30 Essential Ideas you should know about ADHD, 7B The 30% Rule, 4 Components for Effective Treatment
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The 30% Rule, the real executive age (the emotional age) of the child. They may know and have skills of their true age, but they can only use those skills like a person who is 30% younger, unless the environment is arranged in a way where they do not have a performance disorder.
ADHD kids and driving
4 Necessary Components for Effective Treatment
Get a Good Evaluation to make sure you are ADHD and to figure out all the other comorbidities you may have.
Families need to educate themselves.
Medication is the most effective treatment, Medication + Behavior/Environment changes are better. Only 20% of ADHD people can prosper as kids without medication due to changes in the environment/behavior changes, and even those 20% do better with medication plus everything else.
Make accommodations. Create prosthetics, artificial advices to help the person show what they know.
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Before I found out I have ADHD, I told my friend 'I think I'm always behind 3 years than my age groups..'. I can't believe it was actually true.
yesterday i turned 27.5 years old biologically. this makes me 19.25 years old functionally!
Hell yeah me too
No you are not 3 years behind but 30%
I know I was more immature than the average. Always. Both my grandmother and my my mother told be good grow up before they passed. Literal last convo with my mom “grow up!“ I was 23 and my mind was 16 😢 this is just depressing for me
OMG, same here! I always said I was 7 years behind my peer group. I was RIGHT!😢
I can't help but believe him. I'm currently 26, and if what he says is true my executive age would be 18-19. And that makes a lot of sense to me know what I know about my habits and life. Also, I've always sort of felt more mature for my age growing up but unable to function at the same as my age group. I would feel more mature but more stupid.
This is exactly my issue. People would even tell me I behaved more mature than people around me but then I would not be able to achieve the things those same other kids did. I was a sorta well behaved kid but I heavily relied on my mom dragging me, my siblings and my dad along with school and other tasks (I suspect now after learning so much that we all have adhd)
Thank you. This describes me perfectly. It's not even that I only feel like I'm more mature. I know that I am because everyone tells me that I'm much more mature than most people my age. Nevertheless, being mature in thought and to some extent actions does not mean that I have my life together and have developed good, consistent and functional habits.
Yeah same thing. Always felt more mature and was told by everyone that i was more mature than people my age. But at the same time i always worried about being perceived as immature due to irresponsible behavior and not having age appropriate interests and goals.
I'm 18. Bit rough being told I'm 12. I agree that I'd probably be doing a bit better at university if I had the level of accountability he's proposing. But I'm in my second year and got commended for my marks last year so I must be doing something right, even if it feels like everything is going wrong. The current online schooling with the pandemic has been terrible for my motivation and accountability but finally realising I have ADHD means that I can start putting into place strategies that actually work to get myself back on track. I'm planning on using the 5 strategies he mentioned earlier, so I guess since this is a talk delivered to parents about their children then I am treating myself like I'm 12, in a way
Hey. In a similar situation here. Been out of school for the past several years. And now back to finish my last. I need help putting these strategies into place. It would be great to hear how you do it.
Remember not all executive functions are affected equally in adhd. Every individual is unique. That 30% is just a rule of thumb and it’s more aimed at the carers, parents and guardians to warn them not to make assumptions about someone with ADHD that are unrealistic and unreasonable. But if you are amongst those who are not as behind then there should be nothing stopping you to achieve what you set yourself to achieve. I know when I left for uni I had the maturity of a 14 year old. Some of my executive skills were much more like a 16 year old, and some like a 12 (now I have my own children, my 14 year old son who does not have adhd is more mature than I was at 18 in a few areas). My daughter whom I suspect to have adhd, is definitely lagging behind her age.
yesterday i turned 27.5 years old biologically. this makes me 19.25 years old functionally!
@@nicbentulan does it work like that actually?
@@jasperlim8909 haha no. good question. it's just a little rule of thumb that i like to take as literally as possible. but basically adhders have difficulty with time management and other executive function relative to people of the same age. how much difficulty? about 30%.
eg of my literally
i did all the 30% rule calculations/computations in google sheets and figured my exact functional birthdays
1995 June 5
1996 November 9
1998 April 13
1999 September 18
2001 February 22
2002 July 27
2004 January 1
2005 June 5
2006 November 9
2008 April 13
2009 September 18
2011 February 22
2012 July 27
2014 January 1
2015 June 5
2016 November 9
2018 April 13
2019 September 18
2021 February 22
2022 July 27
2024 January 1
2025 June 5
2026 November 9
2028 April 13
2029 September 18
I've generally enjoyed this lecture and can identify with a lot of what he has to say, but this section is the one I've found most objectionable so far. He made an awful lot of generalizations without qualifying them. I don't doubt that there are people who suffer cognitive developmental delays as severely as he described, but he makes it sound like people with ADHD are incapable of functioning in the modern world in almost every aspect.
For one thing, college students who have ADHD ARE NOT mental 12 year olds in every regard, and it's demeaning and damaging to treat them like they are. Yes, incoming college students with ADHD need and will benefit from additional help and accountability, but they do not need to be placed in substance free dorms and monitored four times a day like they're on probation. Yes, ADHD impairs driving ability, but allowing an 18 year old ADHD sufferer to drive is NOT the same thing as allowing a literal 12 year old to drive.
Your 30% rule isn't universal. Stop infantilizing us.
I think he'd refer you to the statistical data on people under the age of thirty with ADHD. While not everyone is the same, the risks (and their probabilities) are. So why not do what we can to minimize those risks?
You're right that he is generalizing. Most studies draw conclusions based on group means, not individual results. There is a distribution, and there are some who are outliers, or quite far from the mean. But far more people lie around the mean, and that's what the abstract and conclusion of studies will refer to.
he got a study on 10y old and are generalize onto all ages, not that he is completely wrong with that assumption but i would say a 18yo with ADHD would be like a 15yo, so 30% rule must decrease over the years so at 20/22 must be nule this lag.
@@TheZenytram I believe he says that symptoms attenuate for all adhd subgroupings with age/brain maturation and continued treatment, the very important exception being those with ADHD/ODD, who often do not receive or maintain treatment.
He stated very clearly that we are not behind in every aspect but just on our executive function.
This explains a lot about why I felt like I was so behind in high school. I never felt 'on par' with my age group, their interests or mind sets. Once I graduated and went in the military, the accountability was endless. And even though I didn't like a majority of my leadership, I was a lot more successful overall.
When I was 17 I was a lifeguard at a swimming pool looking after kids!
No one drowned but in hindsight I agree that I wasn't the right guy fior the job :-/
lol
Well, I bet no girls your age would have drowned on your shift.
@@SlyNine Does someone always have to make stuff perverted??
I have no diagnosis. But it runs in my family, and I score above the benchmark on the tests. At school I was bright and intelligent, academically clever with no common sense. I was easily distracted, easily led and disorganised. But I could walk through exams with no revision or extra study. I started knocking around with people older than me.
I’m now 42. I can’t seem to focus on shit. The memories I have of all the times I display symptoms of adhd and not known it.
So many times I’ve said to people that in some ways I’m much older but it’s things in the mind, and in others I feel something like a decade and a half behind people my age. In lifestyle etc, and there are ways that really I’m like a college student without the college
This is mind-blowing. When contemplating my situation, i would often think "why the hell do i - a 30 y.o man - have competencies and life achievements of, at best, a 20 y.o?". Well, 30% of 30 is 9. I lag behind by 9 years. Quite a precise estimate it was, for a person ignorant of ADHD back then, eh?
Turned 28 this year, and have been wondering why I feel like I've only really mentally matured in the last couple of years.
Literally turning 30 in less than a month. I feel you. I just now feel like I'm taking steps to be more mature. It sucks.
@@mistersharpe4375 Are you me? Legit used to get so frustrated that I was always perpetually behind all my friends/peers in all aspects of my life.
I drove fine at (remembers popping wheelies in low 4 and ruining the transmission) never mind..
Hmmm, I've only recently been diagnosed (I'm 52), and just about everything fits the glove, so to speak. Except the driving.... I got my licence on my 17th birthday. And here's the thing, I've never had an accident! I'm a very conscientious driver. I do have Avoidant Personality Disorder, which means I have an overdeveloped "radar" for reading/predicting situations and also, I love driving. The combination of the two have probably saved me from many a wreck. I am, however, very easily triggered in traffic, so that part of the ADHD fits perfectly.
and the faster I go the more I focus. lol
I was always very lucid that i was not ready for a lot of things, not independant or mature enough but the comparison to others had lasting consequences on my self-esteem...
Same for me. I never wanted to drive right away, babysit, so I just didn't. I think some part of me innately knew 'not yet', or I'd find them too stressful. Maybe the better functioning part of my brain said, 'Let's sit this one out!'
@@laurend9829 Absolutely. It's almost as if your subconscious mind knows that you're not ready and avoids it.
I've been watching this playlist and I'm uncertain if he mentioned driving in this or the last segment.
I have a license for a motorised bike, it can go up to 35 km/h.
I'd say that I'm not a bad driver, just an... inattentive one. I've caught myself spacing out while driving to school more than I'd like to admit, and it honestly scares me. I mostly snap out of it quickly, but I am very much afraid of not being quick enough.
Glad that I can't drive a car yet
It was the last segment. I had a lot of trouble paying attention while driving too until I started medication. It's terrifying realising you haven't been paying attention for however long.
The captions on this video are very bad and change the meaning of what he's saying. When he said "using" the captions said "abusing". When he said "rational" the captions said "irrational".
My kids did so well going to community college before transferring to 4 year. Everyone doesn’t need to “go away” at 18!
My son can not be on medication due to a comorbid psych Dx. 😭
When I walked onto my college campus, I had lost 10 of the 12 years of academic preparation my peers got to special ed. I got a 30 on my ACT just from book smarts and luck with what it covered... but I had never studied for a test, never been made to do homework, and never written a paper longer than a book report. I had no major or goal in mind whatsoever, but I was NAGGED until I agreed to enroll immediately out of high school. I knew damn well I lacked the executive skills to succeed and loudly told every teacher or parent figure in my life and was dismissed. I did not receive any accommodations- nobody even told me that was a possibility. I had nobody to even talk to, let alone hold me accountable. I had nobody to study with let alone a group of more competent students, and no social skills to form or find one. I lasted less than two semesters and that was the only possible outcome.
i regret going to university. it took me 6 years to finish a shitty copout degree in geography because i didn't know how to write a paper or catch up on any reading to save my life and of course university offers no help and it's sink or swim.
if i had gone to a vocational college, things would have been very different.
+bananian Same thing here. It took me 6 years in biology major and I got nothing. No cumulative memory in my brain, so I can't use it. Also, I tried to involve in research project but ended up just washing beakers while freshman guys were learning how to do the protocol. I don't do research anymore and never will.
bananian - You completed a goal! Holy crap, that’s huge for those of us with ADHD. It took me 25 years to get my bachelor’s degree. I’m very proud that I completed it. Don’t sell yourself short. 🙂
ugh I begged my mom to let me go to vocational school but she was worried that I'd be behind when I went to go to college. She went to vocational school which is probably why she was so worried about it, but she uses her skills every day even to this day while I dropped out of college the first time and barely made it through normal high school. Vocational/technical school would've been great for me. The degree I'm pursuing now is one with a (luckily) nontraditional coursework (lots of building and making) and I'm doing a lot better. I'm not upset with her, she did her best. Honestly, now that I look back on it, I don't know how she got through it all.
2:22 I wish there was a version of this guidance for adults who were never Dx as children, as many of us need all of the above so much more than adults of the same age.
I'd also like to make a slight tweak, please. *_Support_* that 18yo as if they're 12, but don't treat them like they're a child. I know this a fine tightrope to navigate, but it's quite tough being _treated/patronised_ like a child because you struggle with key EF tasks, but are otherwise quite mature. Lack of understanding is one of the most dispiriting aspects of having ADHD. 😔
Though I have difficulties in doing my work and being productive as any proper functioning adult.. But I'm told that I'm more mature than people of my age and sometimes I've been told I'm more mature than people older than me.. So that's something that didn't sit right to me..
I like Russell Barkley a lot, except for his emphasis on medication.
In terms of describing the problem, he is the best.
@@JeffreyPillow He emphasises medication because he is paid six figure sums by Big Pharma
Alan Berkeley source
I was severely adhd from a young age. When I was about 45 I started doing Buddhist meditation. All ADD symptoms were gone within a few months. I wasted so much money and time with all the meds. Samatha seemed to exercise and build the parts of the brain that were deficient. No idea if it would be effective for everyone, but it was like a miracle cure for me. Unfortunately for big pharma, this cure was free (well, it does "cost" at least 45 minutes a day).
@@tbobtbob330 That's not ADHD you had trauma lol. The #1 thing for trauma is mindfulness
I'm 22, so with a 30% lag my executive age is 15; that's, interesting. So at age 30 I'll have mental acuity/mindset of the _average_ 20/yr old.
That's strange because
for 10 we are 7 (3)
for 20 we are 14 (6)
for 30 we are 21 (9)
for 40 we are 28 (12)
well.... you got the pattern.
So basically we are developing less with time?? That is scary!
He said children at the beginning of the video. If he says something else later, fair enough, but based on that, you shouldn't be extrapolating to adulthood.
yesterday i turned 27.5 years old biologically. this makes me 19.25 years old functionally!
at age 30 you'll/we'll be 21 functionally so technically adult and age of consent in everything
@@SujaanChakraborty i did all the 30% rule calculations/computations in google sheets and figured my exact functional birthdays
1995 June 5
1996 November 9
1998 April 13
1999 September 18
2001 February 22
2002 July 27
2004 January 1
2005 June 5
2006 November 9
2008 April 13
2009 September 18
2011 February 22
2012 July 27
2014 January 1
2015 June 5
2016 November 9
2018 April 13
2019 September 18
2021 February 22
2022 July 27
2024 January 1
2025 June 5
2026 November 9
2028 April 13
2029 September 18
I’m 22 with the self regulation of a high schooler…
How am I supposed to support myself again? How am I supposed to cope with full time employment again? How am I supposed to cope with paying bills, house hunting, tenant agreements, taking care of myself feeding myself a proper diet, cleaning up after myself, I am lost and overwhelmed and afraid.
27*0.7=19
Well that explains a lot
yesterday i turned 27.5 years old biologically. this makes me 19.25 years old functionally!
@4Channel there's one calculation you might have to do on your own
i did all the 30% rule calculations/computations in google sheets and figured my exact functional birthdays
1995 June 5
1996 November 9
1998 April 13
1999 September 18
2001 February 22
2002 July 27
2004 January 1
2005 June 5
2006 November 9
2008 April 13
2009 September 18
2011 February 22
2012 July 27
2014 January 1
2015 June 5
2016 November 9
2018 April 13
2019 September 18
2021 February 22
2022 July 27
2024 January 1
2025 June 5
2026 November 9
2028 April 13
2029 September 18
@4Channel just do 70% multiplied by each of your birthdays? or wait or is it 130% times each...or maybe it's the same...
@4Channel I mean again it's like
just do 70% multiplied by each of your birthdays? Something like this right. Okay fine lemme check the formula. Especially for you.
@4Channel ah here we go. Just do 1,2,3,4,5,so on. Divide each by 0.7 and to get 1.42...,2.85,... etc and then do like say 1/0.7-1 to get...oh hell it's a little more complicated to write out but anyway to see for example your 3rd functional birthday if you have ADHD just do 3/0.7=4.285... and then add 0.285...times 365.25 days to the date of your 4th birthday?
I so wanted to disagree with you about the age thing and be like, it's not that way for girls and then I looked back at my life...currently, I'm in my 40's dating a 31yr old. As a kid and baby sitting kids 3 yrs younger than me, they could talk me into anything and now I know why. And even though I'm super smart, in many ways, I still feel so immature sometimes.
Funny at work we do a mentor program and they asked if I wanted to be a mentor or a mentee, and I was shocked they thought I could be a mentee despite having 15 yrs experience. But my cognitive therapist is helping me see my strengths and learn to manage my problems better.
Well, this explains a lot. Especially why it took me multiple attempts to pass my drivers test as a teenager. I remember feeling like an idiot compared to a lot of my classmates.
as a possibly ADHD 14 year old girl who babysits, lol.
I found a work around for myself. I went to Marine corps boot camp. I may not be able to self-motivate, but they are more than capable of assisting with motivation. And habitual patterns of action do not require motivation. Those are simply the next steps you take every time. And if you convince yourself that someone else's life may hinge on your actions you have sufficient external motivation to achieve some normal everyday activities.
All the kids he's talking about got medicated and that's a PMR- unless you lie(and nobody will tell you you needed to lie until after you're rejected) you're disqualified from serving.
"Accountable to student services 4 times a day" lol I had to go once a week and I only lasted for one week
Is it still 30% in adulthood? At 28, am I at the level of a 21 y/o, or is it better in adulthood. If I’m only at 21 y/o function, that explains a lot.
Yup, I'm in the same boat.
Since apparently your brain stops most of its development around 25, I'm wondering how this works out. In an earlier lecture, Russell said people level out in their early 30s, though, but that ADHDers level off differently. So, I guess that might mean that if "early 30s" means like 33 at most, then a regular person after 33 is always about 33 in terms of executive function (neuroplasticity and the fact that obviously we will continue to acquire new knowledge aside), but an ADHDer after 33 is maybe 23 (22 if early 30s means 31 instead), in terms of EXECUTIVE FUNCTION. Just keep in mind that it's 1) in terms of executive function, 2) not forever, since we all level off, just at different points, 3) a rule of thumb, apparently, and, as you mentioned, perhaps one that is more applicable to children than adults for all we know; but even if it isn't, 23 vs 33 doesn't seem to terrible to me haha, and lastly, it's 4) on AVERAGE, so maybe if you're a genius with only mild ADHD, you could be different. Take heart!
When I went to college, I took evening classes which was 80% 30+ year Olds. Didn't realize that helped
.... shiiiiit okay. I went to college at 16 years old. I got my degree, barely, at a little before my 21st birthday. I’m adhd and I did mask really well thanks, but this is CHILLING. And I’m glad I didn’t even start driving until 25 because I didn’t feel ready. I’d have been, what, executive age 18 then?
Gonna have to sit with this.
"...this is like asking a dyslexic child to..."
Me: mhh good point i should write that down
*misspells dyslexic*
How much high IQ can compensate ADHD ? Because i didn't have negative impact on my grades until highschool but my organisation skills were always bad and I had trouble feeling confident enough to be as independant as my peers... For example i literally refused to travel abroad with the school at 11 because i wasn't feeling prepared and confident enough to go in a foreign country, in an unknown household.
In my experience, an extraordinary amount compared to average people with ADHD and even average neurotypical people. My GPA for my bachelors was 3.8. No surprise, grades are heavily weighted towards tests, and I had an interest in the subject which helps a lot with paying attention in class. There was also a reward in college. Conversely, years prior I had almost dropped out of high school during the last semester of my senior year. When you have an interest, "tests" are a joke. When you don't, it's basically hazing especially if the work is monotonous.
It can happen. I was top kid in my class untill 11. There are many who were top scorers in their childhood
I was always one of the top student of my class till entering university.. My IQ is 136.. But it's of no use when you don't do the necessary things to thrive in life.. Utter failure in my life rn.. Not medicated yet
We can help you in seeing where you have trouble and building artificial structures to compensate. Having various alarms to help you know when time has passed. Having set habitual routines to help you accomplish basic things in a timely manner. Setting artificial rules for yourself for things like driving. Sometimes it's something as simple as adding a purposeful distraction that you have to actively resist paying attention to while doing something else, and that's enough to at least perform at a standard level. But all those would be something you would need to come up with for yourself. And none of those truly address the issue of personal interactions where you are permanently in the now and the length of time since you last spoke with someone that has no impact on your perception of your relationship.
I guess what I'm saying is it can help you compensate but you will never perform at a level equal to your peers with similar IQs. But can allow you to function with fewer issues. Also requires you to do things that are difficult such as future planning.
I've said that I feel like I'm 16 for the entirety of my adult life. Just stuck. I wonder if they find that this levels off. I'm nearly 30 now.
I'm 29 and I feel like I'm 19.
This is actually telling my life .. i have experience EVERY SINGLE THING .. 😐
What is the limit of thier mental age (i have adhd and asd)? Thanks in advance
This is excellent. I am aware the footage is 8 years old and much research has happened since then. Does anyone know if the 30% rule still applies?
what is the 4th component? i missed it.
I don't think I was perfect in college and definitely needed better accomodations to succeed better, but I wasn't ever at risk for abusing drugs or alcohol 😑 I don't think a literal translation of the 30% less mental development is going to be exactly the best approach
Does this 30% rule change if they are medicated or is this all the time? Scary thoughts about driving and college.
The 30% rule isn't universal across every cognitive function that ADHD impacts, nor is it universal across every ADHD sufferer. Sometimes it's much less than 30%. And yes, medication does help significantly for most people.
His statements regarding driving, college, and babysitting are way overblown and only an accurate description of more severe sufferers.
He says in a later section that the gap virtually disappears in most cases while on medication. My issue is almost all my productivity goes away once the med wear off, and I may not be organized enough to take the medication the next day.
doctor name?
Means... I'm technically 21 right now. Hurray. Time to catch up with my peers. They are 30+ now I'm still 21. LOL.
Key points - the speaker says that on average, an ADHD kid is 30% behind their peers and medication is key to helping them
Infantilising adults with ADHD in this way is wrong. Inattention in SOME babysitters with ADHD may cause accidents, however for most, the consequences of such accidents keep them focused and alert - I think you have failed to take this into account. You are applying the dangerous behaviour of the 1% to the wider population of sufferers.
This makes sense because rn im 20 and I still feel like a child
but what does it actually mean to have the executive functioning of say, a neurotypical 14 year old? i believe it but i wanna understand more
in other words, literally treat ADHD people like a child.
I guess does the 30% rule also mean ADHD adults should have higher drinking ages then?
like, in the U.S. not until 30 (21 for neurotypical), in other countries not until around 25-26 (18 for neurotypical).
Well. I do behave childishly. I am 23, and just last year, a random taxi driver thought I was 15.
Made it sound like ADHD teens kill babies in the middle section there. I don't think that's what he meant to say
I get what he's saying but I graduated in exactly 8 semesters from a good uni with a 3.47 cumulative GPA, which is better than any one of my neurotypical high school friends.
But I also did my first two years at home and my last two years away and was medicated 95% of the time. First two semesters away from home were a nightmare though, but a lot of that had to do with the fact I spent most of it breaking up and getting back together with my first GF who was a borderline narcissist.
Very interesting video! The only thing I didn't like was how he presented it as a definite. Like no 14yr old w/ADHD should be trusted w/a responsibility like babysitting or no teen given a driver's license. 30% age deficit is the overall average, but there are going to be variations where some are less or more than that. I wish he'd pointed out how to gauge where your child falls on the deficit scale, how to evaluate that so you can adjust appropriately w/o infantalizing them or causing learned helplessness. Verses "Let a 14yr old babysit?Give a 16 yr old a license? Are you crazy??"
He is talking about kids who are only receiving psychosocial interventions, or nothing at all, and not medication. From about 6:00 minutes you'll hear him make that point.
at 54 i am 38?
I haven't heard anything hopeful yet. Listening to him feels like my child has no hope or future.
He is very good, don’t worry, there’s plenty of hope for your kid! Specially since his mom is already learning about adhd to help him! :) I wasn’t diagnosed until adulthood and that’s the biggest problem for adhders. Dr. Barkley seams to be one of the few in the world who really gets this. I recommend his books, try one of them for parents and kids ;)
Look into anapanasati. It's a practice a person of any religion can do. It completely cured my lifelong ADHD symptoms within a few months. Might work for your kid too.
@@tbobtbob330 shhhhhhhhhhhh
For everyone panicking in the comments, it’s not as black and white as he is portraying. I just finished my master while having adhd and it was not as dramatic as he portrays, everything is nuanced and differs per person.
He is just describing the medical framework, this doesn’t mean everyone with adhd falls into that box.
I have ADHD & joined the German Navy at an age of 17. I was trained on assault rifles & other weapon systems & it worked out fine.
ADHD people actually work well in military environments because It's highly structured
don't agree with this one. I wasn't mentally 12 at 18.
It's just an average. Not everyone fits this exactly. You might be an outlier in this.
I believe a person can overcome any psychological issue given enough effort. I believe a person with poor self regulation skills can learn the confidence to self manage themselves to a military level self discipline. believe a person who has a memory deficit can learn to memorize a deck of cards if they learn the correct mental techniques. I believe a person who struggles to motivate themselves can learn a routine to motivate themselves more easily by learning what drives them the most. I believe a person who lacks emotional control can learn to become masterful of their emotional control with N LP techniques, I believe an impulsive person can learn how to exercise extreme patients, i believe a person who gets frustrated easily can learn techniques to quickly de stress and calm themselves, I believe that will power and perseverance can be learned by linking those values to your passions and goals in a mental routine. I believe the adhd gurus on youtube are mostly pessimistic BS artists with no real deep appreciation or understanding of the true nature and power of the souls free will and will power. I BELIEVE AND YOU SHOULD TOO
early medication almost ruined my life...
no medication until adulthood almost ruined MY life.
to each their own I guess
@@IsleNaK SAME!! I spent years suffering from depression and anxiety, constant interpersonal problems, constant problems with school and work ... when I was finally diagnosed and medicated, I actually felt normal for the first time in my life. EVERYTHING has been better since then. I wish I was diagnosed and medicated as a kid.
@@wweltz Can you say what you use for medication and how it has helped? What changes and do you think it has made?
Another use of the R word, and now we're infantilizing...
Yeah, this segment is a bit hurtful. Also him using the word "transvestite" and classifying it as a sexual disorder. I think he's TRYING to say that we should increase accountability and skill building in adults with ADHD as much as kids, but regardless the presentation comes off as condescending.
it's still taking amphetamines. Also the brain puts out specific chemicals in specific amounts in specific locations in the brain. So blanketing your brain with medication is kind of like opening the hood of your car and pouring oil all over it. Some of it will go in the right place, but most of it will go all over and do more harm than good.
I think medication should be an absolute last resort. They dont even know why or how it works, and it doesn't cure it or even help that much once you get used to the drugs.
Also its backed by a 15 billion dollar a year industry. Legal drug dealing.
Oh shut up.
@@gutturangeela Speed head
@@alanberkeley7282 brainlet
@@anyershaman1735 Shut the fuck up. The DSM say that 5% of children have ADHD. Barkley says it is 11%. And all of them should be on drugs. There is an obvious epidemic going on with drug abuse and pharmaceutical power... And Barkley is one of those who has helped create the Adderall addiction epidemic in the US
@@anyershaman1735 He’s supposed to be learning long division, but his brain is somewhere else. He’s daydreaming about making the game-winning shot. Maybe he’s practicing his autograph in the margins of his math homework.
To me, he’s just a typical 10-year-old - but I guess I don’t see the world through Big Pharma-tinted glasses. Because when those dope peddlers look at your kid, all they see are dollar signs.
And it looks like these corporate hogs are getting ready to once again dip their filthy hooves into your family’s piggy bank to try to wring every last penny out of you that they can. To do it, they’ve even invented some sham disease that sounds like it came straight out of a Dr. Seuss book, not a medical journal.
The infamous Dr. Russell Barkley… the same guy who I could almost swear has never met a kid he wouldn’t diagnose with ADHD… has returned. And from this side of the fence it looks like he’s practically working hand-in-hand with his drug company sugar-daddies to make sure that by this time next year, your kid (and every other kid you know) never goes to school without a bottle of dangerous pills.
Barkley and his colleagues are claiming to have “discovered” a new form of ADHD that would allow AT LEAST 2 million more kids to qualify for dangerous drugs like Ritalin. Kids afflicted with Dr. Barkley’s mysterious new “sluggish cognitive tempo” could be lethargic and may spend a lot of time daydreaming.
In other words, they’re KIDS. But they won’t stay regular kids for long, once powerful stimulants like Adderall and Ritalin get them fidgeting and grinding their teeth like a pack of rabid, pill-popping zombies.
Dr. Barkley is the godfather of ADHD in America. He even publishes an ADHD newsletter for parents. But like lots of “godfathers,” he keeps some pretty shady company. He’s been accepting “fees” from Eli Lilly, one of the largest makers of ADHD meds, for years - and I’ll give you one guess who generously cooperated with his latest research.
And it’s a heck of a deal for them. ADHD drugs retail for up to $150 a month. Figure 2 million kids over 12 months, and we’re talking about a Big Pharma haul of an extra $3.6 BILLION A YEAR!
And all they had to do was invent a disease.
Any time some bigwig researcher starts pushing for more kids to take drugs, I don’t just check his background - I check his pockets. And more often than not, I find a heck of a lot more than lint.
Just months from now, doctors across America are going to start writing prescriptions for “sluggish cognitive tempo,” and they’ve got their sights set square on your kid. But before you consider dangerous drugs for your child, consider the source.
Because sluggish cognitive tempo isn’t some medical breakthrough. It’s a billion-dollar swindle that stinks worse than a desert outhouse.