Avatar 2 - Jake Sully ENTIRE Family Tree Explained
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- After 14 years since the events of Avatar of 2009, Jake Sully’s family has gotten suprisingly big and it could be confusing if you haven’t recently watched the original movie and the new trailers. In fact, In Avatar the Way of Water, Jake and
Neytiri now have 5 kids since the battle for the tree of souls, 2 adopted and 3 biological. I think the reason James Cameron made Sully’s family so big is because the franchise will incorporate some family drama like it happened in many other franchises like star wars for example. And in this video I’ll explain the entire Sully family tree including all of their kids and some other family members that most people probably forgot about.
Starting with Jake Sully himself who was born on Earth on August 24th 2126. Since he didn’t have any interest in sciences he joined the marines. However, while serving in Venezuela he suffered a terrible injury and was paralyzed from the waist down. however His twin brother Tom Sully was a scientist with PhD honours participating in the Avatar program in Pandora. RDA grew an aftificial Na’vi human hybrid for Tom but, He was killed by a thief who tried to steal his wallet which is why RDA recruited Jake. The avatar body grown for Tom can only be operated by someone with the same DNA as him therefore to avoid loosing a substantial investment RDA recruited Jake to take his brother’s place.
After arriving on Pandora Jake operates the artificially grown avatar body and tries to become one of NA’vi in order to make them cooperate with RDA. However, Jake Sully falls in love with Neytiri the daughter of the Clan leaders. Her full name is Neytiri te Tskaha Mo'at'ite she is the princess of the Omaticaya clan and is choicen to be the future Tsahik, the spiritual leader of the clan. However, after meeting Jake and teaching him the ways of Na’vi for 3 months, they fall in love and mate under the Tree of Voices, one of the most sacred places for Na’vi which makes them mated for life.
Eytukan is Neytiri’s father, which makes him Jake’s father in Law, he’s the former clan leader of the Omaticaya clan and he was tragically killed by humans in the RDA’s attack of the Hometree.
Neytiri’s mother Mo’at is the spiritual leader of the clan and a mate of Eytukan, which also makes her Jake’s mother in law.
Mo’at also has a role of a shaman who can interpret and communicate with Eywa, a deity of Pandora which means that Neytiri also has the same abilities and we might see them in Avatar 2.
Neteyam is their first-born child however, we only see him in a couple of scenes in the trailer and we won’t really get familiar with him until the movie comes out. Neteyam is likely the next in line to be the future clan leader however this may not happen considering multiple theories about him dying in The Way of Water but we won’t get into these theories in this video.
Lo'ak is the second born son of Jake and Neytiri and from the trailer we know that there will be a love storyline between him and Tsirey the daughter of the ocean clan leaders, so possibly in Avatar 3 Jake Neytiri will become grandparents
Which brings us to Jake’s adopted daughter Kiri who also has 5 fingers and eyebrows, she was also born on Pandora but her birth is veiled in Mystery. Kiri’s human features maybe the result of Dr. Grace reincarnation though Eywa. In the original Avatar, after death, Dr Grace became a part of Eywa which also acts as a hive mind of PandaRO where all beings return after death only to be reborn again in the future.
The fourth child in the Sully family is Miles Socorro with a nickname spider, he is a human but raised as a Na’vi which is why his body is painted in blue stripes but he has to wear an exopack breath. We primarily see him in the teaser trailer and he appears to play a crucial role in the events of Avatar 2 which we’ll get to in just a bit. Miles is an adopted human child who was born on Pandora in the human colony base operated by RDA “Hell’s Gate”.
The fifth and youngest child in Jake and Neytiri’s family is Tuktirey their only biological dauter. In the trailer, we see her arriving to the Metkaiana clan location and in the scene in which Neytiri tries to escape the sinking ship with her. Tuktirey may have been kidnapped since on other shots in the trailer we see avatars holding Jake’s kids hostage on a ship
Just to recap, Jake Sully and Neytiri are the leading couple in the franchise. Jaka had a twin brother Tom and Neytiri had a sister Sylwanin. Neytiris parents are Eytukan and Mo’at however Jake’s parents are unknown. Jake had 3 kids with Neytiri, the oldest son Neteyam, the second son Lo’ak and the youngest dauter Tuktirey. They also adopted 2 other kids, Kiri a Pandora native and a human child Miles Socorro.
Correction. Miles is not adopted by Jakes family. He was raised by the scientists or the "lab guys" as Jake says. Jake also says Miles is not part of their family but is like a "stay cat" inseparable from the kids.
Edit: No, "A son for a son" does not mean Spider is now his son, Jake just repeated what Neytiri said before. Quaritch in a way took his son, now Jake has his.
Yes, I was so confused when I saw Miles in that family tree.
Also the kids usually call him “cuz” liek cousin lol
@@aniqausha. Im not sure. It sounds like it meant Quaritch took the life of his son while Jake has the Son of Quaritch. A son for a son.
Hey I don’t know why people say he is adopted by jake and neytiri
@@fallenangel_899well yea at the end now hes considered son
I know it creates drama and good story, but I'm disappointed in Neytiri if she really does treat the human child as an outsider. Jake is more responsible for the death of her father than the boy who had absolutely nothing to do with the first movies events. This is probably why Zoe Saldana said she cried in the first 20 minutes of the movie, maybe because her character will treat and innocent unfairly.
Edit: now that I have seen the movie I can see why she would treat Spider as an outsider and enemy, especially after what happens to her son. I won't spoil anything but Neytiri scared me a bit in the final fight. I thought she would kill Spider and probably would have, had she seen him sooner.
poor writing if Neytiri actucally dislikes Spider
RIGHT like her whole character development in the first movie is her overcoming her past traumas with humans and being able to care for humans like one of the Navi for example JAKE SULLY !!! I really hope they didn't do something so contradicting like we haven't waited 13 years for mediocre writing that conflicts with the first movie...
i think it maybe due to Spider being with them endangers her actual children and that causes a rift between her and Jake. i think this film is going to have Jake go back to his more Human roots and have him side with the humans way of things over the Navi.
i would love it if this film has Jake see both sides of the situation considering that he is the only one amoung the Navi who actually understands the motives of the RDA the Humans are simply trying to Survive and he protects Spider from the Navi because he understands all to well the situation the kid is in.
@@michaelkean5969 I'm all here for the multi-species family issues and how they'll overcome it
He should have came back to earth. There were no chances of him ever fitting in
I feel like Miles is going to want a Na'vi body like Jake and may be manipulated into going with the army so he can get a body so Neytiri can finally approve of him the way she approves of Jake who is also human. I think that his childish naiveté will be exploited, not that he will flat out betray his family. But just my theory, we shall see!
That’s also a good theory. Can’t wait to see what James Cameron (Jim for short) has in store for us this time😁
Edit: I’m going to see the movie this Friday!!! I’m super excited and can’t wait to see it.
What I'm wondering is how they've been getting new supplies of gas masks for Miles? They probably wear out over time, and as he ages, he's gonna did masks of different sizes.
@@SolarBrain4128 There are still humans that live on Pandora, not all of them were driven off, just the ones that threatened the lives of the clans
@@jayambi7695 Thanks.
I came from the future, your theory....is pretty close,but I think we will see it on next movie
Just saw the movie tonight and it’s NOTHING like you think it is. It’s absolutely amazing.
He was actually pretty spot on with everything except Miles (Spider)
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I’ve watched it too and he was spot on actually
It is a amazing movie.
R.I.P. Neteyam though😔
I saw it on Christmas Day and it was awesome the only thing that made me cry was when the humans killed the whale like animals that the Clan held dear and me being an animal lover and an understander of animal behavior with no formal training I felt more of a connection with the Navi Clan when they lost their beloved animal friends and for a few minutes it made me disgusted that I was human and maybe it’s because they were like poachers and killing animals just because they could do so and poachers do that in real life they don’t care if the animal is appreciated or if it’s endangered they just kill because they want a trophy and because they want to sell the ivory or the horns from a rhinoceros or the pelts of tigers and stuff like that! I know humans are hunters like the Navi and the native peoples here on earth have the same values in a matter of speaking in the fact that they take only what they need to survive and eat what they kill and the animals that have no use for food they leave them alone because it keeps balance
Edit: I saw the movie guys; So they explained how he lives his day to day. Thanks for sharing your comments.
I’d like to understand how Miles lives day to day having to wear a mask in order to breathe. How does he eat, brush his teeth, sleep, and not grow extremely irritated of an air tight seal on his face at all times?
Yeah its an interesting concept... I imagine he would just get used to the feeling but it would still effect his face having all that pressure on it, and what about the tech to refill the tank he needs for the air supply. I hope its not just brushed over.
It's almost like there are buildings where humans can still live in Pandora. The Navi didn't destroy everything.
Yeah there are still building with air locks for the other humans on Pandora.
@@josiahjray I guess we’ll see in the film. Although in the trailer it seemed like he was fully integrated and living within the tribe so I don’t see them being too close to human structures.
He spends a lot of time at Hell's Gate with the other few humans (Norm, Max and the avatar drivers) that were allowed to stay, because he needs breaks from wearing his oxygen mask and yeah he needs to eat. That's why he isn't seen a lot in pictures with the entire family even before the RDA came back. He's basically just part time with Jake's fam
Kiri being born from Graces avatar is actually something that comes from an older script from the first movie dating back to the 1990s. I remember reading about jake "having to give birth to himself" way back in 2009 on the wiki, and I think this is a carried over idea by James Cameron.
Interesting..
My god it sounds disgusting
@@ManiyaVinas Ya know the Dream Hunt had to be REALLY trippy.
@@ManiyaVinas it was before he arrived to earth, and it had something to do with his avatar body and how it had his dna, idk I’d have to reread it again
@@RHR199X If I remember correctly, Jake's avatar body was originally intended for his brother before his brother was murdered. But because his brother was a twin, Jake could use the avatar body intended for his twin brother because Jake's DNA is the same as his late twin brother's DNA.
Avatar was really ahead of its time with the graphics. I'm so excited to see how they improved their graphics.
Oh they fucking IMPROVED my goodness
Same.nothing to improve ! Avatar was already way ahead of its time
8:09 maybe they offer him a avatar because he just wants his mothers love and thinks having a Na'vi body will get him that
I was thinking, why don’t they make an avatar body for him? But then the humans probably wouldn’t be willing to do help by making the avatar body
maybe they don't have the technology anymore, since they fired the humans from Pandora. it's somehow already a miracle that they still manage to fill up/maintain his air container. he's like a handicapped child, who needs special requirement to survive/live a "normal" life. maybe that's also why Neytiri can't bond with him, on top of him being not from her blood.
you have to admit that you never saw handicapped navis in the first movie. does it mean they don't know illnesses? accidents? or do they just discard people with disabilities?... speaking, you rarely see people like this is native tribes, because they're dead already. i've read an interview of a native from an amazonian tribes, who was shunned because he was diabetic....
also, when someone is rejected from their family, sometimes their choose to break all ties with it. and i wouldn't be surprised if Miles decided to return to the human civilisation. he's still an adolescent, he takes radical decisions (that he might regret later...)
I generally believe the movie will kill off Neteyam because the trailer and synopsis talks about the tragedy the family is going to face. Tragedy usually meaning a death. Considering Lo’ak has most of the focus and he has romance with the Princess of the water tribe - I believe it even more. All the children apart from Neteyam has a focus point and to me - that screams he might die. Plus he’s the oldest, which will make it more heartbreaking when it comes to the story. Lo’ak is different, less accepted and younger - Neteyam seems to be a normal navi. So I assume Lo’ak feels less then his older brother, but at the same time he can’t measure up to him or replace his position in the story as next tribe leader without him gone. So Lo’ak having so much focus in the film - to me means he might take his brothers place after his death. Obviously this is just a theory.
Killing the eldest son of a great family, what is this Game of Thrones?
Also if Neteyam dies then that means Jake and Neytiri won’t have an heir. Lo’ak would be shoved to first place and probably have to choose the his people or the home he makes with the water clan
@@2007VolkswagenJetta how come Jake and Neytiri won't have an heir? Even when Lo'ak chooses to be with the water clan, Tuktirey is also their daughter.
@@AnhNguyen-lq5qo I think for them woman are the spiritual leaders and men are Chief. Like how Neytiri was the chiefs daughter but wasn’t going to be Chief when he died. That role was going to go to Suyte before he died. But I guess they can always choose another warrior to be Chief
I REALLY hope not
I'm thinking Kiri plays a big part in "Avatar 3: The Seed Bearer" or at least future films for the franchise. The story of her spiritual connection to Pandora doesn't go unnoticed.
Even this guy explaining is confusing
@@eugenemcdermott673it's clear and I agree with her. You're confused.
The way she can control the sea life too. Many times she should of used them but she didn't. She used them like twice.
@@gemsaint1485 Maybe because she is still young and just learning about her powers and how to control them? I definitely think there will be a huge scene in a future movie where Kiri uses her powers against a bunch of humans...
@@gumzy3000
Nah, more like that whole plot is gonna be the main part of the next film, they just gave us a taster. Now I gotta wait years again 😩. James better not croke on us and finish it in its entirety.
Here’s my theory about Kiri. In the trailer, It’s presumed Jake’s daughter Kiri is referring to Eywa. But I also believe she might also be referring to Grace. She feels Grace, she feels her heartbeat. It might be a reflection of her own heartbeat. Kiri is Grace Reincarnated. The Na’vi say that every person is born twice. The second is when you earn your place among the people. This is her second life, and Grace has earned her place among the people. I think Kiri refers to Grace as mom because she is unaware Grace was her past life. Kiri is drawn to Grace, she feels like she has a strong bond with her. And I really feel over time Kiri will remember who she was.
While the RDA uses technology to resurrect dead soldiers by making a COPY of them, Ewya can resurrect fallen Navi by simply transferring their soul into another body or newborn infant. Look at the Tree of Souls for example. It’s a very spiritual place where the Navi go to speak to their deceased loved ones. But if you look at the science, the Tree of Souls acts as a hard drive you could say. It can store a persons consciousness (soul) upon death. It’s not a COPY of their mind. It is their literal soul that can be uploaded to the Tree. And upon rebirth, their soul is transferred into a newborn. Their memories of their past life are locked due to the fact a newborns brain won’t be able to recollect all those memories at once. But as they get older they will start to feel a connection to their past life as more memories are unlocked. It is why the Navi believe in reincarnation. It’s not just a belief, it’s an occurrence that does happen. And I feel like that’s what happening with Kiri possibly…
the RDA make corrupted copies of a deceased person (they are the evil), while Ewya, The Tree of Souls, can transfer the original PURE consciousness into a new form (they are the good). Quadritch represents the corrupted force while Grace represents the pure force.
Isnt part of growing up as a Navi connecting with the tree of souls aka uploading themselves or linking up with their past life...
Sounds absolutely trite, blunt and juvenile. I enjoy Cameron for his curiosity about cinema, but no one ever hailed him as an expert screenwriter. The plot you described is something I'd expect out of Cameron, but I hope that I'm wrong, I really do.
They left it hanging in the end of the movie....
i just finished avatar 2, i think it’s like you said, but stil idk
Wowww. This is best theory I've ever read so far. You are smart
After watching the movie, its impressive how much he got right, there was obviously some wrongs, like his theory about Spider, and why the water villiage is burning, but all in all he got an impressive amount of stuff right
Yup
In the newest trailer for Avatar: The Way of Water, it shows Mo’at with Jake and Neytiri presenting their newborn baby (who I am assuming is Neteyam) with their Olo’eyktan and Tsahík clothing in front of many other Na’vi. So (at least in that part of the movie) Mo’at is very much alive.
When you think about it, all of Jake's kids are actually his brother's kids
no
Hmm yeah
Bruh.. what did I just see..😢
@@Escaperrealitynnow No. I don't even need to think about it. His brother's avatar was not connected to him, it was his. But when they gave Jake the job, now the avatar was from him, and he owned it. If the brother revived, he couldn't get it back. Plus the soul of Jake's human body is inside his Jake's Avatar and it's him. Neytiri felt in love with Jake, not his brother. So don't jump to conclusions without thinking
No, the kids wouldn’t be a thing if it was Tom, because they have different personality’s, if it was Tom, the Navi would be obliterated by now. Also what makes the navis person is there Personality not dna.
About Kiri she can maybe talk to animals and understand animals and connect with ewya much better then anyone else because at 6:07 to 6:41 he/she talks about Kiri’s father and it could be ewya because grace is with ewya and her avatar is pregnant so after the failing of the Navi trying to save grace, she died and she where probably pregnant already so they had to get her baby out of the avatar after try to save grace or just before
Remember this is just a theory, I’d like to read you’re ones!
Rosalie this is actually a really good theory! Thank you for sharing! ❤
since i'm pretty down to earth, i'd rather go for a simpler explanation : Grace fell in love with a navi, had a baby with him, but then the school was shut and the navi guy fled with/hid the baby (other option : Grace asked him to hide their babygirl to protect her from the humans)
Grace died, became one with eywa, and communicates with her daughter through Pandora's biological network. maybe he conscience is stronger than the natives' and this is why she's able to do it? like, maybe it was thanks to grace that the whole fauna of Pandora came to the rescue during the final battle in the first movie.
@@Ysckemia Grace died, but her Na'vi body was still alive, so I thought somehow she could still get pregnant. Like someone raping a person forever in a coma. That would be sick and morbid lowkey.
@@enzoamore8971 lol! no disrespect but this is wrong and i really hope you're wrong! :'D
besides, grace's avatar was burried. how the hell a newborn would manage to get out of grace's grave?
@@Ysckemia lol yea that would be crazy. It's just one of those crazy ideas that came to mind when the guy said that Grace's Na'vi is still alive. That would be so dark
*After watching The way of water you're actually 90%-95% accurately correct about the family tree.*
I am so happy you're back! Once again you've made another 10/10. Can't wait for the next video!
Neytiri and Spider will be probably like Catelyn Stark and Jon Snow.
YeH, except spider is most likely not the true heir to the throne lol.
@@Southforthewinter Neither was Jon. Even if there were marriage rites, polygyny hasn't been practiced in Westeros for two centuries, and Ragger's marriage to Elia can't be annulled because she already gave him a daughter and a son. Jon is a bastard. Jon grew up as a Snow, but even when his parentage is revealed, he'll still be a Waters.
1. The mom is alive 2. The oldest son does die 3. Spider is not an adopted son, he is best friends with the other kids 4. Spider lives on the base camp thing if you will. 5. Natiri does not show the same kind of connection with Aiwa, however kiri, her adopted daughter does.
6. Spider is Quaritch’s son
Spoiler warning...
not you giving spoilers ☠️
Please put a spoiler warning above
damn at least put spoilers for other ppl
Bro, it's amazing you can tell this plot correctly a month before the movie just out several days ago. I watched the Avatar 2 and there's only one word : Outstanding
James Cameron has mentioned at least part of the film, I don't know how much, will take place on earth. So whether that's a prequel scene of before the events of the first film or something else is anyone's guess. I think that's certainly an interesting plot point, as far as how earth comes into the plot and which characters might be on earth. I guess it could be as simple as a scene of Jake as a human marine before he was paralyzed, which we don't know a whole lot about him before he was paralyzed.
Theres a lot more family drama in The Way of Water than most Cameron movies
Just realized that Avatar 2 comes out when my final exams for this semester are due. So sad I can’t see it on day one lol
Well, at least you'll see the movie on the big screen. I'm not sure because of the sanctions that I will watch it in the cinema😭
It's such a shame that after so many years of expectations, your dreams are being ruined.
Yes, I will be lucky to find it on the Internet. But this is the kind of movie you need to enjoy on the big screen
The movie was more sad then anything especially because a lot of animals were hurt.
I cried the whole time
Yeah...so many unnecessary deaths to drive a point home...I cried the whole time, too 🥲💔!
The whaling scene in particular was really difficult to watch. 😕
Neytiri being Prejudice against Miles just doesn't make sense. She fell for a human. And miles was too young at the main battle of the first movie
The fact that Neteyam died just killed me inside and it hurt so bad and seeing Neytiri so full of anger and rage and wailing during Neteyam's death just ugh idk that shit fucken hurt!!
My favorite scene was when Loak stood up for Kiri. He has his dad’s humor by “That’s called a punch, bitch”
You also failed to pick up something on the scene where the Recoms (armed Avatars) have attacked the Metkayina village and apparently taken hostages. There are a few frames where it looks like the nearest Avatar (assumed to be Quaritch) tries to guide Spider forward and he makes a motion refusing his touch.
To add on, it looked like the Avatar also had its hand on Spider’s neck (using his hand to hold Spider hostage, meanwhile, he’s also pushing him forward)
Y’all were right
I’ve been misshearing Kiri’s name 😭
I first I thought it was Kittie
Then Katie
But I found out it was Kiri.
Thank you! Wether Avatar will explain each kid in the sequel well enough to remember, safe to say we can go to the movies without getting confused on who is who.
Curious to hear everyone's thougts here, know im breaking my own suspension of disbelief here... But... The RDA spent an exorbitant sum of money to make the hybrid avatars... Why did they give them the ability to reproduce?! Or was it some other sadistic way they hoped to manipulate the natives?
Yeah lol
Still surprised jayce's avatar is fertile at all
Maybe they didn't know? The Na'vi don't breed like we do they use their tree-God... if the tree-god wills it, so it shall be...
Perhaps it’s actually a design feature? As you said. Avatars are super expensive to make on Earth and ship. I wouldn’t be surprised if they intended for the avatars to carry and birth new future blank avatars, or hell, to be fertile for experimental reasons.
It’s most likely based on Spain’s colonization and trying to wipe out the natives through intermarriage created more citizens loyal to Spain/Spanish rule through integration,
@@NaviRyan interesting take, very similar to early Hellenic expansion across the Mediterranean, Aegean, Ionian and black seas.
I think colonel Quaritch will have a big character development I mean yes he was the villain in the movie but he will eventually see what his son (miles) see's in the navi culture, this way Quaritch will probably turn good. Cuz u cant really have a character be a villain for 5-6 more avatar movies. But I really hope to see kiri's mom grace be back on the big screen or even trudy.
I loved the movie and the aspect that Quaritch has a son is juicy character development it gives him a reason to change or to be more open minded. I also feel like that angle will make for conflict in later movies like Spider vs his father if he doesnt ever try to see the navi in a diffrent view.
i honestly can’t stand he was so heartless and narcissistic so many times throughout both films
There is also Neytiri Great Grandfather who rode the Bird thing that I forget the name of
Toruk?
@@Life.S0urce yeah thatd it taruk makto thank you
@@eddiemeggs4018 just to let you know Neytiri says 'my grandfather's granfather was Toruk Makto' so it wouldn't make sense to include him if we dont know the rest of the past family ancestors
@@Life.S0urce Makto?
@@SewingMink160 well kinda?, toruk is the dragon’s name; toruk makto is the person who tames it
Idk why every thing is saying that Spider is one of their kids... he’s not! After seeing Avatar 2 you can tell he was sort of taken in but not really considered one of their kids. He’s more like the whole tribe\the remaining humans responsibility it’s just that he’s friends with Neytiri and Jakes kids that’s why he’s always around them. But I think the movie makes it clear that Spider is not considered one of the Sullys
I am so excited. The only way to see the movie is at the theater. I
Can hardly wait. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I picked up so many good details from this video. Great job!
Jake Sully was busy! 🤣
After watching the movie, almost all your perception and theories are right. Very good observer!!!
An idea of how Miles might be manipulated; “Kid, you help us find them and we’ll get you an avatar.”
He’s the only human, and being able to have a body that closer resembles that of his non-human family would be a HUGE temptation.
Not only being closer to hi family but also not having the risk of death that comes with having a human body in such a hostile environment. He cant even breathe without that mask on...
i do think that will be part of the plot him possibly wanting his own navi body
Yeah, just as Jake getting his "real legs" back if he played nice with Quaritch. It could be that he is meant to mirror his adopted father in this way.
Ummm this was amazing. Thanks so much for this. I’m super stoked for this!!!!
How are the oldest kids so old if the same amount of time has passed between the first and second movies as in real life? Do they age faster as kids, and then slows down when they get older?
They're not human, so no surprise they age differently.
James Cameron has said that 15 years have passed since the first movie.
Kind of off topic, but I'd love to understand why they made the Avatar's able to breed. I would think that how it is in real life, hybrid animals and clones are typically sterile. What kind of benefit would it be to make the Avatars produce sperm/eggs? Is this just a plot hole?
I think because technically they are not hybrids 50/50. They obviously have more Na'vi DNA with just enough human DNA to link.
Firstly, all hybrids being infertile is a common misconception. There is no law in biology that says that hybrids must be infertile, and the list of known species pairs that can produce fertile offspring counts in hundreds.
Some examples:
polar bears × brown bears
wolves × jackals
wolves × coyotes
spinner dolphins × stripped dolphins
@@bleakpath8587 Agree except Nav'i with humans does not compare to the polar bear and grizzly bear. At least the bears are from the same genus. Na'vi and humans don't even share the same evolutionary path. Maybe there's lore around but this is the reason I think when avatars are created, they mostly use Na'vi DNA and just a bit of human DNA.
@@lauraportillo7575 all hybrids being infertile is a rule for most of hybrids ever existing on Earth. We have no proofs that that rule also exists in other planet. If they have totally different evolution path, they also may have the ability to mix with other breeds' blood. The Na'vi can connect their mind with other animals in their planet, can we humans do that to any other animals on Earth? Rules existing on Earth don't mean they also can be applied for other planets. We're not the center and not the general rule for the whole universe.
@@AnhNguyen-lq5qo We can concur based on observations in our own planet that extreme deference in biology cannot even create a hybrid. A human cannot mate with a shark and produce an offspring and a cat mating with a dog cannot produce hybrids. Hybrids have only been possible in animals that are genetically similar. For example chimpanzee is the closest genetic relative humans have. There were experiments done to try to create a hybrid. Those have not worked and that's with humans and chimpanzees having only 1% difference in DNA. Pandora is fantasy not science. If the world was rooted in science the Navi would have 6 limbs and females would have no breats.
Im watching this after having watched Avatar: The Way of Water, and I'm laughing at how right some things are, and how wrong other things are 😂
R.I.P NETEYAM 😢
I just hopes Miles, if he really ends up betraying them, redeems at the end of this film, or hopefully Avatar 3 in possibly 2024
2025
BETTER THEN THE FIRST PART. GO AND SEE IT ON 3D. ITS AMAZING. ITS MAGIC
I can’t wait for this movie to come out. This looks so good 😊
So many kids. They must be having fun in life.
Looking forward to this movie. It's been in production hell for a looong time.
Wow the theory was actuallt true Neteyam died😢
This makes me wanna watch the movie even more 😍
mo'at is still alive in the second movie. she can be seen in one of the Trailers where jake and neytiri present one of their babies in some kind of a ceremony..
its only for a short moment though
I doubt Miles betrays them, notice he is not exactly walking free, a Avatar soldier has a firm hand on his shoulder. Reminds me of Jon Snow with his "mother" Kaitlen Stark.
Lo’ak looks so much like Jake🥰
I liked the movie, but dang that ending made me want to cry it was so sad
Thank you for showing a glimpse into the movie brother, Peace
the entire movie i thought that spider was going to transfer his consciousness into an avatar body.
Nah miles wasn’t walking freely with them I can tell he won’t betray his family
Plus you can see A militia navi’s hand on the back of his neck, this scene may be leading to seeing spider being taken up to a helicopter so he was most likely extracted because he is human to be with his own ‘race’ so its most likely an interrogation with a empty promise thats gonna happen as these movies go
@@david3129 Yeah that could be it, the military was trying to save him from his "indoctrination" .
@@krazus2036 true true but i hope spider remains loyal to his father and family even if they may see him as an outsider Though i am finding it interesting they even allowed the birth- considering like they’re out in a ‘hostile’ environment with literally no breathable air, so it makes me wonder if he was born just before or after the first war
I wouldn't say Spider is their adoptive kid. I think he grew up with their tribe and was closest to Kiri, but adoptive kid? He was kidnapped and they left him there and moved away wtf? If it was any one of them, they would have gone back.
killing oldest kid was also such a predictable move. The film focused on the middle child and Kiri. They weren't gonna kill off an 8 year old, so older kid it is. The moment Lo'ak tells his brother he isn't one, I knew he had to regret his words later on.
This guy be mentioning humans in this video, like he navi for real 😂😂. I enjoyed that for sure
Miles didn’t leave willingly they took him by force
Other than you getting the brother mixed up on who’s older and who has the relationship this video is spot on
Miles, I think he is the son of Trudy. And I think he will save the Na'vi tribe which will makes Neytiri accept him.
Kiri, maybe will find out she is really Grace...
Trudy was killed in Avatar and was certainly not in any advanced stage of pregnancy when she was.
He's not, he was born on Pandora from a woman who was unknowingly pregnant before she left Earth and was 'frozen' in stasis within her on the six year voyage to Pandora, I think the new prequel comic coming out on the 6th of December shows this.
@@Novocon326 The mother of Spider died during the attack on the tree of souls in Avatar 1. They couldn't send him back to earth because he was too young for cryo.
Spoiler:
Spider or miles is the Cornels son his mother was a pilot who dies in the battle at the end of the first movie also Trudy was in a relationship with Norm at the time
“I am with you now Jake, We are mated for life!!”
I love this line because it's a so romantic relationship and line!!😭😭😭😍😍😍
I’m not sure if I’m the only one who saw this but I think neytiri might be pregnant? When she’s positioning herself to shoot the arrow, you can see a little bump
I highly recommend watching the second one. I just saw it a few hours ago. It's so good. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Technically his children are his nephews and nieces at least biologically.
not really considering that Twins share the exact same DNA. Jake and Tom are effectively the same person and you've also got the fact that Tom was dead long before the Avatar body was even created and there is also the supernatural element of the Avatar now has Jake's soul.
@@michaelkean5969Hmmm that's rare not all twins have the same DNA only monozygotic twins. Twins share alot of their DNA but there's small percentage they don't.
@@Ellie-rm4ho Identical twins share the exact DNA. Jake and his deceased brother are identical.
@@michaelkean5969 so if a man had gotten children, would his twin brother also be the father or the uncle?
@@enzoamore8971 Maybe he would be both.
to clarify, miles is not apart of the sully's family, as he was never adopted by jake or neytiri. he was raised by the scientists as jake says. jake says that miles is not apart of their family, but is like a stray cat following them around.
God I really REALLY want to know either Spider was born from Neytiri or was adopted but the more I think about it it could be possible that Spider was definitely born from Neytiri I mean think about it obviously the humans don't show up until when the children are way older and the way Spider looks seems to be around his siblings age not only that where in the hell would they randomly find a human baby not from the humans since they left or the newer humans and also his skin if you look closely he has Na'vi patterning on his body and it doesn't look painted on at all so this must have been a 1 in a billion chance of one of Jake's children being born mostly Human which kind of sucks since he has to wear a mask and most likely those are rare I mean for all we know Eywa must have blessed Jake son being born human or somethin like that for plotwise reasons like Neytiri's hate towards humans and healing her pain from her past and most likely bring their family closer together.
Any thoughts?
I know that all the soldiers they fought left after the battle. I'm not certain if the humans who helped the Na'vi also left. If they did not, Spider could be the child of those allies.
I'm so excited to see how they improved their graphics.
I just found out who's Jake's and Tom's parents :
*Camille Sully ( their mother )*
*Damin Sully ( their father )*
But, it is not yet known what their faces look like and *this is not 100% clarified.*
Miles ‘spider’ was at first definitely not their adopted son. In the whole beginning in the movie Jake even says he got 4 kids. Not 5. This was when Tuk already existed, only in the end of the movie did they actually adopt spider as their son.
a son for a son
im going to the cinema this week. i know i shouldnt expect too much screentime of sigourney weaver's kiri. but honestly. i cant wait to see her and how she plays her. its what im looking forward to the most
it was so good i loved the movie
@@dinnerbone444 is she in a lot of it? without giving too much spoilers
@@Elion1 i’d say she’s in a decent amount of the movie. not a whole lot, but not little for a new character
Neytiri: "Ma Jake, are we in some sort of trouble?"
Jake: "Oh Neytiri, my loyal wife. Of course not.... And Kiri, my little Princess... and who could forget dear Monkey Boy?"
Spider: "Monkey Boy?! I resent that!" *starts grawing on a Tree*
I really hope Spider doesn't betray the family 🙏
Correction =) i watched the movie and good thing Miles did not betray his family - Sully fam, he remained loyal to them even at the end.
Oops, I haven't even realized that Na'vi have 4 fingers instead of 5, up until now. The Avatar movies are so densely packed with amazing things, it's very likely to miss something.
I'd kinda like to know what the relationship was like between Jake and his human family, like his own parents and Tommy, especially since Cameron wrote a script for Jake's background
Anyone else confused he just said they had three kids lo’ak, netyam, and tuktirey and adopted two. Then later he says that Tuk is their only bio kid? I’m lost
he said their only bio daughter, since the other 2 are sons :D
He said 2 adopted and 3 biological
He said only biological daughter not kid.
Maybe Kiri was immaculately conceived? Through Grace's Avatar?
Not the biggest fan of this movie, just watched it a couple of times, so this will be helpful, for sure! Thank you!
I'm shocked at how many children they've got a green light on for this movie, actually! The hope is that everybody will get sufficient screen time and development! However it does makes sense they've decided to go for 5 because spin-offs and future movies.
next 5 sequels all set $$$$$$$$$ wasn't there a movie called "Children of the Corn" I guess the next 5 will be "Children of the Clan" as in Navi
Congrats on 1mil veiws
Wait, so Kiri was made from Grace's avatar and her mind was put in her? im a bit confused
Same, but I guess we’ll see in December
I don't think her mind was "put" into her, I think she is most likely her reincarnation, and she'll have a strong spiritual connection to Pandora but not fully understand her own origin until later
I just watched avatar 2 and it is the best, I would recommend it
and btw Neteyam does die sadly
I think you got the daughters switched. The youngest looks like a full Na'vi (4 fingers, no eyebrows) which would suggest she is, in fact, the adopted daughter
Their oldest also looks full Na'vi so your point is moot. She got her mother's genes, not her father's which is why she looks full Na'vi
it could be that she takes more after Neytiri than Jake considering that Jake is only half Navi makes sense that his genes would be the least Represented in their offspring.
They only have one bio daughter Kiri is Grace reincarnation
Guys don't missunderstand. Actually Jake's kids are Jake's kids, because in Avatar 1 they officially told Jake now that Avatar its officially of him. so No. I don't even need to think about it. His brother's avatar was not connected to him, it was his. But when they gave Jake the job, now the avatar was from him, and he owned it. If the brother revived, he couldn't get it back. Plus the soul of Jake's human body is inside his Jake's Avatar and it's him. Neytiri felt in love with Jake, not his brother. So don't jump to conclusions without thinking
I can’t wait for this movie
I am not religious or even a Christian but does anyone else think that Kiri is pretty much the Jesus of Pandora? She had a "virgin" birth from her mother Grace and the "spirit" which is her "father" is Eywa. We see in the second film that she has a very strong spiritual connection with Pandora where she can even manipulate nature. I think this will grow stronger with each film. She is probably one of the most powerful Navi because of her miracle birth.
A theory I have is that the humans will eventually destroy all the sacred places on Pandora and Kiri will sacrifice herself somehow to give life back to Pandora and save Eywa. It would play into the whole Jesus dying for our sins concept.
People forget that the colonel from the first film was killed by the combined efforts of Jake and Neytiri.
He has an avatar body in the sequel (shown in a trailer, so not a spoiler). I'm guessing they transferred his consciousness or memory over somehow, or he has a clone or something
Yeah I'm expecting it to be a twin brother who shared his ideals or a clone. It's not the original him though, that's certain.
Can’t believe you manage to make this short topic into a 10 min video.
Here's is a idea
It only depends on how much of Jake's human body was paralyzed. What if jake had a kid right before he left for pandora and only briefly knew about the kid as soon as he left earth. So the rda use that kid as some avatar super weapon and use the knowledge of the kid being jakes to split the family up and beat them.
Whoa me and jake have the same birthday
I am at a bit of a loss. I have watched Avatar many, many times, and nowhere is there a sister who was killed. Please correct me if wrong, but I feel I wouldn't have missed something so important.
Grace mentions it when Jake is going back into the Avatar after being taken to home tree. Where Jake says he’s got a date with the chiefs daughter. Also the extended version of the film (which I highly recommend) has a scene where they actually go to the school.
In the movie with the extended scenes, it shows scenes that included the sister (these scenes were cut out in the regular movie)
you have to watch the extended version :)
When you see the movie you get all your answers but also get more questions... I've seen it... It's fascinating I can't wait till it comes out on DVD
Half human half alien bloodline
I love this video. This is amazing
Am I the only one who thinks Kiri looks like Norm? Maybe she is born from the DNA of both Grace and Norm's avatars? Don't ask me how that would be possible, hahaha
Kiri is graces kid… but bc grace passed and the navi (i think that’s how you spell it..) could now make her a avatar. so the silly’s adopted her as their own. also little known fact the girl who played grace plays her daughter grace.
Looking like Tarzan 👀
This is one of the movie's you just know is going to be damn good!! We already reserved our tickets.