2020 Santa Cruz Hightower | Test Ride and Review | Ultimate Dad’s Bike!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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2020 Santa Cruz Hightower:
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*Just an awesome **Latest.Bike** ....well constructed, sturdy, great looking…got me back out on the trails!! Could not be happier!!*
Great review man! Don't care what any of these haters say, I really enjoy your vids so keep doing what you do! I just ordered the 2021 SC Hightower AR build as my first full squish MTB. I'm super stoked and ready to get after these SoCal trails!
Mark, I saw a 2020 Aluminum R build in Desert Tan on Backcountry.com last night, if you don’t want to wait four months for a 2021.
@@pgjudo good lookin out dude but I already ordered the new Ember color from my LBS last month. Should be arriving in a couple weeks 🙏🏽
I was just watching review videos on this bike day dreaming and came across this video. Almost fell out of my chair when you said Diamond Hill. I am from Cumberland. Small small world.
Todd Tucker sure is!
Just went from 26er to this bike.
WOW! was falling a lot on the 26er.Felt unstable and unsure.
Santa Cruz HT is truly amazing.
I cannot screw up on this bike.
Efficient stable climbing and crushes flats and down grades here in New England.
Sure does!
coming from a 2016 CS 5010 I tried out the new HT (CS) and the TB (CS). Both felt great. TB a bit more pop, felt slightly faster. HT felt more planted & forgiving. Both climbed great much better than my old 5010.
WSTP3 Thanks. I’m coming of a gen 1 5010c and am trying to choose between the TB and HT. Great to hear they both climb better, was never the strongest on the 5010.
Your friend on his YT was breaking away often, no jab to you..... It would have been interesting to hear your comparison of riding the YT (more bang for the buck bike) compared to the Hightower.
Derek Petersen my buddy could ride a full rigid and smoke me. He just got the YT and he is loving it, maybe I will do a comparison video.
I have the yt and I can honestly say it’s the best bike and decision I ever made! If JC trails bought a jeffsy instead of the Fezzari he wouldn’t have dumped it like he did the FEzzzzzz lol 😂
JC TRAILS it was great to meet you at NEMBAFEST this year. my son and I ran into you at the Rocky Mountain tent.
Derek Petersen it was great meeting you guys!
I’ve owned a lot of bikes and the YT Jeffsy is a great bike but heavier and small water bottle, the components that you get with the YT masks the YT bike itself everybody looks at components but don’t look at the actual bike and what engineering went behind it, I recently got the Megatower and for how big the bike feels truly pedals well. Great video but in the long run you get what you pay for and I understand direct brands are cheaper but VPP I think is a lot better then Horst-Link super planted better small bump and better feeling IMO
Biggest bummer with the 2020’s is that throughout the model range they all weight at least 3 lbs more than the 2019’s. A 10% weight penalty over an older design is hard to swallow with today’s tech.
I’ll take a little more weight for a more capable bike all day!
The paint on it looks awesome
The blue looks great with custom Santa Cruz graphics!
JC TRAILS yeah
@@jctrails Hi there, how big/wide tire you can put on back of Hightower V2? And with maxxis 2.4 tire on the back how much mud clearance does it has?
Thanks in advance.
bitumen83 29x2.6 or 27.5x2.8 is the max. With a 29x 2.4 their is plenty of width clearance, but it’s tucked in there.
First of all, a compliment for your style of review. I don't know how you comment so lucidly while riding those trails. Impressive! Secondly, great, detailed information to help me make a decision on a new bike. In my 60's and desire stability without losing the fun factor of riding Boise's and other Western/SW trails. Seems perfect for me since one of my main goals is not to crash as I age but want to keep riding.
This bike sounds perfect for your trails. Can’t recommend it enough.
@@jctrails So I've narrowed it down to the Ibis Ripmo V1 and the new Hightower. Any thoughts on that for an old guy wanting to climb well and descend safely but still have fun?
I have last years model. ridding SW (Arizona) trails. crashed hard last week. still can't move my thumb, ribs hurt, and I need a new helmet. So the bike won't do everything for you :)
Obviously I picked a trail i wasn't ready for. But I love the bike. I got it for a good deal because the newer model was just coming out.
@@TeensierPython Sorry about the crash. I haven't had a notable crash in a few years. It sure sucks when it happens. Still riding my hardtail Scott Scale (carbon), which I really like. Just too high centered compared to what you are riding. I'll make a decision soon. Thanks for the input.
That lower link setup is a mud and stone magnet, and it also requires heavier sections in the frame. Also having the bottom bracket hanging outside the frame triangulation in no mans land also requires heavier sections in the frame to make up for its inherent lower strength. You would find it hard to keep up with xc bike on this because of the 30T granny chainring. Going to larger ones will probably have an adverse effect on pedaling efficiency.
Glad to come across this review, it was a fun one to watch! I have a HT rental waiting for a trip at Whistler/Squamish next month, can’t wait!
Great review. Just pulled the trigger on the Hightower in the same S build. Delivery next week and I’m pumped to get out there on it.
I gotta say you should try the size you normally ride, don’t be scared of the long reach! I’m 5’6” and the medium feels amazing
This is Diamond Hill in Cumberland! I really miss this trail. That's a really good bike as well!
I saw a few people asked but no answer so I will ask too. How do you think this compares to your La Sal Peak? BTW they just released 2 new colors. Turqouise and back and black with silver.
Great ride and review. I demo a 2019 stump jumper st that I loved and really considering purchasing!
It’s a great bike buy it.
I got the 2021 alloy stumpjumper! Awesome to get me started before I upgrade to the bronson or hightower in 2022!
Damn those trails look nice, picking up my Hightower tomorrow, niiiiice
I'm 5'5 and weight 145. I currently ride a Specialized Stump Jumper and on a small frame wheel size 27.5. I'm looking to upgrade to a Santa Cruz, mainly for a better fit. I feel small on my bike if that makes sense. Hightower and Tall Boy might be my next bike. The lower link being tight catching rocks and mud is a big negative for me though.
I appreciate your review style. I may order this just by your thumbs up.
Nice video, hearing some great things about that bike. Realized you’re local too! Bike Barn is a great place!
Derek Couture hopefully Bike Barn will have one to demo soon.
Since when does bike barn carry SC? They’ve always been a retailer for Trek and Specialized for the most part.
Ryan Becker1 they have been carrying SC for a long time now.
That’s interesting. The local BB’s to me don’t carry them. Nor on the website. They must run different brands depending on geo. I’m in Houston.
JC TRAILS With that said however, I do have a blue CC X01 build on order to my LBS. I am oh so excited. Hope you liked the bike.
Tallboy vs Hightower. How much difference in the climbing and the playfulness on the trail. Want to know how much I’m giving up for the downhill on the Hightower
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I demoed one as well. Did you get the feeling that the bike seemed to be as responsive (in a good way) as a hardtail? I loved that feeling on the trail.
Mac Hunter-Lyons I also like feeling the trail, but also like being bailed out when I make a mistake. This HT does both really well!
Nice review. After demo'ing a slew of bikes last year, I went with the previous model HT for my first trail bike. I figured that the next model HT would be too long and slack for steep & tight cornering (up and down). And this new HT is quite long/slack for its travel. Did you ride the new HT on any steep switchbacks? If so, how was it?
Norm Swygert I’ve taken it down a couple and it really isn’t that awkward at all. Solid bike
Love to hear a comparison to the 2019 Jeffsy your buddy is riding. Not very many solid reviews on the new YTs.
austin montgomery hopefully soon!
Great review, as always. I’m curious - how does this bike compare to the fezzari la sal peak that you had a while back? I’m looking to get a new bike and would love your input of the comparison of the two. Thank you!
This ^
Thanks for posting the review! Trying to decide between the medium and large. I'm 5'10", 165 lbs, with a 31 inch inseam so was extremely interested to hear you are liking the medium! Did you consider the large at all or was the medium just a better fit in every way for you? Thanks for any insights
Noam Fine go large defo the medium is tiny
I went with medium because I’m mostly riding this bike on my local trails . If I was ripping trails out west or going to the park often I would go with the large. The medium is still comfortable does not feel cramp.
@@jctrails I am also 5'10" / 31" and go size L on most bikes (except my 2017 Primer which is M) and was surprised when I saw you go M. I am riding eastern MA chunk with short rocky climbs up, short rocky rolls down with rooty trails in between - looking a lot like what you're on during your test ride. With bikes still being a bit hard to find, would you recommend M or L?
As one bike I’d still say the Megatower to be honest, just cos it climbs and descends better than the HT 👍🏽
James
Just sold my 2019’ Stumpjumper Expert Carbon and am looking at the Hightower/Tallboy, SB 130, Pivot Trail 429, and Ibis Ripley/Ripmo. I’m in the Hudson Valley of NY (Across the Hudson from HPN)so same kind of trails you ride. Do you think a ST bike like the Ripley , Trail 429, or Tallboy is all I need? My Stumpjumper was the standard 29’er with 150F/140R, and it was a little sluggish in the tight stuff, but not bad. Will the other mid travel (SB130, Hightower, and Ripmo)bikes pedal and handle quicker than the Stumpjumper or am I better off just going Tallboy, Trail 429, or the Ripley route?
It may be the shadows but I couldn’t see the trail once you started going downhill. I may wait for the new Pivot Trail 429
Flex LCS Pivot lots of shadows in those trails. 429 is a sweet ride.
Great review I was up in the air about this and the megatower but the rep I know here told me my riding style fits the mega so pushed the button on that one and I was truly surprised how many miles I can pedal with a big bike if they redo the 5010 I’ll be getting that so I can have the best in both worlds 👍🏼
Rich
I am on the fence between the Abajo Peak and aluminum version of Hightower. Any thoughts between the two? 55 year old ski racer who is getting into biking [grew up racing enduro motorcylces as a kid]. I see you've given both high marks...curious what your thoughts are. If it would make a difference, I am 6' 2", 215...in case one's set up would be better.
James, nice job on video. Sounds like HighTower 2 is firmer climbing and plusher descending than your ST and LT travel Stumpy experiences. Thanks for comparing to MegaTower. How would you compare the HT2 to the Ripmo and/or Ripley?
I can’t waiiiit to get mine!!!! It’s killing me
Great review!
Trail Lady MTB thanks!
Hi, can you say how much ”better” HT 20 is compared to HT 19 with 150mm fork? Thanks for your review.
Night and day. Same with the Bronson.
How did you like this compared to like the new 5010? I know according to sc you can over fork it to 150 and be fine.
Have you tried the 2020 Specialized enduro yet. It would be interesting to see the difference between these two.
hi. what size did you choose and what is your height and standover in cm or ft? whether it was the right choice?
JC, nice to see some RI trail love. Good looking bike. Did you give her a spin around Big River? How'd it handle the rooty, rocky climbs?
Isaiah Smith it has that hover bike feel. It zips up the climbs and eats up the rocks and roots.
Nice bike & review, but not a lot of clearance with the 2.4 dhr2 & if you wanted to use wider rims like 35mm ones that tyre would be getting stuck probably, thanks for the review 👍
Robert Tate the tire would clear but it would not have room for mud and rocks.
JC TRAILS Does the Megatower have more tire clearance than the new HT?
James, Great review! For the same trails you ride, I know you said you prefer this Hightower to the Tallboy. Is there more anti-squat to this bike vs. the Hightower? Sold my 19’ Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29’er because of the out of saddle squat. Waiting to try the new Switchblade too.
Sorry is there more anti-squat to this Hightower VS. the Tallboy?
Not to go off topic but I swear you just flew me to Atlanta this morning (5:40am). Heard what sounded like your voice over the intercom and i looked in the cabin and swore it was you....lol
Haha I’m home today, but keep looking it might be me in the future!
@@jctrails lol.... almost asked too👍🏾
Funny comment about the heat, I used to live on Long Island until 08/2015, now I live in NC and during the summer its mid 90's all the time so took me a while to adjust. sweat just runs off me sometimes. I can tell you the roads here at least in my area have no shoulder so road riding SUCKS but plenty of green and blue trails around for some fun, on vacation next week so heading to Dupont Park for a few days.Any opinion on the Conti Trail King? My 2018 Spectral has Maxxis DHF 2.6 front and Recon in rear, I have a tube in the rear now and just ordered 2 new Trail King with the Apex protection 2.4 for 75.00 shipped so wondering how they will compare to the Maxxis? 2019 Spectral comes with 2.4 so I thought I would give them a shot, I am just an intermediate rider and an in shape 63
Helllooo !!. Hey ...If you can have only one which one would you recommend Tallboy or Hightower ??
I don't need this bike.....I feel this one calling to me. Its overkill for me here in MN. I did a parking lot ride of a Tallboy C. I feel like I must ride one of these after experiencing a tallboy. I wish Covid19 hadn't cancelled everything. I should be demoing bikes! Ever ride an Occam? That's another bike I'm considering. Cool too.
How does it compare to tallboy have you ridden it yet and do you have a review coming out on it
Would love to ride that trail
I’m thinking muddy conditions and that tyre clearance 🤔not for me ;the thick mud I have to ride in would lock that wheel up 🙁
Great review! I'm looking for a great "all rounder" - I'm an older guy riding the west coast trails on Vancouver Island where there's lots of chunk and this will probably be my last bike before going electric. Your comments on the climbing ability were really helpful - I demo'd the Django and loved the way it climbed, the Scott Genius was fantastic but way too pricey. I was leaning Ripmo but I am definitely going to try the new HT out. I rode a 2018 HT demo and didn't care for it, but is sounds like the upgrades will address my complaints. Cheers
Greetings! I’ve seen your reviews of the Stumpjumper ST. Given the choice, would you consider the Hightower, or the Stumpjumper, a better “one quiver”/all-around bike?
Jason Branin stump jumper pedals like garbage. That’s a deal killer for me
I like the high tower, but the whole dad bike thing lol.
Swpa 87 I don’t know why Vital called the old HT a Dad’s bike . I thought it ripped! Well I am a Dad.
Dads shred too
Diamond Hill is amazing! Managed to place third there for the Maxxis ESC and I’m definitely going back next year 😃
Garry FPV nicely done sir!
WOW cool you did a race that nobody cares about and not on discussion!
@@silversurfer3636 Wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?
How did this feel compared to the La Sal Peak?
How does this bike compare to the Hightower LT???? I have the 2018 LT.
Kris J it feels like an updated LT. Pedals better over the rough stuff, climbs better due to the steeper seat tube angle, and you can still hammer descents like you could on the LT.
Need to compare the Hightower to the new Ripmo LT.
Bro I wish you would throw a 27+ on the rear on that megatower. I have the 18 hightower and just got a 5010. But would be like a more travel bike but be able to maintain the 27+ rear and 29 front. Thanks bro
Hightower or Ripmo? What’s better
I hesitate between the Bronson and the Hightower, I want a multi-purpose bike, which climbs rather well but with which I can have fun jumping on local spots on weekends, and can make rather enduro and saggy outings. I think the Bronson is more playful, even if I have never tested, but is it also versatile, for climbing it for example
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The HT and Bronson actually feel quite similar. It comes down to your wheel size preference 27.5 or 29?
@@jctrails ok thank you, I went directly from 26 to 29, I find the 29 top for the high, this feeling of rolling round is really nice, it goes everywhere. But to make me happy and have fun on jumps .. I hesitate
Nice! If it was your choice would you rather have the medium or the large? I’m 5’11” with similar inseam but ordered a large. Not sure if that was a bad call.
Donnie Johnson at 5’11” the large will be great just put a 40mm stem on it.
Thanks for the input! Love the content!
How does that rear shock (super deluxe) compare to the one on your Stumpjumper? I'm not too fond of the shock on my Stumpjumper expert and I'm thinking of adding a bigger token. I'm 6'2" and 220 lbs. Btw, I'm really loving that trail. I wish I could find something like that here in So. California.
Oh man that would be an instant upgrade on the stumpy. I would plush out the bike and allow for a more consistent feel on the downs. Pull up Trail Forks I’m sure you can find some sweet trails in So Cal.
Nice stuff JC, how does the Ripley stack up to the HT?
Joe Alred the Ripley is more XC/Trail bike and the HT is Trail/Enduro bike. The Ripley is a rocket ship on single track.
How does it compare to a Ripmo?
Trying to get a lot better on my hard tail for now but starting to save for my first full sus. Trying to decide between the Hightower, canyon spectral and the regular stump jumper. Any thoughts? Just subbed btw found you channel a while ago but forgot to sub then lol. Great vid!
BA Biking thanks for the sub! The Canyon Spectral sounds like a great entry level full squish bike. You get a lot of bike for your money.
Awesome thanks so much! Now I just gotta save for it. Lol biking isn’t cheap! Haha
@@baileyalford7803 I wouldn't go with a Canyon unless you know how to fix stuff on your own. As a beginner, buying from a bike shop can be really helpful.
I actually just ordered the new ibis Ripmo AF! Super stoked! Thanks for the help tho JC and Ameen.
Nice!
A very nice review.
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Do you find that reviews seem to get tons of views vs regular rides?
NorCal Trail Rides people search for bike reviews, so they do a little better than my other vids.
Yep I figured that!! I have a chance to do one in Park City in 2 weeks. Trying to go with one that does not have 20 reviews already!! I think I have one in mind.
I think I saw some Duxbury in there!!!
Should of went with a medium Mega. 🤗
MTB Savant the medium is still a 🛷.
JT how’s it compare with the Fezzari ???
Ya that's what I want to know!
6”5 what size Hightower? Please
Love your video James, funny I dropped my same review video a few hours after you. What did you think compared to your Mega? Subbed man, RIDE ON...
Travel the Narrow Trail the HT is definitely a more versatile bike. The Mega just wants to go fast DH all the time. Thanks for the sub!
This whole HT = “dads bike” is for the birds... literally anyone that’s not 19 years old 5’8” and 160 lbs and still living at home is a “dad” in the eyes of millenials these days. If the geometry fits, have fun and ignore the haters. I’m 6’1” 185lbs and ride a HT C S 29er just fine. I watched you review the XX01 orange HT way back, and same thing with MTByumyum... no one started talking bad till the 2020 came out with the lower link DPS and 10mil more travel, which in my mind pushes the bike more toward DH... next year I’m sure millenials will have found something new to hate about the 2020
Would love a comparison to Evil Offering!
DaveCharton the Evil Offering is a more poppy bike pedals great but it’s truly a great bike very poppy and lively while the new SC VPP design is I believe built for small bump absorbing big hits better soft planted feeling both are great bikes had the Offering for about a month with Push everything even with the coil it was still poppy but the delta link bolts did come loose sometimes but a little blue loctite fixed that 👍🏼
Great video! I am 6’4 190 lbs...will XL be large enough? I am considering alloy frame and that’s the largest frame available for the Hightower.
I'm also 6'-4" and am going to test ride an XL soon. I think the XL might be a little tight but should work.
@@Montezuma0 did you test ride the XL and did you find it tight?
@@giordanocasini8696 I only rode the XXL but I didn't really ride it much and I wasn't feeling good that day so I couldn't really push it. Overall I would say the XXL makes sense for my height. Didn't feel too big. Takes a little getting used since the wheelbase is pretty long but once you get used to it I think the XXL would fit well.
@@giordanocasini8696 If you're on the fence you could always get the bigger size and put a slightly shorter stem on it to make it fit
What is your Comparison to 5010 as quiver bike ? I feel as though you had a significant issue with climbing (breathing wise) and have noticed that 5010 video in the past had a great downhill session. Hightower probably better on downhills but for overall fun it sounds like 5010 would be better one quiver. What do you think ?
Dylan Otero the HT climbed great. It was 93 degrees and humid that day. I’m also eating way too much ice cream 🍦 this summer. The 5010 is ok on steep technical trails, it’s designed to be a fun bike that you can jump and hop on. The HT can do all that and chew up some chunk.
Stumpjumper vs Hightower. Which one? I have a 2019 Stumpy comp AL 29 (150f/140r) and I’m thinking about changing.
Eric Stenglein Hightower. It pedals better and it has the updated geo.
JC TRAILS thanks for your input. This is the second time you helped me out 👍🏻✊🏻
I would be interested to hear your thoughts about the Hightower compared to the Bronson and pros and cons of each. I’m looking to buy a do all bike and I like the rowdy, poppy and flick ability of the Bronson but all this talk about the Hightower has me interested and I think I should consider it too before I make a purchase.
sdm07120 I have not rode the Bronson yet, but if it handles like the HT it’s gotta be a fun bike. I think it comes down to your wheel size preference. I like the speed and the roll over of the 29er.
sdm07120
I have a gen 2 bronson and it’s the best bike a have ever had.
How’s the warranty though .. ? Stumpy is lifetime, frame and rims
Eaton Pooter lifetime warranty for frame and bearings for the original owner
Holla atcha boy. I'm finna get one.
Buy it!
Hi thanks for the video. Can you tell me how tall you are and how many cm of thickness you use under the stem? What do you mean by dad's bike? Is it a slang? (sorry but my english is not very well) Thanks!!! 😊
Samuele Carpi I’m 178cm tall and the stem is 50mm long. The old Hightower was called a Dads bike so when this new one was released it rides a little more aggressive. Hence not your dads bike.
@@jctrails Thanks for the reply, do you use a size L? How many spacers do you have under the stem? thank you!
Man, I need to try one of these out! I have a 130 travel 29er and a LT 27.5. Don’t really want a LT 29 (rode a Slash). How is it in the air?
Trail Breaker it’s super stable in the air. You could get rid of both those bikes and buy this one 🤔
JC TRAILS Guess I know my next demo😁 Thanks!
Great review ! You have been on markham park , would you take a tallboy or Hightower there?
Thank you
christian lopez Tallboy for sure. Plenty capable to handle the rocks there.
JT , if you had to get just one bike, Hightower or Megatower?
Info datapro Hightower for sure.
@@jctrails and Hightower 2017 not LT vs Megatower?
Info datapro Megatower
Would you still say the 5010 is better all round J ?
Paul Cartwright the HT is definitely better all rounder.
👍🏽👍🏽 thanks J 👍🏽
New Hightower vs the Ripmo or SB130 lunch ride? Torn between the 3. VT trails mostly
Josh Pariseau hmm... I prefer this HT over the 130. The 130 is a little better climber but it’s a handful to ride. If you are riding double blacks all the time then maybe the Ripmo. The HT slides right in between these bikes as the do it all bike.
Thanks. For the input man! Been eyeing this new HT for a month now. Was waiting to see what people thought before dropping the cash down.
JC TRAILS I’m curious about your “handful to ride” comment about the SB130. Could you elaborate? Considering these 2 bikes.
@@jctrails By "handful" do you mean getting the SB130 it to pop, manual and maneuver? I sold my SB150 (although it pedaled well, too much plow and not as easy to manual and pop), so debating the new HT vs SB130. Thanks!
matt dynan I’ve demo’d the 130 and I know what he means. Climbs amazing but it’s a lot of length to wrestle around in tight corners. I had a hard time in anything tight. A lot of pedal strikes on side hill traverses. Never got totally comfortable on it. Screams on fast, straighter descents though.
How tall are you? Did the medium feel right?
John Wren 5’10” and the medium feels really good for general trail riding.
This is a loaded question but I need a 29er bicycle and want to buy this same S build. I have the money but am I going to be sorry paying the 5100 bucks for this bike? I don’t need any other bikes I already have a 27.5 inch cross-country bike, a 27.5 inch trail bike and a 27.5 trail ebike all Giants all aluminum. But want to add this to round out/upgrade my stable with a 29er. I could just get another Giant 29 inch trail bike but for once I would like to have a more premium carbon bicycle. Do you think this bike is going to win me over? I haven’t had a chance to ride one yet. My guess is that I will be satisfied with this purchase.
Geordo1960 oh it’s worth it. The bike is fast in the straights and very capable. Where do you live I can help get you a deal on one.
JC TRAILS I live near Richmond Va, i’ve seen plenty of good deals on the 2019 high tower models but I am pretty firm I want the 2020 model with the new lower link suspension.The exact bike that you were riding in the video.
If you can find a good deal on a 2020 that would be great
By the way I saw your video on your Moab ride, me and a friend are talking about a Moab trip maybe next fall and I want to take this bicycle along like you did. I would much prefer to take my ebike but that is extremely problematic. I’m getting old!
(Ebikes not allowed in much of Moab and no batteries on planes!)
Got me thinking I need to sell the Megatower for the hightower lol
john avila 🤔
Does Bike Barn have these in stock now?
Spit Shine Tommy I think they have a XL and maybe a L, give them a ring.
JC TRAILS cool, thanks
One bike - Tallboy or Hightower?
Creative Dog Media™ if your riding more xc/trail stuff TB. If you’re doing bike park days mixed in with your trail riding - HT
@@jctrails I'm in a very unique situation. I've had a 2020 TB for about 3 weeks but had no idea the new colors were launching and my shop is fine swapping out frame and shock for either the new TB or HT. I ride a lot of road to trail to road, green and blue trails, and hardly any jumps. I'm also 6'3 220. Not every day I get the chance to make a swap like this.
Creative Dog Media™ hmm you being a bigger rider you might enjoy the more robust suspension on the HT. Will you be putting a fox 36 or Lyrik if you got the HT
JC TRAILS I put a 140mm Fox Factory Grip 2 on the TB and would likely go same but in 36 and 160mm although keeping it at 150 may make sense in the HT. Check it out - www.creativedogmedia.com/Tallboy/n-CQCSHv/
I’ll get the aluminum because it cheaper
Hightower or Bronson?
jason pocsatko the real question is, do you prefer 27.5 or 29er?
@@jctrails Depends what day it is. I love both. Which one do you like the most?
XC courses???? Naaaaa please 😂😂😂
Any reply
I’ve put DT Swiss 240.s and carbon rims on mine it’s awesome, I think better brakes would make it better though , maybe Hope may be a good idea
Upgrading to Carbon wheels instead of good brakes is (sorry) stupid.
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Artikel 13 Bot uhhhhh ; why ?
Artikel 13 Bot the shop told me. Arbor wheels and Dt Swiss hubs is a good upgrade? So either you or the bike shop are talking shit
You sold your Giant Trance 2?
Make sure to control your breathing buddy.
I dunno man. I feel like for the northeast where you have lots of elevation anything over 120 feels cumbersome, judging by what I saw I didnt like the climbing characteristics. That said...i wonder when the new tallboy is dropping ...
Ghost0401 Rumor is new TB4 on Aug 20
Luc Wilson we’ll see. Im done with these big gooey bikes that promise efficient pedaling. Ive had more fun on a rigid or tallboy or scalpel over these bigger bikes. And I own several.
Santa Cruz bikes are nice.. but they are overpriced for what you get.. also they are extremely heavy! No, I am not being negative nancy, I owned a 5010 before, they are not what they cost
Why are they overpriced in your opinion?
You get what you pay for with SC. They stand behind their stuff, lifetime frame, lifetime carbon wheels, lifetime bearings...it pays off if you plan to keep it for longer than a year
Quiver............so sick of that term
The new HT is horrible at climbing, worse than the Bronson
I thought it climbed awesome.
JF that’s fine too 👍🏽
JC TRAILS It’s like the Nomad is amazing dh , the 5010 amazing on the trail , the Megatower amazing at both The Tallboy the same , The Hightower and the Bronson __ Not amazing at anything, kinda do it al ok bike if that makes sense , just my opinion. Oh JC you GOTTA TRY DEMO A REVEL BIKE DUDE 🤟🏾🤟🏾They look SO good , try get a demo dude 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽Happy Riding , great reviews 👏👏👏👏👏
Too much BS talking about nothing