BMW E39 M5 vs. Jaguar S-Type R with Tiff Needell

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  • @ollyyung2859
    @ollyyung2859 2 роки тому +113

    Tiff Needell is one of the true greats of car reviewers

    • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
      @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Рік тому +3

      No doubt about it. One thing I always enjoy about him is he never seemed to want to try to compete with the Jeremy Clarkson type of vehicle review. He did his own thing(partly because he pre-dated Jeremy Clarkson). So his method always feels so much more authentic than the vast majority of vehicle reviewers who came after Jeremy Clarkson.

    • @kize32
      @kize32 Рік тому

      Tiff is an F1 legend 😂. Love his reviews. Always sideways and with a smile on his face

    • @Salpeteroxid
      @Salpeteroxid 9 місяців тому +1

      It really helps he's a professional driver and has some serious skills. You can really trust his reviews. As a sports car owner myself I appreciate his angle very much.

  • @bogdantora
    @bogdantora 2 роки тому +72

    Bmw E39= THE Ultimate driving machine.

    • @henlienr22
      @henlienr22 2 роки тому +1

      @Eemeli Liimatainen i feel sorry for your lack of comprehension

    • @wa-wt3yi
      @wa-wt3yi 2 роки тому

      Im agree with you man!

    • @s2kalban
      @s2kalban 2 роки тому

      @E L lol guess you dont know a lot about e39 m5s lol. Shit the early 90s 6 series were horrible then I'd put the v12 7 series next. The e39 m5 was solid and reliable. No worse than a 540i.

  • @Alexander_l322
    @Alexander_l322 2 роки тому +64

    That BMW is still ‘on the road’ although it’s barely been driven in its life. The number plate is still on it and its only ever needed tyres for the MOTs by the looks of it.

    • @graemecreegan6749
      @graemecreegan6749 2 роки тому +4

      It was driven for at least 3 laps by Tiff. Properly driven. And may have needed tyres afterwards 😁

    • @rsporsche
      @rsporsche 2 роки тому +1

      Current holder of that plate is a Lemans blue with Silverstone interior.. not this car.

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 2 роки тому +2

      @@rsporsche I just know it’s a M5 from this era. Could be this one is wrapped or painted in blue now? And interior changed? It comes up as a blue 2002 BMW M5 so idk.

    • @rsporsche
      @rsporsche 2 роки тому +3

      @@Alexander_l322 To be honest I don't know much about the car's history, but if you look there are some recent articles/youtube videos on the car and it's definitely a different one.
      Here it is if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/O0RIKmRE-VY/v-deo.html

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 2 роки тому +1

      @@rsporsche I am interested and I looked! It’s got the same plate but doesn’t look to be the same car. I left a comment asking about it.

  • @MarksWheels
    @MarksWheels 2 роки тому +32

    I remember watching this when it first came out and remember really wanting that Jag. Little did i know 20 years later id get my wish. Thanks for posting this

    • @FunBitesTV
      @FunBitesTV Рік тому +1

      How's it going almost a year later?

    • @MarksWheels
      @MarksWheels Рік тому +1

      @@FunBitesTV awesome! I currently have the blower out chasing a water leak but have taken the opportunity to have it upgraded ua-cam.com/video/2O6sNVayc4U/v-deo.html

    • @spikespiegel2246
      @spikespiegel2246 4 місяці тому +2

      He wants the M5. 😅 @@FunBitesTV

  • @bogdaniorgulescu1641
    @bogdaniorgulescu1641 2 роки тому +197

    The M5 is so legendary

    • @psworks6603
      @psworks6603 2 роки тому +12

      Good look and have fun with S62 engine. Jag is much more reliable and cheaper to run. As a heavy classic sedan the Jag makes way more sense nowadays.

    • @hondamanvtec2894
      @hondamanvtec2894 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah by now it has been repaired 10000 times

    • @greengiant1017
      @greengiant1017 2 роки тому +7

      @@psworks6603 more reliable and cheaper to run :DDD

    • @singh2702
      @singh2702 2 роки тому +5

      @@psworks6603 Superchargers are inefficient , doubt it will be cheaper to run.

    • @psworks6603
      @psworks6603 2 роки тому +11

      @@singh2702 the S62 Engine is pice of shit in terms of reliability and now even the 2nd hand market is empty as a source for S62 blocks which all will have a cylinder wall burnt under the gasket or scratches due to high oil consumption because of bad piston rings. Most of the M5 E39 nowadays are either garage queens or already got their einigen repaired many times (mostly cheap, as the majority of bmw-wankers can’t afford an engine repair more expensive than the car itself).
      Jaguars AJ 4.2 SC einige is one of the most reliable engines ever with almost no flaws (well the timing chain has to be replaced someday) and the rest of the car is technically way more solid than the M5.
      I’m not a Jag Fanboy, but owned an M5 2012-2014 and sold it for parts.

  • @josagen
    @josagen Рік тому +6

    I love seeing Tiff fool around with RWD cars. It's just spectacular.

  • @FALCORTON
    @FALCORTON 2 роки тому +46

    damn this guy really put these cars to the test. hell yeah

  • @ic1815
    @ic1815 2 роки тому +19

    That Eaton supercharger on the Jag will always bring a smile to my face. Such a wonderful sound.

    • @datsoon9236
      @datsoon9236 2 роки тому +7

      Sounds like a little kid going, "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE"

    • @DolleHengst
      @DolleHengst 2 роки тому +5

      Sounds like a mosquito close to your ear

    • @smokeymotorsport
      @smokeymotorsport 2 роки тому +2

      Sounds like a failed alternator bearing to me! Each to their own I guess

    • @ic1815
      @ic1815 2 роки тому +2

      @@smokeymotorsport lol… yeah, sure.

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power Рік тому +1

      @@ic1815 Sounds like a Vulcan taking off

  • @NZotyoka81
    @NZotyoka81 4 місяці тому +1

    I love these old jaguars, i had a ‘03 stype 3.0v6 with the 6spd almost fully loaded. Although it wasn’t a problem free car but it has always started and never let me down. Loved the look and the comfort so much. I got a ton of good compliments from the people all the time on a daily bases. My favorite was when the small kids got frozen then started to waving with a huge smile on their faces. Just only for that itself was worth thoes hafty service bills what i always had. Still love and miss the car and have zero regrets. The s type is a timeless and beautiful car and would buy it again.

  • @kevinkarbonik2928
    @kevinkarbonik2928 2 роки тому +40

    e39 all day long

  • @mattwarren69
    @mattwarren69 2 роки тому +9

    god bless the M5.
    Legend

  • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
    @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Рік тому +20

    Comparing the Jaguar S-Type R to any German super sedan from BMW/Audi/Mercedes is unfair to the Jag. But comparing it to the E39 M5 falls under terms that violate the Nuremberg agreement of cruel and unusual punishment. For my money, that specific BMW is among the 3 greatest sedans ever made(and top 20 greatest vehicles regardless of class) in the history of the automobile. Thanks for posting this!

    • @spikespiegel2246
      @spikespiegel2246 4 місяці тому

      For real even a 523i is better than the Jag 🤭

    • @rahnastoRR
      @rahnastoRR Місяць тому +1

      Not really, the 4.2 in this Jag is Supercharged change the pulley get 2.5lbs more boost, and flash the ecu. That's next gen M5 performance right there. And it's so much more reliable.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      ​​​@@spikespiegel2246
      Don't talk sh1t, sh1thead.

  • @chrisniko9015
    @chrisniko9015 2 роки тому +23

    That m5 is still in use and has done only 20k miles 🤯

  • @IceMan-il7dx
    @IceMan-il7dx 2 роки тому +6

    I do love Tiff, great reviewer and a truly first class driver!

  • @ProperSendoff
    @ProperSendoff 2 роки тому +1

    They're both so clean

  • @agungpratomo3857
    @agungpratomo3857 2 роки тому +7

    proud owner of the BMW 528i E39 '97, 325i E46 '03 and 728i E38 '00
    been wrenching 'em all myself for the routine maintenance and leave the heavy works like engine and transmission overhaul to the shop
    all are running great and reach the 280K on the dash and gave smile on my face
    don't have the privilege to exotic engines of the M here where I live, so I just made my E39 and E46 the M body kits, quad pipes and sunroof to differentiate with regular E46/E39 here

  • @dwp2250
    @dwp2250 2 роки тому +9

    I had an S Type R back in the day and the supercharger never made a noise like that. It was totally reliable and covered circa 430k before the tin worm got a hold.

  • @SNYDAMAAN
    @SNYDAMAAN Рік тому +3

    Tiff is just a an engine and a gearbox in a human suit.

  • @smilebig1000
    @smilebig1000 2 роки тому +4

    Best investment i ever made M5

  • @datsoon9236
    @datsoon9236 2 роки тому +14

    I recently got to drive my friends e39 M5. Man was it fast and a huge joy to drive. I have an 89' 325i convertible and it felt surprisingly similiar to my car. Shifts felt identical, steering felt the same, clutch the same...😂
    It was just faster

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому +4

      All E39s with V8 engines have different type of steering rack which is objectively less infomative, than the one on inline-6 models, whats why it feels as slow and non-responsive as the one on your E30 (as long as you have an original steering rack, as many E30s steering racks are swapped for E36 ones, which is way more infomative).

    • @datsoon9236
      @datsoon9236 2 роки тому

      @@bahnstormero yeah, very true. I still have the original. Been thinking about swapping it with an e36 rack or one from a z3

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому +2

      @@datsoon9236 Z3 rack is an E36 rack, Z3s internal code is also E36. The whole front part is an E36 unit. The rear one is almost identical to e30, as the E36 compact.

    • @datsoon9236
      @datsoon9236 2 роки тому

      @@bahnstormero interesting....
      A lot of people say that there is a difference...

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому +2

      @@datsoon9236 maybe they differ only by the ratio, the z3 has to be e bit quicker - but all the e36 racks transfer way more response to the steering wheel, than the e30 standard streering

  • @mavetyan
    @mavetyan 2 роки тому +4

    If there has to be one ultimate saloon, that has to be M5. Amen.

  • @thedimreaper1684
    @thedimreaper1684 2 роки тому +4

    I had the M5, stunning car.

    • @theodor12
      @theodor12  2 роки тому

      100% envious😆
      What spec did you have?

    • @thedimreaper1684
      @thedimreaper1684 2 роки тому +1

      @@theodor12
      It was a metallic light blue, I burned a ring in my calf leaning into the boot on the tail pipe!!! ( don't wear shorts)
      Traded it in for the V10 one - huge mistake, it was horrible. Only good when being thrashed. Wish I had kept it ☹️

  • @andrewb325
    @andrewb325 Місяць тому

    Classic. Thanks for posting.

  • @r1bew42
    @r1bew42 2 роки тому +8

    I had a black 2000 X plate E39 M5 in 2004 for about a year. Best car I've ever had.

  • @Angelarea51
    @Angelarea51 Рік тому +2

    with one hand and blindfolded he would still drive better than me

  • @autorare5639
    @autorare5639 2 роки тому +6

    E39 so pretty !

  • @medium95
    @medium95 2 роки тому +3

    Tiff Needell should have learned how to use the J-gate of S-type R.
    The J-gate is( was) very convenient feature to select gear manually in automatic gearbox.
    The 2nd and 3rd gear selection in the J-gate is essential to achieve a performance ride properly.

    • @smokeymotorsport
      @smokeymotorsport 2 роки тому

      This was a different version to what you're thinking of I think - I drove a couple of XJRs in the straight 6 days, and a 6 litre XJS, all with 2nd and 3rd on the J-gate. The one in Tiff's car here has 2nd, 3rd and 4th on it though, which a couple of people have said to me was much less accurate for gear selection as there wasn't really a detent on 3rd so it was a bit vague

    • @medium95
      @medium95 2 роки тому

      ​@@smokeymotorsport It should take some time to get used to J-gate . I agree about the vague feel on the J-gate in some models. However, the gear position is not only sensed by gear knob's geographical location , but also by the rpm and the vehicle speed.
      If you want to select the the 2nd gear, just move the gear knob to the most front position and done. And for 3rd gear, you can use your fingers , with the your hand lay down on the J-gate module, draw the konb with fingers on the lower side of the knob.
      ua-cam.com/video/x3m4GvOPn5I/v-deo.html

  • @BmwFix
    @BmwFix 2 роки тому +5

    Jaguar S type looks much more modern than 5 series

    • @peterhammer6915
      @peterhammer6915 Рік тому +1

      what?? 😂😂😂 The Jag looks 20 years older than the M5, which has a timeless design.

    • @U.N.D.E.F.E.A.T.E.D.
      @U.N.D.E.F.E.A.T.E.D. 8 місяців тому

      ​@@peterhammer6915 What a billshit dude.. The Jag look like an immortal design example.. The M5.. Just a common sedan 😒

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      ​@@peterhammer6915
      Don't piss yourself, mate.

  • @dansan9858
    @dansan9858 2 роки тому +6

    You can add a supercharger to the m5 as well nowadays without irreversible changes. M5 has then about 550 ps.

  • @daveberg3911
    @daveberg3911 3 місяці тому +2

    If Jaguar would have put a limited slip differential in the S-Type R, and at least an option for a manual, this would have been much, much closer. I honestly do not understand why Jaguar went with an open differential.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      Gentleman's rocket ship with predictable manners is my guess. And while Tiff didn't mention it this car had the 'fake' LSD in the form of active TCS which essentially clamped the wheel spinning with the brake.

  • @sexshit1107
    @sexshit1107 2 роки тому +5

    the M5 is too common even though it's a great car.The S type R although not as good, is far rarer to see these days and its as fast as hell.

    • @bmw3-er
      @bmw3-er Рік тому +1

      The m5 is popular for a number of reasons.

    • @sexshit1107
      @sexshit1107 Рік тому

      @@bmw3-er true it's a great car and better than the Jag.Just lacks exclusivity much like the M3 of that generation.

    • @spikespiegel2246
      @spikespiegel2246 4 місяці тому

      It's rare because it's a pile of junk

    • @sexshit1107
      @sexshit1107 4 місяці тому +1

      @@spikespiegel2246 Don't talk nonsense.

  • @jt-hb8lh
    @jt-hb8lh Рік тому

    That wrc 3 soundtrack though 👌👌👌👌

  • @jorgepeixoto6162
    @jorgepeixoto6162 2 роки тому +4

    Bmw e39 um automóvel à séria 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 7 місяців тому +2

    Meanwhile I have a 23 year old s type 4.0 in the real world.
    Goes up hills just fine.
    Had it 5 years. Paid next to nothing for it and went through its MOT with no advisories.
    Type R road tax isn't very interesting.
    Never owned a BMW but not that I wouldn't.

  • @papa_pt
    @papa_pt 2 роки тому +16

    No limited slip. Sheesh Jaguar

    • @Krezo200
      @Krezo200 2 роки тому +4

      Thats just embarrassing - sorry

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 роки тому +2

      @@Krezo200 400hp rwd sedan you're gonna need it!!

    • @Krezo200
      @Krezo200 2 роки тому

      @@papa_pt absolutely

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      ​@@Krezo200
      How is 'embarrassing' you tool bag?

  • @jameskerherve7487
    @jameskerherve7487 2 роки тому +8

    I prefer the M5 naturally aspirated grunt over that mosquito buzzing supercharger whine. I own a 2006 CLS55 AMG Kompressor and the supercharged engine is more gruntty then whine. That buzzy whine would drive me nuts.

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому +1

      say the same about F150 Lightning and Cobra SVT.

    • @rahnastoRR
      @rahnastoRR Місяць тому

      Whine all day long i don't care

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      All these girls talking shit about cars they have no experience of.

  • @missa1969
    @missa1969 Рік тому

    This is a lot different than apples and oranges. More like a croquet mallet and a golf club comparison and recently comparing 2006-08 basic s type and 5 series , the Jaguar won the contest for a low mileage, low price ride for doing a coast to coast U.S.A. road trip. I’ve read that 750 2008 s type r autos were made and two local examples came up on Facebook Marketplace recently. Comparing these 2008 models, the BMW is from another planet of modernity. Not wanting to give more money to Saudi Arabia than required, the V6 Jag was sensible. I drove a 1988 BMW 325 ie for many years and still love our 2005 BMW 325 ci convertible but my 64 year old hard working back would not drive either from NY to LA. The most fun at speed I ever experienced was top speed in a brand spanking new 1966 Corvette. Can we see a M5 - Vette go at it? Kidding.😃

  • @p1fly
    @p1fly Рік тому +1

    Had an E39 m5 for 6 months around 10 years ago (LG52NYK) covered 10k hard miles in it, an absolute dream realised, those s type r's are very tempting at the moment a hell of a lot of car for the money

  • @bcraftin7846
    @bcraftin7846 2 роки тому +1

    Happy B Day Tiff 🎂

  • @Techoni
    @Techoni 3 місяці тому

    Tiff is actually a great driver!

  • @briandoan3837
    @briandoan3837 Рік тому +2

    Early year STR.

  • @samhianblackmoon
    @samhianblackmoon 2 роки тому +3

    Tiff crying over the whine of a supercharger!? …..😒smfh

  • @e.x.t.r.e.m.erestoration9540
    @e.x.t.r.e.m.erestoration9540 2 роки тому +2

    Great

  • @mrmark8603
    @mrmark8603 8 місяців тому

    I see that BMW has the rare-optional functioning mirrors and indicators. Very rare indeed.

  • @mercedessanbartolomejimene177

    M5 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 pedazo máquina para nosotros los más puristas del motor todos los M5 an marcado un antes y sobretodo un después sin duda este E39 le saca una sonrrisa a cualquier piloto en un circuito unas buenas manos y a jugar toda esa ecensia al volante se está perdiendo con todo lo nuevo una pena

  • @jihadjoe
    @jihadjoe 2 роки тому +4

    Nice. Was this old old Top Gear or Fifth Gear?

  • @FlyingHeadbutt100
    @FlyingHeadbutt100 6 місяців тому

    There's been two further iterations of the M5 since this one but I would still scour the Auto Trader for this one.
    It's 2023.

  • @jbelc
    @jbelc 2 роки тому +2

    What’s up with the orange peel on the e39’s trunk

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      That's got to be a janky repair!

  • @charliegoodwin6327
    @charliegoodwin6327 2 роки тому +12

    I’d take the s type r I’ve had a 99 540i m sport and an s type r and while I loved the bmw the s type will always have my heart

    • @theodor12
      @theodor12  2 роки тому +2

      There's a massive difference between a 540 and an M5 though... from 286hp to 400... and totally different suspension and brakes.

    • @jessecrichton2943
      @jessecrichton2943 9 місяців тому

      Yeah absolutely not lol. I’m guess yours was auto?

    • @porsche928s4
      @porsche928s4 8 місяців тому

      ​@@jessecrichton2943it was a manual with dinan upgrades I believe they only made manual 540s that year

  • @paulanderson7796
    @paulanderson7796 Рік тому +1

    I an a lowly 528i for a while. Very refined, sensible with fuel, and very reliable. I've not own a Jaguar. I think an M550d X-drive Touring with automatic transmission would suit me perfectly. Does BMW make one? Not that it matters since I am not in the market for a £60,000 plus car. I simply don't have the means to spend £60,000+ on a car.

    • @asatrv
      @asatrv 2 місяці тому

      Nothing lowly about one of the most beautiful running r6 engines ever built!

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 2 місяці тому

      @@asatrvM52TUB engine as a 2.8 was silky but slightly underpowered for my liking.

    • @asatrv
      @asatrv 2 місяці тому +1

      @@paulanderson7796 I am currently driving a M52 pre-TU. You are absolutely right it's just on the edge of being too slow, I'd prefer about 20% more power. But I love it. It just feels like an engine should. It loves the revs and sounds like it too. I've never seen another "sensible" engine giving that sense of sportiness. I'll be putting in sportier cams, headers and ITBs next year in hope for just the right amount of added power.

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 2 місяці тому

      @@asatrvI don't have the skills to do that kind of thing. I am currently driving a 2.2d Mazda 6. It's rapid and goes round bends like a racing car. Which is fine. But I don't need that kind of lateral grip. I am a road driver not a track driver.
      The E39 530i and 530d would have been pick of the pack if I was buying now. V8 engines don't appeal to me, but there's no dispute that the 540i was fast.

  • @royster3345
    @royster3345 2 роки тому +10

    That supercharger is not right, had the same engine and supercharger was not that evident.

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 2 роки тому +7

      I got to borrow a 4.2 XKR many years ago.
      Supercharger whine was just like this. It drove me crazy.
      I hated it; like being drilled in the head.

    • @dwp2250
      @dwp2250 2 роки тому +2

      I agree I had one and it never made a noise like that even after close on 430k miles

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 2 роки тому +2

      Yea it definitely sounds sick and so fucking annoying!

    • @dwp2250
      @dwp2250 2 роки тому

      Besides the S-Type R. Then a BMW e60 6 pot diesel. (Creaked like an old wooden boat and handled like a barge) I had a 5.0 litre XKR until this July and currently have an F-Type R neither of which have a supercharger whine.

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 2 роки тому +1

      @@dwp2250
      They got rid of the whine on the 5.0.
      The early 4.2 had it very loudly.

  • @PointNemo9
    @PointNemo9 2 роки тому +26

    The peak of BMW. The last good looking BMW ever made.

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th 2 роки тому +9

      They peaked during this era. E36, E31, E38 and E39. Everything went downhill from there.

    • @AGolfrGuy12
      @AGolfrGuy12 2 роки тому

      @@dariog36th not entirely* -edited

    • @kristskurens3870
      @kristskurens3870 2 роки тому +4

      @@AGolfrGuy12 100%, e60, e90, f series, X5 and X6's are all ugly as shit, and if we look at the new ones, they get even worse

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th 2 роки тому +3

      @@AGolfrGuy12 there’s a reason the E38 more sought after than a e65. Cause the E38 is still more likely to be on the road. Good luck finding a E65 that still runs fine.

    • @AGolfrGuy12
      @AGolfrGuy12 2 роки тому +1

      @@dariog36th agree e6x are the worst. e60/61 (v10) m5 is still legendary for its sound and top end output, not its daily driver reliability. Even the e36, 38, 39's had to be fitted with upgraded cooling systems to make them last. Again most would say their prime was in the e3x gen but they didn't just go to shit after that. People argue that the e46 m3csl (production) & m3gtr (factory racing model) is the best they ever made and was the follow up to the e36 m3 lw & gt.

  • @Adamasher8888
    @Adamasher8888 2 роки тому +4

    Tiff is a G

    • @medium95
      @medium95 2 роки тому

      G = Gravity or Great

  • @NZotyoka81
    @NZotyoka81 Рік тому

    Would choose the Jaaag over the bmw a 1000 times.

  • @lucamaini4492
    @lucamaini4492 2 роки тому +1

    WRC 3 for PS2 song

  • @ys_a1659
    @ys_a1659 2 роки тому +2

    4 Seconds! 🙀 That is huge!

  • @Boris-xx7dw
    @Boris-xx7dw Місяць тому

    Always the M5 , the best saloon ever built since they started building absolute crap after 2002 .

  • @doaSkid69
    @doaSkid69 2 роки тому

    Should of stuck a Holden in the mix

    • @theodor12
      @theodor12  2 роки тому

      sadly not available in the UK

    • @doaSkid69
      @doaSkid69 2 роки тому

      @@theodor12 yeah that's true...
      The vauxhall monaro vxr or the vxr8 ?

  • @peterdunne2756
    @peterdunne2756 2 роки тому +13

    M5 starts at 3.55

  • @xy3124
    @xy3124 2 роки тому +24

    5:36 and four million time better looking than the S-Type

  • @decepticon219
    @decepticon219 2 роки тому +1

    AMG left the chat

  • @MK-gj1co
    @MK-gj1co 6 місяців тому

    Jaguar of course

  • @reginaldwatkins8088
    @reginaldwatkins8088 5 місяців тому

    You can't be a Jag hater and get its true performance from it. Find a Jag Lover to drive the STR and Im sure we could get back a few seconds on that lap.

  • @buhrrito
    @buhrrito Рік тому

    @2:49

  • @richardautenzio8117
    @richardautenzio8117 2 місяці тому

    I don't like either because I am not a racing driver. I don't care for V8' because the straight 6 in my jag is just fine for me. The BMW is the more common fashioable car, whilst when it comes to Jags you either get them or you don't. And that's the older ones I am talking about. If I was buying a new one today, I would choose a Toyota Camry over these two names. "I'm over the Emperors new clothes".

  • @johnlukach4091
    @johnlukach4091 Рік тому

    The m5 looks like an aged pos but the S type R still looks beautiful

  • @Rns555
    @Rns555 8 місяців тому +1

    This ain't even a comparison 😂😂 M5 is pure motorsport. The jag is just a jag.

  • @mikay7771
    @mikay7771 2 роки тому +1

    The Jag sounds like an RC model car.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      No, no it doesn't. You bellend 😂

  • @nmarks
    @nmarks 2 роки тому

    Couldn't abide the look of the Jag.

  • @xhsheneehshsksbh3572
    @xhsheneehshsksbh3572 2 роки тому +2

    That noise in jag is so fucking annoying...

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      I bet you sound fucking annoying.

  • @alexisledesma7109
    @alexisledesma7109 2 роки тому +5

    Its 2021 and the M5 is now a legend and is still pretty significant. While the jaguar.....

    • @morgantaylor9271
      @morgantaylor9271 Рік тому +1

      These stypes are extremely rare in the r variant, massively overlooked and much more luxurious than the m5, also very reliable unlike the m5… I know which one I would be picking, a much better day to day car with the added benefit of 420bhp don’t forget derestricted the stype was capable of 191mph

  • @rd350ypvs
    @rd350ypvs 2 роки тому

    that was my jag, had it for 7 yrs and was ok after a new engine and supercharger lol, added some adamesh exhausts and it had a nice growl ua-cam.com/video/fT-0mYcdnvA/v-deo.html
    ua-cam.com/video/h590uwJNwBI/v-deo.html

  • @hotmasked1
    @hotmasked1 2 роки тому +11

    I still love the classy look of the jag regardless

    • @bpet6990
      @bpet6990 2 роки тому +6

      Ugly car the Jaagggg

    • @kzoomin
      @kzoomin 2 роки тому +3

      @@bpet6990 it's a rebadged ford Taurus.

    • @Emrestill
      @Emrestill 2 роки тому

      @@kzoomin no it is retro 1967 s-type..
      Jaguar just used Ford dew platform thats all..
      Lots of model used that platform Lincoln ls, stype, xf, thundebird, Mustang until 2005, fairlane ..
      Jaguar makes true thing used that platform cause they dont build nearly 30 years Mid size luxury executive car.. and if they make New platform that gets lots of money and time so they used trusted proven Ford platform.
      Ford has been developing the dew platform since granada... all brands use this like this share platforms systems..
      By the way jaguar uses dew platform Taurus uses İf third generation Dn5 platform if fourth D186 platform.. not same s-type platform .. They dont share same platform or other things..

    • @kzoomin
      @kzoomin 2 роки тому +1

      @@Emrestill Could be the x-type since that's fwd. I just remember back in the day. Whenever we had those s-types in the shop. That's what all the technicians would say. That it was basically a Ford and lacked the quality and originality of the brand. At the time Ford was also involved with Volvo and brought the brand down. Geely took over and Volvo made a comeback for sure.

    • @Emrestill
      @Emrestill 2 роки тому

      @@kzoomin volvo diffrent story..
      Jaguar different..
      x-type or s-type not Ford x-type some parts for example lower arms, and some Little walking parts Ford other all jaguar .. s-type too some walking parts just same Lincoln ls thats all.. And sure jaguar uses some engines for Ford that will be good too for example 2.0 dizel engine or 3.0 duratec engine but jaguar changes that engines too not take Same.. they they increased their power.. for example Ford uses that years duratec 3.0 engine Taurus , Scorpio 170hp jaguar takes that engine change someparts get 240hp..
      Jaguar and Ford married that makes today jaguar..
      jaguar make first time in their life d segment car thats now today how make xe models.. 30 year later make first time E segment.car .. thats how now make xf..
      Jaguar uses fords platforms that they make works easy low money and save time..
      Today jaguar makes own platforms it goes by developing the platform it got from ford ..
      İ like retro Cars they all have character i think..
      All brands uses share engines or platforms.. for example Mercedes uses some models Renault dci engine bmw uses some models psa diesel engines audi uses everything vw .. Lost of brands uses aspecially low pressure diesels psa or fiat engines..
      And todays executive brands material quality is very low .. they uses cheap plastic artificial parts ..

  • @atnstn
    @atnstn 2 роки тому +1

    The BMW won. Why am I not surprised.

  • @DoudD
    @DoudD 4 місяці тому +1

    Yawn. Totally predictable result. We've all seen it many times. You can go back and read road tests from decades ago and it's the same story. Comfort vs performance is always a compromise and when faced with a decision Jaguar always compromises towards softness/comfort. Without fail. I seriously doubt that the usual Jaguar buyer is concerned with how the car behaves on the *race track*....but a BMW buyer might be. I like both Jags and BMWs but they're very different and always will be. These race track comparisons of the two are silly, IMO. Love Tiff Needell, tho !

  • @bogdaniorgulescu1641
    @bogdaniorgulescu1641 2 роки тому +4

    Lmao the s type r

  • @singh2702
    @singh2702 2 роки тому +3

    Travesty comparing this Jag to that Legend.

  • @countjobula
    @countjobula 6 днів тому

    M5

  • @luigicornelio7510
    @luigicornelio7510 Рік тому

    That has to be the most obnoxious and gimmicky supercharger sounds on any production car.
    Also I was never really a fan of Tiff Needell in the past, I always found him too biased in his reviews and always focused on motorsports capabilities even when reviewing cars that were never meant to be sporty. But watching him after many years, his style has aged quite well. I mean, which car journalist wears a pink shirt and a leather jacket nowadays? And an amazing driver.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      Regarding the SC... WTF are you on about? ANYTHING with a supercharger will give you that characteristic whine.
      Now then, get in the sea.

    • @luigicornelio7510
      @luigicornelio7510 3 дні тому

      ​@skylined5534 no, not every supercharger sounds like that. Some superchargers barely have any whine at all. Some are louder than others, but the audio editing in this video may amplify it a bit too much.
      Also, relax bro lol

  • @KHANGALE.T
    @KHANGALE.T 10 днів тому

    Jaguar has nothing on the E39 BMW M5

  • @OtoGodfrey
    @OtoGodfrey 8 днів тому

    This Jag shares the DEW98 platform with Ford Thunderbird (2002-2005) Lincoln LS (2000-2006), it's essentially a Ford with grandma styled headlights and an overly angry cat symbol/logo. I call it the Roaring Kitty with gimp back legs (open diff). The shared Ford interior buttons/trim, the cheap plastic panels really screams 1998 USA car production. I'm surprised there are no 1998 Ford Taurus parts on it.

  • @Emrestill
    @Emrestill 2 роки тому +6

    Jaguar looks classy .. i prefer jag always..

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому +2

      @NTRSANDMAN Jaguars are superb in terms of quality and reliability, no one can say this about BMW by the way

    • @bahnstormero
      @bahnstormero 2 роки тому

      @NTRSANDMAN no I’m not. Check my channel - it's more than 10 years old and see the cars I own or had owned.

    • @veronpalani5525
      @veronpalani5525 2 роки тому +1

      @NTRSANDMAN not really... That's just bad discrimination... Actually the jag is as reliable as the bmw... Even better... The bmw and their Varnos problems whereas the jags only got... Wait no nothing

  • @robertperillo8738
    @robertperillo8738 2 роки тому +5

    The M5 is unrivaled? *laughs in E55 AMG*

    • @Jigsaw1988
      @Jigsaw1988 2 роки тому +4

      that one is from the generation after the E39. The E60 M5 would be the E55's rival.

    • @robertperillo8738
      @robertperillo8738 2 роки тому

      @NTRSANDMAN exactly

    • @robertperillo8738
      @robertperillo8738 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jigsaw1988 The E55 AMG came out prior to the M5...

    • @mikaeelbadat575
      @mikaeelbadat575 2 роки тому +6

      @NTRSANDMAN the e39 m5 came out as the fastest saloon in the world, the w210 E55 is 50hp slower. The W211 is faster but its rival is the E60 m5 v10... The v10 was faster.

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 2 роки тому

      @@mikaeelbadat575 It had the fastest 0-60, that's correct.
      But in real life, you wouldn't launch it that hard, because otherwise you'd fry the clutch.
      What's more the E39 M5 has some nasty maintaince related problems, so the E55 is the one you want to own.
      Btw, Mercedes introduce their cars a year earlier compared to BMW, so the W211 is both a E39 and E60 competitor.

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 Рік тому +1

    Love Jags but the S-Type was a massive miss. Looked awful at the time and all these years it looks even worse, the e39 is timeless. On a side not, Tiff is probably the best TV presentor when it comes to driving ability, he's the only reason i watched Fifth Gear

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      Bollocks. The S Type now is far more 'timeless' than the bimmer.

  • @stringer-ik1pc
    @stringer-ik1pc 28 днів тому

    BMW big money wasted,or black man's wheels, jaguar classy 👍

  • @desmondelijah2128
    @desmondelijah2128 2 роки тому

    G. C v

  • @dannymagana97
    @dannymagana97 2 роки тому +2

    Jag is hideous aff

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 3 дні тому

      No mate, that's your mum's mirror.

  • @raitshots
    @raitshots 2 роки тому +5

    M57D30 3.0 Diesel economy and fast variant drive sedan 530 3.0 bmw e39. Drive manual gear very good drive control Gran turismo test drive. Easy. Bad variant bmw e39 autematic gear..... Not good.... Travel Tourism yes but not fast variant drive

  • @datsoon9236
    @datsoon9236 2 роки тому +2

    Jaguar is boring