The best response to Microsoft Recall and Copilot+: Switch NOW from Windows to Linux!
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- The transition from Windows 10 to Linux is becoming increasingly attractive as users worldwide seek alternatives to Microsoft's operating system or its features like Recall or Copilot+. This shift is driven by various motivations, including the stricter requirements of Windows 11, the display of advertisements in Windows, as well as concerns regarding the growing integration of cloud services and associated data storage. Against this backdrop, more and more people are exploring Linux as a potential alternative.
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I've used Linux Mint (which is quite user-friendly) exclusively for a couple of years, after using Microsoft products (DOS and Windows) since the mid 1980s. Some learning is required, but I'd say that for anyone who has a basic grasp of computer use, the learning curve won't be too steep. I've found the process enjoyable. I can honestly say that I find using my distro more pleasant and productive compared to Windows. I'm self-employed, so I depend on my operating system for both business and personal needs. Linux has not let me down.
yeah I just love getting lost on a 4 hour fix that are 3 clicks in 10 seconds on widnows.
@@Skukkix23 sorry, the process had unexpectedly ended. Do you want to send your soul to Microsoft ?
@@Skukkix23 Simply not the case with Linux Mint, I had the same reservations but I made the switch a few weeks back.
Everything I have thrown at it has simply worked and it is entirely possible to install windows centric programs and games on windows using the likes of Wine & Lutris and for the most part people have already done all the ground work with those setups so it becomes a one click install that just works but even if that is not the case there will likely be an alternative program for Linux that is just as good.
Nearly Every game I have thrown at it from Steam that I own has also just worked because Valve has helped make that possible too in Steam.
And speaking of 3 clicks in 10 seconds that was all it took to switch the Nividia driver from the opensource driver to the proprietary driver.
Instead of rattling off Microsoft tag lines you could just try it for yourself, Live USBs exist of Linux for this purpose but it would be best to use an external SSD rather than a USB stick as they are just simply faster.
@@privateagentomgodness, there wasn't a better reply
Sometimes, problem solving in Windows is easy, and other times, it takes days to sort out. Linux is can be easier or harder depending on the circumstances, but it offers more power to the user to hammer things straight.
Hardware wise, I had Windows unable to recognize a Samsung printer, but it worked flawlessly on Linux. Linux, on the other hand, can't handle the scanner on my all in one printer. So it is a draw there.
The big weakness of Linux is the restrictions on software availability.
Mint is pretty easy to navigate after 30 plus years of Windows use. Only reason I downloaded it was the Windows 11 hardware requirements and it's ad/Spyware features. It's really stupid to be forced to buy a $1,500 replacement system when there is nothing wrong with it. Forced obsolescence is not in my budget.
I literally switched last night, Linux Mint 21.3. I refuse to accept that a PC with an Intel i7-6700k CPU @4.00Ghz, 32GB RAM and a Nvidia GTX1070 doesn't have a place in 2024 according to Microsoft. Easiest and quickest install ever. My first switch was about a month ago, switching from Windows 11 Home on a Thinkpad E14 gen 2. I was surprised how smooth everything went with the Fingerprint reader the only device on the laptop unsupported in Linux Mint. Modern Linux, I would argue is better and less intrusive that Modern Windows.
Since 2017 I have been running different Linux distributions on my i3-7100 from that year, being perfectly useful for all my uses. Since it has a TDP of 51 watts I always said that the most modern processors to justify a replacement should not only be more powerful but also more efficient. After several errors in my opinion of the manufacturers in that sense, today I looked with sympathy at the new Intel ultras, the 125h, the 155h and the 185h. In my country, the laptops offered with these processors all come with Windows included, making things unnecessarily expensive. As I am delighted with my Fedora with pipewire and the latest MESA and Wayland drivers and sensational performance, I will continue to wait for a reasonable change to be offered that, in addition to the previous factors, does not compromise privacy like the recall function.
same i just switched; I got all my windows games working on linux with steam proton and got all my apps with software manager, the performance is identical, I have a Intel i5-4210u @2.65Ghz, 8GB RAM and a Nvidia GT840M
look up fprintd for support for that fingerprint reader my dude
@dawogboro by chance did you upload a video of it?
I watched a video earlier (cant remember who made it) that had similar spec system and same reasoning as you lol
@@pichincho7You my friend sound like you want an ARM based pc. I know I do.
I have used Linux for several years to keep old laptops alive and useful. I had also been slowly switching to FOSS titles under Windows. A few weeks ago I converted my main PC to Linux as I was finally confident that my daily workflow tasks could be supported. The PC is actually performing better than it did under Win11. My only regret would be not doing it sooner.
the greed of these giant corporations needs to be stopped!
How will you proceed?
@@imacmill not buying any of their products
@@mlzphoto-official Where will you get your products, then?
@@imacmill i will use linux and open source software. all i need is available for linux, so..
We should be happy for greedy software companies because it pushes more people towards open source and usually free software.
Linux for me is 80% there , thats up from 60% a few years ago.. I plan on riding it out windows 10 to the end and then switch over to Linux.
I would agree that it's 80% there, still there's a need for a thorough restructuring of the first initial impressions, especially for someone who is not very tech savy.
Windows 11 annoyed me enough that I got a mini pc for the things I absolutely need windows for and moved my main machine over to Linux after windows 10 EOS was announced. For my use it's more comfortable than dual booting or running in a VM and the mini doesn't take up much space or use much power when I do fire it up. Not perfect but as good as it's going to get though I understand it's not for everyone.
@@MrVanshajSaxenaWhat's confusing about popos or Ubuntu or mint? I'm not saying your wrong, but I have bias
@@kangerer8886 Some missing software on the gaming and creative side. But in another year and half I think support should be there either native or through wine/proton.
@@kangerer8886 photo editing programs not just adobe , video editing programs.. I want a diversity of programs that work flawlessly before I consider switching. FOSS is ok but those programs can fill the gaps that foss can't.
I'm on win10 and I have no intentions to switch to 11, as M$ gives me more and more reasons every week to avoid their new OS like a plague.
I work with illustration and 3D modelling. Most 3D programs I make use for either run natively on Linux or they can through Proton. The only problem I have is Clip Studio Paint which apparently even on Wine is rated "garbage". However, I recently found out it runs without noticeable downsides on a virtual machine'd windows 10, yes, even the tablet works as intended there. So while I will suffer the downside of not being able to run my main 2D software natively, I can run it on a forcefully offline win10 VM while everything else runs on Linux.
Gaming? I stopped with AAA games long ago. Most indie/AA games I play can run on Linux, and I won't feel the urge to "play this new game at all costs" if it turns out it can only run on Win11. Microsoft have dropped the last straw already when they forcefully added copilot to their OS. Now that they want to ad more ads and that legalized surveillance, they are just beating a dead horse. You don't have to furtherly convince me to stay away, M$.
Gaming on Linux has come a long way. I get your comments though. It's everything else that pulled me to Linux. Privacy, security, breadth of FOSS, control of desktop environment, etc etc
I have been using Linux for the past few years after over a decade of not using it. The one thing that amazed me the most was the support for my Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card automatically in Linux, but not in Windows. Additionally, the Asus drivers for my card has issues on Windows 10 and 11, sometimes producing a horrible screeching sound when playing videos on UA-cam. But in Linux, no so issues exist at all.
Moved to Debian Linux for now. I was told it was a stable and secure linux distribution, with no fancy bells and whistles, but it's working quite fine and fast. Learning to use linux is still a fun activity. I'm 68 and I like to learn new things.
I'm a Linux user and haven't touched a windows computers for about 4 years. One thing I can tell you though, the average person will not switch to Linux no matter how bad (actually make that even worse) windows gets. 90% don't even know Linux exists and the other 10% are either too scared, not interested in learning a new OS or have tried but gave up as it does have a steeper learning curve than windows. I'm actually glad windows keeps changing hardware requirements, means a lot of the users will be forced to buy new computers which means even more low cost second hand computers (which are perfectly fine) available to Linux users. Long live windows.. yeah!!!!!
The common normie just buys a laptop with Winblows installed. The moment you tell them to create a bootable USB in order to install Linux they freak out 😂
A funny take....maybe W11 will motivate more to do the bit of learning it may take to use a Linux distro. I find that the distro makers keep making the general user friendliness better, easier installs, config guis, app stores. Frankly I don't see Linux as any more difficult to install or use vs Windows.
@@PVT_Barry I agree but most people are creatures of habit and anything new is a no-no. Their loss.
If Linux could run all the software I need I would switch but I use certain things that from my research don't work or not very well. More software companies need to start making native Linux versions. I will move some of my computers to Linux but will have to stray with windows 10 for some stuff.
The right choice for a windows user would be dual boot, having windows for non concerning privacy stuff and maybe Ubuntu for everything else..
Otherwise just avoid upgrading to the next windows
Or you can also tweak the iso and remove everything from it.. It's very easy to make a minimal windows installation
Straight up what I've telling to people. Customizing Windows ISOs is so easy, I do it constantly. As I still use quite a bit of Windows exclusive software & I also really like W11 a lot, I find no reason to ditch my customized environment for something that doesn't work for me. People who fanatically keep pushing out the "switch now" ideology get really annoying. And they always spam you with the exact same points 😂
@@DS6Prophet I'm a Linux user too cause I'm a devops for living but I like gaming from time to time so I just start my custom windows and play on it.. Windows sadly it's the main os for gaming you can't really avoid it unless you install arch or those complicated distros and you spend 20h trying to figure out how to install your Nvidia drivers 🤣
@@laskyb4275 the main issue with is not installing NVIDIA drivers which is super easy on Ubuntu- based systems. The issue is mostly installing Proton or Wine (unless you play a proper game with a native Linux binary like Unreal Tournament)
AI spying will not significantly drive up Linux usage. People will by and large suck it up and continue to use Windows just as they have over the last few decades after each new outrage from MS.
Now that I know that COSMIC has an Overview that can be bound to the Super key, I'm looking forward to it and future POP!_OS releases more than ever.
Before I try again to swith they need to fix hybrid graphics, already did it before but old solutions stop working, once gnome updates it stops working, fan control and power profiles are important for gaming laptops if it that's isn't fixed I won't switch again, waiting for an update to break my system that I had to Tinker to get to work
I switched all my PCs and Macs to Linux Mint 6 years ago. Unless you have a very specific app running only under Win with no alternative in Linux (although many Win apps run under Wine in Linux), it makes no sense to stay with Win. Even my wife who used to work with Win7 (back then) the last 5 years has become a Linux Mint user - it took her exactly 2 days to adjust from Win 7 to Linux Mint. She updates her system, everything works and no more endless questions about blue screens of death or programs not working as they should under Win...
My 10 year old kid uses LibreOffice on Linux and doesn't even understand he's not using Windows. The problem is people so used to the bloat that they don't know other alternatives exist.
FUD, it requires an NPU which does not even exist yet and if in some far-flung future you happen to buy a CPU with an NPU it is literally 1 click to disable. This is just MSFT jumping on the "AI" buzzword bingo bandwagon and just like Crypto and NFTs it'll be dead in a year as just like crypto and NFTs the average user has exactly fuck and all use for AI on their PC.
Hell I can tell ya a good 75% or more of average desktop users that cross my desk aren't even using half their current PC resources as it doesn't take that much to run Instagram, FB, and YT so expecting them to have a use for AI processing is like expecting them to have a use for grid computing, the demand outside server farms just ain't there.
It used to be you needed Windows to run Microsoft Office but with a Microsoft 365 subscription, you can either do that in the cloud or download the apps as web apps and pin them to your taskbar.
Indeed. You can switch to pure Debian or some debian variant like Ubuntu or Mint, or some RHEL alternative...
Disable their telemetry , telemetry which is nothing the one from Windows, and that's it... if you play games, just be sure to use distro that supports your GPU drivers.
Ubuntu has some telemetry and I don't usually recommend it. With Linux Mint you only have to delete one package and that's it, full telemetry-free OS.
I’m going to run Mint from a USB for a while to see what it’s like, then slowly move across my computers. Windows 11 can go jump.
Me 2 .
I don't regret my decision to switch to Linux. However, when I first tried it 15 years ago I found it impenetrably complicated and mysterious. Then there's the portion oi the Linux community that seems to be only interested in gaming and really nerdy technical questions, to which there are only really nerdy and technical answers. For everyday use, no problems, and the fact that I was forced to find answers to some problems only improved my confidence and loyalty.
What I object to is answers like "go to terminal (Ctrl + Alt + T... duuh, can do that) and then halfway through being confronted with "edit using Nano text editor" or similar. You need someone virtually sitting next to you the first time you do that, most annoying.
I'm also planning to move both of my PCs to Linux world. Basic usage is easy enough but if wanting to tinker more in depth Linux has a bit of a learning curve and terminal and Linux file system becomes familiar quickly.
I mainly use windows 11, I use nano daily (on windows), it is not a Linux thing
Being unfamiliar with the command line is literally a skill issue and you cannot blame Linux for it
@@arjix8738 I was complaining about the quality of some of the advice being given, as well as the way in which it is given. My complaint applies particularly to Linux as it typically attracts nerds. I never said that I can't use Nano, it's tha arrogant way in which they write: "go to terminal", with as described above as though talking to a halfwit and then tell you to edit Nano which is completely off putting. You want examples? Not only stuff involving Nano, plenty of it.
@@bouffon1 I don't need examples since I completely understand what you mean
I've been through that myself, I just despise it when people like you put it that way, because it makes others think it is a Linux specific issue.
Windows is noob friendly, that ain't a bad thing, but it also means many people that use windows have never touched the command line and need to be guided, like a baby, from scratch in order to use Linux.
Learning everything about an operating system from scratch is time consuming, heck, teaching someone everything from scratch is hard.
You complain because you skipped a lot of steps, that's how it is.
If you spent time to learn Linux the same way you spent time to learn windows, you'd have no issues.
I take it you have no issues now, since you have spent that time.
@@arjix8738 I'm not complaining about Linux specific issues, I'm complaining about people like you that for some reason become quite arrogant about their knowledge. I learnt to use Windows in 1994 in a couple of days; Apparently some people have the time (?at work or in mum's basement?) to "learn Linux"
I switched a couple of days ago. I chose Debian 12. It's not super exciting, but it's stable and does 4k youtube content smoothly and I've figured out how to make it stream DSD (Sony SACD) files to my external dac succesfully. The only downside is it doesn't play off of my games, but that's ok I guess.
Been running Linux Mint for almost a year, never going back.
Welcome to the club!
Desktop linux is still many years away. I know that for people using this daily it's hard to understand but the fact is that the only alternative for windows is macos and no ammount of copium will change that. I do use linux daily but in the current state of desktop linux, I would just swap all my hardware onto apple platform if I had to remove windows.
And how about Gnome or KDE in Linux ?
Only if apps like whatsapp call feature is supported on linux
Same
If Linux would offer 24/7 support for a fee, this would greatly influence potential new buyers.
Ubuntu, for example offers ubuntu linux workstation support with Ubuntu Pro (phone support option for higher fee). I've never used it though so I don't know a whole lot about it
Windows 11 is nothing more than bloatware
Windows is not going to lose its >70% market share due to its AI features. People who use Linux should just continue using Linux in peace without trying to impose it on everyone.
And what about when they endlessly complain about Windows? Shouldn't you tell them that other alternatives exist?
@privateagent I mean, alternatives have existed for a very long time, and people have had genuine reasons to move from windows to those alternatives. But saying people should move from windows due to Recall is just absurd.
@@justronny20 I don't understand your point. Why shouldn't I tell people that alternatives exist?
@privateagent You can and should. My point was, telling people to switch from Windows to Linux because of the Recall/AI features alone doesn't make sense.
Where can I get a computer made with Linux? Or can I overwrite my current computer with it? If I can overwrite my current computer, how can I make it recognize my hardware? I'm not a computer tech of any kind, but I can follow directions if there's some book or website that explains step-by-step.
That depends on your location. In Europe, Tuxedo Computers or Slimbooks are possible. in the USA e.g. System76 devices. But in general, these providers also deliver outside of their own borders. You just have to check for yourself whether they also deliver to your country. You can also check if your current hw is useable for Linux. Some distros have a hw database for that: ubuntu.com/certified
Switched to Garuda OS. Absolutely the best OS I've used, linux or windows. Plasma desktop with many gui helpers and customizations. Never will touch Windows 11.
Copilot is very easliy removed from the OS. Only the most basic user can't figure out how.
@@luiseduardo1458 Why is it absurd? you just want to install an OS and everything is just perfect that the Apple sales lines.
could be readded during windows update
@@joshallen128 so remove it. i check every update what installed just like i check every Reno the work done. it a basic life skill
With terminal?
This won't increase Linux users even if Microsoft is spying using all your data and information
People complain about Microsoft but still will use it probably stay on Windows 10
I wiped W10 and using Linux I'm happy with most people won't do it
I tried Linux many times, but I gave up, it was surprisingly easy to break a Linux distro. At the end, I switched to MacOS, also a unix-like rock-solid operating system, but is easy to use. The GUI of MacOS is beautiful, with expensive usability research behind it, unlike Linux, where everything depends on the taste (or lack of it) of the developer and can look amateurish. And the build quality of macs is on another level.
Apple spies on you more than microsoft and restricts what you can do as well.
Crapple ifruitcakes are g h e y toys
I'd suggest still trying to learn Linux anyway. I've found it much more stable now than say ten years ago, and each year it gets better. You can also run FreeBSD or other Unix-like OSes with most of the same software Linux can run.
That's true, it is basically unix underneath and a well thought out UI on top, some truly excellent apps and seamless integration with any other apple devices. The trade-off for that is Apple's boot forever on your neck. You do only what Apple allows you to do unless you exert maximum effort. I've been in the Apple ecosystem for years and it's a beautifully gilded cage. I'm trying to get out now... it's a hell of a web to untangle.
It's also surprisingly easy to break a windows distro. One thing called Windows Update comes to mind..
Normal users don't care. They will stick to Windows no matter what. I'm already seeing a lot people on Facebook and Reddit say "I will always stay on windows no matter how bad it is. Linux sucks"
For people like us, we will switch. But normies do not respect themselves as individuals and they will let Microsoft have their way.
Most of the normies signed up for the safe & effective eugenics program.
Switch To Linux: That's A Good Joke, By The Way... Because Everyone Knows The Only Reason 95% Of Users Aren't Using It Is Because Of That Stupid Terminal And The .Exe Files Not Working. Like Windows And Mac, They Just Let You Run Everything, No Need For That Wine Or Bottles Thing. If They Just Got Rid Of That Terminal Nonsense And Made It Run All The Regular Programs, Then Maybe, Linux Wouldn't Be A Joke For People Like Me Who Just Want A Normal Computer.
How about a computer that let's you type correctly?
PrivateAgent:
That’s Rich Coming From Someone Who Spends More Time Configuring Their System Than Actually Using It. Maybe If You Weren’t So Obsessed With Your Precious Linux, You’d Realize That Typing Correctly Isn’t Exclusive To Any OS. But Hey, Keep Telling Yourself That Linux Is Better Because It Clearly Compensates For Your Lack Of Basic Typing Skills. Meanwhile, The Rest Of Us Will Keep Enjoying A Functional OS Without The Need For Lame Excuses.
@@mr.bhanndkjee2269 so you know more about my life than I do. Funny that my Linux installation has more than 6 years now and I only use it for productivity, because let's face it, one will reach a point in time in life where troubleshooting gets boring and all you want is an OS that just works. I'm almost in my 50s and cannot be arsed anymore to fiddle around Windows registry or fixing boot issues that happen out of the blue. Now I just want peace of mind, and only Linux gives me that.
PrivateAgent: Oh, I See You’ve Reached That Age Where Nostalgia Clouds Your Judgment. Funny How You Claim Linux Gives You Peace Of Mind When Most People Find It’s An Endless Cycle Of Configurations & Command Lines. If Your Linux Install Is So Flawless, Sounds Like You've Got It Figured Out!
But Let’s Not Kid Ourselves: For The Majority, Windows Is The Go-To Choice For Reliability And Ease Of Use. Most Users Have No Problem With It. If You Can't Be Bothered Managing Windows, Maybe It's Not The OS, But Your Tech Skills That Are Showing Their Age. While You Chase Your Linux Dream, The Rest Of Us Will Stick With An OS That Prioritizes Ease Of Use.
@@mr.bhanndkjee2269 was that typing software paid for by your handlers?
I like how linux users exploit every possible opportunity to ask people to migrate to Linux😂😂 and it never works because they don't realize that most people are not masochists
People are not masochists, they only do not care about their privacy and the Spyware/backdoor named windows.
Most people are low IQ sheeple, that's why crapple became a trillion dollar company, underestimating the intelligence of their customers is very profitable.
Linux has its issues but works quite well. I've moved mostly to Linux except for the odd program that needs Windows (like my large-format printer's rip software).Most "normies" wouldn't notice the difference between Linux and Windows or MacOS.
Yeah, normies gonna norm. Essentially it's Linux folks trying to remind people that ,every day, companies are stealing your freedom and privacy and convincing you they are bringing you a better world. Over time people forget why freedom and privacy is important and get lost in the shiny conveniences crapped out of Satan's butthole.
@luiseduardo1458 Sure, but when something goes wrong, troubleshooting tends to get a bit tedious.