I thnik there's often more valuable info coming from looking phenomenologically at some things than diving into deep science about it. Your perspective serves this. It does not mean to discriminate technology or trying to break down things to better understand them, but rather not complicate what's already quite logical or obvious. Certain coaches love to prescribe lots of additional stuff but when you look at it - it serves no purpose. Doesn't push any adaptation in a meaningful way. Simple exposure to max lifting and max speed with running and plyos - all of that spread into years is probably only resonable argument for explaining great athleticisim along with training environment. All the stuff in between is easy to give credit to for improving while the truth is - you get good despite that, not because of that. Thanks for sharing this short videos that really made me think more critically and gave more practical knowledge than some books! Keep up the grea work!
That's interesting how Randy doesn't like Olys but Rolf Ohman does, even tho they both worked together with developing Su Bingtian. Rolf cited that the TPV in hang cleans is pretty darn similar to what you see in the acceleration phase of sprinting.
Randy said he used them with the Chinese and I think American football players, I think he doesn’t see them as a necessity so basically uses them if the athletes want to do them
So “explosive lifts” like hang high pulls are a waste of time bc they don’t make you go as fast as you can or produce as much force as you can? So I should just be focusing on each end of the spectrum-heavy high force output exercises like squats and max speed/explosiveness exercises like sprinting and plyos?
You at all familiar with the Tony Holler “Feed the Cats” approach to track and football conditioning? Always been interesting to me but never knew how to compare with other S&C approaches.
Great rant. The only way ive gotten fast is long rest periods and max velocity sprints. How else is your CNS gonna fire at a super high speed if youve been training at slower speeds the whole time?
Grab a meter stick. Record slow-mo video of jump. Measure start height and end height IRL using meter stick. Looking at the slow-mo video, determine how long it took to reach end height from start of jump using video time. Then do maths: (end height minus start height) divided by time = velocity. If you want to find peak velocity, do the same math but for a short segment of the jump where you can see that you are moving the fastest up in the air. You will need to know the distance travelled in that segment though. I recommend putting the meter stick next to you when you jump and have it visible in the slow-mo.
I think your idea of seperating force and speed from each other doesn't make sense for sprinting. Obviously the SAID principle works for the force velocity curve. We get what we train for with little overlap. But if you are against training in the 'high power zone' it would be even more unlogical to go further up and train the force zone. There are many arguments for one or the other. I believe that those high power exercises (loaded jumps, Keiser... not so much OLY lifts) have good carry over for the sprint start (0-10m). I believe the higher the power output of a certain exercise, the more fast twich MUs are used. It's a big myth that high load (heavy) exercises target more fast twich fibres. Indeed it's the opposite!
A true maximal effort lift will recruit the largest motor units. The largest motor units are primarily made up of fast twitch muscle fibres that generate the highest forces. This is basic premise in physiology and sports performance
Explain how it’s dumb lol. I’ve been an athlete since I was 12 and am clinging onto dear life to keep playing Rugby at a semi- high level. I’ve done EVERY type of “sports performance” type training you can think of. Not one of them has “enhanced” shit for me. Just like Will preaches it’s - lift heavy - run fast - jump high - play THE SPORT ITSELF Reap the benefits.
For the lack of being able to put it eloquently, this man just does not miss.
Reject "fast lifting", embrace fast things.
I thnik there's often more valuable info coming from looking phenomenologically at some things than diving into deep science about it. Your perspective serves this.
It does not mean to discriminate technology or trying to break down things to better understand them, but rather not complicate what's already quite logical or obvious.
Certain coaches love to prescribe lots of additional stuff but when you look at it - it serves no purpose. Doesn't push any adaptation in a meaningful way. Simple exposure to max lifting and max speed with running and plyos - all of that spread into years is probably only resonable argument for explaining great athleticisim along with training environment.
All the stuff in between is easy to give credit to for improving while the truth is - you get good despite that, not because of that.
Thanks for sharing this short videos that really made me think more critically and gave more practical knowledge than some books!
Keep up the grea work!
So if you want to move faster, try to move faster?
Well said dude
That's interesting how Randy doesn't like Olys but Rolf Ohman does, even tho they both worked together with developing Su Bingtian. Rolf cited that the TPV in hang cleans is pretty darn similar to what you see in the acceleration phase of sprinting.
Randy said he used them with the Chinese and I think American football players, I think he doesn’t see them as a necessity so basically uses them if the athletes want to do them
If you want to run at higher velocity then train to move faster. If you want to produce more force then train to move heavier objects
Do you think good mornings could be very beneficial for a novice lifter? Especially one who has been stalling on squats and deadlifts.
yes i do
So “explosive lifts” like hang high pulls are a waste of time bc they don’t make you go as fast as you can or produce as much force as you can? So I should just be focusing on each end of the spectrum-heavy high force output exercises like squats and max speed/explosiveness exercises like sprinting and plyos?
You at all familiar with the Tony Holler “Feed the Cats” approach to track and football conditioning? Always been interesting to me but never knew how to compare with other S&C approaches.
I’m familiar with it but don’t know everything about it. He has some long form presentations on UA-cam.
Nice hoodie
Great rant. The only way ive gotten fast is long rest periods and max velocity sprints. How else is your CNS gonna fire at a super high speed if youve been training at slower speeds the whole time?
Can you tell me how to determine the velocity of a jump without force plates?
Grab a meter stick.
Record slow-mo video of jump.
Measure start height and end height IRL using meter stick.
Looking at the slow-mo video, determine how long it took to reach end height from start of jump using video time.
Then do maths: (end height minus start height) divided by time = velocity.
If you want to find peak velocity, do the same math but for a short segment of the jump where you can see that you are moving the fastest up in the air. You will need to know the distance travelled in that segment though. I recommend putting the meter stick next to you when you jump and have it visible in the slow-mo.
What about challenging the velocity aspect even further by reducing your bodyweight with bands?
This is a great method
..... And that's the other bloke schooled.
Bob 🇬🇧
Why did this guy put F = ma after acceleration, and P = \frac{W}{\Delta t} after velocity lol
I think your idea of seperating force and speed from each other doesn't make sense for sprinting.
Obviously the SAID principle works for the force velocity curve. We get what we train for with little overlap.
But if you are against training in the 'high power zone' it would be even more unlogical to go further up and train the force zone.
There are many arguments for one or the other. I believe that those high power exercises (loaded jumps, Keiser... not so much OLY lifts) have good carry over for the sprint start (0-10m).
I believe the higher the power output of a certain exercise, the more fast twich MUs are used. It's a big myth that high load (heavy) exercises target more fast twich fibres. Indeed it's the opposite!
No
A true maximal effort lift will recruit the largest motor units. The largest motor units are primarily made up of fast twitch muscle fibres that generate the highest forces. This is basic premise in physiology and sports performance
Woke
This is dumb! Its just a guy trying to be different in a saturated world
Explain how it’s dumb lol.
I’ve been an athlete since I was 12 and am clinging onto dear life to keep playing Rugby at a semi- high level.
I’ve done EVERY type of “sports performance” type training you can think of. Not one of them has “enhanced” shit for me.
Just like Will preaches it’s
- lift heavy
- run fast
- jump high
- play THE SPORT ITSELF
Reap the benefits.