Lying Freight Broker Tried To Jam Me. Customer Was Mad
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- Broker lied. Load was bigger that he said. This creates rate and customer service issues.
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You can always tell when a load broker is lying to you. If his lips are moving, he's lying!🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣😂😂 I'm dying over here
Having a ex wife or two will definitely prep you for a broker
No if it tells you it's pays great and we have the fastest pay in the world, then they are lying thur. Their teeth.
About the same as most drivers also..
Retired Broker here. I agree that most load brokers are less than honest and are not above lying. They do not know how to grow a business. I specialized in flat bed, over size, and overweight shipments. From the start, I did everything I could to establish a good working relationship with the carriers, which included paying an amount that would ensure their solvency earlier than the standard 30 days and sometime before I got paid. Without good, reliable, safe carriers I had nothing to sell. Customers come and go, but good carriers are rare and valued. I would always side with the carrier if waiting time, excess space or weight claims were substantiated by the carrier with paperwork or scale receipts. My customers paid for permits on a cost plus basis which went to the carrier. The credit granted to me by the carriers was not the credit I granted to my customers. I paid the carriers even if I didn't get paid - only happened once in 25 years. I did make a reasonable amount of money and looking back - it was easy and I didn't have to lie or cheat to do so, and wouldn't.
Truckers, for the most part, are the honest ones. Brokers, shippers, parts suppliers and dealers are the dishonest players. Oh. Don't forget our wonderful government agencies overseeing the industry. They're probably the MOST dishonest.
Try to get anyone to do a simple install job of an appliance the big box company didn't finish installing because you had to replace the pipe it was attached to is like pulling your good teeth out of your mouth with a pair of plyers because it's either no priority or they give you a million excuses as to why they can't do it and you end up right back at where you started with the big box retailer ending up being the one who put you through all the hell to begin with that ends up finishing the job they didn't want to do after you spend a week or more wrangling with the shipper house who thinks you're nothing but a waste of their time and your appliance sits in the garage still not installed.
I agree about that and I work for the government
I went through a broker to get an independent to haul something for me. He gave the driver a different price than what I had already credit-carded to pay the order. So the driver was at my house holding the load for the difference. We called the broker together and he told us "he didn't care" and hung up.
I ended up paying the difference for the load. Price of a lesson. Also, the interstate commerce commission took my complaint and details and that broker is no longer in business.
Glad your customers were real gentlemen.
Good that you followed up and closed down that broker. 👍👍
How long ago was this, the ICC was closed down in the 90's...😂😂😂
@@shoestring1964 how can the ICC be dissolved??
That was the only organization that supported carriers, And their rights for travel, And made sure everything was correct
The FMCSA It's not an organization for the motor Carrier.
The The FMCSA is a 4 profit organization that was supposed to be about safety, And they are far from supporting the motor Carrier.
The ICC Was your representation.
So it still has to be there
@@StayingBack71it’s the surface transportation board now.
@@StayingBack71 The ICC was one of the most corrupt agencies the US government ever had. Carter vetoed funding for it in the 70's. Then Regan convinced Congress to just abolish it, along with the Civil Aeronautics Board, in the early 80's.
I was trucking in the early 90's pulling a refer . We delivered a load in Seattle,Wa. We were told to head to Wenatchee. When we got there still no load . We got a hotel room for one night. The next day we had a load of apples going to Boston but by the time we got it, the broker had gone home (noon time p t). The shipper called him for the information he needed and the broker he was home and he was not going back to work. The shipper asked if we had a room and we said no that everything was booked up. So he made a phone call and got us a room for the night (a sueit) . Double king beds. The delay in loading cast the broker detention time plus at least 300.00 for the room.
Hey Steve, While i understand you try to keep the content fun and entertaining, i also think situations like this one are also a good learning experience for viewers as well.
My company, we hold a bow dozer out of a auction and a total soul. It's this baby one no was a f****** big 1 and they didn't want to pay us, so the boss said bring it to the yard, we'll let it sit here at sat in the yard for a month and the customer that bought it finally got ahold of us and said. Hey, I don't know what the h*** happened, but I'll pay it. So we ended up paying it up and we delivered it after a month of sitting in our yard. You said I'll never use that broker again.
I saw Orwell parked at Sheetz while I was fueling up Tuesday morning in Greenville, NC. It took a minute to realize where I knew that truck from from. 😂
I'm in Bethel too bad i didn't see Orwell! It would have been cool for sure.
Good job Steve standing your ground. This business we in needs more people with backbones.
Too many hands in the pot. The seller, the broker, the purchaser, riggers, drivers, multiple trucks, all looking for their piece of the pie. Every time something changes the broker is making concessions or making up lies.
After you saw the freight. Should have loaded 30' and told the shipper that was what the broker ordered truck for. Tell the shipper or buyer he'd have to call another trk in for the balance. Let someone else fight with the broker.
It was 112 last Saturday in Baton Rouge.
I can't believe what I am watching near the end of the video. That puny little forklift was lifting over 7 tons off the trailer in one go. I used work in a regional lumber distribution center and we had 20 ton forklifts just to manipulate 6 tons worth of lumber lifts into a 48 foot van.
I saw Orwell in the wild today, was waiting for Steve to pass me and he got off in the rest area . Early afternoon. Maybe another time.
Holy crap 100° that sounds like an average summer day here in socal where I live so I know how that feels and then add humidity in and well it goes straight hot to hot as hell, stay hydrated and stay safe
100° plus humidity is the normal here in Oklahoma.
One day Last week was 107° and 70% humidity.
You never get use to it.
Thankfully, we don't get very much of that kind of weather, Lake Michigan is a great heat sink. The down side is, there are also the occasional 20 below zero "polar vortexes" we also get hit with...that takes some getting used to as well!
I have been watching your videos here in Europe for a year and you are really skilled and a hard worker in your field of transportation.
Thank you for your good videos.
...and you want to move to Florida? 100 degrees and humidity are everyday down there
and hurricane season!
And floods and Hurricanes and TOO MANY PEOPLE and GRIDLOCK
And…outrageous home owners insurance premiums
Early springtime & wintertime are tolerable in Fla. I lived in Miami.🙂
Steve early springtime & winter time are tolerable in Fla.i lived in Miami🙂
Brokers been taking 75+% for years. We need broker reform! I argue with them almost everyday. Sounds like some tql or nolan or coyote shenanigans
Mexican truck drivers strike very soon, 300,000 trucks two days.
Hey, you have to account for inflation (the size of the load). Or maybe it was the heat that caused it to expand.
Would like to see that reaction. They would send 15 000 gallons of liquid nitrogen on site immediately trying to shrink that load to the point the trucker pays the broker to take it 🤣
The moneyman's always going to try and pull one over on you. Glad you held your ground and didn't take the BS.
The buyer looked like good old school people
Life would be so much better if people were honest. But, so many are not and that makes life difficult. Good job, Steve, and another great video.
That green Apu is pretty darn loud. I've been thinking about which one to get, and based on that I may cross that off the list
Great video Steve. Glad you don't fall for any BS! Know you're worth!
Steve,this cost for loads is fascinating. Please talk more about how much you have to get for a load to pay expenses.
When fuel was around a dollar per gallon, I remember an owner operator telling me that it cost 70 cents per mile to operate a truck.
With today's fuel prices you can just imagine.
Don't Take Cheap Loads. Well Steve, you are giving us hard truth of what goes on at shippers and brokers. People think when you get your own truck and trailer. They think they will make big money. Sure you make big money but you will deal with the bullshit out on the road pick ups and drops. Its good you talk about this, it prepare the drivers on what they will deal with down the road.
Thanks for the on the road education. I knew basically that there's stuff truckers on Whole have to put up with, but you've added some knowledge /education to me. Thanks, it's appreciated.
Great and informative video Steve from an ex driver who only had to meet Postal Contractor schedules. And a little railroad content here: in the exact spot you loaded, was once located the Milwaukee Road's RIP (Repair In Place) yard adjacent to the famous Shops complex. I can remember going to Brewers games at the old County Stadium as a kid in the 70s and watching trains more than the game.
All prices needs to be set from the bsginning. If they do not pay, you keep the load.
When I was working with my dad he was in his late sixties or early seventies back then and I used to see how they tried to take advantage of him all the time there was a lot of dishonest people in the trucking industry and you're right these brokers are very dishonest totally
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
Enjoyed the video chap...The weather looks ace not like raining UK..lol
I'm in Bethel NC it would have been cool to see Orwell in person i grew up around trucking and love the older trucks!
I was wondering how the water pump on the green apu and the water pump on the big cat would work together. Seems like it went good
Hey bud nice tractor!! Mine was just like that! Different colors. Was a killer tractor. I don't know how you guys are making it in this bullshit going on!! Seeing that cockpit brings back a lot of memories!!
Sounds like something you would go thru when you do deliveries in Philly lol
The shananagins that the broker pulled on you over this load and the customer who bought the equipment are prime examples of the dishonesty that my dad used in discouraging me from following in his trucking footsteps over 35 years ago.
So cool to see a old Pete Cab Over out there still hammering. Love the gopro angles on the trailer too.
Great video Steve really enjoy all the different camera angles and your commentary. Interesting situation dealing with all involved but you got it there. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Steve.
Isn't it strange that no matter any state "of the economy" transportation, trucking especially, seems to always have the consensus of being somehow if not free very close to. Yet, especially over here in Europe in places, everyone is acutely aware of diesel prices being $2.47 per liter. So that's $9.33/gallon!!! Low cost freight huh? 👀can't see it anywhere no matter how hard I'm looking.
Hey Steve! Be Staying Safe, Hope It All Goes Well!
The camera protected you from that old guy’s willingness to want to blame you. That just supports why body cameras should be on in these types of situations.
That was a really interesting episode/ Thanks for bringing us along.
I noticed the fisheye on the left side needs to be adjusted better than that. It would drive the nuts .
Nice to see Orwell kicking around close to my (West Allis) neighborhood! In your edit you cut away from the road, but if you noticed the scorched pavement at the Burleigh exit of I-41...that was where my 1999 Honda Civic went up in flames on Aug. 4th. Total loss, ashes and bare metal. The friend who was driving it at the time escaped completely unharmed.
I've had riggers move equipment for me. They usually charge by the job, but their hourly is like $200/hr.
That location was a mile from where I grew up. And that cul-de-sac you backed into used to be the through Street called Harnischfeger Drive. Within a year that yellow building will be torn down as Joy Global will be moved out. You are also next to 2 former rail lines both Milwaukee Road. Behind you was the Air Line bypass from the mainline in Elm Grove and behind the fence of the scrapyard were the lead tracks into the hump yard. Don't feel bad a lot of folks still call it Miller Park as opposed to someplace that doesn't pay claims very promptly and makes sudden rate changes
Lol.... You loaded up right behind P&H Mining! That's that yellowish building in the background. But the majority of us don't work there anymore. They moved us all down to the new facility in South Harbor. It's at the end of Greenfield Avenue as far east as you can go until you're in lake Michigan.
I hear you if they don't want to pay the difference. Sell it as scrap, you can recoup your money for fuel. From Green Bay To Milwaukee and back. That's the last resort of course. But those darn brokers to put it mildly. After listening to more of your explanation on how it went. I know exactly what that broker was thinking smart ass truck driver. They think we drive around in circles with our dunce camp on. They need us more than we need them. And sometimes you have to tell The broker that.
That Recycler is right behind Harnespheger-Komatsu on National Avenue.
Hi nice to meet you love your videos I'm from a truck driving family my dad God rest his soul was old school driver for over 50 years teamster Union man my oldest brother and my middle brother were all truck drivers also my youngest of my three brothers worked in the construction as a heavy equipment operator and truck driver myself I drove for a little while but mostly was in the construction operating heavy equipment but I did go on the road with my dad later on in his life I drove with him to make deliveries on several loads that was back in the 1980s we used to run into this type of situation quite often because later in life my dad became an owner-operator him and my oldest brother and my cousin all started a trucking business called northwind transport my brother ran that business from 1985 until 1995 but ended up going bankrupt because the trucking industry was not doing that well at that time
100 thumbs up 👍×100, to you Steve. And yeah, you don't deal with brokers too often. They're averaging 30-40%. I tried to train my dispatcher to always negotiate double the rate, and most times we met in the middle. Brockers need to be governed by fmcsa as trucks are.
Why do we need brokers in the first place? In this age of everyone having computers and smart phones, the customer should be able to post what they want shipped to a load board and what they are offering to pay to get it to where it's going. Brokers should just be obsolete middlemen.
Saw you coming down 39 yesterday man truck looks good keep the videos coming please!
I'm loving that bumper on Orwell.
Years ago i used to pick up the baled cardboard boxes from stores next to Miller Park. There were dumpster diving drug addict homeless people around there then too
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Some of the freight brokers out there are professional but there is a pile of them that give trucking a bad name. I as you know use to drive. Once I got off the road I dispatched for awhile, then I got into load brokering. I worked for a very professional load broker. I loved my job working in transportation. If ya want excitement trucking will give you lots of it. It’s nice you usually don’t have to work with the load brokers yourself. When they start to take the profit away from the carrier it’s time to stop using that broker. Anywho great video showing what goes on behind the scenes when taking a load brokers load. Have a great and a safe day.. Happy trails and happy motoring..
Never delt with brokers in the first years of my career. 38 years of working with people who mostly had their own accounts and salespeople who found businesses that needed trucks. Sorta like you guys and Striker. But, the last 10 years or so? Seems like we couldn't do anything without a broker being involved. Especially far from home and in need of a backhaul. Then? They started with the tracking your phone and wanting me to call them every day.
You weren't kidding when you said next to Miller Park.
Hero. I just wanted to let you know we love you and we're still watching down here in SW Middle TN.❤😂⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
When i was at FCC we used to do alot of brokers and at the time FCC gave us drivers alot of autonomy out on the road with them. It was as close to O/O without paying for fuel and fixing things. They got new owners so that all went away.
Had a megabroker big CH snowflake
Get sent to this place and they load up the truck with totes ( at the time didnt have tanker endorsement) then get handed a nice assortment of colorful placards
that truck sat on the dock for 2 days and made 1k in detention. We were not registered as a carrier to haul hazardous materials so told the broker unload it
"just drive the back roads and dodge the scales" Told them to pound sand you picked the wrong driver to get this done we ended up hiring a company to unload it off me on the road side into a box truck and put it in storage what happened to it i have no godly idea
Looks like you will need a new drivers seat in Orwell in the near future Steve. Still as always love the content and I admire what you do. In a sense you are living my dream as an owner operator with a cabover.
I like your style That's the way you go. Make that beautiful money
Put your foot down. That's what everybody needs to do. God bless you be safe out there.
If folks give you a hard time you should name them😮😢😅
Good job steve
My last load was a Cat 730 Dump weighing in at 54658 as cargo and 91840 gross. 10920 on steers 39140 on drives 41780 of trl. I’m on 5 axles. So it may be able to be done.
I Wish it was just 100 degrees where I live.
By all means, please take my 100+ temps. No charge!
Always enjoy your content and easy attitude, Thank you!
I seen you parked in Greenville the other night at the sheetz 😎
STEVE ...KNOW YOUR WORTH!!! .. BROKERS SCREW THE DRIVERS ANYWAY THEY CAN ... THEY TAKE THEIR PART OFT THE TOP .. AND HIRE A DRIVER TO TAKE THE LOAD BC THEY KNOW YOU GUYS NEED THE MONEY ...
Depends on states. I just did 58,200 lbs on 5 axles from KS to IA. Just under 93 k
I'm surprised DOT hasn't said anything about the rust jacking on the ramp of the trailer
American family field??
Safe travels and good health.
IDK if the trailer was a full level flatbed and the bit on the goose neck bit was put inside the tall hallow part. Maybe then with the 2 free spaces in the front and back over the tire's area would have made it 30 feet... But as we know the trailer you have has the raised area in front where the king pin is so the load couldn't have been moved up more closer to the cab of the semi, and that extra bit was not put inside the big hallow part of the crusher.. So how it was put on the trailer there is no way it was 30 feet.
You did great job putting out this video so others can see the way these broker and see what truck drivers deal with
Fortunately, you are the kind of driver you on your truck if they push too hard you’ll drive home empty it’s your truck, your trailer let’s make a deal I wanna go home 30 years in the business I hold cars but I fully understand freight
I haul 100,000 all the time in Texas with just five axles on a OS/OW permit…still only 12,000 allowed on the steer but allowed 22,000 on the next four axles
Nice guys at the delivery spot 👍👍
Did anybody notice the guy in the yellow/orange shirt taps the other man back? He was telling him that Steve was talking too much.
Yeah I seen that. Was like. Wtf? Something he didn’t like or didn’t wan to listen then changed his mind when old guy didn’t pay attention to him 😂😂
2001 i was self employed as a courier. Never mind the brokers, my dispatcher would Not get out of bed for less than $150 a day. And that was in 2001 in Australia.
Got to stand your ground because if you don’t nobody will. Good job 👍
scammers everywhere good you stood your ground steve
Wow, a cab over! Takes me back a ways.....thanks!
Steve, you got chains and I saw some trees, all that junk would be on the ground. It's now the brokers problem.
Dispite the lying weasel broker, the costomer looks happy "ish"
Got those 2 good old boys in the thumbnail, makes em look like crooks unless you watch the video 😂lol
ARE YOU GOING TO ATTEND THE KASSON, MN. TRUCK SHOW? I THINK IT WILL BE THE WEEKEND AFTER LABOR DAY WEEKEND.
Show the truck some love u hv those beat down rims on it
Yeh we get scammer like that over here (UK/EU) on all types of load. Sometimes it need to take a lein on the load.
hi steve the ole pete sounds real good with twin stacks,keeo up the good work
Love the camera angles in your videos
They call it American Family park now but I still call it Miller.
Is that the world famous BUCYRUS your picking up at
I could never. I have no idea how people can worl like this. Lying, wrong, stealing money, simply evil industry, it is probablo ok that I did not finish my driving shool recently :D (though i needed it for a farm and hauling bigger trailers)
Considering u only have 29 in the well..could have put the piece on the neck underneath the flat steel on the back before the kick up
Subscribed to you...i grew up nearby Kensington on Hancock and york st.
Yes. I agree. A lotta brokers are to blame for some reasons:Local trucking companies going under. "ARROGANT , PEIONS' "DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE! AND. Control others. "What's called. A buy-out/throw your ass out... Hmmm. Whyyy???
How's that old saying go cash on the barrelhead😮😅
it looked like the goods receiver was happy and understanding in the end, just need to work out the papers and all now. honesty goes a long way, even when honesty demands bringing bad news. Lies will never ever make anything better.
I pick up beer up there right on state street at miller you can see that stadium 🏟 from the drop yard
Sorry buddy good luck
These last 5 years, Freight Brokers are doing their damnedest to out-sleaze Lawyers and Used Car Salesmen. Some of these vultures try to keep up to 80% of the contract, some Brokers are honest and only keep 10% to 15% of the contract for themselves.
SouthGeorgiaHotshot can attest to both ends of the spectrum. HeavyHaulTV got out of the business because of these issues almost a year ago, sold his rolling stock, bought a home, and retired.
Not gonna say I'm perfect, but I work on 8% and will show drivers the rate, I'm on you drivers side, all these 30-50% motherf****** out there, are worthless as tits on a bore hog... No reason to screw over the folks(drivers) who take care of, so take care of them.