As i sat watching this, it hit me why i like your vids so much. They are no nonsense, no "look at me, i'm a SEAL, i'm better than you" braggadocio. You are calm, patient and informative. I like how you break down the how and why of all things. That's important for those of us that don't just take things at face value, but always ask "why?" ( My Chief hated this in the Navy..lol) Thank you very much!
You must have never been in a special operations unit and it tells... I was with 3rd recon/force recon and 2nd marsoc raiders and I can tell you with 100% honesty that real special operators are chill laid back and humble. It's the infantry dudes that feel they need to throw around their weight and act like they are badasses with an ego trip.
I turned down chief 3 times. Sorry, but they were far less than I already was. So I will lower myself to their standards, play their silly unproductive games, to prove that I meet their pathetic standards, but not really the Navy's? I read my commendations, from time to time. Captains, a Rear Admiral, many students. And my peers despised me. Training officers wanted to know the college I graduated from. "School of hard knocks". They weren't familiar that one. ;-) Teachers in school thought I was dumb, ASVAB 138, Navy declared me unlimited. Could have gone Nuke if my math was better. Funny that my IQ test said I was a Visual Mathematician. (139) I was cooking breakfast for 8 people while taking it. You learn to just shut up, because people don't like feeling dumb. And you're not allowed to kill them when they attack. Lately it seems you are not allowed to stop them from attacking you. Go rural and don't let them find you.
@@recon1986 Yes, they have a level of training that courts don't particularly favor. (Hero's were supposed to die) And keyboard warriors are standing in line?!! Country is done for now. Lay low till the flashover has passed and start anew with good people, good skills, and a Righteous heart. Sad, but true. But afterwards we can take the electronics out of the steel trashcans and throw a MOJO party!
Been a hunter in the PNW all of my life and a LEO, swat sniper, entry, weapons instructor etc.. I have lots of experience shooting 2.5x and 4x scopes non hunting rifles in thick woods as well as open sights (peep sights) in my early years. Getting into longer range rifles and 3-9x and 4-12x scopes on bolt actions as I grew up in my hunting and LE. Years later, I found that for me, a 1-4 is about all I need for my "emergency rifle". I can see a deer or bear at 600 yards on 4x and get quick shots at close range in thick dark timber for bear hunting on 1x. I use a Tavor 7. I appreciate all that you do Chadd. God Bless and God Speed my friend..
At this point 1-6x is so incredibly common and well developed that it's almost harder to find a 1-4x of whatever quality/features you're looking for. May as well just take the 50% greater top end zoom and run with it. Nothing wrong with using a 1-4x, I'm more just commenting on the realities of the current tech and market.
@@1BeGe: You're correct of course, high power variables have become quite popular! Now, if I were scoping an AR-10 and not a Bullpup .308, I would be looking at the high magnification LPVO's, for their obvious advantages... And that is a wholenotherdiscussion!
Mentions his 2000 dollar rifle but not what scope he was actually talking about. Quit with the dick swingin and tell me what scope you’re talking about
@@1BeGeYou can still find Steiner 1-4's, but they upped the price significantly. Also the Vortex Ranger(formerly the Viper Gen1), but yeah, all the new ones are getting stretched out. I have a 1-8, but prefer my 1-4 over it for 5.56.
I gotta say that as a guy who’s vision isn’t as sharp as it used to be, I have found that 1x6 and all the way up to 10x is not wasted on an AR15. When you can see 3x5 or similar size targets at 500m consistently, the extra magnification is worth it - not that it’s every day that one will shoot at steel that far - unless you’re on a 500 plus range daily. I currently use a Burris RT6 on a 16 inch.
US Service Rifle Competition proves that iron sights will produce results on par to magnified optics. The qualifier is a target big enough to permit the shooter to get a consistent sight picture. The 20 X 40 inch E type target can be engaged exactingly to about 600 meters. Of course when eyesight is poor iron sights will not get the shooter desired results but an optic in the 4 power arena will get the job done without the issues associated with higher magnification.
@@charlesludwig9173 I agree. A rifle’s inherent accuracy is not dependent on type of sighting system. It’s the skill of the shooter, not just the skill to see the target, but to get into a stable shooting position and apply the fundamentals. I learned the hard way when I went to an Appleseed event a few years back. Took a 10-22 with the recommended Tek Sights. I had trouble seeing the smaller targets due not getting my corrective lenses quite right - seemed to shoot equally poor when not wearing glasses or contacts. But what hurt more than anything was that I took for granted I still knew how to assume a good kneeling, sitting or prone and probably wasn’t as stable as I had been. Ive got one of their events in mind for the fall and have the summer to practice shooting positions again.
@@charlesludwig9173 "On par to magnified optics" ...sorry, but nah. It does prove that extremely skilled guys can use iron sights as well as average joes can use optics. But skilled guys with magnified optics shoot those rifles a lot further than 600 meters, and often at targets smaller than 20x40.
As a cop and working over seas I found the Eotech sight the fastest CQB sight I ever used. I never took a long shot with an M4. Now that I am retired I find a LPVO the best all around .
But Ian and Krusty Karl at In Range gave the completey retarded take that iron sights are unnecessary and you should just trust batteries and electronics to always work! Now I’m confused 🥴
@@syntaxerrorsix3137 gotta have both since electronics can fail and batteries die. Not to mention that if someone is rocking a $2k+ rifle and they can’t shoot with irons, then they need to invest money into training otherwise they’re just holding onto a rifle for their future enemy.
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 that’s what I tried to say but mid tier groups don’t wanna hear that. a red dot with a magnifier or ACOG wouldn’t be at all but I like irons I’m not trying to shot the fuckin moon lol I’ll end up adding something one day
As a former U.S. Army Infantry soldier, I’d like to share some additional insights regarding the first carbine that you discussed, specifically about the rear peep sight and the two holes on it. You provided excellent information about the smaller hole, and I’d like to add some additional information regarding the larger peep hole. In addition to its primary function, the larger aperture is particularly useful in situations where a shooter needs to wear a gas mask. It allows for easier target acquisition by enabling the shooter to cant the rifle at a 45-degree angle and still engage targets however there are CONS to doing this and they are as follows.... Shooting an M16A2 Rifle While Wearing an M40 Gas Mask( this one is particularly difficult for some shooters due to the Filter Cans placement) >Shooting an M16A2 rifle while wearing an M40 gas mask requires some adjustments to your shooting technique. Here are some tips and tricks to help you effectively engage targets. >Sight Alignment: The M40 gas mask can obstruct your view through the rear sight, making it difficult to align the sights properly. >Consider using a red dot sight or other optic that allows you to keep both eyes open and acquire the target more easily while wearing the mask. >Cheek Weld: Achieving a proper cheek weld on the stock can be challenging with the gas mask's face piece in the way. >Adjust your head position and the stock's length of pull to find a comfortable and stable shooting position. >Breathing: The gas mask's filters can make breathing more difficult, especially during rapid fire or stressed situations like running for instance. >Practice controlled breathing techniques to maintain a steady sight picture and trigger control. >Recoil Management: The gas mask may affect your balance and ability to control recoil. >Ensure a stable shooting position, such as prone or supported kneeling, to help manage recoil and maintain accuracy. Thank you for reading my comment. // RS
For me, the biggest benefit of an LPVO ( currently using the arrowhead 1-10 from Swampfox, amazing scope) The biggest benefit is the ability to survey, and positively identify targets. On my take-to-war rifle, I have an Arrowhead and AEMS redot offset at a 45. Yes its clunky and added weight. But the 4 extra ounces dont matter as much when your already carrying kit with plates and a ruck. In Afghanistan most engagements I participated were all at 200+ range. This is the reason all us infantry guys love the ACOG. There is no denying the power of being able just SEE better at distance.
A budget 1-10 is a terrible option for PID as the glass quality is so poor that after about 100 yards or so you can’t really identify anything at max power.
Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I just got my first AR style weapon, it has no sights or optics mounted when I received it. This was very helpful to get me better informed and probably spending coin on something I would be disappointed with. Thank you for your service.
Never owned or shot a long gun except for a bolt action 30-06 when I was 12. I'm 66 now and retired and from the video's I've seen a truck Gun setup is what I'm thinking. I've learned a lot from your Videos. Thanks for your Help!
I've practiced with every different type of optics in the past 4 years. Knowing the personal preference is also a path to realize myself, then bring up the weakness and sharpen the strength. Very nice video!
Dude, I love you! Finally, someone who understands weight to real world capability and the need for a single BU sighting system. I get so irritated seeing everyone over magnifying their platforms far beyond the capability of the platform itself. When I went to sniper school way back in 2001 or so, we only had the 10x M3A scope. I had zero issues locating and engaging at 800 meters out to 1000 using the M24SWS. As someone who fought in the mountains of Afghanistan, my kit from day one and day 365 were nothing alike. I learned to shed weight everywhere I could. I'm also a huge fan of using the offset irons. I prefer them over a secondary electro optic because if my primary electro optic or scope fails, then those irons will almost never fail and require no logistic support. I also believe they are so much faster than using a heavier QD style mount. Going to offset irons allowed me to cut weight on my primary mounts as well as the offset irons are typically lighter than a secondary optic with a mount. I'm in a ton of night vision groups right now because I'm wanting to pick up some more NV and I really, really think all of these groups need to be renamed; "Guys who love a lot of heavy over redundant shit on their rifles but who've never had to hump with it at 6500ft ASL." Rant complete. Keep up the good work my friend! Last point and I'll shut up. I also love that only one of your carbines is a shorty. I'm not a fan of the shorty 5.56 but they are so damn popular right now with people who've never done shit and won't listen to those who have. I only own one shorty for home defense and everything else is 16" and 20". God intended that .223 round to go fast and CQB is for suckers. I guess it makes for cool twatter range video tho. I can perform CQB if forced to just fine with a 16" platform by using retracted gun techniques and pieing dafuq out of a building. Best policy though is to never intentially get yourself into a CQB situation.
I don't own any guns (yet, I will when I finish school and get my money up), but to your point, from what I understand isn't 300 blk usually better than 5.56 on short (sbr) rifles? Better performance under 200 or so yards I think; perhaps the only downside of 300 blk for cqb is a higher chance of overpen through walls in home defense scenarios if I understand correctly? Obviously 300 blk chambered guns, and also SBRs in general won't do you much good in places that have higher end engagement distances such as Afghanistan, but it's something I've been considering for a future home defense setup.
@@bodenplatte1360 I personally don't get too far into the minutia of finding the perfect round. For me, at present, 5.56x45, 9x19mm and .308 are the perfect rounds. Not because they outperform everything else. In fact, it can be argued that .308 is being rendered extinct by the plethora of new long-range calibers. I continue to use those rounds exclusively because they do most tasks well enough, are inexpensive by comparison and are in very common use. When I was a much younger man, I was always striving to find the perfect round. It doesn't exist and if it does, a new king will come along and knock it off it's mountain in short order. Everything requires a tradeoff. In the case of 300BO you're sacrificing weight, cost and commonality. In the case of 6.5CM, I would argue the same, though it far outclasses .308. 6.5 Grendel is another good round but to get the most out of it, you really should run a 20"+ barrel but otherwise It's not as costly and at least shares some characteristics of .308 and 5.56. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 300AAC round but I would argue that 7.62x39 is just as good for the money. Thus, addressing the commonality issue. It won't suppress as well but it performs just as well from an SBR. If you have money to blow then you can chase the perfect round to your hearts content. I've already been down that road and wasted tons of money. Money that is better spent on training, training, training. Because a well-trained man with an SKS will outperform the tiktok ninja with his 4K AR and no training guaranteed.
I enjoyed this topic. There are tons of things out there that will improve your business end of a long gun. I think Chadd just narrow the process down quite a bit for a bunch of shooters out there. Good job!
I have 3 pretty similar setups: LPVO + canted irons, LPVO + canted rds, rds + flashlight/green laser. The rds + laser is on an 11.5"; rds has solar panel & shake awake to help mitigate points of failure. Green laser as back-up bc quick target acquisition in CQB (though not always ideal) and - most importantly - bc I had one laying around. Sometimes, that's how it goes.
Went with an LPVO because I wanted to maximize the effectiveness of the .223 round. I felt a red dot would be limiting the rifle and my eyes are bad. Tried with an offset red dot but I felt no advantage but rather bulk. The LPVO at 1x is fine for close up.
I’d just like to add that an advantage of a canted sight vs over the top is that you can lay your rifle on top of whatever you choose as “cover”, be it a vehicle or wall etc etc, and you have a lower profile. I also have a 16” upper and a 10.5” that are setup exactly the same, lpvo with canted sight. I feel like that would be beneficial as far as muscle memory goes, despite the fact that the 10.5 isn’t going to reach as accurately as the 16” Love your videos… no nonsense and straight forward
I qualified 39/40 with iron sights back in the day, also I was taught to shoot with both eyes open for target acquisition and distance perception, I would go for iron sights first choice, second would be the scoped 308
Impressive. Almost Eagle Eye. I got 33/40 Irons in Ft Jackson during the morning. Damn near impossible to see the 250 & 300 with the shadows from those tall ass trees.
Wow! My armalite was a gift from my wife. Factory sight. I'm ok out to 200''. At 100' I 'm good. I don't have training for anything else. Just a country boy that used to hunt. My father who was in the Pacific in WW2 taught me how shoot his M1 when I was about 12. (safety etc.) Why I love this channel, to watch, listen and learn!
Awesome reviews of optics that straight to the point. A big fan of irons sights also and having BUIS. Amazing how many people I see run a carbine with an optic such as a red dot and not have BUIS let alone training with irons. I am big fan of ACOG’s for my 5.56 carbines. Shooting both eyes open (bindon sighting) helps maintain situational awareness and really works at distance with BDC.
My preferred for having just one rifle is a red dot and a magnifier with a qd mount. Red dot is optimal for home defense and the magnifier allows to stretch my effective range further and allow better ID on potential targets.
Tritium inserts for both front and rear and the absolute very first thing that I acquire for any fire arm I own. To be able to see the sights without turning on the flashlight is so worth it. I always I mean always focus on the reliability of the irons. Because when the worst gets to the worst those red dots will be long dead or broken. And the tritium irons will still be glowing.
I just got my first ww-15. I have iron sights and that’s all I need. Red dot at the most. Like he said, distance wise I’ll use something similar the ar-10. Love your vid. This is the first one or second I have seen. I read some comments and I agree. You are not on here rubbing the “I’m a SEAL”, all in our faces. We know seals are bad ass. Army rangers etc. I love and respect everyone that served and or is serving. This is our home and we protect our home. Very informative style video very much helped me with what kind of optic I was gonna put on my WW 15.
Starting to get into your videos as they’re pretty much straight to it. All my carbines are setup with etched 1-6’s with iron sights for just in case but highly doubt I’ll ever use the iron sights but they’re there. My 308’s are setup with 1-8 etched scopes and my pistol AR15s are setup with etched red dots. I prefer all my sights being etched reticles as they’re impervious to an EMP or dead batteries but most of all etched scopes and red dot sights are awesome for people suffering from many different eye problems such as Cataracts etc. . Thank you for taking the time to make this video as it’s extremely informative and that being said I’ve just subscribed in hopes to see more no nonsense straight to the point videos. Good luck and God Bless 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
For me, it’s all about the rifles purpose or use. For my home defense shorty AR, I use a simple red dot. On my 14.5” i use a EOTech with magnifier. 16” is 1-6 LPVO with micro red on top. Finally on my 18”, I have a traditional scope. I live in a suburban/rural area so some magnification could be handy in a (insert SHTF fantasy here) scenario.
I pretty much have mine built out for under 250 yards. I have a red dot magnifier combo as well. Fun thing I have is the CMMG 22 conversion kit. Its almost 100% for 22LR and its a blast. It takes about 30 seconds to switch it out. So I get two guns for one.
What round do you use in your shorty AR? Do you have neighbors nearby or around your home? I am very curious about people using ARs for home defense. Do you worry about over penetration for your interior walls?
@@Ykapur69 My house is brick, kids are upstairs, I sleep downstairs, and neighbors aren’t very close. I personally use 55gr Hornady TAP but there is plenty of good 5.56 made for defense out there. Just stay away from 62gr green tip as it’s made to “penetrate” solid objects. At the end of the day, you’re accountable for every round and ANY bullet (including pistol and shotgun) is going to blow through several interior walls so you’ve got to know your angles and backstop. Unless you’re using light birdshot out of a shotgun and that’s a whole different argument. Best way to reduce over penetration is hitting your target so train, train, train. Hope this helps!
My favorite back in my SF days was the old school colt 3 power that mounted on the carry handle- also could see iron sights under it..On my carbine setup I have a red dot w magnifier. On another a 4x nikkon scope. Its all apples and oranges. Also have become a fan of lasers for close range. Id like to see a review of NVD/thermals which will be my next upgrade.
I agree 100% with the advantages of iron sights. That is what I trained with in the military over 30 years ago. I keep my first AR with iron sights closest to me and I love it. My second choice is a pistol with a Vortex 2MOA red dot with iron cowitness backups. Very fast target acquisition and reliable. Thank you for explaining your reasons for each weapon. Your advice is sound.
Thanks for your bravery and videos no one can deny your thought you done what most could never do or see,I’ve always told people I wished I could have been a seal so much of what a great man should be thanks man
DD5v3, VCOG SCO (1-8), AFG, Troy Irons with HK style front, BFG strap, surefire light/switch setup. I have a bipod I could carry with but don’t. Pretty solid all around utility rifle that just works.
What about a Prism scope ? , with a etch Reticle like a ACOG . Extremely reliable and not dependent on batteries it’s another option after iron sights. that’s good to go 👍
i agree with you on needing multiple carbines with different optics!!! now im showing this video to the wife!!! thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge in a way everyone can understand it!!! not like most that say "my way is the best/only way to do this" thank you sir for your service & making these videos!!
This is what I'm going to do. Setup one rifle with LPVO 1x-8x for long range and a second more lightweight rifle with just a red dot or something for short range.
Hello Chad, this is Will from Ala & I just wanted to know what you think about holosun reflex sights with shake awake & solar back up power? God bless you sir & thanks for your service to our country.2A all the way 🤠 God bless the USA👍
I'm just a noob and I run your std Romeo5 raised dot on my AR9 shorty. The AR15 has my first scope, a 1-6x FFP ACSS Raptor ballistic reticle that incorporates a canted dot using the Swampfox scope mount. Now I'm having a blast ringing steel out to 400 yds. Hoping to put together a 6.5 Creedmore budget long range rifle when the deals hit come November. As a Navy vet I get a 30% discount at Swampfox which makes those $400 scopes way more affordable 💸💰💵
We used irons on our m16s in the marine corps, 500 yards all day long , center mass no problem.. we took a simple platform and turned to gadgets.. it was a light weapon! If you practice with irons it becomes 2nd nature.. I’m guilty of it.. love your channel 👍😊🇺🇸
@@ShitboxFlyer I shot the Type E silhouettes with iron sights on an M14. It didn't matter how close or how far, they are the same size all the way out to 1000 yards. NATO E-type Silhouette Target. total height 101.6 cm (40.0 in) total width 49.5 cm (19.5 in) head height 25.4 cm (10.0 in) head width 21.6 cm (8.5 in)
Just wondering how do you know what you're shooting at from 500 yards away? Irons might make sense in a deployment setting but optics are absolutely pivotal on a civilian rifle.
"I highly recommend having more than one carbine rifle" Amen brother. If one is good, two is gooder. Love the magnified sites, haven't used a Holo yet but I do love the etched reticle ACSS sites. Gracias amigo.
Great video; on your LPVO with offset RDS could you share what distances you prefer to zero your LPVO and the RDS? What technique do you use to zero the offset RDS? Thanks for all your videos--they are both informative and entertaining--you keep it real.
Great video! GarandThumb's guest in their video on AR combat ready optic configs explained why he liked canted better in military operations: the benefit of a canted vs top mounted red dot is you can maintain your cheek weld and not have to move your head. I imagine if you can get your canted sight to the same radius as your long range optic you can make a quicker, more consistent adjustment back and forth this way.
Appreciate the info and perspectives Chadd! My preferred set up is holographic on top and flip up 45 irons. I find that with practice and keeping my eyes on target the transition is smooth.
As a Marine grunt (0311 OIFOEF) we shot at 500 yards with iron sights hitting head shots. Iron sights are severely underrated by civics, especially with CQB. You’re not using any sights at close range, the body keeps the score
But was that on targets on a flat range or was that just a head sticking out from cover behind foliage or a wall in Afghanistan? Big difference. Huge difference. Target identification is extremely important.
the best setup is the one you're most effective with. Great video, very informative. I've been pointing guys who wanna ask me 1000 questions when they find out I shoot long-range to your videos. For the love of all puppies go watch one of these guys that understand this stuff. I trained with an M-16A1 in boot camp, in another century in a different millennia, decades ago.
All I ever used in the Marine Corps was the RCO and iron sights, other than that I don’t know anything about optics. Thank you for this video, i learned a lot
Same! Deployed with irons and eventually switched to an RCO. Still use irons on my ar. If it’s good enough for the USMC it’s good enough for me. Semper Fi,
check out the primary arms 5x acog its relatively inexpensive compared to other optics and is just as good as the trijicon acog in my opinion. Might like it and have the irons with a fixed a2 is what im using right now. Its pretty nice.
Thanks for posting this. A couple of months ago, I must have seen this video. Because I checked out my PCC red dot. Since we can't get the rifles we want in Massachusetts (and not being rich), my home defence PCC is a modified High-Point 9mm carbine (w/Aluminum rail & new trigger spring). Which is super reliable with ball ammo. On top is a low cost auto-wakeup 2MOA Red-Dot that needed to be about 8mm higher, so I could shoot in a more Heads-Up position. It's faster to get on target now, and more comfortable on my 77 year old neck! After that, I had to check the Red-Dot on my little TCR22 carbine (it was on sale cheap). The red-dot (actually it's a auto-on green-dot) was installed on the Low mount. Close to the bore! I had to get-down on the cheek-rest (weld it) and it was also a bit slow getting on target. I reinstalled the sight with the standard AR height RD mount and it's great now. Faster, and the Heads-Up position allows me to shoot .22LR with my ear-muffs, Without the stock comb pushing up on my headset. That one benefit, made my day! (Lost much of my hearing on a 5"-38 open gun mount as 1st loader). I'm not worried about the height-above-bore problem because of my years of short-range shooting practice. I use a .22 PCP (Benjamin Marauder Pellet Pistol) for rat-control at ranges of 4 to 40 yards. I've used red-dots and currently a 3-9x BugBuster on this little PCP. I shortened it's stock for better neck comfort. Now it looks a little like an SBR! I've got the hold-over nailed. Shouldn't be hard to carry over this skill to close-in self-defense work with a high mounted optic on a PCC, or even on .223 or .308 Self-Defense rifles. It might be a good "Hold Over" drill for pistol range shooting with the AR15 (with a .22LR adapter?) trying to keep it in the x-ring, while moving the target from 4 to 40 yards in 2 yard increments. Thanks for your service. Keep up the good work!
Great discussion on optics/sight options for our carbines. I'm a big fan of lpvo due to the versatility...most of my carbines have one, but a handful have a red dot or holographic sight. I'm not tried any sort of offset red dot or iron sights.
I think it depends on where you are at, I live in the suburbs now and would have to stand in the middle of the street for a shot to be over 100 yards. A red dot sight is perfect for around here. Where I used to live something up to 6X would have been fine. I have a couple of each though, I have back up irons on all my rifles but 60 year old eye sight does a lot better with optics.
The good thing about Iron sights, is that anyone can use them without much training or practice. No eye box, fast acquisition, and "bullet proof." With that being said, I'm running an ATACR 1-8X24 and a backup RMR on a 45 degree cant on my rifle.
@@davidb9323 lol I feel you. I just got the set up and it is great. A little heavy and a little clunky around body armor or lbe though. I really don't turn on the dot in the scope unless I'm out getting coyotes or hogs so that isn't the biggest deal for me right now. Cheers from New Mexico.
I like the way you do things. I come from the Era of the late 1980's to the Early 1990's Era of the NSW Community. We did not have the Customization Options that NSW has since I got out. What we had to use often came from the Civilian Market and was basically Scopes for Hunting rifles. It is good to see the Evolution of Optics since then. And I have to agree with your recommendations. My father who was in the Highland Regiment of the British SAS and was TAD to the U.S. training Navy S.E.A.L.s and other U.S. Military Spec Ops and Army Rangers, had the same Philosophy. Of course he strongly advocated the Use of Room Brooms i.e. Shotguns for Clearing a room When you knew there were no Civilians in the line of fire. Anyway Great Post, people need the kind of helpful information that you are providing in such a professional way. 😊✌️❤️🇺🇸
Running a Kel Tec Sub 2K Gen 2, 9mm, Burris Fast Fire Three on one and a Sig Sauer Romeo Five red dot on the other, both co witness with the front sight, and 18 months of daily use in a computer laptop bag. God bless, thanks and stay safe and healthy!😁
I prefer the canted red dot versus the red dot over scope. I find I would lift my head up to look at the dot when mounted above and loose cheekweld on the weapon. The canted I can keep everything in line and just role the weapon into my body to transition from Scope to Dot For me it was quicker and more accurate.
I think I’m still team red dot on top of scope. In theory anyway. I still only run one optic with back up irons. It seems like people are running hydras and high mounts anyway. I wonder how important cheek weld is at red dot distances anyways. But who knows. To each their own.
@@fishinforfun3359 So I agree cheek weld at red dot distance probably not that important, I meant it more so of having less head movement for quicker transitions and consistancy for me anyway
@@user-pf6wl4hv5j they totally do man, im pretty sure im going to order the daniel defense fixed sights or the scalar works fixed sights, and for 100cad more i can buy a vortex prism scope.
They actually can. He’s not talking about the cheap flip ups that’s included in the price of carbines. When you start looking at iron sights like diopters or other iron sights that have been comfortable and consistent from 300-600 meters, you’re looking at at least $200.
Great video, Sir. I use LPVOs and red dots on several of my carbines as well. If I had to pick one setup to use over all else, I'd likely end up with a 16" 5.56 and a 1-6 or 1-8.
Great information. I have a Holosun HS403C on my rifle. It's high enough to get a sight picture without canting my head, but low enough to be accurate inside 25 yards. It has a circle dot reticle, which I find easier to aim quickly, with my bad vision! (Yeah shooting and bad vision are not two things you want to hear at the same time! Lol)
Before my boating accident, I preferred a low to medium powered scope an eliminated reticle and BDC adjustment. I also ran a pressure pad light that had a laser option. DANG BOAT!!
I have Vortex Defender Red Dot, Vortex Spitfire, Vortex Strikefire, other Opticals are 3-X9 scope, 3-X12 scope, and a 6X24, I bought the S&W M&P FPC, trying the 3 Vortex and 3-X9 on the FPC, Range days are a hoot, 3-X12 is just there top shelf in the hall closet, the 6-X24 is on Winchester 70 30-06, never had or needed an AR style Rifle/carbine, thank you for the video Chadd hope all is well
my 2 cents ...I was army 11b m16 iron sights ... best all round for me ... but I'm sure the military has scope/sites built for duty these days ... I have a ar15 with iron and a dot its in no way built for duty ... y'all have a good one
I remember a video of them putting a Nikon pro staff 3×9×40 scope in a dryer. ( Your basic , do it all hunting scope) . Anyyyy whoooooo. They mounted it on a rifle, and it held zero. That was a good scope man. Too bad they got soft hearted about " guns " 13:57
For those with issues with red dot lenses fogging up transitioning when from automobile to outdoor ambient temps and humidity. I fixed that by adding a set of retractable side angled iron sights. Run about $140.00 for the set. For many older gunners with stigmatism red dots can be of huge help. Transitioning from upright rifle position and rotating counter clockwise to a 30* angle to irons believe it or not feels very natural an easy while being an effective means of fast target acquisition at closer ranges. Fogging problem solved.
Everything is about training. In high power shooting we use AR15’s out to 600 yards with iron sights or 4x scopes. CQC use your body to aim just like shooting pistol to get center of mass hits or just torso hit, you are not looking to score points, just to eliminate a threat. I have a 3x-12x scope on my carbine with angled adjustable iron sights with elevation drum as in a regular AR15 rifle. It is all about training with a chosen set up and how comfortable are you with the weight of your carbine or rifle. Nice presentation.
Helpful. I went the standard AR15 5.56 and a 7.62 AR upper to cover the shtf ammo issue, both running 1x6 with red dot on top. Having exact bore over height on both makes it a non issue 4.5" over target and you're good to go (forhead to nose, nose to chin. ez math). I also sighed the red dot in as close to parallel as possible no adjustment within 100m with a 3.5 moa dot POI is at 5 o'clock 1/2 dot low but that's what the lpv is for. I sleep good, pretty confident in my set up.
I only have an AR10. More precisely a german Haenel CR10. My chosen optic set-up is a Kahles K16i plus a Docter Sight 3 in an 45° angle. I have tried a lot of different scopes, but this set-up works perfect for me.
For me, I'm happy with my sig romeo and juliet magnifier combo on a 16 inch AR, works great up close or at a reasonable distance. If I were building a DMR I would go with an 18 to 20 inch AR 10 with a Lpvo scope, and offset back up irons.
With enough practice you can get pretty damn good with iron sights. My dad was able to shoot a running coyote with his 30-30 from quite a distance away. I'd say the longest shot I saw him make was at least 200 yards away. With an old fashioned lever action 30-30.
I still run one of my ARs with carry handle irons and a 4x scope on the carry handle mount. Serves the purpose. You can use the irons through the mount. Obviously I have more modern setups on other ARs but I always go back to my retro AR.
I agree with you on Iron sites, I do not know if common sense is implied so I would only add one idea to Iron sites, as I too stand by them in reliability: Train and be proficient with Iron sites as those of us in service did to a minimum of 300m. Maybe overlooked the Holosun 510c? With solar capabilities is a great option. Off of that, thank you and great presentation.
After years of red dots and dipping into the LPVO, I’ve decided I’m just gonna run fixed irons. Got a good ol carry handle on my Aero carbine. Keepin it simple. If I need range I’ll use a larger caliber rifle with an actual optic.
I used to hit the 300 m target 🎯 in basic training with the m-16 A-2 iron sight better than the 1x red dot I use now. Can’t ever sell good ole iron sights out Today even regular infantry get optics on the battle weapon. Back in the nineties we got iron sights lol
I run one with a Chevron sight that is etched in the glass, that also has canted flip up irons on the side. I also have one with a LPVO on it, and one 20-inch 1/7 twist that shoots 77 grain OTM's really well.
I got a Steiner 1-4x on a Black Friday sale for the price of a 1-6 x strike eagle - which I also have. The clarity, eye box, reticle design , fov, and even the weight were better with the Steiner to offset the lower mag power. I have old eyes and need the Magnification past 100 yards. Inside 100 yards - I am good with just a red dot.
I live in a urban area of Las Vegas. The purpose for my AR-15, is to defend my family against large groups of violent people, like in a war. The range that the weapon will be most used is short to medium, less than 200 yards. My choice for optic is a Fixed 3x Prism. It has a battery powered lighted reticle, with etched glass. It weighs 11 oz. It is a little bigger than a red dot. It has 5.5" to 6.0" of eye relief & a very big eye box. It is cheaper than a LVPO or Red Dot with a magnifier. The glass is very clear. I zero it once, set the diopter once & it is good to go, it is very simple. I have found the LVPO's in my budget are far from perfect at their highest magnification setting, too heavy, too big, have either not very good eye relief or small eye box or both, making them some of the slowest to get on target or make follow up shots. Red dots are great for everything, close range, but lack in power for farther shots. Magnifiers for red dots are too heavy, take up too much room & shrink the eye box & eye relief to worse than that of a LVPO. I know that there is no perfect weapon for all scenarios & the same applies to optics. For my purpose & budget, a fixed 3x Prism is the best compromise.
There is also the acog and aimpoint and there are considerations if you’ll be shooting with nightvision which isn’t most people. I’d imagine that a fixed power scope like the acog will be more reliable if it gets knocked around than variable power scopes. Aimpoints can be left on for years so batteries and having to remember to turn it on are less of an issue.
I’ve got battle rifles setup for close quarters (aimpoint with magnifier ), coyote hunting/long range (lpvo), ar9 for home defense/short range (aimpoint t1), and an eotech on my wifes, a holosun holographic site on my sons, etc.. but on my shtf rifle (if I only could take 1) I have an acog with offset holosun dot w/ solar backup. I feel this covers everything and doesn’t rely on batteries nor would it die if we/when we get a solar flare or emp strike. 4X magnification is decent and even with my astigmatism eyes I can see with it out to that 300-400 yard range pretty good. The offset red dot is perfect for up close. Love that combination. Id love to swap out the mpvo I have on my 6ARC build for the 1-6 or 1-10 razor lpvo. That has the best 1X I’ve seen on any scope and it’s about as bright as my aimpoints… love it
I use a primary arms SLX 1x on one of my rifles and a SLX 3x on my other rifle (both AK's with master mount quick detach mounts). I prefer the sheer reliability of iron sights, but a prism optic is good for what I do, and definitely helps.
I’ve had all the optics lol. My current and favorite is a SWFA 1-4x24 Milquad reticle it has etched reticle so works even with dead battery. At 1 power I can use it both eyes open just like a red dot or can shoot out to 600 yards or more due to ranging reticle but I just use 36 yard zero. Very clear glass.
I have several AR style rifles. My truck gun is a 16" M4 style AR15. I have it scoped with a fixed 5x Burris Prism scope. It does have lit reticle for night or low light, but does have a non lit reticle. My close quarters is a Sig AR pistol that has been converted and registered as a SBR with a retractable stock. It has a 10" Barrel, Light, EOtech with Co-witness flip up iron sights. My more expensive ARs a Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 Pro 5.56, with a 5-25x50 Precision scope, and a Seekins Precision SP10 AR-10 in .308, with either a 5-25x50 Precision scope or a IRay Rico MK1 640 35mm thermal.
Durn Man you could be my brother in laws twin. My wife walked in while I was watching you video & said she didn't know her brother was on UA-cam. Scary ain't it? Great video showing good old fashion horse sense that you don't have to have the highest dollar scope or red dot out there to make things work the way you need them to. Some of us are just poor ole country boys from the woods here in Tn.
Because of my bad eyes, for me my best optic setup that I am quick and accurate with is with fixed Troy iron sights with the HK style front sight and an absolute co-witness T1 red dot. I’ve always been a natural at shooting but that setup just improves my abilities a very noticeable amount.
Great video, I appreciate the comments about iron sights, I have tried fixed low power optics, 3-9, 4-12 or 16, red dots, with and without BDCs. My go to AR is an A2 with a 20 inch barrel like I had in boot camp. I love the iron sights.
I own a ar10 I have a cheap but good Simmons atec 4-10×40 and a little red dot on a 45. It is a hunting/range gun it works out real good. I really enjoyed this vedio so I liked and subscribed. I like the way u just tell it like it is no bs and puffing your chest out keep the vedios comeing.
I'm fortunate to have all on different guns. Scoped AR-10 and Mark 12. 16" ACOG and a couple EoTech's on my 14.5 and 11.5. Great video, they are all great depending on what your using them for.
As i sat watching this, it hit me why i like your vids so much. They are no nonsense, no "look at me, i'm a SEAL, i'm better than you" braggadocio. You are calm, patient and informative. I like how you break down the how and why of all things. That's important for those of us that don't just take things at face value, but always ask "why?" ( My Chief hated this in the Navy..lol) Thank you very much!
Much easier for someone just learning also to not have the hype and nonsense. Just information 👍
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You must have never been in a special operations unit and it tells... I was with 3rd recon/force recon and 2nd marsoc raiders and I can tell you with 100% honesty that real special operators are chill laid back and humble. It's the infantry dudes that feel they need to throw around their weight and act like they are badasses with an ego trip.
I turned down chief 3 times. Sorry, but they were far less than I already was. So I will lower myself to their standards, play their silly unproductive games, to prove that I meet their pathetic standards, but not really the Navy's? I read my commendations, from time to time. Captains, a Rear Admiral, many students. And my peers despised me. Training officers wanted to know the college I graduated from. "School of hard knocks". They weren't familiar that one. ;-) Teachers in school thought I was dumb, ASVAB 138, Navy declared me unlimited. Could have gone Nuke if my math was better. Funny that my IQ test said I was a Visual Mathematician. (139) I was cooking breakfast for 8 people while taking it. You learn to just shut up, because people don't like feeling dumb. And you're not allowed to kill them when they attack. Lately it seems you are not allowed to stop them from attacking you. Go rural and don't let them find you.
@@recon1986 Yes, they have a level of training that courts don't particularly favor. (Hero's were supposed to die)
And keyboard warriors are standing in line?!!
Country is done for now. Lay low till the flashover has passed and start anew with good people, good skills, and a Righteous heart. Sad, but true. But afterwards we can take the electronics out of the steel trashcans and throw a MOJO party!
Been a hunter in the PNW all of my life and a LEO, swat sniper, entry, weapons instructor etc.. I have lots of experience shooting 2.5x and 4x scopes non hunting rifles in thick woods as well as open sights (peep sights) in my early years.
Getting into longer range rifles and 3-9x and 4-12x scopes on bolt actions as I grew up in my hunting and LE.
Years later, I found that for me, a 1-4 is about all I need for my "emergency rifle". I can see a deer or bear at 600 yards on 4x and get quick shots at close range in thick dark timber for bear hunting on 1x. I use a Tavor 7.
I appreciate all that you do Chadd. God Bless and God Speed my friend..
I agree, a 1-4 with a 36 yd zero is about perfect for a quick handling go to rifle with an optic.
At this point 1-6x is so incredibly common and well developed that it's almost harder to find a 1-4x of whatever quality/features you're looking for. May as well just take the 50% greater top end zoom and run with it.
Nothing wrong with using a 1-4x, I'm more just commenting on the realities of the current tech and market.
@@1BeGe: You're correct of course, high power variables have become quite popular!
Now, if I were scoping an AR-10 and not a Bullpup .308, I would be looking at the high magnification LPVO's, for their obvious advantages... And that is a wholenotherdiscussion!
Mentions his 2000 dollar rifle but not what scope he was actually talking about. Quit with the dick swingin and tell me what scope you’re talking about
@@1BeGeYou can still find Steiner 1-4's, but they upped the price significantly. Also the Vortex Ranger(formerly the Viper Gen1), but yeah, all the new ones are getting stretched out. I have a 1-8, but prefer my 1-4 over it for 5.56.
I gotta say that as a guy who’s vision isn’t as sharp as it used to be, I have found that 1x6 and all the way up to 10x is not wasted on an AR15. When you can see 3x5 or similar size targets at 500m consistently, the extra magnification is worth it - not that it’s every day that one will shoot at steel that far - unless you’re on a 500 plus range daily. I currently use a Burris RT6 on a 16 inch.
It's more for target identification
US Service Rifle Competition proves that iron sights will produce results on par to magnified optics. The qualifier is a target big enough to permit the shooter to get a consistent sight picture. The 20 X 40 inch E type target can be engaged exactingly to about 600 meters. Of course when eyesight is poor iron sights will not get the shooter desired results but an optic in the 4 power arena will get the job done without the issues associated with higher magnification.
@@charlesludwig9173 I agree. A rifle’s inherent accuracy is not dependent on type of sighting system. It’s the skill of the shooter, not just the skill to see the target, but to get into a stable shooting position and apply the fundamentals. I learned the hard way when I went to an Appleseed event a few years back. Took a 10-22 with the recommended Tek Sights. I had trouble seeing the smaller targets due not getting my corrective lenses quite right - seemed to shoot equally poor when not wearing glasses or contacts. But what hurt more than anything was that I took for granted I still knew how to assume a good kneeling, sitting or prone and probably wasn’t as stable as I had been. Ive got one of their events in mind for the fall and have the summer to practice shooting positions again.
Burris RT6 is solid. Love mine.
@@charlesludwig9173 "On par to magnified optics" ...sorry, but nah.
It does prove that extremely skilled guys can use iron sights as well as average joes can use optics.
But skilled guys with magnified optics shoot those rifles a lot further than 600 meters, and often at targets smaller than 20x40.
Very very outstanding video. Clean language too. Thanks. Great job. Keep up the good work. SC Navy vet. 1965.
As a cop and working over seas I found the Eotech sight the fastest CQB sight I ever used. I never took a long shot with an M4. Now that I am retired I find a LPVO the best all around .
Any LPVO you have experience with + would recommend?
Which LPVO do you prefer?
Vortrex and Atibal makes a solid LVPO at a reasonable price
I've opted for 3x prisms for general purpose and LPVO's for longer barreled AR's. I'll take etched reticles or irons over battery dependent options.
But Ian and Krusty Karl at In Range gave the completey retarded take that iron sights are unnecessary and you should just trust batteries and electronics to always work! Now I’m confused 🥴
It’s funny cause I got gun bullied for rocking irons on my 2k plus rifle.😂😂
@@mrpatriot76 Dots are faster, it's a thing, but so is astigmatism and aging. Irons will always have a place in fundamental marksmanship.
@@syntaxerrorsix3137 gotta have both since electronics can fail and batteries die. Not to mention that if someone is rocking a $2k+ rifle and they can’t shoot with irons, then they need to invest money into training otherwise they’re just holding onto a rifle for their future enemy.
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 that’s what I tried to say but mid tier groups don’t wanna hear that. a red dot with a magnifier or ACOG wouldn’t be at all but I like irons I’m not trying to shot the fuckin moon lol I’ll end up adding something one day
As a former U.S. Army Infantry soldier, I’d like to share some additional insights regarding the first carbine that you discussed, specifically about the rear peep sight and the two holes on it. You provided excellent information about the smaller hole, and I’d like to add some additional information regarding the larger peep hole. In addition to its primary function, the larger aperture is particularly useful in situations where a shooter needs to wear a gas mask. It allows for easier target acquisition by enabling the shooter to cant the rifle at a 45-degree angle and still engage targets however there are CONS to doing this and they are as follows.... Shooting an M16A2 Rifle While Wearing an M40 Gas Mask( this one is particularly difficult for some shooters due to the Filter Cans placement)
>Shooting an M16A2 rifle while wearing an M40 gas mask requires some adjustments to your shooting technique. Here are some tips and tricks to help you effectively engage targets.
>Sight Alignment: The M40 gas mask can obstruct your view through the rear sight, making it difficult to align the sights properly.
>Consider using a red dot sight or other optic that allows you to keep both eyes open and acquire the target more easily while wearing the mask.
>Cheek Weld: Achieving a proper cheek weld on the stock can be challenging with the gas mask's face piece in the way.
>Adjust your head position and the stock's length of pull to find a comfortable and stable shooting position.
>Breathing: The gas mask's filters can make breathing more difficult, especially during rapid fire or stressed situations like running for instance.
>Practice controlled breathing techniques to maintain a steady sight picture and trigger control.
>Recoil Management: The gas mask may affect your balance and ability to control recoil.
>Ensure a stable shooting position, such as prone or supported kneeling, to help manage recoil and maintain accuracy.
Thank you for reading my comment. // RS
For me, the biggest benefit of an LPVO ( currently using the arrowhead 1-10 from Swampfox, amazing scope)
The biggest benefit is the ability to survey, and positively identify targets. On my take-to-war rifle, I have an Arrowhead and AEMS redot offset at a 45. Yes its clunky and added weight. But the 4 extra ounces dont matter as much when your already carrying kit with plates and a ruck. In Afghanistan most engagements I participated were all at 200+ range. This is the reason all us infantry guys love the ACOG. There is no denying the power of being able just SEE better at distance.
A budget 1-10 is a terrible option for PID as the glass quality is so poor that after about 100 yards or so you can’t really identify anything at max power.
"Go to war"
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Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I just got my first AR style weapon, it has no sights or optics mounted when I received it. This was very helpful to get me better informed and probably spending coin on something I would be disappointed with. Thank you for your service.
Never owned or shot a long gun except for a bolt action 30-06 when I was 12. I'm 66 now and retired and from the video's I've seen a truck Gun setup is what I'm thinking. I've learned a lot from your Videos. Thanks for your Help!
it’s awesome to hear you’re jumping into it with no real prior experience, it’s scary but rewarding!! Best of luck to you brother!!
I've practiced with every different type of optics in the past 4 years. Knowing the personal preference is also a path to realize myself, then bring up the weakness and sharpen the strength. Very nice video!
Dude, I love you! Finally, someone who understands weight to real world capability and the need for a single BU sighting system. I get so irritated seeing everyone over magnifying their platforms far beyond the capability of the platform itself. When I went to sniper school way back in 2001 or so, we only had the 10x M3A scope. I had zero issues locating and engaging at 800 meters out to 1000 using the M24SWS. As someone who fought in the mountains of Afghanistan, my kit from day one and day 365 were nothing alike. I learned to shed weight everywhere I could. I'm also a huge fan of using the offset irons. I prefer them over a secondary electro optic because if my primary electro optic or scope fails, then those irons will almost never fail and require no logistic support. I also believe they are so much faster than using a heavier QD style mount. Going to offset irons allowed me to cut weight on my primary mounts as well as the offset irons are typically lighter than a secondary optic with a mount. I'm in a ton of night vision groups right now because I'm wanting to pick up some more NV and I really, really think all of these groups need to be renamed; "Guys who love a lot of heavy over redundant shit on their rifles but who've never had to hump with it at 6500ft ASL." Rant complete. Keep up the good work my friend! Last point and I'll shut up. I also love that only one of your carbines is a shorty. I'm not a fan of the shorty 5.56 but they are so damn popular right now with people who've never done shit and won't listen to those who have. I only own one shorty for home defense and everything else is 16" and 20". God intended that .223 round to go fast and CQB is for suckers. I guess it makes for cool twatter range video tho. I can perform CQB if forced to just fine with a 16" platform by using retracted gun techniques and pieing dafuq out of a building. Best policy though is to never intentially get yourself into a CQB situation.
Great comment bro!!!
I don't own any guns (yet, I will when I finish school and get my money up), but to your point, from what I understand isn't 300 blk usually better than 5.56 on short (sbr) rifles? Better performance under 200 or so yards I think; perhaps the only downside of 300 blk for cqb is a higher chance of overpen through walls in home defense scenarios if I understand correctly? Obviously 300 blk chambered guns, and also SBRs in general won't do you much good in places that have higher end engagement distances such as Afghanistan, but it's something I've been considering for a future home defense setup.
@@bodenplatte1360 I personally don't get too far into the minutia of finding the perfect round. For me, at present, 5.56x45, 9x19mm and .308 are the perfect rounds. Not because they outperform everything else. In fact, it can be argued that .308 is being rendered extinct by the plethora of new long-range calibers. I continue to use those rounds exclusively because they do most tasks well enough, are inexpensive by comparison and are in very common use. When I was a much younger man, I was always striving to find the perfect round. It doesn't exist and if it does, a new king will come along and knock it off it's mountain in short order. Everything requires a tradeoff. In the case of 300BO you're sacrificing weight, cost and commonality. In the case of 6.5CM, I would argue the same, though it far outclasses .308. 6.5 Grendel is another good round but to get the most out of it, you really should run a 20"+ barrel but otherwise It's not as costly and at least shares some characteristics of .308 and 5.56. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 300AAC round but I would argue that 7.62x39 is just as good for the money. Thus, addressing the commonality issue. It won't suppress as well but it performs just as well from an SBR. If you have money to blow then you can chase the perfect round to your hearts content. I've already been down that road and wasted tons of money. Money that is better spent on training, training, training. Because a well-trained man with an SKS will outperform the tiktok ninja with his 4K AR and no training guaranteed.
Mjolnir - FINALLY! the voice of FKN reason. thank you.
What the first guy said. CQB is not ideal. 5.56 shorty's are not ideal. Avoid if possible.
I enjoyed this topic. There are tons of things out there that will improve your business end of a long gun. I think Chadd just narrow the process down quite a bit for a bunch of shooters out there.
Good job!
I have 3 pretty similar setups: LPVO + canted irons, LPVO + canted rds, rds + flashlight/green laser. The rds + laser is on an 11.5"; rds has solar panel & shake awake to help mitigate points of failure. Green laser as back-up bc quick target acquisition in CQB (though not always ideal) and - most importantly - bc I had one laying around. Sometimes, that's how it goes.
Went with an LPVO because I wanted to maximize the effectiveness of the .223 round. I felt a red dot would be limiting the rifle and my eyes are bad. Tried with an offset red dot but I felt no advantage but rather bulk. The LPVO at 1x is fine for close up.
I’d just like to add that an advantage of a canted sight vs over the top is that you can lay your rifle on top of whatever you choose as “cover”, be it a vehicle or wall etc etc, and you have a lower profile.
I also have a 16” upper and a 10.5” that are setup exactly the same, lpvo with canted sight. I feel like that would be beneficial as far as muscle memory goes, despite the fact that the 10.5 isn’t going to reach as accurately as the 16”
Love your videos… no nonsense and straight forward
Finally someone with experience and a level head on UA-cam. We all owe you a big thank you for your service and your attitude. Thank you.
I qualified 39/40 with iron sights back in the day, also I was taught to shoot with both eyes open for target acquisition and distance perception, I would go for iron sights first choice, second would be the scoped 308
Impressive. Almost Eagle Eye. I got 33/40 Irons in Ft Jackson during the morning. Damn near impossible to see the 250 & 300 with the shadows from those tall ass trees.
You can run both eyes open with any of the setups he showed. I have a 1-8 lpvo I run in competitions and I shoot both eyes open.
On your scoped 308, what do you use if I can ask?
Wow! My armalite was a gift from my wife. Factory sight. I'm ok out to 200''. At 100' I 'm good. I don't have training for anything else. Just a country boy that used to hunt. My father who was in the Pacific in WW2 taught me how shoot his M1 when I was about 12. (safety etc.) Why I love this channel, to watch, listen and learn!
Awesome reviews of optics that straight to the point. A big fan of irons sights also and having BUIS. Amazing how many people I see run a carbine with an optic such as a red dot and not have BUIS let alone training with irons.
I am big fan of ACOG’s for my 5.56 carbines. Shooting both eyes open (bindon sighting) helps maintain situational awareness and really works at distance with BDC.
My preferred for having just one rifle is a red dot and a magnifier with a qd mount. Red dot is optimal for home defense and the magnifier allows to stretch my effective range further and allow better ID on potential targets.
Tritium inserts for both front and rear and the absolute very first thing that I acquire for any fire arm I own. To be able to see the sights without turning on the flashlight is so worth it. I always I mean always focus on the reliability of the irons. Because when the worst gets to the worst those red dots will be long dead or broken. And the tritium irons will still be glowing.
I went with an ACOG for the same reason.
Not to wreck your theory it’s a good one but you realize tritium has a life span of maybe ten years
@@jeffmurphy9987 That's on paper. I had a Tritium compass that was still going strong as over 25 years.
The tritium won't work if there's an Emp.
I love to hear you speak on REAL AF! Merry Christmas and stay blessed
I just got my first ww-15. I have iron sights and that’s all I need. Red dot at the most. Like he said, distance wise I’ll use something similar the ar-10. Love your vid. This is the first one or second I have seen. I read some comments and I agree. You are not on here rubbing the “I’m a SEAL”, all in our faces. We know seals are bad ass. Army rangers etc. I love and respect everyone that served and or is serving. This is our home and we protect our home. Very informative style video very much helped me with what kind of optic I was gonna put on my WW 15.
Starting to get into your videos as they’re pretty much straight to it. All my carbines are setup with etched 1-6’s with iron sights for just in case but highly doubt I’ll ever use the iron sights but they’re there. My 308’s are setup with 1-8 etched scopes and my pistol AR15s are setup with etched red dots. I prefer all my sights being etched reticles as they’re impervious to an EMP or dead batteries but most of all etched scopes and red dot sights are awesome for people suffering from many different eye problems such as Cataracts etc. . Thank you for taking the time to make this video as it’s extremely informative and that being said I’ve just subscribed in hopes to see more no nonsense straight to the point videos. Good luck and God Bless 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
For me, it’s all about the rifles purpose or use. For my home defense shorty AR, I use a simple red dot. On my 14.5” i use a EOTech with magnifier. 16” is 1-6 LPVO with micro red on top. Finally on my 18”, I have a traditional scope. I live in a suburban/rural area so some magnification could be handy in a (insert SHTF fantasy here) scenario.
I pretty much have mine built out for under 250 yards. I have a red dot magnifier combo as well. Fun thing I have is the CMMG 22 conversion kit. Its almost 100% for 22LR and its a blast. It takes about 30 seconds to switch it out. So I get two guns for one.
What round do you use in your shorty AR? Do you have neighbors nearby or around your home? I am very curious about people using ARs for home defense. Do you worry about over penetration for your interior walls?
@@Ykapur69 My house is brick, kids are upstairs, I sleep downstairs, and neighbors aren’t very close. I personally use 55gr Hornady TAP but there is plenty of good 5.56 made for defense out there. Just stay away from 62gr green tip as it’s made to “penetrate” solid objects. At the end of the day, you’re accountable for every round and ANY bullet (including pistol and shotgun) is going to blow through several interior walls so you’ve got to know your angles and backstop. Unless you’re using light birdshot out of a shotgun and that’s a whole different argument. Best way to reduce over penetration is hitting your target so train, train, train. Hope this helps!
@@Ykapur69 the "FBI load" is the best from the tests that I've seen.
My favorite back in my SF days was the old school colt 3 power that mounted on the carry handle- also could see iron sights under it..On my carbine setup I have a red dot w magnifier. On another a 4x nikkon scope. Its all apples and oranges. Also have become a fan of lasers for close range.
Id like to see a review of NVD/thermals which will be my next upgrade.
I agree with Lasers at close range.
I agree 100% with the advantages of iron sights. That is what I trained with in the military over 30 years ago. I keep my first AR with iron sights closest to me and I love it. My second choice is a pistol with a Vortex 2MOA red dot with iron cowitness backups. Very fast target acquisition and reliable. Thank you for explaining your reasons for each weapon. Your advice is sound.
Yay, when I began driving everyone has a standard transmission, that’s why I like 5 speed, said nobody
@@zodaguado6655 And I love my Muncie 4 speed in my Corvette as much as I do my iron sights.
@@zodaguado6655 Most simply can't drive a manual. It takes practice and skill. Like shooting.
Thanks for your bravery and videos no one can deny your thought you done what most could never do or see,I’ve always told people I wished I could have been a seal so much of what a great man should be thanks man
DD5v3, VCOG SCO (1-8), AFG, Troy Irons with HK style front, BFG strap, surefire light/switch setup. I have a bipod I could carry with but don’t.
Pretty solid all around utility rifle that just works.
Always utilize offsets to maximize effectiveness. After practice, the transition is very easy and more intuitive than you would think.
What about a Prism scope ? , with a etch Reticle like a ACOG . Extremely reliable and not dependent on batteries it’s another option after iron sights. that’s good to go 👍
i agree with you on needing multiple carbines with different optics!!! now im showing this video to the wife!!! thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge in a way everyone can understand it!!! not like most that say "my way is the best/only way to do this" thank you sir for your service & making these videos!!
Generally speaking, most people would be fine with 1 or at the most 2 rifles. Short/tactical & long range.
This is what I'm going to do. Setup one rifle with LPVO 1x-8x for long range and a second more lightweight rifle with just a red dot or something for short range.
One other thing to add is a micro dot mounted at twelve o’clock can be shot from a weak side left side hold. A forty five not so much.
Hello Chad, this is Will from Ala & I just wanted to know what you think about holosun reflex sights with shake awake & solar back up power? God bless you sir & thanks for your service to our country.2A all the way 🤠 God bless the USA👍
I'm just a noob and I run your std Romeo5 raised dot on my AR9 shorty. The AR15 has my first scope, a 1-6x FFP ACSS Raptor ballistic reticle that incorporates a canted dot using the Swampfox scope mount. Now I'm having a blast ringing steel out to 400 yds. Hoping to put together a 6.5 Creedmore budget long range rifle when the deals hit come November. As a Navy vet I get a 30% discount at Swampfox which makes those $400 scopes way more affordable 💸💰💵
We used irons on our m16s in the marine corps, 500 yards all day long , center mass no problem.. we took a simple platform and turned to gadgets.. it was a light weapon! If you practice with irons it becomes 2nd nature.. I’m guilty of it.. love your channel 👍😊🇺🇸
Your 500 yard targets are about the size of a jeep tho
@@ShitboxFlyerthe paper is 6’x6’ to see misses. The silhouette at 500 is 20x40”.
@@ShitboxFlyer I shot the Type E silhouettes with iron sights on an M14. It didn't matter how close or how far, they are the same size all the way out to 1000 yards.
NATO E-type Silhouette Target. total height 101.6 cm (40.0 in) total width 49.5 cm (19.5 in) head height 25.4 cm (10.0 in) head width 21.6 cm (8.5 in)
Just wondering how do you know what you're shooting at from 500 yards away? Irons might make sense in a deployment setting but optics are absolutely pivotal on a civilian rifle.
"I highly recommend having more than one carbine rifle" Amen brother. If one is good, two is gooder. Love the magnified sites, haven't used a Holo yet but I do love the etched reticle ACSS sites. Gracias amigo.
Great video; on your LPVO with offset RDS could you share what distances you prefer to zero your LPVO and the RDS? What technique do you use to zero the offset RDS? Thanks for all your videos--they are both informative and entertaining--you keep it real.
Great video! GarandThumb's guest in their video on AR combat ready optic configs explained why he liked canted better in military operations: the benefit of a canted vs top mounted red dot is you can maintain your cheek weld and not have to move your head. I imagine if you can get your canted sight to the same radius as your long range optic you can make a quicker, more consistent adjustment back and forth this way.
Appreciate the info and perspectives Chadd! My preferred set up is holographic on top and flip up 45 irons. I find that with practice and keeping my eyes on target the transition is smooth.
That’s two short range sights tho
i went the 2 birds, one stone method. got an NC Star 3-9X42, with a mini red dot up top for both range, and close quarters. had zero issues so far
As a Marine grunt (0311 OIFOEF) we shot at 500 yards with iron sights hitting head shots. Iron sights are severely underrated by civics, especially with CQB. You’re not using any sights at close range, the body keeps the score
Great info, sir! Recently bought a 12.5 Ar-15, iron sights are so entertaining to use that I am not in a rush to buy a scope
But was that on targets on a flat range or was that just a head sticking out from cover behind foliage or a wall in Afghanistan? Big difference. Huge difference. Target identification is extremely important.
thats a great point@@_Delta_P_
Head shots at 500 with iron sights😂 maybe once out of 40 attempts, but hey you still did😂
Yeap. We qualify at 500 yards with irons…. Well back in my day.
Now they use acogs to qual…. Damned cheat codes 😂
KNS PRECISION AR-15 FRONT SIGHT CROSSHAIR HOODED.
I love it, when you get out beyond 200 yards, you don’t loose your objected point.
My Eotech 512 had gone though hell and back. I’ve trusted my life to it.
EO tech is alien tech….its fantastic!!!
the best setup is the one you're most effective with. Great video, very informative. I've been pointing guys who wanna ask me 1000 questions when they find out I shoot long-range to your videos. For the love of all puppies go watch one of these guys that understand this stuff. I trained with an M-16A1 in boot camp, in another century in a different millennia, decades ago.
All I ever used in the Marine Corps was the RCO and iron sights, other than that I don’t know anything about optics. Thank you for this video, i learned a lot
Same! Deployed with irons and eventually switched to an RCO. Still use irons on my ar. If it’s good enough for the USMC it’s good enough for me. Semper Fi,
check out the primary arms 5x acog its relatively inexpensive compared to other optics and is just as good as the trijicon acog in my opinion. Might like it and have the irons with a fixed a2 is what im using right now. Its pretty nice.
Thanks for posting this. A couple of months ago, I must have seen this video. Because I checked out my PCC red dot. Since we can't get the rifles we want in Massachusetts (and not being rich), my home defence PCC is a modified High-Point 9mm carbine (w/Aluminum rail & new trigger spring). Which is super reliable with ball ammo.
On top is a low cost auto-wakeup 2MOA Red-Dot that needed to be about 8mm higher, so I could shoot in a more Heads-Up position. It's faster to get on target now, and more comfortable on my 77 year old neck!
After that, I had to check the Red-Dot on my little TCR22 carbine (it was on sale cheap).
The red-dot (actually it's a auto-on green-dot) was installed on the Low mount. Close to the bore!
I had to get-down on the cheek-rest (weld it) and it was also a bit slow getting on target.
I reinstalled the sight with the standard AR height RD mount and it's great now.
Faster, and the Heads-Up position allows me to shoot .22LR with my ear-muffs, Without the stock comb pushing up on my headset. That one benefit, made my day! (Lost much of my hearing on a 5"-38 open gun mount as 1st loader).
I'm not worried about the height-above-bore problem because of my years of short-range shooting practice. I use a .22 PCP (Benjamin Marauder Pellet Pistol) for rat-control at ranges of 4 to 40 yards. I've used red-dots and currently a 3-9x BugBuster on this little PCP. I shortened it's stock for better neck comfort. Now it looks a little like an SBR!
I've got the hold-over nailed. Shouldn't be hard to carry over this skill to close-in self-defense work with a high mounted optic on a PCC, or even on .223 or .308 Self-Defense rifles.
It might be a good "Hold Over" drill for pistol range shooting with the AR15 (with a .22LR adapter?)
trying to keep it in the x-ring, while moving the target from 4 to 40 yards in 2 yard increments.
Thanks for your service. Keep up the good work!
Great discussion on optics/sight options for our carbines. I'm a big fan of lpvo due to the versatility...most of my carbines have one, but a handful have a red dot or holographic sight. I'm not tried any sort of offset red dot or iron sights.
I think it depends on where you are at, I live in the suburbs now and would have to stand in the middle of the street for a shot to be over 100 yards. A red dot sight is perfect for around here. Where I used to live something up to 6X would have been fine. I have a couple of each though, I have back up irons on all my rifles but 60 year old eye sight does a lot better with optics.
The good thing about Iron sights, is that anyone can use them without much training or practice. No eye box, fast acquisition, and "bullet proof." With that being said, I'm running an ATACR 1-8X24 and a backup RMR on a 45 degree cant on my rifle.
Razor 1-10 and a 45 offset t2 on my go to. Don't know how I feel about it yet.
I'd say a red dot is the simplest. Look, see dot, shoot. Irons you at least have to line up.
@@mikehoncho4637 Love it, especially when I forget to turn the Razor illumination off and it dies before I take it out again.
@@davidb9323 lol I feel you. I just got the set up and it is great. A little heavy and a little clunky around body armor or lbe though. I really don't turn on the dot in the scope unless I'm out getting coyotes or hogs so that isn't the biggest deal for me right now. Cheers from New Mexico.
So did churning your own butter get with the times and stop agreeing with bad ideas
I like the way you do things. I come from the Era of the late 1980's to the Early 1990's Era of the NSW Community. We did not have the Customization Options that NSW has since I got out. What we had to use often came from the Civilian Market and was basically Scopes for Hunting rifles. It is good to see the Evolution of Optics since then. And I have to agree with your recommendations. My father who was in the Highland Regiment of the British SAS and was TAD to the U.S. training Navy S.E.A.L.s and other U.S. Military Spec Ops and Army Rangers, had the same Philosophy. Of course he strongly advocated the Use of Room Brooms i.e. Shotguns for Clearing a room When you knew there were no Civilians in the line of fire. Anyway Great Post, people need the kind of helpful information that you are providing in such a professional way. 😊✌️❤️🇺🇸
Chad is the man
Running a Kel Tec Sub 2K Gen 2, 9mm, Burris Fast Fire Three on one and a Sig Sauer Romeo Five red dot on the other, both co witness with the front sight, and 18 months of daily use in a computer laptop bag. God bless, thanks and stay safe and healthy!😁
I prefer the canted red dot versus the red dot over scope. I find I would lift my head up to look at the dot when mounted above and loose cheekweld on the weapon. The canted I can keep everything in line and just role the weapon into my body to transition from Scope to Dot For me it was quicker and more accurate.
I think I’m still team red dot on top of scope. In theory anyway. I still only run one optic with back up irons. It seems like people are running hydras and high mounts anyway. I wonder how important cheek weld is at red dot distances anyways. But who knows. To each their own.
@@fishinforfun3359 So I agree cheek weld at red dot distance probably not that important, I meant it more so of having less head movement for quicker transitions and consistancy for me anyway
Thank you brother. Straightforward, informative, everyman, no nonsense.
As a Swiss SIG 550 man myself, I must say that scope and bipod .308 setup is sweet.
I was thinking iron sights for my AR-10 battle rifle. The problem is good quality iron sight cost almost as much as a Vortex scope.
@@hanc37 lmao no they don’t
What is the .308 carbine he has?
@@user-pf6wl4hv5j they totally do man, im pretty sure im going to order the daniel defense fixed sights or the scalar works fixed sights, and for 100cad more i can buy a vortex prism scope.
They actually can. He’s not talking about the cheap flip ups that’s included in the price of carbines. When you start looking at iron sights like diopters or other iron sights that have been comfortable and consistent from 300-600 meters, you’re looking at at least $200.
Great video, Sir.
I use LPVOs and red dots on several of my carbines as well.
If I had to pick one setup to use over all else, I'd likely end up with a 16" 5.56 and a 1-6 or 1-8.
I feel mastering irons first is the way to go , can always add an optic but irons are universal
Great information. I have a Holosun HS403C on my rifle. It's high enough to get a sight picture without canting my head, but low enough to be accurate inside 25 yards. It has a circle dot reticle, which I find easier to aim quickly, with my bad vision! (Yeah shooting and bad vision are not two things you want to hear at the same time! Lol)
In my area, a “truck gun” would be stolen in 5 minutes
Vehicle break-ins is the top source of stolen guns in USA.
Smh the times we are in. Damn Dems
The only Ar15 i own is a 20" m16a4 "clone".
It has a Eotech and 5x nagnifier. I use the Magpul mbus rear sight. I love the rifle and the optics combo.
Fixed iron sights are solar powered.
Essential knowledge for all types of shooter's. Glad I ran across your channel!
Before my boating accident, I preferred a low to medium powered scope an eliminated reticle and BDC adjustment. I also ran a pressure pad light that had a laser option. DANG BOAT!!
Dang, I feel you. I had a similar boating accident, such a shame.
I have suffered this fate as well, boats are a menace.
Boaters end up in government camps
Tragic, tragic boating accidents... I lose way too many weapons while out on the lake / gulf / sea / river, due to that dang boat.
I have Vortex Defender Red Dot, Vortex Spitfire, Vortex Strikefire, other Opticals are 3-X9 scope, 3-X12 scope, and a 6X24, I bought the S&W M&P FPC, trying the 3 Vortex and 3-X9 on the FPC, Range days are a hoot, 3-X12 is just there top shelf in the hall closet, the 6-X24 is on Winchester 70 30-06, never had or needed an AR style Rifle/carbine, thank you for the video Chadd hope all is well
my 2 cents ...I was army 11b m16 iron sights ... best all round for me ... but I'm sure the military has scope/sites built for duty these days ... I have a ar15 with iron and a dot its in no way built for duty ... y'all have a good one
Get yourself something quality my dude. 👍
I remember a video of them putting a Nikon pro staff 3×9×40 scope in a dryer. ( Your basic , do it all hunting scope) . Anyyyy whoooooo. They mounted it on a rifle, and it held zero. That was a good scope man. Too bad they got soft hearted about " guns " 13:57
For those with issues with red dot lenses fogging up transitioning when from automobile to outdoor ambient temps and humidity. I fixed that by adding a set of retractable side angled iron sights. Run about $140.00 for the set. For many older gunners with stigmatism red dots can be of huge help. Transitioning from upright rifle position and rotating counter clockwise to a 30* angle to irons believe it or not feels very natural an easy while being an effective means of fast target acquisition at closer ranges. Fogging problem solved.
MRO for CQB! Hooah!
Neat but doesn't work with night vision well
Everything is about training. In high power shooting we use AR15’s out to 600 yards with iron sights or 4x scopes. CQC use your body to aim just like shooting pistol to get center of mass hits or just torso hit, you are not looking to score points, just to eliminate a threat. I have a 3x-12x scope on my carbine with angled adjustable iron sights with elevation drum as in a regular AR15 rifle. It is all about training with a chosen set up and how comfortable are you with the weight of your carbine or rifle. Nice presentation.
Helpful.
I went the standard AR15 5.56 and a 7.62 AR upper to cover the shtf ammo issue, both running 1x6 with red dot on top. Having exact bore over height on both makes it a non issue 4.5" over target and you're good to go (forhead to nose, nose to chin. ez math). I also sighed the red dot in as close to parallel as possible no adjustment within 100m with a 3.5 moa dot POI is at 5 o'clock 1/2 dot low but that's what the lpv is for. I sleep good, pretty confident in my set up.
I only have an AR10. More precisely a german Haenel CR10. My chosen optic set-up is a Kahles K16i plus a Docter Sight 3 in an 45° angle. I have tried a lot of different scopes, but this set-up works perfect for me.
For me, I'm happy with my sig romeo and juliet magnifier combo on a 16 inch AR, works great up close or at a reasonable distance. If I were building a DMR I would go with an 18 to 20 inch AR 10 with a Lpvo scope, and offset back up irons.
I have that one also....it's the only optic besides iron I'm leaving on it's lined up w my irons to
I believe that just like firearms, every tool has a purpose, optics are not exception. Right tool for every job.
Love the video brother, as I just picked up a Springfield Saint Victor 5.56 16" with pop up irons...
With enough practice you can get pretty damn good with iron sights. My dad was able to shoot a running coyote with his 30-30 from quite a distance away. I'd say the longest shot I saw him make was at least 200 yards away. With an old fashioned lever action 30-30.
I still run one of my ARs with carry handle irons and a 4x scope on the carry handle mount. Serves the purpose. You can use the irons through the mount. Obviously I have more modern setups on other ARs but I always go back to my retro AR.
This really helped me decide how to setup my new HM Defense AR-15. The 1-4 with Red dot on top.
I agree with you on Iron sites, I do not know if common sense is implied so I would only add one idea to Iron sites, as I too stand by them in reliability: Train and be proficient with Iron sites as those of us in service did to a minimum of 300m. Maybe overlooked the Holosun 510c? With solar capabilities is a great option. Off of that, thank you and great presentation.
Great vid, with non of the normal b.s. that a lot of videos like these have. Navy finally did something right. :)
After years of red dots and dipping into the LPVO, I’ve decided I’m just gonna run fixed irons. Got a good ol carry handle on my Aero carbine. Keepin it simple. If I need range I’ll use a larger caliber rifle with an actual optic.
I used to hit the 300 m target 🎯 in basic training with the m-16 A-2 iron sight better than the 1x red dot I use now. Can’t ever sell good ole iron sights out
Today even regular infantry get optics on the battle weapon. Back in the nineties we got iron sights lol
I run one with a Chevron sight that is etched in the glass, that also has canted flip up irons on the side. I also have one with a LPVO on it, and one 20-inch 1/7 twist that shoots 77 grain OTM's really well.
I got a Steiner 1-4x on a Black Friday sale for the price of a 1-6 x strike eagle - which I also have.
The clarity, eye box, reticle design , fov, and even the weight were better with the Steiner to offset the lower mag power.
I have old eyes and need the Magnification past 100 yards.
Inside 100 yards - I am good with just a red dot.
Nice videos. I like that you don't talk around the subject. You get straight to the meat and potatoes. Thanks Brother!!
I live in a urban area of Las Vegas. The purpose for my AR-15, is to defend my family against large groups of violent people, like in a war. The range that the weapon will be most used is short to medium, less than 200 yards. My choice for optic is a Fixed 3x Prism. It has a battery powered lighted reticle, with etched glass. It weighs 11 oz. It is a little bigger than a red dot. It has 5.5" to 6.0" of eye relief & a very big eye box. It is cheaper than a LVPO or Red Dot with a magnifier. The glass is very clear. I zero it once, set the diopter once & it is good to go, it is very simple. I have found the LVPO's in my budget are far from perfect at their highest magnification setting, too heavy, too big, have either not very good eye relief or small eye box or both, making them some of the slowest to get on target or make follow up shots. Red dots are great for everything, close range, but lack in power for farther shots. Magnifiers for red dots are too heavy, take up too much room & shrink the eye box & eye relief to worse than that of a LVPO. I know that there is no perfect weapon for all scenarios & the same applies to optics. For my purpose & budget, a fixed 3x Prism is the best compromise.
There is also the acog and aimpoint and there are considerations if you’ll be shooting with nightvision which isn’t most people. I’d imagine that a fixed power scope like the acog will be more reliable if it gets knocked around than variable power scopes. Aimpoints can be left on for years so batteries and having to remember to turn it on are less of an issue.
I’ve got battle rifles setup for close quarters (aimpoint with magnifier ), coyote hunting/long range (lpvo), ar9 for home defense/short range (aimpoint t1), and an eotech on my wifes, a holosun holographic site on my sons, etc.. but on my shtf rifle (if I only could take 1) I have an acog with offset holosun dot w/ solar backup. I feel this covers everything and doesn’t rely on batteries nor would it die if we/when we get a solar flare or emp strike. 4X magnification is decent and even with my astigmatism eyes I can see with it out to that 300-400 yard range pretty good. The offset red dot is perfect for up close. Love that combination. Id love to swap out the mpvo I have on my 6ARC build for the 1-6 or 1-10 razor lpvo. That has the best 1X I’ve seen on any scope and it’s about as bright as my aimpoints… love it
I use a primary arms SLX 1x on one of my rifles and a SLX 3x on my other rifle (both AK's with master mount quick detach mounts). I prefer the sheer reliability of iron sights, but a prism optic is good for what I do, and definitely helps.
Amazing reticle, too!
An ACOG RCO 4X, Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5X and 2.5-8X, Aimpoint Comp M4S, or Aimpoint T-2. There ya go! Nothing better than Larue mounts under each.
Absolutely beautiful. Great advice with so many different options out there.
I’ve had all the optics lol. My current and favorite is a SWFA 1-4x24 Milquad reticle it has etched reticle so works even with dead battery. At 1 power I can use it both eyes open just like a red dot or can shoot out to 600 yards or more due to ranging reticle but I just use 36 yard zero. Very clear glass.
I have several AR style rifles. My truck gun is a 16" M4 style AR15. I have it scoped with a fixed 5x Burris Prism scope. It does have lit reticle for night or low light, but does have a non lit reticle.
My close quarters is a Sig AR pistol that has been converted and registered as a SBR with a retractable stock. It has a 10" Barrel, Light, EOtech with Co-witness flip up iron sights.
My more expensive ARs a Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 Pro 5.56, with a 5-25x50 Precision scope, and a Seekins Precision SP10 AR-10 in .308, with either a 5-25x50 Precision scope or a IRay Rico MK1 640 35mm thermal.
Durn Man you could be my brother in laws twin. My wife walked in while I was watching you video & said she didn't know her brother was on UA-cam. Scary ain't it? Great video showing good old fashion horse sense that you don't have to have the highest dollar scope or red dot out there to make things work the way you need them to. Some of us are just poor ole country boys from the woods here in Tn.
Because of my bad eyes, for me my best optic setup that I am quick and accurate with is with fixed Troy iron sights with the HK style front sight and an absolute co-witness T1 red dot. I’ve always been a natural at shooting but that setup just improves my abilities a very noticeable amount.
Great video, I appreciate the comments about iron sights, I have tried fixed low power optics, 3-9, 4-12 or 16, red dots, with and without BDCs. My go to AR is an A2 with a 20 inch barrel like I had in boot camp. I love the iron sights.
A2, Just like I had in USMC Boot Camp.300 meter BZO.
I started out with the A1, transitioned to the A2 in the fleet. The sights are much better on the A2.
@@clayjones9907
I can tell you know what you're talking about, I subscribed. What you're doing in this video is the kind of thing I do almost everyday.
I own a ar10 I have a cheap but good Simmons atec 4-10×40 and a little red dot on a 45. It is a hunting/range gun it works out real good. I really enjoyed this vedio so I liked and subscribed. I like the way u just tell it like it is no bs and puffing your chest out keep the vedios comeing.
I trained with iron and never had a weapon with gizmos. I am way behind in the 21st Century. This was very good and informative. Thank you
I'm fortunate to have all on different guns. Scoped AR-10 and Mark 12. 16" ACOG and a couple EoTech's on my 14.5 and 11.5. Great video, they are all great depending on what your using them for.