Shanling M0 Pro Digital Audio Player and DAC, Updated Review!

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @akshaysharma2786
    @akshaysharma2786 11 місяців тому +3

    There are so many videos which UA-cam pushes on this topic yet there is only you who actually cared to share the full potential of this device I bought it after I heard your review,
    Earlier I was going to buy a Ap80 but it was too costly
    and I cudnt afford the IEMS along with that
    this fits my budget and also gives me evrything under the sun
    This is the best review period. ❤

  • @randalqueen5653
    @randalqueen5653 Рік тому +8

    Thanks for this. :) Exactly what I needed to know before purchase. Really cool how one can tell you really love your music.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      I am certainly enjoying it…I listen several hours each day!

  • @d.nakamura9579
    @d.nakamura9579 Рік тому +4

    Nice review. It helped me decide to pick one of these up, and I’m glad I did! The M0 pro is a perfect iPod nano replacement for workouts at the gym. It’s just as lightweight, sounds better when playing .flac files (vs .mp3 on the 15gb nano), and it can hold a lot of music on 256gb micro SD card. Menus are surprisingly responsive and easy to use given the small screen size. Excellent unit so far, especially for the price.

  • @matthewdavies2057
    @matthewdavies2057 Рік тому +2

    I agree the sound quality is very good. A nice slightly warm, fun Harmon curve. By no means cold or analytic. But it's not perfect yet. Mine came with Firmware v1.2. That's the first version. There are a few minor bugs they need to work out in v1.5 before I say it's perfect. One example, my M0 Pro clicks between songs. All songs. A minor click but you can't miss it.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +2

      Do you have “gapless play” on? I don’t get a click but I am hoping they will add scrolling artist and album names so I can distinguish between similarly named artist and.albums…and the ability to add a whole album to a playlist…oh…and fix the link to the app in iOS. :) Nothing is perfect!

  • @noncompulsoryl
    @noncompulsoryl Рік тому

    Thank you for this informative look. I think they stated that single ended playback is about 14 hours, balanced was supposed to be around 10 hours. 7 is on the short side for me, so I'll probably wait for a device around this form factor with slightly better battery life. Still a wonderful little player.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      Like I said in the video. I have a small battery pack that I expect to get more than 20 hours out of…luckily you can use the M0 Pro while it is charging. :)

  • @blacklisted4885
    @blacklisted4885 Рік тому +2

    I was just looking at this on aliexpress, great review. I'm looking for a similar device that can stream but my God they're so expensive. I make do with a spare smartphone as my 'jukebox' right now but I wouldn't mind something a bit more purpose built for music

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +3

      That was my feeling too. There are a few streaming DAPs in the $400 range, but you are right…way expensive!

  • @adamcanterbury
    @adamcanterbury Рік тому

    New fan here… Batt life is probably due to balanced use…which is normal for all daps and amps that have that function…great review Thank You

  • @ondersar1
    @ondersar1 9 місяців тому

    Thx for detailed review.

  • @1st_Nook
    @1st_Nook Рік тому +1

    Nice Review ❤

  • @RazziPermana
    @RazziPermana Рік тому

    Nice to-the-point but also very informative review, one thing I want to ask though (since there aren't many reviews of this product) can you skip/previous track with the physical volume button? You mentioned that you can play/pause with it so I thought you could also control the music playback with it. I never used a wheel volume button, my Fiio M3 Pro is the best for blind music playback but looking for an upgrade that has bluetooth feature, so yeah I'm very interested on this Shanling M0 Pro.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +2

      You can program the double click for Play/pause, next, or previous, and you can program triple click for any of the same three. So yes, you can program one for play/pause and one for next. The triple click is hard to get just right. Takes practice. :)

    • @RazziPermana
      @RazziPermana Рік тому +1

      @@StephenIngraham that is very good to know, Thank you sirr!

  • @StephenIngraham
    @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

    As I use this more, and put more music on it…I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the fact that the names of the albums are cut off, often short enough so you can not distinguish between similar albums…Brooklyn Sessions 1, 2, 3…11…they all have the same name on the M0 Pro. The song titles scroll so you can see the whole title. The Album and artist names need to do the same thing. :)

    • @unforsaken552
      @unforsaken552 Рік тому

      what would be a great upgrade to this DAP?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      @@unforsaken552 Not sure I understand? Are you thinking of how Shanling could make this better? Or are you wanting to replace the M0 Pro with a “better” DAP? Shanling could refine the OS a bit…make album titles and artist names easier to read by scrolling them sideways as they do the song titles. They could streamline the “update music” routine so it takes less time each time you add songs to your card. They could fix the iOS version of the associated app. They could add the ability to add albums to playlists, not just single songs. They could make the equalizer available when using the DAP as a DAC. They could improve battery life. If you are looking for an upgrade to the whole M0 Pro experience, you could do worse than to look at the Shanling M3 Ultra, which has a bigger, easier to work with, screen, and does streaming. The Hiby player in the same price range has maybe better OS, but only has 2.5 balanced…no 4.4. Either would be an “upgrade”…but I an not convinced either would sound any better :)

    • @unforsaken552
      @unforsaken552 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham thanks! Might as well stick with it for now.. I have the same combo as yours.. What ear tips do you use with your s12 Pro?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      @@unforsaken552 The large stock Letshuoer wide-bore (white) silicone. I have a theory that you get the best sound overall, bass to treble, when you find the tips that seal and trap just the right volume of air between the nozzle and your eardrum…a length of air that works with diameter of your ear canal to produce a “resonant body”…an air column that vibrates correctly and cleanly to transmit all the harmonics of the music. I tried all the included tips and some expensive spinfits that I have and some comfort foam and keep coming back to the stock silicone.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      By the way…if you get a chance to try the new Letshuoer x Gizaudio Galileo’s you should. I like them even better than my S12 Pros. :)

  • @unforsaken552
    @unforsaken552 Рік тому +1

    Do you think it's an upgrade going from this dap to the Sony NW-A306?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      I have no experience of the Sony so I can not really say…I think the Sony has a totally different operating system though and more features. ???

  • @jiristepan5225
    @jiristepan5225 Рік тому

    My Shanling M0 Pro freezes. Switching on usually succeeds on the 3rd or 4th attempt. Exceptionally for the 1st attempt. I tried waiting, but after 15 minutes I gave up. I have tried various advice and recommendations. Unfortunately, it looks like a defective piece. I am dealing with it in the complaint procedure.
    When I can turn the player on, the sound is great! I believe that we will solve the complaint with the seller and I will enjoy great sound!
    P.S: Has the player frozen for anyone?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      I am sure someone has already suggested this but it could also be a defective sd card.

    • @jiristepan5225
      @jiristepan5225 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham The card is formatted. Freezing occurs with or without a card. Unfortunately it was the same even before formatting.
      The first day of using the M0 Pro was excellent. The SD wasn't even formatted. Another two days after that, this big problem started.
      When the player works, it's really great, but it has to work :)))
      He also tried factory reset according to the seller's instructions. The software in the device is said to be up-to-date.
      I replaced the memory card. It did not help.
      In short, the device should work after being turned on. Not that it freezes.
      It is very unfortunate. I'm disappointed with that.
      I believe the seller will fix the problem and unfortunately it was a bad device that I was lucky to have.
      Thank you for your response :)

    • @akshaysharma2786
      @akshaysharma2786 11 місяців тому

      ​@@jiristepan5225 Don't they replace the product if in warranty
      I am waiting for mine in mail. But even used I bought one which has some warranty left quite a lot a 6 to7 months.
      Look I am just trying to enter this new hobby.
      If it works great otherwise I ll just save up and buy any better or just a Dac and yeah one can't forget to cry in the corner under the pillow. 😢😢 😂😂😂. If it dies or gets stuck.

  • @АртёмСмык-л7я
    @АртёмСмык-л7я 5 місяців тому

    My question: if I use regular headphones 3.5mm jack via connector 4.4 mm connected to original balance cable add on. Will I get higher output power?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  5 місяців тому

      How would you do that? Use a 3.5 to 4.4 converter? Do they make those? But yes, I think you would get some extra power.

  • @chicharongbulaklak2805
    @chicharongbulaklak2805 Рік тому

    Can you make a playlist on the device itself?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      You can but it is awkward. You can only add one song at a time…not a whole album or a set of songs from an album. The M1s allow adding multiple songs at the same time. :)

  • @tamasvaro7923
    @tamasvaro7923 Рік тому

    Did they add an "on the device playlist" or do we still have to create .sfv files on the computer?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      You can create playlists on the MoPro but not easily. You can only add one song at a time. There is an option to import playlist…but, of course, the Shanling app does not work on iOS with the MoPro, so that is a no go either. On the M1s you can add whole albums or multiple songs to your on device playlists, so that is much better. App still does not work though. :(

    • @tamasvaro7923
      @tamasvaro7923 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham bit disappointing, but I think for this price it's alright! Many thanks for the very quick response!

  • @koyonari1843
    @koyonari1843 7 місяців тому

    How does this compare to the Sony NW-A45, I'll be pairing it with the S12 and I want to get a more full and impactful sound while still having the treble there in my S12

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  7 місяців тому

      I do not have the Sony so I can’t really say. :(

  • @ragnaricks
    @ragnaricks Рік тому

    I need answers for this. I have owned a Shanling M0 Pro for less than a month now and even at full battery, it drains immediately in less than a day even in complete STANDBY. Does leaving it equipped with an IEM (while not playing music) still drain its battery?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      I have no idea, but the battery does drain faster than expected, even with the player off…I will check mine.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      I just checked mine after a few days of being unused and completely powered off, and the battery was completely drained. It was fully charged when I put it away, I do not know if this is problem or just how the tiny battery in the thing behaves.

  • @copylondon
    @copylondon Рік тому

    I have one of these but have no idea how to get my own music from iTunes onto a card so that i can listen. Any advice much appreciated and thanks for the video.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      First I have to make a disclaimer: I an not totally sure this method is legal…and at the very least you are denying the artist his or her Apple pay-out for the times you play the song on your M0 Pro…but it is fairly easy to do (well it is at least doable). First you have to download (and purchase a subscription to) one of the many applications that are designed to capture iTunes or Apple Music streams and re-record them as a file you can put on a micro SD card to use in your M0 Pro. They are all very similar apps, but only two that I could find (the most expensive subscriptions of course) will capture the full hi res lossless versions of the songs. Once you have the app, it will log on to your Apple Music account and you will be able to chose songs you want to capture. Capture takes a while…as the song has to actually play in the background to be saved…though the apps speed up the play and record cycle. It takes about 60 seconds per song. You can save the song files to your hard-drive (with is the default), or you can save them directly to an SD card in a card reader attached to your computer. Obviously if you save them to your hard drive you have to then copy them to the card…so it makes sense to me to just set the file destination in the app to your card in the first place. You can do this by just attaching the M0 Pro directly to your computer and using it as the card reader. Once you finish adding songs to the card, when you disconnect the USB C cable from the M0 Pro it will automatically “index” your card so the M0 Pro software can access the songs. Like I say, possible, yes, Easy, no. My attitude is that I will use the M0 Pro as a DAC connected to my iPad Pro to stream music whenever I can, so the artist gets his or her cut…and only use it as a player using the songs I have saved when I am away from wifi…or traveling far afield. That is my personal compromise. :)

    • @copylondon
      @copylondon Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham Hi, thanks for that info. I am only looking to convert music I own, that has been in my iTunes library for many years. I'm not a member of any streaming service. And I've recently gotten rid of my smart phone and iPad, so just trying to figure things out that I haven't had to do for a LONG time. Thanks again.

  • @KetansaCreatesArt
    @KetansaCreatesArt Рік тому

    Do you know when the M0 Pro 1st update is coming?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      I asked Shanling that about a month ago, when reporting the battery not holding charge…but did not get a reply other than that they were reporting it to their engineers. :)

    • @KetansaCreatesArt
      @KetansaCreatesArt Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham , Oh alright. Thank you for the reply.
      I think the battery capacity 11 to 14h play time that they officially claim, works only when screen is kept off. Thats how they trick us.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      @@KetansaCreatesArt There is a different issue where on at least some units the battery discharges overnight, even with the unit off. :(

  • @rajeebdas1724
    @rajeebdas1724 Рік тому

    Hey man..
    One query.
    If i don't stream and have songs downloaded on an sd card, what would I have to do to load new songs onto that card once it is in the M0 pro?
    Is there any way of transferring songs to it from my phone?
    Or since it's a non Android device, would I have to remove the card everytime, insert it back into my phone, load the new songs and re-insert into the M0 pro?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +3

      There are a couple of ways. You could just take the card and put it in a card reader on your computer, and just drag and drop, or you could just set the M0 Pro to use the USB C port as “digital storage” and connect it to your computer via a USB C cable, and then drag and drop. If you are using a “note burner” style app to capture songs from Apple or Tidal or whatever, you can just set your file destination in the app to your SD card, and skip saving to your hard drive and copying later. Once you have added new songs to the card, the M0 Pro will have to re-index the card, which will take a while, depending on the size of your card. You can set the M0 Pro to do that automatically when you insert the card or disconnect it from you computer if you did the direct transfer option…or you can set it to wait until you select “Update Music” from the settings menu. Either way, be prepared for a wait until it finishes re-indexing. :)

    • @rajeebdas1724
      @rajeebdas1724 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham Sry for sounding like a noob..
      So i can potentially connect the M0 pro to my Android phone too , using a Usb C to Usb C cable and transfer the new songs?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +2

      @@rajeebdas1724 Yes, you should be able to do that, if you phone has true OTG USB C (not all do) and you have a “files” or “finder” app, and if you already have the tracks in your storage…not in a streaming app’s storage…but in your own storage. You can not play music you have saved from a streaming app outside the app (there are apps that will allow you to save these downloads to your own storage…and transfer them to the M0 Pro, but it is a process!) (And might, or might not, be legal…certainly it is diminishing the revenue the artist receives on playback.) Yes, I know, not an easy answer. :)

    • @rajeebdas1724
      @rajeebdas1724 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham fortunately i have a 128 gb sd card with songs on it, so i guess that won't be a problem..😁
      Btw.. thanks a hell lot for taking time to answer my stupid questions..😁
      Much appreciated!

  • @markwillems4826
    @markwillems4826 Рік тому

    I struggle with the gestures: not responsive, have to turn the M0 with wheel upwards and than sometimes the gestures works

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      Are you using the M0 or M0 Pro. I have no issues with the the gestures…but I am not using a screen protector unless one came already installed. I certainly did not put one on. Some of the little icons are hard to hit with my fat fingers…but swipes work fine. ??

    • @markwillems4826
      @markwillems4826 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham M0 pro. Clicking on icons works just fine, but swiping to left or right does not go smooth, only when holding it on its side. Yes, already installed screen protector on it. Have you removed it?

    • @markwillems4826
      @markwillems4826 Рік тому

      @@StephenIngraham M0 pro. Clicking on icons works just fine, but swiping to left or right does not go smooth, only when holding it on its side. Yes, already installed screen protector on it. Have you removed it?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому

      @@markwillems4826 I never put one on, but it might have come with one pre-installed. If you put another one on..then that might be the problem. :)

  • @birumutiara2169
    @birumutiara2169 Рік тому

    how about bluetooth range, is it ok or not acceptable?

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  Рік тому +1

      I have not played with BT enough to say for sure. Sorry

  • @asprine21
    @asprine21 Рік тому

    hi, make an overview of how the connection to the phone via bluetooth and wireless headphones is connected via the same bluetooth, please

  • @georgehiphopforever
    @georgehiphopforever 10 місяців тому

    Got mine VERY BAD PRODUCT.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  10 місяців тому

      In what way?

    • @georgehiphopforever
      @georgehiphopforever 10 місяців тому

      @@StephenIngraham not a reliable device and with bugs,screen is not responsive sometimes and bluetooth sound lot of breaks...hidizs-ap80-pro-x is far away better.

    • @StephenIngraham
      @StephenIngraham  10 місяців тому +1

      @@georgehiphopforever Mine did not give me many issues but I did move on from it fairly quickly.