Bryan Kohberger Fights For Transparency! Prosecution Wants Hearings Sealed. The Emily Show Ep 276
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I breakdown the Bryan Kohberger Hearing on May 2, 2024. The defense and prosecution agree that the hearing scheduled for May 16, 2024 should be closed but do not agree that the hearing on May 14, 2024 should be closed. Ann Taylor argues the hearing on May 14, 2024 should not be closed because it is in the interest of Kohberger's 6th Amendment Right to have a public trial. The prosecution argues that the proceedings before the public trial are not obligated to be in the public and that they need to balance the interests and privacy and sensitive info and right to a fair trial. Judge John Judge ultimately sides with the prosecution to have a closed hearing on May 14, 2024 and signs a subpoena for the FBI to produce evidence for cell towers amongst other things that should have been handed over 6 months ago.
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0:00 Welcome
1:13 Intro
1:35 Factor Ad Spot
3:07 The Hearing
7:58 State's Argument To Seal May 14th Hearing
10:46 Defense Argument
23:46 John Judge's Statements
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28:58 State's Response
31:17 Defense and Judge Go Back and Forth
40:09 Judge's Decision
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46:03 Prosecution Wants To Clear The Air
55:23 Conclusion
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I definitely heard “shush” and my eyes went 😳
Now I’m side-eyeing this judge.
Especially the way he smiled at that...weird.
The judge grew up in Moscow. He has countless friends, colleagues, and legal connections to the university and local law enforcement. There's no way he should be presiding over this case. A change of venue to a county outside his jurisdiction and the control of the university would make it less of a kangaroo court.
@@JakeKoenigWow, had no idea he is from that area 😶
I'm so glad to see the veil being lifted from the eyes of the public who've been given biased info from MSM. The public is seeing that clearly, the State Prosecutors have been playing the game. However, as we the public the right of transparency. Thank you Emily for educating the public.
I’m starting to see what Ann Taylor was arguing that this judge is too comfortable with the prosecution. It starting to make me feel uncomfortable.
100%
I am always suspicious of those fighting against transparency 👁️👄👁️
The state's trying to craft the public narrative? I didn't know Mr Orwell was on the state's team.
This is sus as hell. The state's literally claiming hearings aren't part of the trial wrt defendant's constitutional rights. Really?
I hear ya
Very true.
May your bidet be warm.
I agree, but I do think a lot of his trying to have as impartial of a jury as possible..I don't know, still seems sketchy though
Shady prosecutors
There is SO much being hidden by MLE & prosecution all while JJJ smirks, smiles & laughs this case needs to leave that area.
JJJ and the prosecution stay on the case if it moves counties.
I am horrified by his demeanor in a death penalty case! 😮🤯🔴🐐
I absolutely agree. I would also like to see a change of prosecutiing attorneys. I also have concerns about this judge, he seems to lack the gumption to get this ball rolling.
@@McQuizzicalThat judge is part of the prosecution.
@McQuizzical He shouldn't be, though. He is supposed to be the "impartial person in charge of the trial"
Should be public, what's wrong Judge Judge
If the State is still waiting for Discovery, then *HOW* & *WHY* did Bill Thompson Announce *MONTHS AGO* that they were "Trial Ready"?? But, more Importantly, *HOW* did they even Arrest Bryan Kohberger w/out these Things that they're still Waiting to Receive?? These Things don't make *ANY* Sense to Me, at all.
We need to ask ourselves why is the FBI not cooperating with the state?
I agree with your statement 100%. Also, the judge and the prosecution seemed to be not doing in the awful lot of gas lighting. So something is very wrong here.
Exactly. They said it could jeopardize investigations or reveal investigation techniques which seems like it should be no problem at all... unless their methods of investigation weren't what they should have been.
The FBI got suckered into what they thought was a slam-dunk case, so they sent 60 agents to arrest BK, mostly so they could get bragging rights. But with all the searches coming up empty, the FBI must suspect what many others suspect, that this was only possible if the DNA evidence was planted.
Is it that they’re not cooperating? Or is it just red tape/a slow process and backed-up system
@@Manatee4Scale After 2 years? The FBI claimed to have destroyed the DNA workup. They also claimed to have no video of the arrest in BK's parents' home. (With their 60 agents!) The local LE has removed the audio associated with the videos of their white car evidence, which could destroy their connect the dots if the cars sound different, or if loud music is playing.
My biggest issue here is how on earth did the state think they could take this to trial in 6 months if after 18 months they don't even have all of the discovery? The defence could never be ready so surely forcing a waving of speedy trial due to this is not constitutional? Confused 🤔
He waived his right to a speedy trial
If the State doesn't have the documents from the FBI, how could they rely on them for the PC Affidavit?
The way I understand it is. They have the document stating the DNA match to brian but not how they got there. So the defense is asking for the documents showing how they got from the DNA on the knife sheath to Brian. The prosuctor is saying they don't have that documentation the FBI does, and they haven't given it to them. They need a court order to get it they say.
@@TiffanyJoiner-vp4zsthat’s not the only documentation/parts of discovery they are seeking…
They are also compelling:
1- the CAST report in *FULL.*
2- *ALL* of the video surveillance footage relied on during the time in question placing *the car,* not *HIS CAR,* but *THE* car at or around the crime scene…
3- the audio matchup to the video footage mentioned above…
@LiLHarOak I understand they are asking for other things. I was responding to the op saying if they don't have everything from the FBI. They 100% need to stop dragging their feet and give up the discovery requested. If all this is from the FBI or parts are from the FBI, then they may not have full copies in their possession and may need to the court order to get them. If they do and haven't given them over, then I have no idea what they are doing. Seems a dumb thing to fight over either way.
@@TiffanyJoiner-vp4zs A court order is from the judge?
There is ALOT more missing than dna info. The fbi says they can't show work product of how they came to family dna - it wasn't saved on computer. Sure - Nothing sus about that 🙄
The fact the defense are the ones wanting an open court and the state are doing all they can to keep everything private, speaks volumes to me.
It's a PUBLIC trial
McQ my thoughts exactly, it's worrisome if Judge grants prosecution a closed hearing.
@@lynnhauenstein4136 🙄🙄🙄 They RANDOMLY CHOSE KHOLBURGER BASED ON HIS DNA ?? HOW DÒES THAT MAKE SENSE
@@lynnhauenstein4136 🤣🤣🤣Maxwells trial wasn't on Court TV were you upset by that ???
@@lynnhauenstein4136 It is, I'm very concerned about this case. I think theres been shinnanigans, either because they know it's him, and messed with evidence or because they're trying to pin it in him, either way I'm concerned justice may not be served where it should.
The more trials i follow, the more my concerns increase. It makes me wonder how often defendants truly get a fair trial.
ALL trials need to be live.
'Im in a position where i have to make decisions' - yes, its called being a judge!!! 🤦
I feel like this Judge talks 'around' things and is not decisive and 'controlling' enough.
@@robinmaynard1640 I agree
@@McQuizzical thank you.
@@robinmaynard1640and yet wants to micromanage everything. Like, bruh, the key word in there is manage!
Yup.... I thought he knew that,since he educated himself to be a judge.... 👀
The more they seal, the more I wonder what exactly they are hiding from us and why.
Im getting tired of Judges that think their job is to be part of the prosecution team and “fix” the problems with a case by trampling the rights of the defendant. Innocent until PROVEN guilty means nothing these days.
How does the state make charges against Kohberger if they don't have the needed reports and documents that (supposedly) the FBI, etc. has? What are their charges based on?
Good question, why AT really wanted the preliminary hearing but the Prosecutor got a grand Jury indictment. 😬
Soooo on what grounds was the defendant arrested and sitting in jail for the last one and a half years? Something is really wrong with our justice system.
I heard "Shush" as well from the female Prosecutor! Completely unprofessional and downright shady prosecutors. Judge Judge needs to get see the bigger picture here and stop closing out the public. The more they hide, withhold, and refuse to turn over, the less credible they appear. This shouldn't be happening 1.5 years out.
What's causing SO much speculation is all the withholding & behind closed door bs.
I think she said "Judge" and used him to shush Ms. Taylor. It's still quite embarrassing on her part to behave as if the judge is there to be her attack dog.
Freudian slip..
Judge Judge grew up in Moscow, where the university and local law enforcement control everything. Where would you expect his allegiances to lie? He knows which side of his bread is buttered.
No wonder the defense needs so much more time, they literally have so much missing information so how on earth can she properly defend against what she does not have.
Why would the State want to seal this case from the public? Trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but it doesn't make sense. 🤔
Could lead to false narriative, and may be predjudicial. The judge said he has a "right to a public trial, not a media trial." I imagine it's a bother to them due to jury selection, the hassle of increased security, too many prople inside and outside the court, the pressure of being scrutinized by the public/internet for every detail etc.
@@georgieeve2026😂
Because just before the slayings occurred, the police were not being held accountable for misconduct. The misconduct continued because the Judges and Prosecutor protected those officers. That misconduct has resulted in the police bending the rules and falsifying records in this case. The Judges and attorneys masquerading as the "State" are in damage control mode.
@@deannarobinson4065 ?
My read on this is, the hearing is about discovery, which will probably be decided, but the defense wants to show 'how the decision/judgement is 'argued'' and use that 'argument' to let the public 'infer' that "Oh, the state is hiding something by fighting discovery". Of course, their argument is that that is what the state has been doing, using 'actions' of parties to 'infer' malice or guilt. It's like how the defence, rather than using Trial or Sentencing phase, uses 'Innocence' phase and whatnot, to try and 'infer' stuff rather than actually presenting evidence.
This judge seems to have trouble making decisions, without needing days or weeks to think about it. I think the severity and complexity of the case might be somewhat overwhelming, but I guess it would be for most judges in small towns.
I think the judge is being careful because its a death penalty case. He doesn’t want to make a mistake that could cause the case to be overturned on appeal.
That was definitely a shush and then she looked at Santa and they giggled. What is going on?
I get frustrated that the prosecution can say that the defense is saying "utter nonsense" and impugn their integrity but it isn't until the defense tries to respond with specific examples that the judge steps in and tells them to knock it off. Why wasn't what the prosecution said enough to warrant the "stop making it personal" commentary? Feels like the prosecution can say whatever they want and the defense is expected to just deal with it or get reprimanded when they defend themselves.
The only one with the right to a fair trial is the defendant
💯
FACTS!!
The judge is not doing his job. He needs to be removed.
She Actually said "Shush"! ... Holy Cow!
Why is this judge protecting the shady behavior of the prosecution???
Is he Really this timid? ... I wonder ...
The judge is arguing that he doesnt want to rule on EACH piece of evidence, its too inconvenient, that in itelf denies him a fair trial.
Exactly! Like I’m so sorry judge that you have to actually do the job you’re being paid to do but that is how it goes
Now they are saying the PCA is irrelevant. Now what?
Is that a thing in Idaho?
With a grand jury indictment, I guess the PCA isn't relevant.
@@aisle_of_viewexcept they used the PCA to get the grand jury indictment
This stinks of either corruption or spooks.....
I am with the defense. I want to see all the tea in this trial? Will this trial be televised when and if it goes to trial?
Pretrial hearings being public really matters on that front. A whole lot more than people understand can and does get hidden from juries.
You should see how much the judge in the Depp Heard trial tried to bury and keep from the jury. And the public.
If Heard didn't have the worst team in the world. She could have easily won that trial. The tampered with photos were kept out. The tampered with meta data was kept out. All until Heard's team themselves accidentally introduced them. The defense wasn't allowed to mention any of it first.
The faked text messages were successfully kept out. They never even came up during trial. A year later in the pretrial transcripts that there were faked text messages finally came out.
In our country judges have way too much power over what evidence makes it into court. I've seen more than one judge rule cop's own body cams can't come in. Because they caught their very obvious misconduct.
Respectfully I wouldn't call a criminal trial "tea."
@@edwardscott3262 To be fair, that was a civil cause (not a criminal case) so evidentiary rules aren't all the same, and Depp's team wasn't the "defense", they were the plaintiffs.
@@april1039it’s just a saying that I want to hear all the evidence and they should be transparent
Taylor is not wrong that people are convicting Kohberger on the little info provided by the prosecution. It’s pretty rough in the comments trying to point out that most of the evidence is sealed and trying to get people to think about things like “If he really was just out driving, how would they prove that? Maybe with the cell data the prosecution hasn’t handed over?”
Hello Law Nerds and Paws. I have been off for a while. Hopefully, I can catch up more often. I have missed our times together.
People are already noticing how shady the prosecution are. They are definitely withholding information because they know what they have will free him.
There are still people that loo, at this mess and say "BK is guilty. If he wants the stuff the state is hiding he can just go find it himself" it's insane
I'm a William & Mary Law Grad and current attorney by profession with an impeccable 18 year service record. I'll address the preposterous comment you made about the State not having a case. When this trial starts Mr Kohberger and his lead attorney (Ann Taylor) are going to get absolutely eviscerated with the amount of evidence they have against the accused. Go ahead care to take me on with your ridiculous assessment?
*WAITS* For a reply
I could have sworn they already had a meeting on the judge needing to lean on the FBI to get info and both sides were in favor of it?? From this, I guess not. I think he needs to do that ASAP.
All I can say is that Anne Taylor has the patience of a saint lol. I can't imagine how frustrated I would be in her position, and to have the judge laughing and making excuses for the prosecution and then complaining about needing to do his job? It's shameful how much this has turned into a circus.
Just FYI the Brian K. closed hearings were cancelled because the prosecution handed over some discover. A new & public hearing will be held on I think May 30th. There should be a new document about it. Recovery Addict covered it yesterday.
Good to know. Thanks.
So it seems Ann Taylor is correct & it's not "utter nonsense, that we aren't turning over information" . Funny how they quickly came up with some of it.
incorrect. The prospectors provided nothing. they has proposed to label PCA as "irrelevant" . the state is saying they cant provide evidence to back up their many claims in PCA and wont use them in the trial
@MinddyMars how can the PCA be irrelevant if that's what they used to arrest Bryan? Unless they used some other information they're not telling us about 🤔🤔
That's not why it was unsealed.
The judge received filings from both the defense and prosecution on what will be discussed and determined the hearing will be vacated and rescheduled as a public hearing other than the IGG information agreed on by both parties.
The judge determined if anything came up that should be sealed they will close the hearing for that.
Edit: "After reviewing the submissions of the parties filed on May 7, 2024, and May 10, 2024, the
Court has determined that the hearing will be open to the public."
I'm so confused. How can the prosecution issue a probable cause warrant AND go to trial, on information they don't HAVE?
Further, how can any prosecutor use any Fed information in their case if the Fed's never had to turn it over? That just seems rife fr abuse.
My husband was in the parking lot at Walmart yesterday and he heard someone listening to you in their car 💜. He was kinda like your son and was surprised to hear someone besides me watching and talking to you and the fuckery du juor. He was like “Oh I guess she is famous”! I was like SIR- over 750,000 subscribers
Why does the FBI have the right to withhold evidence/information... ?
Because they're a law unto themselves. They're bowing out of this imo
Technically in Idaho the law states that anyone involved in gathering evidence or the prosecution needs to turn over everything and cooperate. In practice, the FBI has immunity so if they don't cooperate there are no repercussions or ways to force them to. It would just mean that the prosecution wouldn't be allowed to use evidence obtained by the FBI at trial.
@@just-a-generic-username great explanation thank you. Well, I'm guessing then that it's possible that CAST is out...and the IGG
no matter which side you are, you have to ask why the state cannot produce any evidence after 1.5 yrs?
and why do the prosecutor beg for close hearings while the BK wants everything public?🙄 hope BK sues when he's freed
Hehas no grounds to sue under, unfortunately.
They have produced evidence. Where have you been.? They haven’t produced nearly all of the evidence due to a gag order in place for this case. You haven’t heard much of anything yet. Wait until the trial. You can’t hold someone in jail with no evidence. That is illegal and if they didn’t have any evidence, there would have been no probable cause to even charge him.
If I were the defense I'd include a powerpoint with a clip of the prosecution in every hearing from now until trial
Well done! Thank you for your professional commentary!
This case is the shadiest case I've seen
I watched this case from day 1. This judge IMO is appalling & weak. His smiling & smirking is disgusting. This case has Already been judged in the public eye by the Prosecutions statements to the public. All why Brian has sat in jail for over 2 yrs now all while being torn apart by SM & the public. It's truly disgusting. That prosecution attorney did hush Ann Taylor WTF.
Agreed 💯
He will be in jail over 2 years, but it's not even one and a half right now
Have you seen the delphi case...just ad shady.
It hasnt even been two years since the murders! he has been in jail for slightly under a year and a half. I mean i agree with what you are saying, I just keep seeing people say it’s been more than 2 years and no, it hasnt. What’s up with everyone’s warped sense of time lol
@@bluecrystalballdeath penalty cases take a lot of time in general. There is a lot that needs to be considered. The prosecution and the judge need to make sure the case is not going to be overturned on appeal. The defense needs to prepare a good case because a human life is on the line.
I think these cases should be carefully litigated. I dont want to see the case rushed because I dont want to see a potentially innocent person be killed for a crime they did not commit. I am not saying that Bryan is innocent. I have not seen enough evidence to make a determination on that yet.
The hearing was vacated and rescheduled as a public hearing on the 30th.
The IGG segment will be sealed and if anything develops that needs to be sealed they will close the hearing for that segment.
"After reviewing the submissions of the parties filed on May 7, 2024, and May 10, 2024, the Court has determined that the hearing will be open to the public."
"If, during the hearing, issues arise that must be addressed in sealed proceeding, the Court will
clear the courtroom and discontinue the live stream of the proceedings on the Court's
UA-cam channel."
Id love to hear a lawtube panel discussion on where the boundaries should lie between public supervision of the courts, the defendents right to a fair trial, and privacy rights of victims
I would ❤ to watch your reaction to the last motion to compel hearing... Anne Taylor is bringing the 🔥🔥🔥!!!
...and I'm here for it!
"Shush" is what I heard. I think it's pretty clear too.
Your Honor, I would like to call the moon and the stars to the stand.
"Narrative" is a synonym for "story" ... who gets to determine whether the public has the "right" "story"? Smells....
It sounds like she says “shush” but it only makes sense that she would say “judge”, so I tend to lean that way. I cannot imagine they would be that unprofessional.
I have so many feelings about the fact that they're beyond the speedy trial period by over six months and the state is still fighting discovery.
Basically Kohberger was given the choice between a speedy trial and a competent defense, and he was forced to forefeit one right to preserve the other. That's not how rights are supposed to work.
I mean if you want a good defense.. it’s probably best you don’t rush things. So waving his right to a speedy trial was the best thing for him. You can’t have a competent defense AND a speedy trial. Defense won’t be as good if things are rushed.
@@Jazlin92665 But the cost is your entire life. BK is probably lucky; his family probably collected all his things from his apartment and stuck them in their garage or whatever, and if he gets found not guilty, he can go home and he'll have the tools to rebuild his life. A lot of people will always believe he got away with murder, but he won't be homeless.
But for a lot of people, if they spend two or three years in jail waiting for their day in court, being found not guilty is a hollow victory. They get released, and they have still lost everything. They were evicted from their apartment and everything that was there is gone; their car was repossessed; they don't have a job; their money is probably all gone on commissary and phone calls; and they have a multiple year gap in their work history that they have to explain.
In the current system, the cost of a good defense for too many people is literally everything. And that price is just too high.
😲 She absolutely said "shush"
Is there someone like above idaho that can look into this. They're so messy. Not even just this trial....alot of things need to change if they don't want to seem shady and weird
If something prejudices the jury against the state..... well then the state fucked up and shoukd lose.
Its the states job to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty. If something makes it harder for the state to prove guilt.... well why are they bringing a case if they cant get past reasonable doubt? So what if their job is made harder, they shouldnt have brought the case if they arent 100% sure.
Weird how anything that makes the prosecution look bad is done under seal and any hearing where the prosecution might get to excoriate the defendant like the alibi stuff they're happy to do it in open court.
Gov wanting to filter information given to the public is rarely a good thing. The public shouldn’t have information without the context? George Orwell much? It’s so condescending.
35:33 At this point, I'm under the impression the guy is innocent, and this is a railroad job. I will wait for court to prove me wrong.
Whether he is guilty or not, it really seems like they want to rail road him into a guilty verdict and don't care that there is a possibility he might be innocent. It's also maddening that Judges seem to act like part of the prosecution team so damned much. A lot of Judges seem to forget or ignore that it's the government's burden to prove guilt and the defense should have every tool possible to defend their client. Yes. they may be guilty. Yes, they may be horrible people. But the presumption of innocence must be maintained so that innocent people don't do decades in prison repeatedly because judges are too concerned about being "tough on crime".
Was the door dash driver who delivered food at 4 am ever considered a suspect?
This is getting so shady. I'm side eyeing this judge so hard rn.
I worry anytime the State argues against transparency
Excellent breakdown Emily
It seems like Judge Judge is WAY overthinking every single decision and I wonder if he does this on EVERY case he sits on or if he’s freaking out because this case is so public? Treat this case like every other murder trial and get on with it!
Could be he is overthinking, but I think it is the nature of such a high profile case that he is more likely just being cautious.
Unlike some states where motions to compel are not filed publicly but worked out between parties without a hearing' Idaho requires all motions to compel be filed publicly even if parts are sealed and that complicates things for the judge.
PLEASE consider doing an Emily Show on the Daybell trial. Not for the content but for the way the court room is run. It is so fluid and respectful (given the subject) in terms of how the lawyers behave. Huge difference to Depp, Murdaugh and Rust trials. I enjoy the way everything is orchestrated by the judge and both lawyers comply with decorum and respect the judge. Perfect judge for such a distressing trial. (I may not like the defense lawyer's style but he's defending the shit out of a very poor case.)
I couldn't agree more. That trial is perfect. Both sides and the judge know their craft and are giving it all they've got.
I was listening to a but of prosecution questioning and it was so clear and concise and it made me weep for Lally.
@jediping
Who's Lally? I've been watching it most days, and that doesn't ring a bell.
@@Julia-uh4li The prosecutor. So hard to follow!
She doesn’t do cases involving children.
While I understand BK waived his right to a speedy trial, however much was due to discovery issues from the start. Meanwhile, BK (presumably innocent until proven guilty) sits in jail without being able to proceed with trial because Ann Taylor is unable to do her job.
Poor Judge Judge, having to actually do the things he's paid to do. Let's all say a pray for him and light a candle. 🙄
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Why is the judge looking so amused by AT and her frustration? 40:46
The State: Trust us, this man has to be put in front of the fire squad. I am very happy I move out from USA. It seams more often then ever that anyone at any time can be locked in jail just because.
Sir if evidence doesn’t exist- why was it included in the Probable Cause document? 52:03
I believe the state has the ability holding the report. It's a game, with someone's life at stake.
Omg i have’t watched you in ages! So glad i came back ! My mind was hearing way to much f**kery !
Why would the FBI gather information about a crime- but then withhold it from the local prosecutors? What reason would they have for not releasing information to the DA? I am so confused!! I thought the FBI was gathering evidence to prosecute someone. WTF other reason is the FBI collecting evidence if not for use in criminal court? 48:20
Either
1. They used illegal unconstitutional means to get the info and that coming out would cause everything they got thanks to that info to be thrown out, and the public knowing it would cause riots when people find out the gov is illegally spying on everyone "to stop crimes" but sit back and watch the crimes happen
Or
2. It was leading up to midterm elections, people in two states were getting pissed at the ineptud of their current elected officials and their lackeys and there was a high likelihood of the people voting them out if the murderer wasn't found, so the fbi gave them a scapegoat and the media convicted the scapegoat. They weren't expecting a college student to know enough about what evidence should be available or for him to get a tough enough attorney to fight back.
Love your coverage Emily this case is wild, judge needs to start taking control & get trial started ASAP
That was definitely SHUSH
This judge hates having to make decisions and hates thinking people will be mad at him. Relate but maybe not a good personality for a judge
Ann Taylor is the GOAT
My sense is that the process used is flawed and the FBI doesnt want to own up to the issues.
Thanks for sharing this! And all your hard work 👍
The PUBLIC has a right to hear this case. Four college kids were murdered. Sending your kids off to college is likely the first time in anyone's lives when your kids are "moving away" on their own for extended periods, their own homes and bills, etc. We all know how NOT grown up and safe you are in your 20s, especially at college with a bunch of other not safe 20s....
We, as a country, need to know what happened and what is being done about it.
ALL these agencies are PAID with taxpayers funding and we have a right to oversee and witness and come to our own understandings about the work that was done here and what was/wasn't found.
The only thing being protected here are the agencies and THAT is inappropriate at any level.
Idk, although "hearings" are not "trials", what takes place at hearings (i.e. motions to dismiss) can constructively make or break a case, therefore, they should be public too.
Defense wanted a gag order & it was granted. You can’t have it both ways.
Exactly!
Gag order, outside court.
Open hearings, inside court.
@@sidewayssitter Disagree! The gag order restricts what can be discussed in a hearing as well. The trial is when the books are completely open.
@@bigtopper9418 Gotcha. Even so, if gag order is on specific sensitive items then ok. But hearings themselves should be open as part of the process. If we are going to put out lots of info on PCAs then at that point it’s already public info and should be followed through as such.
@@sidewayssitterhearings ARE open. But there is a gag order which means certain things are not allowed to be shared with the public. If there is a hearing and they are discussing things in that hearing that cannot be shared with us because it will violate the gag order.. then that hearing won’t be shared with us. Duh.
Lol Bill really went there about the PowerPoint 😅
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Unless it is a matter of National Security or to protect a vulnerable person (a child, for example) there should be a presumption of public access. It should require reaching an exceptionally high standard to close a hearing, so high that it rarely happens (excluding the previous exceptions I mentioned).
This is the same fucking state that managed the Daybell trials?? High profile as fuck with less fuckery. This judge needs to put his foot down.
This case is more and more painfully a patsy situation each day they def said shush 🤫
I heard "shush" and was like 😮
Why are any details other than charges ever considered for public consumption prior to seating a jury?
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SIR 36:47 Are you new to the bench? Why is it hard to get information from the FBI? Judge? 37:52 “I’m with ya”?Sir? Are you chuckling about a death penalty case? SIR!🐐🐐🐐🙉
The hearings on all of this have been reset and the one AT objected to being closed will now be open and a witness that can't attend has been given a separate hearing -- also open to public.
The round thing looks like the plastic bottom cut out of a potato salad container or something you would get from the deli
The defendant does not have the right to "try the case" in the media?? Um, yes.. yes they do. WTH?
The defense is the one that wanted the gag order!!!! And they’re the ones worried about potential jurors being biased!! That’s what the surveys were about. That lady is confused and doesn’t know what she wants.
Any evidence gathered should come with the methodology used to gather said evidence.
Yes it was the prosecution that spoke up and said judge
It sounded like a “judge” to me… as opposed to a “shush”