I had my best depressive episode a couple weeks ago. After years of therapy, I was super kind to myself while I was unable to get out of bed. I spent literally every single moment in my bed and I just let myself be. I didn't judge or condemn myself. I didn't shame myself or call myself names. And I kindly spoke myself into brushing my teeth in the evening after eating a couple cookies (all I could bring myself to eat). I felt okay enough the next day to get out of bed. It was harder to be kind to myself than it has been in the past to treat myself badly, but I spoke to myself like I was my own friend and it...baffled me how much better I was.
tbh i couldn't afford therapy anymore, felt guilty everytime i went because it was always another week of the pressure building up to get better. Then I emailed my therapist spontaneously to take an indefinite break and felt more alone than ever. Enough to actually consider trying antidepressants the next day. almost 3 months later and I honestly feel better than I have in years. It's not like it fixes everything, but I can actually move myself out of bad mindsets and thinking more clearly about my life. I wish I could still afford therapy just to unpack the fact that I actually deeply believed the depression buzz in my head was just who I was and I'm scared it will all come back after the 12 months of ADs.
Kati, thank you so much for answering my question about how to accept depression. It means a lot ❤ And thank you for your amazing podcast in general, it really helps me get through the days.
When your therapist tells you, out of all her clients you are making the slowest progress, and you are a very difficult client to work with. That hurt so much. I didnt even question her or ask her what she meant. To me she didnt want me as a client anymore and i stopped going.
Thank you Kati ❤ My new therapist does specialize in BPD (yes, you were right in that one) along with Trauma and PTSD. She also does EMDR, which she hopes to start after the start of the new year. I am completely worried I will attach to my new therapist and I have to find a way to bring it up with her. It's a real fear that is overtaking me, yet I feel like I will break in two if she rejects me. I will also try to look into the other therapeutic style you mentioned as well, PARTS and IFS? I just have a whole space load of stuff going on. I don't feel that anyone should be saddled with me. Right now, I am only able to focus on being here long enough for my girls (my cats). But I can't tell you how much you answering my add on meant. Thank you for saying you care. It's nice to hear.💙
Hi Katie it’s been 6 months now and I’m still grieving and struggling with my former therapist not seeing me as a client anymore. I have a good bond with her, I made an extreme amount of progress and it stopped so abruptly. She went on bereavement leave with the loss of her therapy dog and her family is facing medical problems. I’m devastated and I’m seeing a new therapist now. Im creating a bond with her. It’s not the same, I’ve seen my former therapist for seven years. It’s a process and I’m trying to move forward. I feel lost
Kati do you know what questions you’re answering for the podcast next week? The community post only has 2 questions liked and I’m curious if you’re only answering those two! (Selfishly curious, as I asked a question that week 😅)
Just because you're white educated and professional doesn't mean you should be a "therapist" or a social worker. And therapy should come with a warning label and an introduction. 🎉
Do you call it "burnout" as a clinical term in the U.S.? In Sweden the casual term is "utbrändhet" ("burnout"), but the clinical, diagnostic term is "Utmattningssyndrom" ("Exhaustion syndrome").
Thank you Kati ❤ My new therapist does specialize in BPD (yes, you were right in that one) along with Trauma and PTSD. She also does EMDR, which she hopes to start after the start of the new year. I am completely worried I will attach to my new therapist and I have to find a way to bring it up with her. It's a real fear that is overtaking me, yet I feel like I will break in two if she rejects me. I will also try to look into the other therapeutic style you mentioned as well, PARTS and IFS? I just have a whole space load of stuff going on. I don't feel that anyone should be saddled with me. Right now, I am only able to focus on being here long enough for my girls (my cats). But I can't tell you how much you answering my add on meant. Thank you for saying you care. It's nice to hear.💙
I'm a psychology student and I was taught that only Sweden and The Netherlands consider 'burnout' an official diagnosis. In other countries, 'burnout' doesn't have a clinical meaning
@annasophia2005 i think that totally needs to change!! Every country needs to recognize it as an official diagnosis because it is killing millions world wide!
@@daviddanielsson3643 It is! Also makes it really hard to define what burnout symptoms are, because it's such a broad term (I was also taught that burnout and depression have a really big overlap in practice, so it's a debate whether or not burnout warrants an additional diagnostic category)
@ I know. It’s unnatural and impossible to sustain indefinitely. Sadly, so many of us are going through it, and it doesn’t look like it will be letting up for many. My heart goes out to you and to all enduring this. Hang in there. You are not as alone as it seems. 💜
The idea of being able to "choose" to see things as possibly getting better seems very privileged. It's totally normal to see things as getting worse and that they will continue to get worse if the circumstances indicate that. If someone is going through financial struggles, medical issues, housing instability etc and there is evidence of continued fall out from these things - the reality is that things will get worse. It's being realistic. And it's not always possible or even logical to try and keep on rose colored glasses, if at all. in fact it's invalidating. Sometimes one can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, cuz sometimes it's literally not there. Sometimes depression won't improve because the circumstances that brought it on don't improve and until they're corrected, it will continue bombarding you.
I had my best depressive episode a couple weeks ago. After years of therapy, I was super kind to myself while I was unable to get out of bed. I spent literally every single moment in my bed and I just let myself be. I didn't judge or condemn myself. I didn't shame myself or call myself names. And I kindly spoke myself into brushing my teeth in the evening after eating a couple cookies (all I could bring myself to eat). I felt okay enough the next day to get out of bed.
It was harder to be kind to myself than it has been in the past to treat myself badly, but I spoke to myself like I was my own friend and it...baffled me how much better I was.
tbh i couldn't afford therapy anymore, felt guilty everytime i went because it was always another week of the pressure building up to get better. Then I emailed my therapist spontaneously to take an indefinite break and felt more alone than ever. Enough to actually consider trying antidepressants the next day. almost 3 months later and I honestly feel better than I have in years. It's not like it fixes everything, but I can actually move myself out of bad mindsets and thinking more clearly about my life. I wish I could still afford therapy just to unpack the fact that I actually deeply believed the depression buzz in my head was just who I was and I'm scared it will all come back after the 12 months of ADs.
Kati, thank you so much for answering my question about how to accept depression. It means a lot ❤ And thank you for your amazing podcast in general, it really helps me get through the days.
When your therapist tells you, out of all her clients you are making the slowest progress, and you are a very difficult client to work with. That hurt so much. I didnt even question her or ask her what she meant. To me she didnt want me as a client anymore and i stopped going.
Therapists are like cops. They get disturbingly angry whenever someone asks them to actually do the job they get paid for.
Thank you Kati ❤
My new therapist does specialize in BPD (yes, you were right in that one) along with Trauma and PTSD. She also does EMDR, which she hopes to start after the start of the new year. I am completely worried I will attach to my new therapist and I have to find a way to bring it up with her. It's a real fear that is overtaking me, yet I feel like I will break in two if she rejects me.
I will also try to look into the other therapeutic style you mentioned as well, PARTS and IFS?
I just have a whole space load of stuff going on. I don't feel that anyone should be saddled with me. Right now, I am only able to focus on being here long enough for my girls (my cats).
But I can't tell you how much you answering my add on meant. Thank you for saying you care. It's nice to hear.💙
Hi Katie it’s been 6 months now and I’m still grieving and struggling with my former therapist not seeing me as a client anymore. I have a good bond with her, I made an extreme amount of progress and it stopped so abruptly. She went on bereavement leave with the loss of her therapy dog and her family is facing medical problems. I’m devastated and I’m seeing a new therapist now. Im creating a bond with her. It’s not the same, I’ve seen my former therapist for seven years. It’s a process and I’m trying to move forward. I feel lost
18:38 nah my therapist just sat they she didn’t say anything she expected me to run the conversation she expected me to run the therapy.
Right on time for some stuff I’ve been struggling with. Thank you so much Kati ❤
Yeah I’m burnt out on life and all of my relationships
Kati do you know what questions you’re answering for the podcast next week? The community post only has 2 questions liked and I’m curious if you’re only answering those two! (Selfishly curious, as I asked a question that week 😅)
Just because you're white educated and professional doesn't mean you should be a "therapist" or a social worker.
And therapy should come with a warning label and an introduction. 🎉
Im so tired of life i don't want to go back to hospital im tired i cant do this any more!!
Im so tired
I just wish not here anymore running out choices no thearpist wont take my medicate
Do you call it "burnout" as a clinical term in the U.S.? In Sweden the casual term is "utbrändhet" ("burnout"), but the clinical, diagnostic term is "Utmattningssyndrom" ("Exhaustion syndrome").
Thank you Kati ❤
My new therapist does specialize in BPD (yes, you were right in that one) along with Trauma and PTSD. She also does EMDR, which she hopes to start after the start of the new year. I am completely worried I will attach to my new therapist and I have to find a way to bring it up with her. It's a real fear that is overtaking me, yet I feel like I will break in two if she rejects me.
I will also try to look into the other therapeutic style you mentioned as well, PARTS and IFS?
I just have a whole space load of stuff going on. I don't feel that anyone should be saddled with me. Right now, I am only able to focus on being here long enough for my girls (my cats).
But I can't tell you how much you answering my add on meant. Thank you for saying you care. It's nice to hear.💙
I'm a psychology student and I was taught that only Sweden and The Netherlands consider 'burnout' an official diagnosis. In other countries, 'burnout' doesn't have a clinical meaning
@annasophia2005 i think that totally needs to change!! Every country needs to recognize it as an official diagnosis because it is killing millions world wide!
@@annasophia2005 Thank you. Interesting to know.
@@daviddanielsson3643 It is! Also makes it really hard to define what burnout symptoms are, because it's such a broad term (I was also taught that burnout and depression have a really big overlap in practice, so it's a debate whether or not burnout warrants an additional diagnostic category)
She wants someone else to take care of her. That is all she is trying to say. She is just sick of doing everything all by herself.
Same tired of doing stuff by myself im not responsible enough
@ I know. It’s unnatural and impossible to sustain indefinitely. Sadly, so many of us are going through it, and it doesn’t look like it will be letting up for many. My heart goes out to you and to all enduring this. Hang in there. You are not as alone as it seems. 💜
When Christ returns to us, he will heal all wounds 😭
The idea of being able to "choose" to see things as possibly getting better seems very privileged. It's totally normal to see things as getting worse and that they will continue to get worse if the circumstances indicate that. If someone is going through financial struggles, medical issues, housing instability etc and there is evidence of continued fall out from these things - the reality is that things will get worse. It's being realistic. And it's not always possible or even logical to try and keep on rose colored glasses, if at all. in fact it's invalidating. Sometimes one can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, cuz sometimes it's literally not there. Sometimes depression won't improve because the circumstances that brought it on don't improve and until they're corrected, it will continue bombarding you.
I'm not liking these themed videos. The variety gives everyone something to watch or listen to. I haven't watched the past 3 videos!
hy my disyety menejer oshallah