Maududi on Education
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2023
- Syed Ahmed and Maududi have completely opposite attitudes towards modern education. Syed Ahmed promoted modern Western education and Maududi argued that Western education is designed to take Muslims away from Islam. In fact, these diametrically opposite positions flow directly out of the vastly different understandings of the concept of deen.
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With due respect, in this video Molana Modudi's views are wrongly interpreted. The book which is discussed in video is not related to Molana's views regarding Education.
If someone wants to know Molana's views about education system, he should read following 2 books of Syed Modudi:
1. تعلیمات
2. تنقیحات
You have entirely misrepresented Maulana Maudoodi's stance.
You have made a mountain out of wool and extrapolated it. You have also cherry-picked the quranic verse of Al-Kaferon, and built your premise out of it.
Then again in this video, cherry-picked a particular statement from Maulana Maududi’s book and drew a wrong conclusion from it.
Maulana has drawn a picture of Muslims of that time, but he was never against modern education. His own children went through modern education, his successor Ameer-e-Jamat Mian Tufail was a modern education holder, he encouraged many of Jamaat's members to go to Europe for their further education like Professor Khurshid Ahmed and Khurram murad (both were Nayib Ameer of Jamaat).
He was critical of modern education system as much as he was critical of current theological education of Madaaris. He says in his Book "اسلام کا نظام تعلیم",
"In fact, it has become necessary to abolish both educational systems that have been prevalent in our country. The old religious education system as well as the current education system that was established under British rule. Instead, we need to create a new educational system that is free of these deficiencies and can fulfill our needs as a Muslim nation at this time." (page13).
It baffles me how an educated person like you is representing Maulana Maudoodi's stance on modern education and presenting a shallow and out of text understanding of his works.
I have the same stance.
Broadcasting a scheduled episode doesn’t mean an incomplete working or great amount of biased-ness especially from someone who count them learnered.
یہی تو تضادات ہیں مودودی صاحب کی فکر میں. یعنی بولتے اور لکھتے کچھ ہیں اور کرتے کچھ اور ہیں.
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@@irshadhurra3862 mohtaram, tazaad smjh m h.
You are strawmaning Maududi. Read his full books. Read Tanqeehat and Taleemat.
Sir! I think you should share knowledge from Maududi's book تعلیمات . Because he explained that we should depend on Western as well as Islamic education. As western education never teaches us about the basic morals principles and not fulfill the requirement of a healthy society we need. Western Education is not enough to build such humans that are suitable and beneficial for a society. So for a complete and groomed society we should depend on both educations that are Western and Islamic. Western for our material needs and Islamic for our spiritual needs. Just in case of Bioweapons, scientific education educate us that how we can create Bioweapons. But not tell us that how to use it. So , Islam clearly mentions that in a war, children, females , elders and even greenery should not be destroyed or damaged. So we need both the systems of education..... You can't explain Maududi's view on education with just two passages. He wrote number of books. And explains his point of view
Totally agreed...his views about maududi are biased
You have to define 'Western Education'
Here we mean science, liberal arts, humanities.
How it is against Islam?
@@timerwentoff Western Education and Islamic Education both are the different sides of a coin.
@@ArwaSohail So, are they same or different?
@@timerwentoff I think different. Because of their hidden philosophy
Sir I think here you're being so rigid. I'm a student of political science. We study western political philosophy as well as Muslim political philosophy and philosophers.
I'm also influenced by Modudi, but I never ever thought for a minute that I wouldn't study western literature. And yes I believe too that Islam gives a fully structured system of socio-economic and political system on based some principles which are core in Quran and Sunnah.
Please stay rationale and logical and broad our minds and spectrum of analysing things.
I request again that please invite Sahil Adeem and have some healthy and fruitful discussions on these topics.
Very well balanced approach
Bro this a hypocrisy Molana maududi point of is totally different problem is not ISLAM is Deen or not . The real problem is the thinking that is Pakistan is suffering because of ISLAM and Pakistan whole social politics and economic system and justice system is against ISLAM . Changing the meaning of DEEN and confusing Normal people who didn't read about ISLAMIC system is a very big problem. Everyone have their hidden agenda.
Same request here.
I think I need to read maududi to understand the background
Yes we all should
Do read since taimur lal is absolutely twisting his words.
Read tahfeem up Quran.. you will found Mododi approach
Professor sb plz stay in ur field!
Exactly!! I must advise it .
Sir molana ki apni baiti ne MA English or baite ne mbbs kia or woh bhi aap k hyaat hoty huwe.
Mera khyal hai aap ne galat context mn le lia.
He is discussing about Islamic culture and norms on which you can disagree with him.
Or I think this topic needs a comprehensive discussion in which I will recommend Engineer Ali Mirza to do podcast with you on this topic bcz he is also an engineer.
First comment, Sir your videos are magnificent.
You should also discuss Maulana Ishaq's view on modern Education it is much cler.Moreover you have just concluded as per your view of Maududi but it coud be other way that we should not let Western sciences effet our cultural value. Whatever it is upto you how you persue it.
Very nice discussion sir, brain storming
These three personalites Maulana Maududi, Dr Israr and Dr Rafi ud deen knew each other and they all emphasise on studying social sciences, Natural sciences then analysing their relevant ayats of Quran, people who do it are astonished to see that there is no contradiction in Word of God and Work of God. Both are not different from each other, they are just two sides of same coin. According to them, One cannot understand Quran properly without understanding natural and social sciences.
You have either absolutely no idea, no clue about thought of Maulana Maududi, indeed you have not studied him, you are just showing your ignorance or are just maligning name of Maulana Maududi in your hatered of him.
Bht zbr10 sir. Keeep it up❤
Zaberdast sirr kamal ka lecture. ❤❤❤❤
Being a student, i am reading literature written by syed madududi R.A from last twelve years, found this analysis impure and contrary to his writting. I will recommend viewers , listeners please go through his literature thoroughly.Anyone how will read his specific and limited books is threat to himself, society and will do analysis like this one.
Wonderful Analysis Sir
Mashallah Sir.
Aap ka har video analysis our research Sy barphoor hota hai.
Aap ka Fan
Cheeta cheeta Prof cheeta . . . . .
Zubardust .❤
Thanks sir
Sir please .how we review book.what is the method of book review.plz make one vedio sir
Modoodi sahb himself was treated at western hospitals.
Respected sir if you read full literature of Syed Maududi you will find that this analysis of a single statement from a single book present in different reference to time and circumstance.
I have read his literature and i find that he motivates us to study in every field of life but follow only fundamental principles of islam. and he also said at many places that without science and technology we cannot establish any islamic rule which is a great denial of your video
Dr sab. Jo dekha rahy haen wo kyse ghalat hae. Wo to madoodi sb ki books he dekha rahy
@@mzs9262 mahtram yahan pay maududdi sahib ki aik book ki baat nhi ho rahi... mein ney is book k ilawa saara literature parh rakha hy is waja say mujhey ye feel hua k taumur sahib aik he sentence aik he book sayy lay k argument jeetney ki koshish ker rahey hein..please read his other book you will realize that he is not like he is protrayed by taimur sahib......
Good talk❤❤❤❤❤
فَبَدَأَ بِأَوْعِيَتِهِمْ قَبْلَ وِعَاء أَخِيهِ ثُمَّ اسْتَخْرَجَهَا مِن وِعَاء أَخِيهِ كَذَلِكَ كِدْنَا لِيُوسُفَ مَا كَانَ لِيَأْخُذَ أَخَاهُ فِي دِينِ الْمَلِكِ إِلاَّ أَن يَشَاء اللَّهُ نَرْفَعُ دَرَجَاتٍ مِّن نَّشَاء وَفَوْقَ كُلِّ ذِي عِلْمٍ عَلِيمٌ
چنانچہ یوسف نے اپنے (سگے) بھائی کے تھیلے سے پہلے دوسرے بھائیوں کے تھیلوں کی تلاشی شروع کی، پھر اُس پیالے کو اپنے (سگے) بھائی کے تھیلے میں سے برآمد کر لیا۔ اس طرح ہم نے یوسف کی خاطر یہ تدبیر کی۔ اﷲ کی یہ مشیت نہ ہوتی تو یوسف کیلئے یہ ممکن نہیں تھا کہ وہ بادشاہ کے قانون کے مطابق اپنے بھائی کو اپنے پاس رکھ لیتے، اورہم جس کو چاہتے ہیں ، اُس کے درجے بلند کر دیتے ہیں ، اور جتنے علم والے ہیں ، ان سب کے اُوپر ایک بڑا علم رکھنے والا موجود ہے
In this ayat the word "دین الملک" means king's constitution how can you say that deen means only ibadat ?
Jnab!
You have just read a half passage and reached a wrong conclusion. Kindly refer to "tafheemat", "tehreek e azadi e Hind aur muslman(new name of muslamaan aur jadeed siyaasi kashmakash)" completely, and "tanqeehat" to start with. You will come to know that he criticized traditional scholars for absolutely rejecting modern education. Maulana was for a synergy of modern and Islamic education where a Muslim studied anything he/she wanted while remaining firmly grounded in his/her religion. The passage which you read on screen refers to those Muslims who only gravitated toward Western education with no grooming as Muslims.
I have seen this tendency of you being absolutely dishonest when it comes to Maulana Maududi. Either you have not read his books, which is a pity considering you have a Ph.d. and an active interest in discussing political aspects of Islam, or you are being plainly dishonest about his ideas. For God's sake! Act like a professor and not like a prejudiced bigot. I don't see a difference between you two here.
Foreign "NGO's" operate by using such folk to disseminate misinformation. I feel bad for the average audience, who hasn't read Maududi, who may fall prey to Dr. Taimur's libel.
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صرف دین یا سبھی دین نہیں بلکہ دینِ اسلام ایک مکمل ضابطہ حیات ہے ۔
Yes Sir and getting any education without putting any labels on it Islamic or secular is also part of Deen e Islam because all knowledge is from Allah and Quran encourages us again and again to seek knowledge
May man! Lacking the basic idea of what modudi preached and what he talked but talking like he got PhD in the philosophy of Modudi! Amazing Bhai amazing! Jo Dil kre use Chipkaaty jaao 😂
Moudoodi is labeled as an anti-western preacher. He didn't talk about inclusiveness. To me, his Quranic translation is a significant achievement and I respect that but otherwise, he failed to impress us. Us means this ongoing young generation (2023).
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Perhaps you ought to ask who did this labeling? Young generation has a memory span of a squirrel, not longer than a TikTok reel; you think they can read Maududi? I doubt they could even read Maududi's pure Urdu considering that their Western-style education curriculum requires abandoning the language and traditions to adopt the one of the former colonial liege.
Jazakallah
I request that please invite Sahil Adeem and have some healthy and fruitful discussions on these topics.
That guy doesn't know how to speak..
He's modern burger of Taliban . Who thinks everything Taliban do , think or owen are undoubtedly good acts.
Pakistan of today which was Once a Place of Takshila University of the Subcontinent - the greatest place of learning in logic, mathematics, astronomy, religious debate & philosophy is going down & declining in all aspects of life & human endeavour.
What a radical teaching can do to human psychology is astounding & saddening.
خلط مبحث کا نادر نمونہ ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ علمی دیانت کا تقاضا ہے کہ کسی کو پڑھ کر ہی اس کی فکر پر بات کی جائے
Sir i suggest you that you should invite sahil adeem .He is a student of maulana mududu and also studied western education and philosophy.arrange a healthy discussion podcast with him kindly and discuss these issues
When there is confusion in core definition of topic , masses become divide in defining the topic like this is that and that is this.
مودودی صاحب کی بات کا وہ مطلب نہیں جو آپ سمجھے ہیں۔
He's not denying modem education. He's just pointing that the majority of those are under modem Western influence and don't have a good religious understanding.
Wese apki aik khas mohabbat he maududi sahab se... Jo apki videos me nazar ati he...
Nice information sir make a video on Hassan hanafi and Mohammad abed al jabri
Most educated jamaat in pakistan is mododis jamaat
Please have a discussion with Sahil Adeem on this topic of deen and whether Islam gives a complete code of life or not?
Absolutely wrong context of Moalana Moudoodi about Education. In his own book he talk about how to see modern education with the lens of Islam.
انہوں نے انتہائی غلط باتیں مولانا مودودی رح سے جوڑ دی ہیں، یہ حضرت اپنے بغض مودودی میں ہر غلط بات اُن سے جوڑ دیتے ہیں.
Agreed
You guys are delusional! He provide evidence from his book. His own writting.
@@hassanhamza5614 جی، ادھوری تصویر پیش کریں گے تو تصویر ناقص نظر آئے گی، مولانا مودودی رح کی مختلف کتب پڑھ لیں، ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رح جو مولانا مودودی رح کی سوچ رکھتے ہیں، اُن کا کتابچہ "پاکستان اور اسلام" میں عقل و نقل کی کشمکش پڑھ لیں آپ کو معلوم ہو گا کہ اِن کی سوچ "روایت" اور جدیدیت "کو جوڑنے کی ہے. اِن کے نزدیک علم ایک وحدت ہے، سائنسی و عمرانی علوم (علم الحواس) اور ہدایت قرآن (علم الوحی) دونوں مختلف نہیں بلکہ ایک دوسرے کو مکمل کرتے ہیں، اُن کے ہاں یہ سوچ ہے
He reached the logical conclusion! You have to provide the counterarguments for your stance or as you say the wrong context!
Let's not be emotional!
i havent watched all your videos but i think u didnt potrayed maududi in a right way . what i have seen the pple who understand maududi they are highly educated and thinker but they draw a red line of Islamic rules rather than complete rejection of modern views or eduction .
Very superficial research on Molana modudi's stance
Thanks a lot, really enlightening 👍👍👍👍
معاف کرنا۔
مولانا کا مغربی تعلیم کا مطلب ساینس نہیں۔
وی سائنس کے مخالف نہیں تھے۔
آپ بات کو غلط سمت لے گئے۔ اسلام نے جدیدیت کی کبھی نفی نہیں کی۔
بس جدیدیت میں جاتے وقت اسلام کے بنیادی اصول سے انحراف نہیں ہو۔
انسان روح اور جسم کا مجموعہ ہے۔
You are an intelligent man. You must learn Arabic and then Quran.
Deen means the way of life of a person, that is the way he is dealing and behaviour adopting.
Deen Islam is adopting the way of life as guided by Allah Subhanahu Taala. Thus a person is adopting the code of life as Allah Subhanahu Taala desires.
Education in any form Religious or worldly gets you closer to people and God.
Respected Sir AOA
I really enjoyed you lectures specially on economics but I think you are making mistake here I don't think Maudidi is against Modern Education I know many of the students of moudidi are very educated even have PHD form foreign Universities I am Hafiz also a software Engineer I know many ( so called fundamentalist) moulvies graduated from MIT, Harvard, Stanford etc doing great in Cyber Security, Data Science and Blockchain also Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza is a student of moudidi and Dr Israr
Islam is a complete code of life..
But sir, i assume that you are modernist, which is not a bad thing. But you said here thay modernist believes deen is bound to acts of worship. So if in quran, allah says dont play with interests nd ribah, will that commandment not come in the fold of economics? And also if quran defines economics, then we can say that it is not something to do with ibadah only. Please clarify more. Also im a big fan of urs ♥ ♥
بھائ، تیمور صاحب نے بڑا صحیح کہا کہ مجبورا" science وغیرہ پڑھنے کو کہتے ہیں یہ ابلہ مسجد۔ یہ لوگ سمجھتے اور سمجھاتے ہیں کہ دین میں سب کچھ ہے، بس تلاش کرنے کی ضرورت ہے۔
Can you give one reference where Molana Modudi , Dr. Israr Ahmed or any one from their ideology said: Islam is complete code of life hence we don't need any other source of knowledge?
Can you conclude by books of Modudi that he had this vision as you described?
Have you read 'Tanqeehat' and 'Taleemat' to explore same topic? anyway this is your point of view and has biasness :)
In old structuralist jargon, you can say that the conservative fundamentalists proclaim S1 to be S2. However, still admitting that there is indeed a gap between the two. This results in a paradox, where simply claiming the two to be one, one must establish the two as separate entities.
In plain words: God and Knowledge are two separate things, and we believe them to the one. This sentence admits that the two are not inherently the same, and conflating the two is a human operation. By saying so, the speaker betrays their own complicity in this argument.
If it were truly the case, the argument would not need to be made.
Therefore, the subtle reasoning of the conservative fundamentalist denounces its own claimed belief.
Furthermore, the position of the speaker seems to originate from above (above even S1), as a position that can pass judgment over the nature of God. This is a heresy. It ought to be opposed by progressive fundamentalism.
Did Maududi say you should not have scientific education?
To make a move you need energy then how compact is your energy source is! It depends upon survival power, extended limits for hot and cold, or resistance (hardness) etc then what religion or faith can you? Obviously it helps you to achieve better survival power, resistance, means better energy source. In other words what is right for you and what to avoid. Either you satisfy yourself by praying 24 hours or standing in a busy street.
Ustaad g you are doing zabardast job ❤️
You r totally understand about jammate islami
Sir biased analysis hai
ماشااللہ پاکستان مدینہ کی ریاست بن چکا ہے جس میں انسانی حقوق نہیں بجلی پانی گیس دستیاب نہیں زندگی کی بنیادی سہولیات موجود نہیں اب تو 25 کروڑ جانور کے پاس کھانے کے لیے آٹا بھی موجود نہیں ماشاءاللہ مدینہ کی ریاست ختم نبوت ہے
maududi sahab died in New York City btw :)
According to me, every philosopher, thinker, scientist, politician and many others were thinking and giving opinions according to their own era and the available environment. Many ideas of such thinkers are obsolete today. we had malvis who in 90s were against pictures and videos but today every molvi has its own youtube channel. Things and ideas change with time. So ijjtehad, Qiyas and Ijma is required time to time.
Oh , so that's one of the reasons why we Pakistanis don't like to learn natural science and social sciences.
And if we learn, we do it just for employment. Finally.. isn't it our hypocrisy!
Sir can you please explain k Allah k qareeb deen srf islam hai.
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Molana Ubaidullah Sindhi ka Nazarya inqilab kya Hai is par video pleaz Sir
Dr taimur, i could hardly understand your statements. I have studied Tafhimul Quraan. Islam is modern religion. I do not agree with maodudi .
Dusray Adyan bhi thay lekin unho ne apnay deen apni taraf se changes kr li hai isliye ab wo deen na raha islam k ilawa
Enthusiastic analysis
Sir ye lecture apka nihayat shaandar hah. AP ne abhi tak pori BAAT nahi samjhi hah apko mazeed study ki zaroorat hah
10 class main universe wala chapter ko mera teacher shapper ( unimportant like plastic shopping bag) kehta tha.
kunsa board ka 10th class ?
Sir don't misleads the viewers to the wrong direction here my request to viewers you can watch videos of sahil adeem on modern education with respect to islam......
What are your thoughts on Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza he called himself a student of moudidi and Dr Israr
آپ نے سورہ الکافرون کے ضمن میں کہا کہ دین مطلب عبادات وغیرہ آپ کے مطابق دین کا مطلب نظام نہیں ھوتا
لیکن سورہ یوسف میں بادشاہ مصر کے نظام اور قانون کو دین کہا گیا ہے
اور یوسف اپنے بھائی کو بادشاہ کے دین یعنی نظام اور قانون کے مطابق روک نہیں سکتے تھے
Bahut acha laga Islamic video
You are misguiding by picking shorts
پروفیسر تیمور بھائی رہنمائی فرمائیں
Sir you are using all logical fallacies you taught us against modudi sb. 😊😊
Maududi was a fanatic.
Professor is Topic par tum ne apna programme warh diya hai.....😂😂cherry-picked
The interpretation of Deen that I understood from Dr. Israr's book Serat ul Nabi is that Deen is way of living or the system which you follow,
For example if we follow the system of democracy it will is the Deen of democracy in terms of running the government but not as a whole.
And Islam is complete way of living so are the other Deens such as Hinduism but which is the right one so Allah refers to Deen Islam as Deen UL Haq means it is the right one the true one in which everything is Haq.
Even though the other religions are complete way of living or systems such as Hinduism or Budhassiam but they aren't the Deen UL Haq.
This what I understand
There is no fatwa on you. you raised many questions. you analyzed many points these days, but the question is that islamic economics is a reality. we have a complete way of running the country's economy. if you want to do research, then answer it. otherwise, i will think that it is an escape route or malice۔
I don't think mulana Maududi was against the western education but he was against the way we make dogma of westren education that it is the absolute truth...
Har religion apnai waqt mai deen tha aur islam contemporary time Kai liyai deen hai........We can say that in present world only islam deen hai
ye wazih hai k kis k ajende per kaam kar rahe hain
Mr you are a student of Waheedudin Khan and Gamdhi
Miss interpreted
I am thinking that Pakistan as a Nation can't make a Justice with their Makers also than
how can we believe that it become able to justice with its own public?
There was a time Muslims scientists started and were leading modern education e.g Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology, etc. from where they got inspired? Quran describes only core concepts, meaning of existence and purpose of life or the most important things. We have been encouraged many times to understand universe, discover Allah signs, excel in life and make people's life easier. What I believe is there is only one system on which this whole universe operates. Muslims were never against modern education instead they were the one who started but since Muslims were leading so they always credited Allah's system for any new development. What few modern day scientists, philosophers, socio economics experts did they build a whole case and used scientific phenomena's and other concepts against religion and our religious personalities were not able to defend due to incompetency. Although, I haven't read Modudi but what could be his context that since all the modern education is lead by non muslims it is very likely for you get distracted from the core concepts of Islam but that doesn't mean we should not go for modern education. It is more important for today's students to look at modern education and concepts from quranic lens.
Maulana maudoodi ke bare me aapne haq farmaya.
Maulana Maudoodi ki fikr bhi haq par mabni thi
Islam is complete code of life with IJTIHAD in recent time frame.
Kindly read Reconstruction of religious thought in Islam by Sir Muhammad Iqbal
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Leftist teachers are present mostly Public General Universities Such as Sindh University, Quaid e azam University etc. Even they are more than Rightist people.
This buddy hasn't read Maududi sb. All his (Modudi's) followers or those influnced by him have got western education, but only Taimoor sb got the understanding that Maududi sb is against W. Education. I would humbly advise him to study Maududi sb with open heart without pre-occuptaion. This is not intellectual way of thinking or talking
No doubt, Madudi books are banned in Saudi Arabia now.
Because Maududi was a revolutionary and no authoritarian dictatorship will ever entertain anything that foments revolution. It's not rocket science.
Taimur Sahib,
Maulana Maudoodi did not practised what he preached. He enabled all his children to attain modern or western education.
His ardent followers like Khurrum Murad, a prolific writer on Islam and a Naib Ameer of Jamaat e Islami was a civil engineer by profession. And same goes to Khursheed Ahmad, who happened to be a prominent economist by profession. Sadly enough, both Maulana Maudoodi and Dr Israr Ahmad were aspirants of "Khooni Inqalab" from among the general masses whilst their offsprings are equipped with the modern education.
Sir , where is the name of Abul Qalam Azad, Ubaidullah Sindhi in your circle of islamia scholars
Summarizing everything on sir syed and maudidi isn't justice in my opinion.
Modudi was right .... Tosein na mano ... Sir Syed ki aligarh sai kiya nikla hai ....Kiya post colonial studies wahein kuch nahein kehti jo modudi kehta thaa bas ous ki darhi thee eis liye apko pasand nai ...
You’ve certainly drawn wrong conclusions and I do not agree with what you have said in this video,
تمام مذاہب اپنی اصل میں دین اسلام ہیں کوئی تضاد نہیں جناب
Respected and honourable comrade here you are mixing the things...Iqra is firsr word of communication and it means read.....our religion always tell us about teachings....our religion never prohibited us from any type of learning and teaching.....What Quran and Our beloved Prophet(PBUH) tell us is enough for us....scholars references not makes matter.
Women's participated in every fields of life at the time of Prophet (PBUH).
From Balochistan
Unfortunately sir , u r not clear in your words i think u have not read madududi thoroughly.
This person is jahil. How he got into professor job, I don't know.
Moudodi sahb k baat 100fesd tek hai