Fate of 'Putin's' $700 Million Yacht sealed as 'Straw Owner' Sanctioned! | Ep88 SY News
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The man believed by the US to be a straw owner for two superyachts totalling over a billion dollars has himself been sanctioned today by the EU. Eduard Khutainatov was added to teh growing list of Russians sanctioned meaning that the vessel believed by most to be owned by Putin himself is surely destined to stay in Italy for a long period.
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Mr. Sysman's puzzlement at the news delivery is awesome. It's also why I for one love to hear his reporting. He enthusiastically AND objectively delivers the (actual) results of his research. I never planned to know anything about yachts, but at least I walk away from eSysman news feeling more confidently informed about something lol. Thank you Thank you.
Ordinarily I would question the legality of the seizure of private property just because the owner's government is pursuing some kind of controversial military action.
However, in the case of these Russian billionaires, it's well known that you cannot get rich in Russia unless you're TOTALLY in bed with Putin and his malignant little KGB friends.
In that case, I say grab every Russian yacht you can! Then take them all out and sink them in deep water. Why pay for upkeep?
It’s only when you see the helicopter on the flying fox that you realize how massive that yacht is. It is absolutely enormous!
2 helipad on that one.
Probably stored below deck with all of the other boats yachts and toys.
Yes, they're on board also.
Guten Tag Herr Haverkamp,
did you ever track down where your German name originated?
Sounds like Muensterland or Sauerland to me - take care and
try to stay out of trouble!
@@johnlong384 Be good or don't get caught.
Someone should have explained that to Navarro. Or they tried but couldn't get a word in one letter at a time.
Is it a yacht or is it a small ship?
And not ultralight Heli but biggest class
I am 6o years old living in Nova Scotia, and as broke as f....,it is nice hearing that even the rich can be bothered by bills. Thanks for cheering me up. Love your work.
feels good :)
Be glad you’re living in NS. it’s far better than places in the US.
@@donalkinsella4380 😂
@@donalkinsella4380 just needed to work harder, right?
My son Is coming over to NS for 12 months from Australia ♥️
Always Great to hear more news on this! Awesome reporting. Thank you!
What a time to be doing 'Super Yacht News'...
Every day, a different angle, political, economic, social - just an incredible time...
your first sentence is all that went through my head and i had to look ahaha
I think new subscribers coming in packs.😂
Finally someone uses their brain... By placing sanctions directly on the SY... you force the owner to come forward and prove ownership and in turn that also allow the U.S. to ask for discovery.. that opens all records.. whalla.... Put the burden of proof on them... Brilliant.... I've wondered why this was not already being done..
On dit «voilà».
I am not sure that a vessel can be sanctioned directly. I guess we will see what the courts say.
Cool idea. Thanks and Best Regards!
@dougford maybe you could learn something from these GOOD people 👊😅✌
Guilty till.....innocent? .... this is America.... new normal?
Excellent!
Sanctions and your reporting
Superyachts got a lot more interesting on February 24th.
It's the current thing. In a while, it will be something else
I'm so glad you are here to track down the answers to these questions since I am not finding useful info in the regular news. Maritime law and customs are a specialty. Most reporters probably don't know enough about the subject to fact check their own stories.
I wish people would do their homework before they publish. 😒
No idea why I enjoy these so much.
Whenever presented with 20 videos on youtube, and one of those is yours, it is one of the first I watch. Your mild-mannered review/take on the news is calming and informative.
It is very clear that to get any trustworthy news about superyachts you need to follow this channel, keep up the great work eSysman and the providers of information working to keep us all informed. As for the AIS, it seems that Russian owned/flagged tankers are also going dark, in breach of maritime law, but what penalty is there for this, other than being told you are being naughty.
It is up to individual governments to take action with any offence that occurs within their own waters.
@@colbr6733 But what about when the offence takes place in international waters, for example half way across the Atlantic? The IMO would appear to be toothless in the face of mass breaches of maritime law, by a state and its citizens.
How many Superyachts are seized in total.??????
Love this channel
Excellent! They are getting more strategic. 👏👏
It’s like an unidentified car being parked too long in the wrong place. The council tows it until the owner shows up with all the paperwork and claims it.
Derelict vessels are actually a frequent issue
EXCELLENT commentary..I grew up on an island off the coast of New Jersey. I learned how to operate boats and did a lot of fishing. I miss the smells, the ocean, and the fishing, but I live in Kansas now and don't miss the hurricanes. I hope you take this as a compliment: you are the "Glenn Kirschner" of boating. 🤗🤗🤗 Love your updates. 🥰🥰🥰
Used to live in Maplewood!
Thank you eSysman!
I like how you offhandedly mention you've talked to the lawyer who is representing the defense for a superyacht in Fiji's supreme court
@@greabo9544 yes!!
I never feel comfortable cold calling, but it works alot!
NASA on friend!
@@greabo9544 "ISIS" LOL. Why would NASA know how to get ahold of ISIS? I wonder if a terrorist organization is harder to get in touch with than the ISS.
100% wrong on AIS's needing to go back to the manufacturer to alter the static data. Any knowledgeable marine electronics dealer knows how to do this on most brands. Furuno only requires certified people knowing how to enter the service menu with a specific password. Other manufacturers provide dealers with software or other means to change the static information. All of these vessels are compulsory AIS-A and there is no provision to make them receive only unless they are on a military vessel and even then, it takes specific documentation to do that. They are violating all sorts of regulations going dark so why aren't they being held accountable? I guess it will take a collision and casualty to make that happen...
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Great move just sanctioning the yachts. Let the real owners come forward (or not) and let them rust into nothing until the authorities get approached. Don't chase the owners, make the owners come to you.
Good point and a good way to stay neutral.
Problem is the docking fees are thousands of dollars a day. Somebody has to pay for it.
@@kristopherdetar4346 That's a very good point. I believe the arresting authorities also have a financial responsibility; maybe tow the vessels to government facilities, which I think in this case they are trying to do.
@@Matt-yg8ub Ridiculous statement.
Have you ever been to a NYC impound yard?? Not as far off as you would think.
Thank you so much for all the information. If possible, I would like to know how the sanctions on Imperial yachts are affecting the industry. Since this company is one of the largest yacht concierge services I can think of.
Thank you so much. It’s fun to hear your info.
What purpose does seizing the yachts serve? You can't sell them. Even if you could, how many people can afford to buy them? If you don't keep up with the required daily maintenance they deteriorate quickly and that maintenance is expensive.
Excellent reporting as usual. I've come to the stage now that I press the like button before I've watched the video. Keep up the good work 👍
Keep up the good work Shaman gang no news in papers down here inEchuca Victoria,very informative.thank you.
Great job !!! Robert from Ohio USA 🇺🇸!!!
Glad you are reporting facts and not politics. As such I will also refrain. That said, wish i could have made a great deal in January
What would happen if Russia declared them as part of the Russian navy?
Sink it. FUKPTN
it would have been laughed off as a stunt
Great information. there is no question that you work hard to keep on top of this. Well done.
The “AIS unplug” command feels like it’s coming from someone who’s level of paranoia far exceeds their capacity to be receptive to sound advice.
@Jody Owen AIS is supposed to be used under international maritime law for safe reasons of safe navigation. Years ago I worked a couple seasons on commercial fishing boats and it was a pretty common practice to unplug the the transmitting antenna side of the system especially in derby style fisheries or just broadcast the boat number. If I remember correctly from reading I did while on my wheel watch shifts the Coast Guard can give you some grief if they want to for turning off your AIS and your insurance company normally has clause’s about always keeping your AIS on and if you were in collision and it was proven you intentionally did not have it on they could deny your claim. All that said it is my understanding the international maritime law for always running your AIS doesn’t have much teeth but the vessels insurance company well that’s another story.
@Jody Owen If you use a boat or a ship you have to obey International Maritime Law. It’s as simple as that.
@@Ron-zr6se This enables seafarers to be aware of other vessels long before visual contact is possible-and make time-sensitive decisions. The more expensive the boat, the more important this is. Your insurance company would also demand you have this system. Also if you didn't have an AIS system trying to get to a port to get fuel would be impossible. You wouldn't be allowed in.
@@CCB249 I can understand the reasons for AIS but just the other day, I encountered an unexpected 5 mile traffic back-up on the state highway I was traveling. Doubtless, most drivers phones were receiving ads for close-by businesses but no service detected the traffic jam. A 4 way traffic light was malfunctioning, flashing red, making 6 lanes a 4 way stop sign. Certainly a dangerous situation at any time but approaching rush hour made a bad accident almost inevitable. I couldn't believe no one was aware when I called it in. Monitoring our movements to serve advertisers instead of public safety shows me who these systems REALLY benefit. Public safety is just the selling point, not the reality!
@Jody Owen What about the other vessels in the area that might hit you?
I really enjoy these updates. You truly provide a unique and terrific insight to the yachting world. A question I have is what affect these arrests and seizures having on job opportunities within this industry? Is this industry unemployment reaching high levels? Thank you. Keep the information coming.
No. It's a tiny amount of overall jobs.
And into international law and enforcement of sanctions law.
@@jnagarya519 Its unique insight into the future as trust is gone.
@@churblesfurbles To what "trust" do you refer?
Unique and accurate information.👍
Thank you for the video. Seems like a minefield out there...
Can confirm. It is absolutely possible to force a plugged in AIS system to broadcast even if it’s set to receive only. Can’t go into details but western law enforcement has had that capability for at least a decade. Maybe more.
That wouldn't surprise me. Cell phones can be tracked even if it's off. You have to remove the battery.
BS
@Grant UK I have worked with AIS for many years. Not possible. Plus, AIS is a ship to ship, anti collision system transmitted on marine vhf with an effective range of about 20 Nm. The reason we can all see this traffic is because, mostly volunteer land based stations are set up which upload data to the Internet. Many times when it's alluded to that they have switched the AIS off is simply the fact they are out of reach from shore stations. Its voluntary if the yacht/ship wishes to upload their position via satellite. However tracking systems for use by shore management mayne another story but not AIS. If big brother was so good, MH 370 wouldn't still be mystery.
@Grant UK Sorry but an AIS unit is actually a very simple gps transponder and no way could it be activated remotely. It has very limited range as operating on VHF. As I mentioned, yachts can voluntarily broadcast their position vi's satellite but that's not a legal requirement.
@Grant UK Yeah, its really not as nefarious as someone is making out. Its common for owners to want them switched off, or "a fuse has blown" lol.
I would certainly switch it off especially when you know who is blabbing about yacht movements lol.
YESS!
I know you’ve mentioned that yachts don’t just leave, they need permission etc. but surely in some of these cases the owners won’t be concerned with national or maritime law and might order their crew to proceed without the required authorization.
The owners can order the crew to break local laws but, well, not without consequences to *somebody* for that.
In order to sail a vessel you would need a good amount of people from both the deck and engine teams to be willing to sail the vessel and possibly lose their professional tickets and therefore ability to work. Often vessels need pilots on board to navigate certain waters as well as tug boats to help them leave ports. There could also be port authorities or military that would be aware of the vessels movement and could act to physically stop it even once it was sailing within that counties water.
@@Biginjapan85 Don't really think that Fiji has much of a navy to worry about.
Ty
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I read the FOX story on M/Y A and had to chuckle. I don't know the draft of the yacht but I know it couldn't float in a creek. Consider the source: FOX.
Why does it appear there are no consequences for turning off AIS?
Cute
Who regulates or polices AIS?
I read a disturbing article today that suggested half of the affiliated fleet of Russian Oil Tankers had gone dark since the start of sanctions.
Reports had suggested Oil Tankers may be transferring loads ship to ship out at sea to 'clean' cargo or avoid sanctions.
If this is correct, a seriously accident is waiting to happen.
Imagine a cruise ship hitting a super oil Tanker in the dark or fog?
How NK survives
I'm so glad I subbed to this channel. As soon as I saw the story that M/Y A was "found" in a "creek" flying a UAE flag, I was like "Sysman is gonna clear this up for me"
Dubai creek is just a name. It is more of a river with lots of boats and boat traffic. Of what we usually think of as a creek.
Now is the time to ask authorities if you can tour the ships
You are a gold mine of yacht knowledge. That's k for all your work.
Enjoy all the yacht information 👍👍👍
Mr Sysman brilliant work.
Figured it was only a matter of time before they added him to sanctions. If he is a clean owner that has ties to Putin then he would be added. Took longer than I expected to be honest.
Perhaps if the State Department strongly suggest to Fiji's government their $85 Billion in foreign aid from the U.S. is in danger of disappearing, those "court ordered stays" might also disappear.
Guess the US will not say that because they give very little aid to Fiji... less aid than China provides.
Fiji do not get $85 Billion from the US. Last year it was around $US8 million. Australia gives around $A40 million In 2020 for cyclone emergency relief Australia gave an extra $A85 Million and USA gave an extra $US35 Million Facts matter.
Just wondering how they handle the maintenance of a seized vessel. Who keeps paying for the marina fees, technical maintenance, the crew etc? We the tax payer? I see a lot of follow up questions arising here.
If you're American, ask your Representative and Senators. It's always a good thing to make sure they know the laws they are pasing and regulations of the agencies they oversee.
no one here is able to answer...................i've been asking for months.
You're an excellent reporter about the superyacht world.
Thanks!
Thank you 🙏🏻
I love how we find new ways to make them pay. Sanctioning the management companies was a great move.
One of the most stupid comments i've read in a long time.
I love how the west reveals, impulsive self ruin like Amber Heard. Russia will continue to take what matters, agricultural, industrial, coastal dock and shipyards, the entire coast and more, while the reckless west liquidate the youth of the pawn Ukraine. You chuckle but when looking at your rising bills, its clear who is paying.
i understand they should 'pay' but does it justify their yacht stolen without actual trial/crime(in term of local law)?
where would this money wind up anyway?
its almost like u deliberately took ur neighbor's car without a trial/courtorder for auction just because he committed crime in another country.
@@helloworld9996 that's exactly the point. It is just pure and plain illegal.
Which is nothing new when it comes to US and international politics.
Now, one can surely dream that on the long run there won't be consequences. Reality is, at one point it will be payback time, and it will hurt. Sanctions are already doing way more damage to the western economy than the Russian one.
I think it’s great they are naming the yachts and going for more sanctions. Please keep us posted on that Happiness boat ( from last video) and if you hear anymore about what they seize from owner.
The fox story is typical of fox. Ugh. Thankfully we have you to give us the real details and before anyone else does. Once again, well done! 🤗
Dubai Creek has been described as a natural saltwater creek, tidal inlet, and watercourse or waterway in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. It extends about 9 miles inwards and forms a natural port that has traditionally been used for trade and transport.
All the large media companies have some of these clickbait titles these days. It’s an unfortunate trend for sure.
@@chaz000006 That's right! I had forgotten about that, thank you. That info does help the Fox story title a bit but is still kinda awkward.
The word “creek” is also used in Jeddah to describe an inlet channel in the Red Sea just north of the city.
I think it’s the Dubai Creek area, the old area of Dubai where the old market is et cetera. Best yacht I saw there in 1997 was a 140 foot or so, and it had wood paneling, looked cool- and I think it’s still there.
Also used to describe the location Peter Navarro is without a paddle.
@@justayoutuber1906 • Correstion: Navarro is UP the creek, not IN it . . . yet!🤣🤣🤣
The Dubai Creek is not such a creek as the newspaper headline makes out !
I worked in Dubai and often took a ferry across to get to the market.
Lots of boats sailing up and down.
Ras el Kaimer is about a 30 minute drive from Dubai proper !
ok, smarter responding posts have already happened, but I am just cheering your incredibly cool comment. A wonderful planet, filled with things I know nothing about, and people who share tidbits about them. Thanks.
Question: When a vessel turns off AIS, it's illegal, but who or rather which organization(s) or agency has jurisdiction to impose sanctions and what might those be? It seems like these yachts are doing it with impunity.
No, it's not illegal to turn it off. There may be a variety of reasons why one would do it.
@@chaz000006 That is incorrect, at least if you're a member of the UN. The International Maritime Organisation (an agency of the UN) would be the one responsible for regulation of AIS laws etc, but the individual UN countries/members are the ones who would carry out the "punishment". None of these large Russian yachts fly Russian flags, they are almost exclusively registered in UN countries, or elsewhere.
@@chaz000006 of course it is illegal to turn off an AIS on a compulsory vessel. Try rolling into New York Harbor with your AIS off and watch how fast you have guns aimed at you! Last I knew, it was a $10,000 fine and up to five years in jail for incorrect AIS information in the US and the captain is responsible, not whoever may have programmed or shutoff the AIS.
@@AB-tc8lx smaller vessels are typically non-compulsory AIS-B's and as such they are not required to TX, but this is a new one on me and I've never heard of any sailboat doing this. Don't believe any of that reality TV crap, it's all staged!
@@GoodkatNW I've seen sailboats do it to avoid pirates from locating them, but it seems the size and type of vessel and it's mooring status can play a part: The regulation requires AIS to be fitted aboard all ships of 300 gross tonnage and upwards engaged on international voyages, cargo ships of 500 gross tonnage and upwards not engaged on international voyages and all passenger ships irrespective of size.
Being sued by Fox News for defamation would be like being sued by Putin for bullying!?! 😂🤣
Excellent info as usual, Thankyou
What will be done with these arrested vessels?
Such wonderful news!
A superyacht in a creek, lol. Just trying to picture it is funny
With all these super yachts being taken it's going to be tough finding someone to buy these things even if sold cheap just because of the amount of upkeep and repairs they will need sitting around for so long not being looked after.
Don't worry our govt politicians will take over and use them, er I mean watch over them carefully. Maybe even buy with all that $ being floated away into pockets. I mean sent to Ukraine. Wink wink
@@2Ryled you might be right! I could see them throwing parties for generous donations and living it up on their subjects dimes.
@@jtaylorb88 Who is “them”?
As a novice please explain to me this. Who is going to buy these confiscated super yachts. You would only be able to sail them in America or the EU waters. Because as soon as they sail onto another jurisdiction the original owner would go to that court system and say they were illegally seized! American and EU courts are for American and EU. Not the rest of the world and not the open sea.
If I'm not mistaken, if they remain in international waters, they are somewhat safe. If I was a yacht owner, I would be taking fuel and provisions in safe waters and never go to a hostile port til in home territory.
I find it more than disturbing that the American Government who found that they had legal difficulties proving that the vessels they suspected of belonging to Russians, so the decided to change the rules and they can now apparently just arrest any vessel they like, without any apparent recourse in law for the unfortunate owners. Inc ones who might have nothing to do with Russia etc.
The Laws are in place for a reason, however America seems to think if it does not like the laws then they can just change the rules to suit themselves.
Absolutely agree with you!
ROTFL They haven't had much problem with proof in Fiji or Italy. The video probably erred a bit in insinuating there was any change in rules. There hasn't been any. They need a court to approve the seizures and include evidence. They've been following the money and that begins to escalate what they've found. The Russian banks are sanctioned, they start seeing where all of the banks are sending money to pay for house repairs or yacht fuel. Don't matter who owns those places, they're paid for with sanctioned money. Exactly what happened with Imperial, they've been watching where Imperial money is coming from. When it came from sanctioned sources, now their sanctioned. That's not any change in rules, that's a change in the information they knew about it.
I find it disturbing that the US can place sanctions on private persons and seize their property because of their nationality. The world will celebrate when America slides down the tubes.
Its why the U.S. is screwing up. The world will hate them soon enough, once the world finds out we are run by the Chinese...
The US caused the “war” in the Ukraine, what gives them the right to seize,arrest or detain any of these pieces of property?
You’re not only an expert on the world of super yachts you’re becoming a legal authority as well.
@@aroncamponovo1262 😂 And I am a neurosurgeon
Thank you sir! Another informative video. Like the commenter below, just go after the vessel, the rest will fall into place.
These Russia super yachts being ceased had been a boost for the channel! I was subbed before it started
Yeah, it's very interesting. Almost "fun" except the reason for it is so terrible.
Cheers mate!
For doing what you're doing.
Keep up the great wok. Watch your back.
2 boats arrested, cuffed and will appear before the local court magistrate
You are so incredibly informative. Mind boggling information. And good to know authorities are after these corrupt mobsters. Thank you.
This channel is the only source I trust for information about "Russian Yacht Chess"👍🇺🇸
Love the videos, this channel has really come into its own these past few months. One question: are you actually at these locations or is it a greenscreen? The backgrounds move but the lighting is sometimes off. I can’t really place it and it would be cool to know
So seriously. What is going to happen to all these yachts. There is NO market outside of Russia for these
I think the Yachts should be sold and the money given to Ukraine or they should just be scrapped.
M/Y A is UGLY! You'd have to give me millions to take it off the owner's hands.
I'm surprised they think they are hidden using the IMO. It's a giant boat, you can see it from miles away.
Brilliant, keep it up
"Yacht hiding in a creek" sounds about right for Fox lol.
ANYTHING to click bait one more view...
The port of Houston is buffalo bayou. Basically the same as a creek.
And yet it would be so easy for these people to just provide a verifiable document for the transfer of ownership to them ... oh. Right. Nevermind
Motor Yacht A has got to be one of the Ugliest things that I have ever seen 😳
why didn't the Russians pull their yachts back before in invasion?
Motor yacht "A" is in Ras Al Khaimah UAE
I’m curious, if the AIS is turned off, is the insurance valid? Anyone know?
It’s not. This was answered in another comment thread.
Perhaps they should just compile a short list of Russians who are not sanctioned. Does the rule "if a Russian can afford a yacht he should be sanctioned" apply?
Fiji do not get $85 Billion from the US. Last year it was around $US8 million. Australia gives around $A40 million In 2020 for cyclone emergency relief Australia gave an extra $A85 Million and USA gave an extra $US35 Million Facts matter.
$700million yatch? really?
that's a lot of money to go fishing!
Good
Class A AIS units - Changing the TX name is possible.
Just to clarify it is possible for the vessel to change the name by simply logging into the unit and pressing a few buttons on practically every AIS unit often through web browser and/ or some software.
However
returning the unit to the service provider is required when the AIS unit MMSI number is incorrect.
Reprogramming the MMSI number or returning the unit to factory settings is carried out using software provided by the manufacturer that either the service provider will carry or the unit has to be returned to the manufacturer.
Thank you….
The Military port is in the Ras Al Khaimah Creek. RAK followed the naming conventions of Creek and River while a protectorate of the British Crown. Technically rivers have to flow all year. So RAK on RAK creek. (Yes, there are other former colonies on "rivers" that are actually creeks.)
I worked on a vessel that had 3 AIS transponders, One with the full data loaded, one with just ID numbers and the third was never used but was blank. They could be powered up and selected from the engine room. The switch was unlabelled but I discovered it while troubleshooting a problem with the AIS A forth AIS-B unit was installed but no wiring remained to it.
Now THERE is useful information.
I was just wondering That exact thing, how many of them would have multiple units and then I saw your comment thanks dude 😂
@@1mezion Some units can be fed location data from an external source. I know of one clever guy who played back NMEA data from a previous voyage into his AIS and it showed him active when the vessel was actually on the grid getting scraped!
So are these yachts going to be auctioned? Can I buy one?
no they are still owned by their original owners they have been arrested not seized.....
The intent is for them to be sold on the market, with process going to Ukraine for rebuilding. So: yes, you can! (Eventually)
I wouldn’t. The owners will come back one day and they are not pleasant folk
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle a visit from the authentic Russian Mafia? You are right.
can't even get a big canoe in a creek. i don't recall seeing a superyacht on the amazon river neither. leave it to the news
Wish you would say how many to date have been arrested and how many have been seized.
that much money for one man's ego is just absurd and very sad for us as humans
Motor yacht A and Sailing yacht A both have the aesthetic appeal of a soviet-era prison block.
I think I followed your suspicion about unplugging the AIS. These vessels are under amazing pressure from governments all over the world; pay is lagging; getting home is an issue. On some of these yachts it's possible that the professional crew has bailed and we are seeing actions from ad hoc replacements, perhaps even the owner's personal staff and body guards. (Some of us indulge here in a moment of malicious "serves 'em damn well right").