How To Make Rose Bee Hive Boxes
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2014
- Rose hives are a particular type of beehive and one that I've used for many years. Usually hive boxes are made with lots of fiddly little parts -- this way uses just four. I know they don't look very lovely, but they are incredibly cheap and quick to make and the bees do very well in them. This is mostly to do with the management system that goes along with them -- all the boxes and frames are the same size and there's no queen excluder.
You could make boxes to fit other types of hives using the same method (National, Smith, Commercial, Dadant, Langstroth, etc. etc.)
If you're interested, there's more info on Rose Hives on www.rosebeehives.com and more videos on David's excellent channel.. / workwithnature
I like the ingenuity of your work shop. Especially using that scissor jack for the lengths. I’ll have to incorporate that.
hello friend, I am very impressed with the way you are cultivating bees. I am also a beekeeper, but a traditional breeder. I am very inspired by your video and very happy with your video, greetings from my traditional beekeeper from the province of Bengkulu, Indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩🙏
greetings to you too, Ahmad : - )
What a brilliant video, thank you so much for sharing the details. Love the car jack for fine adjustment prior to cutting with the radial saw. Also liked the method you have made for vertical cutting of the large sheets. Looks like a circular saw running on two mild steel round bars guiding the saw. Really great stuff. The Bees look really happy. Keep up the fantastic work, and these videos.
You are so smart, thank you for the new video. I can't do this, but love all your videos. Keep posting
I live up in Fermanagh. Been wanting to start a couple of hives around the farm. Thought i may as well go the full way and make the boxes myself. Great guide
Five star video, those scraps will make a nice step stool.
Great video, very clear with the drawings. Cool jigs and adjustable saw stop.
Amazing, it`s very simple explanation. thnx a lot
Great video. Hive looks really good.
I like the use of the scissor jack with your bench saw!
Your adjustable stop block was brilliant!
Hilleary Brown
This is just superb, been searching for "beehive decoration ideas" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Tiyia Beehive Basophilic - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my m8 got great success with it.
the car jack with your saw, that's a damn good idea! (Y)
Yup, just watched this video again and the scissor car jack stop block is out of a dream, again. Smart smart smart.
I just notice now the work carts at perfect outfeed height. I think many of us would welcome a detailed look at your favorite features in your shop.
Andrew Graves yeah i gotta make me a jig like that for this summer!
Great idea to use the jack as an adjustable stop.
Great video! You have inspired me to become a better bee keeper. I only wish I could get at least half as good as you. Greetings from Barbados. May u and ur family bee Safe during these trying times! live long and prosper.
Wonderful. Informative, concise, and creative. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome. Job!!! Wish I had 3. Where I reside you need to get a permit to have a beehive. I wish I could. It makes me happy to see your videos they are Tops... Thanks, Blessings Laura M
but I have to say those hives look very very nice. I like the tint they got when you applied the sealant. And the gap in between each super so that the bees don't get squashed was a brilliant idea
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Wow Tim,
Nice to see how you build the Rose hives and with tools that are very nifty.
Will try and share your video on the Rose hive videos we did together, see if you can get some more traffic.
Excellent job.
David.
I know Im randomly asking but does someone know a tool to get back into an instagram account?
I was stupid lost the password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.
@Willie London instablaster :)
really amazing and professional
wow.. thank you
What an amzing workshop you have!
wish it was bigger : - )
I love the ingenious little jigs you use. That vertical panel saw is very clever. I have a huge Altendorf. It needs a space approximately 6.4 metres x 4.2 metres. I put thicker end boards on than you do. I get a lot of inspiration from you and your delightful partner. Thank you from Roy in the Blue Mountains outside Sydney Australia
Glad you like it, Roy. It's mad that people round the world watch our little videos, but we're glad they do!
You made them look so easy to make
Judging from his workshop he's your average beekeeper a mad man
Wonderful video thanks so much for taking the time to make it and share it. I was wondering though if you make your own frames and if so do you have a video explaining how to make them for the rose box in this video? And if not if you could provide a link (if you purchase them online) and information as to which frames fit into this Rose Box? Thanks again it is a huge help for me as well as for many others I'm sure!
waw,your work blew my mind
Hey Tim and Sandra, just wanted to say thank you for all of your amazing videos on bees and keeping them. I agree with your style 100% I like it a lot, I was thinking of doing something similar with a 10 frame langstroth, I did some math and the weight should be similar, about 5% heavier with a 10 frame 231mm langstroth full of honey vs the 12 frame 183mm deep frame on the rose hive. I have your book, and I was going to make a 10 frame styled after your rose. I am still thinking about it, not committing yet. But I like the idea of OSB.
If you have medium Langs, then use them. Apparently they work fine (I haven't tried). I only made this design because we didn't have anything else suitable. Good luck!
Very nice video. I am not sure that all the cool wood joinery techniques would have been invented if people invented modern wood glue first. As Mr. Kalashnikov said, "Perfection is the enemy of good enough". I just made some drawers with basically this technique. but I think if I was going to make a lot at once like you do I might consider a jig to hold it square and then screw it together. ETA; Cool stop block.
die sind wie die Zanderbeuten so gut!
Very professionally done. I don't even have a saw! Impossible to make without electrical tools
Not impossible, just much more time-consuming.
Thanks guy. good job
It's very good job, I like beekeeping!!
*I am VERY jealous of your workshop.*
It took a long time!
muito bem montada estas caixas ! parabéns !
Wow, I don't have all those wood cutters you have..
Now I have to find one already made. Save the Bee's.
Well done.
Great job
wow..amazing.Good job
Fantastic job !
I think you are absolutely right. The four pieces compare very favourably with the eight accurately machines pieces for a National hive which is also made worse by the difference between brood boxes and supers. So, well done and thanks for sharing.
On question I do have is that I always find ply, (even external), de-laminates when edges are left exposed. Is this a problem you experience?
i like their equipment
FANTASTIC,, MABEY I SHOULD TRY THIS.. .GREAT VIDIO.
Another great vid! Thanks you for posting!
Thanks Chirpy Mike!
Oh now that was great. I shared it on my facebook too. Really enjoyed watching the wood work. Reminds me of my dad and my grandpa. Thank you. Love bees! I am excited to hopefully have my own sometime. Yay cool stuff! :)
funny_sweets_greenthumb thanks - bees are the best!
:)
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i want to by honey on tap
Thanks for sharing.I've been thinking about getting into bee keeping for some time as our area is full of bees in the summer. I know very little about the subject so was interested in finding your video. Do you also make the trays that go inside the hive or do you buy these? Thanks again.
Thank You! I was wondering if plywood was ok, well made video/box Your jigs are brilliant, your carts are smart, and thank god my grandparents are Irish!
so nice work
Big workshop you do have so, no either way easier than this one. Good job but very hard for me to do myself, lol.
If possible, a video showing the construction of the frames with the respective measures (in millimeters). Greetings from Brazil.
Acf Moc
Thanks !!!
Thanks for sharing
Nice work
Very nice job. Ill take 20!
thank you
waaooo wonderful
Beautyful
the best video
Great video, Becoming a keeper very soon and I appreciate the help. You have another subscriber here. Going to see if I can locate that book here in the states. Greetings from Michigan, USA
+B Casey Thanks, B. Welcome aboard.
In Michigan you may be better served with a insulated Layens hive! Check out Dr Leo Sharashkin on youtube.
Best use of a scissors jack ever.
I hear they can be used for jacking up a car too - but that could be just a myth : - )
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Hi i Like the Film.
its very good Idea´s...
Greetings from north Germany
+Die SelberMacher Thank you. Greetings from West Ireland
Thank you for funny and interesting Video! I enjoy it very much!
Best greetings from Ukrainian bekeepers! Good luck, Victor
+Dr Victor Fursov - Entomologist & Beekeeper Ukraine Thanks, Victor. Hello Ukrainian beekeepers! (Waving frantically!)
Best spring greetings!
Dr Fursov I am reading about Layens Hives for the colder climate of the US. Would you recommend them? I am building them per the plans from Dr Sharashkin. Would be interested in your thoughts on them.
I love learning all the different beekeeping ways. But for your comment on "quick". This build seems to have more steps than a simple Langstroth.
Amazing
Good very nice Best beutifull my sweets friend
As a fellow wood worker, i gotta highly recommend that you get a dust collector. Or at least wear a mask. Saw dust will cause loads of respiratory illnesses. Dust collectors also keep the place much cleaner.
Great job man, due to my english I did not get the measures of the box, can you leave in your description. Thanks a lot.
I put them in the description..
ótimo na parte de marcenaria !
TIM I very much like all your videos as lots of other folks.
I hope no one will mind me saying but I got a top popular USA brand router on Amazon and paid the duty to UK customs
and it still was half the price of a similar quality brand here in the UK........ there's a program on telly called rip off Britain !
I got the kit to turn it into a bench model but will fabricate the table when I get round to it so as to make it similar to Tim's 'moulder'. So long as the fabricator is ultra careful with those fingers & ends up with the amount they started with after a few DIY beehives ---- I shudder to think ---ouch. How much I ask is a finger worth?
I'm confident Tim makes his own bee hives as well as saving a lot there is that sense of satisfaction when you put to use things of your own making. Sometimes the feeling is intense------ My first bit of Biodiesel I made for a few pence per litre = brilliant......
I was grateful and still am from the very great help I got from the USA biodiesel makers.
Good idea
Hi Tim if you do decide to do a CD let me know as I would be more than happy to purchase it. all the best.
You could make a video about making the frames?
Fascinating! Would you have knowledge of using thymol oil and cinnamon powder to ward off black hive beetles. An old German gentleman told me he uses them but don't have mixture recipe.
Sorry, no. Luckily we don't have shb here yet
Tq for info 👍
Thanks for great video and book!! I'm hooked on the Rose-method and plan to start up Rose-hives this spring. Question: Here in Norway things tend to get pretty cold in winter. Do you think 1/2 " ply would be too thin here? Would you wrap the hives or what? Thanks again for inspiring beekeeping!
Sigmund Barø Thanks Sigmund. I think it's mostly the air in and around the combs that insulates the overwintering cluster, not so much the wall of the hive. So (in theory!) the wall just has to stop the wind blowing the warmer air away. In practice, 1/2" ply works well here - but I wouldn't like to promise it would work for you. My advise would be to see what your local beekeepers do and learn from them. At least Norway is dryer than here! Best of luck!
Good job bro>
thanks for the video :) . I just want to ask, do you use queen extruder?
No, I never use queen excluders
thank you man your work is brilliant! are those timbers treated? can I use treated timber to make some?
Some people use treated timbers but I wouldn't. Remember, 'treated' means 'poisoned'
Thanks man.I appreciate it.
Hi Tim, thanks for the rose give method!
I'm going to purchase one next month and i've already read the book, I love it!
I already have a national .
I was wondering to convert from national to rose, is it possible to place the rose box UNDER the current single national brood box and just wait for the bees to move in ? With the thought perhaps at the end of the season. I could remove the national brood that was on top , accounting for enough stores etc ?
Thanks again,
Dominic
Yes, you can do it that way too, but don't be surprised if they haven't moved all their brood nest by the autumn - you might have to overwinter both boxes - but that's ok too. Good luck!
@@WayOutWestx2 Thanks Tim for your reply , I appreciate it .
This is amazing and I understand many years after your video; but I was wondering if you could make a video of how to make these with much less gear(like just a saw or something)??? I have very little woodworking gear and would like to build myself instead of paying $200 USD for a pre-made(unassembled) box.
Good idea, Robert. Not sure when, but it's one I'd like to make..
Robert LASTnameDENIEDhehehe soni
IT'S very good
This is a great video. How long do your boxes usually last? Also is there a reason your hives are all painted red? I'm new to beekeeping and am trying to learn as much as possible before I jump in.
+Dimitri Bianco They're only red because I like the colour. We live in a very wet part of the world so I expect to replace all these boxes within 3 - 5 years. Good luck with your beekeeping!
Tim, i realize that the frames in the rose hive are a bit different from the langstroth frames. I would be immensely grateful if you make a video making and showing the differences between the two.
Greetings from Brazil.
Yes, that might be interesting, Andrey (but what would I do with the langstroth ones?!). I'll have a think...
Wow, nice job! I was thinking this dude has a xooso load of big tools, lol.... made me a little envious. I am in the USA, an urbanite, and although I do have a smaller back yard, I'd have no room for all those tool machines! Is there a way to just buy these Rose HIves somewhere? Thanks from a bee and all-about-bees-lover!
you can buy rose hives in the U.S. through Marcell Campbell, blackstarseeds@gmail.com
vare good
Finally someone who dosnt kill every bee and destroy there cones
you have enough saw dust to make wood pellets for pellet stoves. that doesn't look hard to build with all the equipment.
Can you make a video showing how you make the frames please? My Irish Mum and I are very curious about that. I am saving for my Rose Method book. I love your other videos and subscribed :) I just may make a cart for the Horses too!
+AtomiKat Light Industries Yes - I will make a video of that, AtomiKat. Thanks for asking!
You don't have to save up for the book - I'll send you a free one if you send me your address. (Privately might be best)
Glad you like our videos,
Tim
Hallo thanks a lot for the very informative video, I have one question do you do the frames yourself? if yes can you please make a video about that in the future thanks :)
mario63ist I cut down standard frames. Well, just the side-bars. Yes, I'll show that sometime soon. Thanks for watching!
Good
I need this one
What's the difference and advantage of using a Rose hive over Langstroth and Top bar hives? I'm thinking about building a hive since a relative of mine is a beekeper, but I'm not sure what kind of beehive I should make.
+The FicSkull TBH are tricky to use because the combs are not supported and can break easily. The others are both frame hives - it's just that Rose frames (and boxes) are all the same size and you don't use an excluder. The bees can cope with any of them so choose the one you like most and they'll be fine (probably!)
Hi Tim have you ever thought of doing a CD start to finish of the making of the Rose Boxes, looking after the bees through out the year, and finally processing the honey? I realize that you do show some videos of the above mentioned, just a thought.
+John Traynor Good idea, John, - it might even happen : - )
Our very own Roger Patterson mentioned the Rose Hive in one of our recent webinars. Hope you are still enjoying your beekeeping, Tim?
Awesome, thanks!
Thank you! : - )
Thanks for the info. I have purchased two of the Rose Hive Method books and have passed them on to other previously-kept-bees-but-got-frustrated beekeepers to share the knowledge, and the books encouraged them both to start beekeeping again!
I'm using medium supers for my new hive (5 frame nuc arrives in May) and I think I made a fatal error- I bought an 8 frame hive. Given that this is 4 frames smaller than the rose hive OSBs, how much of a problem will this be? Should I switch my equipment to 10 frame before I get stuck with 8 frame equipment?
+wishingbee No, 8 frames is fine. I just developed mine to fit the local standard parts - you could just use medium 8 frame boxes and achieve the same thing, couldn't you? Or would it be too unstable if it gets tall?
Excellent, thanks for the response! I've been worried about the width of the brood nest with the 8 frames. I don't think it'll get too wobbly, it looks like it should be stable at least to 6 or more boxes, easily, although now I'm off to google that scenario. I'd love it if my first hive in ages would be vigorous enough to test the height boundaries of an 8 frame system. :D
How do you make your rose hive frames??? Read your book and would really like the specs.
Wood working master
Great video............But why can't I just screw a 1 X on the side for the handles. Wouldn't this do a better, quicker job? So I would have an outie-- instead of an innie handle ?
+miserableoldman Yes, you can - it would just mean the boxes get heavier, not lighter. But if you're feeling strong..!
Is ply wood ok for the bees? Great clip!
+Darrenholmes My bees don't seem to mind it at all, but I guess real wood would have fewer toxins in it. (Though all wood has toxins in apparently.)
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