WEAVER - One Elementalist Build for Guild Wars 2 Open World PvE, WvW, PvP | Pyromancer Guide
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Many players struggle to survive on Elementalist, and while it is true that baseline it is the most squishy class in Guild Wars 2 with the right build and some practice it can be one of the more survivable and more powerful classes. Here is a Weaver build that can survive and provide presence in all game modes.
Equipment: Full Celestial with Sanctuary Runes
Sword/Focus or Dagger
Torment/Cleansing or Mischief
Orrian Truffle and Meat Stew
Find out how to get gear here: guildjen.com/category/guides/...
PvE Traits: [&DQYfJSUbODV0ABcBNRdPAfUV6wBzAJAAEheWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=]
WvW/PvP Traits: [&DQYfKSUbOD90AHUAcwAdATUX6wCQAJAAEheWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=]
PvP Gear: Sage Amulet Sanctuary Rune
Sword/Focus Energy/Cleansing
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Weaver Mechanics
2:30 - Equipment
4:09 - PvE Build
10:00 - Skill Rotation
19:24 - Legendary Wyverns Bounty
29:27 - WvW Build
33:29 - PvP Build
34:53 - PvP Commentary
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The 83 button rotation is super easy, you'll get it in no time!
Be glad I simplified it to around 30, the pve rotation should actually have 80
@@Vallun Do you have a written guide or video on the 80 rotation? I absolutely love Weaver and it's my first class. I want to master it even though other classes can do way more for less as well as it being a glass canon.
@@smash44556677 its the snowcrows raid build, not this one
It really is like a dance once you get the hang of it 🤣it's fun even when you mess up the rotation, there's always something beneficial you can do
At one point I considered weaver, but ultimately gave it up because it seemed overly complicated for me. After watching this... I feel I made an informed and sensible decision. lol
I've been trying it and I can say, when we are doing content with a party my DPS is the lowest unless I use the correct rotation like super focused and others spamming some skills or auto attacking with buffs like a Herald, seriously it is fun to use but to play it feels really hard to make it work and kill stuff fast, I am doubting into moving to a Catalyst with Quickness and Dagger
The way you talk and present information, the tone you use and all have been improving and improving. Love your videos :D
Going to try this one out! Thanks for the video Vallun!
I find your voice and style pretty mesmerizing and soothing at the same time, it's strange but in a good way ^^ I loved how well explained everything is and also the ability you have to talk while fighting and actually tell what exactly you are doing! That for me is an skill I admire.
Thank you for your All-In-One builds, they always look like a lot of fun and I will potentially try all of them!
I tried your weaver build and rotation but gave up after a few hours at the golem - it's way too complicated for me! What did work was changing up two traits in the weaver traitline and alternating between fire and earth for the double element boost. It's probably a bit less boons, especially protection, but the damage and might uptime is good. For more survivability I will need to get muscle memory for evades, water field blasting and cc down. Working on it!
Great video and makes me want to trying playing this build setup
Nice video as always, Vallun. I am a huge fan of fire/arcane weaver, too! Try it with Aristocracy rune and you'll generate a lot more might!
I saw your stream a few days ago and was hoping you would do a video on it.
Thank you for all your efforts
This video single handedly made me want to play GW2. Thank you for the great content!
Thank You for this inspiration for a build. For several years elementalist never felt right to me and now it is one of my favorite classes because of this video!
These videos always make me want to try the build because Vallun’s skill makes them all look really fun and viable. Then I remember that I have nowhere near enough time to get gud at them lol. Here’s hoping Vindicator allows Revenant to be a better duelist so I can stand a chance against the one shot weavers and thieves in wvw
Can't stress how fun this build is in PVP! It was really confusing at first and I'm still far from 'good' at utilizing weaver's full power, but I've grown some muscle memory after 10~15 rounds and now I just can't go back to my Reaper anymore.. tysm for sharing this awesome build 🙏
Hey thanks for the build! As a new player in love with the elementalist aesthetic and also looking for something that I can play in all content - this video and build is perfect for me! Can't wait to try it out.
Just rwo questions:
1. on your website it says to put sigil of energy instead of cleansing/mischief. Is this because of an update? Which sigil would be better do you think?
2. For those who don't have Sanctuary runes what else would you recommend?
Totally new to guild wars.. But this is the class I want to play. It's going to take time for sure but thanks for the video. This was the only weaver video I found that could break down how the class works and what I need to do. Ty ty ty
Curious on your thoughts on sword vs scepter or staff now that they've been buffed
I truly wish to try weaver because I like the playstyle (I usually gravitate towards melee characters). The sheer amount of combos deters me from this. I'm not a very dexterous person. Remembering and executing all of these tends to be too much for me. Still this video has inspired me to try. Will give it a go. Thanks for the informative video.
So how is the gameplay going?
@@Gerritson It is going fine. The barriers help a lot in survivability but I still need to get a better grasp on consistent fire aura uptime.
@@DHKAMITY sounds good. I will try this build out aswell! I think when you can comfortably keep up the fire aura it's already alot easier
Nice video. I've started out with playing Tempest but i'm liking Weaver. I like doing PvE and some WvW and your builds definitely help. Your videos are really fun to watch and learn. Do you have a favorite class/build that you like to play the most? And thank you for the video!
thief is my main but ive branched out in the last few years
Bro. Thanks a ton.
Love this class
The fact you can activate the same attunement twice in a row to go back to 'normal' 3rd skill blew my mind. :S
Man thanks a lot again for this build, you are using almost the same as I do even in trait lines, but there is no way I can play like that in less than a year unless I focus on my Weaver only and also going for Ascended (using exotics now). Also my DPS wasnt as bad as I thought, I read you usually will be doing 9/12k DPS alone with all Ascended as a standard in any build, is it because that is based con more cookie cutter builds like Zerker, Viper, etc?
Is there an alternative to runes of sancturary?
amazing video. very informative and i cant wait to try out this build.
One question though. Would this work with air traits? I personally find default movement speed utterly unplayable so i really need the 25 move speed from air attunement.
you get swiftness from arcane traits which just requires you to swap attunements to air
Hey does using rune of elememtalist fine for this build in pve group contain mainly?
how is it now after all updates?
Still viable for fractals, strikes etc?
@Vallun Just a heads up, this video hasn't been added to the overarching Elementalist playlist so I think a lot of people are missing it!
fixed thanks
Nice! Love celestial stat and ele!!
Does this Build works with dagger too?
I just finally finished unlocking weaver on my ele and although it’s for sure the hardest class to play with little damage (so far) I find myself wanting to play it over things like my mechanist and my virtuoso because it’s harder to play. I just hope I can get it down eventually.
Heya Vallun, Long time listener, First time caller..
Are the Superior Runes Of Sanctuary your preferred rune for this build in WvW say over the Superior Rune of Speed ?
I like the sound of having a beefy barrier in WvW but not to keen on loosing swiftness duration..
Thanks mate!
the idea of this build isnt just for wvw, if you go to my dedicated wvw fire weaver i use speed runes, if i want sustain everywhere then i go sanctuary
Sanctuary runes got nerfed, so the "tankiness" of the build is pretty... bad? what runes can i use instead of sanctuary?
Haven't played for a couple of years so idk how the game & community is these days, but would a celestial or trailblazer weaver be accepted in fractal groups, anyone know?
33:25 I don't know when Anet is going to fix this. I thought i was doing something wrong with heal rotation until someone told me that some combo field messages are bugged.
Yeah, I wish they would. It's really annoying.
WOW! Just wow.
how do I slow this down even more? pausing the video is still too fast
in terms of hard open-world content, would this build be viable if i just camp at air and fire(and maybe do that protection combo from time to time) ?
if you swap between the two fast enough it should be fine, but you really will lack a lot of the sustain if you dont learn to do the water combo
Going to make change for the pistol coming soon ?
Great video, havent finished yet. :)) Have you tried mixing in more condition damage with trailblazer, few trinkets maybe?
You rely on healing power from celestial for lot of the sustain
Trailblazer works great, too. Tankier and significantly better damage over time, but less burst and healing. I like to run it with undead rune and fire/earth to really ramp up the damage reduction and stack condition damage to crazy levels. But in my opinion the fire/arcane celestial build is better sustain and more fun to play!
Hey, I've been playing GW again for 3 months now and I've decided to play Elementalist and I'm playing the bouild shown above, although nowhere near as well but I love it!
I'm currently looking into how much DPS one should reach and have found numbers from 20-40k.... But I only manage about 6k and Vallun has "only" 7k on the Golem...
Is that just bad or are 20-40k too exaggerated??? can someone give me a bit of info?
the 20-40k is exaggerated by buffs given by the console, and also those builds are designed for doing only DPS so ofc they will do more damage when its a dps golem not pressuring them back
Based on the arenas i did before and after the change, damage is lower, i used to have around 20% of total team damage done, but now i barely get to 15% usually being at 10%. I also see it in my opponents, with staff or non weaver dagger signets build i used to burst down weaker targets fairly quick, now i have to brawl with them so much i actually start losing. Healing done is also slightly lower by around 5%. KDA ratio is the same mostly (between 1:1 and 3:1 on average).
Now i understand my low rank and little experience are also at fault, but assuming i get better with this style i will just reach the stats of my current non weaver build. So why would i bother using a much more complicated rotation for the same results. I would have understood if it was fun, but it's more difficult to maintain all those things than fun. For PVE i suppose would be enjoyable, but the pressure in pvp makes this build very unpleasant and uncomfortable.
I've been trying it and I can say, when we are doing content with a party my DPS is the lowest unless I use the correct rotation like super focused and others spamming some skills or auto attacking with buffs like a Herald, seriously it is fun to use but to play it feels really hard to make it work and kill stuff fast, I am doubting into moving to a Catalyst with Quickness and Dagger
Good lord! I am sure now that I made a mistake choosing Weaver for my first character to level 80. No wonder I die if I take on more than a few mobs at once.
Today I learned Weapon Swap sigils work with Attunement swaps, I had no idea!
Same for rev legend swap, holosmith forge mode, necro shrouds (excluding scourge ofc) :D
@@ohboiipedersen3010 also engi kits
Overall everything, that change your 1-5 skills is considered weapon swap
Is pyromancer croissants that much more viable than blindness? I like the idea of 100% dmg mitigation vs losing all my might for some more burn. Considering burning is of no short supply and might is important.
every 8 seconds is not that often, but if you keep going in and out of fire attunement, sure you lose might but you are constantly burning things and gaining that might back
@@Vallun yeah, I think if you are running with a team and want a supportive edge that skill would totally be viable. As you then become a might fountain for your group. But if you are soloing, I think losing 30% base dmg eveytime you leave fire is detrimental to your output. You can regain it like you said. But might effects current dmg. Right, so if you apply bleed and then get a stack of might, the bleed dmg you already applied goes up. Flip that around, if you lose might the bleed you already applied goes down. So when you pop out of fire, all your conditions decrease in dmg by quite a bit. I suppose if you are rock solid at maintaining might then it is viable. I think I suck at that a bit and I run solo.
Nice.
Good video. I’m trying weaver for my main. I do WvW roaming and open world pve when I need a break. I’m understanding it but it’s just so complicated. Might be back on the ranger spamming longbow.
Hi. What trinkets you use on this build. Any advices about up to date this build for last updates.
P.S. Sorry if my questions sound dumb. I’m just new to this game.
check the description build page for any updates
@@Vallun thanks for fast answer
how to deal with bosses that only can be hit by ranged atk?(period)
E.g. some boss got small blue circle, you can only deal dmg in that blue are,and somtimes it turns into a bigger circle and you can only deal dmg from range…hope you understand (english not good)
for that you play with a scepter
2:30 In case anyone is not a fully committed gw2 player, this equipment point is where you walk away. This is not easy to get. It will be really time consuming. Dungeons are abandoned content and you need to do alot to get a full set of these runes. Celestial is either really expensive to buy or time gated if you craft it yourself (2 days per piece).
you can easily get stat selectable ascended from any game mode, if you're crafting ascended gear then you are going the hard way
Wouldn't Rune of the Weaver be a better or equal alternative? I find it extremely useful in both pvp(Sage/ Valk) and WvW (cele) for my weaver.
its drastically less barrier than sanctuary if you understand the synergy between sanctuary and signet of restoration
@@Vallun Yes, it is indeed less barrier, but it's 'barrier over time'. I play a similar build but with d/d and 4 stances and find that Rune of the Weaver provides more 'burst barrier' for the 'oh crap' situations - especially useful for solo roaming in WvW - at least from my experience.
@@edward_edo well if you run 4 stances then it can be good, but are you running 4 stances to use weaver rune or are you using weaver rune because you use 4 stances? If i have to change my playstyle too much to get a synergy its often not worth it
@@edward_edo can you link me your d/d build ? sounds fun
@@Vallun Wasn't really thinking like that when I put together my version of the build, but good point. I just feel that active stability application is lacking so Stone Resonance is a must for me, and it's super busted with extra barrier from the rune. Then I take ToF over Glyph of Elemental Power (2 stun breaks 75 sec cooldown + barrer vs 1 stunbreak 30 sec cooldown + extra damage). I'm left with 1 utility slot which goes to Primordial stance for extra damage+sustain (barrier) on low cooldown. I realise that I sacrifice the mobility by not taking Lightning Flash, but it just fits my personal playstyle better.
P.S.The 4th stance is the elite
Sanctuary does not seem to be around anymore. I cant find it at the trade post :(
its a dungeon rune
Whats the pvp rotation??
I love your ff10 name. Seymour was such a cool bad guy. Not as cool as jecht but still pretty cool.
Please do one of these for Catalyst!
Would this work for Raids if you are aiming for max dps ?
thats quite the antithesis to this. Maximum dps and survivability don't come together. You'll need fire earth traits and full vipers for that max dps playstyle
can you recommend an alt to sanctuary .
pack or elementalist or antitoxin
Is this build still valid now, a year later?
I'm also using this build. I just have one thing to add: sigil of mischief is not that useful on pve because many mobs especially champs are immune to blind
Sigil of mischief works well to proc traits that use blind, which admittabily I don't think ele many, and to have a spike in power damage.
Also blind is a soft cc and it's nice to have a source of blind, as soft ccs benefit from being unique to help with champ break bars.
yea i ended up not using the sigil for that reason, but thought it was cool enough to mention
Used to be my 2and most played profession. Now I only play elementalist to remember what it feels like to be in the downed state.
This build looks like it is really annoying and frustrating to figure out but once you do it’s extremely fun and engaging. I’m for sure going to have to change my keybindings though because reaching for f4 an 6-9 sounds like carpel tunnel.
From this video I learned that playing a weaver poorly is a flex on anyone playing anything else else.
I also learned that Vallun has big brain energy and is a god amongst mortals.
I’m glad ArenaNet added a character class with this level of complexity. It’s amazing.
when i Thought Invoker of Dota2 is a piano play..this one must be his Master;D...if u ever master this.. is every class easier?... i got a Elementalist, but surrenderesd it..is it worth to try this Masstery? - he seems to solo a full squad in WvW!
How do i get the Rune of the Sanctuary?
you can do the story mode of honor of the waves dungeon to unlock the pvp reward track then salvage the gear you get there for the runes, or just get it from the dungeon vendor by doing explorable paths
Cool build but my Ele is a minor alt i play around from times to times and this is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much for the amount of efforts im willing to put into it. Already doing the piano rotation thing on Holo. Cele Tempest is also pretty good and a lot simplier.
What spec is next? Give us a hint! And lets make it Power for the power creep
power scrapper
Any alternatives to sanctuary runes? No one does HotW :/
leadership, pack, even durability. Any rune with boon duration on it and some sustain
Getting anyone to play HotW is a nightmare. It's been 9 years and I still haven't even done the story mission.
I would recommend:
1) Use a different profession/build to solo the Story Mode
2) Use 160 PvP or WvW potions (to complete the reward track twice)
3) Open the armour boxes from the reward track
4) Use Black Lion Salvage Kit on the armour pieces to get 2 Runes. Use the 480 Symbols of Koda (from Reward Track) to buy the other 4 Runes.
5) Ensure you keep upgrade extractors (6) somewhere so that you can retrieve those Runes should you ever decide to swap them somewhere else.
6) ???
7) Grofit
@@Vallun How would you rate runes of fireworks for it? It also fits some other arcane/cele builds on nec and mesm
@@zenzit3479 if you're saying because you want fireworks on your necro and mesmer and want to use the same gear, then yes you can always be suboptimal for convenience sake. Would I in any circumstance use fireworks if i had other options? probably not
I recommend Aristocracy rune. It'll keep your might stack bumping up against 25 stacks for most of the fight.
hello, how do we get the pahua badge?
hey check out the guildjen.com gearing guide you dont necessarily need to craft pahuas gear as you can just get stat selectable ascended, but trailblazer can be obtained from the WvW currency from the provisioner at every spawn in WvW
@@Vallun thanks ;)
But what relic are u using?
This build is 2 years old when relics were not a thing :) Now, if the build is still valid, I would choose Foreworks or Fractal.
Is this build still viable? I tried the raiding beginner weaver build and am getting demolished by mobs in HoT.. so frustrating
yes viable. Dont use the raid ver for open world. Raid version are for pure dps and assumes other people are healing and providing u the max boons.
i went weaver.. using the button mash method.. it’s hit or miss lol
Superior Rune of Sanctuary technically isn't all healing but all active healing and 20% of a couple hundred here and there (the trait and heal skill passive) isn't very much. Combo'ing water the field will get most of the impact of the rune. Around 1300 base healing per finisher so about 260 barrier each finish. About 1k barrier if you use 4 finishers which you may not want to spend all at once. Only over a long duration will Sanctuary be helpful but most like people won't spend 10+ minutes solo'ing a group event. Even then you are just adding up small amounts of barrier over a long period of time.
Then taking Sigil of Torment to increase damage seems a bit weak. If you want more damage run a more damaging rune set. Antitoxin runes, Balthazar runes, etc. are decent choices. Or use torment sigil with a more damaging rune set if one wanted. Almost all boon duration runes are defensive so along with cele stats makes it take longer to actually kill anything/anyone.
The point is to be defensive, especially when weaver has plenty of damage alreadt. Sanctuary runes is like light protection because it has barrier up always reducing every attack to not feel squishy. Torment sigil triggers extra healing from signet so its a balance of defense and offense. IF you want more dps in situations where the mobs dont fight back then by all means go balthazar and vipers
@@Vallun Cele weaver is capable of decent damage because ele has easy access to stacking might and cele makes it easier due to the boon duration. In pve the damage fine but against decent players is another issue (which you kind of admit to in the video). Sanctuary is basically worse regen when actively getting heals from using skills/swapping attunements. Saying a weak pulsing barrier makes you not feel squishy is silly. It won't save you from burst as you admit the stance traits helps more with that.
The point you say is to be defensive but you say in the video to add torment for damage when it is minimal. It proc the heal passive once for 202 base heal (171 pvp/wvw) that is ~40 barrier baseline on a 5 sec cd.
I am talking about building cele weaver better not going for more damage and playing a dps fractal/raid build. If any new player tried vipers weaver they would probably be crying about downstate ele on the forums. The point is if you are playing cele weaver adding torment runes for "defense and offense" makes little sense as if you are lacking damage there are better rune sets out there.
my dedicated WvW build is more optimized to use speed runes or antitoxin runes, the link to that video is in the description. This version works too but is more generalized, due to the premise of the series.
@@Vallun I have seen that video. I questioned the rune choice there as you were saying to use speed runes on fire weaver. Yeah it can work but I still find the build choices weird.
16:39 my god, that is the single most impressive display of rotation mastery i've ever seen; putting your money where your mouth is
what race
Hi, can I use a staff in this build? Would the loss of dps be too big?
if you want to use staff do it with the fresh air tempest build in the playlist in the description
Still viable?
vallun I m sorry bro I stick to renegade ele is kind of complicated
guardian can hit healing skill every 3 seconds if he gets the proc,weaver dont need to use the healing skill,Checkmate
Just started playing Weaver today... yep it was a mistake lol
I mained support ele in wvw for years, but other than that very specific iteration of the class, I'm just not into the class enough to invest my 'git gud' points into weaver, which is just too complicated and vulnerable without that investment.
For open world I have a FA tempest build that uses glyphs and ogre runes so I have pets tanking for me while I freecast scepter pew pew. It works well for somebody who's never put the time in to master a dps ele. IF I ever change my mind about weaver, I'd like to do something more like your wvw scepter weaver, that seemed more aesthetically gratifying. More 'wizardly'.
Is this still viable?
Very.
Sorry but I still prefer condi weaver sword dagger. Far more versatile anywhere. Maybe I will build power weaver for CM's but I doubt it. Condi Weaver just smashes.
Bruh weaver so out of meta that its the only Vallun video youtube did not notify me about, had to scrolll down to randomly see it on my list.
Is this build still relevant?
So did u ever try it?
@@ninjacuttingonions5861 No i didn't
@@Remox1738 I tried it today and feels pretty good.
One ele build to suck in all game modes 🥳
I find it funny that you say it’s one of the hardest classes to learn. It’s literally the ONLY class I know. 🤣
nothing compeers..nothing compares with TEMPEEEST!!!! :D
Just call them mom and dad dude.
now i know that i will not touch weaver, my brain exploded XD
I was thinking this for the longest time but recently tried weaver and its not as scary as it first seemed. Ofc theres alot of muscle memory involved but if you have time to practice i think weaver is the most fun class in the game. If you think of things simply (as in each attunement as a specific role as vallun described) it becomes much easier and over time you can learn the confusing shit he says as just second nature. Just give it a go, im sure you can do it if you put your mind to it!
@@lilijhonston maybe some day i will try thanks :D
@@Winirar I wish you luck if you do!
Nice tho but too many click
So overpowered Anet removed them from the game lmao
The fact that you can’t move skills in the skill bar made me not play this game.
Tempest > Weaver