Jimmy’s advanced stats are still excellent, it’s crazy to me that people keep saying he’s overrated or washed or whatever. Dude is 3rd in ws/48, right between jokic and kat
I get that Houston on paper has the most to offer Miami for Jimmy, but for the love of God, I'm tired of the NBA media linking him here. Just cut that shit out man, why does Houston have to do Jimmy a favor because we have assets? Trading Whitmore, Reed Sheppard, Jabari Smith, or even any of our first round picks for a 35 year old butler that won't improve our horrendous floor spacing is a move that garbage organizations make. The rockets already have a great locker room culture, and I don't think Butler will add much on top of that, and in fact he runs the risk of honestly fucking it up if he goes the egotistical route like Julius Randle if he feels he's not a focal point of the team gameplan or whatever reason. Like this is just annoying at this point... let Houston develop and make a move going into the off-season when JG's contract is tradable if they decide to. We will not be more of a threat to any of the Major teams in the west with Butler, so just don't bother. The only in season move that makes some sense with the Rockets timeline as of right now is a De'Aaron Fox trade, because at least Fox is 27 and is a overall better scorer at this point then JB. (Im not mad at you btw SRO, I'm just annoyed in general that there's some narrative that both the front office or fans of Houston want Jimmy here, because most don't)
As a Houstonian I agree wholeheartedly and I rock with Jimmy but it would be a bone head move. Age and injuries are making an impact on him. The Clippers could use Jimmy but he'll have to mesh with Harden.
Atlanta makes the most sense, you don’t have your picks for the next 2-3 years, you need a player that can give you those 2-3 years to compete along with trae or just blow it up and let trae go and restart
Hawks have a 25.266 Mil Trade Exception (expires 7/7/25), they should definitely make a move at the Deadline or earlier - Clint Capela 22.265 mil +? for Butler -47+mil pretty close to Butlers 48.8mil - Also Brooklyn having a maxed $ slot in the summer lowers Butlers value on top of him basically being an Expiring contract. Miami probably moves Capela to a 3rd team or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if the return for Jimmy is underwhelming. It may be contracts + mid young player + a second or two. He's 35 and in a contract year (Wants a new one, has an option.) I don't see a world where the Heat would win a trade with Jimmy in it.
finally someone saying that jimmy isn’t a good trade for the warriors. it just doesn’t make sense. andrew wiggins is just the same player but 6 years younger and with a half less expensive contract
The only reason stopping that is that the warriors might not even make the playoffs if they got jimmy, if they were top 4 or sm they could grab him and watch playoff jimmy with steph lol
I agree with most of your comments. $48 million is hard for most teams to find room for. He is definitely not washed up but he is no longer the superstar he once was. Injuries have seen to that. I would take a chance if I wasn't expecting him to be the #1 on my team and I didn't have to clean out my safe to get him. "Winning" Playoff experience is so valuable. I'm a Raptor fan. I know this to be true.
Jimmy deserved a chance. He dragged subpar teams to the finals more than once. He should’ve requested a trade when they failed to get Damian Lillard. I’m a Celtics fan but I respect Jimmy.
He has been requesting help for about 3 seasons. What people don’t understand is that pat brought this on himself. People forget the way he did bron, and wade. Word been put out, and this is why no top free agents wants to go to Miami. Miami isn’t getting any free agents that can move the needle until Riley is gone. Even then it may be too late
I used to be on the jimmy butler fan train. But damn he’s done nothing lately that makes me think he isn’t the problem in a lot of places. I love his work ethic, his story is amazing, he’s clearly worked his ass off. But he’s become such a diva with such low tier production for his price tag and it’s disappointing
If I'm Miami I like the idea of taking on VanVleet's expiring contract and maybe getting back Cam Whitmore and a few firsts. Not sure if the Rockets love that idea, but it seems like they weren't going to keep Fred anyway and don't really need to extend Jimmy if the season goes poorly.
Has no one ever sat Jimmy down and told him that he’s too old to be demanding a long term max contract. No team with him at that big a number will ever come close to winning.
Please keep him AWAY from San Antonio. Talented player but he’s been a problem everywhere he’s gone, when things don’t go his way he melts down. Overpaid, aging, and delusional. We’re good.
Another reason why the PHX trade cannot work based on what I understand is the fact that MIA is over the first apron, and as a result , they cannot go over 100% in salary matching , and since Beal earns roughly 5% more , the trade cannot go ahead even if he would "sign off" on it.And even if thats not an issue , another problem for MIA would be that the no trade clause would be traded with Beal to MIA , so they would be stuck with him and its not like PHX has any draft assets worth talking about that could entice MIA. BRK makes little sense imo as they are already better then they probably want to be and you can forget about drafting anyone good if you get like pick 9 or 10 as even "regular season" Jimmy gets you a few wins. As for HOU , it would probably be a one shot as Jimmy's timeline doesnt match that of the rest of the team , so while I do agree that FVV can be traded due to him being an expiring contract (and having horrid shooting splits this season) , the only thing interesting for MiA would indeed be a high draft pick.
Do not sleep on Memphis getting involved. They can make the trade without giving up any of their core or young stars, and can offer picks w/o it handicapping their future. They need to consolidate their roster anyway, so if it doesn't work out they're still in a great place.
@cavici6931 you have to consider that Miami is not going to get much back in return for Jimmy Butler because of his "attitude", age & contract. I mean, Miami only gove up a first and 3 "role players" to get Butler before he signed his max contract. Expecting to get more than 3 role players and a first would be ridiculous at this stage of the season.
@@michaelfredgren1342 I believe Jimmy Butler was a sign & trade so it wasn’t about the return for Philadelphia but rather get what they can. You are a Grizzlies fan and obviously biased here but I’m sure if a young player from another team was available this package from Memphis wouldn’t be enough
Of those 4, Warriors might be the ones to make the trade but Rockets are the ones who could do it without giving up big assets. Still doesn't fix their issues as a team. Probably will be a different team actually making the deal
As a Houston fan I was against this idea until it was only FVV and a non-Phoenix first rounder. Once that’s the plan, it just seems obvious that with our depth we can afford his load management “needs” and we get a special kind of leader for the playoffs. Plus, we’re fine with him leaving if he requires a max extension he doesn’t deserve. Only thing is I want Fox or Booker more..🤔
anyone else think that once he's traded and comfortable he's going to explode for 1 or 2 more seasons he should go to a team that is on its final finals run like golden state or a team that needs that one more piece like dallas
I kinda get both sides. Jimmy has been exceptional in the playoffs for the Heat numerous times and feels like he should be rewarded for that. Pat however doesn't want to risk his teams future financially on extending someone at the end of their career and who has a recent injury history. Neither is wrong
I wouldn’t trade him and I would just let him make a decision on the player option. He says he’s unhappy so he’ll most likely decline it. That benefits the Heat. My only hesitancy is he clearly is sabotaging the team by not giving full effort so that might rub off on the team.
Can’t say we are doing the wrong thing in this case. Maybe some deal materializes now that stuff is coming out in the public but we can’t hamper the team to keep Jimmy at this point. It’s gonna suck to watch him go but eh 🤷🏾♂️
50 mil for 4 months of Jimmy and you need to match salary ??? there's just the Suns that can do this trade (and with Beal in return for miami, so nothing gonna happen)
Jimmy doesn't have any leverage. Buddy doesn't take the regular season seriously, he is 35, hasn't played 65 games in a season since Chi/Min, he wears out his welcome everywhere, and makes too much money for any good team to trade for without giving up good value. Buddy better play his a$$ off in Miami to increase his value for the off season.
Houston makes little sense imo. Like you said, you're at the top of the West, so why risk shaking things up for marginal improvement? Why introduce a "toxic" personality into a group of young guys who need to continue to mature? Why lock yourself into paying Butler a massive contract to get him to stay when you have young talent that will need to be extended/resigned? It makes very little sense.
you’d trade dillon brooks for him??? absolutely not. dillon brooks is very valuable and is 7 years younger and honestly having a better season as a 2 way player. the rockets would crumble without him- trust me you need a player like that to piss everyone off. keep dillon, trade picks and jeasean tate and aaron holiday.
As a basketball romantic I feel hes gonna end joining his daddy's team. He's gonna end up in Charlotte with the hometown hero Steph Curry somehow (whose daddy also played there and the warriors might shop in the off-season). Their front office is crazy enough to tear down their young core for two players. It would be stupidly hilarious if they went for the bait 🪤
The nuggets, twolves, bucks, and maybe the warriors are the 4 teams that should be desperate enough to trade at least for a year or 2 of good butler. Those are the teams who expected to be contenders but made poor roster decisions that put them much lower level. Rockets idk what they are doing but they really need to pick a direction. Sac probably won't move from fox for a geezer like butler. And the heat wouldn't just trade butler for trash
There's one trade that makes sense and it's the Nuggets. Get off that horrific MPJ contract, I think Jimmy would fit well there and he would be an upgrade over MPJ. The Heat get a still young player in MPJ plus a few other assets. The Rockets don't make much sense to me, they are building a culture of young players in Houston and Jimmy doesn't fit the timeline at all. He isn't helping them win a title within the next couple years. I wouldn't want anything to do with Jimmy if I'm the Rockets.
I Don't Think Jimmy Is Washed Or Regressing, He Probably Just Doesn't Want To Play For Miami Anymore Which Is Understandable, Honestly I Think A Good Fit For Him Would Be The Rockets, Fred VanVleet Plus Some 1st Rounders For Jimmy
Calling sros a casual is an even crazier take. Who knows if Jimmy can still turn it on later in the season like he has before, we’ve seen quicker declines happen and it’s hard to gauge when Jimmy isn’t giving 100%
jims numbers are misleading. in miami hes just not that #1 option anymore im shocked he has the numbers he does. hes a top 3 player on any team in the league
i think houston trading for an aging jimmy butler would be a waste of assets and their young talent, go for a #1 scoring option like book or a pg like fox
bro the spurs i don’t necessarily know the logistics as far as making money match but jimmy making 48 m’s this season and he will opt into the player option next year if the spurs can pull this off they have a chance to make it to like the second round lol. Worst comes to worst jimmy comes to the team and regresses. That will still be a plus to free up 55 m’s in cap for the 2026 offseason when wemby is due for his extension on his rookie contract
The one thing you need to know about Jimmy Butler is that it always ends badly with Jimmy Butler. Since Rodman, the Spurs have avoided headaches like Butler. I expect that to continue.
Nah we good that's way too much money for Jimmy and we'd have to give up actual depth and possibly young players. The team is just fine and that's with the team being fully healthy for only 6 and a half games
Being a rockets fan, I would love Jimmy to come home but I’d rather us go for KD or D fox, Jimmy would make us worse considering what we’d have to give up. Wouldn’t mind FVV leaving though.
If you’re golden state and you up kuminga klays trade exception wiggins and gp2 that makes the salary work WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE you make steph and drymond happy because it’s jimmy butler and they know what his about and you give up NO FIRST ROUND PICKS which is great cause it’s a old team but you go all in making steph happy and not give up any picks
Can’t count the past few games against Jimmy, he’s checked out. Jimmy is still Jimmy. He’s just done with Pat Riley. That relationship is unrepairable. Jimmy lost his dad and what did Pat Riley do? Tell him to stfu and play basketball. Pat’s ego is second to none. Ran Bron out, LET FLASH GO, and now Jimmy. All this coming from a heat fan.
I totally agree, I think Houston is the best fit for all parties involved ( jimmy, Miami and Houston) but if I were Houston I don’t think I’d trade fvv quite yet, unless they had to for salary reasons. I think I’d rather do like cam whitemore Steven Adams, Tate and a pick or two. Cam hasn’t been as good as he was last year and yeah it could be just a sophomore slump type of thing but I just don’t think he’s in Imes long term plans, especially after drafting reed. Also, I think a jimmy trade to phoenix makes since, at least on phoenixs side. Miami, yeah I wouldn’t want a 31/32 year old Brad Beal making 50 mil for 3 years, since Miami is a big market that could still attract free agents. But for phoenix, I loveee this fit. Phoenix needs defense desperately and ik jimmy isn’t what he once was defensively but he’d really help out on that front. W vid Matt as always, looking forward to 2025 bangers
@@joeyollar2781 Cam Whitmore is way higher upside than Reed Sheppard I’m sorry it needs to be said… valuing Reed over Cam at this point is just absurd to me… Cam has been good since coming back from G league and he’s same age as Reed except way bigger and a freak athlete he could have Jaylen Brown type of upside.. I like Reed but he’s 6’1 and having a terrible rookie year ppl have always been way over estimating his upside that’s why I had him 8th when most ppl had him top 4
@ yeahh, I’ve heard that. But reed also doesn’t get much playing time so I think with more time and development he can be really good. But the only reason why I’d say they’d be okay probably giving up cam is because, although he’s been a lot better, Dillon brooks has been really good for Houston and ik he’s not the long term guy but I just don’t think cam will get the playing time he needs in Houston, especially with Jabari tari and amen playing a lot
He’s averaging less than Austin Reaves in all categories with a team with a better record 😂 Heat should just send him home. They let Wade walk, they’re not gonna overpay him… and they say he’s a better Heat than LeBron!🤣
I think suns is the best swap. They're already all in and have a losing record. I'm sure beal wants a do over. Make it done. Throw in a pick to sweeten the pot
SROS as a warriors I don’t want Jimmy at all. Because why I want to be in second apron hell. And paying Jimmy over 50 million dollars per year. We need a stretch 5. And more defensive players at the trade deadline. But is my opinion.
I cannot see rockets move any real players like Cam, Bari or Reed. Like Maybe a pick or 2 and then using contracts like Steven Adams, Jeff Green, Jock Landale, Jae'Sean Tate, and Aaron Holiday. Butler is too old and expensive
The only place he can i really see him going, Warriors .. Maves & Rockets said nah already and then the Lakers lol, yeah, right If I was Heat I would be an azz and trade him to Pels for BI.
Butler is going nowhere, THERE'S NO TRADE RIGHT NOW WORTH IT... sit down and quiet up and ball or Riley is going to bench his butt till he can move him in June.... Barkley called him out in his BS, joy = 💰 he wants his sheckles and Riles said NOPE... he's too expensive with no upside.
Right now Heat don’t have that much leverage as you think! They should have traded him long time ago. I don’t know if he would go for more picks because of his age. If Suns get him idk what it would do. He’s injury prone as much as KD🫣
GSW: Not worth it for them. Jimmy doesn't move the needle enough to give up on better trades down the line. PHX: Yeah, as you've said, the Beal contract is horrible. No way Miami is gonna take that. Remember that Beal also has a NTC. HOU: They have no spacing right now, it would be worse with Jimmy. They need a better secondary ball handler and/or a stretch big, not a fading SF. The problem is: What is Jimmy actually worth rn? 1 first and 1-2 players for salary? A bunch of bums for the same reason? And who is willing to give him the extension he wants? Only bad franchises would do that, e.g. the Pelicans, Wizards or Hornets. But they're all rebuilding, Jimmy is not a player you'd want during a rebuild. I guess he'll get traded to a random semi-contender who's desperate enough. Funniest timeline: Timberwolves.
Jimmy’s agent is looking more and more like a goofball 😂
Pray 4 him.
Yeah he crashed out so hard over twitter bro. What a loser
That’s what happens when u try to go band4band against shams
No clue why he did all that when he personally knows Jimmy unless Jimmy randomly now decided he wanted to get traded after so many rumors
Jimmy’s advanced stats are still excellent, it’s crazy to me that people keep saying he’s overrated or washed or whatever. Dude is 3rd in ws/48, right between jokic and kat
Yep, he's just cruising until he gets traded.
Nobody is talking about kat
@@JaKingScomezyou must be completely checked out this season, why even say anything
@@rob.parsnips nah its the truth. Kat hasn’t been in the conversation. Wemby has more coverage of
@@misterkhayachina can have the emo bum
I get that Houston on paper has the most to offer Miami for Jimmy, but for the love of God, I'm tired of the NBA media linking him here. Just cut that shit out man, why does Houston have to do Jimmy a favor because we have assets?
Trading Whitmore, Reed Sheppard, Jabari Smith, or even any of our first round picks for a 35 year old butler that won't improve our horrendous floor spacing is a move that garbage organizations make. The rockets already have a great locker room culture, and I don't think Butler will add much on top of that, and in fact he runs the risk of honestly fucking it up if he goes the egotistical route like Julius Randle if he feels he's not a focal point of the team gameplan or whatever reason.
Like this is just annoying at this point... let Houston develop and make a move going into the off-season when JG's contract is tradable if they decide to. We will not be more of a threat to any of the Major teams in the west with Butler, so just don't bother. The only in season move that makes some sense with the Rockets timeline as of right now is a De'Aaron Fox trade, because at least Fox is 27 and is a overall better scorer at this point then JB.
(Im not mad at you btw SRO, I'm just annoyed in general that there's some narrative that both the front office or fans of Houston want Jimmy here, because most don't)
As a Houstonian I agree wholeheartedly and I rock with Jimmy but it would be a bone head move. Age and injuries are making an impact on him. The Clippers could use Jimmy but he'll have to mesh with Harden.
Lol as a heat fan i hope we trade him there and take some of your assets😭🙏🙏🙏😊
@@MentalStillnessthis is also the third team he’s burning bridges publicly on the way out. We don’t want or need a James harden part 2.
There’s also jimmy attitude who can effect young players
Maybe he needs to care about regular season in order to enjoy basketball
ouch
Barkley was right: joy is code for money.
Wrong
Jimmy is going to a team nobody else thought of = Hawk's
As a hawks fan I beg we don't
Atlanta makes the most sense, you don’t have your picks for the next 2-3 years, you need a player that can give you those 2-3 years to compete along with trae or just blow it up and let trae go and restart
I can see it but what would they give up? i don’t think they’d be willing to move jalen johnson
probably deandre hunter and bogdonavic or something like that
Hawks have a 25.266 Mil Trade Exception (expires 7/7/25), they should definitely make a move at the Deadline or earlier -
Clint Capela 22.265 mil +? for Butler -47+mil pretty close to Butlers 48.8mil -
Also Brooklyn having a maxed $ slot in the summer lowers Butlers value on top of him basically being an Expiring contract.
Miami probably moves Capela to a 3rd team or not.
Butler has quit on the heat
Nah Pat quit on Jimmy
The quote from Pat Riley is him talking about Jimmy's comments abt the Boston playoff series last year, not about his extension lmao
Yea that’s on me. Cut up the wrong clip, I apologize about that
I wouldn't be surprised if the return for Jimmy is underwhelming. It may be contracts + mid young player + a second or two. He's 35 and in a contract year (Wants a new one, has an option.) I don't see a world where the Heat would win a trade with Jimmy in it.
finally someone saying that jimmy isn’t a good trade for the warriors. it just doesn’t make sense. andrew wiggins is just the same player but 6 years younger and with a half less expensive contract
The only reason stopping that is that the warriors might not even make the playoffs if they got jimmy, if they were top 4 or sm they could grab him and watch playoff jimmy with steph lol
I agree with most of your comments. $48 million is hard for most teams to find room for. He is definitely not washed up but he is no longer the superstar he once was. Injuries have seen to that. I would take a chance if I wasn't expecting him to be the #1 on my team and I didn't have to clean out my safe to get him. "Winning" Playoff experience is so valuable. I'm a Raptor fan. I know this to be true.
Jimmy deserved a chance. He dragged subpar teams to the finals more than once. He should’ve requested a trade when they failed to get Damian Lillard. I’m a Celtics fan but I respect Jimmy.
"More than once"....so twice? 😅
@@HitOrMiss5150 sleepy Riley is all pride no work
He has been requesting help for about 3 seasons. What people don’t understand is that pat brought this on himself. People forget the way he did bron, and wade. Word been put out, and this is why no top free agents wants to go to Miami. Miami isn’t getting any free agents that can move the needle until Riley is gone. Even then it may be too late
@@TallJai Old Pat is all pride right now, no work.
@@HitOrMiss5150Well yeah. Two is more than one right?
as a Rockets fan I do not want Jimmy at all and I'm for sure not trading Dillon for him that would be awful
jimmy clears that bum and its not close
You should want to get of Green's contract and trading for Jimmy is a great way to do it
@@NamerGaminggreen is on a great contract rn the trade we want is Fred
@@NamerGaming Can't trade Green until the offseason because he just signed an extension.
Pat Riley is stubborn he is gonna ask you guys for amen Thompson and tari Eason and Dillon brooks and 4 first round picks 🤣
I used to be on the jimmy butler fan train. But damn he’s done nothing lately that makes me think he isn’t the problem in a lot of places. I love his work ethic, his story is amazing, he’s clearly worked his ass off. But he’s become such a diva with such low tier production for his price tag and it’s disappointing
If I'm Miami I like the idea of taking on VanVleet's expiring contract and maybe getting back Cam Whitmore and a few firsts. Not sure if the Rockets love that idea, but it seems like they weren't going to keep Fred anyway and don't really need to extend Jimmy if the season goes poorly.
Has no one ever sat Jimmy down and told him that he’s too old to be demanding a long term max contract. No team with him at that big a number will ever come close to winning.
Please keep him AWAY from San Antonio. Talented player but he’s been a problem everywhere he’s gone, when things don’t go his way he melts down. Overpaid, aging, and delusional. We’re good.
Jimmy would never want to be there in the first place. I think nba fans would hate to see his talent get wasted in San Antonio
The NBA script gave the Spurs Wemby and now yall don’t know how to act 😂
No we’re not good we are mid actually
@@CESAR154__ Butler was suspended 7 games for conduct detrimental today. I don’t care what talent you believe he is, he’s a problem, period.
Well said.
With the 2nd apron paying 52 million a year to an older player is a major anchor to most teams.
Another reason why the PHX trade cannot work based on what I understand is the fact that MIA is over the first apron, and as a result , they cannot go over 100% in salary matching , and since Beal earns roughly 5% more , the trade cannot go ahead even if he would "sign off" on it.And even if thats not an issue , another problem for MIA would be that the no trade clause would be traded with Beal to MIA , so they would be stuck with him and its not like PHX has any draft assets worth talking about that could entice MIA. BRK makes little sense imo as they are already better then they probably want to be and you can forget about drafting anyone good if you get like pick 9 or 10 as even "regular season" Jimmy gets you a few wins. As for HOU , it would probably be a one shot as Jimmy's timeline doesnt match that of the rest of the team , so while I do agree that FVV can be traded due to him being an expiring contract (and having horrid shooting splits this season) , the only thing interesting for MiA would indeed be a high draft pick.
Beale has a no trade clause, and said he is only lifting for top contending teams, which Miami isn’t 1 of them
don't you ever in your life say Andrew wiggins is comparable to Jimmy buckets
Yeah. Wiggins is better lol.
Do not sleep on Memphis getting involved. They can make the trade without giving up any of their core or young stars, and can offer picks w/o it handicapping their future. They need to consolidate their roster anyway, so if it doesn't work out they're still in a great place.
Make a video on Dlo to the Nets
Is there a reason that Memphis is not being considered??? Seems like a perfect match if Jimmy is willing to take a supporting cast role.
no money, Ja Desmond Bane and JJJ are all making a lot of money so I’d think one them has to be included
@@cavici6931actually Smart+Clarke+Kennard will be enough salary to send to Miami.
@@michaelfredgren1342 you have to consider if Miami is willing to accept that
@cavici6931 you have to consider that Miami is not going to get much back in return for Jimmy Butler because of his "attitude", age & contract. I mean, Miami only gove up a first and 3 "role players" to get Butler before he signed his max contract. Expecting to get more than 3 role players and a first would be ridiculous at this stage of the season.
@@michaelfredgren1342 I believe Jimmy Butler was a sign & trade so it wasn’t about the return for Philadelphia but rather get what they can. You are a Grizzlies fan and obviously biased here but I’m sure if a young player from another team was available this package from Memphis wouldn’t be enough
Video starts: "can you get that love back here?", "probably not".
"Jimmy Butler says there's NO CHANCE....."
Of those 4, Warriors might be the ones to make the trade but Rockets are the ones who could do it without giving up big assets. Still doesn't fix their issues as a team. Probably will be a different team actually making the deal
As a Houston fan I was against this idea until it was only FVV and a non-Phoenix first rounder. Once that’s the plan, it just seems obvious that with our depth we can afford his load management “needs” and we get a special kind of leader for the playoffs. Plus, we’re fine with him leaving if he requires a max extension he doesn’t deserve. Only thing is I want Fox or Booker more..🤔
anyone else think that once he's traded and comfortable he's going to explode for 1 or 2 more seasons he should go to a team that is on its final finals run like golden state or a team that needs that one more piece like dallas
I have a suspicion that the low field goal attempts per game is linked to his unhappiness with the franchise.
you have absolutely no idea how good jimmy is this season but go off
Well this situation just got more spicy....
Honestly if his trade value is as low as people think it is then I can see a lot of teams in the market for him.
Jimmy has never really cared about the regular season, but this is also probably his way of saying I'm done.
Bradley Beale isn’t going anywhere. He has a no trade clause, and he said he would only do it for a contender. Miami isn’t a contender
I kinda get both sides. Jimmy has been exceptional in the playoffs for the Heat numerous times and feels like he should be rewarded for that. Pat however doesn't want to risk his teams future financially on extending someone at the end of their career and who has a recent injury history. Neither is wrong
I wouldn’t trade him and I would just let him make a decision on the player option. He says he’s unhappy so he’ll most likely decline it. That benefits the Heat. My only hesitancy is he clearly is sabotaging the team by not giving full effort so that might rub off on the team.
I don’t think there is a way to trade for him under these new rules. I’ve seen people do the exercise and it’s very hard to make the money work
Butler and his agent are complete hypocrites! So, there was no trade talks, huh? Whatever, man 👎
Pat Riley was right, btw 👍
Warriors
Clippers
For sure
Can’t say we are doing the wrong thing in this case. Maybe some deal materializes now that stuff is coming out in the public but we can’t hamper the team to keep Jimmy at this point. It’s gonna suck to watch him go but eh 🤷🏾♂️
Daily question who do you think will trade for jimmy
Fun trades will be to Phoenix for Beal,to Denver for Murray or to Chicago for Lavine
What about San Antonio I think him and wemby would be good mentoring him plus giving away a 1st round pick and kelden Johnson would be good
emo boy don’t got the mindset to play wit a goat like wemby
50 mil for 4 months of Jimmy and you need to match salary ??? there's just the Suns that can do this trade (and with Beal in return for miami, so nothing gonna happen)
Jimmy doesn't have any leverage. Buddy doesn't take the regular season seriously, he is 35, hasn't played 65 games in a season since Chi/Min, he wears out his welcome everywhere, and makes too much money for any good team to trade for without giving up good value. Buddy better play his a$$ off in Miami to increase his value for the off season.
Houston makes little sense imo. Like you said, you're at the top of the West, so why risk shaking things up for marginal improvement? Why introduce a "toxic" personality into a group of young guys who need to continue to mature? Why lock yourself into paying Butler a massive contract to get him to stay when you have young talent that will need to be extended/resigned? It makes very little sense.
As a rockets fan ill give Dillon expiring contracts and 2 future first round picks nothing more than that for jimmy
Fred,green,jimmy,amen,sengun
you’d trade dillon brooks for him??? absolutely not. dillon brooks is very valuable and is 7 years younger and honestly having a better season as a 2 way player. the rockets would crumble without him- trust me you need a player like that to piss everyone off. keep dillon, trade picks and jeasean tate and aaron holiday.
Jimmy is either going to be a Warrior or Nugget.
As a basketball romantic I feel hes gonna end joining his daddy's team. He's gonna end up in Charlotte with the hometown hero Steph Curry somehow (whose daddy also played there and the warriors might shop in the off-season). Their front office is crazy enough to tear down their young core for two players. It would be stupidly hilarious if they went for the bait 🪤
The nuggets, twolves, bucks, and maybe the warriors are the 4 teams that should be desperate enough to trade at least for a year or 2 of good butler. Those are the teams who expected to be contenders but made poor roster decisions that put them much lower level. Rockets idk what they are doing but they really need to pick a direction. Sac probably won't move from fox for a geezer like butler. And the heat wouldn't just trade butler for trash
Jimmy should go to a team with salary cap instead of the suns or mavs. They both don’t have a lot or no salary cap, and 50M a year is crazy
Do you think Timberwolves could make a move for him? They can get there salary wise with a few players but it would also hurt the depth of the team
Minnesota can't agregat salaries, so there's zero chance of getting Jimmy (over second apron rule)
Beal 4 Buttler
Butler loves burning bridges
He hasn’t been the same since his pops passed
There's one trade that makes sense and it's the Nuggets. Get off that horrific MPJ contract, I think Jimmy would fit well there and he would be an upgrade over MPJ. The Heat get a still young player in MPJ plus a few other assets. The Rockets don't make much sense to me, they are building a culture of young players in Houston and Jimmy doesn't fit the timeline at all. He isn't helping them win a title within the next couple years. I wouldn't want anything to do with Jimmy if I'm the Rockets.
denver can’t get there $ wise
MPJ doesn’t make enough. They really can’t make the money work. They also need more spacing, not less. Cam Johnson fits their needs way better.
They can trade mpj and a few other players to get there. I've seen 4 player mocks with 2nds included and it's very possible.
Pat Riley hasnt gotten any help for miami since dame trade fell through
I Don't Think Jimmy Is Washed Or Regressing, He Probably Just Doesn't Want To Play For Miami Anymore Which Is Understandable, Honestly I Think A Good Fit For Him Would Be The Rockets, Fred VanVleet Plus Some 1st Rounders For Jimmy
just wondering why do you put a capital on every word dude ?
Jimmy is a great player, but it's becoming evident with his track record, that he might be a big part of the problem.
Detroit could also be an option with a trade with Tobias Harris and a first
Miami fans say he can still lock Tatum up... let's see a top contender get Butler
Jimmy Butler worse than Wiggins and saying he doesn’t move the needle for a team to win it all is crazy is a casual take.
Calling sros a casual is an even crazier take. Who knows if Jimmy can still turn it on later in the season like he has before, we’ve seen quicker declines happen and it’s hard to gauge when Jimmy isn’t giving 100%
@ I didn’t call him a casual. I called his take casual.
Imagine Jimmy in Dallas playing with Kyrie and Luka and pushing Klay
Jimmy would hate playing with Luka
jims numbers are misleading. in miami hes just not that #1 option anymore im shocked he has the numbers he does. hes a top 3 player on any team in the league
i think houston trading for an aging jimmy butler would be a waste of assets and their young talent, go for a #1 scoring option like book or a pg like fox
Can’t wait to see him ruin another team with his fake superstar persona. Bro isn’t even top 30 anymore
jason tatum burner account welcome to youtube
how did it feel to get dogwalked by jimmy butler and caleb fu..in martin of all people
Where did you get the nba score ticker behind you shii fire
Why would Pat the Heat or anyone care about Jimmy whining when he’s won zero championships. Why is Pat getting any blowback
I pray that my Spurs front office is not dumb enough to trade for Jimmy
bro the spurs i don’t necessarily know the logistics as far as making money match but jimmy making 48 m’s this season and he will opt into the player option next year if the spurs can pull this off they have a chance to make it to like the second round lol. Worst comes to worst jimmy comes to the team and regresses. That will still be a plus to free up 55 m’s in cap for the 2026 offseason when wemby is due for his extension on his rookie contract
The one thing you need to know about Jimmy Butler is that it always ends badly with Jimmy Butler. Since Rodman, the Spurs have avoided headaches like Butler. I expect that to continue.
Nah we good that's way too much money for Jimmy and we'd have to give up actual depth and possibly young players. The team is just fine and that's with the team being fully healthy for only 6 and a half games
Bradley Beal would have to agree to the trade u should of talked about that
What is that NBA Scoreboard Device behind you? Thank you!!
Being a rockets fan, I would love Jimmy to come home but I’d rather us go for KD or D fox, Jimmy would make us worse considering what we’d have to give up. Wouldn’t mind FVV leaving though.
If you’re golden state and you up kuminga klays trade exception wiggins and gp2 that makes the salary work WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE you make steph and drymond happy because it’s jimmy butler and they know what his about and you give up NO FIRST ROUND PICKS which is great cause it’s a old team but you go all in making steph happy and not give up any picks
I think Brooks will be amazing fit to Miami Heat.
Lmao and people were siding with jimmys agent
as a nets fan why would i want old ass jimmy for 50 million a year?
Can’t count the past few games against Jimmy, he’s checked out. Jimmy is still Jimmy. He’s just done with Pat Riley. That relationship is unrepairable. Jimmy lost his dad and what did Pat Riley do? Tell him to stfu and play basketball. Pat’s ego is second to none. Ran Bron out, LET FLASH GO, and now Jimmy. All this coming from a heat fan.
I totally agree, I think Houston is the best fit for all parties involved ( jimmy, Miami and Houston) but if I were Houston I don’t think I’d trade fvv quite yet, unless they had to for salary reasons. I think I’d rather do like cam whitemore Steven Adams, Tate and a pick or two. Cam hasn’t been as good as he was last year and yeah it could be just a sophomore slump type of thing but I just don’t think he’s in Imes long term plans, especially after drafting reed.
Also, I think a jimmy trade to phoenix makes since, at least on phoenixs side. Miami, yeah I wouldn’t want a 31/32 year old Brad Beal making 50 mil for 3 years, since Miami is a big market that could still attract free agents. But for phoenix, I loveee this fit. Phoenix needs defense desperately and ik jimmy isn’t what he once was defensively but he’d really help out on that front.
W vid Matt as always, looking forward to 2025 bangers
@@joeyollar2781 Cam Whitmore is way higher upside than Reed Sheppard I’m sorry it needs to be said… valuing Reed over Cam at this point is just absurd to me… Cam has been good since coming back from G league and he’s same age as Reed except way bigger and a freak athlete he could have Jaylen Brown type of upside.. I like Reed but he’s 6’1 and having a terrible rookie year ppl have always been way over estimating his upside that’s why I had him 8th when most ppl had him top 4
@ yeahh, I’ve heard that. But reed also doesn’t get much playing time so I think with more time and development he can be really good. But the only reason why I’d say they’d be okay probably giving up cam is because, although he’s been a lot better, Dillon brooks has been really good for Houston and ik he’s not the long term guy but I just don’t think cam will get the playing time he needs in Houston, especially with Jabari tari and amen playing a lot
He’s averaging less than Austin Reaves in all categories with a team with a better record 😂 Heat should just send him home. They let Wade walk, they’re not gonna overpay him… and they say he’s a better Heat than LeBron!🤣
Dont curse the Rockets with Butler!
I think suns is the best swap. They're already all in and have a losing record. I'm sure beal wants a do over. Make it done. Throw in a pick to sweeten the pot
Jimmy butler doesn’t move the needle?? What are we doin
COME TO THE WARRIORS.
Trae Young for Jimmy Butler swap 🥶🎯
Texas.. Wemby needs u for a deep playoff run
Butler is going to the Jazz because Reily is petty AF
The disrespect on jimmy is crazy, is Wiggins better ? Stop it 😂 jimmy advanced stats are still great and when playoffs come we know what’s coming
People are delusional, playoff is something else and comparing Wigg with Jimmy is a blasphemy
Wiggins isnt even close to Jimmy lol it's very obvious Jimmy's not trying.
If I had to wear the heat culture jersey's id request a trade too
SROS as a warriors I don’t want Jimmy at all. Because why I want to be in second apron hell. And paying Jimmy over 50 million dollars per year. We need a stretch 5. And more defensive players at the trade deadline. But is my opinion.
How & is it possible to trade DFS this soon?
Jimmy Butler Should get Traded to the Chicago Bulls in a Trade.
Spurs, Trade Zach Collins and Vassell for Jimmy Buckets and this way you can invest in Castle
your profile pic or name leads to another channel, just a heads up
I cannot see rockets move any real players like Cam, Bari or Reed. Like Maybe a pick or 2 and then using contracts like Steven Adams, Jeff Green, Jock Landale, Jae'Sean Tate, and Aaron Holiday. Butler is too old and expensive
Does this make sense for thunder? They have money for 2 years, then will have to resign chet and dub
No
The only place he can i really see him going, Warriors .. Maves & Rockets said nah already and then the Lakers lol, yeah, right
If I was Heat I would be an azz and trade him to Pels for BI.
Butler is going nowhere, THERE'S NO TRADE RIGHT NOW WORTH IT... sit down and quiet up and ball or Riley is going to bench his butt till he can move him in June.... Barkley called him out in his BS, joy = 💰 he wants his sheckles and Riles said NOPE... he's too expensive with no upside.
Right now Heat don’t have that much leverage as you think! They should have traded him long time ago. I don’t know if he would go for more picks because of his age. If Suns get him idk what it would do. He’s injury prone as much as KD🫣
GSW: Not worth it for them. Jimmy doesn't move the needle enough to give up on better trades down the line.
PHX: Yeah, as you've said, the Beal contract is horrible. No way Miami is gonna take that. Remember that Beal also has a NTC.
HOU: They have no spacing right now, it would be worse with Jimmy. They need a better secondary ball handler and/or a stretch big, not a fading SF.
The problem is: What is Jimmy actually worth rn? 1 first and 1-2 players for salary? A bunch of bums for the same reason? And who is willing to give him the extension he wants? Only bad franchises would do that, e.g. the Pelicans, Wizards or Hornets. But they're all rebuilding, Jimmy is not a player you'd want during a rebuild.
I guess he'll get traded to a random semi-contender who's desperate enough. Funniest timeline: Timberwolves.