I bought a Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle in 1979 and a Lyman great Plains Rifle in 1981, both in .50. Thousands of RB's since then and they still shoot great. More accurate than I can see these days. Nice video. Buncha guys having a day at it.
A very good video I fell in love with the Hawken rifles when I was 10 years old, watching the movie "Jeremiah Johnson". In 1988 I bought my first Hawken from Ardesa (Traditions) in caliber 50. Now I have the Hawken Rocky Mountain of Pedersoli in caliber 54 and a Hawken Woodsman of Ardesa, also of 54. I have bought all the books in the United States about the Hawken rifles ("Thanks Amazon") and I want to write a book in Spanish about these rifles. Greetings from Spain.
I built my own a few years ago. I wanted something different. It has a .54 Green Mt. barrel and a Siler Flintlock. Early on, some Mountain Men didn't trust percussion caps. I also made it full stock. I made the hardware (buttplate, sideplate, thimbles, trigger guard and nosecap), from steel. Good shooter.
those Green Mountain barrels are great I have a Long Range Hunter .50 Cal. Barrel on a old T/C Hawken and it is deadly ,I took a Big doe at 280 yards with it shooting open sights off hand ,double lung hit.I gave that rifle to my son
@@stevendeatley4878 wow, that's great. One thing I like is that they drill the bore before they cut the flats, so the bore is dead center. Hope your son has as good fortune as you.
@@OldJoe212 Thank you,he has taken a few deer with it ,when I went to our local rifle range with it just before hunting season.the range was packed with hunters useing inline rifles with scopes and I was the Butt end of all the jokes being the old weirdo with a side hammer,lol after shooting my 1st 50 yard shot dead center thru a quarter size hole ,I put the next shot thru the same hole then I started putting all my bullets in a walnut sized bullseye at the 100 yard line ,and I asked the one guy who had been talking the most trash why he was using a rest for his scoped inline.lol because i was shooting off handthe whole time one guy hollered and asked why diddn't I put a scope on that rifle and some body yelled back at him and asked does it look like he needs one.lol .I had to rib them guys a little ,and when they asked why I wasn't useing the shooting rests .I told them those tables was hard to find where I hunted and too heavy to carry with me. the first deer I got with that rifle was on the last day and I had hunted all day and walked out of the mountain to a friends house who fixed me a hot cup of coffee and when he walked out with me he peeked around the end of his house ,then he motioned for me to walk over and he whispered "shoot the little one'' there was a big Doe and her yearling out beside his barn .so I dropped the smaller deer in its tracks and he had a old T/c grey hawk in his hands ,but he never fired ,he just said if you can get that thing reloaded I will use it mine won't shoot that far just when I handed him the rifle the old Doe ran.
Built a Hawken from a Lyman kit many years ago, love it when I am at the range and out shoo the kids with their Ar's and all sorts of optics. Then again, a .50 make big hole, so it does not take many rounds to carve out a good group.
Both are cool. I do prefer the Flint however. The cap rifle existed for such a small time period between Flint and cartridge. Flintlocks dominated a large portion of firearm history. The Hawken is a great piece to have however.
Love my Hawkins.54 cal Cabelas. My thunder stick. 90 grains triple 7 all day long . Great video .The hell with black tactical guns. Love living in the past these were the original assault rifles lol. Great video.
I picked up a well worn CVA Mountain Rifle, which is more like a Hawken then the actual marketed CVA Hawken rifle. The lock was worn out so I replaced the lock with one from L & R. It now shoots great and I redid the barrel/stock to go with it and have been very surprised for a CVA how good it really is.
Some really nice capotes in your vid also good Sir. Cap and ball are really nice but still a Rocklock fan at hart. You gents looked to be having a great time. Hard to find many traditional shooters here, they mostly go for those inline deals. 😕😕 Good day to you good Sir and safe shooting.
ive bought a few old used CVA mountain rifles and re-worked them a bit. I think other than the trigger guards and pewter nose caps their pretty close to a "Hawken" their great shooters too. CVA is what got me started in this addiction ..I mean hobby
Great vids, accompanied by wonderful music. Really enjoy my Lyman GPR, .54 caliber flintlock. Very accurate rifle. Wish I had more opportunity to shoot it.
Your videos are very well produced and a joy to watch. I just ordered a Rocky Mountain .54 from DGW and can’t wait to air it out here in the Colorado snow. Meantime I subscribed. Thank you, and please keep your videos coming.
Past years took 1st place in a primitive rifle match with a Thompson New Englander patch & ball. A few years later took a fine Six pt buck in the Hiawatha National Forest same out of the box rifle in Yooper land. 😃😃👍🏻👍🏻🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸
Had i .58 and a .54 many years ago. Took mule deer and elk with both when i lived in Colorado, and used my .54 to take hogs,whitetail deer and a few black bears in georgia and north carolina.
What were you shooting patched round ball or mini ball. I have a Cabelas 54 cal and love it. I shoot the deer slayer mini ball with 90 grains triple 7, my thunder stick.Also how many grains were you guys using. Great video.
She's a straight shooter for sure.....Check out my channel,You'll find it.still haven't made a vid of me shooting it but you'll see what I did with it.I think you'll like it.
I have one in .50 I put a Lyman Hunter barrel on it and it is deadly accurate.I ordered the barrel from Midsouth Shooters Supply,a few years ago.it has the 1 in 32 twist and works great with sabots or the T/C Maxi Ball
I love new guns but there is nothing like looks of these old black powder guns and firing them. They are beautiful and can be very accurate. It's just too bad they are a pain to clean.
1:55 - I found a little ironic humor in that the shooter was wearing a BCM cap, and shooting a Hawken Rifle. Two very different firearms, both of which I appreciate. I'm looking forward to Friendship, Indiana.
@@floppinfish As I said, "which I appreciate." My point was, those are 2 very different types of firearms. So addressing "allowed", goodness gracious YES! *I encourage it.* Thanks for your post.
In their day, the Hawken was as fine a rifle as any in existence and highly prized. As rifles progressed from the flintlock through the Kentucky rifle design, the Hawken emerged as the one that best delivered accuracy, range and larger calibers. Of course, modern technology has greatly improved the muzzle loading rifle through inline systems. The Hawken is now a relic that - as a shooter - is still lots of fun, but it provides only marginal reliability.
I just located a .54 caliber half sock "plains rifle" with a single trigger and a flat butt plate made out of plastic, modern plastic sights. Its selling for $130 in my local gunshop. I used to know a guy who could take a junker like that and turn it into a decent plains rifle. Would something like that be worth it?
I love the style these men have. I just acquired two Hawken rifles recently (May 4th, 2019) both in shooting condition, as well as most of what I need to get started. I've got the guns, now I've just got to look the part. This video, of course, makes more rather happy to have gathered such firearms and desire to carry on the tradition.
I swear, every time I go to one of these there is at least one guy who shows up in jeans! (It’s me.... I always show up in jeans, and no, not period correct denim, the stuff that goes on sale Black Friday at Bass Pro Shops).
"Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! Wunnerful video! How my ol' (80!!) heart aches to shoot my custom .58 Hawken again before I pass on (like "croak"!)! Mine was made for me by Andy Fauthuree (of Muzzle blasts Magazine) in 1968 when I was a 28 year old bachelor. MASTER craftsmanship!!! Beautiful Curly Maple stock; 32" × 1&1/8" Bill Large barrel (round ball twist); hook breech; gorgeous case hardened set triggers; gorgeous case hardened AL Osterman coil spring caplock; 2 candy striped ramrods; brass trim. Yes, it's a "HEAVYWEIGHT" (great for very heavy powder charges if you want - from "mices" to "beek" Mooses!!) & really "hangs in there"! The barrel is a very very beautiful satin finish rust brown, perfectly EVEN in tone from breech to muzzle! Never have seen another even close to its beauty! My best OFFHAND 5 shot group at 100 yards was 6&1/2" overall, with 4 of the shots in a 2&3/8" or 2&1/2" group!!! I was never a great shooter either! Had to be God's predestination for my shooting career! Paid in total $300! Wish I would have ordered a Hawken "flinter" as its mate!!! "Gesundheit" und pass da "Lutefisk" poleaze!
My big mistake was selling my .54 calibre Thompson Center Hawken a few yrs back. One consolation is I now have a TC Renegade, at least it's made in this country. After watching this, I wish I could get out and shoot for an afternoon, or multiple days. By the way, can conbustable paper powder charges be used to save time?
YES check internet, only thing is they are no longer made here, unless you build one yourself with parts acquired. In light of present, don't count on Italy to supply reports soon.
two patched round balls , with 90 grains behind it . shocked me, at 50 yards it picked up a large mature doe , and threw her about ten feet . a track of the wolf , bridger hawken with a one inch octagon barrel . don't know the twist .
@@a1rb0rne502 Wrong! The Hawken brothers original 1823 designed rifle we know as the "Hawken rifle", was a flintlock. From 1823-1835 all production were flintlocks. In 1835, the brothers then converted the design to percussion style. But originally Hawkens were flintlocks.
@@FolkFirearmsCollective I want one. I have a long rifle and a Brown Bess sea service carbine. .75 cal, 34" barrel and easily the most versatile weapon I own!
Like to go on a shoot like this , I have tradition 54 with a peep sight ,I used it for over twenty years shot a lot of deer with her . I know the peep isn’t traditional but ,I don’t do well with iron sights,oh and in lines shouldn’t be allowed during the muzzle load season
I've had percussion rifles, love my Flintlock better, but I hate fake blackpowder and inline muzzle loaders!, I will not hunt with anyone that uses inlines!
no guys these rifles you have are not authentic hawken rifles just because there double wedge. they were not used by mountain men. they were only single wedge types, look on rock island auction, too see one, its a real hawken rifle used by mountain men.
good afternoon please i helped i am fa of your channel and hunting conscious but i don't have a shotgun like this i have a very dangerous handmade shotgun i will leave my email if i can answer me a hug.
Lots of shooting , little talking , hot coffee on a campfire …..PERFECT !
I bought a Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle in 1979 and a Lyman great Plains Rifle in 1981, both in .50. Thousands of RB's since then and they still shoot great. More accurate than I can see these days. Nice video. Buncha guys having a day at it.
I have a Lyman great plains rifle in 54cal and love it. Always loved the Hawken style rifle, ever since I was a young boy watching Jeremiah Johnson
A very good video I fell in love with the Hawken rifles when I was 10 years old, watching the movie "Jeremiah Johnson". In 1988 I bought my first Hawken from Ardesa (Traditions) in caliber 50. Now I have the Hawken Rocky Mountain of Pedersoli in caliber 54 and a Hawken Woodsman of Ardesa, also of 54. I have bought all the books in the United States about the Hawken rifles ("Thanks Amazon") and I want to write a book in Spanish about these rifles. Greetings from Spain.
Very nice! No stupid bla-bla-bla, just folks having fun. Thanks!
I built my own a few years ago. I wanted something different. It has a .54 Green Mt. barrel and a Siler Flintlock. Early on, some Mountain Men didn't trust percussion caps. I also made it full stock. I made the hardware (buttplate, sideplate, thimbles, trigger guard and nosecap), from steel. Good shooter.
those Green Mountain barrels are great I have a Long Range Hunter .50 Cal. Barrel on a old T/C Hawken and it is deadly ,I took a Big doe at 280 yards with it shooting open sights off hand ,double lung hit.I gave that rifle to my son
@@stevendeatley4878 wow, that's great. One thing I like is that they drill the bore before they cut the flats, so the bore is dead center. Hope your son has as good fortune as you.
@@OldJoe212 Thank you,he has taken a few deer with it ,when I went to our local rifle range with it just before hunting season.the range was packed with hunters useing inline rifles with scopes and I was the Butt end of all the jokes being the old weirdo with a side hammer,lol after shooting my 1st 50 yard shot dead center thru a quarter size hole ,I put the next shot thru the same hole then I started putting all my bullets in a walnut sized bullseye at the 100 yard line ,and I asked the one guy who had been talking the most trash why he was using a rest for his scoped inline.lol because i was shooting off handthe whole time one guy hollered and asked why diddn't I put a scope on that rifle and some body yelled back at him and asked does it look like he needs one.lol .I had to rib them guys a little ,and when they asked why I wasn't useing the shooting rests .I told them those tables was hard to find where I hunted and too heavy to carry with me. the first deer I got with that rifle was on the last day and I had hunted all day and walked out of the mountain to a friends house who fixed me a hot cup of coffee and when he walked out with me he peeked around the end of his house ,then he motioned for me to walk over and he whispered "shoot the little one'' there was a big Doe and her yearling out beside his barn .so I dropped the smaller deer in its tracks and he had a old T/c grey hawk in his hands ,but he never fired ,he just said if you can get that thing reloaded I will use it mine won't shoot that far just when I handed him the rifle the old Doe ran.
Jeremiah Johnson would be proud!
Terrific movie......especially the bear in the cabin scene!!!!
VERY enjoyable! ...could watch that for hours! Seems like a nice little rendezvous!
Built a Hawken from a Lyman kit many years ago, love it when I am at the range and out shoo the kids with their Ar's and all sorts of optics. Then again, a .50 make big hole, so it does not take many rounds to carve out a good group.
Thanks for the recognition to cap and ball rifles, seems like these days flinters get all the recognition.
Both are cool. I do prefer the Flint however. The cap rifle existed for such a small time period between Flint and cartridge. Flintlocks dominated a large portion of firearm history. The Hawken is a great piece to have however.
Funny how the entire world dropped flintlocks as fast as they could for percussion guns though?
Hawkens was a rifle with a history on the frontier.
And it would have been good to see and hear some history about the Hawkens , we all know what the sound of a gunshot is . 👎
The opening slow motion shot is amazing! Great job!!!
Love my Hawkins.54 cal Cabelas. My thunder stick. 90 grains triple 7 all day long . Great video .The hell with black tactical guns. Love living in the past these were the original assault rifles lol. Great video.
I picked up a well worn CVA Mountain Rifle, which is more like a Hawken then the actual marketed CVA Hawken rifle. The lock was worn out so I replaced the lock with one from L & R. It now shoots great and I redid the barrel/stock to go with it and have been very surprised for a CVA how good it really is.
Some really nice capotes in your vid also good Sir. Cap and ball are really nice but still a Rocklock fan at hart. You gents looked to be having a great time. Hard to find many traditional shooters here, they mostly go for those inline deals. 😕😕 Good day to you good Sir and safe shooting.
Best black powder video I have seen! Very good!
ive bought a few old used CVA mountain rifles and re-worked them a bit. I think other than the trigger guards and pewter nose caps their pretty close to a "Hawken" their great shooters too. CVA is what got me started in this addiction ..I mean hobby
Love my Hawken Renegade. Always shoots straight. I've killed many deer with it. Always dependable.
Me too! Nothing beats black powder burning on the range or trail!
been to that river range. sure is fun there, and seeing the local club back at it again.
Great vids, accompanied by wonderful music.
Really enjoy my Lyman GPR, .54 caliber flintlock. Very accurate rifle. Wish I had more opportunity to shoot it.
I just ordered one I'm a lefty though hopefully I can safely shoot a right-handed percussion with a good pair of sunglasses for eye protection
My favorite rifles. I want a hand built one one day. No room to make one myself right now.
So cool. Sure want one. Dream rifle.
Nice video as usual. Enjoyed watching you shot your new gun the other day. keep up the great work
Thanks!
Thanks guys. Love my Hawken!
I have a invsta arms Hawken in .50 cal love that rifle an the Hawken rifles in general.
Very interesting Thanks for the link for the information on the rifle.
Your videos are very well produced and a joy to watch. I just ordered a Rocky Mountain .54 from DGW and can’t wait to air it out here in the Colorado snow. Meantime I subscribed. Thank you, and please keep your videos coming.
Appreciate it. Thanks. Yes, explore the other muzzleloader videos.
Just a feel good video to watch.
Past years took 1st place in a primitive rifle match with a Thompson New Englander patch & ball. A few years later took a fine Six pt buck in the Hiawatha National Forest same out of the box rifle in Yooper land. 😃😃👍🏻👍🏻🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸
Had i .58 and a .54 many years ago. Took mule deer and elk with both when i lived in Colorado, and used my .54 to take hogs,whitetail deer and a few black bears in georgia and north carolina.
What were you shooting patched round ball or mini ball. I have a Cabelas 54 cal and love it. I shoot the deer slayer mini ball with 90 grains triple 7, my thunder stick.Also how many grains were you guys using. Great video.
Beautiful rifles.
That is a splendid rifle fer sure!
I love my Great Plains! In .54
is the Great plans as good as I have herd ?thinning of getting one it might be a flint lock if I do .
She's a straight shooter for sure.....Check out my channel,You'll find it.still haven't made a vid of me shooting it but you'll see what I did with it.I think you'll like it.
Yes they are. I have bought one in flint and percussion, they are excellent for the money.
I have one in .50 I put a Lyman Hunter barrel on it and it is deadly accurate.I ordered the barrel from Midsouth Shooters Supply,a few years ago.it has the 1 in 32 twist and works great with sabots or the T/C Maxi Ball
This was a great video right before work. I love to get me a hawken but im really wanting a Kentucky long rifle first
I love new guns but there is nothing like looks of these old black powder guns and firing them. They are beautiful and can be very accurate. It's just too bad they are a pain to clean.
I can clean a muzzleloader in ten minutes. Removing copper fouling from a centerfire, much longer.
Looks like great fun.
Makes me want to break out mine again. May take it with me to the range on Wed.
when I get one it will be a flint lock like the original guns. But a good video even with the snow.6:45PM here and `105 out side
Love my Hawkens!
Love my Lyman 54 Cal Hawken.
i have a W.Selb full stock percussion hawken ... Brant makes a lovely Hawken
1:55 - I found a little ironic humor in that the shooter was wearing a BCM cap, and shooting a Hawken Rifle. Two very different firearms, both of which I appreciate. I'm looking forward to Friendship, Indiana.
Is liking both not allowed? Strange train of thought.
@@floppinfish As I said, "which I appreciate." My point was, those are 2 very different types of firearms. So addressing "allowed", goodness gracious YES! *I encourage it.* Thanks for your post.
In their day, the Hawken was as fine a rifle as any in existence and highly prized. As rifles progressed from the flintlock through the Kentucky rifle design, the Hawken emerged as the one that best delivered accuracy, range and larger calibers. Of course, modern technology has greatly improved the muzzle loading rifle through inline systems. The Hawken is now a relic that - as a shooter - is still lots of fun, but it provides only marginal reliability.
Looks like fun! What state and organization is this with?
Beautiful rifle!
How powerful are these types of rifle? Considering they were used to take out big game, I suppose there pretty tough?
I just located a .54 caliber half sock "plains rifle" with a single trigger and a flat butt plate made out of plastic, modern plastic sights. Its selling for $130 in my local gunshop. I used to know a guy who could take a junker like that and turn it into a decent plains rifle. Would something like that be worth it?
I love the style these men have. I just acquired two Hawken rifles recently (May 4th, 2019) both in shooting condition, as well as most of what I need to get started. I've got the guns, now I've just got to look the part. This video, of course, makes more rather happy to have gathered such firearms and desire to carry on the tradition.
Very cool! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Whoooo Buddy can smell the powder! Have 2 Hawkins in 50 cal. One is a custom in Tiger Eye Maple the other is American Black Walnut......Aho!
I swear, every time I go to one of these there is at least one guy who shows up in jeans!
(It’s me.... I always show up in jeans, and no, not period correct denim, the stuff that goes on sale Black Friday at Bass Pro Shops).
I love this gun
"Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! Wunnerful video! How my ol' (80!!) heart aches to shoot my custom .58 Hawken again before I pass on (like "croak"!)! Mine was made for me by Andy Fauthuree (of Muzzle blasts Magazine) in 1968 when I was a 28 year old bachelor. MASTER craftsmanship!!! Beautiful Curly Maple stock; 32" × 1&1/8" Bill Large barrel (round ball twist); hook breech; gorgeous case hardened set triggers; gorgeous case hardened AL Osterman coil spring caplock; 2 candy striped ramrods; brass trim. Yes, it's a "HEAVYWEIGHT" (great for very heavy powder charges if you want - from "mices" to "beek" Mooses!!) & really "hangs in there"! The barrel is a very very beautiful satin finish rust brown, perfectly EVEN in tone from breech to muzzle! Never have seen another even close to its beauty! My best OFFHAND 5 shot group at 100 yards was 6&1/2" overall, with 4 of the shots in a 2&3/8" or 2&1/2" group!!! I was never a great shooter either! Had to be God's predestination for my shooting career! Paid in total $300! Wish I would have ordered a Hawken "flinter" as its mate!!! "Gesundheit" und pass da "Lutefisk" poleaze!
Love it awesome video
My big mistake was selling my .54 calibre Thompson Center Hawken a few yrs back. One consolation is I now have a TC Renegade, at least it's made in this country. After watching this, I wish I could get out and shoot for an afternoon, or multiple days. By the way, can conbustable paper powder charges be used to save time?
Looks fun, but to go out out in the woods with all those guys I'd want to be confident they all were safe to be around guns--no accidents.
I love my Hawkin CVA 50 Cal…
I wonder if there's any companies out there that makes a 36 caliber Hawken rifle I would sure love to have one?
YES check internet, only thing is they are no longer made here, unless you build one yourself with parts acquired. In light of present, don't count on Italy to supply reports soon.
the way that you wander, is the way that you choose
Were there many or any flintlock hawken rifles used historically?
Yes. Early Hawkens had a flintlock, some full stock. These were all ground up in the Rocky Mountains.
I love muzzleloaders .
We have a .58 but can't seem to find the right powder load for it. Now it's just a wall hanger
I'd try ffg in it. Might like it better than 3f. Unless you've already tried that lol.
I own a Austin & Halleck mountain rifle that looks quite decent.
two patched round balls , with 90 grains behind it . shocked me, at 50 yards it picked up a large mature doe , and threw her about ten feet . a track of the wolf , bridger hawken with a one inch octagon barrel . don't know the twist .
👍👍👍
I have the 54 caliber Hawkins Cabelas Invest arms rifles I love to shoot this icon
Not one flintlock Hawken??
whodey59 That’s what I was looking for too
The actual hawken design came after flintlocks were obsolete.
@@a1rb0rne502 Wrong! The Hawken brothers original 1823 designed rifle we know as the "Hawken rifle", was a flintlock. From 1823-1835 all production were flintlocks. In 1835, the brothers then converted the design to percussion style. But originally Hawkens were flintlocks.
@@whodey59 The first deer I ever killed in Montana was with an original Hawken full stock, that had been converted from flint.
Why no rock locks?
I do love a Flinter Hawken. None were here.
@@FolkFirearmsCollective I want one. I have a long rifle and a Brown Bess sea service carbine. .75 cal, 34" barrel and easily the most versatile weapon I own!
The famous mountain man named Jeremy Johansson used one of these. He ate the livers from his victims.
Is this a music video
Like to go on a shoot like this , I have tradition 54 with a peep sight ,I used it for over twenty years shot a lot of deer with her . I know the peep isn’t traditional but ,I don’t do well with iron sights,oh and in lines shouldn’t be allowed during the muzzle load season
I've had percussion rifles, love my Flintlock better, but I hate fake blackpowder and inline muzzle loaders!, I will not hunt with anyone that uses inlines!
When you talk to these guys. Their only response is always "huh?". Cause their ear drums are blown to shit.
Eyes and ears kids
no guys these rifles you have are not authentic hawken rifles just because there double wedge. they were not used by mountain men. they were only single wedge types, look on rock island auction, too see one, its a real hawken rifle used by mountain men.
if you want a Hawken rifle (or a Gemmer) come to St.Louis. hook up with, www.gemmermuzzleloadingclub.com/
good afternoon please i helped i am fa of your channel and hunting conscious but i don't have a shotgun like this i have a very dangerous handmade shotgun i will leave my email if i can answer me a hug.
Your front site is installed the wrong war around.
what a waste of time to watch
What a pathetic life you have, if your highlight of the day is talking shit on UA-cam.