Nice job! A few things I'd add; 1) The drain plug crush washer should be replaced after at least three oil changes, or else it can leak (they cost about $0.50 at the dealer, I keep a dozen on hand). 2) Motorcycle oil is not required in this engine, as it does not have a wet clutch or a common-lube transmission; any quality full-synthetic will keep this engine running for decades.
nice tutorial! If you lean the bike over even more while draining, you can get pretty much all of the oil out and then you will need a full 1.0 liter to replace it all. Also, I think you are supposed to let it warm up and then sit for about 10 minutes to check the oil. Remember, oil changes are extremely important as there is no legitimate oil filter...magnetic drain plug is not a bad idea as well.
@grateweb The easiest way to change the coolant is to remove the lower pump hose with the radiator cap removed. The radiator fill cap is under the dashboard; remove the dash cover (above the glovebox) to access it. ONLY use silicate-free coolant (I recommend the Honda coolant sold at the dealer; you'll need two bottles).
@SanftnerDotNet Costs me roughly $8 per oil change, using Royal Purple full-synthetic. You do not need to use motorcycle oil in this engine, as it does not have a common-lube transmission or a wet clutch.
Just got one of the clones...Q-Link Commuter 250, 10,600 miles. Thanks for the video...it's a big help. And thanks for the tip on resetting the OLM--nobody else I asked had a clue!
!!!TO RESET OIL LIGHT!!! There is a little "slit" on the rear of the speedometer cover. It's about the size of the tip of a screwdriver. Press a screwdriver into the slit to reset the oil indicator.
you all prolly dont give a shit but does anyone know of a way to log back into an instagram account? I was stupid lost the password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
@Ryker Camden Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and im trying it out atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
thank you I'm not a tech but this looks easy. I like to do little services that I can handle. Very helpful These bikes are so much fun to run around town.
thank you so much! I just bought my 93 (a cherry red beauty whom I call Christine) a few months ago and I don't know ANYTHING about it really, besides how to put gas in it x.x this video really saved me!
Thanks for the video, just did my first oil change on my "new" 86 Helix (commuting to work and saving $40 per week). I had one problem, the oil filter plug is stripped and couldn't take it off, so I just replace the oil, but didn't clean the screen. Just order a new one, now I need to figure out how to remove it.
Just think this little engine is working extra hard to do highway speeds. The 4T oil has high levels of phosphorus/zinc for a better share rate. Have you ever ran a chainsaw? The bar oil is different than motor oil. If you use Motor oil as bar oil it boils.
Saw several questions in the comments about viscosity and types of oils to use. First, from the shop manual. Recommended oil. Honda 4-stroke oil or equivalent, API service classification SF or SG. Viscosity 10W-40. That is accompanied by a chart that shows 10W-30 for temps up to 90. 10W40 for temps up to 110 and also 20W-40 also for temps up to 110. For temps up to 120 they suggest 20W-50. These would be outside temps of course...Theoretically the engine will always be the temp set by the thermostat, but it is typical to use thicker oil when it gets hotter. There is no mention of synthetic in the manual. Then I tried to find out about currently available Honda oils. That takes you to prohondaoils.com. There they have four Honda 4-stroke oils. Seems their original offering is called GN4 which was upgraded to HP4 with more additives and better viscosity. Later yet they introduced HP4M and HP4S. The M is mineral oil based. If you didn't guess, the S is synthetic. They have a chart showing using GN4 and HP4 for models up through 2006 and using the synthetic for models after 2007. It would infer you shouldn't use synthetic on earlier models but I haven't seen that 2006 vs 2007 cutoff before. I know I used Mobil 1 in my '73 CB350 and it ran like a top with synthetic. Higher revs, more power.
That's the first time I've heard anyone say synthetic oil leaves a better oil film than mineral oil. Usually I hear it said the other way around. Not sure which is correct.
I live in PA and ride this at least onec a week, to keep the gas flowing. So far the exhaust is the only problem, the smallest leak in back pressure will drop your top speed and give you back fire problems.
An old lady hit me with her Buick while I was going through a 4way so the Helix won't be in any other videos. My newer bike is a 2005 Honda Shadow 750dc. So when the weather gets better here in PA I'll make a video for that also. I still have Helix it runs prefect, just need new plastic $300.00 if you want a good cheap bike anyone.
No oil filter so there is a +. Just an oil screen, ike the old VW Beetles. The Only cost is the Oil if you have the tools. The oil I use is about $10 MOBIL 1 RACING 4T OIL. You can go cheaper, but why when you only need one bottle.
I wouldn't run 20-50 weight oil in liquid cooled engine. The pressure might blow past the piston rings. My air cooled VW beetle on the other hand has to use 20-50. 10-40 causes the engine to over heat.
I just recently purchased a 1987 Honda Helix CN 250, with just under 31,000 miles on it. The Bike runs, and performs, and handles superb for it's age, and mileage. My question for you, is why did you have to "Bump" the Starter Button when you were draining the old oil from the Crank Case ? What does that do ?
lol.....guess you're right about the squeaking. I noticed that chinese clones use lower quality plastics and are really more like slapped together and miss the distinction of japanese originals.....and btw, thanks for your oil change video. I did an oil change according to your instructions using synthetic 5W-40.
Please I need help , my heat meter have rises up to the last bar even for a short drive, please how to cool it down , do I need to put some water in the coolant or what do I have to do please I need help
@@seanstambaugh3166 I have done radiator flush , and no more using water , I use coolant .electrician set fan to ignition now temperature is down only 2bars, will the fan wire connected to the ignition cause any harm to my bike
I just bought a 1998 helix with 24,000 miles a few days ago. It' my first bike. What's the average cost to do this yourself? (A place in town told me theyd do oil for $22). Also, did I miss seeing it, or does it not have an oil filter?
I order motorcycle oil off walmart.com because it's the cheapest place I found for Mobil 1 motorcycle oil and if you order enough quarts to meet free shipping then that's the icing on the cake.
manoman0...OK the QLINK Commuter 250 is made in China as far as I can google it. There was a orginal 1st clone of the Helix that was made in Taiwan I can not remeber what that company was or is called. I have noticed every single Chinesse scooter does after about a 1,000 miles is start to sqeak and rattle some. I sure it will hold together but it will drive you nucking futs afer a while.
11 years later this video is still helping people. Thanks bro.
Nice job! A few things I'd add; 1) The drain plug crush washer should be replaced after at least three oil changes, or else it can leak (they cost about $0.50 at the dealer, I keep a dozen on hand). 2) Motorcycle oil is not required in this engine, as it does not have a wet clutch or a common-lube transmission; any quality full-synthetic will keep this engine running for decades.
Thank you. I just got a 2000 Helix and thanks to your informative video I will be changing the oil all by my girly self today for the first time : )
thanks, i am about to change my own oil for the first time on my 86 helix. i got tired of being charged 100. for an oil change.
nice tutorial! If you lean the bike over even more while draining, you can get pretty much all of the oil out and then you will need a full 1.0 liter to replace it all. Also, I think you are supposed to let it warm up and then sit for about 10 minutes to check the oil. Remember, oil changes are extremely important as there is no legitimate oil filter...magnetic drain plug is not a bad idea as well.
i just bought a 1987 with 10,000 miles. thanks for the info
@grateweb The easiest way to change the coolant is to remove the lower pump hose with the radiator cap removed. The radiator fill cap is under the dashboard; remove the dash cover (above the glovebox) to access it. ONLY use silicate-free coolant (I recommend the Honda coolant sold at the dealer; you'll need two bottles).
@SanftnerDotNet Costs me roughly $8 per oil change, using Royal Purple full-synthetic. You do not need to use motorcycle oil in this engine, as it does not have a common-lube transmission or a wet clutch.
Just got one of the clones...Q-Link Commuter 250, 10,600 miles. Thanks for the video...it's a big help.
And thanks for the tip on resetting the OLM--nobody else I asked had a clue!
!!!TO RESET OIL LIGHT!!!
There is a little "slit" on the rear of the speedometer cover.
It's about the size of the tip of a screwdriver.
Press a screwdriver into the slit to reset the oil indicator.
Mike Webb This is confusing. The slot is directly under the indicator.
Ok you can use the key =)
@@thecollegepicker it is meant for the key 👍
I did miss the indicator display, I was worried about the video being to long. I still can not believe how fast I did my 1st oil change on that bike.
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I was stupid lost the password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
@Tatum Collin Instablaster =)
@Ryker Camden Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and im trying it out atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Ryker Camden It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thank you so much, you saved my account !
@Tatum Collin you are welcome :)
thank you I'm not a tech but this looks easy. I like to do little services that I can handle. Very helpful These bikes are so much fun to run around town.
Thanks! Great simple operation to get over motorcycle noobiness.
Thanks for the information, it was very helpful for my first oil change on my 2007 Honda Helix.
thank you so much! I just bought my 93 (a cherry red beauty whom I call Christine) a few months ago and I don't know ANYTHING about it really, besides how to put gas in it x.x this video really saved me!
Thanks for the video, just did my first oil change on my "new" 86 Helix (commuting to work and saving $40 per week). I had one problem, the oil filter plug is stripped and couldn't take it off, so I just replace the oil, but didn't clean the screen. Just order a new one, now I need to figure out how to remove it.
Did you solve this issue?
9mins save $ do it yourself. Thank you for rating my video any questions just leave a comment. Thank you.
@MicroOrginisum That would be difficult, as he'd have to remove the seat and side panels.
Thank you Ray Romano, I had no idea you were into scooters.
Well done and nicely produced!
You are welcome. Hope it goes as well.
Just think this little engine is working extra hard to do highway speeds. The 4T oil has high levels of phosphorus/zinc for a better share rate.
Have you ever ran a chainsaw? The bar oil is different than motor oil. If you use Motor oil as bar oil it boils.
Thanks for the video, just got my first bike 86 Helix and loving it. I will soon do the oil change.
Yes you could like a lawn mower. I was looking at engine diagrams for your bike. There is a plug but, can't seem to find it either.
How imperative is it to use 4T oil? I just got a Helix and wanted to use some Castrol 10W-40 I had in my garage. Thanks.
Saw several questions in the comments about viscosity and types of oils to use. First, from the shop manual. Recommended oil. Honda 4-stroke oil or equivalent, API service classification SF or SG. Viscosity 10W-40. That is accompanied by a chart that shows 10W-30 for temps up to 90. 10W40 for temps up to 110 and also 20W-40 also for temps up to 110. For temps up to 120 they suggest 20W-50. These would be outside temps of course...Theoretically the engine will always be the temp set by the thermostat, but it is typical to use thicker oil when it gets hotter. There is no mention of synthetic in the manual.
Then I tried to find out about currently available Honda oils. That takes you to prohondaoils.com. There they have four Honda 4-stroke oils. Seems their original offering is called GN4 which was upgraded to HP4 with more additives and better viscosity. Later yet they introduced HP4M and HP4S. The M is mineral oil based. If you didn't guess, the S is synthetic. They have a chart showing using GN4 and HP4 for models up through 2006 and using the synthetic for models after 2007. It would infer you shouldn't use synthetic on earlier models but I haven't seen that 2006 vs 2007 cutoff before. I know I used Mobil 1 in my '73 CB350 and it ran like a top with synthetic. Higher revs, more power.
That's the first time I've heard anyone say synthetic oil leaves a better oil film than mineral oil. Usually I hear it said the other way around. Not sure which is correct.
@martyzap1 I am not sure about the Reflex. It has a different engine.
You can pass on the forum created for fans of CN 250
cnitalianforum
Thanks
When it comes to the clutch oil , is it all together and the same or do you change and fill it separately
I live in PA and ride this at least onec a week, to keep the gas flowing.
So far the exhaust is the only problem, the smallest leak in back pressure will drop your top speed and give you back fire problems.
Just bought one have the exact same problem. Do I need to replace the exhaust
Kevin. Is there anything special I need to know about changing a fuel pump on mine? I have a 99 helix 250.
An old lady hit me with her Buick while I was going through a 4way so the Helix won't be in any other videos. My newer bike is a 2005 Honda Shadow 750dc. So when the weather gets better here in PA I'll make a video for that also. I still have Helix it runs prefect, just need new plastic $300.00 if you want a good cheap bike anyone.
is the bike still for sale?
Kevin. I need help changing my 1999 helix key lock ignition switch. Please do a tutorial or a short video. Thanks again. Joseph
There is a key hole under the odomete that you push your key in. And it rests the miles.
Excuse me sir, do all Honda Helix use that same 4T 10W - 40?
And can i also use 4T 10W - 40 4 cycle motorcycle oil on my 1996 Honda Helix?
HI, How do I reset the maintenance indicator (red spot) on the instrument panel
Thanks.
No oil filter so there is a +. Just an oil screen, ike the old VW Beetles. The Only cost is the Oil if you have the tools. The oil I use is about $10 MOBIL 1 RACING 4T OIL. You can go cheaper, but why when you only need one bottle.
How do I replace the thermostat on Honda helix
what does the manufacture say when to change your oil, I have heard now 1000, miles and 2500 miles. 1000 seams a bit early..
Thank you so much for posting this on you tube, very helpfull!
I wouldn't run 20-50 weight oil in liquid cooled engine. The pressure might blow past the piston rings. My air cooled VW beetle on the other hand has to use 20-50. 10-40 causes the engine to over heat.
How do you reset the engine oil change indicator? thanks.
Hi I have a 2007 Honda Reflex 250 cc scooter. Would it be the same way to change the oil.
What type of oil do you use
My oil drain bolt may have stripped because it goes around and around, got any suggestions? Thanks!
كم لتر زيت يلزما من نوع 20w50 lead 80
hello, I have a container of oil filled to 3/4, it is enough to drain or you need a full container?
What kind of oil do I used?
i didn't understand you said to use a filer while putting oil in so you don.t lose any oil. i use a funnel
I just recently purchased a 1987 Honda Helix CN 250, with just under 31,000 miles on it. The Bike runs, and performs, and handles superb for it's age, and mileage. My question for you, is why did you have to "Bump" the Starter Button when you were draining the old oil from the Crank Case ? What does that do ?
If you don't touch the filter part and just drain the oil only from the drain plug. 3/4 of a container should be enough.
Thank You Kevin...do you where I can get or order a new gasket/o-ring for the strainer cap?
any video for the wet clutch fluid ? this for oil is great thank you
lol.....guess you're right about the squeaking. I noticed that chinese clones use lower quality plastics and are really more like slapped together and miss the distinction of japanese originals.....and btw, thanks for your oil change video. I did an oil change according to your instructions using synthetic 5W-40.
Can i please see the whole engine?
very useful thx for sharing !
You are welcomed.
Please I need help , my heat meter have rises up to the last bar even for a short drive, please how to cool it down , do I need to put some water in the coolant or what do I have to do please I need help
Thermostat Failure ?
Thermostat radiator coolant change can check to see if fans working has to be one those
@@seanstambaugh3166 I have done radiator flush , and no more using water , I use coolant .electrician set fan to ignition now temperature is down only 2bars, will the fan wire connected to the ignition cause any harm to my bike
Good video but you didn’t show how to tell when it needs changed
Is this Mobile 1 10/40 4T full synthetic?
Do you still have your Honda scooter? If so how well does that mobile one motorcycle oil work after a 1000 miles is it pretty black and dirty looking?
Hey there!! My oil lamp is all red!!!! dont know whats wrong??? changed oil a month ago
You have to push your key into the tiny hole under the oil lamp.
@@efingsandals ty:) but one of my friends alrady fixed it... your answer was exactly the solution to the problem;) thx again
Hi Kevin I have a question about the brakes could you send me a message?
I just bought a 1998 helix with 24,000 miles a few days ago. It' my first bike.
What's the average cost to do this yourself? (A place in town told me theyd do oil for $22). Also, did I miss seeing it, or does it not have an oil filter?
Great instruction video Kevin. Thanks!
Honda recommends 10W-30, you use 10W-40. Does it make any big difference?
How do you like your Helix? What is the MPG?
I order motorcycle oil off walmart.com because it's the cheapest place I found for Mobil 1 motorcycle oil and if you order enough quarts to meet free shipping then that's the icing on the cake.
I got a wildfire 2006 is the same as Honda helix
I no longer have this bike, now I have a Honda Helix much easier to maintain.
manoman0...OK the QLINK Commuter 250 is made in China as far as I can google it. There was a orginal 1st clone of the Helix that was made in Taiwan I can not remeber what that company was or is called. I have noticed every single Chinesse scooter does after about a 1,000 miles is start to sqeak and rattle some. I sure it will hold together but it will drive you nucking futs afer a while.
Good video but don’t ever crank the scooter with empty crank case- no oil
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you dont wioe because you can introdue contaminates in the oil period.