VSCode & MS Edge problems, Fedora KDE might keep X11, Wine on Wayland: Linux & Open Source News
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00:00 Intro
00:33 Sponsor: Learn about live patching your Linux systems
01:37 VSCode drops Ubuntu 18.04 without notice
03:23 Edge grabs Chrome's browsing data without consent
04:59 Fedora 40 KDE might reconsider dropping X11
06:37 Thunderbird plans to add native Exchange support
07:47 Wayland & Wine get big improvements
10:15 Red Hat's licensing changes hurt their ecosystem
11:52 Gaming: HoloISO goes immutable, Mesa 24, Linux marketshare
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VSCode drops Ubuntu 18.04 without notice
www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/v...
Edge grabs Chrome's browsing data without consent
www.theverge.com/24054329/mic...
Fedora 40 KDE might reconsider dropping X11
pagure.io/fesco/issue/3165
www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-...
Thunderbird plans to add native Exchange support
blog.thunderbird.net/2024/01/...
Wayland & Wine get big improvements
www.phoronix.com/news/Wine-Wa...
www.collabora.com/news-and-bl...
www.phoronix.com/news/Wayland...
Red Hat's licensing changes hurt their ecosystem
www.phoronix.com/news/CentOS-...
Gaming: HoloISO goes immutable, Mesa 24, Linux marketshare
www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/01...
www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-24...
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It's okay to drop support for certain older systems/hardware, but not letting anybody know beforehand is kind of a d move
It was mentioned in the release notes of August last year.
Also an unsupported lts version. Two versions old, soon three.
I was confused why this was an issue in the first place (why would people still be running 18.04 on their workstation?) until reading and realizing it's because vs code is running remotely on servers... man web development is something else.. is that really ideal?
@@olnnn Nothing against web devs. But since lockdown, I moved out of web-dev to 100% backend engineering and it made my life lot easier, mentally healthy.
@@olnnni think its because plugins require a local dev environment so they are installed on the server, using them over the ssh pipe would be more complex
@@2greenify Yep absolutely. In the changelog of v1.82 they mentioned it like this: `Prebuilt binaries from the official Node.js repo for Linux are now compatible with Linux distributions based on glibc 2.28 or later. This would mean dropping support from our servers for Ubuntu 18, CentOS 7, RHEL 7, etc. [...] so we advice our server users to update their OS versions if they are affected by this change.` I hate Microsoft but when we have lots of reasons to hate them, why create fake ones? TLExp should fix this misinformation.
Hopefully, the Thunderbird developers have recognized the writing on the wall and are gradually turning Thunderbird into a fully-fledged replacement for Microsoft Outlook.
Therefore making TB even more enterprisy as it already is and ultimately equally unusable as Outlook? No, no thank you.
@@chrishuhn5065 Microsoft Outlook is usable enough for large enterprises because they use it, though they could afford any other software instead.
There should add native support for google and icloud calendars and contacts. I don't think a lot of normal non-tech people will adopt it until they don't have to install TBSync and then create developer credentials on google and setup Provider for Google Calendar and set up CalDav and CardDav plug ins. Its just not ready for civilians with all that mucking about.
What do you mean by "enterprisy"? In what way is it enterprisy? @@chrishuhn5065
@@cuevob this has been my experience exactly. That and too much legacy cruft and irritating defaults, even with the supernova redesign. For example, the “integrate with windows search” setting appears to do nothing and should be removed unless they’re willing to fix it in my opinion, and you have to go into about:config to make the default mail sort be newest on top. Y’know, how every other mail client does it.
Hey Nick. I rarely write anything. But I am glad you keep doing these videos.
Genuinely one of the greatest Linux news sources.
I admit I visit Brodie sometimes if there is something super in depth. I came to the conclusion for me. Your 2 channels have a good synergy.
Thanks a lot! Brodie is awesome for some super in depth exploration, yeah!
All current and upcoming immutable distros seem to be based on different technologies to function, it would be very interesting to contrast and compare these 😀
Love the news as usual !
using a Tuxedo Ultrabook since over 1 year. It is no special but a great workhorse and very lightweight. Now my mother got also one with Tux Os, she likes it very much. Support is great
VS Code END OF SUPPORT was ANNOUNCED in the release notes of august last year.
Ubuntu 18.04 was END OF LIFE in may last year. Two LTS versions old, soon three LTS versions.
Release notes August 2023:
Prebuilt binaries from the official Node.js repo for Linux are now compatible with Linux distributions based on glibc 2.28 or later. This would mean dropping support from our servers for Ubuntu 18, CentOS 7, RHEL 7, etc. We are now shipping a custom build of Node.js for our Linux servers to maintain glibc 2.17 or later compatibility. This support will change in future updates when we are no longer capable of building newer Node.js versions on CentOS 7 images, so we advice our server users to update
Yeah, that should have been a warning or pop up before applying the update. No one reads release notes, and they know it
This is literally the situation from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "We've put a note that we're going to destroy the Earth to build the space interstate in a neighboring solar system fifty years ago. It's your fault for not reading that warning"
Edit: I've changed my mind in a later comment
@@TheLinuxEXP Real developers read release notes ;). But jokes aside, I don't think it was on purpose. Don't forget Ubuntu 18.04 was EOL last year in may.
It's almost 3 LTS versions old, than you should expect things to break.
@@TheLinuxEXP"No one reads release notes, so MS is abusing market position and you shouldn't use VSCode" that's basically what you're saying and I think it's a big leap of logic... Release notes are enough of a warning, it's possible to use older versions, or update everything. It's not as big of a problem as stated in the video
@@annoorange123Using VSCodium is so much better then using VSCode. I still don’t get why people haven’t switched.
YESSSSSSSSS!
Thunderbird with Exchange. Finally I can jump out of Outlook. That thing is an absolute arse.
Compared to proton and gmail, outlook is alot tidier and better.
@@JW-jd6sn What don't you like about Proton Mail?
@@JW-jd6snfor my work email?
Huh ... you'll have to show me their desktop apps, mate!
I use tb for years now with exchange.. some plugin out of germany makes it happen
Gmail is the worst email platform ever, you can't have an organized inbox with gmail
The Steam hardware survey is also just for one device, so possible people one month got their Linux device surveyed then another their Windows device.
But it will still be nice if Valve got Steam OS back as an option for other manufacturers like it was during Steam Machines. Maybe with open source Nvidia drivers improving they will more easily be able to so partners aren’t locked into Intel and AMD GPUs.
Don't see why it's not possible now
@@kreuner11 I would think Steam OS 3 should just work with AMD and Intel CPUs/GPUs given the open source drivers should work on those hardware. But it's possible there is some issue that Valve wants to fix we just don't know about, where the main focus has just been for the Steam Deck.
Valve hasn't said anything so it is purely speculation as to why it hasn't happened.
Nvidia GPUs are the most popular ones so it would make sense to be able to use them if they want to target as many people as possible and as many manufacturers as possible.
They could also make the official proprietary drivers work on Steam OS like other distros do but it does require more work than just sticking to the same open source drivers as they already use.
@@AndersHassthey probably don't want to support a big user base with all of different configs just yet. They would need to make the OS more generic, get a dedicated team or give it to some third party, maybe to KDE team?
@@MindBlowerWTF the HoloISO community team did just close their first distro to then have an immutable one instead. So maybe the intention for it to be the official way to install Steam OS 3 on any hardware and they maintain any issues instead of Valve directly themselves being responsible for it. Which as you say can be a big burden and probably why Valve hasn't released it. Then Valve can focus on their own products and potentially any partners that want to officially ship Steam OS with their device.
Microsoft is stealing data from chrome!!???? I’m glad I use Firefox also I think vs code should’ve warned people who still were using that old version of Ubuntu for some reason… but eh vs code is still better than visual studio
Yeah they definitely should have given a warning
@@TheLinuxEXPoh really? you will not be able to run the latest versions of vscode while you still run an age old ubuntu version? what a horrible thing to do MS, shame on you ^^
I can't use Firefox, but what Microsoft is doing with that Chrome to Edge thing would seem like malware, because, well, it kind of is! 😂
I feel like comparing VS Code to Visual Studio is apples to teapots. They're different products altogether. I couldn't imagine my normal day-to-day workflow in VS Code. Likewise I couldn't imagine web development in Visual Studio.
@@bubi352 It sounds to me like an innocent mistake - someone updated the dependency without realising that it would break old ubuntu servers because the tests didn't run on that version.
The visual studio end of support wqs mentioned in the release notes of august last year. Enough time, especially considering it for a outdated LTS version. Two version old, doon three lts versions.
Release notes August 2023:
Prebuilt binaries from the official Node.js repo for Linux are now compatible with Linux distributions based on glibc 2.28 or later. This would mean dropping support from our servers for Ubuntu 18, CentOS 7, RHEL 7, etc. We are now shipping a custom build of Node.js for our Linux servers to maintain glibc 2.17 or later compatibility. This support will change in future updates when we are no longer capable of building newer Node.js versions on CentOS 7 images, so we advice our server users to update
That’s just not the way to warn about this. You display a pop-up or a warning, or you block the auto update for the version with a message asking the user to confirm
@@TheLinuxEXP I get where you are coming from, but this is for VSCodes on local machines that might not be even remotely related to any server that this would affect. Your suggestion would imply sending that popup to literally every VSCode install that there is, since those *could* remote to servers that are running one of those now unsupported distros.
Edge and Chrome are built upon the same code base as chromium. It's not a surprise they share the same storage path for caching and browsing history.
I've been using VSCodium for a few weeks now and it's awesome. Just wondering besides turning off the telemetry by default, does it also remove any proprietary MS code blobs from the code base?
I’ve been using VScodium instead of VScode and it’s great!
Codium turns off the spyware by default just like Cracked Minecraft launcher which is nice. Pity we have to resort to these to get good products but hey, balls in their court
I would assume that codium will also have this change when it's updated, it's the same codebase, just without the spyware
@@jbritain I was using vscodium the other day and it failed the same as vscode
@@pluggedcloud7180 you had warning in release notes, time to upgrade.
@@jbritain yeah that sucks, but I still very much enjoy codium. I also use Fedora so I am unaffected.
9:12 Dockable tabs and dragging and reattaching tabs to windows is an issue with OBS and its Docks on Wayland. I mistakenly dragged the Status dock out of the window one time will screen-recording with OBS, and the only way to re-dock it was to close OBS, restart it under X, dock it, then go back to Wayland and never touch it.
Same, it's also a problem with most KDE apps
@@jahinzee Makes sense, since OBS uses Qt
I 100% agree with the last bit about how the steam deck is one of the few things driving desktop Linux forward. We need more killer apps / products that make people want to give Linux a shot.
Got myself a Tux with Distros cup, and Nick uploads another awesome video! Can't this day get just any more awesome?
I decided on getting a Tuxedo. I guess the many sponsorships finally wore me down!
I'm not sure about Firefox since I haven't used it in awhile but I can say that it was really quite annoying to accidentally drag a tab out of Google Chrome just to have it immediately crash when I tried to drag it back into the window. I would have to copy the URL, close the window, open a new tab in the original window, and paste the URL. It recently (within the last week) started working for me so I'm really glad that this protocol is gonna be a solid foundation for stuff like that.
For some extra context, I'm running the official Google Chrome package from Google on Fedora KDE with the chrome flag for Wayland over X11 enabled.
Wait, hold on, there are people running VSCode on *servers*?
Actually that's a good point. Why would you run VSCode on a server? Particularly since most servers don't have a GUI
vscode server runs in workplace vm/server farm. I ssh into it from my windows laptop to access our codebase. Very common in larger companies that do development in Linux but email, messaging, meetings etc on windows.
re: Linux market share of Steam decreasing... here is at least one tiny gamer who switched from Windows to Mint recently! and i'm mind-blown at how well gaming works now, compared to when i first tried Linux 10 years ago. i've had to do a few minor tweaks to get certain things running, but a game as huge as Baldur's Gate 3 on Ultra settings is actually running BETTER via Steam/Proton than it did on Windows! and all the small indie games i love have worked out of the box for me, too.
Oh sweet! Not all apps as you say have the tabbing/dock/undocking issue for me either, Firefox is just fine for example, but OBS has never worked well for me in this regard, docking and undocking aaaalways broke stuff. Hopefully this'll fix that. Thanks again for the weekly update.
I feel proton has been a double edge sword. Devs lately just relay on proton for linux instead on doing native ports.
The VSCode issue, don't actually have a problem with it, however, they could have communicated the change better.
Oh yeah. No problem with dropping an old system, they just should have warned users beforehand, in a very visible way, not as a line in release notes
How do you lock yourself out from accessing your servers by updating your text editor? Vim has never destroyed my ssh keys...
I think it's for remote vscode instances. Not the full server
Exchange support in Thunderbird is a very welcome addition!!
The pop-up crashing being taken as a yes is definitely BS from a programming standpoint. Any dialogue box would return either false or nonetype if it was closed or crashed. The “setting” is just permanently on, and the dialogue box does nothing to affect it, period.
Its the same thing they did when users Xed out of the Win10 "upgrade" on Win7 (with updates applied by default). They woke up to a Win10 infection wondering where Win7 went.
We manintain a software made for Ubuntu 18.04. The software uses legacy simulation software which won't work on newer versions of Ubuntu. Since, we a part of a university, we need funding to move the things to newer OS. So yeah, we will stick to 18.04.
What do you use for notes? Whats an decent open source desktop app alternative for Notion?
Obsidian
@@chrishuhn5065 Obsidian is great, the devs ship quality and have a good philosophy on data ownership. But Obsidian is not open source - the community plugins are, but the core product is not.
@@chrishuhn5065obsidian is not open source
@@chrishuhn5065 I love Obsidian as the next person, but Obsidian is not open source
@@chrishuhn5065 Sadly it's not open source, but other than that it's pretty good.
Oh no! My 5 year LTS from 2018 has no support in 2024!!!!!!
It’s not that they dropped it, it’s that they didn’t warn about it at all
@@TheLinuxEXP Except that they did, 6 months ago. If half the people in the comments can read the release notes, surely the people managing a long term support packager at Canonical can...
I did also notice that AMD has a larger market share in the Linux Desktop market than on Windows. Why is this?
10:16 *Insert the Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme here.*
This example is exactly why you shouldn't have anything updated automatically
This. Thank you.
You really shouldn't in a production environment but if you were also updating your OS (which is a 2 version old unsupported LTS. If a LTS is not supported anymore there is a reason to it.) then you wouldn't have any problems. As a rolling-release daily-driver I have only had a problem once and that was easily fixable by restoring a backup, checking update list to see what may broken it. Found out that I was unnecessarily using a -git package for a critic system library as dependency from another -git package which got broken with a massive critic update because other packages hadn't been updated according to that update yet. Got rid of the -gits and fixed it. So as long as you are not using active development packages like -git packages you should be pretty much safe in my experience and opinion.
But the only meaningful way to avoid this is to read change notes on every update and hope breaking changes are disclosed. And the longer you defer updates, the worse it is to understand what you're changing.
Or never update, which comes with a bunch of other problems.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 This was mentioned in the change logs for VSCode in August 2023, which VSCode automatically shows on major updates unless you specifically disable it.
@@NekkoDroid But who reads all of the update notes prior updating to the latest version? Maybe I'm just lazy, but it seems like the norm is to push updates first, and ask/explain what changed later, at best, for the curious.
I’d switch to nvim or emacs if I can figure out how to do multiple cursors. Mainly leaning towards nvim.
On the emacs side, rather than vanilla I recommend spacemacs or doom emacs that use evil mode which makes it more similar to vim.
In vim you can't. Closest built-in is Ctrl-V mode. There are plugins, but they tend to break as normal-mode in vim is not exactly made for that.
There is also helix editor, which relies on multiple cursors, but it doesn't support plugins.
I really wonder what is a really good and recurrent usage of multi cursors in a text editor?
To me it sounds like a bad habit?
@@Grouiiiiik Lol what? Extremely often in math where you need to operate in the same way on .X and .Y, extremely useful to generate printing print("foo=",foo)
print("bar=",bar) from some variables
Changing several lines in similar fashion is very common.
VS Code is an excellent code editor and it's really no wonder it took over so fast when compared to what we were using before it. I prefer the JetBrains IDEs for anything heavy (Java, C++, anything more than a simple python script, etc...) but vs code is great for scripts or small projects. VS Codium isn't quite the same (the open source version) mainly because it doesn't have all the same extensions such as the one to connect to remote servers via ssh. I am all for VS Code removing older operating systems as how the heck are they going to move the product forward if they keep hanging on to obsolete software. Also, they did tell people in the patch notes last year in August. It's not their fault if people can't read. Also, I hate MS as much as the next person here and will never use Windows but VS Code is a great product and I don't see that they did anything wrong here.
Thanks for the news about VS Code. This doesn't just break Ubuntu 18.04. It also breaks RHEL7/CentOS7 hosts. I had to downgrade vs code and prevent dnf from updating it.
It depends on what is broken by VS Code. If you can't use the feature where you connect VS Code to your old Ubuntu server via SSH to for remote dev or remote debugging, then yeah it's terrible. If it's just that you can't launch VS Code IDE ON the server (but can still do remote dev via SSH) then I'm a bit more sympathetic to the VS Code team.
Can't wait for the day I can just game on native Wayland.
About MS Edge. I tried so hard to like it, but MS insisting that Edge should be the only you ever need approach, down to not being able to uninstalled at will, killed it for me. Edge could have been my dedicated browser for Google services but in the end, I chose Vivaldi. MS intrusive approach to what I can install on my PC, I do not endorse.
I'm also on edge but planning to move to vivaldi but I'm still thinking because of bing copilot.
i really hope fedora goes wayland only, it's a bold but beneficial move for the future
It's going to happen eventually, we're just ironing out the last kinks 💙
@@fedora thank you for blessing us with your great distro
@@fedora me encanta vuestra distribución. Lo único que el audio no me funciona correctamente en huawei matebook 14, conecto los cascos y se sigue escuchando el sonido no se mutea, también faltaría el rescalado, se ve todo muy pequeño en gnome y a 200 muy grande, mil gracias y saludos
Thank you.
so an rtfm from the vs code devolopers as it was in the change logs, but a more prominent warning would be much better. Still kind of a historical backfire regarding how often you get a rtfm from the linux community.
For the one with the edge browser and data upload not permissioned by the user i guess it does not take long before lawyers will go collect.
Does VSCodium work on 18.04?
Thanks.👍
Smol potential correction at 11:04 - the hyperscale sig rebased on Fedora not because of the source restriction issues, as stated in the comments section of the phoronix article that was originally reporting the issue.
Specifically:
“The actual reason for changing had nothing to do with Red Hat and everything to do with that we started needing things that newer kernels provided and I do not have the time to do crazy amounts of backporting work. With the new open source NVIDIA stack coming, the only reason for me to hang back evaporated. So now we don't.” -Alleged Hyperscale SIG guy
The kmod thing is real annoying, though. Hopefully there’s some better solution people can come up with.
I'm in the process of switching to a version of Fedora Silverblue and it's so nice. There some hurdles and adjustments but it's so much more efficient on my hardware.
Glad to see our Atomic editions working well! 💙
@@fedora I love that you guys watch this channel and reply to people's comments!
I might switch from Debian 12 to Fedora KDE Spin soon, it's a really hard choice though lol, I love Debian, but Fedora has newer packages! :3
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what, i connect to a cento os 5 machine with vscode it doesnt fail and thats not supported either. what fails is the compile, just add the old library back and compile with that....
your introduction sounds so microsoft. yes, i totally & wholeheartedly agree with u!
If it isn't already on your radar, please I would love news about the progress of file-sync solutions for linux. I recently went crawling back to windows because I could not find a good solution for onedrive/dropbox. There are some open source projects making progress, but they aren't yet up to the standard I would like to see. Why aren't players like dropbox doing first party support? Thankyou for your videos :)
Microsoft did this a few years back with Firefox. It would import Bookmarks into Edge and then ask if it could. I switched to Linux.
Wayland is rocking with new updates from Firefox and Thunderbird, after years of subpar performance its now faster than my window side. Thought it would never come. I sure do appreciated now.
It has almost a year passed after the end of the release support. Even though MS didnt warn people should have been migrated already.
I remember that after an windows update there was a prompt (these blue screens with new settings after reboot) from Edge to sync with other Chromium browsers and do this regularly. I of course declined. Maybe someone did not read what they were accepting? Either way this is not something I want my browser to even suggest
I don't really understand how development on an old Ubuntu server with VSCode works. Do you just connect to it via SSH or how is this done? I mean, what kind of workflows and tools are affected?
Wayland doesnt support automation libraries properly. currently switching back to x
Hey nick! Always liked your videos, but as a developer (et en tant que compatriote 😉) I can assure you that escaping VS Code is very hard these days. The open sourced version - VS Codium has a very poor extension support, as it does not use the Microsoft store, obviously.
What you are left with is Jetbrain’s IDEs, which are marvelous but expensive, or if you’re doing something like iOS/macOS development you’re probably using Xcode.
your company should buy jetbrains' ides foi you no? even so, you could still use the personal version
@@diegoaugusto1561 in fact they do. I was not talking about myself but rather developers in countries where 149€ is a big deal.
Yep exactly what you said here, VSCodium has bad extension support
I suspect everyone pays way too much attention to the Steam survey numbers. Personally I use my Steam account on any one of five different PC's, with each PC triple booting Linux, Windows and MacOS. Of course I think that's probably pretty niche, but when you're paying attention to 0.1% kinds of numbers then all the people dual booting Linux and Windows have to be having a significant impact surely? And that's without counting the people who game on a Linux based Steam Deck AND then switch to a Windows gaming PC.
Ubuntu 18.04 is EOL for almost a year. A warning message outside of release notes would be overkill for something that affects almost no one.
MS does shady stuff but that's totally blown out of proportion.
It absolutely wouldn’t be overkill, 18.04 still has extended support active from Ubuntu for another 2 and a half years
Good old rust, nothing beats that
Microsoft LOVES its users, which are companies who buy our data. We’re mot the users, we’re the product.
Oh noOoOo mY dAtA reeeee!
The Mesa driver still has the same power management bug (freeze when switching power states to a lower one) unfortunately the one that is even present in the windows version and in the Linux's AMD version of the driver for RDNA-3 cards.
There is a temporary band-aid fix for all of these but meh.
Haven't used a Microsoft product in years now and that feels great! 😂
Same here!
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Still don’t get why people are using VSCode, while VSCodium is available, and doesn’t act like spyware.
"Golf Clap". If you work for a company that uses it, you will use it or you will not work for the company. If you are a contractor, again, you will abide by the wishes of the client.
@ernestoditerrible Well for 1, VSCode has Live Share, afaik VSCodium has not? But I'm using VSCode less now that coding in Java got botched on my side, maybe its related to this? I will check the versions and glib version
Not sure how Ubuntu’s commitments to long term support are other software vendors’ problem. Vscode is available as open source, if an upgrade upstream breaks something, it is the distros problem, and responsibility to hold that software at a working version. Shame on canonical for releasing untested software to its lts contract holders
glibc 2.28 updates seem to be rolling out all over the place as NodeJS also jumped on this.. 2.28 was released (I think) sometime in 2018...?
So I have a few questions:
- If there is some big comp. break between versions 2.27 and 2.28, please do tell what versioning scheme is being used here?
- Where in earth can I find an actual changelog opening the breaking changes between the two?
- Where can I see an official list of CVEs in glibc versions? (The lists I find are absolutely scary)
only thing I feel is absolutely wrong in this is that the vscode update is updated automatically for most users.
Now I could be wrong here, but every time I get on vscode it ASKS if I want to update. I always click no personally, just due to it working for me and I haven't come across any bugs/errors/etc...
I want to add on, I have downloaded vscode on multiple machines old, new, spun up vms. and it is all the same across the board. so that's my experience with it currently. Maybe there is a setting that is not on by default that "most" users have decided to turn on? I don't know.
Anybody who has automatic updates enabled on Ubuntu has never worked in the Enterprise. And decent systems administration should already know to stop and disable automatic updates. Patching needs to be scheduled. Downtime means loss of productivity, possibly loss of customers and therefore loss of revenue. There should always be "Dev/Test" servers for this purpose, not to mention nightly snapshots for rollback.
Absolutely! I have done this even for my workstation, updates only Friday night after the backup routine has run, and only if I'm 100% sure no one would need me for any emergency, otherwise only on Saturday afternoon.
I got this habit when I had an Nvidia GPU and ended up with a broken system three times after a kernel update. The worst is that in two of those three times, I needed the system working right away; in one of them I had a meeting in a couple of minutes, and in another one the production was on fire, and I had to deploy a hot fix as fast as possible.
Now with an AMD GPU, this is not a problem anymore, but keeping this habit saved me a couple of times from other issues.
Had to do a clean Windows installation and I can confirm it's true. Microsoft upload the Chrome fav tabs from a previous W10 install even when I uncheck the import Chrome config option 🙃
I guess Ubuntu 18.04 users could also use the snap VS code package.
That’s what auto updates :/
Apparently ssh is kinda the problem here
@@TheLinuxEXP But shouldn't the snap ship its own version of glibc, thus not breaking itself?
Thunderbird is great and all, but it cannot run in the background and actually notify me of incoming emails like every other client does. That's why I want an email client in the first place.
why it does not? if the client is open it does. no client if it is closed will notify you
@@John7No Geary on Linux can do it, Outlook on Windows can do it, Gmail on Android can do it. All without requiring interaction.
10:03 i have this issue of draging tabs on firefox... but im pretty sure i'm on x
I don't get why the 700 MB CD size limit exist on Fedora. I mean if they want to stay below a certain threshold, I can understand. But why is CD the factor which decides the upper limit? Why not 1 GB in example? Are there computers out which only have a CD drive and no DVD? I could understand if we was speaking about a very specific slim version of the regular Fedora. But why has the standard edition able to fit on a single CD? Hell, why not 2 CDs?
Pulsar works for me. some call it dead, but it works just fine.
This video doesn't use the word "segué" when introducing the sponsor. Is this a first?
i can understand dropping lts 18.04 but vscode remote ssh extension should keep supporting it!!
Good NEWS
I suppose that people using Ubuntu 18.04 can still use the snap or flatpak version. Am I right?
Anyway, great video as always 😊
I know why i love my Jetbrains IDEs
VS Code also drops CentOS 7 support, which I think is a bigger issue since there are tons of servers still running on it
How does this affect servers? wouldn’t people doing anything in these servers access the files in their own machines through SSH or something? (genuinely asking, IMO there should be no impact, but if there is, I’d like to know)
@@Dhekranh VS Code has a SSH extension that allows users connect to a remote server while using it. This recent update not only bump the minimum system requirements for the user end, but also the remote end. So even if I'm using a Ubuntu 22.04 PC, I still could't connect to a CentOS 7/Ubuntu 18.04 server.
Isn't it understood when you run LTS that you'll be using older versions of things?
mesa 24 is already in rawhide, so yes will be in F40
I see glibc as the problem, they should figgure out a way to allow users to target newer versions while still staying compatible with older ones. also you can just build vscode or vscodium(fork without ms shit) yourself for an older glibc
About this edgy action, this is why I use Firefox 4:33
Microsoft did this a few years back with Firefox. It would import Bookmarks into Edge and then ask if it could. I switched to Linux.
@@Freggleland I'm about to do the same. But I just unninstalled edge for now. I don't have a pendrive to create a dual boot right now and I'm dying inside because of theat lol
Edge comes preinstalled and the hassle of uninstalling it is not for most people, so easiest option if Edge copying addresses from Chrome is an issue to someone is not to install or use Chrome. While IE has never good, Edge was much better from the beginning. Over time it has developed a lot and since they started using same engine as Chrome I decided to try it and today Edge is, to my surprise, my favorite browser. After Edge, using Firefox or other alternatives like Chrome feels a bit like using a browser from five-ten years a go.
2:57 as a Windows user im totally agreeing with you, Microsoft please end support for all vscode versions of Linux, there is no need to spend your resources for audience that has < 3% os market share. Now they can use editor like emacs or atom, lol
Not just the browsing history. It imports the plugins from Chrome as well. And of course when you go to install Chrome on a Windows system that doesn't have it already it tries to talk you out of it.
It forced me to do the upgrade of my server which I've had on my todo list for a while.
I unfortunately have to use Windows for my university project since recently (Unity doesn't support openXR on Linux yet) and boy is it an awful experience to come back to. I'm very glad I live in the EU and can at least enjoy the regulated version of Windows 11 soon, which makes it half decent.
@@dreaper5813 Not really, a virtual machine won't give me enough performance to develop and run a huge VR project and I doubt VR devices will work well through the virtual machine
@@dreaper5813 That's pretty cool and good to know for the future when I switch back to Linux. However for now I'm but a poor student and my PC barely handles Unity VR as is.
Afaik the rule that forced Microsoft to give the user choice of browser on first startup had a time limit. That ran out a few years back. MS even turned that off prior so they had to pay a few million dollars as a fine (which is nothing for a multi billion dollar company) and that was it. Though at least in the EU there are now some ruling about Windows under the DMA. But what baffles me is that neither MS Office - especially since Teams - and iPadOS haven't deemed to be gatekeepers. Even if you believe Apples BS about iOS and iPadOS being separate systems, the thresholds for being a gatekeeper are actually quite low. You only had to have a turnover of 7.5 billion € and and a user base of 45 million monthly active users and 10,000 yearly active business users for the last three years. I'm surprised that allegedly neither of them supposedly met both thresholds with ease.
I'm no fan of MS but you can't blindly expect them to support a free program on an almost 6 year old OS when almost 3 newer LTS (and even more non-LTS) versions are available just because the OS maker is still supporting the OS.
Hello, I don't mean to be indiscreet, but what's your nationality? I ask because I'm learning English and your accent is really easy for me to understand compared to others!
I’m French :)
Ah, je comprend mieux ce sentiment de familiarité 🥲
Totally agree. His English pronunciation is especially clear, easy to understand.
@@TheLinuxEXP je me disais bien à l'accent
I'm casual user of V S code but don't really use it, I'm old school I use Lazarus(Delphi) instead.
I sometimes wonder if Microsoft and Apple are the same company, or at least working together to make everyone switch to Apple.
If the NVIDIA thing happens on schedule, and they get their keybind support fixed, I'll finally be able to migrate over.
Not announcing they were going to drop support is of course a no-go. However, ubuntu 18.04 reached EOL in April of last year and now only has ESM support; 20.04 was released nearly four years ago at this point, giving a long enough grace period for most cases to upgrade. I think it is generally fair to stop supporting a platform at this point.
Can you make a video about KaOS Linux ? 😃
The alternative I suggest is Lapce or Emacs or NeoVim
It's a pity that Microsoft Edge is not included in Linux by default.
- said no one
I got scared for a minute
@@TheLinuxEXP lmao same
You might want to keep an eye on Pulsar, it is a fork from Atom that is almost ready
Partly in thanks to this channel, The SteamDeck (not purchased but the upswell of developments from it), and Microsoft's continued path, I have taken the jump to Ubuntu. I last used it from the 2012 release (back when Steam was first officially supported) and now I'm back. And I have a lot of things that can help new people trying to move from/between Windows to Linux and almost just as many things to say to the Linux community to help gain people (Goals for additions/changes).
People (lazy) who neglected to read the release announcement six months ago were caught off guard by the VSC upgrade. These may be the same individuals who rely on VScode to connect to a production server without implementing a proper staging policy. 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️ Perhaps they're also the ones who criticize MS but continue to use Canonical disto.
Furthermore your rant, as always, provided amusement for everyone in our office. Thank you for being such a jester.
3:41 Sounds like malware to me! 😂
We can say it's a security flaw too. Why not encrypt user data to prevent this kind of thing?