Hey Donnie, Rough Rider actually have a Bowie called the Black Mule and it's next to nothing for you guys to buy in the States. It's a game changer for cheap Bowie's. True full tang with an overmold handle. Very like another Bowie you like and own😁
Rough Rider's fixed blade quality has always been hit or miss which is odd cause their folders are usually at least solid. If you haven't already, give a peek to their Black Mule Bowie. For about $25 or so, but they did it right.
It's sad to know that some of these nice but cheap blades are made more for decoration then for practical use. You have taught us a very important lesson today my brother, keep it up and turn that broken thing into a badass design of a knife!!
Every fixed blade I own regardless of price is full tang and you have just showed off the reason, and I do have some cheap plus some good. Check out Chipaway Cutlery or United Cutlery their Bushmaster series.
Wow! Honestly I didn’t think It was going to break right there. Lol. Well looking knife but like you said, display only lol. Thanks DBAD and happy thanksgiving to you too
I know a lot of people like stacked leather handles. The problem is, you never know what's going on inside that handle to the end cap. Frankly, I'm surprised the Rough Ryder hidden tang was a big as it was. I susoect if the knife was made out of carbon steel, it wouldnt have had a problem. All that said, I'll take a full tang knife over stacked keather always. It may be less comfortable, but you know it'll be strong, depending on the steel type.
I test like you test and I freely admit you greatly influenced my testing style. Not the street sign or busting cinder blocks. But like you I want people to know what the hell they bought
That's why I promote you so willingly. You're worth the subs. I did smash a few bricks with some blades in these vids, but have yet to stab a street sign! haha
Had a feeling that was going to happen. Broke a very similar stainless bowie when I was young. Learned quickly to be suspicious of anything that big being made of it ever since. I don't do rat tails hardly at all except maybe a ka-bar here or there.
Check out the Rough Rider 1643 Coffin handled bowie. It has micarta scales and is full tang. I love mine and it costs about the same as the one you are showing in the video.
It's the combat Bowie with iwo jima on it bc the original design is the V44 used during ww2 by Marines as a Cross between a machete for terrain and a kabar for combat.
I have a Rough Rider USMC Bowie RR749, which is pretty much the same as your RR1718 (except it has a USMC marked leather sheath.) I bought it at a swap meet for $35, and was thrilled to get it. It sits in a place of honor with some other USMC knives (mostly Ka-Bars.) There is no reason these couldn't have been made super strong even with the hidden tang, as the prototype (called the Union Cutlery 1219C2) was required to have 1/3 of the knife imbedded into a tree and a full grown man would stand on it without causing damage. Many many a Marine or Soldier would throw them and they were known for their toughness. But alas these Rough Riders were built for show, one day I'd love to build one that is as durable as the Ka-Bar fighting utility knife, or maybe even a tad stronger. It would have a market already in place...
Sheath looks like Turd-le Mans thunder Bowie 👍🏻🇦🇺 this Bowie would be bloody awesome if it was made out of better materials because it’s a nice looking knife 🔪
Ya your kabar would have cut right threw that and it's a rat Tang Western Bowie what I like and have that was a good video you did back in the day. From Glenn CATT.
The only Rough Rider i buy is the pocket knives for food prep. And China only of course, the Pakistan knives are all together crap! 😬 Thanks for testing this!
I don’t understand why people insist on judging a knife based on batoning. It’s ignorant. That isn’t what a knife is for, and even full tangs can break doing this. This knife would have never broken if used for it’s intended purpose (you know, cutting). There is nothing wrong with stick tangs either. Swords and knives were made like this for thousands of years, and they functioned just fine. Probably also had something to do with people using their tools properly.Fresh bone is easier to cut through than knotted wood. Anyone worth their salt that goes into the wilderness is going to at least have a hatchet, or an axe on them for wood. Maybe even a saw or a machete. Yet even those will still break if used incorrectly. We going to shit on guns next, because they suck at processing wild game?
Correction; GOOD stick tangs work. A garbage heat treat or poor tempering will leave you with a snapped or bent tang any day of the week. Also, batoning is a form of cutting. If I swing a blade with all my might to chop a piece of wood, it can damage the knife at a greater probability than by batoning. When you baton, the angle is set and consistent, unlike a wild swing. Who do you think invented the technique? Survivalists have been doing it for thousands of years. Reduce the chance of edge chipping and dullung.
The location of the failure looks like powdered steel you say. That sound like an improper heat treatment. A coarse grain structure. Actually sad as the tang has enough material to be strong if treated properly.
@@DonnieBAllDay so actually that may have caused a stress crack. If treated properly the blade might have held up. I forge knives from Old files and rasps that can stand loads of abuse. Normalizing the steel will help also, heating up to orange and letting it cool of 3 times. Differential heat treating and keeping the spine of the knife at a blue colour will also make a very strong blade. Like your channel btw. 👍
Have you checked out the new RR Bowie Vaquero Mexican? I just got mine yesterday and it is an awesome design, in spite of it being made in Pakistan. I think it might be right up your alley, perhaps a better fighter than a chopper.
The original Bowie was an all purpose blade. A defense blade first and foremost, but an important tool while on the trail. On horseback you don't bring everything with you. A camp roll, firearm, metal cup or pot, a flint and a knife. That knife was for fighting, firewood, hunting, fire starting and food prep.
I have what I suspect is a Rough Rider USMC Bowie and probably exactly the same tang as this one, but it stays in the living room on a plaque and probably will never see any use, but go through life as a revered Ka-Bar style Bowie knife! I have a Warivo made 18" Crocodile Dundee style knife however with a hidden tang (like the original) and if it breaks I'll do something rash, like pay a knife-maker to repair it and try to improve on it... and of course bitch til the toasty shores of hell frost over!!!
Depends on the knife really. But if you want a great combination of both, look up the dbad OEF Defender. It's at www.thekhukurihouse.com and I did a video on it that you can actually see when you pull up the knife.
@@DonnieBAllDay thank you! will surely check it out. Had a ka bar kukri on my shopping list but bought an Estwing carpenters hatchet for my tool set instead.
This is the knife that you use to carve up the Thanksgiving bird after you burn it accidentally because I guarantee you nobody is going to complain while you have that knife in your hand.
Great video brother the knife looks nice but it’s not a dbad knife by far , by the way the he game of thrones throne is made of swords melted together !
Oh my God that sheath is so loose it's like my girlfriend kicking a hot dog down a hall way what the Fuck maybe it's just me . Happy Thanksgiving hope you got a laugh . Good video nice job. From Glenn CATT.
@@DonnieBAllDay Well stainless steels aren't really designed for impact toughness, when you go over 14% Cr even the best stainless is dangerous to baton with.
@@DonnieBAllDay Not when it comes to limitations in different grades of steels. This is why you would never find engineers using stainless steel to make vehicle leaf springs, and why jack hammer heads and crow bars are never made out of stainless steel. It's not safe and wouldnt pass safety regulations because Cr makes steel brittle and prone to fracture under impact and stress.
@@DonnieBAllDay If you want to look at it in more simple terms, ask yourself why aren't any functional swords made out of stainless steel, because when stainless steel (With high enough level of martensite to hold an edge) is made into a long thin object it is not safe to use with high impact hard use. The heat treat on S35VN can be the best in the world done by crucible themselves. But if you make a sword out of S35VN it's going to shatter.
'I'm gonna finish this piece of wood, no matter what the knife says' classic DBAD !
Haha! I'm the boss!!
Hey Donnie, Rough Rider actually have a Bowie called the Black Mule and it's next to nothing for you guys to buy in the States. It's a game changer for cheap Bowie's. True full tang with an overmold handle. Very like another Bowie you like and own😁
I think I saw that one
Great review!! And test.. Life and death situation we need to. Know these things🍻
Thanks bro
Rough Rider's fixed blade quality has always been hit or miss which is odd cause their folders are usually at least solid. If you haven't already, give a peek to their Black Mule Bowie. For about $25 or so, but they did it right.
I know it well. Their full tang stuff has been impressive
It's sad to know that some of these nice but cheap blades are made more for decoration then for practical use. You have taught us a very important lesson today my brother, keep it up and turn that broken thing into a badass design of a knife!!
You know I will
You do make me laugh mate, great video. Made my day, cheers!
Thats the best thing
Every fixed blade I own regardless of price is full tang and you have just showed off the reason, and I do have some cheap plus some good. Check out Chipaway Cutlery or United Cutlery their Bushmaster series.
I have some from each
Wow! Honestly I didn’t think It was going to break right there. Lol. Well looking knife but like you said, display only lol. Thanks DBAD and happy thanksgiving to you too
Ya never know! haha
Thanks for the review. You saved me some money. Appreciate it.
Better places to put your money
I know a lot of people like stacked leather handles. The problem is, you never know what's going on inside that handle to the end cap. Frankly, I'm surprised the Rough Ryder hidden tang was a big as it was. I susoect if the knife was made out of carbon steel, it wouldnt have had a problem. All that said, I'll take a full tang knife over stacked keather always. It may be less comfortable, but you know it'll be strong, depending on the steel type.
I agree. When you can't see, you cant know
I test like you test and I freely admit you greatly influenced my testing style. Not the street sign or busting cinder blocks. But like you I want people to know what the hell they bought
That's why I promote you so willingly. You're worth the subs. I did smash a few bricks with some blades in these vids, but have yet to stab a street sign! haha
Had a feeling that was going to happen. Broke a very similar stainless bowie when I was young. Learned quickly to be suspicious of anything that big being made of it ever since. I don't do rat tails hardly at all except maybe a ka-bar here or there.
I'm with you
Check out the Rough Rider 1643 Coffin handled bowie. It has micarta scales and is full tang. I love mine and it costs about the same as the one you are showing in the video.
i'll check it out
It's the combat Bowie with iwo jima on it bc the original design is the V44 used during ww2 by Marines as a Cross between a machete for terrain and a kabar for combat.
This one is just horrible
I have a Rough Rider USMC Bowie RR749, which is pretty much the same as your RR1718 (except it has a USMC marked leather sheath.) I bought it at a swap meet for $35, and was thrilled to get it. It sits in a place of honor with some other USMC knives (mostly Ka-Bars.) There is no reason these couldn't have been made super strong even with the hidden tang, as the prototype (called the Union Cutlery 1219C2) was required to have 1/3 of the knife imbedded into a tree and a full grown man would stand on it without causing damage. Many many a Marine or Soldier would throw them and they were known for their toughness. But alas these Rough Riders were built for show, one day I'd love to build one that is as durable as the Ka-Bar fighting utility knife, or maybe even a tad stronger. It would have a market already in place...
I made one. It's the dbad War Machine. Even the guy who killed Bin Laden carries one.
That indoor Bowie comment had me cracking up! Happy Thanksgiving Bro.
Haha! Oh I'm a real wordsmith. Haha
Happy Thanksgiving Donnie!!! I hope you had a good time and a great meal.....but you dont have anything to carve your turkey with!ll. lol 😆 🦃🍗🇺🇸💙⚔
I just grab it by the feet and eat it raw!... Wait.... That means two things! haha
Sheath looks like Turd-le Mans thunder Bowie 👍🏻🇦🇺 this Bowie would be bloody awesome if it was made out of better materials because it’s a nice looking knife 🔪
100%!
Ya your kabar would have cut right threw that and it's a rat Tang Western Bowie what I like and have that was a good video you did back in the day. From Glenn CATT.
Oh no doubt. The dbad War Machine would scare it in half
They can’t all be winners 😆 also Happy Thanksgiving 🦃🍽🍁
You got that right
DBad - you have a winner - on the "hall of shame " 😆
Yes, this is a bow your head and walk away knife
I hope you had a great Thanksgiving! Peace, Stiletto :-)
Thanks bro, you as well
The only Rough Rider i buy is the pocket knives for food prep.
And China only of course, the Pakistan knives are all together crap! 😬 Thanks for testing this!
absolutely
Thumbs Up All Day!
Tahnks bro
Happy Thanksgiving my brother!!!
Same to you and Megatron
Fine Chinese craftsmanship always shows !
I have some real bangers from China, but this wasn't one of them
Good to see that you really test these budget friendly knives.
I can't know without knowing. Haha
they budget friendly until you try to sharpen them or use them then you realize you just flushed 40 bucks. happy Thanksgiving!!!
@@marcrhodes3382 Hell no. I lost a bowie but gained a field knife that will give me an extra video
The tang wasn't bad design imo it was the steel and heat treat fail . I've seen other old knives made like that but pinned pomel that were fine .
The tang is far to thin for a blade that size
@@DonnieBAllDay ya to thin for a military knife
DONNIE B!HAPPY THANKSGIVING BUD!
You too bro
Happy Thanksgiving, 🎊🎉
I have a, couple of RR's but they're only small folders, 😎👍👍
Most likely better quality
I don’t understand why people insist on judging a knife based on batoning. It’s ignorant. That isn’t what a knife is for, and even full tangs can break doing this. This knife would have never broken if used for it’s intended purpose (you know, cutting). There is nothing wrong with stick tangs either. Swords and knives were made like this for thousands of years, and they functioned just fine. Probably also had something to do with people using their tools properly.Fresh bone is easier to cut through than knotted wood. Anyone worth their salt that goes into the wilderness is going to at least have a hatchet, or an axe on them for wood. Maybe even a saw or a machete. Yet even those will still break if used incorrectly. We going to shit on guns next, because they suck at processing wild game?
Correction; GOOD stick tangs work. A garbage heat treat or poor tempering will leave you with a snapped or bent tang any day of the week. Also, batoning is a form of cutting. If I swing a blade with all my might to chop a piece of wood, it can damage the knife at a greater probability than by batoning. When you baton, the angle is set and consistent, unlike a wild swing. Who do you think invented the technique? Survivalists have been doing it for thousands of years. Reduce the chance of edge chipping and dullung.
Happy thanksgiving 🦃 brother I know you will turn a failure into a success .
oh absolutely!
The location of the failure looks like powdered steel you say. That sound like an improper heat treatment. A coarse grain structure. Actually sad as the tang has enough material to be strong if treated properly.
The edge held up which makes me believe they heat treat the blade, but not the tang
@@DonnieBAllDay so actually that may have caused a stress crack. If treated properly the blade might have held up. I forge knives from Old files and rasps that can stand loads of abuse. Normalizing the steel will help also, heating up to orange and letting it cool of 3 times. Differential heat treating and keeping the spine of the knife at a blue colour will also make a very strong blade. Like your channel btw. 👍
Have you checked out the new RR Bowie Vaquero Mexican? I just got mine yesterday and it is an awesome design, in spite of it being made in Pakistan. I think it might be right up your alley, perhaps a better fighter than a chopper.
I'll check it out
Oh that tang is no bueno
@@DonnieBAllDay I know, but the lines of the knife re amazing and it feels awesome in hand. I just had to have it for the collection!
The DBad Preacher ? I think that would cut through that thin branch with just a light swing ...😊
The dbad Preacher gets close to branches and they cut themselves
There’s a lot of review channels but I always come to DBAD if I wanna see some actual realistic testing and good feedback.
I come back here too. Haha
@@DonnieBAllDay 🤣
Bowie knives are fighting knives. Made to stab soft flesh, Not hard stuff.
The original Bowie was an all purpose blade. A defense blade first and foremost, but an important tool while on the trail. On horseback you don't bring everything with you. A camp roll, firearm, metal cup or pot, a flint and a knife. That knife was for fighting, firewood, hunting, fire starting and food prep.
Happy thanksgiving, turkey!!
Sleepy now. Haha
#BIB4LIFE
Or at least until death?
@@DonnieBAllDay a matter of perspective i suppose. If I go first im showing up in yalls videos
@@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors Haha! Sic 'em!
I wonder how the united cutlery USMC Leatherneck Bowie would compare to this bowie seeing as they look very similair....
About the same
Happy tday don .wow junk . The only rough rider I had was a pocket knife
The pocket knives are better than this stuff
Ya, thats a piece of something! LOL, happy thanksgiving!!!
Came from the back of the turkey
I have what I suspect is a Rough Rider USMC Bowie and probably exactly the same tang as this one, but it stays in the living room on a plaque and probably will never see any use, but go through life as a revered Ka-Bar style Bowie knife! I have a Warivo made 18" Crocodile Dundee style knife however with a hidden tang (like the original) and if it breaks I'll do something rash, like pay a knife-maker to repair it and try to improve on it... and of course bitch til the toasty shores of hell frost over!!!
Sometimes, they're just keepers
Happy Thanksgiving
You as well
#22aday
Down to zero!!
Happy Thanksgiving. Nice video. Is there an easy way of telling if a blade is injection molded?
An easy way? Not that I know of
Some are made for Chopping and the rest are made for Hanging on the wall.
I'm a Timber Rattler fan.
Outlaw Bowie
They can take a Beating
Some absolutely can
what is best for home defense? a good kukri or a good bowie? living on a country with no guns
Depends on the knife really. But if you want a great combination of both, look up the dbad OEF Defender. It's at www.thekhukurihouse.com and I did a video on it that you can actually see when you pull up the knife.
@@DonnieBAllDay thank you! will surely check it out. Had a ka bar kukri on my shopping list but bought an Estwing carpenters hatchet for my tool set instead.
This is the knife that you use to carve up the Thanksgiving bird after you burn it accidentally because I guarantee you nobody is going to complain while you have that knife in your hand.
If it was a better knife, the bird would cook itself
Great video brother the knife looks nice but it’s not a dbad knife by far , by the way the he game of thrones throne is made of swords melted together !
I had a feeling they'd have one. I guessed. Haha
Oh my God that sheath is so loose it's like my girlfriend kicking a hot dog down a hall way what the Fuck maybe it's just me . Happy Thanksgiving hope you got a laugh . Good video nice job. From Glenn CATT.
Not exactly a worthy buy. Haha
The guards still good. Save that. Everything else is junk! Lol
I kept all the parts to play with
15:52 'One more time...'
Last time
Hi Donnie, have you reviewed the Svord Von Tempsky yet? I just got one, and it's a monster!
Not yet. The handle keeps me on the fence
@@DonnieBAllDay It seems comfortable, but I haven't hacked anything up yet :-)
The RR turns into your 🔪 kit project😬
Popsicle tang
@@bruceswearingen7718 again! Haha
Shows these in field tests are for Reals..either they stand up, or explode if under engineered !!
That's the problem with using stainless steels for combat and hard use long blades, they snap, too much Chromium.
I don't have a problem with stainless as long as it's good.
@@DonnieBAllDay Well stainless steels aren't really designed for impact toughness, when you go over 14% Cr even the best stainless is dangerous to baton with.
@@londiniumarmoury7037 it really all comes down to the heat treat
@@DonnieBAllDay Not when it comes to limitations in different grades of steels. This is why you would never find engineers using stainless steel to make vehicle leaf springs, and why jack hammer heads and crow bars are never made out of stainless steel. It's not safe and wouldnt pass safety regulations because Cr makes steel brittle and prone to fracture under impact and stress.
@@DonnieBAllDay If you want to look at it in more simple terms, ask yourself why aren't any functional swords made out of stainless steel, because when stainless steel (With high enough level of martensite to hold an edge) is made into a long thin object it is not safe to use with high impact hard use. The heat treat on S35VN can be the best in the world done by crucible themselves. But if you make a sword out of S35VN it's going to shatter.
Don't go rough on a Rough Rider, got it. More like wall hangers..
They have a few good ones and theeeeennnn....
Brother why not grind the blade down into a boot knife . Maybe a throwing knive
I have some options
@@DonnieBAllDay Cool only just suggestions and ideas
@@DonnieBAllDay If possible make it into a full tang knife
@@jamesshackelford4622 I don't usually do it differently.
@@DonnieBAllDay Thats ok . Only ideas and suggested. Just saying things that you talk about that makes a knive stronger and better
that knife is el guapo
Would you say its a plethora of el guapo?
@@DonnieBAllDay yes a full plethora without a doubt
I wouldn't consider that a failure though.....
It makes for some good video! Haha
Rough Rider is churning out some real garage 🗑
Their stuff goes from pretty decent to absolute shit
Wallhanger
Yup
Ahh...11:48 Thanx 🗡
you're welcome
16:20 like it's nothing lol
Almost expected
If you want Rough Rider, stick with their pocket knives. It seems to be where their experience lies.
I'm with you
IF you shave with a bowie knife, you must be DBAD!
Wear yer eye-protection glasses when hacking around! Seriously dude...
But if I take one in the eye, the video will go viral! haha
combat bowie not camp bowie !! or outdoor .....................
barely indoor. Haha!
Per me il coltello e' ok
I can't be a fan of it
@@DonnieBAllDay Per tagliare i tronchi si usa l' ascia 👍
wont break on a human js
not likely. But one bad angle and one good block hitting the knife sideways on a forearm could break it in half
@@DonnieBAllDay xD why done it lol jk
Erster.:-)
I know what the smile says but you got me with Erster