Thats interesting, I swapped a 5 kW for a 2 kW and the plugs/sockets were the same...
I've even seen a 3rd socket style in the wild. Mostly that triangle shape though.
No negative comments so far. So you must be doing something right. Either that, or they are still rolling around on the floor laughing. Whatever, it's in. Like the idea of using the D channel to raise the body. That could be why you didn't have the same heat outlet problem as me. The Baked Bean Tin. Nice one, well done. I know it's been a nightmare for you. Trotter
I don't think my heater is significantly higher than yours. Millimeters at best. I wonder if the "220mm from edge" is affected by where the factory decided to put that edge on the day my van was built.
I swear they were eyeballing it when this fucker was assembled. 😂
Yes spend a little more on power tools. Those B and D are pants
My Bosch drill got left out in the rain! I do so little DIY now that the van is mostly done that I opted for a cheaper drill.. I used to have a nice Makita, but someone robbed it out of my works van. I don’t have a lot of luck with power tools. Even my old jigsaw went up in smoke. 🤭
Excellent vlog Mevi a lot of groaning and moaning going on ha ha. Hope its working for you. Take care xx
Until I started videoing myself, I never realised how much noise I make!
@@Mevi ha ha ha ha xx
Hello from the high desert of New Mexico USA 🇺🇸. I just found your channel and I liked and subscribed. Please replace that soft green PVC tubing that is not fuel rated with the proper hard white nylon fuel line, it's cheap and it's made for it. You can use regular black rubber fuel line from the tank to the filter and then to the pump but you need to use the hard white nylon fuel line from the pump to the heater. Please don't believe me and watch JohnMck47 on UA-cam. Keep up the good work and stay safe and God bless you and your family
Hey thanks James. Welcome to the channel 😎
I agree. A few videos back I bought a kit with the hard fuel line, but the seller sent the wrong *heater*. In order to the get the size I wanted - this 2KW fits under the seat - I ended up with this kit and the flexible hose.
I'll upgrade that hose once the first tank of diesel is used up (and replace the fragile filter that broke in my hand).
I'm using the included fuel tank for speed. I just needed the heat ASAP!