@@fatimaaah936 I don't have concrete data but the majority hold views that fall in the fundementalist category that Dr Taimur explained from my experience
Mujhy philosophie ki abcd bhi nhi Pata tha lekin history of philosophie wali séries JO ek dosray me Channel me thi bht hi behtreen work hai asan aur urdu me bht maza aya .. Plz IS tarah ki informatique vidéos banty rehye pakistani aawam bht door hain In kitabai duniya khas kr JO Bachy matrice systèm me un KO ksi bhi philosophie ka préhistoire ka Koi ilm nhi
JazakAllahh Sir.. ❤ Kindly keep sharing your knowledge. Apki videos ka intezarr rehta h . In videos ka bht benefit ho rhaa h .. duniya ki smjh any lage h kuch kuch.
Ustad e mohtram app ny evolution ki bat ki ha app plz ek detail lecture bnayen k faith or evolution ko kesy deal kren k dono chlti rhen ager yh theory true ha kyun k yh contradiction ha between Quran and science so plz plz plz apko bht follow kr RHA hu mujhy truth ki talash ha ek lecture zrur bna dein aap to ilm waale b hain .. I am waiting
اسلامک فنڈامینٹیلزم کا مطلب اسلامی اقدار کے پابند ہونا۔۔۔ان تین بزرگان کو یہ لقب اس لیے دیا کیونکہ انہوں نے دین کی أئیڈیولوجیکل تفسیر کی ۔۔۔۔۔خداوند ان کے درجات بلند کریں!
Sir biggest problems in this analysis is that you are making analogy between Christianity and Islam Secondly ghamdi sahib narrative is bit complex than you explaned it Thirdly, You view about you defined fundamentalist is also worng in following points. As they beive in ( muhawara ) They also beive that some verser are specific so certain occasion Further they also believe that interpretation of some ayat can be reinterpreted with era The actual debate in Muslim domain is that intellect is the creation of god so it cannot give decision about its creator and all the ruling will be interpreted exactly same as Allahs prophet did.
I think that both of narratives are wrong. One should understand Quran. Not in a literal meaning and not in a sense that we try to feed our words in Quran.
There is a long list of scholars who have been strong advocate of modern interpretation of Islam, such as, Molvi Charagh Ali, Syed Amir Ali, Molana Aslam Jeerajpuri, Ghulam Ahmed Pervez, to name a few. In other countries, the names of Dr. Ali Shariati, Dr. Taha Hussain are coming to. my mind. I wonder if there is some scholar who could give a comprehensive talk on this stream of thought.
Nawaz Sharif proudly declared that he was a fundamentalst because he believes in the fundamentals of Islam, back in nineties, without having a clue what fundamentalism is all about. What fools we have as our leaders and heads of states and government.
Let socialism remain issue of social justice and don't attack the only continuous institution of sanity in human history- the God sent religion of Islam
مسلم دو اصول بناتے ہیں عملی نوعیت کے اور اصولی نوعیت کے 1 جو عملی ہیں ان میں تبدیلی نہیں جیسے نماز روزہ حج وغیرہ دوسرے ہیں اصولی نوعیت کے ان میں تبدیلی ممکن ہے جیسے حکم ہے جہاد کے لیے تیاری رکھو تو ہم تلوار سے تو نئ لڑتے میزائل سے جدید اسلحے سے لڑتے ہیں سکھ کی طرح خنجر تو نئ لٹکاتے لہذا ذہن سے سوچو گے تو فلاسفہ کی طرح ایمان سے ہاتھ دھو بیٹھو گے
We read Quran without learning arabic language ,this can be said for more than 50% of muslims around the world ,its like explaining shakespeare to some one who does not know english ,this is a joke
Gross injustice to compare both christianity and islam. If "fundamentalism" is to say one believes in one's scripture that it is verbatim from God then all muslims are basically "fundamentalists". If one says no "fundamentalism" is to say there is only one literal interpretation of the scripture than this claim does not hold up to scrutiny too, cos there are four major school of thoughts and Taliban would not qualify as "fundamentalists" cos they are muqalids i.e following one of the schools of thought. Infact TLP also would not qualify for this pejorative term they are muqalids too (if it is considered that only ghair muqalids who mostly follow literalist interpretation of Quran are to be labelled as "fundamentalists" even then Muadudi would not qualify fot this title. He too has his interpretation sometimes contested by hanafis and he is not literalists in ghair muqalid sense those who are called ahl e hadeeth or follow ibn e taimiya). Taliban and TLP dont believe in literalist strictly one interpretation of Islam in the sense that there is room for difference of opinion in the school others follow. But they are labelled as "fundamentalists". Infact you sometimes use this term too and label others with this pejorative term. So there is nuanced which is completely missing in this video. Now i know why do marxists in marxists circles here in pakistan pin point these three figures , those mentioned in the slides, as "fundamentalists". They are fed and they don't think on this term cos they are fed only one side of story without any nuances and they claim to be torch bearer of critical theory. In addition, if calling for ijtehad on the issues that arise in an age one lives in is to labelled as "modernists" then shah waliullah is also a modernist who based this work "hujatullahil baligha" on this that there is need for ijtehad in Islam. Last not least it seems to me you have copy pasted western academic works on this which smacks of orientalism to me that is why it is gross injustice to compare christianity and islam.
shifting between days and nights.... tips/clues for thinkers. no mentioned that these thinkers are fundamentals??? There are a lot of such verses in Quran.
It is necessary for you to study deeply Islamic system then you will know that Islam is complete code of life because you don't know a school student have more knowledge from you
آپ نے اپنی رائے نہیں دی ۔۔۔ ؟ اسلام کونسا طرز حکومت بتاتا ہے ؟ جمہوریت یا آمریت ؟ اگر جمہوریت کو برتر مانا جائے تو اس سوال کا کیا جواب ہے کہ عوام کی اکثریت ہمیشہ ہلا گلہ ، کھیل تماشا ، روشنیوں کی چک و چوند اور گلیمر کو پسند کرتی ہے ؟ کیا یہ اکثریت صیح فیصلہ کرے گی ؟ اگر آمریت کو بہتر مانا جائے تو اس سوال کا کیا جواب ہے کہ کوئی ایک شخص یا ایک گروہ اپنی من مانی کرکے محل تمیر کر لے گا اور لوگوں کو سسکتا چھوڑ دے گا ؟
Two major things here i found to be fallacious and would appreciate a response (again i guess I'll apologize in advance if i end saying something that seems harsh or out of place) 1. 10:24 That's just one moment where an intellectual inconsistency/hypocrisy of yours (and in my experience pak secularists in general). While you believe trying to change science to fit another view is "gurbur" why won't u extend the swme logic towards Muslims? U say that caue you believe science to be objective (to a great extent) then by that logic you should openly admit that Muslims should also treat "reinterpretation" as "gurbur" as that is simply distorting objective truth yo fit another view. 2. It honestly looks like you're hyper imposing views held regarding a certain people/religion, in a certain geographical location at a certain time to Muslims/Islam. Your entire "lecture" is based on the assumption that it is impossible that there are people who believe that both "fundamentalist islam" and science have no problems co existing (which btw in my view are most Muslims i know AND a view also held by non-contemporary Islamic scholarship AND the most vividly true one). There were also a couple of other "binaries" you were forcing in the same manner
Ghamidi SB fundamentalist nhi Hain, Woh Batatay Hain k falan jagha Quran mein us waqt k logon ya halat k hawalay se baat ki gae hai, dosra Woh yeh bhi kehte Hain k arbi mahawaray k tor pe Kuch cheezain bayan ki gae Hain, Jo k arbi adab k lihaaz se bilkul Sahi aur understandable hai.
بائبل ،تورات و دیگر مقدس کتابوں میں تحریف ہوئی ہے لہذا سب کو دعوت دیتاہوں کی اسلام کا مطالعہ کریں ایک چیز بھی غیر عقلی و غیر سائنسی نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔جزاک اللہ ۔۔۔
I am sorry to say this but Dr Sahab you have a very limited understanding of Salafism. Considering that you consider literal interpretation of Religion as a key proponent of Islamic fundamentalism I am very disappointed to say that you linked Islamic Fundamentalism to Christian Fundamentalism and presented it as movement made in opposition to Darwinism or Modern Science. As a matter of fact the idea of literal interpretation of the Quran predates most of Modern science and its earliest records are found in the works of 9th Century jurist Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Imam Ahmad was a key opponent of the Mu’tazilites, his argument with them was on the fact the he believed that the Attributes of God mentioned in the Quran should be interpreted *Literally* whereas Mut’azilla believed that it should be interpreted metaphorically and not only that Imam Ahmad traced back his beliefs to the Prophet(saw and his Companions. Another famous Salafi Jurist is ibn taymiyyah who also predates most of modern science and who also advocated for the literal interpretation of the Quran. Linking Ayatollah Khomeini with the Salafi movement shows your ignorance of the subject as Khomeini and Salafi differ a lot theologically. Many Salafis even consider Khomeini a Heretic! also salafis don’t really think very good of the other 2 figures you mentionedas well who are Sayyid Qutb and Maulana Maududi. For a more detailed description of Salafism watch this: ua-cam.com/video/8so2h21Mznk/v-deo.html As for modernist vs Fundamentalist and your whole video precisely the definition you have used for Islamic fundamentalist is a Muslim who opposes the Western interpretation of Science *(Scientism) or rather Philosophical naturalism* , Women Rights *(Feminism)* and Laws *(Secular Laws based on liberal values which clearly contradict with the Shariah)* and using this definition the whole Muslim Ummah can be considered as Salafis but if we look at the real definition of Salafis than the only two groups that can be considered Salafis in accordance to their Aqeedah and Methodology are the Wahabi movement of Saudi Arabia and Ahl Hadith movement of the sub continent (btw this is also mentioned in the video I shared early in this comment). As for democracy I doubt that something like democracy can even exist( I could be wrong): muslimskeptic.com/2022/05/12/why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-democracy-in-the-modern-world/ And for hudud law in the modern world you should watch these debates maybe these might help: ua-cam.com/users/liveK54-9SInMuY?feature=share ua-cam.com/video/GpUBpZDmNYU/v-deo.html
Taimur bhai Adaab Sat Sri Akaal 🙏 Hamesha ki tarah hi bahut Shaandaar ...🙏🙏
I live in the UK and this has helped me understand British Muslims. By far the majority are fundementalist.
How did u reach this conclusion?
@@fatimaaah936 I don't have concrete data but the majority hold views that fall in the fundementalist category that Dr Taimur explained from my experience
In my personal experience with fundementalist Muslims has been pretty good. What's the problem with them?
Always wait for you to your precious talk ❤❤❤
behtareen sir jee jazak allah
Mujhy philosophie ki abcd bhi nhi Pata tha lekin history of philosophie wali séries JO ek dosray me Channel me thi bht hi behtreen work hai asan aur urdu me bht maza aya ..
Plz IS tarah ki informatique vidéos banty rehye pakistani aawam bht door hain In kitabai duniya khas kr JO Bachy matrice systèm me un KO ksi bhi philosophie ka préhistoire ka Koi ilm nhi
Thank you so much sir. These "Basic Explainer" videos are EXTREMELY helpful for students and learners. Just love them 😍 thank you so so much
JazakAllahh Sir.. ❤ Kindly keep sharing your knowledge. Apki videos ka intezarr rehta h .
In videos ka bht benefit ho rhaa h .. duniya ki smjh any lage h kuch kuch.
The most articulate presentation.
'THE WAY OF THE SALAF' graphic reminded me of 'The Godfather'.
I'm Fundamentalist
Thanks for elaboration
Very useful informative vedio.
Excellent conversation
Love your videos, Thank your for sharing your knowledge with us. ❤
Nice sir
Sir this lecture is very useful please one lecture for "pragmatism" i humble request sir
Thanks sir
U give the best content ❤
Ustad e mohtram app ny evolution ki bat ki ha app plz ek detail lecture bnayen k faith or evolution ko kesy deal kren k dono chlti rhen ager yh theory true ha kyun k yh contradiction ha between Quran and science so plz plz plz apko bht follow kr RHA hu mujhy truth ki talash ha ek lecture zrur bna dein aap to ilm waale b hain .. I am waiting
Sir Maza agaya
Good 👍
Splendid explanation of fundamentalist
Sir I have learned alot from ❤
U r great...
What's difference between fundamentalist and literalist?
اسلامک فنڈامینٹیلزم کا مطلب اسلامی اقدار کے پابند ہونا۔۔۔ان تین بزرگان کو یہ لقب اس لیے دیا کیونکہ انہوں نے دین کی أئیڈیولوجیکل تفسیر کی ۔۔۔۔۔خداوند ان کے درجات بلند کریں!
All these Sehooni Terms
They are the Root Cause of All The Confusion and Chaos
Concept❤👍
Sir biggest problems in this analysis is that you are making analogy between Christianity and Islam
Secondly ghamdi sahib narrative is bit complex than you explaned it
Thirdly,
You view about you defined fundamentalist is also worng in following points.
As they beive in ( muhawara )
They also beive that some verser are specific so certain occasion
Further they also believe that interpretation of some ayat can be reinterpreted with era
The actual debate in Muslim domain is that intellect is the creation of god so it cannot give decision about its creator and all the ruling will be interpreted exactly same as Allahs prophet did.
No one said that fundamentalists are consistent 😊
Sir It might be best if you used to answer the question that why Khomeini's revolution rely on Iran instead any other?
Means not married with natural resources yes true brother thank you ❤️🙏❤️🙏
Very good video but I was surprised that people like Maulana Maudidi would fall under salafism because I always though they were distinct groups.
Sir is extremism is the extreme term of fundamentalism?
I think that both of narratives are wrong.
One should understand Quran. Not in a literal meaning and not in a sense that we try to feed our words in Quran.
There is a long list of scholars who have been strong advocate of modern interpretation of Islam, such as, Molvi Charagh Ali, Syed Amir Ali, Molana Aslam Jeerajpuri, Ghulam Ahmed Pervez, to name a few. In other countries, the names of Dr. Ali Shariati, Dr. Taha Hussain are coming to. my mind. I wonder if there is some scholar who could give a comprehensive talk on this stream of thought.
Read Talimaat by Maududi
Respected sir, you summarized the Islamic philosophy and thought, without shah waliullah and maulana ubaidullah Sindhi , it is not justice.
Nawaz Sharif proudly declared that he was a fundamentalst because he believes in the fundamentals of Islam, back in nineties, without having a clue what fundamentalism is all about. What fools we have as our leaders and heads of states and government.
Selfi rewards inform about self respect perfect
Let socialism remain issue of social justice and don't attack the only continuous institution of sanity in human history- the God sent religion of Islam
Lets be honest have you studied Quran yourself and understand it
@@Worldnoor177 yes. Don't get carried away in some stupid woke rant that every conservative or right winger is a madarsah trash.
⚖️ yah perfect 😂😂😂
مسلم دو اصول بناتے ہیں عملی نوعیت کے اور اصولی نوعیت کے 1 جو عملی ہیں ان میں تبدیلی نہیں جیسے نماز روزہ حج وغیرہ دوسرے ہیں اصولی نوعیت کے ان میں تبدیلی ممکن ہے جیسے حکم ہے جہاد کے لیے تیاری رکھو تو ہم تلوار سے تو نئ لڑتے میزائل سے جدید اسلحے سے لڑتے ہیں سکھ کی طرح خنجر تو نئ لٹکاتے لہذا ذہن سے سوچو گے تو فلاسفہ کی طرح ایمان سے ہاتھ دھو بیٹھو گے
Please give your opinion of MUTTAH MARRIAGE ,
Sir Why Sunni Scholar not discussed in your video..?
Is there any reason?
Molana maudodi?
Syed qutub
We read Quran without learning arabic language ,this can be said for more than 50% of muslims around the world ,its like explaining shakespeare to some one who does not know english ,this is a joke
Islam itself is a joke, like why TF do we need an Arabic death cult as our religion
They don't even learn tajweed and even claim Urdu is sufficient to read and read the translations. Khalaas!
Gross injustice to compare both christianity and islam. If "fundamentalism" is to say one believes in one's scripture that it is verbatim from God then all muslims are basically "fundamentalists". If one says no "fundamentalism" is to say there is only one literal interpretation of the scripture than this claim does not hold up to scrutiny too, cos there are four major school of thoughts and Taliban would not qualify as "fundamentalists" cos they are muqalids i.e following one of the schools of thought. Infact TLP also would not qualify for this pejorative term they are muqalids too (if it is considered that only ghair muqalids who mostly follow literalist interpretation of Quran are to be labelled as "fundamentalists" even then Muadudi would not qualify fot this title. He too has his interpretation sometimes contested by hanafis and he is not literalists in ghair muqalid sense those who are called ahl e hadeeth or follow ibn e taimiya). Taliban and TLP dont believe in literalist strictly one interpretation of Islam in the sense that there is room for difference of opinion in the school others follow. But they are labelled as "fundamentalists". Infact you sometimes use this term too and label others with this pejorative term. So there is nuanced which is completely missing in this video. Now i know why do marxists in marxists circles here in pakistan pin point these three figures , those mentioned in the slides, as "fundamentalists". They are fed and they don't think on this term cos they are fed only one side of story without any nuances and they claim to be torch bearer of critical theory. In addition, if calling for ijtehad on the issues that arise in an age one lives in is to labelled as "modernists" then shah waliullah is also a modernist who based this work "hujatullahil baligha" on this that there is need for ijtehad in Islam. Last not least it seems to me you have copy pasted western academic works on this which smacks of orientalism to me that is why it is gross injustice to compare christianity and islam.
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Fundamental is the fundamentalists is the People of the Banana Republic of Pakistan.taught by the Maulans and the Moulvis next fanatics
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shifting between days and nights.... tips/clues for thinkers. no mentioned that these thinkers are fundamentals??? There are a lot of such verses in Quran.
It is necessary for you to study deeply Islamic system then you will know that Islam is complete code of life because you don't know a school student have more knowledge from you
1:55 - Haha!
Javed ahmad ghamidi jesa bara alim sadeon me ek peda hota ha
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آپ نے اپنی رائے نہیں دی ۔۔۔ ؟
اسلام کونسا طرز حکومت بتاتا ہے ؟ جمہوریت یا آمریت ؟
اگر جمہوریت کو برتر مانا جائے تو اس سوال کا کیا جواب ہے کہ عوام کی اکثریت ہمیشہ ہلا گلہ ، کھیل تماشا ، روشنیوں کی چک و چوند اور گلیمر کو پسند کرتی ہے ؟ کیا یہ اکثریت صیح فیصلہ کرے گی ؟
اگر آمریت کو بہتر مانا جائے تو اس سوال کا کیا جواب ہے کہ کوئی ایک شخص یا ایک گروہ اپنی من مانی کرکے محل تمیر کر لے گا اور لوگوں کو سسکتا چھوڑ دے گا ؟
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Two major things here i found to be fallacious and would appreciate a response (again i guess I'll apologize in advance if i end saying something that seems harsh or out of place)
1.
10:24
That's just one moment where an intellectual inconsistency/hypocrisy of yours (and in my experience pak secularists in general).
While you believe trying to change science to fit another view is "gurbur" why won't u extend the swme logic towards Muslims? U say that caue you believe science to be objective (to a great extent) then by that logic you should openly admit that Muslims should also treat "reinterpretation" as "gurbur" as that is simply distorting objective truth yo fit another view.
2.
It honestly looks like you're hyper imposing views held regarding a certain people/religion, in a certain geographical location at a certain time to Muslims/Islam.
Your entire "lecture" is based on the assumption that it is impossible that there are people who believe that both "fundamentalist islam" and science have no problems co existing (which btw in my view are most Muslims i know AND a view also held by non-contemporary Islamic scholarship AND the most vividly true one). There were also a couple of other "binaries" you were forcing in the same manner
Ghamidi SB fundamentalist nhi Hain, Woh Batatay Hain k falan jagha Quran mein us waqt k logon ya halat k hawalay se baat ki gae hai, dosra Woh yeh bhi kehte Hain k arbi mahawaray k tor pe Kuch cheezain bayan ki gae Hain, Jo k arbi adab k lihaaz se bilkul Sahi aur understandable hai.
بائبل ،تورات و دیگر مقدس کتابوں میں تحریف ہوئی ہے لہذا سب کو دعوت دیتاہوں کی اسلام کا مطالعہ کریں ایک چیز بھی غیر عقلی و غیر سائنسی نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔جزاک اللہ ۔۔۔
I am sorry to say this but Dr Sahab you have a very limited understanding of Salafism. Considering that you consider literal interpretation of Religion as a key proponent of Islamic fundamentalism I am very disappointed to say that you linked Islamic Fundamentalism to Christian Fundamentalism and presented it as movement made in opposition to Darwinism or Modern Science. As a matter of fact the idea of literal interpretation of the Quran predates most of Modern science and its earliest records are found in the works of 9th Century jurist Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Imam Ahmad was a key opponent of the Mu’tazilites, his argument with them was on the fact the he believed that the Attributes of God mentioned in the Quran should be interpreted *Literally* whereas Mut’azilla believed that it should be interpreted metaphorically and not only that Imam Ahmad traced back his beliefs to the Prophet(saw and his Companions. Another famous Salafi Jurist is ibn taymiyyah who also predates most of modern science and who also advocated for the literal interpretation of the Quran. Linking Ayatollah Khomeini with the Salafi movement shows your ignorance of the subject as Khomeini and Salafi differ a lot theologically. Many Salafis even consider Khomeini a Heretic! also salafis don’t really think very good of the other 2 figures you mentionedas well who are Sayyid Qutb and Maulana Maududi. For a more detailed description of Salafism watch this:
ua-cam.com/video/8so2h21Mznk/v-deo.html
As for modernist vs Fundamentalist and your whole video precisely the definition you have used for Islamic fundamentalist is a Muslim who opposes the Western interpretation of Science *(Scientism) or rather Philosophical naturalism* , Women Rights *(Feminism)* and Laws *(Secular Laws based on liberal values which clearly contradict with the Shariah)* and using this definition the whole Muslim Ummah can be considered as Salafis but if we look at the real definition of Salafis than the only two groups that can be considered Salafis in accordance to their Aqeedah and Methodology are the Wahabi movement of Saudi Arabia and Ahl Hadith movement of the sub continent (btw this is also mentioned in the video I shared early in this comment).
As for democracy I doubt that something like democracy can even exist( I could be wrong):
muslimskeptic.com/2022/05/12/why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-democracy-in-the-modern-world/
And for hudud law in the modern world you should watch these debates maybe these might help:
ua-cam.com/users/liveK54-9SInMuY?feature=share
ua-cam.com/video/GpUBpZDmNYU/v-deo.html
I am shocked you are defending Islam Fundamentalist post experiencing the Pakistan and Bangladesh which was out of Islamic Fundamentalist
Discussing religion is degenerative
ہزار سالوں سے غلط کیا کہہ رہے ہو آپ ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ایسی فضولیات بک رہے ہو۔۔۔۔۔ غلط پیش کیا اسلام کو۔ کیا کہتے ہو۔۔۔۔۔۔
Thanks sir
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