Is This Secretly the Best Gaming Mouse?
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Logitech’s G Pro might just be the most popular gaming mouse ever made.
Everyone knows that it’s a high-quality head-clicker, used by some of the biggest names in esports - and it’s been that way since the day it came out. Unfortunately there’s always been one glaring issue with the G Pro and now the Superlight -- the price.
But when it comes to price-to-performance ratios, there aren’t many companies that can beat Pulsar.
The X2 and X2 Mini are some of the best mice on the market right now - and they’re cheaper than almost anything of similar quality. Many people even consider the X2 good enough to rival the G Pro and the Superlight.
But is the X2 actually better?
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Pulsar X2's are great, but they've had fairly major struggles with quality, many units have had issues with click quality and double clicking. Superlight is also almost always available for around $100 here in Europe. I'd guess it's the same in the US, probably only found with the MSRP from Logitech directly.
True, only LAMZU, Logitech and Razer are available in india without customs duty. I hope the pulsar and endgame gear will soon come to india. Right now I have a pulsar X2 bruce lee edition, I love the shape but the price is high due to customs (almost the same price as the deathadder v3 pro) if LAMZU had optical switch I could have brought that
I love your videos man 😍
In india,
gpx cost around 145 usd dollar
Viper V2 pro - 148 usd dollar
Deathadder V3 pro - 165 usd dollar
💸😔
I was waiting for endgame xm2w for more than 6 months but my previous is broken badly so I had to buy a new mouse so I went with pulsar and I am happy with the choice
This 100%, I completely dropped Pulsar products because each one would come with horrible QC and they tried to act like nothing was wrong with the limited edition X2 I got that had wobbly buttons. Trash company.
Crazy to see my video featured at 4:31. Great video!
Amazing to be included. Thanks so much 🙏🏼
Been using the X2 for a while, and can definitely say that this is a top tier mouse when it comes to shape and weight.
The only thing that REALLY bothered me were the switches. Compared to any other mouse I´ve used before, they feel insanely heavy and hard to click (and I´ve really tested many). Couldn´t even really spam click on it.
Ended up replacing the switches and replacing them with optical ones. Perfect mouse now, really hope that the new versions they announced at CES already have optical switches built in ^^
EDIT: Got my mice mixed up xD not optical switches but softer ones. Cant go from mechanical to optical sadly. TTC gold as p man said. Really soft clicks, similar to a burst pro imo
can you actually replace with optical swiches?
i am starting to have double clicking on my copy.
can you suggest me some options?
@p man or TTC gold?
thx for your effort bro
it really depends on your grip style, the balancing on the g pro makes it feel so much lighter than 62g, and it is a bigger and safer shape. I personally have a weight modded x2, that wieghts in at around 49g, and it is a close tie between that and the lamzu atlantis for me.
tbh the attention to detail, the quality, and the specs of these mice are insane for the price.
What I really want is a viper mini wireless without holes but I'm tempted to get the lamzu mini. The gpro was way too big for me.
@@t7274 i mean the x2 mini is a better shape for my hand, and it is easier to weight reduce, and to swap out switches.
@@squee05 what's your hand size and grip?
@@t7274 honestly never have measured, no idea, but i def have larger than normal hands
To anyone looking for more info on this mouse. The new batches will use their optical switch to eradicate the known double clicking issues this mouse has. On top of that the coating will be updated as well to match the feeling of their Bruce Lee edition.
great news
@@serantos any eta when the new coating will be standard?
the current versions has double clicking issues? damn
@@evilkamatis542 yes very badly. The new versions only have been announced for some time in 2023. Models are xlite v3, X2-H,X2-A and their new Es model. The standard x2 that's out other then the Bruce Lee special edition and the upcoming boardzy will still have double clicking issues.
@@Demon09-_- well im glad i held on my superlight. I was about to get the x2 mini but since there will be an updated version with a better coating, might as well wait for that. Never tried optical switches tho so not sure about the feel of that one. I really like the light click feels of the switches used in superlight. I also have another mouse that use HUano 80m but it feels heavy in click.
The x2 has a way better shape than the superlight, it feels more specialized towards claw and fingertip grip which is why I like it far better
The best thing about the gpro us how versatile of a shape
Yeah the gpro feels like a fucking soap
I'm a palm grip user is the x2 any good for that?
@nuur2825 the superlight is much better for palm but the x2 isn't horrible as long as ur not just flat on ur mouse
@@nuur2825 no
A well-researched video about one of the top gaming mice, good job theScore! Can u also make a video about the Ninjutso Sora, Lamzu Atlantis/Atlantis Mini? Many people need to know those brands and u have the perfect platform to reach people who are unaware of these brands. Hopefully, if their sales go up, they can innovate more. They deserve the same adoration as Pulsar for what they're doing for the gaming mice community.
They failed to address the poor quality control of Pulsar on the X2 series though. Very important to note.
@@CEngi U nailed it, but overall this is a step towards introducing the mainstream audience to these smaller mice brands. Unlike us who browse through r/MouseReview every day. Imo Pulsar is like the second coming of Glorious when it comes to qc issues lmao. I just hope they make the Bruce Lee edition with the opticals the standard edition of the X2 with minimal to none qc issues.
Ninjutso Sora is known for major sensor issues. Like the X2 is known for really bad qc. If a mouse is that cheap there will always be issues somewhere. Mostly it will be the mcu or sensor implementation. Zowies implementation of the 3370 is way better than most 3395 mice.
@@Nico-nw6tb I've seen that as well, but I've been using my Sora for 2 weeks now and it's been flawless. I guess u still need to get lucky with the qc lottery.
@@CEngiyeah so just get the lamzu Atlantis it’s basically the same just with good quality
Recently got the X2 Mini, all i can say is this Mouse is what I've been looking for a long time, Plus the Superglide of Pulsar is just another reason why you would want it.
I hope you got the Bruce Lee edition or have some good luck after 2 months mine has started to double click on both m1 and m2
@@Demon09-_- mine got scrollwheel issues after like 5 months of hard use, they paid for the fastest shipping possible for me to send them the mice for them to fix everything, i went from Brasil to Korea and back in two weeks and that is nuts for me
ethos : "Pro VALORANT player" lmao
Haha 😂😸
its always ethos xD
That guy is trash I love ranked higher then him multiple seasons in a row
@@alex11268 man what?
@@takkipusa6910 he said he has ranked higher than ethos many acts before
I've got the x2 mini in red and i can confirm it is absolutely better than the superlight
I brought the exact same about 2 weeks ago and it’s so much better
@@Iammaybejordanallan especially because if finger tip ivr got so much more manuverability
Bruh same
I got both sizes. Waiting on the new new coming out this year. Skinner waist and taller hump optical switches and 4k
objectively its just preference, if you get a mouse with no issues.
I used both of these mice they are two very different kinds. I used to main the X2 for 2 months, while the GPXSL is my current daily driver. The X2 is better on paper specs and for me, the shape was slightly better and more comfortable for me (claw grip). The one thing that the GPXSL is miles ahead of the X2 is THE BATTERY LIFE. I don't know if it's just my unit, but my X2 lasts just under a week, and the GPXSL lasts more than that. If Pulsar just had better QC the X2 would be far better than the GPXSL.
i know i have not charged my superlight in a month but maybe thats because i play apex legends on controller and i dont play many other games so maybe thats why because my super light doesnt get used so much
I'm a long time CS player(GE) and Valorant player(D3) and I actually bought g903 instead of G pro, purely because amazon has some mad deals on logitech stuff all the time. The G903 was 60euro and the G Pro Keyboard was 80. Given the qc issues pulsar has had, I'd say it's too early to jump ship, but they are on the right track.
glad to see you guys getting clips from very good content creators that know what theyre talking about like fresh reviews, optimum tech, boardzy and nacho
When choosing a mouse to main, the one thing that should always be on the top of your mind is the shape. Shape trumps everything else.
absolutely true. the x2 skate basically require a control pad and some break in time so that it becomes grippy but after that, it's insanely GOOD. No need to waste money on 150+ mice.
I appreciate the gpx because it was the OG light mouse that made light wireless mice main steam. But the popularity ushered in a wave of competitors and have some amazing mice coming out.
One of the reasons the sensitivity between different mice feels off is because of DPI deviation. The X2 and G Pro essentially have the same true DPI but other mice can vary wildly.
F.e. the TenZ mouse has a 5% faster sensitivity when set to 800dpi because its' actual DPI is more like 830dpi.
I just got my pulsar x2 mini bruce lee edition and I absolutely love it. I have smaller hands and aiming with it feels great and my previous mouse was the viper ultimate. The coating as well on the bruce lee edition is amazing (different coating than other models).
How's the battery life?
I have personally used a G502 for 4 years, moved onto G PRO X Superlight for half a year, and then bought a Lamzu Atlantis which I definitely prefer over the GPX despite not being a claw gripper.
boardzy in a cracked video is indeed shocking
the most subtle ad on youtube
Can confirm. I've had all iterations of the X2 from the beginning. First X2, little bit of quality issues, second batch(red and other colors) perfect. BL, omg 😱 I've already forgotten about that GPro mouse. Great review brother. I will always choose Pulsar X2 for my gaming needs. Well maybe the MZ1 too cause I love it is well. Cheers....Fatal
Unfortunately none of these cheaper alternatives will ever come close to Logitech/Razer's wireless implementation. For example the Pulsar X2 and related mice that use the same chip have 2-4ms of click latency. I believe this will be fixed in the future but atm, the best wireless tech is with these two companies. This is why I am modding my Starlight-12 to use Razer's 4K wireless tech. Nothing beats 4K polling rate, wireless, and almost 0ms click latency.
pulsar's said to release a 4k wireless version of X2 in 2023 though
@@galjaprat The issue isn't that it doesn't have 4K, it's the click latency.
@@JtwasLuck 4K mice will typically have lower click latency because of the change in MCU which Pulsar is doing.
@@paul2609 Paul is right, the compx mcu they use for the x2 currently can't do 4k and is the source of the click latency and idle delay latency issues. If they use a solid nordic encoder to implement their 4k tech it should be similar if not on par with razers implementation. Fingers crossed.
@@paul2609 The problem IS the MCU, they aren't changing it but in fact they are trying to fix the issue in software.
after using a mouse with optical switches i cant go back to a mouse with mechanical switches because of the double click issue. every single mouse i bought developed this issue
5:12 love the videos guys but one question, why is the door knob so far from the edge, just wondering
bro right that's so weird lol
I've bought Pulsar mice for about a year now, they are simply fantastic!
well on german amazon the superlight is constantly on sale for 100 Euros so if you live in a country within the eu you can order without any shipping fees
i litterally dont know anyone who paied over 100€ for the g pro
Bought the X2 Medium and GPX at the same time. The GPX is superior in every single way except for weight which is not a major factor when you are talking a few gram difference. The major distinction between the 2 mice is the shape of the rear hump. The real reason why GPX works for so many people is because the rear of the mouse is narrow and allows it to fit into the palm of your hand much better than any other mouse. Your palm fits AROUND the mouse -- not on top of it. It gives additional squeeze pressure and leverage that hardly any other mouse allows you to generate. Oh yeah and the clicks and sensor are better.
Oh shit boardzy and Fresh Reviews in a theScore video? *click* n o i c e
I have both the Pulsar x2 mini Rotobox edition and the Logitech G Pro X Superlight(Red). I have a medium size hand and so far and I would like to share my experience for you guys who are planning to buy the x2 mini. As an FPS gamer with a medium size hand the problem with x2 mini is "MINI" and my lower palm drags so much on the mousepad that it's making me shakey, my type of grip could be the factor to this since I like my hand fully resting on the mouse with a little pressure on the mouse for more control but with the x2 mini I can barely feel the pressure on my palm giving my less control. There is a reason why more than 50% of FPS pro gamers are using Logitech G Pro because it is in my opinion overall better grip for most people. So here's the list of mouse that I have: Logitech G Pro x Superlight, Logitech G Pro, Finalmouse TenZ edition, HyperX Pulsefire Haste Wireless, Steelseries Aerox 3, Pulsar X2 Mini(Rotobox2), Glorious Model O and out of those In my opinion Finalmouse TenZ has the best grip for me (but I don't use it cause it has scroll wheel issue but overall Logitech GPX is still better.
I have been using the Logitech G5 Laser Gaming Mouse for years but now I'm using the Logitech G400s and I like it.
The X2 already comes in two sizes, and Pulsar is about to release updated versions of it. Including one with a higher rear hump. So yeah, pulsar wins even though their QC still needs work.
the SIBILANCE in this audio is wiiiiild
G Pro X superlight is on sale so often in Europe they could almost just as well just lower the price to 90 euro incl tax.
Man I just use a G305 Lightspeed, it was $30 and I’m happy 😂
Ok
In Germany on Amazon the Pulsar is 125€ the Logitech G pro superlight is 109€.
Got mine used in mint condition for 70. Spent 20€ on switches, encoder and corepad skates air.
Best mouse I ever used.
I wish they’d make a left handed version of the g pro but were such a niche crowd that they never will
Honestly, I much prefer a bit heavier mice and so I am very content with my Basilisk V3 Pro - especially since I got it in Christmas sale for 40 bucks.
Ive owned 3 logitech mice in my life, got the first when i was 13. A g502 proteus core, first 502 on the scene. Then went for 502 lightspeed not because something broke, but it lasted so long that there was so much gunk on the mouse i felt disgusted. The lightspeed worked amazing. But i wanted a light mouse. Now im using a superlight and i have no doubts it'll grow to be my grossest head clicker. Im 25 now.
I can see the appeal but nowadays the G PRO can be found with significant discounts. Amazon, Microcenter and Bestbuy can all price match as well.
Just bought the superlight it definitely has something
The x2 mini is 10x better
@@Iammaybejordanallan I just got a superlight and wanna try an x2 mini but I wanna hold off incase they update the main x2's with the bruce lee copies coating on regular copies cuz I dont really like the yellow/black colorway
@@Iammaybejordanallan not really
I find micro adjusting a little difficult with the x2 mini. If they could just curve in the sides, and lower the hump a millimeter, it would be perfect.
"The shape isn't exactly the same but its familiar enough"
My god. The front end on the X2 is non existent and you cant use your fingers to pull the mouse down. It's a square.
Anyone who buys the X2 is nutty.
If only Pulsar X2 didn't have that high click latency... I am looking forward for them to use a newer model switch
there is no best mouse, everyone has different gripstyles and ways to move their mouse. Dont get a mouse just because some pro uses it.
No. If it doesn't have a numpad on the thumb side, it is suboptimal. Your left hand has immediate access to 52 inputs. Why is your right hand limited to 3-5? This should be a standard expectation by now.
my x2v2 is arriving today cant wait
Last year, November, I bought pulsar x2. Double click after 2 weeks, battery last 30h, in software shows 40% battery and the mouse died after 1h. (Paid 114e with shipping). I sent it back and got another one with same problems. I sent it back again and bought gpx for 90e. If this video wasn't sponsored by pulsar why you didn't check the prices? Gpx is not 150e for long time. The battery last 3 weeks 5h/day gaming. I will upgrade only for a 4k mouse at decent price.
For extra small hands xlite 2 mini has been so good. Like my hand never cramps or hurts doesnt matter how long i play. Also the shape is universally good imo. I have different grip for some games and it still fits to my hand so well. Also if i remember right this mouse was like 90e delivered. I recommend.
i thought the glaring issue is the inevitable double click XD
There are so many other alternatives to the Pulsar X2 for the same, lower or higher price and same or better performance and all of them have better QC than the X2 has had. X2 is not cheaper than almost anything in its class because only Razer, Logitech (which doesn't count anymore, because its price is pretty much always 100 bucks or lower everywhere except the G-Pro homepage and it is already 2 years old) and now Zowie expect you to pay more than 120 bucks for a modern gaming mouse. Pretty much every other manufacturer has a lower price tag for similar quality and similar performing mice.
would love to hear some of your recommendations!
g pro x superlight is only 35 bucks more on amazon, and like 50% of reviews complain about bad quality control. would not recommend, just get a g303 wireless if your going budget
I love my Logitech gpro superlight. I will never use another mouse. It has made my aim so much better in Rainbow six.
I am using a pwnage sym 1 gen 2 and i'm just in love with it. Simply amazing.
logitech the only wireless tech that doesnt fuck up my wifi
Pulsar also has a slight click latency problem the logitech doesnt have, as well if you leave the mouse idol for more than 5 seconds the latency is multiplied even worse. Just be aware of that dont hold angles for more than 5 sec and make sure you have good ping
Lamzu is another underdog thats giving competition to the bigger companies.
Yes, they release their new mini too.
The problem with this mouses, still use 1000 hz polling rate, at least must have 4000 hz for 240 hz or more monitors.
Funny thing is pulsar and logitech g pro x superlight are priced the same. And pulsar are black market meaning don't have warranty.
Eh, been using the Death-adder for over 15 years and I don’t plan on swapping now.
I wouldn’t say $95 is a “extremely” affordable price, but for its performance, is good.
VIDEO STARTS AT4:40 LIKE HOLY CRAP DUDE JUST DOESNT SAY IT AND RAMBLES ON ABOUT USELESS INFO
Optimum Tech has a very in depth review on the X2 mini. The lag on this mouse is what showed me that Razer or Logitech are better options.
At least you know where they cheaped out. Imho razer and logitech are better options. You pay 50 buck more but with no shortcuts
My pulsar only lasted 2 months which is the fastest a mouse has ever died in my 30 years of pc gaming experience; disappointing considering it took two months to get it in the first place. My MM2.0 is 30 years old and still works, My IntelliMouseOptical is 27 years old and it still works. I have an original Karna boomslang 1998, still works. The first ugly blue Zowie mouse that I bought in 2009 still works perfect.
Pulsar not selling on Amazon here in India
Sadge
X2 Bruce lee Edition is just wildly amazing.
The clicks are amazing.
Shape is amazing (for claw/palmgrip)
X2 mini is absolutely amazing for Fingertip grip.
I have 19/10cm hands and after spending more time with the mice i find that small mice aren’t consistent for my aim. I have perfect aim in one game then the next one is rubbish.
With the little bit of support in my back i always aim very well.
I aim better with small mice (x2mini/tenz pro/viper mini) sometimes.
So i usually use a little bigger now.
Love RJN 3/1 rule.
How's the battery life?
i would be killer. the onyl thing that doesnt make me choose it is the click latency and klick feel
Honestly I don't get the hype around the GPX. Its so expensive and feels cheap. My wrist hurst from holding it more than 15 mins. Zowie EC2 / Steelseries Prime is my to go mice. Currently rocking the SS Prime.
Because it's lightweight and has a safe shape that fits most people. You prefer ergonomic mice based on your suggestions. SS cheap out on their sensor for the Prime (3335) which I could feel when I compare it to my other 15 mice, feels slow to react to movement compared to 3370/3395 sensors.
@@paul2609 If you can feel the difference in a sensor then you are fooling yourself. Not even pros can feel the difference. Having a better sensor wont make you a better player. I had more than 20 mice with sensors 3335 3370 3395 G HERO etc etc. Cant feel the diference other than the mouse shape. Stop fooling yourself
Switched from the gproxsl to the x2 medium and didnt regret it.
Changing mouse pad is not a good way to compare 2 mice
Pulsar supremacyyyyyy. Coming from Glorious Model D and G Pro Wireless.
X2 first batch actually have that QC issue but the rest should be good, it is good for fingertips user. If you are a claw grip person then go for Lamzu Atlantis. I was using G Pro X, now using Lamzu Atlantis all I can say is Lamzu fits my hand better than GPX also it is much lighter. The only issue I have is the left and right click sometimes feels weird because my finger are a bit too long for the mouse so I click on the front end often, sometimes it feels like stuck but it bounce back. Was looking at Pulsar X2 but I know it will be too low for my grip style.
When will there be a video about wooting 60HE? No wonder that zywOo uses that.
Dont forget the added fact that you have to get aftermarket stock feet for the superlight cus the stock ones suck
a friend of mine that i met online in battlefield v just sent me his g pro superlight and i love it best mouse i've ever used
X2 has interesting shape but qc issues make gpx a better pick. Now if we check some videos with input lag....so yeah razer and logitech show no mercy
Wooting + X2 + Artisan Zero = Best ever.
but those 2 have same price in europe O.o
@OPTIMUM TECH you are now fammooos!
The Pulsar is one of the worst competitive mice, in fact when it is idle once you click there is a huge delay before it shoots Optimum Tech addressed this solution. It is one of the worst mice for valorant if you hold angles
As someone that swapped out my gpro super light for the x2 mini, I can confirm the super light is a better mouse. It has overall better quality and the software is really good, meanwhile pulsar's software is one of the worst. The pulsar fits my hands better and is lighter so I'm staying with it but the mouse stands below the gpro.
The pledge that replaces your mousepad 💀💀💀💀💀
No. A it isn't a secret. B, it's been out for years and companies are just catching up and C, pulsar definitely isn't the best.
G305 is alright. Get a bigger warranty with it if you can. Having NiMH AAA in it for perfect Balance and we have a month long head clicker.
On Amazon it goes for 100$ often
Is it really ambidextrous when it only has thumb buttons on one side?
yeah sure))) not an ad at all XD
is it weird that i like heavy mouse more than the light?
Too bad the QC is garbage on them. Also Lamzu Atlantis is a solid competitor to this.
And the XMW2E as well. And it has an extremely attractive price
Where is the measurements???
i have the gpx, but now it's got sensor drift error i guess, because sometimes it flick down or up randomly, from your opinion, should i get a new gpx or try the x2? i have no warranty on my gpx bcs it's been 2 yrs or more ig
thank you
The Pulsar x2 in Denmark cost more than the superlight lol
Ah yes the extremly resonable price of the same as a G pro superlight on sale.
You don't need to mod the Pulsar to be decent
@@paul2609 mod what?
The X2 quite simply is just a better mouse than the g pro superlight. They aren't far off but I don't get why it's such a shocker that a new cheaper mouse has come out 3 years after the gpx. Not to mention the Lamzu atlantis which had a way better launch and has had a way better reception, darmoshark m3, Zaopin Z1 pro, phylina s450 and dragonfly vgn f1 pro.
Never been a big logitech fan. Been using razer deathadder since 2007/8. Best mouse I've ever used.
When they say claw grip they mean it, it's a good mouse if you use that style grip.
If you don't use claw grip it can become uncomfortable after a couple hrs of gaming.
glorious model O is the only mouse that fits my hand at an acceptable weight level.
Having both the pulsar x2 is much better imo