There are many car review channels out there but this one consistently provides detailed "real-world" evaluations. No fuss, no ratings, no quirks, no hype, just straight forward useable information. Thank you! This coming from a Tesla P85D owner.
Slight correction on the infotainment, it is powered by an Intel Atom E3800 series CPU exclusively. As of HW3, Tesla no longer use any Nvidia hardware in new production vehicles.
Fyi we did video on older model. Thats why I mentioned Intel and AMD as they are rumored to switch again. Do you know when they switched production in 2018 or when the cutoff was?
@@savagegeese HW3 switch over was in May 2019 but that was from HW2.5 which was also not NVidia. I don't think the Model 3 ever had NVidia for the AI computer as I think they fell out with Mobile Eye in ~2016. I'm less clear what the MCU computer was that controls the main infotainment and honestly this is the first I had heard it was powered by an Intel Atom but based on speed I could see it.
@@savagegeese April/May 2019 was when Tesla switched to their in-house designed HW3. Please note that the *infotainment* CPU is an independent system from the Autopilot one. Model S & X prior to March 2018 has a Nvidia Tegra 3 powered "MCU1" (which has ongoing lawsuits/recalls for faulty eMMC chips right now). Therefore iit is possible to have MCU1 & HW3 Autopilot if FSD was purchased. I believe since late 2017, all Model 3s are produced with Intel based infotainment. AMD rumors are still just rumors.
Thanks for being so honest about this car. As a car and tech enthusiast, I’ve watched hundreds of Tesla video, and this is the most genuine. Great job 👍
Hit the nail on the head. Quality definitely needs to be improved, but coming from a WRX it seemed nicer overall to me. I wanted that crazy acceleration, and the model 3 delivers on that
Most high horsepower cars have trouble handling an entire track day too, even cars that people believe are bullet proof, like some porsche models. If you drive hard you can get engine failures from oil starvation, overheated brakes, worn out pads, overheated diffs/transmissions, tires etc. Depends on the track/weather and how hard you push of course but a ~460hp car that can just lap all day without stuff wearing out is pretty expensive
I needed this to keep me from rushing into buying a Tesla. Maybe a used one when the next generation causes people to dump these. In 5 years there will be many EV choices.
Personally I'd do as you said and wait. We dont know if these cars have failures later in life and maybe a future one will be significantly better and fixes the current issues.
@@guidedprismg.e.w.p5673 there's definitely no a disadvantage to waiting but the batteries and motors are guaranteed for 8 years and there's plenty of Model S cars with over 200,000 miles already and those batteries and motors are not as good as what's in the new cars. Advances like the new heat pump are definitely a step in the right direction though
@@Shiftheads well tesla is going to be bankrupt soon, so a little wait will not hurt anybody. Instead, once the tesla goes bankrupt in 2 years time you can afford any tesla for penny's worth 😉.
Basically all true … Still 10k miles on my model 3 performance and each day is still just as fun as day 1. Autopilot is not “perfect” but still used daily. 2022 cabin is fine. Sound system great. For the price and how violently fast it is , who cares about the flaw’s for the price. Maybe upgrade the sway bar and coil overs? then most of the handling “issues “ (which are not really bad at all ) are gone.
I agree with most of what you say. However, the disposable discussion overlooks the fact that this car has and will get continual software updates to keep it feeling new and fresh. No other car has that. It's minimalistic interior also helps this point, as it can't really look dated with how simplistic it is. The UI of the screen is so much the character of the car, that a major UI revision makes it feel almost like a new car. Regarding handling, I think Tesla did a very good job based on their experience and history. You also have to remember the tires are abnormally skinny to improve range, compared to something like a BMW M3 or Mercedes C63. That being said, I feel it's an excellent handling car for the road, and considering it's weight. I've never experienced a car this heavy that feels so light. Most of it's ICE competition, such as the M3, weigh several hundred pounds less. Something like a Honda Accord 2.0T is near 1000 lbs less. The fact that a car this heavy handles this well on 235mm tires with an open differential is impressive. And track mode really opens up the options. For those looking for a dedicated track car, this isn't it. But if you want a practical and fun daily driver that is toss-able, capable, and quick, it's very compelling. On the flip side, I completely agree with the quality side of things. While the refreshed 2021 3 has the double pained glass and a few other improvements, interior noise and rattles could be better. Just a bit more attention to detail in this regard would be appreciated. But the interior feels sturdy and pretty durable. But I think it's a bargain for the money. No other company can currently give you this level of performance, practicality, and range at this price point. This will change, but Tesla still has the advantage of being fast to evolve and adapt compared to the competition. This is likely one of the reasons their Build Quality is worse. I look forward to 5 years from now when the 2026 Model 3 is competing with mid-sized near-luxury EV cars also in the $35-65k range.
make no mistake outside warrantee you are seriously screwed. IF the bulb on your headlights go ..normally it should cost about 30 dollars to fix ... trying getting a quote telsla its expensive in its hundreds
I lot of model 3 reviews I watched fall into the trap of treating the car as a tech gadget. They keep touting the features in the big screen and autopilot but talk about the car itself is limited to the acceleration. I was specifically looking for driving dynamics, suspension and such and Savage geese have covered it damn well. Great job
I now have a model 3 and am amazed how nice the car drives. It's extremely smooth and quiet. Awesome steering and acceleration. There are a few fit and finish flaws. However, they seem minor.
Good job Geese. Always doing the best reviews. Very few UA-camrs come to your level in car reviews. You remain very objective even when looking at cars like the Miata.
Just a suggestion, if the audio is kinda shit like in the driving impressions segment, could you please convert it to a mono track? It would get rid of that weird spatial offset sound.
Going to be very interesting over the next 5 years to see how fast Elon/Tesla can ramp up and improve. What they've done in a short period of time is amazing, not sure I'd bet against them.
I’d like to see T research and consider implementing discarded race tech like hydraulic hybrid and camber neutral steering. I think once they find a really stable suspension the benefits of the electric design with regards to weight distribution will catapult the Tesla, and the world into unimaginable performance levels. Like how about going on a ride where you choose the speed by how many G’s you feel. Complete interaction with it’s environment, communication between other enabled cars to keep us safe instead of speed limits, and the world will enter a new era.
How does this compare to other fast cars in this price segment? On one end the base vs. hot hatches; Type R, Golf R, Focus RS, and on the other, the Performance vs. truly fast cars; M2, RS3, CLA45.
The 15% reduction you mention in cold climates, is that due to simply battery temperature and decreased performance, or the additional loading due to heating the car....or both? Thank you
@Bucky Fiden I'd find that pretty surprising myself. When it's 0F outside, the heater running a significant period of time....I'd be quite surprised if it's only a 15% reduction in total distance. I feel like temperature alone could easily cause that 15% difference.
Austin, China and Berlin factories will/do have state of the art paint systems. Tesla is about to release a Model 3/Y with revised suspension. I have now a model 3 and it is not rough at all. SG is right about its shortcomings but it didnt take several more years to get items addressed. No unions and flat management structure.
@@DodgerBlueRobert he mentioned it in the video, they changed some things in the 2021 models, so things like the reverb from the glass should be better.
Fan on the channel. Just wanted to let you know the in-car audio seemed off-centre to me. Hard to explain, just didn't seem right. I was listening with headphones by the way. Cheers.
20:00 Thud, Thud, Thud ... they are getting beat to death on that road. I know because I rented a Telsa 3 in the same area. 22:40 is Hawley and 60 in Mundelein IL.
Crazy thing is on those runs you werent even near full charge so that was still down at least ten percent on power. Couldn't see how mahy miles it said of range but if it was less than 200 you were down over 20 percent of the power
Great review, but I have to disagree with your conclusion. Tesla is the only carmaker that makes the car better over time through software updates. That makes it very unlikely to be a "throwaway" appliance like an iPhone. Sure, the hardware tech gets better over time, but that is true for all cars. I for one will be keeping my Model 3 Performance for more than 5 years.
There have been a few prototype EVs with manual gearboxes like the Mustang Lithium and quite a few classic car to EV conversions with the original manual gearbox left in and mated up to the electric motor. Pointless perhaps, but give me a traditional feeling electric sports car and not a Tesla appliance and I might actually get excited over it.
I'm confident that in 5 years my 20-year-old Toyota truck will have still have less rattles and loose parts than that brand new Tesla. Build quality and quality of manufacturing matter.
Your selection of retro theme music for this review from the glory days of 8-bit console gaming and 80's TV shows...EPIC. During the intro, I was expecting to see you pop out of the car with a big red nose and giant floppy shoes (along with 13 more clowns) as a fitting "tribute" to Tesla's Model 3 Performance Gadget. Speaking of "fitting," I dumbed-down the resolution to 144p to smooth out those body-panel gaps, and add to the 8-bit 1980's vibe, which is where Tesla got their Airwolf-esque exterior styling, IKEA-esque interior design and QC specs from. Another fair and fantastic review of a car and tech-car company which, as impressive as it appears, does not impress me, for reasons you touched on: "disposable tech business model." The least environmentally friendly, least consumer-friendly, least QC-oriented, and most hype-fueled "business innovation" in history. In the new religion of technocracy, Elon Musk is both high-priest and prophet, comfortably slipping into the shoes of Steve Jobs. The faithful flock to him, bow down to his proclamations, and hang on his every word as gospel, prepared to change how they live and compromise what they know to be objectively right, in order to be welcomed into the cult of the future. A future which will see the technocratic hive-mind take precedence over the profound needs of individual souls meant to be here having meaningful ANALOG HUMAN EXPERIENCES. Tesla is little more than an 80's schoolboy's wet dream. And Musk is just a child of that era who found inspiration in Knight Rider's K.I.T.T., aspiration in Steve Jobs' cult-like following, and salivation over Bill Gate's tech monopoly: a transhumanist fanatic who will help usher in a "Blade Runner"-esque dystopia with the polish and sheen of "Oblivion" and the quality and reliability of Windows.
I'm sorry geese, you're missing it. You can't compare an ICE car or Hybrid to the electronic control of the Tesla. Also in track mode you can easily rotate the rear like a RWD car, and I know because I come from a 6MT 370Z Nismo which I used to slide every other corner, and the Model 3 Performance is just as easy to control and throw around. It is a bit heavier ofcourse but that corvette-like low center of gravity in a sedan and even better moment of inertia means you can't compare it to an ICE sports sedan, the ICE car is physically inferior in stability and driving dynamics. As much as you want to claim Tesla doesn't know how to make a driver's car, I am a car enthusiast, always have been always will be, I've driven an Aventador and a 458, the Model 3 Performance is one of the most fun cars I've ever driven, and definitely the one with the best throttle response. I don't know why you claim the brakes are mushy, they're 2-piece 14" Brembos all around...the brake fluid and pads can be changed but this is a conventional performance brake system, nothing Tesla did. I don't have the same observations as you at all...You're trying to claim the Tesla isn't a real car because "they're too new and don't know how to make one", but that's simply a false claim. Musk killed ICE cars for me, and it will do that to all as soon as they can realize what the difference is, problem is people can't realize it and also like sticking to the past....
Its amazing how the "Teslarati" overlook the obvious shortcomings of the vehicles and plunk down huge cash for them regardless. Seems as if all Tesla owners are beta testers of a sort. Cool technology though.
The quality control issues apply across their line, as they're built in the same factories. Ride quality will be different, and likely pretty smooth, and sound insulation will probably be better as there was less cost cutting. It generally got better reviews for its interior.
Great review. In fact, the Car Wow reviewer should listen to your points when he says the Tesla 3 is a better car than a Polestar 2. I don't think Tesla can make better cars than Volvo. It may have way better performance and efficiency, but you bring out what makes a car better and where Tesla is lacking. That's not to say it isn't a great accomplishment or a different, interesting car. It isn't. But yours is a balanced look at the automobile as an automobile, not just as an EV.
A classic example of performance taking precedence over quality, longevity, and exclusivity. Here in Southern California, these cars are as common as the Toyota camry. It really is sad that people ignore so many things that are historically treasured in a $55,000 car. Tesla ranks among the worst of 26+ auto manufactures as far as quality and reliability. My guess is that resale value (lack thereof) will reflect this.
I just can't swallow the interior. Looks so cheap, minimalistic with that giant LCD slab dominating the space like they ran out of ideas and just glued one in the middle...it's honestly some of the worst interiors I have ever seen. You just have to be in certain mindset to spend all that money for a half product, just to be on a green wave and show everyone your moral, climate aware, superiority. I don't give a shit about eco-friendly green story or any other progressive shit, so it's definitely not the car for me.
I wonder how much a gauge cluster and some climate control knobs actually add to the cost. That add-on option would actually be useful instead of paying to beta test their buggy self driving.
@@THESLlCK I'm no vegan, but some the so-called vegan leathers are really nice. Half the people who think they have leather seats have some kind of leatherette, and don't even know it.
And yet still wrong on facts. This uses an intel atom processor, not Nvidia which was abandoned after they switched to MCU 2.0. Also everything can be controlled by voice, which is the redundant controls.
Did not cover track mode or sentry mode/dashcam. Did not test sound system. 0-60 is 3.1, 1/4 mile 11.8 not stated. Incomplete review. There is so much more.
@@Samuel-ym7ls but don't worry. They covered how my 300 mile car is irrelevant after 5 years because it's an iphone 1. Like I am going to landfill my 50k car where it covers 100% of my needs but I am merely inconvenienced a few more mins at the supercharger twice a year when i go on road trips. Wtf kind of thinking is this. They take this computer on wheels thing a little too far, as if my car in 5 years can't accelerate at 60 frames per second or something because the computer will be too slow..lol. Got to upgrade because your car can't handle 4k and ray tracing driving dynamics. You will not reach your destination due to dropped frames.
@@Samuel-ym7ls Sound system was tested in the previous base level video, feel free to check it out. Also, if you want cookie cutter videos which spew out the Wikipedia page and review commonplace aspects which are already covered a zillion times on UA-cam, then you're on the wrong channel! :)
Like every UA-camr he still has a level of bias, it’s impossible to not, just makes sense that all of these you tubers are good resources when looking for a car, but never base a decision solely off of them
@@savagegeese It’s kind of weird how you complained it cost $1000 to get your hands on a model 3 with the FSD beta, but you didn’t show a single clip of it in action. You showed the standard AUTOPILOT...that comes with every car. Look up any FSD beta video on UA-cam and you can clearly see the difference in the UI. It’s a dead giveaway. Very misleading, and misinformative to the viewer. FSD costs 10,000...that’s 1/6th the price of the actual car. I expected you to fully review the state of the beta and show examples of what you liked and didn’t like, and what exact improvements could be made. I don’t even think you have the beta bro. also the collecting data part, there is no way to create a fully functional autonomous car that can adapt to every environment without the use of machine learning, collecting data is essential, and no other automotive manufacturer could do it any other way. The most effective and efficient way to do this is through the millions of miles the customers will drive, it’s not as bad as you make it out to be.
@@JonFiya I cut out the additional ramblings of the FSD beta largely because it didnt work in our area until we got onto the Toll Way which was a 30 minute drive just to get there. What you saw was part of that trip to the tollway. I discussed it during final thoughts because we have a Tesla Model Y video also coming that is large part is identical the Model 3. So for purposes of spanning content I will make that a focus of that video. And before you make some kind of claim like I "made it up or didnt have it." you may ask yourself why would we do that? What would be the benefit to anyway including renting a model3 for the sole purposes of testing that function. (Which I have reciepts for and proof of the, car VIN that had the full beta enabled.) Did I gloss over it, yes. Does almost every Tesla fanboy that treats these cars as religion get butt hurt when you say something is less than perfect, yes.
Man, Mark! You weren't kidding when you said that car is an echo chamber! In all the cars I've seen you give commentary in, or just talking to Jack, none of them sounded that bad.
This is one of the only Tesla reviews that seems genuine, honest, and no bias. Even my boys over at throttle house sounded like they were trying to sell Tesla's.
After almost ten years of Tesla news and reviews, this is the first review that was right down the middle. It’s about as unbiased as it can be. It’s nice just to learn about the car.
The audience for this kind of content isn't that big. The more intelligent and mature it is aimed to be, the smaller it will be. Adding quality is superior to adding any kind of quantity, since the existence of one example adds that reality to the collective consciousness, so to speak. Quantity is so much easier. Of course, in some contexts there may be a practical need for quantity, so that has to be fulfilled. But that's a different stage of the process.
Because the reviews are technical, because he isn't an especially slick presenter, and because he is often reviewing performance cars that few are shopping for.
Nah. I watched his review of the base model and then got a model 3 performance. Everything he said here is valid though mine seems to have dodged all the assembly QC problems that other M3 owners complain about. All the gaps are lined up right, no paint issues, no rattles, squeaks, missing parts or anything. I just wish they were more realistic about your ACTUAL mileage you will get from these cars. Rated for 300 but real world interstate road trip for me and lots other M3P owners puts it more around 270~ish range if you keep the speed at around 70~75mph. No one talks about the real world money savings going EV, especially if you are leaving another high performance car. I was paying around $200/month in fuel costs for my Scatpack Dodge Charger and now average around $45 a month in electricity kwh consumption but since I have averaged billing, that extra cost is absorbed and my actual monthly power cost only went up about $8. The car isn't perfect but it ticked enough boxes for me to jump on it and IMO, this is one of the best daily drivers out there. If I had to do it over again, I probably would have saved a few bucks and gotten the dual motor version. It's still really quick but about $10,000 cheaper. Oh and speaking of $10,000, the full self driving upcharge is a joke. The standard issue autopilot is already great and can easily get you along just fine with minimal baby sitting. It just doesn't change lanes for you. I can do that perfectly well and save $10G's.
The frameless door windows seem like a risky choice for a company so inexperienced in car design/manufacturing. That’s gotta be a big contribution to the wind noise.
@@twystedhumour you can buy various after-market sound proofing kits for model 3s, but most reviews conclude the it makes just a marginal improvement. i owned a 3 series bmw (f30 2013) and a model 3 tesla and I would say that the model 3 is very quiet
I hate what this particular american startup stands for. Its like the anti car culture company. The bs self driving. The elimination of anything remotely resembling character. Soulless. Ugly styling. The disgusting fan base. The laughable interior. The presumption that it is somehow better for the environment. There is really nothing technologically advanced about it. Solder batteries together and connect them to an electric motor. Control it with a tablet.
This. The car itself is meh, but what it stands for and the disgusting corporation and even more toxic fanbase behind it are what make me detest Teslas.
They are somewhere around Woodstock, IL; I don't know the exact road. The slower cars they start the test drive at Fisher Rd just South of 120 in Volo, IL
Lots of great content here, so I’ll just pick one major nit- I’m not sure I agree with the “disposable” part (at least, not any more so than any other modern cars). My model 3 is at 3 years old, and isn’t going anywhere. Ditto for the model s owners I know back to 2013 or so. In particular, I take issue with your implication that 300 miles of range will be pointless/thrown out in a few years when EVs have 600 mile range. They won’t. Batteries are just too heavy and too expensive. Automakers aren’t even willing to build many ICE cars with that kind of range, and an extra 12 gallons of fuel tank weighs and costs almost nothing. Yes, due to charge rate, EVs and ICE vehicles may have different optimum range, but the market will choose an ideal range based on charge time, weight, cost, and performance. And it won’t be anywhere near 600mi.
@@seanleal591 Apparently not. They are behind on such things for the price range, but I expect them to improve a lot over time as they are very quick to make design changes.
@@iltrmb Yeah, that thud shocked me. I'm no interior snob (I know the difference between excellent quality and being built to a price.) That thud sounded like something I'd expect from a 2001 Chrysler 300M, not a new car. My Fusion Hybrid has a quieter interior, and it's not like it's a high quality interior. That glass roof really killed things.
As a Tesla Model 3 Performance owner, going from a 2013 Prius for 7 years to this thing is definitely life changing in terms of daily fun, looking forward to driving every day, hitting tight corners, and the acceleration in sport mode is just ridiculous. Overall very happy with the purchase.
I think this is an interesting comment because I feel Tesla makes bad cars for the price and they don’t generally sell to the higher end market so most of their customers think jesus himself must have built the car because they’ve only ever driven a Honda civic
So many tesla haters its hilarious. Its all a “cult” blah blah. I dont care about Elon. The fact is when you drive a tesla, especially the newer models, they have gotten so much better. Quieter, better handling, and addictive acceleration that ICE cars cant touch for the price. The sound system on the LR models is fantastic. Its simply a fun car you cant wait to drive every day!
Seriously the best car reviewer on UA-cam period. Extremely in-depth. You can tell you research and try to understand the car fully before filming. It’s more than just numbers and reactions like most reviewers.
Honestly, the best part about owning a Tesla with the autonomous driving capability is now I can eat my sloppy McRib while driving to Planet Fitness.
A full slab of McRibs on the dash sounds like an express train to culinary heaven.
@@savagegeese I'm getting two for lunch today, I'll tag you on IG!
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You forgot to mention while downloading the newest update that increases your
horsepower. 👀
Just one problem. It doesn't exist.
I subscribed to savagegeese, and I got my pardon from the governor the next day!
me too.
and i dont even live in a political system with governors....
ok
15:03 those farmers must be like "Ohh it's those two guys again who love speeding past our farm".
I think of this every video haha.
I subscribed, and my dad finally told me he was proud of me!
No I didn't.
Narrator: He didn’t.
Hello is this Arby's, I would like one father's love and approval please.
There are many car review channels out there but this one consistently provides detailed "real-world" evaluations. No fuss, no ratings, no quirks, no hype, just straight forward useable information. Thank you! This coming from a Tesla P85D owner.
Slight correction on the infotainment, it is powered by an Intel Atom E3800 series CPU exclusively. As of HW3, Tesla no longer use any Nvidia hardware in new production vehicles.
Fyi we did video on older model. Thats why I mentioned Intel and AMD as they are rumored to switch again. Do you know when they switched production in 2018 or when the cutoff was?
@@savagegeese HW3 switch over was in May 2019 but that was from HW2.5 which was also not NVidia. I don't think the Model 3 ever had NVidia for the AI computer as I think they fell out with Mobile Eye in ~2016. I'm less clear what the MCU computer was that controls the main infotainment and honestly this is the first I had heard it was powered by an Intel Atom but based on speed I could see it.
@@savagegeese April/May 2019 was when Tesla switched to their in-house designed HW3. Please note that the *infotainment* CPU is an independent system from the Autopilot one. Model S & X prior to March 2018 has a Nvidia Tegra 3 powered "MCU1" (which has ongoing lawsuits/recalls for faulty eMMC chips right now). Therefore iit is possible to have MCU1 & HW3 Autopilot if FSD was purchased. I believe since late 2017, all Model 3s are produced with Intel based infotainment. AMD rumors are still just rumors.
@@gregb7353 Tesla need alert.
Dearest Mr. Geese, please bless us with a Porsche Taycan review this holiday season!
Some say that this geese man is secretly worth more than Elon Musk’s entire net worth
And that he makes his money on cover songs and live karaoke 🤨
All we know is, he’s called the Geese!
Some say that the Model 3 looks like an egg and has low build quality. I say they're correct.
he lost half his wealth in the divorce from turbowski
@@mothaybabonnam5632 turbo who?
@@80s_Boombox_Collector exactly
Completely unrelated, but that lighting in the closing thoughts segment is fantastic.
I hit subscribe and was immediately assaulted by hot women at the local farmers market
Thanks for being so honest about this car. As a car and tech enthusiast, I’ve watched hundreds of Tesla video, and this is the most genuine. Great job 👍
Hit the nail on the head. Quality definitely needs to be improved, but coming from a WRX it seemed nicer overall to me. I wanted that crazy acceleration, and the model 3 delivers on that
Wrx is almost gone, new ride Tesla
Most high horsepower cars have trouble handling an entire track day too, even cars that people believe are bullet proof, like some porsche models. If you drive hard you can get engine failures from oil starvation, overheated brakes, worn out pads, overheated diffs/transmissions, tires etc. Depends on the track/weather and how hard you push of course but a ~460hp car that can just lap all day without stuff wearing out is pretty expensive
Well, the Camaro SS 1le is one of those that is engineered for that usage with 455hp). GM even warranties cars that see the track.
@@Aaron-sn3sn Yeah and that is a remarkable car because of it, and it *still* gets worn out by hard driving eventually.
2:35 Look at panel gap on the hood.
That’s pretty bad not gonna lie
#justteslathings
Tesla is the king of panel gaps.
@THEODORE SWEET 🙄It is a hood.
Need an update test 2023
I needed this to keep me from rushing into buying a Tesla. Maybe a used one when the next generation causes people to dump these. In 5 years there will be many EV choices.
Rush into it you won't regret it. Trust me
Personally I'd do as you said and wait. We dont know if these cars have failures later in life and maybe a future one will be significantly better and fixes the current issues.
@@guidedprismg.e.w.p5673 there's definitely no a disadvantage to waiting but the batteries and motors are guaranteed for 8 years and there's plenty of Model S cars with over 200,000 miles already and those batteries and motors are not as good as what's in the new cars. Advances like the new heat pump are definitely a step in the right direction though
@@Shiftheads well tesla is going to be bankrupt soon, so a little wait will not hurt anybody. Instead, once the tesla goes bankrupt in 2 years time you can afford any tesla for penny's worth 😉.
@@ghq8982 if you think that let me see your Tesla short position
Unlike most here bashing Tesla I daily drive one.. and love every second of it... misaligned panels and all... never going back to an ICE car.
Basically all true …
Still 10k miles on my model 3 performance and each day is still just as fun as day 1. Autopilot is not “perfect” but still used daily. 2022 cabin is fine. Sound system great. For the price and how violently fast it is , who cares about the flaw’s for the price. Maybe upgrade the sway bar and coil overs? then most of the handling “issues “ (which are not really bad at all ) are gone.
I agree with most of what you say. However, the disposable discussion overlooks the fact that this car has and will get continual software updates to keep it feeling new and fresh. No other car has that. It's minimalistic interior also helps this point, as it can't really look dated with how simplistic it is. The UI of the screen is so much the character of the car, that a major UI revision makes it feel almost like a new car.
Regarding handling, I think Tesla did a very good job based on their experience and history. You also have to remember the tires are abnormally skinny to improve range, compared to something like a BMW M3 or Mercedes C63. That being said, I feel it's an excellent handling car for the road, and considering it's weight. I've never experienced a car this heavy that feels so light. Most of it's ICE competition, such as the M3, weigh several hundred pounds less. Something like a Honda Accord 2.0T is near 1000 lbs less. The fact that a car this heavy handles this well on 235mm tires with an open differential is impressive. And track mode really opens up the options.
For those looking for a dedicated track car, this isn't it. But if you want a practical and fun daily driver that is toss-able, capable, and quick, it's very compelling. On the flip side, I completely agree with the quality side of things. While the refreshed 2021 3 has the double pained glass and a few other improvements, interior noise and rattles could be better. Just a bit more attention to detail in this regard would be appreciated. But the interior feels sturdy and pretty durable.
But I think it's a bargain for the money. No other company can currently give you this level of performance, practicality, and range at this price point. This will change, but Tesla still has the advantage of being fast to evolve and adapt compared to the competition. This is likely one of the reasons their Build Quality is worse. I look forward to 5 years from now when the 2026 Model 3 is competing with mid-sized near-luxury EV cars also in the $35-65k range.
make no mistake outside warrantee you are seriously screwed. IF the bulb on your headlights go ..normally it should cost about 30 dollars to fix ...
trying getting a quote telsla its expensive in its hundreds
I lot of model 3 reviews I watched fall into the trap of treating the car as a tech gadget. They keep touting the features in the big screen and autopilot but talk about the car itself is limited to the acceleration. I was specifically looking for driving dynamics, suspension and such and Savage geese have covered it damn well. Great job
Playing the opening segment at 0.25x speed makes it sound like a 80s video game and it makes Mark sound drunk.
I now have a model 3 and am amazed how nice the car drives. It's extremely smooth and quiet. Awesome steering and acceleration. There are a few fit and finish flaws. However, they seem minor.
Good job Geese. Always doing the best reviews. Very few UA-camrs come to your level in car reviews. You remain very objective even when looking at cars like the Miata.
Solid vid! Love the Model 3 performance. Those panel gaps though Ugh. Can't have everything I suppose. Participated in OMaze too. woot.
Just a suggestion, if the audio is kinda shit like in the driving impressions segment, could you please convert it to a mono track? It would get rid of that weird spatial offset sound.
Going to be very interesting over the next 5 years to see how fast Elon/Tesla can ramp up and improve. What they've done in a short period of time is amazing, not sure I'd bet against them.
I’d like to see T research and consider implementing discarded race tech like hydraulic hybrid and camber neutral steering. I think once they find a really stable suspension the benefits of the electric design with regards to weight distribution will catapult the Tesla, and the world into unimaginable performance levels. Like how about going on a ride where you choose the speed by how many G’s you feel. Complete interaction with it’s environment, communication between other enabled cars to keep us safe instead of speed limits, and the world will enter a new era.
Great video, thanks for all the work you put into it Dad!!
I subscribed and my wife stopped cheating on me
How does this compare to other fast cars in this price segment? On one end the base vs. hot hatches; Type R, Golf R, Focus RS, and on the other, the Performance vs. truly fast cars; M2, RS3, CLA45.
I subscribed and then noticed I had a third testicle
Thank you, finally a review on the Tesla I can agree with....
The 15% reduction you mention in cold climates, is that due to simply battery temperature and decreased performance, or the additional loading due to heating the car....or both? Thank you
@Bucky Fiden I'd find that pretty surprising myself. When it's 0F outside, the heater running a significant period of time....I'd be quite surprised if it's only a 15% reduction in total distance. I feel like temperature alone could easily cause that 15% difference.
Man I subscribed to this channel years ago when I was looking to buy the CX-5 and look at it now! So happy to see it thriving!
wow what an awesome and honest review ,, you are slowly but surely becoming one of the best auto journalists on the web.
You can tell he's not being paid to film this
I like how you guys didn't default to comparing it to other combustion engine cars, this video was all about the car and nothing else.
The audio inside the cars was terrible, maybe due to sound isolation?
Austin, China and Berlin factories will/do have state of the art paint systems. Tesla is about to release a Model 3/Y with revised suspension. I have now a model 3 and it is not rough at all. SG is right about its shortcomings but it didnt take several more years to get items addressed. No unions and flat management structure.
Savagegeese has the best car reviews
Can you tell me please, which model of tesla is the best, in you opinion? I mean sedan...
Thanks for the vid guys! Can’t believe this stuff is free ^^
The best car reviewer on youtube by far.
He doesnt say anything though
Good to see you reviewing Model 3, but unfortunately it is already outdated...
Please, do go on....
@@DodgerBlueRobert he mentioned it in the video, they changed some things in the 2021 models, so things like the reverb from the glass should be better.
@@celderian yes, I watched it. That still doesn’t explain the other person’s statement about it being “already outdated”.
Fan on the channel. Just wanted to let you know the in-car audio seemed off-centre to me. Hard to explain, just didn't seem right. I was listening with headphones by the way. Cheers.
This channel is beyond other car reviews!
20:00 Thud, Thud, Thud ... they are getting beat to death on that road. I know because I rented a Telsa 3 in the same area. 22:40 is Hawley and 60 in Mundelein IL.
5 years into Tesla model 3 ownership and I still can't find better EV than my car at the similar price range.
Oh man, I have a base model... Hopefully in 3-4 years I'll get the performance (wish they lowered the roofline 5-7cm, and LS in the rear)
Crazy thing is on those runs you werent even near full charge so that was still down at least ten percent on power. Couldn't see how mahy miles it said of range but if it was less than 200 you were down over 20 percent of the power
It accelerates hella fast, but doesn't seem fun to drive. There is no experience. Just quiet fast. 🤷🏽♂️
Exactly.
What a complex review, and you could say even more, you're excellent sir
Great review, but I have to disagree with your conclusion. Tesla is the only carmaker that makes the car better over time through software updates. That makes it very unlikely to be a "throwaway" appliance like an iPhone. Sure, the hardware tech gets better over time, but that is true for all cars. I for one will be keeping my Model 3 Performance for more than 5 years.
I feel like a lot of the road and wind noise is noise you'd get in any other car but it's much more pronounced in a silent electric car.
and the glass doesn't help with the lack of absorption, right?
There have been a few prototype EVs with manual gearboxes like the Mustang Lithium and quite a few classic car to EV conversions with the original manual gearbox left in and mated up to the electric motor. Pointless perhaps, but give me a traditional feeling electric sports car and not a Tesla appliance and I might actually get excited over it.
I'm confident that in 5 years my 20-year-old Toyota truck will have still have less rattles and loose parts than that brand new Tesla. Build quality and quality of manufacturing matter.
All to complete with porcha
Good all round test but it is important to note that he did not test the actual full self driving beta version
Yes I did. It was not shown in this video.
That's a *noisey* car! Thanks for warning us about that; it would drive me absolutely insane (especially the sqeaks and rattles)!
Your selection of retro theme music for this review from the glory days of 8-bit console gaming and 80's TV shows...EPIC. During the intro, I was expecting to see you pop out of the car with a big red nose and giant floppy shoes (along with 13 more clowns) as a fitting "tribute" to Tesla's Model 3 Performance Gadget. Speaking of "fitting," I dumbed-down the resolution to 144p to smooth out those body-panel gaps, and add to the 8-bit 1980's vibe, which is where Tesla got their Airwolf-esque exterior styling, IKEA-esque interior design and QC specs from.
Another fair and fantastic review of a car and tech-car company which, as impressive as it appears, does not impress me, for reasons you touched on: "disposable tech business model." The least environmentally friendly, least consumer-friendly, least QC-oriented, and most hype-fueled "business innovation" in history.
In the new religion of technocracy, Elon Musk is both high-priest and prophet, comfortably slipping into the shoes of Steve Jobs. The faithful flock to him, bow down to his proclamations, and hang on his every word as gospel, prepared to change how they live and compromise what they know to be objectively right, in order to be welcomed into the cult of the future. A future which will see the technocratic hive-mind take precedence over the profound needs of individual souls meant to be here having meaningful ANALOG HUMAN EXPERIENCES. Tesla is little more than an 80's schoolboy's wet dream. And Musk is just a child of that era who found inspiration in Knight Rider's K.I.T.T., aspiration in Steve Jobs' cult-like following, and salivation over Bill Gate's tech monopoly: a transhumanist fanatic who will help usher in a "Blade Runner"-esque dystopia with the polish and sheen of "Oblivion" and the quality and reliability of Windows.
I'm sorry geese, you're missing it. You can't compare an ICE car or Hybrid to the electronic control of the Tesla. Also in track mode you can easily rotate the rear like a RWD car, and I know because I come from a 6MT 370Z Nismo which I used to slide every other corner, and the Model 3 Performance is just as easy to control and throw around. It is a bit heavier ofcourse but that corvette-like low center of gravity in a sedan and even better moment of inertia means you can't compare it to an ICE sports sedan, the ICE car is physically inferior in stability and driving dynamics. As much as you want to claim Tesla doesn't know how to make a driver's car, I am a car enthusiast, always have been always will be, I've driven an Aventador and a 458, the Model 3 Performance is one of the most fun cars I've ever driven, and definitely the one with the best throttle response. I don't know why you claim the brakes are mushy, they're 2-piece 14" Brembos all around...the brake fluid and pads can be changed but this is a conventional performance brake system, nothing Tesla did. I don't have the same observations as you at all...You're trying to claim the Tesla isn't a real car because "they're too new and don't know how to make one", but that's simply a false claim. Musk killed ICE cars for me, and it will do that to all as soon as they can realize what the difference is, problem is people can't realize it and also like sticking to the past....
The audio in the "Driving Impression " section is really weird, like I'm hearing you talk from behind the windshield.
Its amazing how the "Teslarati" overlook the obvious shortcomings of the vehicles and plunk down huge cash for them regardless. Seems as if all Tesla owners are beta testers of a sort. Cool technology though.
Once a beta tester, there is no coming back, as the rest feels old and dated
Do you think Model S would have better quality control, ride quality, insulation, etc. than the top Model 3 ?
The quality control issues apply across their line, as they're built in the same factories. Ride quality will be different, and likely pretty smooth, and sound insulation will probably be better as there was less cost cutting. It generally got better reviews for its interior.
1:03 you actually made me play back the video at 0.25 speed to see what you wrote there, I feel baited :D
If you pause the video, you can use the period and comma buttons on your keyboard to move by frame!
@@viperrules24 holy crap you're right, thanks for the tip! :)
@@mangodsky2809 no worries dude!
@savagegeese - can you guys do a review of the taycan? i just gave it a test drive and it's an absolutely fantastic car. want to hear your thoughts.
Great review. In fact, the Car Wow reviewer should listen to your points when he says the Tesla 3 is a better car than a Polestar 2. I don't think Tesla can make better cars than Volvo. It may have way better performance and efficiency, but you bring out what makes a car better and where Tesla is lacking. That's not to say it isn't a great accomplishment or a different, interesting car. It isn't. But yours is a balanced look at the automobile as an automobile, not just as an EV.
A classic example of performance taking precedence over quality, longevity, and exclusivity. Here in Southern California, these cars are as common as the Toyota camry. It really is sad that people ignore so many things that are historically treasured in a $55,000 car. Tesla ranks among the worst of 26+ auto manufactures as far as quality and reliability. My guess is that resale value (lack thereof) will reflect this.
Any doors fall off?
I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS
This car is as fast as a car that pushes 500k. But, beware. There's a little wind noise.
OmaZe OH NoE tEh PrOpAgAnDa
Turbowski was the best UA-cam car reviewer sidekick, change my mind.
You mean the 3 words he contributed to every review? Jack is a million times better.
@@lotsofcurveslover Absolutely. Turbowski just grumbled incoherently. Jack is excellent at explaining complex engineering.
@@lotsofcurveslover umm you shut your mouth! Scott is awesome and would kick your ass neck beard
KoolA$$ floormats. Car Guy since the 80's. I'd Absolutely LOVE A Tesla
Lil issues with fit&finish can be addressed later. Yall snoobbin', crying over spilled milk
@@gordythecreator bumpers falling off in rain isn't spilled milk
Better than a Model S Performance?
I just can't swallow the interior. Looks so cheap, minimalistic with that giant LCD slab dominating the space like they ran out of ideas and just glued one in the middle...it's honestly some of the worst interiors I have ever seen. You just have to be in certain mindset to spend all that money for a half product, just to be on a green wave and show everyone your moral, climate aware, superiority.
I don't give a shit about eco-friendly green story or any other progressive shit, so it's definitely not the car for me.
@Just think "VeGaN LeAtHer" aka plastic lol
I wonder how much a gauge cluster and some climate control knobs actually add to the cost. That add-on option would actually be useful instead of paying to beta test their buggy self driving.
@@THESLlCK I'm no vegan, but some the so-called vegan leathers are really nice. Half the people who think they have leather seats have some kind of leatherette, and don't even know it.
@@markmiller3279 Vegan leather is still a fancy name for plastic
How does it handle vs miata or s2k
Speaking of GTR... pls do a GTR video
Please do support🙏🏻
Ford GT Carbon Series 2019 Review
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*thousands of model 3 video "reviews" out there... yet he is managing to make the best (complete) and most objective one in only 25 mins!* ❤️
Right? All those Model 3 “reviews” videos are comical compared to this. They all basically suck balls.
And yet still wrong on facts. This uses an intel atom processor, not Nvidia which was abandoned after they switched to MCU 2.0. Also everything can be controlled by voice, which is the redundant controls.
Did not cover track mode or sentry mode/dashcam. Did not test sound system. 0-60 is 3.1, 1/4 mile 11.8 not stated. Incomplete review. There is so much more.
@@Samuel-ym7ls but don't worry. They covered how my 300 mile car is irrelevant after 5 years because it's an iphone 1. Like I am going to landfill my 50k car where it covers 100% of my needs but I am merely inconvenienced a few more mins at the supercharger twice a year when i go on road trips. Wtf kind of thinking is this.
They take this computer on wheels thing a little too far, as if my car in 5 years can't accelerate at 60 frames per second or something because the computer will be too slow..lol. Got to upgrade because your car can't handle 4k and ray tracing driving dynamics. You will not reach your destination due to dropped frames.
@@Samuel-ym7ls Sound system was tested in the previous base level video, feel free to check it out. Also, if you want cookie cutter videos which spew out the Wikipedia page and review commonplace aspects which are already covered a zillion times on UA-cam, then you're on the wrong channel! :)
The only reviever I truly respect. One of the very few that has actually done his homework and knows what hes talking about
Plus they actually track and drive their cars hard
Yeah it beats the lammas ass
Its fairly basic stuff though
Like every UA-camr he still has a level of bias, it’s impossible to not, just makes sense that all of these you tubers are good resources when looking for a car, but never base a decision solely off of them
@@buytheredcar yup
Probably the best thumbnail you've ever made.
Musk magic
That dent in the wheel at 8:12 is giving me anxiety
Don't be gentle , It's a rental.
Ich auch.
It's not, but I totally get you.
I hate the thin wheel style. Never understood why that is so popular.
Take some Xanax
I just bought one. I'm surely going to get in trouble with all the Tesla nerds doing douche wraps and tinted taillights.
Its a great car from a paint correction and detail perspective. A LOT to do.
And Matt can surely eat a zebra cake while in auto pilot..
@@savagegeese It’s kind of weird how you complained it cost $1000 to get your hands on a model 3 with the FSD beta, but you didn’t show a single clip of it in action. You showed the standard AUTOPILOT...that comes with every car. Look up any FSD beta video on UA-cam and you can clearly see the difference in the UI. It’s a dead giveaway. Very misleading, and misinformative to the viewer. FSD costs 10,000...that’s 1/6th the price of the actual car. I expected you to fully review the state of the beta and show examples of what you liked and didn’t like, and what exact improvements could be made. I don’t even think you have the beta bro. also the collecting data part, there is no way to create a fully functional autonomous car that can adapt to every environment without the use of machine learning, collecting data is essential, and no other automotive manufacturer could do it any other way. The most effective and efficient way to do this is through the millions of miles the customers will drive, it’s not as bad as you make it out to be.
@@JonFiya I cut out the additional ramblings of the FSD beta largely because it didnt work in our area until we got onto the Toll Way which was a 30 minute drive just to get there. What you saw was part of that trip to the tollway. I discussed it during final thoughts because we have a Tesla Model Y video also coming that is large part is identical the Model 3. So for purposes of spanning content I will make that a focus of that video. And before you make some kind of claim like I "made it up or didnt have it." you may ask yourself why would we do that? What would be the benefit to anyway including renting a model3 for the sole purposes of testing that function. (Which I have reciepts for and proof of the, car VIN that had the full beta enabled.) Did I gloss over it, yes. Does almost every Tesla fanboy that treats these cars as religion get butt hurt when you say something is less than perfect, yes.
@@savagegeese name calling doesn't improve the review.
8:12 - Gotta love 20 inch wheels. Car's brand new and it's already bent to shit. Engineering explained found this out the hard way.
Fuck yeah
Man, Mark! You weren't kidding when you said that car is an echo chamber! In all the cars I've seen you give commentary in, or just talking to Jack, none of them sounded that bad.
I can’t hit like enough to express my approval to this video, this is one of the most objective in depth videos without the EV hype I’ve ever seen.
come on, Jose, it's just a few more hundred ineffectual clicks... lol.
@@twystedhumour TBH, my comment is part of my intention of bump up the algorithm numbers for Mr Goose.
I always get so sad hearing that last piano music
This is one of the only Tesla reviews that seems genuine, honest, and no bias. Even my boys over at throttle house sounded like they were trying to sell Tesla's.
After almost ten years of Tesla news and reviews, this is the first review that was right down the middle. It’s about as unbiased as it can be. It’s nice just to learn about the car.
Quality review as always, how is Savagegeese not at 1M yet
Because he doesn’t do infomercials.
Too honest.
The audience for this kind of content isn't that big. The more intelligent and mature it is aimed to be, the smaller it will be.
Adding quality is superior to adding any kind of quantity, since the existence of one example adds that reality to the collective consciousness, so to speak. Quantity is so much easier.
Of course, in some contexts there may be a practical need for quantity, so that has to be fulfilled. But that's a different stage of the process.
Because the reviews are technical, because he isn't an especially slick presenter, and because he is often reviewing performance cars that few are shopping for.
@@markmiller3279 Who isn't reviewing performance cars among regular cars? I see no connection between that and audience size.
Not positive enough. The TeslaTroopers will be out in force today defending Elon's honor.
Naw. We good. This was a fair and balanced review.
I like Ur rust bucket 👍
Nah. I watched his review of the base model and then got a model 3 performance. Everything he said here is valid though mine seems to have dodged all the assembly QC problems that other M3 owners complain about. All the gaps are lined up right, no paint issues, no rattles, squeaks, missing parts or anything. I just wish they were more realistic about your ACTUAL mileage you will get from these cars. Rated for 300 but real world interstate road trip for me and lots other M3P owners puts it more around 270~ish range if you keep the speed at around 70~75mph.
No one talks about the real world money savings going EV, especially if you are leaving another high performance car. I was paying around $200/month in fuel costs for my Scatpack Dodge Charger and now average around $45 a month in electricity kwh consumption but since I have averaged billing, that extra cost is absorbed and my actual monthly power cost only went up about $8.
The car isn't perfect but it ticked enough boxes for me to jump on it and IMO, this is one of the best daily drivers out there. If I had to do it over again, I probably would have saved a few bucks and gotten the dual motor version. It's still really quick but about $10,000 cheaper. Oh and speaking of $10,000, the full self driving upcharge is a joke. The standard issue autopilot is already great and can easily get you along just fine with minimal baby sitting. It just doesn't change lanes for you. I can do that perfectly well and save $10G's.
The frameless door windows seem like a risky choice for a company so inexperienced in car design/manufacturing. That’s gotta be a big contribution to the wind noise.
My bmw convertible has frame less doors. Noise is fine
Personally I think it’s quiet inside, though if you are after a mobile anechoic chamber, then I believe that they now come with double glazed glass
@@myaccount__7269 Yeah but it's a bmw not a tesla
@@Miguelsw would any lamination applied to the interior glass help with the sound absorption?
@@twystedhumour you can buy various after-market sound proofing kits for model 3s, but most reviews conclude the it makes just a marginal improvement.
i owned a 3 series bmw (f30 2013) and a model 3 tesla and I would say that the model 3 is very quiet
I hate what this particular american startup stands for. Its like the anti car culture company. The bs self driving. The elimination of anything remotely resembling character. Soulless. Ugly styling. The disgusting fan base. The laughable interior. The presumption that it is somehow better for the environment. There is really nothing technologically advanced about it. Solder batteries together and connect them to an electric motor. Control it with a tablet.
This. The car itself is meh, but what it stands for and the disgusting corporation and even more toxic fanbase behind it are what make me detest Teslas.
15:10 Looks awfully cold for Mexico
They are somewhere around Woodstock, IL; I don't know the exact road. The slower cars they start the test drive at Fisher Rd just South of 120 in Volo, IL
This needs a retake with a 2023 model
Lots of great content here, so I’ll just pick one major nit- I’m not sure I agree with the “disposable” part (at least, not any more so than any other modern cars). My model 3 is at 3 years old, and isn’t going anywhere. Ditto for the model s owners I know back to 2013 or so. In particular, I take issue with your implication that 300 miles of range will be pointless/thrown out in a few years when EVs have 600 mile range.
They won’t. Batteries are just too heavy and too expensive. Automakers aren’t even willing to build many ICE cars with that kind of range, and an extra 12 gallons of fuel tank weighs and costs almost nothing.
Yes, due to charge rate, EVs and ICE vehicles may have different optimum range, but the market will choose an ideal range based on charge time, weight, cost, and performance. And it won’t be anywhere near 600mi.
Yikes. The wind noise and overall sound that gets into the car really comes through during the driving segment.
That's because there's no other noises to cover it up. The wind noise would be just about the same in any other sports car.
@@seanleal591 Apparently not. They are behind on such things for the price range, but I expect them to improve a lot over time as they are very quick to make design changes.
I rented one in the same area. Listen to thud, thud, thud ... at 20:00. 45 psi tires and also the glass roof reflects noise.
@@iltrmb Yeah, that thud shocked me. I'm no interior snob (I know the difference between excellent quality and being built to a price.) That thud sounded like something I'd expect from a 2001 Chrysler 300M, not a new car. My Fusion Hybrid has a quieter interior, and it's not like it's a high quality interior. That glass roof really killed things.
No engine dude.....
As a Tesla Model 3 Performance owner, going from a 2013 Prius for 7 years to this thing is definitely life changing in terms of daily fun, looking forward to driving every day, hitting tight corners, and the acceleration in sport mode is just ridiculous. Overall very happy with the purchase.
I think this is an interesting comment because I feel Tesla makes bad cars for the price and they don’t generally sell to the higher end market so most of their customers think jesus himself must have built the car because they’ve only ever driven a Honda civic
Couldnt be further from the truth Lol @@car_tar3882
So many tesla haters its hilarious. Its all a “cult” blah blah. I dont care about Elon. The fact is when you drive a tesla, especially the newer models, they have gotten so much better. Quieter, better handling, and addictive acceleration that ICE cars cant touch for the price. The sound system on the LR models is fantastic. Its simply a fun car you cant wait to drive every day!
Excellent review. I’d love to see a savagegeese review of the Taycan
He did it a couple of months ago if you look at his channel
@@LJ-fr1ei I only see the Cayenne, Macan, and 911. Could be PEBKAC.
@@vgame64 oops I thought you said the cayenne. My bad
Seriously the best car reviewer on UA-cam period. Extremely in-depth. You can tell you research and try to understand the car fully before filming. It’s more than just numbers and reactions like most reviewers.
I know UA-camrs like the hook viewers with giveaways, but Mr. Geese goes ALL OUT!.. Not some lame ass swag here, they givin away McMansions over here!