I have known Carl for about 20 years now. I first met him at a protest site in Derbyshire called the 9 Ladies. We bonded over a mutual love of spaghetti westerns, video nasties, steampunk sci fi and Judeo-Christian mysticism and occultism. I still have the 'Satan is love' T shirt with a 'Sad Sam' style puppy dog on it Carl gave me when we first became pals. Many years later, I met him at some rock festival they were playing at, and I brought along my copy of 'Sumerland' 12' version for them to sign. Carl was DISAPPOINTED that I asked him for his autograph! He told me he didn't want to be my idol as he was happy being my friend instead, as this was greater. What a gent! Cheerz Mr McCoy. I am sure I will see you around again soon. ;-)
@Dawn Razor Yeah. just because you have an interest in something doesn't mean you believe it. Carl is one of the few people I can discuss this stuff in detail with, along with my friends the late Gen and Paula from Psychic TV
It's so funny to hear him talk and sound like a british geezer. Fields of the Nephilim are a pretty dark band. So it's funny to see them just having a chat. Also McCoy being into Magazine is cool. That band was also pretty goth. Permafrost is a downright uncomfortable song by Magazine. I recommend it.
Did their booking agent have any idea who FotN were!? This is like the 3rd early era Carl McCoy appearance on one of these garbage pop shows. I can't imagine anyone tuning in to a show like this liking FotN and I can't imagine any FotN fan tuning in to a show like this.
In the mid to late 80s the lines were often blurred between Pop Music and Goth music. Of course you had The Cure, The Cult, Depeche Mode etc all riding high in the charts. On top of that heavy metal bands like Iron Maiden & Judas Priest also riding high.
mick brown was a dj on capital radio. so was not very expreniced at tv. his songs with pat sharp were bad enough. he could try to ask better questions?
In hindsight a BIG mistake by Carl McCoy trying to emulate Eldtritch and trying to grab a contract with a major US record company and having total control over their music. The Fields of the Nephilim had a harsh, unfriendly and anti-pop music sound. Their first two albums were great but too gruff for a US audience. Timing is everything and the Fields of the Nephilim missed out. Paradoxically, the US noise masters Ministry took everyone by surprise when Psalm 69, just as brutal as any Nephilim album topped the world wide Indie charts and entered the Top 40 mainstream charts also. Al Jourgensen claims that Ministry sold 14 million albums between 1989 - 96. Being No. 1 on the English Independent ( Indie Charts) as The Cult's Ian Astbury in 1989 said, " means absolutely nothing when you get here ( USA). THE Cult lucked out as did Eldtritch. The Nephilim slightly sizzled & then quickly petered out. Both NME & the Melody Maker had dropped them by mid-1992. Elizium was a great album and in my opinion, their live album Earth Inferno an absolute live masterpiece. Earth Inferno - I remember reading a 2010 review was deemed criminality underrated. Unfortunately, the Nephilim never gained a strong foothold in the US or Canada and yes, like the one man project, The Sisters of Mercy were ALL collectively wiped out by the Seattle grunge movement.
Even Oasis were 'wiped out' when it came to the US market, Carl McCoy is..... 'whatever' but he's not an Eldritch clone and Ministry for all there fineness are not FOTN or Killing Joke or Front 242, right time right place and mediocre is what sells.
@@johnharmer4606 Their sounds are completely different, so is the inspiration. Can't listen to Sisters, it's just hot garbage especially with the fake drums. Fields are real musicians.
Obviously The Sisters were a huge influence on The Neph. But The Neph were an improvement on The Sisters’ formula. Take First and Last and Always -there are only two songs on that I love. Every song on The Neph’s second album was a monster.
May my man forgive me but Carl McCoy is beautiful
Swoon! Agreed.
Another reason why women don't do music. Perform, Create or Compose.
Agree 😅
I'm a straight bloke but he's gorgeous! Until he talks...
@@junior4654juniorI'm so confused what are you talking about
I have known Carl for about 20 years now. I first met him at a protest site in Derbyshire called the 9 Ladies. We bonded over a mutual love of spaghetti westerns, video nasties, steampunk sci fi and Judeo-Christian mysticism and occultism. I still have the 'Satan is love' T shirt with a 'Sad Sam' style puppy dog on it Carl gave me when we first became pals. Many years later, I met him at some rock festival they were playing at, and I brought along my copy of 'Sumerland' 12' version for them to sign.
Carl was DISAPPOINTED that I asked him for his autograph! He told me he didn't want to be my idol as he was happy being my friend instead, as this was greater.
What a gent! Cheerz Mr McCoy. I am sure I will see you around again soon. ;-)
@Dawn Razor Yeah. just because you have an interest in something doesn't mean you believe it. Carl is one of the few people I can discuss this stuff in detail with, along with my friends the late Gen and Paula from Psychic TV
@Dawn Razor basically, any Abrahamic religion. It is the 'patriarchy' in Aleister Crowley's system of magick.
Funny...Growing up with Spaghetti Westerns is what got me into the Nephs
@@stevendunkley8284 Oh you....what is free masonry?
@@joesmith9216 A system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols.
Carl McCoy is sooooo beautiful. I can not keep my eyes off him ❤️❤️❤️
They don't get to say very much, do they.
The hatless head is so unpolite.
No
@@inlakesh555 He has to be or somewhat, he's on the clock and the studio is pushed for ratings.
@@wakinguponjupiter7505 agree
Oh..so that's why Carl wont appear in public anymore.
It's so funny to hear him talk and sound like a british geezer. Fields of the Nephilim are a pretty dark band. So it's funny to see them just having a chat.
Also McCoy being into Magazine is cool. That band was also pretty goth. Permafrost is a downright uncomfortable song by Magazine. I recommend it.
Oh god... McCoy is very very pretty 🤤♥️
Did their booking agent have any idea who FotN were!? This is like the 3rd early era Carl McCoy appearance on one of these garbage pop shows. I can't imagine anyone tuning in to a show like this liking FotN and I can't imagine any FotN fan tuning in to a show like this.
In the mid to late 80s the lines were often blurred between Pop Music and Goth music. Of course you had The Cure, The Cult, Depeche Mode etc all riding high in the charts. On top of that heavy metal bands like Iron Maiden & Judas Priest also riding high.
There was a moment in history when they were teetering on pop stardom 🤷🏻♂️
Carl and Tony look like two naughty boys in this interview, especially Tony🤭
Searching 4 Nefilims everywhere
Presenter is woeful, he even looks bored of himself!
That was the point. Are you Polish?
Jeeeezus... the Steve Harris school of interview charisma....
Lovely to hear that Stevenage accent on National Tv again.
Tony is a cutie pie
mick brown was a dj on capital radio. so was not very expreniced at tv. his songs with pat sharp were bad enough. he could try to ask better questions?
Que chiste no les dejaban hablar tres palabras a los locos y le mandaban comercial jajajajajajajaja
Ni los dejaron hablar! 😢
Legends
I was eagerly waiting for them to come to the US. But...
This show is awesome!
Mis faboritosss y unico car m coil
Carl maccoil
Carl and his friends Tony and... Tony?
👍 Bien carl mccoy 🎤
Hit record LMAO
Hmmm... those hats.... Like Freddy Mercury and mustached men......
In hindsight a BIG mistake by Carl McCoy trying to emulate Eldtritch and trying to grab a contract with a major US record company and having total control over their music.
The Fields of the Nephilim had a harsh, unfriendly and anti-pop music sound. Their first two albums were great but too gruff for a US audience.
Timing is everything and the Fields of the Nephilim missed out.
Paradoxically, the US noise masters Ministry took everyone by surprise when Psalm 69, just as brutal as any Nephilim album topped the world wide Indie charts and entered the Top 40 mainstream charts also. Al Jourgensen claims that Ministry sold 14 million albums between 1989 - 96.
Being No. 1 on the English Independent ( Indie Charts) as The Cult's Ian Astbury in 1989 said, " means absolutely nothing when you get here ( USA).
THE Cult lucked out as did Eldtritch. The Nephilim slightly sizzled & then quickly petered out. Both NME & the Melody Maker had dropped them by mid-1992.
Elizium was a great album and in my opinion, their live album Earth Inferno an absolute live masterpiece.
Earth Inferno - I remember reading a 2010 review was deemed criminality underrated. Unfortunately, the Nephilim never gained a strong foothold in the US or Canada and yes, like the one man project, The Sisters of Mercy were ALL collectively wiped out by the Seattle grunge movement.
Elizium may be the final and crowning album of classic Gothic Rock. Sound and artwork, it is just perfect.
Even Oasis were 'wiped out' when it came to the US market, Carl McCoy is..... 'whatever' but he's not an Eldritch clone and Ministry for all there fineness are not FOTN or Killing Joke or Front 242, right time right place and mediocre is what sells.
They should have held out for another 2 years so they could attend the first lollapalooza
@@TheHouseAlwaysWins20they had Jane's supporting them in UK at one point 🤯
The best Sisters of Mercy tribute act ever😂
The sisters couldn't put flour on McCoys shoulders
Except they're nothing alike whatsoever. Singing with deep voices, that's it, innit?
@@ShiroiTengu errr...pretty much 83-85 the whole thing. No Sisters of Mercy no Fields i'm guessing.
@@johnharmer4606 Their sounds are completely different, so is the inspiration. Can't listen to Sisters, it's just hot garbage especially with the fake drums. Fields are real musicians.
Obviously The Sisters were a huge influence on The Neph. But The Neph were an improvement on The Sisters’ formula. Take First and Last and Always -there are only two songs on that I love. Every song on The Neph’s second album was a monster.