9.0-9.3 has to be the most cursed BR range in the game. From 8.7 to 9.7 you go from Korean War era subsonics with guns only to supersonics with countermeasures and uncaged missiles. Keep going to 10.0/10.3 and suddenly you're facing all aspect IR and radar missiles (often without countermeasures on your own plane). The compression is absolutely insane.
@@ghostly6175 I know the BN is not really a true air to air fighter or anything, it was just funny because of how anachronistic the whole engagement was
@@ChildEater84874 not really. In the higher BRs, missiles become more capable so getting killed is relatively much harder to avoid, the same thing goes with ppl running as well. At 9.0, the performance gap between aircraft is larger than at BRs like 12.0 because some go supersonic and most don’t. Thus creates a lobby full of super sonic aircraft running to the map border chased by subsonic aircraft with either really shitty or no missiles at all
Right after the Su-25 got bumped up, 9.0/9.3 were my favorite BRs. Every single game was a slight uptier to 9.7 only and full uptiers into all-aspect crap were incredibly rare. Gaijin then probably realized the premium kids were getting annihilated at 10.3 and "fixed" it immediately. It's back to all-aspect hell because we can't have anything fun apparently...
Also, people take head-ons because sometimes enemies force you into them, otherwise you end up in front of their guns And not all people learn how and when evade head-ons, even if you know how to, there are still some situations, especially in props, where you cant do anything to survive, except taking a headon
@@killme4569 "theres situations where you get forced into risky moves to survive. Or, people never learn the timing" Nuanced, correct, leaves room for interpretation. "no." bruh at least put some effort into the bad replies you make.
@@pasttenseofdraw5791 you see people taking full commit head ons that are completely stupid all the time. just people thirsty for a kill. i don’t need to say anything nuanced because actually getting forced into a head on is a very very rare occurrence that would involve multiple planes. getting forced into a 1v1 head on is just not a real thing unless you get sniped 2km away.
@pasttenseofdraw5791 you got a real reply from him with a real argument, ganna respond or just keep living in this fairy tale land where people are forced into head ons like ever
The Lim-5P when I ground through it, got nothing but downtiers because of the A-4E spam never has a grind been so easy, such a shame to see how many mach capable things are right next to 9.0
I’m a Sweden main (mostly because it requires the fewest RP and I refuse to buy premium out of principle), and the J29F, SK60B, and A-21A-3 are easily some of my favorite planes in WT. They’re all defined by good durability and great firepower, and that’s all I need, even if their maneuverability is shit That said, an average game of Air RB for me involves blasting heavy metal music (Metalingus, Deutschland, and Down In Flames are my personal favorite songs for that) and having fun. I’d honestly recommend it (having fun, not necessarily the metal. I understand that you’re an EDM guy)
*Metalingus by Alter Bridge, Deutschland by Rammstein, and Down In Flames by Judas Priest Rebel Yell by Dope, Mjölner, Hammer Of Thor by Amon Amarth, and Metal Machine by Sabaton are great, too
The F4D rips if you turn and roll between 700-900 KMH IAS, and rips if you just turn with combat flaps between 600-900 KMH IAS. Thinking about negative g's rips your wings. Any amount of flaps work at any speed. If you find yourself suddenly playing Ground RB it's because you forgot to disable combat flaps.
I would love that see a video on the f4d. Also, maybe check out the f3h. 4 aim-9b at 9.7 or you can take two aim7c and two aim9b. Also has an afterburner and turns pretty well. Always enjoy your videos.
yo you should try the ki 84 specially the ko, its not japanese level turn but its around spitfire level it also has some of the best flaps in the game and surprisingly fast for a japanese plane i think you will enjoy it
Hey Joob, could we see an F6F video sometime soon? I'm grinding the american tech tree and I'm struggling with figuring out how best to fly the Hellcat (I'm using the 3.0 version)
please, i beg you, fly anything but the hellcat. fly the f4u instead, youre gonna have a much better time. yk how to play american props, same applies to f4u. you sideclimb, do boom and zoom, dont commit to dogfights
@@getclicked000 I've stopped using the F6F because it's so painful and now I just use F4U... I was wondering if I was just playing the F6F wrong or something
Well my only recommendation for flying the F6F is taking itto ground battles for CAS as it's basically a P47 at a lower BR weapon wise not talking flight performance
Could you please suggest Gaijin to update the models of the Bf109 from the F1 to the G6 so that the propeller spinner actually spins like it does on the G10, G14 and K4? It looks really fake when you have a skin with a spiral painted on the spinner and once the engine is on, the spiral just becomes parallel lines or if you have a skin with a white and black coloured spinner it becomes a grey spinner. Has anyone else noticed this?
Try the F104 or the La-200, the top 2 boom and zoom aircraft in the entire game. Even in a full up tier to 8.7 the La-200 still out performs everything else you can encounter. the only thing even getting close to it is the f86 which only gets .50's, while you get triple 30 mm's.
This comment is completely laughable The La-200 sucks dog dick, and it has three 37mm's, not 30mm's. And all of the 104's are only ever good in downtiers, and even then, not really.
The only BR's that I think need to change are F-84's to 8.0 (or remove airspawn) F-104's to 9.7 (at least) And AV-8's/ Harrier's to 10.0 That would make sub and trans-sonic jets so much better.
PLS suffer with the monster of a plane that is the J32B, is a half decent plane that has the constant full uptier syndrome. No tracers, but the 30mm hit like a death star.
I might find out *one day* but after years of playing I’m still no good past a BR of 3.7. At 4.3 I’m practically guaranteed to get seal-clubbed. 9.0? Well, I can do Air Assault at 9.0
I think you'll like the P-39N-0, it's awesome, you can easily outclimb everyone (if you sideclimb) and can usually get an easy bomber kill, and then absolutely dominate the fighters.
Can someone tell me how much this match is worth? 112 landing craft (navel targets) 4 air targets in a P-47D-25 (ger) circa 2017 Short answer is that I got norway (air RB) for the billionth time that night, got 4 easy dubs and the last guy on there team was an afk B-25. He dead ass flew till he ran out of fuel and glided down from space and crashed, this took till the last 35 seconds of the match. (this was back when air RB maps could go on for 2+ hours) And the landing craft that get sent to cap A on Norway just kept spawning, I must have landed 4 or 5 times just to get more ammo. (best war thunder match ever IMO) I do not remember the sl pay out from that match and I no longer have the screenshot but I know it had to have been high up there because my german P-47 still remains my highest grossing premium at 5.26M SL. (the only proof i can provide is a gamer tag: Rusty_Kuntz )
@@bradentucker4854 i remember the a10 spam when 90% of the American teams were a10s which are boring to fight and if they were aware then you could not get close, now there are less of them and more fighters to dogfight which makes it more fun imo
@@bradentucker4854 i can dodge them sometimes but not very reliably so its a skill issue but in general the ariete is more fun to play nowadays because there is a larger variety of enemy aircraft
8.3 to 9.0 is the worst BR a plane can have at this moment in time and I don't even bother with those if they don't have an ace up their sleeve. Even the MiG-15bis and the Lim-5P are a pain to fly nowadays. The Mystere IIA at 8.0 is my relaxing fun jet. The IIC at 8.3 is better in every way, but it's borderline unplayable because of its matchmaker. I hope it gets better at 9.3+ Surely it will, right? ...right? 😰
Akans used to be really really good. With real shatter now the Swedish 13mm are better because they do the exact same damage but have a much higher fire rate. They still seem better then hispanos and maybe M3s but thats like saying you prefer a dry dog turd to a fresh dog turd.
>i miss the mig15bis and f sabres reason i quit the game, the desecration of jets to birth the missile gameplay of today was such a criminal act. if you like that stuff i couldnt care less, but the fact that they wrecked the only br bracket i could somewhat enjoy to make it will always make me hate gaijin
Just recently got back into the game, I stopped playing years ago when I got the Mig15 bis when it was top dog. Grinded to the MiG19.. hated almost every minute of it, but I was hopeful that when I got the 19 it'd start being fun again. Never have I been so wrong. This game really only shines with pure dog fighting.. back when it was just f86's amd mig 15s, sure the game had its issues.. but at least it was playable. I don't even WANT a top tier jet, because it's just a point and click simulator with missiles from what I've seen. I have 0 interest in that. I might just grind out a 7.7 jet in another country and stick to that. Anything higher and the game is just god awful.
9.0 BR right now is the most fun BR to play at. J29F is not bad at all considering it's new eco changes. Literary every game in this plane is 8.3-9.3 so you should really compre it to 8.3 planes. That plane is not mid, you are
The F should be 8.7. No reason to have it at 9.9. Why is it strange looking? It is not much different from Sabres and MiG-15s.. Just saying that without any thought because everyone else does just make you sound stupid. AKAn means just autocannon. They are Hispanos, with Swedish ammo.
@@_Joob No, I just have zero respect for clowns that repeat what others say without a thought. You sound really dumb. You do realize that actually saying "LMAO" makes you sound like a kid or a retard, or both. Grow the fuck up assclown. You sound dumb - which probably means you are dumb. Not much you can do about it. it is just others that suffer. but fucking try. the less you say, the smart er you sound..
9.0-9.3 has to be the most cursed BR range in the game. From 8.7 to 9.7 you go from Korean War era subsonics with guns only to supersonics with countermeasures and uncaged missiles. Keep going to 10.0/10.3 and suddenly you're facing all aspect IR and radar missiles (often without countermeasures on your own plane). The compression is absolutely insane.
literally bruh, 9.0 k/f sabers can face a10s with 9l's what is a korean war aircraft gonna do against an aim9l bro
It’s such a mood killer I’ll be playing in my Canberra at 8.3 and get matched against F104s, F100s, MiG 19s and even MiG 21s sometimes
I killed a mig-23 in my sabre... it was extremely cursed.
@@BroomtwoMig-23BN has no AA and less ammo at 9.7
@@ghostly6175 I know the BN is not really a true air to air fighter or anything, it was just funny because of how anachronistic the whole engagement was
Finally the J29F has a video
Too overlooked
Not that it needed one it's kinda ass lmao
“All that just to die to a missile.” The fucking epitome of 9.0.
Isn't that applied to every br with missiles?
@@ChildEater84874 not really. In the higher BRs, missiles become more capable so getting killed is relatively much harder to avoid, the same thing goes with ppl running as well. At 9.0, the performance gap between aircraft is larger than at BRs like 12.0 because some go supersonic and most don’t. Thus creates a lobby full of super sonic aircraft running to the map border chased by subsonic aircraft with either really shitty or no missiles at all
Right after the Su-25 got bumped up, 9.0/9.3 were my favorite BRs. Every single game was a slight uptier to 9.7 only and full uptiers into all-aspect crap were incredibly rare. Gaijin then probably realized the premium kids were getting annihilated at 10.3 and "fixed" it immediately. It's back to all-aspect hell because we can't have anything fun apparently...
Also, people take head-ons because sometimes enemies force you into them, otherwise you end up in front of their guns
And not all people learn how and when evade head-ons, even if you know how to, there are still some situations, especially in props, where you cant do anything to survive, except taking a headon
that’s just not true. at least not for a full commit head on.
@@killme4569 "theres situations where you get forced into risky moves to survive. Or, people never learn the timing" Nuanced, correct, leaves room for interpretation.
"no." bruh at least put some effort into the bad replies you make.
@@pasttenseofdraw5791 you see people taking full commit head ons that are completely stupid all the time. just people thirsty for a kill. i don’t need to say anything nuanced because actually getting forced into a head on is a very very rare occurrence that would involve multiple planes. getting forced into a 1v1 head on is just not a real thing unless you get sniped 2km away.
Or your a stupid ME262 pilot who has all the trust in the world in their guns and surviveability (def not me)
@pasttenseofdraw5791 you got a real reply from him with a real argument, ganna respond or just keep living in this fairy tale land where people are forced into head ons like ever
The Lim-5P when I ground through it, got nothing but downtiers because of the A-4E spam
never has a grind been so easy, such a shame to see how many mach capable things are right next to 9.0
I'm that guy who spams A-4E
Daily reminder that the later version of me-163 and ki-200 are at the same br as this. Facing all aspect missiles and planes from mid cold war.
theyre not the same br tho
163 B-0 is 8.3 lmao what?
@@nickthecynic587 the later one
@@nickthecynic587 oh it's 8.7 now, I pretty confidentally remember that it was at 9.0 few months ago
@@nickthecynic587 and also seems like the ki-200 br has changed since I researched it. It was at 9.0, at least they don't face all aspect missiles now
I’m a Sweden main (mostly because it requires the fewest RP and I refuse to buy premium out of principle), and the J29F, SK60B, and A-21A-3 are easily some of my favorite planes in WT. They’re all defined by good durability and great firepower, and that’s all I need, even if their maneuverability is shit
That said, an average game of Air RB for me involves blasting heavy metal music (Metalingus, Deutschland, and Down In Flames are my personal favorite songs for that) and having fun. I’d honestly recommend it (having fun, not necessarily the metal. I understand that you’re an EDM guy)
*Metalingus by Alter Bridge, Deutschland by Rammstein, and Down In Flames by Judas Priest
Rebel Yell by Dope, Mjölner, Hammer Of Thor by Amon Amarth, and Metal Machine by Sabaton are great, too
@@hoopchristine5202 I went away from Metal and Black metal a decade ago, house/Electro is where its at these days. Partiboi69/MCR-T/Salvatore Gannachi
"it was almost fun"
WarThunder in a nutshell.
I love this plane! Flight so different
All I'm sayin is the J29-D is back in the store, an updated video would be pretty NEAT
The F4D rips if you turn and roll between 700-900 KMH IAS, and rips if you just turn with combat flaps between 600-900 KMH IAS. Thinking about negative g's rips your wings. Any amount of flaps work at any speed. If you find yourself suddenly playing Ground RB it's because you forgot to disable combat flaps.
Oh lawd he coming
I would love that see a video on the f4d. Also, maybe check out the f3h. 4 aim-9b at 9.7 or you can take two aim7c and two aim9b. Also has an afterburner and turns pretty well. Always enjoy your videos.
that outro tho, damn good :D
The barrel plane!
Yooo joob you posted on my birthday!
i've been playing this game for a while and i can only Dreams of having a jet
the F4D's wings are still made of absolute wet newspaper, you still can randomly rip them right off at any speed above 900kmh
Day 1 of telling joob to play the yak 38M
Plum is the right word
Love your vids joob
can you do a video in the 104a? its on of my favorite jets in the game
That guy in the first game (John_warthunder) i saw in ground rb like, a month ago. Dont know why i remembered that lol.
Every time getting off War Thunder for the day: Well that was almost fun...
Can you equalize the volume of your outro with the rest of the audio from the video per chance? Amazing content!
Ive seen enough of your videos where you kill enemies with a tap fire. Im relearning War Thunder Air RB with Tracers
I sold as that f-100 at the end :sob:
it really does look like a barrel (the fusalage)
The guns are just the Swedish designation for the license built Hispano Mk 5, just a few minor differences.
yo you should try the ki 84 specially the ko, its not japanese level turn but its around spitfire level it also has some of the best flaps in the game and surprisingly fast for a japanese plane i think you will enjoy it
could you do a video on the j32B? or the saab 105 as they both have amazing guns that work way too well if u know how to aim them.
People need to stop insulting my child the j29f
The F86A-5 is my favourite Sabre to fly, purely because it's a bit further from the shitshow BR. You can actually dual some MiG-15s occasionally.
Hey Joob, could we see an F6F video sometime soon? I'm grinding the american tech tree and I'm struggling with figuring out how best to fly the Hellcat (I'm using the 3.0 version)
please, i beg you, fly anything but the hellcat. fly the f4u instead, youre gonna have a much better time. yk how to play american props, same applies to f4u. you sideclimb, do boom and zoom, dont commit to dogfights
@@getclicked000 I've stopped using the F6F because it's so painful and now I just use F4U... I was wondering if I was just playing the F6F wrong or something
Well my only recommendation for flying the F6F is taking itto ground battles for CAS as it's basically a P47 at a lower BR weapon wise not talking flight performance
For that thing to do ANYTHING u need max G tolerance and stamina.
I love the way they look but I’ve never liked flying them because of the BR’s
There is a new Swedish top tier jet (AJS37)
Since you were speaking British you should do the harrier gr.7
9.0 is just like 11.0 Because I love flying Mig-21 and F-4E against Mig-29
Playing this thing and even if you get a kill with it, you still loose money.
Could you please suggest Gaijin to update the models of the Bf109 from the F1 to the G6 so that the propeller spinner actually spins like it does on the G10, G14 and K4? It looks really fake when you have a skin with a spiral painted on the spinner and once the engine is on, the spiral just becomes parallel lines or if you have a skin with a white and black coloured spinner it becomes a grey spinner. Has anyone else noticed this?
The plane is dummy thiccc
Good vid
I grinded with this when Su-25's were still at 9.7, boy was it painful, it was a very enjoyable aircraft otherwise though imo.
You gotta play the sabre jasdf i find it quite enjoyable
the premium yak38 has 4 r 60 at 9.3
Try the F104 or the La-200, the top 2 boom and zoom aircraft in the entire game. Even in a full up tier to 8.7 the La-200 still out performs everything else you can encounter. the only thing even getting close to it is the f86 which only gets .50's, while you get triple 30 mm's.
This comment is completely laughable
The La-200 sucks dog dick, and it has three 37mm's, not 30mm's.
And all of the 104's are only ever good in downtiers, and even then, not really.
idk why u dont like it its pretty decent and guns are great aswell
Do u stream???
The only BR's that I think need to change are
F-84's to 8.0 (or remove airspawn)
F-104's to 9.7 (at least)
And AV-8's/ Harrier's to 10.0
That would make sub and trans-sonic jets so much better.
Finally, something not top tier
Good vid, though Spitfires when?
PLS suffer with the monster of a plane that is the J32B, is a half decent plane that has the constant full uptier syndrome. No tracers, but the 30mm hit like a death star.
Nice video Joob
The A29B was one of my favorite jets throughout the entire tree. This jet got flown 10x to make sure I wasn't tripping but its absolute ass
JOOB IN A TOOOBE USING LOOOB
still requesting the I-153P or I-153 M62, video 9 now
I might find out *one day* but after years of playing I’m still no good past a BR of 3.7.
At 4.3 I’m practically guaranteed to get seal-clubbed. 9.0? Well, I can do Air Assault at 9.0
Ywah, you're playing sweden that's why.
Please play the german Mig-19 it's just suffering
Im with him when 9.0 is hell
Is it supersonic ?
gyat
mike?
suh Joob :)
any swedish player will know the pain of early swedish jets
The vampires are ok, people keep trying to turnfight you
Jooj out here just joojing all over everyone
Play the super mystere b2 for more pain
F104A is fun but you know what isnt *the magic*
I think you'll like the P-39N-0, it's awesome, you can easily outclimb everyone (if you sideclimb) and can usually get an easy bomber kill, and then absolutely dominate the fighters.
Ofcourse outclimb mig 19PT/19S
@@ctrlaltdiepikabu2834 what dude xD
exactly
@@ZakkyYT919 Meant as a joke, I think.
@@darealsherlock8026 perhaps
The J29 seems decent in air RB, but I fly sim a lot, and those are one of the easiest kills for any other jet.
J29A was one of my favorite planes to play. Good flight performance on 20 minute fuel at 7.7 and solid guns (before realshitter).
Well my q5a dont mind it
I don’t like it either, I just got the a4e as my first jet, it sucks, your enemy had to be restarted for you to Actualy make it to base bomb
Joob:)
Can someone tell me how much this match is worth?
112 landing craft (navel targets)
4 air targets
in a P-47D-25 (ger)
circa 2017
Short answer is that I got norway (air RB) for the billionth time that night, got 4 easy dubs and the last guy on there team was an afk B-25.
He dead ass flew till he ran out of fuel and glided down from space and crashed, this took till the last 35 seconds of the match.
(this was back when air RB maps could go on for 2+ hours)
And the landing craft that get sent to cap A on Norway just kept spawning, I must have landed 4 or 5 times just to get more ammo. (best war thunder match ever IMO)
I do not remember the sl pay out from that match and I no longer have the screenshot but I know it had to have been high up there because my german P-47 still remains my highest grossing premium at 5.26M SL. (the only proof i can provide is a gamer tag: Rusty_Kuntz )
Please use the soviet thunderbolt
Bro has more than 60 ammo
you should play the ariete again, its a lot more enjoyable with the recent br decompression
It’s always been enjoyable just have to watch the missiles because you can outturn them anyways
@@bradentucker4854 i remember the a10 spam when 90% of the American teams were a10s which are boring to fight and if they were aware then you could not get close, now there are less of them and more fighters to dogfight which makes it more fun imo
@@krustykrabkk7742 you can get close just gotta learn how to dodge aim 9 Ls which is even easy in head ons
@@bradentucker4854 i can dodge them sometimes but not very reliably so its a skill issue but in general the ariete is more fun to play nowadays because there is a larger variety of enemy aircraft
@@krustykrabkk7742 yeah it’s but of skill you issue but you can’t win em all unless your me ofcourse
f104 america
WHY IS THE J29s REPAIR COST 20K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
hehe fat plane funi
f104s around 9.0-10.0 are pain all they do is run away
8.3 to 9.0 is the worst BR a plane can have at this moment in time and I don't even bother with those if they don't have an ace up their sleeve.
Even the MiG-15bis and the Lim-5P are a pain to fly nowadays. The Mystere IIA at 8.0 is my relaxing fun jet. The IIC at 8.3 is better in every way, but it's borderline unplayable because of its matchmaker.
I hope it gets better at 9.3+ Surely it will, right? ...right? 😰
Akans used to be really really good. With real shatter now the Swedish 13mm are better because they do the exact same damage but have a much higher fire rate. They still seem better then hispanos and maybe M3s but thats like saying you prefer a dry dog turd to a fresh dog turd.
Hello?
play t2 pls
Getting a 6.0 game in a 5.0 plane is annoying, getting a 9.7 game in an 8.7 plane is unplayable
the last 2-3 br`s are a cluster fuck of jets that shouldnt fight each other imo
>i miss the mig15bis and f sabres
reason i quit the game, the desecration of jets to birth the missile gameplay of today was such a criminal act. if you like that stuff i couldnt care less, but the fact that they wrecked the only br bracket i could somewhat enjoy to make it will always make me hate gaijin
Just recently got back into the game, I stopped playing years ago when I got the Mig15 bis when it was top dog. Grinded to the MiG19.. hated almost every minute of it, but I was hopeful that when I got the 19 it'd start being fun again. Never have I been so wrong. This game really only shines with pure dog fighting.. back when it was just f86's amd mig 15s, sure the game had its issues.. but at least it was playable. I don't even WANT a top tier jet, because it's just a point and click simulator with missiles from what I've seen. I have 0 interest in that. I might just grind out a 7.7 jet in another country and stick to that. Anything higher and the game is just god awful.
A32B is worse at .3 br higher, and faces alot of full 10.3 uptiers, really sad plane
Try 8.7 fj4b. It's worse
9.0 BR right now is the most fun BR to play at. J29F is not bad at all considering it's new eco changes. Literary every game in this plane is 8.3-9.3 so you should really compre it to 8.3 planes. That plane is not mid, you are
just play 105b
I hate this plane, all the j29s
9.3=10.3/9.7 i only have 9.3 how do i grind 🥲
The F should be 8.7. No reason to have it at 9.9.
Why is it strange looking? It is not much different from Sabres and MiG-15s.. Just saying that without any thought because everyone else does just make you sound stupid.
AKAn means just autocannon. They are Hispanos, with Swedish ammo.
Bro got defensive cause I said a plane looked weird 😭😭
@@_Joob No, I just have zero respect for clowns that repeat what others say without a thought. You sound really dumb.
You do realize that actually saying "LMAO" makes you sound like a kid or a retard, or both. Grow the fuck up assclown.
You sound dumb - which probably means you are dumb. Not much you can do about it. it is just others that suffer. but fucking try. the less you say, the smart er you sound..