Microsoft Recall Mandatory on Windows 11 24H2
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Microsoft Recall Mandatory on Windows 11 24H2
So is Micrsoft Recall installed and running on every pc? It seems to be installed on 24H2 and is Enabled by default, which it should not be. Its running as a dependency in File Explorer. You can disable the Recall feature by using the commands below. Remember to use Recall, you would need a Copilot + PC. You activity and data is NOT being recorded in 24H2. Also Recall data is stored on the PC if you use Recall. My only concern is, why was RECALL enbled by default? Microsoft said it would be a opt in.
Commands:
Check if RECALL is enabled:
Dism /Online /Get-Featureinfo /Featurename:Recall
Disable RECALL:
Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /Featurename:Recall
Enable RECALL:
Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /Featurename:Recall
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#windows11 #recall #copilot
Wouldnt it be better just to give the option to remove the feature? Microsoft is alienating a part of its user base.
Microsoft did say it would be disbled by default, it don't look like it in 24H2
@@Britec09 microsoft lying???? never, must be a mistake!
@@Britec09 FAKE NEWS. Directly from Microsoft site:
"Security and privacy design principles
Recall is designed with security and privacy in mind and built on four principles aligned to the updates announced in June:
The user is always in control.
1) Recall is an opt-in experience. During the set-up experience for Copilot+ PCs, users are given a clear option whether to opt-in to saving snapshots using Recall. If a user doesn’t proactively choose to turn it on, it will be off, and snapshots will not be taken or saved. Users can also remove Recall entirely by using the optional features settings in Windows"
By David Weston, Vice President Enterprise and OS Security at Microsoft, September 27th, 2024
They learned in 2021 99.8% of people will believe anything no matter how stupid.
@@Britec09 Do you know if I replace windows shell and file manager, is it still running?
I just don't want the Recall code on a PC of any sort.
In no way will recall be mandatory. It's OPT-IN and if you want you can uninstall through Windows Features!!
@@JethroBodine1422NOPE. It’s a hard depedency of explorer.exe, it’s literally baked into the user interface code, and it’s going to be sitting in the background, collecting data.
Micro$oft said it’s a bug that it was able to be removed and now they do not let you uninstall it.
You either accept the spying or you move to Linux.
@@JethroBodine1422 It'll be opt-in for a period of time until they just flip the switch on and say you have to use it. I DO NOT trust Microsoft at all.
@tonywise198 Its Microsofts OS and its code is locked, not much you can do Tony, apart from using another OS.
@@JethroBodine1422 Apparently being able to uninstall recall through windows features was a 'bug' and has now been 'fixed' by Microsoft. I kid you not! 😂
With Microsoft who knows what they are up to. The other thing being said was that Microsoft had integrated Recall into file explorer.
Correct, but the problem is bigger than microsoft.
If you don't like this, just install an external USB drive for your folders!
@@Britec09 Unfortunately true.
@@LONEWOLF6523-gc3dv That doesn't stop explorer from taking snapshots. Explorer is your desktop. It's how you access everything. It's the shell.
@LONEWOLF6523-gc3dv well its not taking snap shots. Turn it off Recall in Group Policy, problem solved. So people on UA-cam are surmisings it could, but without no proof its copying data and sending it back. That would be using recall on the backend without your knowledge, which would be a foolish move from Microsoft.
5:45: "Without your consent..." Yeah, well when you install Windows (or any piece of software) you (have to) agree to a EULA, and data-collection is usually hidden somewhere in that gigantic wall of text and those points are often described in vague terms..
And oh, there are very good reasons to why OS-level data collection should be a lot scarier that say what websites does as the OS is able to monitor everything on your system, every keystroke, every website visited, every video clip played, every application run.... If, say, Facebook is used through a browser they can only spy on what you do in that browser session. Ofc. if you use apps provided by FB, Google, etc. to access their services you almost deserve to be spied upon....
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But we pay for Microsoft licence, so i will demand a refund....
Microsoft : The back door is now a Barn Door . . Also . Trust us .👀
Who do you trust? Your browser? Your ISP, Your Phone? Sites you visit? Your VPN, CCTV? the list goes on and on.
@@Britec09 Its a nightmare . 🥺
Its the time we live in.
@@Britec09 none of the above lol
@@sidensvans67 the worst part is technology I mean it’s made some people so dumb they live stream there crimes they might as well give the cops a hand written confession and cab fare to get you
I'm not concerned about Microsoft harvesting my data but what I am concerned about is if I'm putting in my debit card, credit card or bank information that my recall snapshots may be used by a criminal if my computer were to get infected by malware and viruses. Basically what I'm saying is a criminal could use the Recall snapshots to steal the users personal and financial information such as passwords, bank numbers, debit/credit card information and social security number.
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@@nobodyimportant7804 I guess he means that microsoft will not harvesting his data, because this is illegal and immoral, but a criminal has the sole propose and motivation to do it.
@@nobodyimportant7804 Yes better Microsoft than a random criminal. Like Britec09 said its not just Microsoft harvesting our data. It's like what Brian said if you're concerned about your privacy then you shouldn't be using the internet at all and just live off the grid or maybe do what Will Smith did in the movie Enemy of The State! Also thanks for the award lol! 😂🤣
@nobodyimportant7804 Your so concerned about your privacy and here you are on Social Media. 😂
@LiquidSnake690 Recall is a feature that nobody asked for. If already there is backlash, MS should take care of doing the things well, instead of giving more concerns to public.
Intel i9-14900KF/RX6900XT
Cinebench R23 test with Recall enabled: 36426
Cinebench R23 test with Racall disabled: 37676
Difference at 1350 points is a no brainer, get the trash out the door.
Don't belive me, do the test on you own pc
There's no privacy laws in the US to fight this stuff. So companies can pretty much do anything with your data. But MS seems hell bent on keeping it on your PC though
I agree.
I already have Ubuntu installed as dual boot with Windows. After this, I am turning it to single boot by showing door to windows. As a lifelong windows user, I had some difficulty switching to Ubuntu. But I have been using macOS too for a while and used ti it now.
So becoming full time Linux or MacOS user should be easy. Goodbye windows
Hope it works out for you, I myself cannot go full time Linux as it don't do everything I need and that is why a majority of people stay on Windows.
@@Britec09 Same here. I can get 90% of what I need to on Linux. The other 10% I dual boot into Windows for a bit then back out as quick as I can LOL.
@@Britec09 I feel the same way as you Brian I'm soo used to using Windows that I wouldn't be able to fully commit to using a different operating system like Linux. Plus a lot of my games only work on Windows.
Personally, I moved to Linux Mint earlier this year for similar reasons and 95% of everything I need, games, browsing, many Windows-first built applications (via Wine). However, I still do keep a VM for Windows 10 for those applications that still can't guarantee me absolutely 100% compatibility in Linux (e..g FL Studio).
Personally, I haven't missed my dual boot since. Good luck on your own journey!
@@ruseruser2227 So every game you play works on Linux even Microsoft published games and online games that require anti cheat software?
Yet some features of Windows 11 24H2 now REQUIRE Recall installed to function. Explorer for example is an area where things can be messed up. The story of Recall is that its SPYWARE. Time to bale out of Windows.
I'm using 24H2 no recall and my Explorer is working just fine and normal. I don't have a CoPilot PC thank god.
@@b9bot148 So if the code gets installed but its not run as a service (because MS decided to suspend the spyware features) at least for now, you won't see it. Where might it live if its packaged up to no longer an installable/un-installable package into 'program files' using the GUI? Did you look down inside some of the hidden folders under your user? Did MS create a NEW hidden folder or even keep it all in plain sight under the 'windows' folder tree? Is it packaged up as a series of ".dll" files?
Wait until one day in the medium term future when that classic spyware feature we all hate (screenshots and data mining before potentially uploading to somewhere entirely out of our control), gets enabled... It'll be visible then.
I tried linux yesterday. it's come along way in usability. But you do need to have a reasonable knowledge of the computing environment, about the same as the old windows XP days (remember the long driver installs and configuring-wifi etc), so people will adapt. Also Nvidia are supporting linux more, probably because they are about to battle with microsoft over AI software/hardware. A big falling out there in the future. Just need the anticheat software to be more linux friendly for the two games that need it.
@@robertjames4908 While Linux isn't perfect, that's for sure, its not leaking what I consider what I wat to keep private to third parties 'out of the box'.
There is EVERYTHING to worry about regarding the 'Recall' Malware. It's enabled by default and the average user doesn't read up on Tech news or watch UA-cam on these topics. When they need a new computer they just buy one and turn it on trusting that everything they do is theirs and won't be sent off to the mothership.
An OS is supposed to be just a means to use your hardware and software, not for corporations to spy and harvest, and it's troubling that people are just accepting it. Win10 is still awful, but people with the know-how can strip it and isolate it from Microsoft (something you should not have to do to begin with), and Microsoft caught on to this by making their malware more ingrained to their spyware OS to make it more difficult to remove.
When a company's primary focus is to design software to keep tabs on their users and keep up with the trends that combat their spying in order to counteract it... it is a warning that you are a product, not a customer.
Since Microsoft can install Recall on your computer without your permission, they can also re-enable the feature after you have disabled it. Trust Microsoft? I don't think so.
It will be 'accidentally' enabled in a regular update. Oopsie! Nevermind you can always disable it again using a Powershell script. Most people will go "a what?" and just do nothing leaving it happily running in the background.
@bob-9876 Don't use Windows then Bob.
@dingokidneys its not good that it was enabled, but people love to moan and continue to use Windows, you have a choice.
You mean all those times I made Chrome or Firefox my default browser and after major OS updates all of the sudden Internet Explorer or Edge was magically my default browser was because I forgot that I went in and set IE or Edge to the default? I thoroughly trust Microsoft never to enable (aka override) any of my system preferences.
@@Britec09 I am happily using Linux as I write this response to you. However, I have two computers, and the other one uses Windows. Unfortunately, I have several Windows apps (that I need and have been using for over a decade) that run only on Windows. Right now my Windows computer has the updates turned off and is running offline. It's a shame that MS is forcing people to abandon Windows or spend many hours trying to disable or uninstall programs or features that no one asked for and no one wants. These are the people that made MS rich, and MS is screwing them as their way of saying thanks. If I owned ten computers, nine of them would be running Linux.
I had this conversation in 1995. Workgroups was the LAST Windows I used daily. I realize others' workflows need Windows, so I'm not going to tell them that my choice is right for them.
Regardless of what's really happening here, the burden of proving MS is doing the right this is NOT on Windows users; it is on MS. Those of us who don't trust MS are not defective; MS earned their bad reputation.
I'm not a Linux or WIndows fundamentalist but Windows is getting worse and worse, more and more like a data harvesting software
Everything you do is being monitored, Alexa, Hey Google, VPN, ISP, Browsers, CCTV, Ring Doorbell, Web Sites, Mobile phones are a walking GPS and recording device. All people care about is Microsoft.
@@Britec09 It is absolutely true, everything is moving against our privacy.
We have no privacy.
@@Britec09 We have optional privacy.
@@Britec09 Of course people moan about Microsoft in this comment section, unlike Ring Doorbell or Alexa, it's relevant to the topic of the video. To employ your own logic, If you're concerned about people getting their pants in a twist about Microsoft, maybe you shouldn't make videos about Microsoft's products altogether.
Thanks for the clarification and ways to disable. I was not to concerned about Recall in WIndows. But what did concern me was, what if other nefarious people managed to use this service via exploit or malware giving them access to potentially exploit users personal details from the PC.
Conspiracy theorists will have you think its still copying all your data and sending it back to Microsoft even after you disable Recall.
I saw the title, and for at least a second or two, I honestly thought Microsoft had made it mandatory for a recall of the latest update.
Its not mandatory
I'm not paranoid about microsoft stealing my data.
Its just not right putting obvious spyware on my pc the telling me its disabled but its still on .. how is that right by you?
Also many of us would rather uninstall it but microsoft intentionally lets you not be able to do that. For what reason is this? The eu made them make it uninstallable. Bit they intentionally made it not be able to be uninstalled everywhere else. Now why is that?
The answer is obvious, they will have ot collecting data in the background. Officially its going to be that they dont and its off after typing some command in terminal wich 99% of windows user don't ever do.
Its bogus they don't want it installable because the us government gathers way more data on the world than we are being told.
Its not right by me that recall was enabled as some sort of service, but the feature is not on the none copilot+ pc as you see. You should be more worried about the phone in your pocket. Its a walking GPS and recording device.
@@Britec09 i am aware of the phones ability to know your location even without having ever connected to any internet connection.
I am not paranoid of that neither of the backdoor in windows and mac os.
I just simply want Microsoft's recall to be fully uninstalled from my pc if it is or was on my pc at any point in time.
I may have to grab an eu iso when i upgrade from windows 10.
Also the fact that snapshots are enabled even when you disable it in gui is cause for concern and drama.
Hopefully turning it off works, I don't want recall, horrible idea by Microsoft.
@@Britec09 I know of no channel on any platform that has something good or positive to say about recall.
This is the worst piece of software i have personally ever known. The only thing worse than this is china's surveillance state. Cameras everywhere in the big city's.
Whats makes recall a good comparison is that it has the potential to be in all countries making it able to surveillance all governments and citizens in every country. Much like how china is surveiling china. Good thing its only on certain PC's...
Recall will create the greatest honeypot in history inside of Azure. It has become a much bigger target. Whether or not you trust MS is irrelevant - its the hackers drawn to everyone's PII in one place
Why would Microsoft not allow this feature to be uninstalled ? Surely just it existing on a persons PC is a security risk, what happens if a virus/malware infects the PC and then turns this feature on without the users knowledge, I would have thought that enabling Microsoft Recall would be much easier for hackers to do than actually installing it. Also it seems to me its reminds me of when MS tried to lock internet explorer to the OS stating that removing it would destroy Windows are they using the same tactic again but this time with Windows Recall ?
MS definitely have a path to monetisation in mind. My guess is via targeted ad delivery. They don't have to send all your data home to do this, just run an ad delivery service on your machine that harvests data from Recall.
What worries me even more is what scammers will do with this 'feature'. They already socially engineer people to permanently install remote access software. Just a small step further to get their mark to activate Recall. Then they can come back on the regular to scan for nice things like banking credentials and their mark doesn't even have to know they are there.
@@dingokidneys- For me it just seems too a high a risk to even have it created, it just makes me wonder if one or more of the 3 letter agencies are influencing/compelling MS to have this type of application/service running on peoples Windows machines, Britec seems to have softened his attitude towards Recall and even stated "if you are still worried about Microsoft harvesting your information then maybe you shouldn't be on a Windows based system altogether and go and install Linux Mint" which is a different attitude to what I was expecting him to say. It almost seems as though Britec has realized that no matter what he says most people are not knowledgeable enough about Windows to understand what MS are upto and to be pretty honest I agree. Sadly you cannot make people computer experts, most people just want an easy life. The sad fact is that MS is able to get away with what they are doing because lets say 90% of users are lacking the understanding (not the intelligence although sure are are lacking that) and the rest are just putting their head in the sand and going with the herd mentality without questioning it because they are in disbelief that MS would do something so dumb. For me as a Linux user since when MS launched Win 10 since I saw the writing on the wall even back then, yeah Linux Mint was ok but I use POP-OS from system76 on a very High AMD Gaming system (7950X, 6950XT, 96Gb RAM) yup I said gaming system because although it might not be quite as fast as Windows (probably 10% slower) its not enough to warrant giving up my personal data to even if it was 50% slower, I am just stubborn that way.
in a word. "Nightmare"
If it was copying data, yes it would be a nightmare, but its turned off and not collecting data and sending it back to Microsoft.
@@Britec09 correct but it was doing something before we disabled it what was that something an why aren't we allowed to see what that something is. I know these are questions we don't have the answer to yet but we can certainly see why this would be making users ask these questions.
This is why i'm subbed, Thanks Bri! 😊😊
You're the best!
Windows is overreaching and you know it Brian.
If you don’t like the Gestapo maybe you should just hide under the floorboards.
Thank you for putting the commands in the video notes. This will be very helpful.
You are welcome!
Not trusting Microsoft with your data doesn't mean you are paranoid, it means you are wise. Thank heavens for the regulatory power of the EU.
Paranoid is when you beleieve all the conspiracy theory about Microsoft and most is just hate. Don't like or trust windows, use something else.
@@Britec09 I use multiple OSes, but can't ditch Windows completely because of work. I don't hate Microsoft specifically. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But big tech has a bad record on privacy and it's getting worse. Others then exploit their invasion of our privacy, especially in countries where regulation is weak, but elsewhere too.
Wow... Thanks for this. I have already disabled it
Nice
We are not customers, just data points.
everything you do on the web collects data.
@@Britec09 Going on the internet is like going out to town. But what happens on your desktop is akin to what's in your house. I don't want them to have the ability, because, if they can, they will.
Now u can uninstall copilot now on 24h2 tho I think u should be able to uninstall what you want
Copilot is junk
Might be mandatory but Windows is not. Recall is hidden, need to use dism to find it.
Not hard to disable it
Is it not a service that you can simply disable?
@InBodWeTrust So your implying Microsoft are using Recall without your consent and copying all your data and sending it back to Microsoft? because that would be a criminal act and could be suable in court
@@Britec09 Microsoft's actions imply it, they promised after the earlier backlash that it will never be activated by default, then I checked mine after a new install and there it was and enabled, I had to use dism to locate the program since they hid it.
@@Britec09 Eh? How on earth did you get that line of thought from what I typed? I made no such assertion or implication at all. Not everyone wears a tin foil hat you know! 🙄
Recall Feature is only coming to copilot plus pcs or the non copilot pcs will also have this feature ?
Edit:
just watched your video and disabled it on my intel 14700k desktop pc using command prompt as administrator and thank you for putting the command lines in the description.
if that was true then we would not be finding it on our noncopilot pc's running process'es in the background. clearly the command found that it is indeed there on our noncopilot c's and is indeed enabled an running process'es in the background. How do we know that the command to disable isn't just placebo to make us think it's disabled when it's really not. It didn't put itself there. I have a noncopilot pc that is 4 years old and the command found that the feature is indeed enabled on my pc. explain that.
@@billyguthrie3176 Excellent point .
Will be looking for the update whereby the disabled features are enabled again when updates are done....
Possible, but I doubt it
Ding ding ding.
Of course it ll be re enabled in future updates. In Microsoft hystory there are nuumerous instances when they operated w mallicious intent, they sued ppl used as tool of the gov to gain monopol on the market.
Now Linux one excellent system which now comes in various Operating systems distributions is excellent and Free! And open source. So nO microsoft will not leave any Opt Out of being spyed on. They aleays collect your Data. Cause they have the system Approving their ways, so they will go to lose. EVERYBODY GIVE UP on Windows Billy the creep can foff
I mean no disrespect and have been a long-time fan of the channel. I’m not trying to start conflict or cause any trouble by stating the following.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist or a “nutter.” Rather, I consider myself a realist-someone who tries to look at situations objectively, without bias, and who bases opinions on facts and evidence. It’s important to acknowledge that large corporations, while offering great services, also have their own interests, which might not always align with user privacy.
You mentioned that Microsoft wouldn’t harvest user data because they don’t have permission. However, in the deep dive research I’ve been doing to understand why my CPU is suddenly unsupported (forcing me to roll back to Windows 10 and do a fresh install), I discovered something in the user agreements that everyone who uses Windows must accept.
These agreements state, quite clearly, that by agreeing, the user authorizes Microsoft to access and review any data stored within the Windows operating system. So, people who raise concerns about privacy aren’t being paranoid-they’ve simply taken the time to read and understand the fine print in those agreements.
I look forward to future videos. Thanks for all the work you put into producing these great resources. -Jason Burchell
Hi Jason, no disrespect taken, I made a community post today on UA-cam explaining my stance on Recall. My simple answer to people who don't trust Microsoft or there OS, is don't use it. I understand Microsoft harvest data, but some people spread misinformation and say things that they have no proof to back up there claims. We have no privacy in 2024, peroid. This is not a debate for the comments section and open to voice chat on my discord server as I have always mentioned.
Okay, but what about the regular updates. Will it not be activated again?
Once disabled it should be off
That ussually happens only with upgrades, once a year.
@@Britec09 But it isn't, the update is still laying there, if you accidentally turn off or restart the PC the update activates.
Microsoft: Oh dear. Our latest update just enabled Recall on every system that will support it. Never mind. People can just turn it off again using this Powershell command.
90% of Windows users: Meh. I don't know what that means. Just forget about it.
Microsoft:
@@dingokidneys I've since installed a lite version of Windows, no bloatware, seems to be working fine so far, nit had any probs.
Microsoft likely is disabling Cortana because people aren't using it. They're likely to do the same for Recall. It puts a demand on the system resources.
Perhaps this is exactly what MS wants. People not using Recall and forget that they have it.
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, Bill? I don't need recall, but I wonder why you do?
Microsoft did say with won't be enabled by default on copilot+ pc, but it looks like Microsoft changed there mind as always.
@@Britec09 It is enabled by default. It can't be disabled, it's too integrated into explorer, the shell.
Yes, but it don't mean its harvesting data and I don't want Recall.
So if you can use it only on copilot plus pc's then why does it need to be on non copilot pc's at all? Whats it doing in the background if there is nothing shady about it then how come we can't see the background process'es it is running to see what it's doing. Why did they not tell us up front that it would be there if they aren't up to something shady? Clearly if it was a dependency then when we disabled it it would cause the pc to either not function correctly or not function at all but this is not the case.
Because it was enabled, don't mean Recall was collecting data, if it was, why was there no data stored in locations it stores data? unless your suggesting its collecting data in background and sending it to microsoft, if that was the case, Microsoft did not hide it very well and I doubt they would use recall without users concent in the background and send data to them, that would be a massive criminal law suit against Microsoft.
@@Britec09 the only thing i am suggesting is that it isn't running process'es for no reason. If we could see those process an see what they are doing we could have a more definitive answer.
@@Britec09If secret state services are behind Microsoft, and they are certainly there, then even if Microsoft commits such
criminal acts, they will certainly not be blamed or punished... Because they work in the "state interest" for example!
@@cile_youtube You do know we have bill Gates joking in an interview last week by saying, "What do we need some sort of AI on peoples computers to block and prevent the posting and sharing of misinformation" do you think he just came up with that off the top of his head. I don't considering we have John Kerry basically suggesting the same idea to the UN like a week ago. Do people really have to go as far as finding themselves actually sitting in front of a computer with a camera on them sending them prompts telling them if you post this you will be punished before they can finally bring themselves to admit this is where they are going. It's no secret that windows has contained pretty much everything a government would need to surveille and control people for a while now. Are we supposed to assume it's all just coincidence! At what point do we stop being naive!
I wonder if this captures a virtual machine session since that virtual machine is suppose to be a separate pc?
And with court order or a warrantless wire tap, Microsoft or the government can certainly utilize this feature weather if you turned it off or not.
It is supposed to take screen shots and use AI to classify what you were doing at the time to make it easier to look things up in the future. If it's screen shotting, it will pick up what's on a VM if the VM has a graphical interface. I'm assuming that Windows is the host machine here and not just the guest VM.
For MS or the government to get access to turn it on, they would need access to your machine. They wouldn't need to rely on Recall to gather stuff on you, though it could be used for that.
What worries me more is the scammers who get remote access to people's PCs. They often install TeamViewer or Anydesk with permanent remote access. With Recall, they could then turn it on and come back later to harvest data. They already socially engineer their marks to bypass 2FA so getting their marks to validate a Recall session should be easy for them.
2025 will probably see the lowest PC sales in PC history, nice work Microsoft.
or the highest with linux/freebsd or ChromiumOS
Not fear mongering or being paranoid or a conspiracy theory. Just protecting my privacy. If you arent aware of what is happening in wider society then its not surprising you dont see an issue with this.
No, he is rightly pointing out how pointless a position this is, given the plethora of devices and services that routinely collect your data. And that’s not even your own devices, but all of those around you; I mean, don’t ever go into a shop coz their CCTV will capture you purchasing something - AAGGGHHHHHH! 🤯😂
@Design_no What privacy? you have none. You talk about privacy and here you are talking on social media 😂 You give up your privacy a long time ago buddy.
i personally have a windows pc and couldnt care less. all recall will snapshot is video games, school assignments and me talking nonsense to buddies on discord . main pc is linux, windows is the supplementary one. i think is the optimal setup if you can achieve it, because you get the native app support and gaming of windows but linux as the main driver! its so nice
The fact the option to turn recall snapshots on or off, does not always mean it is not still taking snapshots, this is a service that needs to removed (permanently) from all devices, and it should be classified as spyware by the anitivirus community.
Well my main reason it should be disabled and have the option to disable, especially if you can’t even use it, is to not have an unnecessary resource running in the background using up your resources.
You can delete system32 but not Recall. Make it make sense.
There was a time you could not uninstall cortana, but you can now. Microsoft will do what they want with there OS, nothing you can do apart from use another OS
OK ,so I don't have (thank God) a Copilot+ PC , yet you're saying 'recall' will be installed with the 24H2 update , it just won't be able to 'do anything' , but what about the fact as you mentioned , it will be running 'in the background' thus using system resources however little they might be.You're OK w/something you can't use (nor do most ppl even want) to be 'running in the background' regardless of if you have Copilot+ PC or not ?Isn't Windows 11 bloated enough as it is?That's a 'non-issue' to you? PS I hope MS is paying you something , at least a Burger King coupon here and there for all the excuses you come up with.
QUESTION FOR Britech09! Why can't you just install something like DO NOT SPI 11 and disable its access from there??
You can do what ever method works for you.
It is completely illegal. I permanently not to use Windows 11
I'm on Windows 10 and have no recall problems. My PC works perfectly fine. No need for all this garbage running on the background. You should be able to have the programs you want on your computer. I'm not currently interested on upgrading my Windows 10, once they drop support I might upgrade to Linux all together. I'm currently testing and running Zorin OS and Linux Mint on my laptop to see which one wins for my taste and needs once Windows 10 is no longer supported. Unless someone like Chris Titus finds a way to strip the Recall features with his toolbox, then I might consider upgrading when I have to leave Windows 10. Until then, Windows 10 it is. If not, then like I said, I might switch to Linux for every of my computers. My main computer can run Windows 11 with no problem, it ain't unsupported either, I just don't want all this garbage on my PC that I don't want, need or have no use for. You should be able to decide what programs and features you have installed or not. And disabling it is not the actual solution, because it is still on your computer, and Microsoft might choose to re-able it with a update, like they can decide to enable it mandatory on 25H2 for example. No thanks.
I’m in the same place you are with Win10. It does what I need it to do for Windows. I am forced to use Win11 at work and so I am able to compare the two. Win11 is “pretty” as they obviously put a lot of effort into the look and feel of it. However with the exception of the tabs in File Explorer, there is nothing about Win11 I prefer. Settings are harder to find, it takes more clicks to get to the same place, and honestly I feel like some applications are less stable on Win11 than Win10. In the end I have no plans to mover beyond Win10. I have a Mac Mini and a MacBook Pro for now to get me the software I need that doesn’t run on Linux, like the Affinity suite. In the meantime I’m learning my way around Zorin OS and Mankato KDE to become my new daily drivers when Win10 is out of support. For gaming, I may consider paying for Win10 support but I am going to remain that Linux support and emulation get us to a point where there truly are good alternatives to Windows for most users.
@sfoldy I'm trying both Linux Mint and Zorin OS on my laptop, but honestly I'm liking Zorin OS more, even though either one is a great choice for Switching to Linux from Windows.
If it is not running by default then why Microsoft put it in there then?
They knew customers did not wish to have it in the system and I think I heard a court told Microsoft not to install it at all, as that be against the law covering Customers right not to have systems or software forced on their PC's and only the customer had the right to ask for the service to be installed because it's their PC not Microsoft's and the private laws forbid software being used to take information of users without them wishing it to.
Data Protection Act covers that sort of forced taking of users data without their knowledge? So Microsoft should not installed it in the 1st place as that is illegal.
With very few exceptions, anything that is installed can be removed or broken sufficiently to prevent it from operating.
I know Microsoft feels this is a win for them probably to use to help train their AI but my strategy is to simply do everything important on my iPad and leave everything else that doesn’t matter like games for my PC With Windows as close to how I can tolerate it as possible.
Excellent video, very informative. That is why I always recommend your channel (videos like this one).
I appreciate that!
@@Britec09 No worries.
A while ago I turned on my PC and there this 'copilot' I didn't want it, well it took me a while to get rid of it, you make it sound it's Ok don't worry kind of thing but its on MY pc and I didn't want it.
If I put a program on your PC without your say so you would be annoyed, then I said just disable it but you can't take it off, you would be more annoyed.
Now if Windows advertised it and let you see it on a video then asked if you want it then click this download fair enough, but to just put it on and it stays there is out of order.
I'm now running a lite version of Windows with no bloatware, I do have Linux Mint on another PC as well, your attitude of if you don't like it you shouldn't be on Windows and go and get a Linux machine is a bit off if you ask me.
Does Windows Recall save sounds and videos?
Just another reason why I rarely use Windows anymore. Linux is my go to operating system. I only use Windows for a couple of games that work better in Windows versus Linux.
But you still use Windows
@@Britec09what do you want I don't get it, "you still use windows" they have fckin monopoly at some point of time you will have to use it. You hate linux and its community that's fine, you're fine with everything getting logged while most users will try to minimize it, that's the goal in today's world rather than ya take everything.
@@Britec09I only use 2 apps that require Windows. Otherwise it would be out the door. End of.
Thank you for clearing up this issue!
Will we be able to disable the keylogger software they plan on installing too?
Do you think Google havests your data? but here you are on UA-cam, stop blaming Microsoft for everything. Look deeper into privacy and your soon realise you have none.
If you do not have a Copilot+ PC then what's the point of having this enable on every PC? I know you don't care. It makes no sense to have something enable or even installed doing nothing. It has to be doing something. I will wait for Chris Titus to fix this.
Ask Microsoft, its not my operating system. I don't want it on the pc either.
It's getting to a point where 60% of the code in a Windows installation could be classified as "Potentially Unwanted Programs", as anti-virus software classifies it.
Just imagine how snappy, responsive and resource efficient a Windows installation could be if it didn't have to run all this miscellaneous crap.
Yep, tried the same program I used in windows on linux. The difference was plain to see, much more snappy and responsive, no telemetry, spying or logging going on there slowing down the system.
The actual problem is thinking of Microsoft "as a service"
Yea I am super pumped up for Recall, can't wait to try it out once I get my Ryzen 9950X3D.
recording all your sordid sites you visit 😂
But Recall does need a NPU right? It's only for what they call Copilot+ capable pc. The current Raptor lake cpus doesn't have NPU but the future Core Ultra will have.
That's true, so why Microsoft would make Recall enabled by default on a nonCoPilot PC is a bit worrying.
@@nobodyimportant7804 I agree. I gave up on Microsoft doing the right thing. I now use LInux MInt although I still have Windows on another older PC.
@@johnking8896 the same, only opposite. Linux on older and Windows 10 on newer for my wife 😄
@@johnking8896 Really? Is it enabled by default on all 24h2 anyway? (I'm still on 23h2 because of EAC incompatibility, so I don't know)
They don't even hide backdoor anymore. The backdoor is a mandatory feature.
So in essence, in the future all MS computers will come as Copilot+ and everyone will have them. This is just a transitional period that many machines don't have them now. Now tell me how many standard users will have the knowledge to make all these settings to deactivate the feature? All those elderly and lower education folks having Recall running in the background? Consuming resources and clogging up memory.
And while I am here, just a note: the whole world witnessed the Clownstrike's blunder a couple months ago and MS blamed EU from it, their fair competition policies. All countries using MS system with Clownstrike got affected. But suddenly EU has special powers to make MS comply with their specific limitations while the rest of us face uninstallable spyware? Couldn't MS do these exceptions with kernel access for EU exclusive back then too? It is obvious this feature isn't there as much for the users as it is for those out there. And you like a fish swallow the bait with a hook.
Nope, Recall is only Copilot+ PC. Yes, Recall is on 24H2, but is it fuctioning as recall should? nope, because the feature is not installed as you see. But it was enabled, which it shouldn't of been according to Microsoft, but its now disabled. So nothing to worry about. Bigger things to worry about other than Microsoft, the phone in your pocket or alexa in your house. list goes on.
@@Britec09 I don't have Alexa and my phone has minimum apps, and full AV package. I even go on youtube or fakebook solely via a browser, having a better control over what I see and what others get from me. No shopping coupons apps either. I am staying with 23 version, anyway.
But this isn't about me, as you understand. I just pointed out the MS' hypocrisy.
Shouldn't of...? You are butchering the language LOL and I am saying it as English being my 3rd language.
Your phone has minimum apps, and full AV package 😂 Your phone is a walking GPS with a device that is capable of recording everything you say 😂 I might not be the brightest bulb on the tree when it comes to english, but whos the fool? You cannot hide, get over it or live under a rock somewhere far away from civilization.
@@Britec09 Oh, get off that horse, mate. I have no illusions about privacy when it comes to electronic devices. I don't even care if FBI checks my messages, as there is nothing that would interest them. My GPS is almost always turned off and so is wifi, only turning it at home and outside using my own data. And not many people can easily triangulate my position just from my phone alone. Blocking ads wherever possible so if brokers collect my data, the companies who buy it to show me ads can wipe their rears with it. I am unimportant. Just pointed out the hypocrisy of MS, I ought to repeat. Is that what triggered you? All I want is to have some decent control over my devices and MS is not being helpful.
With it disabled it doesn't copy data but what about profiling data off-line?
Wait .. did you just say that windows would not record your information without you knowing about it ... And that you're pretty sure of it? Do you actually know what year this is and that this has been going on for years by all companies? What a junior rookie comment to make. Anyone that listens to you and takes your advise deserves whatever they get.....
Exactly. They have been collecting and selling our data for years, maybe decades. It has been proven many times over. This guy just seems like Microsoft fan boy or something at this point. It has also been proven that Recall snapshots can be accessed by pretty much anyone.
The government around the world have been listening to telephone conversations since 1950s and yet you still talk on the phone 😂
@@Britec09 And you think that what a person saves on their personal computer is equivalent to what they say while taking on the phone Honestly, you are proving my point about your channel. Keep going....
After 10 years of dual booting Windows-Linux mint, I went to 100% Windows 11 24H2 lol. Mainly because Windows 23H2 update broke my dual boot beyond repair. I disabled Recall and uninstalled Copilot, Onedrive and that's it. I'm quite happy with 24H2, everything works fine.
I feel better about this now. Thanks!
Ffs i just rebuilt my pc with win 11 this is wrong on so many levels
Just disable it
@@Britec09how many subsystems are manually disabled only to be re-enabled by "stealth" at a later date? I've lost count.
When I reinstalled Windows 10 a couple months back, copilot was enable by default on the fresh installed. You could disable it though
Some clarity at last!
I shouldn’t have to have a component or service installed if I don’t want it. Your flippant comment about take it or stuff it is insulting. Quit being such a Microsoft fanboy. If you don’t think that MS isn’t reading your data or tracking you without your knowledge is naive.
I just did a brand new clean install of my computer using 24H2. I am using my Microsoft account, although I log into that after the setup is done, and there is no recall functionality on my computer, whatsoever. Also, I did disable bitlocker after the fact.
Thanks for the information Brian!!!
Any time!
So why does Microsoft make Recall mandatory and uninstall able if they are afraid of being sued for not telling users what's going on. If people want to use it fine. But if they don't, let them uninstall it, that simple. Mandatory B.S. is NOT the answer and like I said Recall sounds like a privacy nightmare and resource hog. They will be sued anyways, I'm sure.
The code is still there... ...why are they installing something that they say wont run? .. how much of windows is installed and never runs....? ... or worse is running but has no valid use...? ....nah i dont buy it.. the code is there for a reason..... ... I for one am fed up of being data farmed...
So use Linux than, problem solved. but you probably already do 😂
@@Britec09OS level data farming and web level activity are the same in your opinion then, Amazing you're defending MSFT because they can be sued, what if they are working with the governments and will never get sued(obviously they do) anyways just wow stop defending please just stop.
It was ENABLED by default and "hidden" who knows what's being logged in closed source OS.
You're an amazing channel I watch your videos regularly because Linux is not the solution to every problem, but straight up defending Amazing.
You too?
Recall is not even a dependency of File Explorer.
It IS, Microsoft has coded that in for 24H2.
@@commentarysheep Would you prefer the alternative? More versions: Windows 11 Pro NPU.
Is this right time to upgrade 24H2 or we wait?
Why would linux users complain about an update for an os they don't use?
One reason is that many of us have to provide tech support to clueless family and friends. Windows is becoming a nightmare to manage if it's not your daily job.
I've been reading some of the comments and it seems to be a lot of disapointed windows users transitioning to linux, rather then exclusive linux users.
So is 24h2 breaking things? If so, what exactly.
Many linux users use not only linux but other os including Windows
If you are not paranoid then you haven't been watching.
Great content! Cheers from Brazil.
You're welcome.
By the way, my name is John, John Edlinger, and, I love movies, TV shows, Winnie the Pooh, and playing on the computer
thanks a lot for this tech video, i followed all your steps.
You're welcome!
So what exactly is a Co-Pilot + PC ?
This will explain things to you www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/copilot-plus-pcs?r=1
What annoys me whilst microsoft is preparing for our privacy invasion, the OS is falling apart. I tried a piece of software bugging out on windows on a linux distro and it runs fine if not better. As Frank Spencer (probably a future CEO of microsoft) would say, "In everyway and everyday, my Windows install gets buggier and buggier..."
wonder ho long it will be for the hack to remove it entirely.
Not sure it will be possible to completly remove it, but never say never. As long as you can disable it, thats all that matters, but the Linux fan boys will be claiming its still copying your activity, in the hope they get a few more users on Linux 😂
hang on, 2:40 in the EU we will be able to remove it or just disable it?
@@ShadowzGSD You was supposed to be able to uninstall it, but it looks like something has changed from Microsofts end.
The community will find a way, they always do.
I am sure an app is already doing that, plus, Group Policy that I showed works fine.
Hi Brian, thanks for the video i live in Sweden, so I have the option to uninstall the Recall feature if I buy a Windows Copilot +PC computer or another computer that meets the Recall feature requirements. But I personally think that everyone should be able to uninstall the Recall Feature if they have a computer that supports the Recall feature, regardless of what part of the world they live in. Then, I think that the Recall feature should not be on computers at all. If I buy a Windows Copilot +PC computer, one of the first things I will do is uninstall the Recall Feature. Yes, in today's world, you are tracked everywhere, more or less on all the different devices you use, so you have to live with that, but recording everything you do on the computer is going too far. Take care Brian and have a lovely evening.
Thanks for sharing
@Britec09 Hey Brian, no problem I'm happy to share my thoughts and Brian, I actually installed the Windows 24H2 update on my MSI gaming laptop. And I did a clean install of Windows 11 24H2. Windows 11 24H2 runs quite well, but obviously it still has some bugs. There will be more bug fixes soon. I'm a bit of a computer geek, but it's best to wait to install a new Windows 11 feature update. Take care Brian and thanks for your hard work i wish you a nice night in the UK.
I only use Windows for games so that doesn’t matter I use macOS for everything else
@@nobodyimportant7804 I don’t use Steam, I use a PS2 emulator
Thanks I didnt know it was running on windows 11 24h2
Is this recall feature also available in Windows 24H2 Home version?
Yes for all PC and Copilot + PC
@@jeanheonofficial Ohh.. I see, I thought this feature was not available in Windows 11 24H2 Home, and I don't need to worry about disabling it. 😅
@@Funtasters I think ReCall is included in Windows 11 24H2 Home Edition but it needs to be checked.
I wouldn't be so smug and sure about recall not activating because we don't have a co-pilot pc. Microsoft will see through this avoidance tactic and make co-pilot a mandatory requirement to run Windows 11. Eventually...
As a dedicated Linux user for 15 years I really object very strongly indeed to anyone saying that anything at all is _mandatory_ on my computer.
I performed an upgrade from the lastest 23H2 to 24H2 and RECALL is nowhere to be found...! Nor was any of the bloatware...!?! (I do not have a CoPilot type PC)
Where do you live Kevin? EU? this sounds great if you don't have it, 24H2 fully updated?
@@Britec09 UK, Portsmouth. The original Win11 install was an Unattended.xml jobbie that I learnt to do from your video of a while back. Maybe that had something to do with all the bloatware not being onboard, as I said, my new BeeLink SER5 is not CoPilot friendly, so that why the CP horror is not in attendance...lol!!!
Glad it all worked out for you.
do your store updates and then check again cause i have a noncopilot pc and info command found it enabled on mine.
@@KevT2853 I am doing my next install via the Unattended.xml file next time. I am going from 23H2 to 24H2 and pretty sure on how to do some things but others are not as clear. For example I am disabling a lot of things via Local Group Policy Editor like privacy options in win 11 because no win update can overrun these settings. Is there any way how to implement gpedit.msc settings into my Unattended.xml file upon first login? I also have quite a few tweaks like wallpaper slideslow times between slides set to 10 seconds via regitry edit etc. If I could include all of these personized settings also with win 11 setting in sigle file...... that would be like a dream come through for sure with clean install and everything set up in one run. Also saving a ton of time. Is it possible?
Well that sounds wonderful and we should believe you except when I turn off wi fi I still get current weather, stock quotes etc. Explain that little bit of magic to me.
What the hell happened in COPILOT?? They don't have CHAT HISTORY anymore..
Good advice clearly presented.
You think?
great informational video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
24H2 was the reason i kept on getting BSoD. Critical Process Died
Lobbyists won, every device, every piece of software has us grabbed by wherever hurts most.
Do you plan on telling viewers what a Copilot + PC is ?? ... i.e. the NPU requirement and the coming availability of mainstream Intel X86 desktop NPUs. ??
This comment is to everyone that might try to get me to switch to Linux you can use Linux I don't care but you're not going to convince me to switch over to Linux because I'm more comfortable using Windows and most of my games especially the games published by Microsoft works better on Windows. It would have to get really bad on Windows and even then I'll just dual boot Windows and Linux. I'll use Windows for gaming and Linux for web browsing and anything else I'm doing that might expose my sensitive and personal information.
Just as an end user, I want to know how much capacity of harddrive would I need to buy for containing all what the center putting in the pc. Practically.
24H2 refuses to see other computers on my network. Another computer with 23H2 shows 24H2 though. Same settings. Windows update keeps telling me KB504484 is ready to install. 5 times so far. It installs fine. But no restart and no error messages. I did a complete re-installation of Windows 11 with a format. Same problems.
If you don't have a co-pilot plus PC and don't disable recall is it doing stuff in the background like using system resources?