So refreshing to see a classic old school build and not an over the top turbo build with a blueprinted aluminum block with all kinds of high dollar fancy stuff. This is a lost art. Great work tony, can't wait to see this thing hit the track!
This is the definition of "real" Hot-Rodding! Throwing your mind at it, instead of money. I love it! Doesn't hurt that I am a hard-core Mopar guy who loves the slant. But, the fact remains. THIS, is Hot-Rodding!
Listening to a guy talk about a 60 year old engine design while taking a dump = awesome, realizing you were reading this guys articles 30 years ago while taking a dump = priceless. God bless you uncle tony this is what the internet was made for
Uncle Tony when I saw you rev that engine up and saw how snappy it was it was very apparent all the years of experience you have and it really shines through ...
Cam specs are pretty close to the R/T E49 Valiant Charger. It's funny how that Slant sounds super grunty yet my 265 Hemi sixpack has a cam about that size and it idles like it's on EFI. DCOE Webers really tame big cams surprisingly well
You’re the master of doing more with less. I’ve never seen anyone do such cool engine tuning and building with basically stock parts and have it perform like your engines do. I started following you right before you got bottle rocket and was amazed at your knowledge of making what you have work at it’s optimum and this build has me pretty stoked to see it make some numbers. Keep up the cool stuff that you do on your channel
That belt tension water pump/fan get around has me smiling while I listened to it... Then I look over at the screen & you're smiling too... It's great...
Tony, you are a real hot rodder! Taking a slant six and using your genius making a cool package keeps me enthusiastic. Thanks looking forward to future videos.
Thanks Uncle T! A great way to start my day. Have my coffee all brewed and at my side, breakfast about ready, and I can sit and watch my favorite down-to-earth channel about no-nonsense cars from the good ole' days!
Tony, you’re a mopar mad scientist! I love your approach to situations like the fan, and your appreciation of under appreciated motors. Can’t wait to see how plan z runs!
I’d probably wager a solid 250-300 crank horsepower with that thing. No matter what power it makes, tony did the pretty crazy thing of COMPLETELY changing the characteristics of the engine from a smooth, slow revving, moderately torquey economical daily motor to a cackling, shrieking 6500-7k rpm free revving monster - and with 95% stock internal parts!!! I don’t know what kind of magic he did to make an engine do those things and sound the way it does and I’ve followed every part of the series on this build. Especially with so many other slant builds just sounding lazy and lame comparatively to this one, he really made it breathe fire. Took all his knowledge and know how and turned the thing into an anomaly. I’ve never heard an American six sound like that besides 10 thousand dollar billet internal prestige drag motors. Impressive to say the least. Note: measuring at the crank for hp
300 plus hp is a bit optimistic for a normally aspirated /6, even one with all these mods. If it meets or somewhat exceeds 1hp per c.i. that's a lot. If it puts @200 hp to the rear wheels it will fly because it doesn't weigh much.
@@needmetal3221 I wouldnt say anything that low. 200 at least. The car is full of lightweight gear for low parasitic losses besides the automatic trans which has also been modified. Anyways I was talking about crank horsepower. And I don’t imagine the drivetrain taking as much to turn as what anyone would normally would grade it on.
I find those numbers believable. Datsun Z cars from the 70's had straight 6 engines with even less displacement, 2 valves/cylinder and non-crossflow head regularly making well over 200 whp, sometimes 300 whp in race trim. The slant with more displacement and a solid build should be able to do it too
@@danebeck7900 the valves are side-by-side. Much harder to get good flame travel like a Datsun. I am still thinking 200-210hp. The torque #s? I have no idea.
A lot of circle track guys run their fans that way, simply because the rules say they can't run electric fans or pumps. It works great, just like Tony said, when idling around the pits they move plenty of air and water, then when you smash it and haul ass around the track they slip like they aren't even there. I've seen them do it with power steering as well.
@@livewire2759 you'd think that loose belt on a circle track car wouldn't be favorable, maybe in a heat race it'd be ok but wouldn't it get to hot in the feature if the water pump isn't running
@@kenleppek As long as they're up to speed they get enough air flow through the radiator that it cools and actually helps drive the fan which drives the pump, but yeah, sometimes they do overheat... risk vs reward!
@@livewire2759 I never thought about the airflow driving the water pump via the fan....damn I'm no slouch when it comes to mechanical workings, but I would have never thought of that!
Excellent post start briefing. Always impressed with how much information is actually in RAM within Uncle Tony’s brain. He truly impresses me with his memory of all he does on these project cars. Thanks again Uncle Tony 👍
Hey Tony, digging the project. I built a very exotic 4.0 inline that lives in the ultimate sleeper, a 93 grand Cherokee. It has embarrassed a lot of pony cars stop light to stop light. Btw, it has 2.05/1.6 valves and it still snaps the head back from a standing start, with an automatic.
Wicked that you are drinking a Canada Dry! Wicked good drink!! This is hot rodding! You don’t need 100k to have fun! This is my favourite so far Tony! Cheers
This thing could definitely get into the 11s with the right gearing, not going overkill on the tire, and keeping the race weight as austere as possible. It will be a sight to see
I did the usual Edelbrock intake,holley four barrel,cam and longtube headers on my '72 318 dodge charger and it ran great! Made great power! Not big block power but good drivable power.I was 21 yrs.old when I had that car and I absolutely loved it..to top it all off I paid $375 for it..a guy bought it,drove it for a year,went off to Vietnam and never came home..it sat next to a tree on cape cod where I was raised and it sat there from '73-'74 til I bought it in 1986.I actually thought it was orange but when I cut and buffed it in my garage it came back bright red!! Only rust on the whole car was the floorpan right behind the drivers seat!! Bench seat,column shift black interior.nothing special no option car.
You have a gift for making videos. Glad you are able to enjoy it and make some cash. Your knowledge is very good as well. Keep up the good work! It is very cool and rare to be entertained and learn a lot of stuff all at the same time
I told him that while we were setting up for the 904 recap video. He is very good at articulating his thoughts in an orderly fashion in one take. Seems easy on the face of it, but not many people can do that, even those who make UA-cam videos regularly.
@@michaelanderson5456 But what about the cue cards and the desk notes and the director (Kathy) feeding him lines off-camera? All kidding aside, you guys are absolutely right. Very talented guy.
What a fun build this is. Good job! Looking forward to seeing vid of her putting power to the pavement. Also can’t wait to see her fully dialed in and on the clock. Dyno figures will be very interesting too! I knew a guy when I was a kid who had a 63 fairlane with the six banger. Mine had the small block v8. He worked his old school style and it was stoutly little monster. My stock small block v-8 couldn’t stay with it. Then a new guy showed up in the area with a hot little 225 that had been gone over well (probably similar to whats in this vid). That little leaning tower of power was really something to behold.
Not too long ago, Slant6 parts were used "only" now even my work sells replacement intake manifolds,, Exhaust maybe,, for stock I mean, they do tend to crack.. Headers I've seen the short dual headers, not sure who make them, peace Brother..
@@AtZero138 I was toying with the idea of taking a factory 2 barrel intake for a slant 6 and reconfiguring it to run 2 1 barrel carbs one right behind the other to give it that vintage hot rod / rat rod look to the engine . the 1 barrel carbs would be a carter jut like the one on my slant 6 now
UT, I've said it before but I have to say it again. YOU ARE A MASTER!!! There are very few men that have the knowledge and expertise that you do, and particularly with Chrysler products. Just the fan belt set-up described is incredible. Nobody else thinks of that. And I've especially enjoyed all the videos on slant sixes. Regarding your minimal dissatisfaction with the high oil pressure. I offer the following to lower the oil pressure and reduce oil drag at the crank etc. After the break-in, consider changing the oil to AMSOIL in one of their light weight versions, like 0-w-20, and add a zinc supplement. From my twenty-four years of experience being an AMSOIL customer (and enthusiast) I trust their formulas to provide complete protection. As well, from my experience I know that their 0-w-__ formulas are so thin that upon cold engine start-up you can hear the lifters and rocker arms clacking, yet they have full protection and are in no danger due to their formulas. The AMSOIL web site is excellent and of particular interest for you there are extensive research papers at the site. I do not work for or have any investment in AMSOIL. www.amsoil.com/
Had one of these in an 1985 dodge d100 w/4 od and posi. Had big 4 barrel and ran mud tires. Thats thing got crap for for mileage but would burn out on any surface. Ran like a tank, it speaks to the straight six motors gotta lovem.
45 years ago, I had a 64 barracuda with a 225 and a Holley 390, Clifford headers and the marine cam with 318 valve springs. An old guy friend of mine had a Duster 225 with a Turbo running 12lbs boost into a 4 speed, that thing went like it had a good 340 in it.
What are you two talking about I specifically hear 40 pounds in the last vid about 11:06. There’s no conspiracy theory here blame the microphone that picked it up or your ears. He said 40 pounds of pressure.
Great follow up video for those who have not been following the build. I can wait to see what she'll do, hole shot, 60 foot or down the track. Keep on wrenchin' Uncle Tony!👍👍🔧🍪🍪🍦😊 BTW: It sounds like you said 20lbs at the 11:05 but when I watch it several times it looks like you're saying 40.
Windage? From what I remember about these engines, you could run them without oil for quite a long time and coolant was largely optional. See: Dennis Weaver in the movie Duel, final hill climb.
The last vid at 11:06 if you hear “it’s holding 20 lbs of oil pressure” you need to get your ears checked because you’ve gone full Beethoven minus the music part lol
Oil pressure is being used to judge oil flow through the bearings. If the oil pressure is too high when the engine is warmed up it indicates there isn't enough clearance in the plain bearings and the oil isn't flowing fast enough to keep the bearings cooled. Besides lubricating the bearings the oil carries away the heat generated by the shearing of the oil film in the bearing. Remember that the actual oil pressure in a plain bearing is generated by the relative motion of the bearing surfaces and can be from 800psi to over 4500psi. 20-30 psi oil pressure is ok for this engine warmed up. On a old Chevy 283 the oil pressure sensor didn't trip until the pressure was down to 10 psi. Note that on a engine like most current motorcycles have now with roller rods and main bearings you only get 5-10 psi.
@@WhiteTrashMotorsports Granted, he very well may have, but not everyone watches livestreams nor is able to watch 'em when they are on...& he didn't leave that particular one up for some unbeknownst reason...so people can't watch it in order to hear what he said in it. The only video that can be referenced is the last one where he fired it up & ran it.
That fan belt trick works for sure I used to do that with my power steering pump on my turbo civic when I’d race it I’d pick up over a 10th of the belt was loose over having it tight
Lighter reciprocating mass indeed , Revvvs! Smart build.w/ relatively stock parts. & all the little details. Parasitic drag won't matter when all they see is your taillights. 💨💨💨
How about an electric water pump drive ? We used to use the loose belt trick in our NHRA stocker until NHRA changed the rules and allowed electric water pumps . Works nice cooling the engine down in the pits too .
He may not have explained it here, but in a previous video he mentioned that an electric pump/fan setup was significantly heavier than the mechanical pump/fan setup he's got, and this project was 100% about weight reduction. An electric setup adds the weight of two electric motors and wiring, switches, relays, etc... it all adds up.
@@livewire2759 good to lose weight , but if the engine doesn't have to waste power spinning the water pump , you probably will et quicker than the 2 lbs you might lose in weight . Morose and Mr Gasket sell water pump drives that let you keep your lightweight plastic fan ,
@@russabrams3982 Possibly... but the whole point of this build is light weight and tight budget, not just super low ETs. Like he says, it's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast.
That is a sweet sounding slant 6!!! Less reciprocating mass does indeed make for quicker/higher revs.........which was Smokey Yunick's philosophy, back when he de-stroked his Chevy rat motors down to 416 cu in. Actually, the de-stroked rat motor he used in the 1967 Daytona 500 was only 403 cu in. It was intended only to shake down the car during practice BEFORE qualifying. He had originally planned on swapping up to the 416 for qualifying & the race. It was the only Chevy in the entire field because GM had dropped all factory backing, so everyone else was running 426 Hemi's & 427 Fords, making Smokey & his team the true underdogs. ( I AM NO BRAND LOYAL SNOB, I LOVE THEM ALL. But this is a true story. ) The little 403 was so much faster than everyone else during practice, that Smokey decided to gamble & use the motor for qualifying and the race itself. "The little Chevelle" won the pole position, beating all those formidable factory backed cars/teams. But he worried about the engine's durability at those higher rpm's, and strongly urged his driver: Curtis Turner, to "take it easy & stroke most of the race, then use those higher rpm's near the end, to pass the leaders & win, otherwise risk blowing the motor". They gave Turner a horribly slow pit stop, causing him to lose valuable track position. Turner became angry & frustrated, so he floored the damned thing. They say within 2 laps, he was catching the leader ( and race winner) Mario Andretti driving a Ford........and sure enough, he blew the motor. They used one of his de-stroked rat motors ( 416 cu in ) in the very next race at Atlanta, where it was also fastest in practice.........until Turner crashed & totaled the car.
Dang, sounds like the way my dear old Pap would talk and walk us through his Chevy inline 6 hot set up builds. Knowledge of what the factory offered spanning years, and use those parts mix/match to build little and light go machines. (I still have the last one that he built 30 years ago, @ 300hp) Thank you.
Just an idea, I took on my 440 Point Eliminator pantronix ,man I tell you what night and day I would not go back to point no way, you hit the gas the response is unbelievable ,start without even Touching the gas. something to think about...
The elimination of points themselves isn't the reason. The condition, dwell, timing, and voltage to the points are why. Electronic usually fixes a lot of things, but they could have also been fixed with the points...people just usually don't anymore.
Tony has done points vs electronic comparison in the past . As long as the point system is in top condition , the electronic offered no benefit up through 6000 rpm.
Well in top shape ,agree with you with points but make 20 passes with a 45,000 volt coil ..and never touch the points.. dont know you, but I was there when the only thing was point ....then tell me electronic not better.. sorry disagree....
Had a bunch of slant sixes when I was a teenager. Never built one, didn't have the money, but would have loved to! I look forward to seeing what this baby will do!
Wow..Uncle Tony!! Gotta say that I am WAY impressed with the throttle response on that slant..thats fn crazy!! Man she sounds really good..it's a shame cuz so many NICE mopars met their demise at the crusher cuz back in the day people were like Nah!! If they lifted the hood and saw the slant or a 318..funny thing is even with that teeny tiny two barrel on the 318 it laid down more hp and more torque than the 5.0 mustangs of the 80's and early 90's I used to absolutely melt the tires off my 318 '72 charger,and even tho I am a dyed in the wool mustang guy if I could have any of my old cars back it would be my '72 dodge charger!!
Yeah until the 85 model year those 5.Slows were a joke at 135 hp 243 tq, that bump in 85 to fuel injection bumped them to 185/270 which only then surpassed you 72 charger 318 at 150/260 For an interesting comparison though the emissions 2bbl 360 FE that everyone hated and called a dog still made 196/327 The 2bbl pickup 350 chevy made 145/250 The 2bbl 351m Ford made 156/262 That shows just how well that 318 stacks up and punches above its weight during the emission years
First off, Thanks for sharing so much great info and wrench tips! Second, got a silly question: Have you considered building up a 218 or 230 flatty? I was talking with machinist about those engines. He was telling me that with the gap between hp vs torque curve on those engines - a guy could build one to act much larger and more powerful than it actually is.
Thanks. I tried to keep up, but I couldn’t as I had back surgery. I’m thinking about doing a similar build in a Gremlin. Very similar build to this one, but there are new performance parts available for it, so down the road I can make improvements a little at a time.
Love the slant six's, quality materials and reliable. The distributor used a nylon gear and was the " bugger " that would spoil the fun. Bronze replacement fixed the little issue. Check all slant sixes as that may be the only reason the car was parked. I personally have seen this 4 or 5 times back in the day. Happy hunting.
I used to work on an Aussie Charger drag car with a 265 and we ran a davies craig nylon water pump, no fan or thermostat in the motor just a thermo switch for the pump...that type of set up does away with the fan mount both pulleys belt and water pump housing completely (plated over) and saves a lot of weight..Our motor had no pulleys just romac balancer.
This is such a fun series, cannot wait to this car race down the 1/4. You have covered your extensive pursuit of lightness what about aerodynamics? All of those holes in the radiator support and front edge of the fenders might be a disaster aerodynamically?
30 plus years ago, we used to drain the oil and coolant out of the engines of vehicles that failed safety inspections and were going to the scrapyard. We would run the engines just to see them grenade and blow up. The Chryco slant six and Ford 300 lasted the longest! Oh, the good old days! Haha... :-)
Eveytime he talks about windage, I have to chuckle and wonder where the guy is claiming he could build a dry sump oil system for one of these that would be cheap enough for a lemons car motor...
Got one in my 83 D150, has a factory 2 barrel on it with the A833 OD trans and 3.21 rear end. I'm currently looking for a second slant to build for it.
I do understand that you had shown some of what you had done when grinding metal off the Block in a previous video. I am wondering if you could show something like that again, but a little more in depth please Uncle Tony? Cheers for the video :-)
Old time racers used that trick when I was coming up. Once the track went NHRA they stopped allowing the loose v-belt as sometimes that would turn into a whip and take out radiators drenching the track. You can do even better putting a electric motor off to the side of the water pump and drive the pump and fan blade with the electric motor at will.. Do you know how much weight you took out of the body with the cheese grader???
I'm happy to hear my '82 W150/225 engine is so light because even though it's 4wd, I won't have to use the 4wd so often if it has good traction without it, unlike my friends horrible '93 D250/Cummins traction nightmare. Now if I can only figure out how to bold a 2.2 into a B200. with rain tires for safety, you should dragrace plan Z Oscar and Bottle Rocket in the rain. I bet Oscar would win due to traction. I was impressed when your passenger got out of that beater and it was no faster without her than with her due to reduced traction; and that was on dry pavement with her in the front seat! Traction RULES!!!!!! Remember, both rain and mud are common in Tennessee, and 4wd is complex and burns more gas, so I wish they would bring back the Corvair wagon. Was it's engine cast iron? How does the Smart Car do in the mud? with a big tool kit behind the seat?
i wonder what making a tube intake with all equal length runners would do to a slant 6. i know thats not a budget build thing but i would be curious to see the results. I built (machining and all) a slant 6 in automotive school back in about 2002 or so for a friends 65 cornet 4 door. we were younger then and used every aftermarket part we could find, new or used, it turned out to be a great motor.
Love the content, my first ride was a 63 Dodge Van (Fargo) with a Tilton Hilton room 225 with a 3 on the tree. Gutless as hell but ran great. Then the block cracked
Lol wasn't sure, 63, 64, we were told it was a 66, maybe it had a different engine in it. All I know was early 60s . I tried putting a 904 in it and it didn't fit because the snout on the TC was bigger than the hole in the crank. So probably a 66 or newer 904 and a 64 225 . As I understand the snout was bigger after 65. Doesn't matter, ain't got it anymore
So refreshing to see a classic old school build and not an over the top turbo build with a blueprinted aluminum block with all kinds of high dollar fancy stuff. This is a lost art. Great work tony, can't wait to see this thing hit the track!
Agree. It's the poor man's horsepower builds that I enjoy. This engine sounds great
This is the definition of "real" Hot-Rodding! Throwing your mind at it, instead of money. I love it! Doesn't hurt that I am a hard-core Mopar guy who loves the slant. But, the fact remains. THIS, is Hot-Rodding!
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Listening to a guy talk about a 60 year old engine design while taking a dump = awesome, realizing you were reading this guys articles 30 years ago while taking a dump = priceless. God bless you uncle tony this is what the internet was made for
30 years ago, uncle Tony wrote these articles while taking a dump
Uncle Tony when I saw you rev that engine up and saw how snappy it was it was very apparent all the years of experience you have and it really shines through ...
I always get a kick of showing UTG to old car guys . You know the ones that still have flip phones. They always appreciate it.
Seriously, how can you not love this?
Cam specs are pretty close to the R/T E49 Valiant Charger. It's funny how that Slant sounds super grunty yet my 265 Hemi sixpack has a cam about that size and it idles like it's on EFI. DCOE Webers really tame big cams surprisingly well
You’re the master of doing more with less. I’ve never seen anyone do such cool engine tuning and building with basically stock parts and have it perform like your engines do. I started following you right before you got bottle rocket and was amazed at your knowledge of making what you have work at it’s optimum and this build has me pretty stoked to see it make some numbers. Keep up the cool stuff that you do on your channel
I think that's the best sounding Slant-6 I've ever heard I mean I know it's still needs an exhaust but it sounds healthy for a slant six
That belt tension water pump/fan get around has me smiling while I listened to it... Then I look over at the screen & you're smiling too... It's great...
Tony, you are a real hot rodder! Taking a slant six and using your genius making a cool package keeps me enthusiastic.
Thanks looking forward to future videos.
Thanks Uncle T! A great way to start my day. Have my coffee all brewed and at my side, breakfast about ready, and I can sit and watch my favorite down-to-earth channel about no-nonsense cars from the good ole' days!
Tony, you’re a mopar mad scientist! I love your approach to situations like the fan, and your appreciation of under appreciated motors. Can’t wait to see how plan z runs!
I’d probably wager a solid 250-300 crank horsepower with that thing. No matter what power it makes, tony did the pretty crazy thing of COMPLETELY changing the characteristics of the engine from a smooth, slow revving, moderately torquey economical daily motor to a cackling, shrieking 6500-7k rpm free revving monster - and with 95% stock internal parts!!! I don’t know what kind of magic he did to make an engine do those things and sound the way it does and I’ve followed every part of the series on this build. Especially with so many other slant builds just sounding lazy and lame comparatively to this one, he really made it breathe fire. Took all his knowledge and know how and turned the thing into an anomaly. I’ve never heard an American six sound like that besides 10 thousand dollar billet internal prestige drag motors. Impressive to say the least.
Note: measuring at the crank for hp
No more than 180 at the wheels. Car is light though so probably good for a low 13 quarter
300 plus hp is a bit optimistic for a normally aspirated /6, even one with all these mods. If it meets or somewhat exceeds 1hp per c.i. that's a lot. If it puts @200 hp to the rear wheels it will fly because it doesn't weigh much.
@@needmetal3221 I wouldnt say anything that low. 200 at least. The car is full of lightweight gear for low parasitic losses besides the automatic trans which has also been modified. Anyways I was talking about crank horsepower. And I don’t imagine the drivetrain taking as much to turn as what anyone would normally would grade it on.
I find those numbers believable. Datsun Z cars from the 70's had straight 6 engines with even less displacement, 2 valves/cylinder and non-crossflow head regularly making well over 200 whp, sometimes 300 whp in race trim. The slant with more displacement and a solid build should be able to do it too
@@danebeck7900 the valves are side-by-side. Much harder to get good flame travel like a Datsun.
I am still thinking 200-210hp. The torque #s? I have no idea.
Can't wait to see this fly down the 1/4!!!
That fan belt trick is one for the books. I don't know how you came up with it but it's genius!
A lot of circle track guys run their fans that way, simply because the rules say they can't run electric fans or pumps. It works great, just like Tony said, when idling around the pits they move plenty of air and water, then when you smash it and haul ass around the track they slip like they aren't even there. I've seen them do it with power steering as well.
@@livewire2759 you'd think that loose belt on a circle track car wouldn't be favorable, maybe in a heat race it'd be ok but wouldn't it get to hot in the feature if the water pump isn't running
I read about it in a how to hot rod VW engines that dates back to the 60s.
@@kenleppek As long as they're up to speed they get enough air flow through the radiator that it cools and actually helps drive the fan which drives the pump, but yeah, sometimes they do overheat... risk vs reward!
@@livewire2759 I never thought about the airflow driving the water pump via the fan....damn I'm no slouch when it comes to mechanical workings, but I would have never thought of that!
Excellent post start briefing. Always impressed with how much information is actually in RAM within Uncle Tony’s brain. He truly impresses me with his memory of all he does on these project cars. Thanks again Uncle Tony 👍
Where was this 30 years ago when I owned a Slant? Brilliant info and great result. I look forward to seeing it run.
I need a motor like that. It would fit perfect in my '37 Dodge.
I think the mill is gonna run strong. It sounds pissed off and ready to rock and roll👍🏻
Hey Tony, digging the project. I built a very exotic 4.0 inline that lives in the ultimate sleeper, a 93 grand Cherokee. It has embarrassed a lot of pony cars stop light to stop light. Btw, it has 2.05/1.6 valves and it still snaps the head back from a standing start, with an automatic.
Got a video on your 4.0???
Wicked that you are drinking a Canada Dry! Wicked good drink!! This is hot rodding! You don’t need 100k to have fun! This is my favourite so far Tony! Cheers
This thing could definitely get into the 11s with the right gearing, not going overkill on the tire, and keeping the race weight as austere as possible. It will be a sight to see
I did the usual Edelbrock intake,holley four barrel,cam and longtube headers on my '72 318 dodge charger and it ran great! Made great power! Not big block power but good drivable power.I was 21 yrs.old when I had that car and I absolutely loved it..to top it all off I paid $375 for it..a guy bought it,drove it for a year,went off to Vietnam and never came home..it sat next to a tree on cape cod where I was raised and it sat there from '73-'74 til I bought it in 1986.I actually thought it was orange but when I cut and buffed it in my garage it came back bright red!! Only rust on the whole car was the floorpan right behind the drivers seat!! Bench seat,column shift black interior.nothing special no option car.
I’ve always been a SB Chevy guy...but your slant 6 has me thinking... Great info...amazing...thanks for posting!
You have a gift for making videos. Glad you are able to enjoy it and make some cash. Your knowledge is very good as well. Keep up the good work! It is very cool and rare to be entertained and learn a lot of stuff all at the same time
I told him that while we were setting up for the 904 recap video. He is very good at articulating his thoughts in an orderly fashion in one take. Seems easy on the face of it, but not many people can do that, even those who make UA-cam videos regularly.
You know he's reading from a teleprompter, don't you?
@@richardvale214 LOL. I’ve watched him make videos. He wings it 100%.
Ditto. Could not have said it better!
@@michaelanderson5456 But what about the cue cards and the desk notes and the director (Kathy) feeding him lines off-camera?
All kidding aside, you guys are absolutely right. Very talented guy.
Wow. Masterclass for going fast with very little.
What a fun build this is. Good job! Looking forward to seeing vid of her putting power to the pavement. Also can’t wait to see her fully dialed in and on the clock. Dyno figures will be very interesting too! I knew a guy when I was a kid who had a 63 fairlane with the six banger. Mine had the small block v8. He worked his old school style and it was stoutly little monster. My stock small block v-8 couldn’t stay with it. Then a new guy showed up in the area with a hot little 225 that had been gone over well (probably similar to whats in this vid). That little leaning tower of power was really something to behold.
I'm surprised nobody makes a shorty header that mocks the factory 1 piece exhaust manifold? Can't wait for the test drive video 🏁
Not too long ago, Slant6 parts were used "only" now even my work sells replacement intake manifolds,, Exhaust maybe,, for stock I mean, they do tend to crack.. Headers I've seen the short dual headers, not sure who make them, peace Brother..
@@AtZero138 I was toying with the idea of taking a factory 2 barrel intake for a slant 6 and reconfiguring it to run 2 1 barrel carbs one right behind the other to give it that vintage hot rod / rat rod look to the engine . the 1 barrel carbs would be a carter jut like the one on my slant 6 now
That sounds stout tony let's see some 60 foot times with that gtec
UT, I've said it before but I have to say it again. YOU ARE A MASTER!!! There are very few men that have the knowledge and expertise that you do, and particularly with Chrysler products. Just the fan belt set-up described is incredible. Nobody else thinks of that. And I've especially enjoyed all the videos on slant sixes.
Regarding your minimal dissatisfaction with the high oil pressure. I offer the following to lower the oil pressure and reduce oil drag at the crank etc. After the break-in, consider changing the oil to AMSOIL in one of their light weight versions, like 0-w-20, and add a zinc supplement. From my twenty-four years of experience being an AMSOIL customer (and enthusiast) I trust their formulas to provide complete protection. As well, from my experience I know that their 0-w-__ formulas are so thin that upon cold engine start-up you can hear the lifters and rocker arms clacking, yet they have full protection and are in no danger due to their formulas. The AMSOIL web site is excellent and of particular interest for you there are extensive research papers at the site. I do not work for or have any investment in AMSOIL. www.amsoil.com/
Had one of these in an 1985 dodge d100 w/4 od and posi. Had big 4 barrel and ran mud tires. Thats thing got crap for for mileage but would burn out on any surface. Ran like a tank, it speaks to the straight six motors gotta lovem.
45 years ago, I had a 64 barracuda with a 225 and a Holley 390, Clifford headers and the marine cam with 318 valve springs.
An old guy friend of mine had a Duster 225 with a Turbo running 12lbs boost into a 4 speed, that thing went like it had a good 340 in it.
I knew it was a Holley Blue fuel pump!The buzzing sound is unmistakable 😁
You can listen all you want....you said 20, Im a good listener. It was 20. Thats about what I run in almost every car, works great.
Yeah, I heard 20lbs also @11:05
@@bigbear5510 I think he is putting us on, seeing what he can get away with, Sorry Uncle Tony, aint gonna fly.
What are you two talking about I specifically hear 40 pounds in the last vid about 11:06. There’s no conspiracy theory here blame the microphone that picked it up or your ears. He said 40 pounds of pressure.
Great follow up video for those who have not been following the build. I can wait to see what she'll do, hole shot, 60 foot or down the track. Keep on wrenchin' Uncle Tony!👍👍🔧🍪🍪🍦😊
BTW: It sounds like you said 20lbs at the 11:05 but when I watch it several times it looks like you're saying 40.
I love Tony's loss fan belt trick. Keep it simple!
You Mopar guys are a weird bunch. But the world wouldn't be the same without y'all. Much love and respect.
Windage? From what I remember about these engines, you could run them without oil for quite a long time and coolant was largely optional. See: Dennis Weaver in the movie Duel, final hill climb.
Lol
When you see the screen shots of the odometer in Weaver's car, it shows very low mileage. Shouldn't have had engine issues. LOL.
Excellent overview U.T. Enjoying the videos and looking forward to the outcome. Thanks for the insight. Gary R
Genius trick with the fan.
I definitely heard 20 lbs oil pressure. I thought wow that doesn't sound like a lot
I just went and rewatched. He said 20 lbs.
The last vid at 11:06 if you hear “it’s holding 20 lbs of oil pressure” you need to get your ears checked because you’ve gone full Beethoven minus the music part lol
Oil pressure is being used to judge oil flow through the bearings. If the oil pressure is too high when the engine is warmed up it indicates there isn't enough clearance in the plain bearings and the oil isn't flowing fast enough to keep the bearings cooled. Besides lubricating the bearings the oil carries away the heat generated by the shearing of the oil film in the bearing. Remember that the actual oil pressure in a plain bearing is generated by the relative motion of the bearing surfaces and can be from 800psi to over 4500psi.
20-30 psi oil pressure is ok for this engine warmed up. On a old Chevy 283 the oil pressure sensor didn't trip until the pressure was down to 10 psi. Note that on a engine like most current motorcycles have now with roller rods and main bearings you only get 5-10 psi.
It has 40 lbs he covered it Sunday night on the live stream.
@@WhiteTrashMotorsports Granted, he very well may have, but not everyone watches livestreams nor is able to watch 'em when they are on...& he didn't leave that particular one up for some unbeknownst reason...so people can't watch it in order to hear what he said in it. The only video that can be referenced is the last one where he fired it up & ran it.
Definitely going to be interesting to see that car run.
That fan belt trick works for sure I used to do that with my power steering pump on my turbo civic when I’d race it I’d pick up over a 10th of the belt was loose over having it tight
Lighter reciprocating mass indeed , Revvvs! Smart build.w/ relatively stock parts. & all the little details.
Parasitic drag won't matter when all they see is your taillights. 💨💨💨
How about an electric water pump drive ? We used to use the loose belt trick in our NHRA stocker until NHRA changed the rules and allowed electric water pumps . Works nice cooling the engine down in the pits too .
He may not have explained it here, but in a previous video he mentioned that an electric pump/fan setup was significantly heavier than the mechanical pump/fan setup he's got, and this project was 100% about weight reduction. An electric setup adds the weight of two electric motors and wiring, switches, relays, etc... it all adds up.
@@livewire2759 good to lose weight , but if the engine doesn't have to waste power spinning the water pump , you probably will et quicker than the 2 lbs you might lose in weight . Morose and Mr Gasket sell water pump drives that let you keep your lightweight plastic fan ,
@@russabrams3982 Possibly... but the whole point of this build is light weight and tight budget, not just super low ETs. Like he says, it's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast.
That is a sweet sounding slant 6!!! Less reciprocating mass does indeed make for quicker/higher revs.........which was Smokey Yunick's philosophy, back when he de-stroked his Chevy rat motors down to 416 cu in. Actually, the de-stroked rat motor he used in the 1967 Daytona 500 was only 403 cu in. It was intended only to shake down the car during practice BEFORE qualifying. He had originally planned on swapping up to the 416 for qualifying & the race. It was the only Chevy in the entire field because GM had dropped all factory backing, so everyone else was running 426 Hemi's & 427 Fords, making Smokey & his team the true underdogs. ( I AM NO BRAND LOYAL SNOB, I LOVE THEM ALL. But this is a true story. ) The little 403 was so much faster than everyone else during practice, that Smokey decided to gamble & use the motor for qualifying and the race itself. "The little Chevelle" won the pole position, beating all those formidable factory backed cars/teams. But he worried about the engine's durability at those higher rpm's, and strongly urged his driver: Curtis Turner, to "take it easy & stroke most of the race, then use those higher rpm's near the end, to pass the leaders & win, otherwise risk blowing the motor". They gave Turner a horribly slow pit stop, causing him to lose valuable track position. Turner became angry & frustrated, so he floored the damned thing. They say within 2 laps, he was catching the leader ( and race winner) Mario Andretti driving a Ford........and sure enough, he blew the motor. They used one of his de-stroked rat motors ( 416 cu in ) in the very next race at Atlanta, where it was also fastest in practice.........until Turner crashed & totaled the car.
Good to hear you mention the grease pencil on the headers..I did that to know were to put the cross over on my exhaust
You are a genius uncle Tony! Love the project!
I have done the slip-o-matic fan/water pump combo myself before. It does work great!
Man that sounds crisp. Uncle tony almost nothing sounds that good, a jag , six down the mulsane straight, at 8000 rpm in 1960 at lemans,
The V8 Corvettes sounded better in my opinion... especially the L88s of the late 60s.
Sounds wicked !!!! Can’t wait to see it preform.👍
So cool ! Building a 300 ford ! Thanks for the insight!
Awesome motor.
Makes me wish I'd kept my dad's 80 shot box step side truck. It was a 400 thousand mile 6,with the A833 overdrive.
Love the engine. Sounds awesome Tony. Thanks for sharing with us.
Dang, sounds like the way my dear old Pap would talk and walk us through his Chevy inline 6 hot set up builds. Knowledge of what the factory offered spanning years, and use those parts mix/match to build little and light go machines. (I still have the last one that he built 30 years ago, @ 300hp) Thank you.
I had the 1981 Slant Six and it was great even in the 1981 Cordoba.
Just an idea, I took on my 440 Point Eliminator pantronix ,man I tell you what night and day I would not go back to point no way, you hit the gas the response is unbelievable ,start without even
Touching the gas. something to think about...
The elimination of points themselves isn't the reason. The condition, dwell, timing, and voltage to the points are why. Electronic usually fixes a lot of things, but they could have also been fixed with the points...people just usually don't anymore.
Tony has done points vs electronic comparison in the past .
As long as the point system is in top condition , the electronic offered no benefit up through 6000 rpm.
Well in top shape ,agree with you with points but make 20 passes with a 45,000 volt coil ..and never touch the points.. dont know you, but I was there when the only thing was point ....then tell me electronic not better.. sorry disagree....
Had a bunch of slant sixes when I was a teenager. Never built one, didn't have the money, but would have loved to! I look forward to seeing what this baby will do!
Really enjoyed this whole build Take care
I'm just in awe of just the amount of information in his head, and he's thinking so fast his mouth can hardly keep up.
Wow..Uncle Tony!! Gotta say that I am WAY impressed with the throttle response on that slant..thats fn crazy!! Man she sounds really good..it's a shame cuz so many NICE mopars met their demise at the crusher cuz back in the day people were like Nah!! If they lifted the hood and saw the slant or a 318..funny thing is even with that teeny tiny two barrel on the 318 it laid down more hp and more torque than the 5.0 mustangs of the 80's and early 90's I used to absolutely melt the tires off my 318 '72 charger,and even tho I am a dyed in the wool mustang guy if I could have any of my old cars back it would be my '72 dodge charger!!
Yeah until the 85 model year those 5.Slows were a joke at 135 hp 243 tq, that bump in 85 to fuel injection bumped them to 185/270 which only then surpassed you 72 charger 318 at 150/260
For an interesting comparison though the emissions 2bbl 360 FE that everyone hated and called a dog still made 196/327
The 2bbl pickup 350 chevy made 145/250
The 2bbl 351m Ford made 156/262
That shows just how well that 318 stacks up and punches above its weight during the emission years
I would love to work on one of these slants, the only engine i have experience with is my bmw straight 6 and it’s plastic parts galore
What engine? Definite fan of the M20, S52, M54, S54, and N52's.
Did you say it Broke My Wallet?
@@cgberz n52, one of the last reliable engines bmw made, just a lot of plastic
@@krispytoast8804 early N52's have a magnesium valve cover. It is a sweeeeeeet engine though.
@@cgberz yeah I have the 06 so it’s still got the magnesium valve cover and the Ccv system is separate, i definitely prefer it over the plastic one
Thanks it’s bottled experience. Would of been gone when your gone now it could live forever outstanding sir
You just cant beat the old cars. Thanks for sharing.
Uncle Tony the Mopar whisper it's amazing. 😊
Thank you I love how many stock replacement type parts you use .
I hope to see kids doing more things like this .
First off, Thanks for sharing so much great info and wrench tips! Second, got a silly question: Have you considered building up a 218 or 230 flatty? I was talking with machinist about those engines. He was telling me that with the gap between hp vs torque curve on those engines - a guy could build one to act much larger and more powerful than it actually is.
Quite high compression, sounds snarlly, love a snakey slant 👍🐍makes me want one despite there weaknesses
Good choice for the ginger ail! Canada dry!
Thanks. I tried to keep up, but I couldn’t as I had back surgery. I’m thinking about doing a similar build in a Gremlin. Very similar build to this one, but there are new performance parts available for it, so down the road I can make improvements a little at a time.
Yep I heard you say 40psi in it as I originally watched it. Don't even give to go back and listen I remember 40.
Love the slant six's, quality materials and reliable. The distributor used a nylon gear and was the " bugger " that would spoil the fun. Bronze replacement fixed the little issue. Check all slant sixes as that may be the only reason the car was parked. I personally have seen this 4 or 5 times back in the day. Happy hunting.
I used to work on an Aussie Charger drag car with a 265 and we ran a davies craig nylon water pump, no fan or thermostat in the motor just a thermo switch for the pump...that type of set up does away with the fan mount both pulleys belt and water pump housing completely (plated over) and saves a lot of weight..Our motor had no pulleys just romac balancer.
Valvoline VR1 is a high zinc oil I use that in my air cooled beetle
Congratulations Tony she sounds crisp.
This is such a fun series, cannot wait to this car race down the 1/4. You have covered your extensive pursuit of lightness what about aerodynamics? All of those holes in the radiator support and front edge of the fenders might be a disaster aerodynamically?
OMG....Mopar Guru, this is the motor I wanna see in the Miata.
30 plus years ago, we used to drain the oil and coolant out of the engines of vehicles that failed safety inspections and were going to the scrapyard. We would run the engines just to see them grenade and blow up. The Chryco slant six and Ford 300 lasted the longest! Oh, the good old days! Haha... :-)
Love it , Buddy! Never had one, but would if I could. disassembling a 400 MOPAR now for Stroker.
Great idea for the fan hmm
Unless it flies off down the track. Belts are cheap, though.
Eveytime he talks about windage, I have to chuckle and wonder where the guy is claiming he could build a dry sump oil system for one of these that would be cheap enough for a lemons car motor...
Very detailed review...like reading the old mags long ago. Wonder what a correctly set up Predator carb would do for initial off line rate of launch.
That sucker sounds mean! I love it! Still lovin' the channel and the "other guy" engines!
sweet build! thanks for the info
Slant 6, got one in my D100, fun engine
Got one in my d100 too
@@Welcometofacsistube got one in my d150 she's been putting food on the table since 83
65 d-100 here also,slant 6 & three on the tree
Got one in my 83 D150, has a factory 2 barrel on it with the A833 OD trans and 3.21 rear end. I'm currently looking for a second slant to build for it.
@@danieljones2936 same setup as me, I have 2.71 rear gear.
I do understand that you had shown some of what you had done when grinding metal off the Block in a previous video. I am wondering if you could show something like that again, but a little more in depth please Uncle Tony? Cheers for the video :-)
Old time racers used that trick when I was coming up. Once the track went NHRA they stopped allowing the loose v-belt as sometimes that would turn into a whip and take out radiators drenching the track. You can do even better putting a electric motor off to the side of the water pump and drive the pump and fan blade with the electric motor at will..
Do you know how much weight you took out of the body with the cheese grader???
Geez , go through tech with the belt tight , and loosen it before your first pass !
I'm happy to hear my '82 W150/225 engine is so light because even though it's 4wd, I won't have to use the 4wd so often if it has good traction without it, unlike my friends horrible '93 D250/Cummins traction nightmare. Now if I can only figure out how to bold a 2.2 into a B200. with rain tires for safety, you should dragrace plan Z Oscar and Bottle Rocket in the rain. I bet Oscar would win due to traction. I was impressed when your passenger got out of that beater and it was no faster without her than with her due to reduced traction; and that was on dry pavement with her in the front seat! Traction RULES!!!!!!
Remember, both rain and mud are common in Tennessee, and 4wd is complex and burns more gas, so I wish they would bring back the Corvair wagon. Was it's engine cast iron? How does the Smart Car do in the mud? with a big tool kit behind the seat?
I want to see videos of this running on the drag strip.
Agreed, hopefully coming up soon. :-)
I'm dying to know with the quarter mile times will be with this. Even if it "only" does thirteens that's still impressive.
You could even shoot a little WD-40 into the pulley groove to help the slipper clutch effect
i wonder what making a tube intake with all equal length runners would do to a slant 6. i know thats not a budget build thing but i would be curious to see the results. I built (machining and all) a slant 6 in automotive school back in about 2002 or so for a friends 65 cornet 4 door. we were younger then and used every aftermarket part we could find, new or used, it turned out to be a great motor.
Love the content, my first ride was a 63 Dodge Van (Fargo) with a Tilton Hilton room 225 with a 3 on the tree. Gutless as hell but ran great. Then the block cracked
Lol wasn't sure, 63, 64, we were told it was a 66, maybe it had a different engine in it. All I know was early 60s . I tried putting a 904 in it and it didn't fit because the snout on the TC was bigger than the hole in the crank. So probably a 66 or newer 904 and a 64 225 . As I understand the snout was bigger after 65. Doesn't matter, ain't got it anymore
Respect the work. Those sixes are underrated. Too many commercials in this video tho.
Love the fan belt trick.
wow 11:1 CR I missed that during build. CR is everything.... it's such a happy engine :-)
Awesome idea with the belt. Thanks.
It sounds happily pissed off
Love this build been watching it since the beginning👌🏻