I hate how the term “conspiracy” is being used in place of “conspiracy theory.” Conspiracies are real and are a part of history. Conspiracy theories, however, are not always true.
@Uni BlackSister a big one was, titanic was heavily under insured by about 3 million dollars, so in the event of a sinking, they White Star Line wouldn’t profit but would lose money.
The door wouldn't take both their weight to keep them both out of the water. Their combined weight would mean that their bodies were still partially submerged in the freezing water. So they both would have died from hypothermia. Plus Jack's role in the story was to open Rose's eyes to her own power. He showed her a different way of life and that he liked her company for who she was as a person and not what she could give him as a trophy. His presence in her life gave her the confidence to choose her own life. He is the 'manic pixy dream girl' character. Which is refreshing to see as this role is usually fufilled by a woman to a male main character.
It's been years since I've heard someone as educated about the Titanic. My uncle told me all about all this different things when I was around 10....I just turned 35
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Cameron's movie left a such emotional psychological trauma in a point that people can not deny that story is what we seen in the movie even if facts were in front of their eyes by the emotional thinking they'll prefer to blind themselves.. Jack is Leonardo dicaprio and now is 50 yrs old, that's a fact... Jack is fictional, dicaprio is real = this is what we call fact. JP Morgan was the owner of the ship = it's a fact He didn't go in the ship = it's a fact Astor, guggeheim and Strauss were opposed to the creation of the federal reserve = it's a fact.
The planning and design of the Titanic took place on 17 September 1908. In 1898 a book was written by Morgan Robertson "The Wreck Of The Titan". The book describes a huge passenger ship named Titan: Both collided with an iceberg in the North Atlantic due to excessive speed and both ships had too few lifeboats. Both were launched in April and their disasters happened in the same month. Both were the largest ship afloat. The Titan was described as one of man’s greatest works. The Titanic was deemed unsinkable and a wonder of its era. Both had a displacement of 45,000 tons. Both had three propellers and two masts. Another ship named Titanian in 1935 also had an encounter with an iceberg. You can believe in weird coincidences or prophesies... or something happened on purpose.
It`s certainly weird that someone writes a book in 1898 and describes more or less in detail the Olympic Class of ship that wasn`t even designed until years later. J P Morgan didn`t own the White Star Line until 1902.
The truth is often quite simple, the captain was under constant pressure to make the maiden voyage newsworthy and thus leading an experienced captain to make unfortunate decisions + the ship’s aesthetic beauty being prioritized over proper safety features.
Just like the Batman theater shooter who's ad was going to testify against the largest theft in world history, liborg stole 30trillion from common economy,.. if you stood to lose30 trillion it's sloppy for the other 2 shooters to leave theor masks outside thoug, probavly almost got caught loke mossad dancing when the towers got hit
@@joemama1691 It is always 'maybe' with conspiracy theorists. The argument seems to be 'The fact that there is precisely no evidence to support the theory proves that it must be true.' Quite invincibly daft.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 lol conspiracy theorists was coined by the CIA. Looked it up and why should I blindly believe anything when there’s evidence that contradicts the narrative. I don’t think thinking critically is a bad thing and being open to new evidence or ideas. You can’t help being condescending or belittling because you have been propagandised your whole life.
Saw a convincing documentary that theorised that the likely cause of Titanic's demise was that a cold weather mirage obscured the iceberg from being seen by the lookouts until they were nearly on top of it. The crew thought they would see a large object like that much further away and thus have plenty of time to turn. The documentary also said that the binoculars wouldn't have made a difference, since binoculars were usually used for examining objects not spotting them.
That’s very interesting! Although something id like to add, I really don’t remember where I saw this so don’t trust me lmao, its theorized that the Titanic already had a leak or crack by the time that it hit the iceberg and that could be why the ‘unsinkable ship’, sinked easily.
Correction. The Olympic actually was said to be at fault for the accident, so that's the reason they couldn't get a payment. I actually think the theory is plausible. Even if the insurance payouts were different amounts, they'd probably rather have a smaller payout than lose all the money by not having a sailable ship. Also, just because you see a group of people work on things doesn't mean you really care about what they are doing. You just assume they are working.
But the problem is both ships were very much sailable/ seaworthy at the time of Titanic’s maiden voyage, not to mention a sinking like that especially on a NEWER ship would have hurt the reputation of the white star line more than just having the already damaged older ship sink as itself. Not to mention the time frame where the conspiracy states that the switch happened was not even enough time to truly switch everything needed, you’ve got to remember that everything on these ships were stamped with the names of the ships everything from plates, door frames, chairs, lifeboats, life jackets, etc. Not to mention all of the changes to the interiors, rooms would have to be moved, new spaces would have to be made, new walls would have to be put up, all in all not even the switch is possible.
@@Johnathan04 Would they really need to do that much of a switch? I mean, who would be able to verify that in 1912? Was everything that universally stamped with the name? I don't doubt there was a lot of it, but I'm a little hesitant to say it was basically everything. If they had a whole new crew, I don't think having a similar interior mattered. It's not like they could research pictures of them on the internet. I think it's possible, but who knows? I definitely could be wrong. I think the weakness is that the theory is too broad and doesn't specify individuals.
excuse me are you the expert have you studied the titanic for 5 years do you know alot about the titanic No you don't so shut up and let the expert which is me handle this
The theory is definitely plausible but seeing as the Olympic got turned into a troopship for world war 1, I think someone would have definitely noticed if it was actually the Titanic.
Right, yet this you tuber talks about a huge gash down the side. It was a series of five small punctures, combined with a coal fire that had been burning in the hull way before launching. The titanic should have never left due to safety reasons.
I heard that there was already a fire in the boiler room of the Titanic before it set sail. Then the weakened area in the hull from the fire is where the iceberg struck. Thank you for a very informative video.
@@fanclub3528 thank you so much for your reply. I heard that they did have binoculars but they were locked up. I have heard a lot of other things about the ship as well.
@@rmsteutonic3686 yes, I know what the word means. Doesnt mean I believe an such "debunking" to be valid at all. The idea that the Clinton Family has killed several tens of people is also "Debunked" but blatantly the truth
Even with all those theories, I'm still blaming the people who called the ship "unsinkable". They cursed that ship with that word and then some block of ice prove them wrong.
I don’t know the full story of the titanic. All of those theories could in fact be wrong. However, I can say with full confidence in my heart that the story of the Titanic is not completely true. I know that there’s more to the story than what we’re told. No doubt in my mind.
I find it interesting how other ship wrecks where people didn't make it nobody bats an eyelash at divers disturbing the area but nobody wants anyone to bring up anything including the ship under the claim it's a burial ground. I always thought it was odd. But I'm willing to bet it's to keep her secrets safe down there on what exactly happened.
@@thetruth5483 Would you care to supply a source that confirms your claim? Guggenheim and Astor had never expressed any opinions about the Fed., whilst Straus supported the idea. I can provide you with details of two articles in the New York Times from October 1911 supporting this fact. Can you provide any contemporary source which contradicts it?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Fed started less than a year later and all 3 men aboard the ship were innovative investors, not oil guru's, not auto manufactures. Investment Bankers that can shape how the world is dictated to this day.
Britannic's original name was Gigantic, and was larger then Titanic and Olympic, but after Titanic sank, the white star line decided that it would change the name out of respect and to keep passengers coming. Britannic sank during world war one as a hospital ship in the Mediterranean sea, never having seen a single paying passenger. She most likely hit a mine, as the custom at the time was to not torpedo hospital ships, as they were designated such by giant red crosses on their side and a distinct white paint job
there is very little evidence that the name "gigantic" was ever going to be given to the ship. perhaps it was a name tossed around but it just never stook
@@mauretaniafan1133 theres already evedence of it not being Gigantic since theres a yard book showing alot of the ships ordered at that time in the ship yard in 1911, Hull number 433 has already been Named “Britannic” so it kills the fact of it being Named by Gigantic and i also dont see White star naming the ship that, since it only says that the ship Is Huge despite the fact that she is not even the largest ship in the world While Britannic is more strong its like a prideful name its like saying shes the Pride of britain ship building.
@@Brandon_093The Britannic was the same length of the Titanic, but it was wider by a few feet to accommodate a double hull. It also had an aft superstructure, which likely increased its weight by a lot. Britannic was nearly 1000 tons heavier.
People constantly bring up the number of lifeboats but rarely bring up the fact that the lifeboats weren't meant to carry all passengers at once. The purpose of the boats were to ferry people from the sinking ship to a safe ship (or to land, had either been close enough), drop those people off, then come back for the other passengers. They were never meant to carry all the passengers at the same time. They never expected to sink in the middle of the ocean with no ships or land nearby to ferry passengers to. Had there been a safe place close by to drop passengers off, the boats likely would have gotten all of the passengers off before the ship sank.
No, the British Maritime Board specified a certain NUMBER of lifeboats be carried, but as ships became larger, they never changed that number to match the number of PASSENGERS being carried.
@@hotmessjess1849 nearby vessels. It was believed that on the north Atlantic route there would be enough other vessels due to it being one of the busiest routes at the time
My great grandfather told me that he was one of the men on the team employed to switch over the titanic and the olympic with each other, I believe he was telling me the truth and he passed about 30 years ago
Wow I thought this for a long time that this may have happened, your grandfather telling you this mate proves that this happened, insurence purposes to keep white star line in business
Hi, that's interesting what you said about your great grandfather. Researcher John Hamer who spent 3 years looking into the switch theory said he has been to Belfast and has spoken to families of descendants of workers who worked at Harland and Wolff who told him that they believed the ships were indeed switched and that it was common knowledge in Belfast and even dock workers in Liverpool. No idea who these families he spoke to where though as he has never mentioned their names. John himself also believes Titanic was switched with Olympic. I have spent some time myself looking into the switch theory and have looked at many photos, but despite all the evidence regarding Californian having stopped for no reason that night and all the other odd things which may suggest a pre planned sinking, I have not found any evidence which prove that one ship became the other.
You're absolutely right. If they wanted to gain insurance money, they wouldn't have killed 1500 people, because this ruined White Star Line. I'm pretty sure it would've been a small accident somewhere close to a port and the Titanic would be a hotel/museum today, like the Queen Mary Ship from Long Beach California. This tragedy was not planned.
They actually have an answer for that. There was another ship that was supposed to be nearby to help, but something something *no evidence* it never showed up or something.
@@bradensorensen966 The supposed, intended rescue ship theory is where things get confusing. Some have stated that Californian had nowhere near enough space to accommodate even half the passenger and crew numbers, some state a maximum of 100 people, others say only about 46 people. If that is true then surely there must have been another rescue ship planned to pick up passengers and crew, then again why would Californian go to the trouble of having 3000 woollen blankets and jumpers on board for all those potential passengers when most of them wouldn't have been needed, or where the crew going to throw a couple of hundred of them across to the other rescue ship or ships?.
The plan was for the California to rescue the passengers but the binoculars were put in a safe and th wrong flares we're sent it was supposed to be red and white a signal for the California to rescue them
@@josephyost6060 I've heard about that as well, and even if it were true it still doesn't mean there was a switch of the ships. Maybe Titanic (the real Titanic) was sunk for another reason, maybe it had nothing to do with the insurance scam maybe Morgan was so intent on getting rid of Astor, Guggenheim and Straus that he ordered a brand new ship to sink. There is another theory that suggests the whole event was a hoax. Why didn't the ship seen sailing past as she was sinking not bother to help, if say it was there to help with the rescue? it makes no sense even when you consider the pre-planned sinking. Was this ship or ships ordered not to get involved? if so why and by whom? or did the capt of this ship think they didn't need assistance?. So many questions but no answers, and that's before you analyse all of the photos of Olympic and Titanic and notice that there's no evidence of a switch at any point between Sept 1911 (after the Hawke incident) and March/April 1912 when Titanic left Belfast for Southampton.
The documentary about the switch contains a lot more information which could be quite compelling if true. For instance, the Titanic's insurance was increased the week before it set sail. A claim of $12.5m was paid out by Lloyd's of London - a mere 5 days after the accident...
Unfortunately, for the conspiracists, Titanic's insured value was always £1 million. It was never increased, and remained at £500,000 less than her building costs.
This is untrue and there is literally no evidence to back this claim up at all. Lloyd's records indicate that Titanic was insured, like her sister, for £1,000,000/$5,000,000. Ismay testified as much at the Senate Inquiry, as did Philip Franklin, VP of IMM. Additionally, Franklin also testified that "Commanders are reminded that the steamers are to a great extent uninsured and that their only livelihood, as well as the company's, depends upon immunity from accident. No precaution which insures safe navigation is to be considered excessive." As well, all White Star captains received a letter of instruction that instructed them to be safe and watchful because "the blow which would be inflicted to the reputation of the Line, secondly, from the pecuniary loss that would accrue (the Company being their own insurers.), and thirdly, from the interruption of a regular service upon which the success of the present organisation must necessarily depend."
@@Justin1an They didn't launch the life boats until an hour after the iceberg hit. It would take around 30 mins by hand to set up, load and launch each lifeboat. Not all boats did get off. Collapsible A and B never even got hooked up to be launched. Also even if there is enough lifeboats. Boats that came after Titanic, they couldn't even launch lifeboats due to to the angle of the list during sinking. Lifeboats were originally used to transport passengers between ships.
Titanic had something like 2hrs or little over. How long do you think it takes to lower a lifeboat ?? 🤔 Nevermind the fact that Titanic also had Collapsible canvas boats.
@@MrSniperdude01 Keep in mind it was 1912 and it was all done by hand. It was around 10 mins alone to prepare and to crank the lifeboat in position to even load the boats. Look at the documentary Titanic: 20 Years later and James Cameron demos it.
@@rebellonedog Doesn't matter if they had lifeboats. It was so cold that night people lost hope of survival. People didn't board lifeboats because they were afraid that someone would find their frozen bodies adrift at sea.
@@emf49 This one needs a decent movie to really open it up. There are some that would like to do it but fear it would not be a box office success, and also would meet with considerable opposition.
The most famous theory I heard about had something to do with the Federal Banking Reserve because there had several of the richest persons at the time on the ship
JPM warned his fellow colleagues the ship was going down. He was not about to take a loss on the ship wrecked multiple times before the titanic, so he hiked the insurance and got the crew to sink the ship. While promising them all that he had another steamer set to be in the area for fast rescue. The titanic never sank.
I believe that it was the Olympic that sank, not the Titanic. There is actual proof that every ship in that line have their name carved into them with 4 ft. letters. But yet in a video of the sunken "Titanic" it clearly showed that there were riveted letters on the sides of the ship that spelled out Titanic. Two of the letters has fallen off to reveal the carved in letters M and P next to each other. Titanic surely does not have and M or a P in its name. But one ship did.... The Olympic. Further more, why would riveted letters be there when the name of the ship was already carved there? Hmmmm, sounds like a conspiracy to commit fraud to me. The video that proves what I am saying is on UA-cam.
1:28 I just watched Titanic 1997 version yesterday and i vividly remember the scene were they weren't filling the life boats to compacity.I heard one guy say the life boats were treated by 70 Irish men.70 people multiplied by 20 lifeboats should've saved at least 1400 people. Just thought I'd mention that.
Titanic carried 14 lifeboats capable of carrying 65 people each, 2 cutters each capable of holding 40 people, and four collapsible boats capable of holding 47 people. 18 boats were launched, and the last two collapsibles floated off as she sank, one upside down.
The ship absolutely would not have survived a head on collision. Hitting that iceberg at such a speed would warp the entire ship, sinking it faster and killing maybe everyone
i have seen people say this is debunked, but there is so much evidence for this. I have seen people use smaller, slower, naval ships as evidence but the difference between titanic and some tiny little freighter was massive.
this is ridiculous. and the reason for less lifeboats was back then they were simply meant to ferry survivors to a waiting ship and return for more. there was no legal requirement for there to be enough for everyone. had a ship been close enough, they would have had enough. lifeboat regulations changed after this
JP Morgan was the major investor of the White Star line, he had a personal suite on Titanic complete with bespoke adaptations, he was basically the owner, present at her launch but he cancelled his sailing last minute because "he instead remained at the French resort of Aix to enjoy his morning massages and sulfur baths". So his pride and joy centrepiece of the global cruise line industry's maiden voyage but he preferred to go paddling ? Beats ice cold drowning I suppose, JP Morgans close friend and business associate steel baron Henry Clay Frick also cancelled his sailing, again last minute, his wife sprained her ankle ?? Insurance job that surprisingly killed the richest man in the world at the time, John Jacob Astor IV, financier, and major vocal opposer of a central national Federal Reserve, the idea of the aforementioned banker Mr Morgan ? Yep, all sounds totally reasonable and legit, absolutely nothing to see here...
Morgan never intended to sail in Titanic. There are even newspaper reports from March 1912 stating what he intended to do instead. More people cancelled from Olympic's maiden voyage than did for Titanic's. Astor was never a vocal opponent of the Fed. Neither he nor Guggenheim had ever expressed any opinions at all. Straus had, however. He was a supporter. Insurance job? Not a smart one, White Star received £1 million for a ship which cost £1.5 million to build, and lost their reputation for safety at the same time. Do try harder!
Oddly, your most recent post :- 'doveton sturdee and that is how you shut down an over opinionated know it all, no rebuttal ? Really must try harder !!! ' Hasn't appeared on here, only in my inbox. However :- As I have corrected the most obvious errors in your earlier post, how much more do you need? Perhaps the fact that the Federal Reserve Plot theory dates from the 1990s, or the dates of the newspaper articles relating Straus' speech in favour of the Fed.? Actually from October, 1911. You could even look up Astor, Straus, & Guggenheim for yourself, and see what the facts really are. Or the date of the newspaper article confirming that Morgan intended to be in Venice? Bruce Ismay actually used Morgan's suite instead. Do you suggest that Ismay was unaware of Morgan's vast and overwhelming plot? Incidentally, the Spring 1912 Issue of the Shipbuilder (and a few other sources) describe the prestigious parlour suite, B 52 - 56, but make no mention about it being specifically designed or altered for Morgan. Or accounts of the actual insurance figure paid out by Lloyds? Would they help disabuse you of your errors?
@@dovetonsturdee7033what would you rather do collect insurance on a boat that isn't in working order an not making your company money or just let it sit ha. And we all think it's odd that only a year later after this all happened they got the federal tax passed in 1913
Except they literally never called it "unsinkable." An ad for the ship or something along that line remarked that the ship was "*practically* unsinkable," but White Star itself never said that.
@@FFContent Being written about in the newspapers was like having an ad on TV back then, it was considered marketing. Even if we don’t consider newspapers marketing today because of the advances of the modern era, it was defiantly marketing back then. Therefore- nothing I said was inaccurate. It was marketed as an unsinkable ship. Please stop trying to discredit me, your sense of intellectual superiority is really pissing me off.
There was a report i remember it said soon after they felt hitting an iceberg they heard an unidentified explosion. ( which caused holes n thus enabled water to come.)impact was insignificant;however, the explosion had super impact
The weekend would not be enough time to switch the Titanic & Olympic because there would have been so many things to move with Titanic's name on it. Plus both ships has some cosmetic differences, meaning they were not 100% identical
It was done piecemeal fashion, meaning slight changes were made over time making one ship look more like the other. At least 3 or maybe 4 changes were made to Olympic during her stay in Belfast for repairs in March 1912. These changes were: 2 additional portholes on the portside of the bow (making a total of 16 portholes like Titanic had had since fitting out) Olympic's lifeboats were originally all white, now suddenly they were painted brown around the gunwales, again like Titanic's A vent added to the lower bridge as seen in profile view. An extra C deck rounded window appears to have been added on the portside.
@@Embracing01 The Titanic didn't even have her fourth funnel affixed by the time the Olympic went back to resuming her transatlantic crossings. Wasn't fully painted until the following March. Had zero lifeboats or even lifeboat davits installed. Absolute nonsense.
As a titanic enthusiast of over 12 years, sort answer is no! All these conspiracies are false, a lot of misinformation is spread about the ship, and the truth was it was nothing more then a tragic accident…
The titanic was on fire from the coal bunkers when it left port, the heat caused massive damage to the panels on side of ship crossed with the rubbish rivets they used and the ice cold water as well massively weakened the integrity of the hull all the rivets failed on impact letting 1000s of gallons of water into the ship.
@@lea-rw5cb There was a small fire in one of 19 bunkers, identified in Southampton and dealt with at least 24 hours before the collision. The testimony of stoker survivors, who stated that the only damage was to paintwork in the affected bunker, is quite clear on this point. Seriously, had there really been a serious fire, would the ship even have sailed? Olympic, by the way, used the same steel and rivets. She was a successful ocean liner for almost a quarter of a century.
@dovetonsturdee7033 I watched a documentary were they tested several rivets used on titanic and evidence was found of cutting corners by using rivets with a low tensile strength, they also tested this by heating up the rivets and then putting them in water.
@@albertdavid6393 I do apologise. If I had realised how lacking in intelligence you were, I wouldn't have bothered correcting your ignorance. Be happy in your stupidity, little chap.
There is one weird thing that many will come across. There was a book published two years before the Titanic went out and had it's disaster, in which a ship, the name I can't remember, went out on almost the exact course as the Titanic. It was also two yards longer then the Titanic, held two more life boats then the Titanic, and was also going on it's maiden voyage. And the biggest thing of all, was that the ship hit an iceberg and sank, with death toll in the book being only 624 people less then those of the Titanic disaster. It was featured on a show called The Outer Limits. The show goes over real cases of paranormal, oddities, and the unexplained.
@@thepowersisters6947 I can't remember the name of it, but it was talked about on a show call One step beyond that ran from 1959 to 1961. The episode is focused on the Titanic and it's sinking, and then brings up the story.
For those who tend to lean in favor of the so-called 'conspirarcy theory'... There were several aestetic differences between R.M.S. Titanic and R.M.S. Olympic. The construction design of the two vessels varied in many areas, but to be specific, one very noticeable difference lay in the Marconi rooms of the two 'sisters!' The Harland & Wolffe specifications clearly indicate that Titanic's Marconi equipment was positioned in a different section of her Marconi room as compared to Olympic. The wreckage on the bottom of the North Atlantic, when explored on various submersible dives indicates this exact configuration... NOT Olympic's! The wreckage further revealed that the layout of the room matched only ONE design.... the Marconi room of Titanic!
@@lukeaustin4465 As Abe Lincoln, or perhaps Mark Twain, wisely said, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” Too late, I fear, in your case.
@@dovetonsturdee7033only bullies benefit in silence, speak when you see something or there will be no one to speak when the mass murderers get to your family
The Titanic sank in April 1912. The Federal reserve was established in December 1913. The new deep-sea submersible the Titan built by the company Ocean Gate was destroyed according to the US Navy on December 17th 2023 ironically on December 18th 1972, 51 years ago, Watergate occurred which was a massive cover-up of corruption at the highest level of Washington d.c. given that there were 18 months between the sinking of the Titanic and the establishment of the Federal reserve, I'd say we have until about December of 2024 before the US dollar mysteriously collapses overnight which is also interesting because that will be the month before the new President is sworn in
On purpose it would've been a bomb planted.. you don't drive into random icebergs. Then the captain, the spotters and basically the whole crew would've been in on it.
Can you explain why this supposed bomb didn't automatically kill any of the stokers or firemen at the detonation point? Or why there are survivors from where this bomb allegedly went off who all testified to hearing long, jarring scraping and not a single explosion?
Every time we market things using words lke "unsinkable" or "fireproof " I think it sends out a challenge to the powers that be & they're more than happy to prove us wrong.😃
Did you know there are Newspaper articles in the NY Times and the Washington Times from 21/7/1912 where a retired shipman named Peter Pryal claimed to have seen and spoken to Captain Smith in Baltimore, 3 months after the sinking.
The aspect of this I find most difficult to understand, is that a former shipmate from the Majestic would grass up Smith to the Press, it`s just not the done thing.
There was a theory that Titanic and Olympic were switched. Olympic had gotten damaged when it collided with another ship and had to be taken back to the ship yard for repairs. At the time, Titanic was still being built, so, for insurance purposes, they switched the ships and Olympic sank on what have been Titanic’s maiden voyage.
This theory has been debunked. There is NO WAY that Olympic and Titanic could have been switched in the time she was in for repairs after the Hawke Collision among other issues with the theory itself.
Olympic was on a return trip from New York under the command of Herbert Haddock, and responded to Titanic's mayday signals. She passed through the area Titanic sank in just hours after bigger sister went down
The Olympic was deemed at fault for the incident in which she was damaged. Thats why the White Starline Company couldn't claim on the insurance to repair the damage. Therefore, the repairs cost them A LOT of money, which is the main basis for this conspiracy theory. However, there are many plot holes in the theory that the Titanic and Olympic were switched. There were key differences between the two that were advertised to attract customers who had travelled on the Olympic to get them to also travel on the Titanic. Many of the passengers on the Titanic had travelled on the Olympic, so would know if these new areas were not there as advertised. Also, the hull numbers is stamped on every pieces of the ship. Every remaining piece of the Olympic seen after she was decomissioned is stamped with the correct number. This would not be the case of she sank in the Titanic's place.
Yes! Violet Jessop worked on the Titanic and I believe the Britannic. Both sank and she survived both! She has an amazing memoir that's definitely worth reading
@@TomFoti Only, perhaps, if they present a shred of evidence in support of their claims. Which, of course, none have ever done where Titanic is concerned.
The worst thing about Titanic conspiracies is how often they make it into "legitimate" documentaries. Everything from "they chose to use fewer safety boats because it wasn't cosmetically appealing", "the Captain was racing the ship to beat a world record", "the Irish cursed the shipped because they were underpaid (I mean they were underpaid, but I don't believe they sank an entire ship worth of people. If they had the power to sink ships, why wouldn't they have the power to get paid????) ", etc. It's annoying because they don't clarify that it hasn't been verified and leads to a lot of misinformation being passed around as fact.
@@mauretaniafan1133 And when you try to correct them, they go on a whining stubbornly prideful tangent on their egotistical opinions of the lies, they want to feel special, so they act like it, and think they are above criticism because their egos can't take it
Speaks so fast, it’s difficult being partially deaf to understand everything. Closed Caption can’t keep up. On screen captions would be nice to make it more accessible.
The only viable “theory” is the idea that Jack and Rose definitely could have shared that platform, and that’s from a fictional movie. Everything else is complete and utter BS and has been thoroughly debunked by experts.
No they literally couldn't. Not only did the movie itself show that two of them being on it would cause it to flip or be too submerged in the water, they proved that on Mythbusters, too. They would literally have had to have added more buoyancy to the board, and even if they had known that, when you are panicking and freezing, your brain isn't going to think, "Hmm, maybe I should tie a life jacket to this board to keep it out of the water well enough to keep us both from dying from hypothermia."
@@englishatheart I thought they did prove it on Mythbusters? I never watched that show. And I’ve always heard people say that if they’d approached it from opposite sides it wouldn’t have tipped over because obviously it’s going to if you approach it from the same side. I guess it’s all BS, then. The conspiracies and the theory about the movie float.🤷🏻♀️
The facts are there was a fire on board which heated up the hull weakening the structure it shouldnt of left the dock in that state and coupled with the icey water made the structure brittle
Speaking of suicide, a year after the sinking, Lightoller's dad committed suicide by slashing his throat. I don't know how someone would slash his own throat. Makes me wonder if Lights told a relative something and the info got to his father in New Zealand & he started talking too much.
@@daphneduryea9136 That does sound like something that could have happened, as it did with Morgan Robertson who got a bit mouthy over his 1898 book which accurately foretold the Titanic. His body was found in an Atlantic City hotel room having been poisoned, suicide was claimed but his death was classed as suspicious. Then there was the character suspected of being Capt Smith who died in similar fashion.
1:30 another problem with the lifeboats: by the time it became very clear that people needed to get into them, the ship was listing, which made it impossible to launch some of them, though the crew tried very hard. The entire thing was a complete sh*t show from start to finish.
I really do want to believe it for the reason of the federal reserve opposition being on board, but I just don't understand how they could intentionally guarantee it would sink, nor how they would make sure those three wouldn't survive. As much as I'd love to believe it, it does seem like a bit of a stretch, even if it could be true.
@@Monicalia so you think the one responsible couldn't have slipped away unseen? With scummy politics and capitalist criminals, anything is possible. EDIT: I looked Capt. Edward John Smith. He died with the ship. But history is written by the survivors
If you knew a guy that had been kicked out of 100 shops out of the 200 in town, for turning the customers on each other with sneaking lies and manipulation, while stealing money out of the cash register, would you blame the shops or blame the guy?
lol I knew something was up when I heard 1912 was the date the titanic sank. Immediately I thought 1913 the year the federal reserve was established. When u.s.a sold its soul to the monopoly mobsters. Monoply board game mustache man is J.P Morgan
Nope, not even the switch theory is possible, there were just too many alterations that had to be done to both ships for even the passengers to not notice. Not to mention the motives for even sinking the Olympic would not have made sense, weather it was for insurance (which she was underinsured) or even to get rid of her, from what we know during the Titanic’s sea trials and maiden voyage (which would have been Olympic according to the conspiracy) she was very much seaworthy and comfortable which does not make sense because according to the conspiracy the Olympic was so badly damaged that she was no longer in shape.
@@Julesb2183 when the Olympic blew a perpeler valse it takes two days to fix it was thier next to the titanic for a month why and that’s when they said the switch happened plus the Olympic was heavily damaged and after titanic went down Olympic went on to live til 1935 hmmmm makes u think
It’s also safe to assume a mid Atlantic sinking would cost the company far more than the value of a single ship. Also why could they not have just filed an insurance claim to repair or replace the Olympic? The whole thing doesn’t add up from a CODB pov.
I seriously recommend everyone here watch Titanic Animations video where he not only debunks the theory, but explains why it's literally impossible for it to be true
No way in hell the ship would have survived if it hit the berg head on. Ever see the under side of an iceberg? Much like The Titanic's Advertisers the narrator doesn't know how Iceberg look & how much larger they are underneath.
If I was the owner of the shipping company and was supposed to be boarding a ship that had 2 of it’s Coal stores on fire. I may have canceled my trip because the ship could have been fatally compromised. So this also opens the question ‘Was the Fire started on Purpose as a sabotaged or not & it was an accidental fire??? After hearing some evidence regarding the ships crew & report’s of the condition of the ship after the fire was bought ’Under control’
‘Was the Fire started on Purpose as a sabotaged or not & it was an accidental fire???' Neither, it was simply a smouldering coal fire, caused by spontaneous combustion of wet coal. Such things were not uncommon, and explain why IMM insisted that the bunkers of their ships were inspected on a daily basis.
So many of these facts have been disproven long ago. Did he look up a 2005 documentary or something before making up this video. 1. The engines were never reversed. 2. The head on collision idea was laughed at by experts in 1912. 3. Binoculars are not the best way to spot the iceberg. The naked eye is and binoculars are only used to verify what a spotted object is. Do better research on the event before even attempting to talk conspiracies for fun.
It you’re walking through a minefield full of mines you can only see in the daylight. Would it be logical to Just stop and wait for daylight to keep moving?
Titanic wasn't steaming through a known minefield. She was in an area where, POTENTIALLY, there MIGHT have been icebergs. Smith did what any other liner captain of the time would have done, which was to maintain course and warn his lookouts to be vigilant. You should read the evidence given by several other liner captains at the British Inquiry for confirmation of this fact.
A Titanic 3 Way Center Propeller was put on The Center of Olympic, numbered 401 . You cannot tell the ships apart by The Center Propellor because both say 401 and are 3 way. Before April 1912 Olympic had a 4 way Center Propellor numbered 400. But The Other 2 Propellers both have numbers ! , so do the engines and crankshafts ! Those numbers could not be swapped in a week like The Center Propellor and ships items and hardwares. Another fact is Olympic was painted under Titanic on the lifeboats from The shipwreck covered up with a board ? How do You explain away that ? You won't see anything if you don't actually look into the facts. The Pictures of a 4 way propeller saying it is Titanic are actually Pre April 1912 Olympic photos. And the ship did break right where Olympic was damaged at The Keel. The other side has a inward to outward explosion on The Port side. Clearly something inside exploded outwards consistent with planting a charge in The boiler room. It could be the biggest Insurance Fraud of 1912 not to mention Mass Murder ! . I don't buy the breaking theory that the experts are saying because no water was in the rear of the ship and it was normal weight. But with a damaged Starboard side from a previous accident and a explosion on the port side Yes it could break in two ! . Huge Ships toss in waves during storms and they do not break in two ! , It was a calm ocean without any waves. And The Californian was doing nothing and ignoring flares , that is outrageous ! , The Californian was Another White Star Ship Owned by J.P. Morgan also ! . Why would they send Olympic 500 miles to save Titanic when Californian was just 5 miles away doing nothing ? Clearly White Star was behind what happened. Was The Iceberg a mere coincidence ? Or Planned as a smokescreen ? Did J.P. Morgan betray Captain Smith and Ismay ? , Was someone murdered on The ship before it sank and did the killer escape to The Californian ? . It looks that way by their actions. Too many things do not add up ! . Serial Numbers from The Engines and Crankshafts do not lie like people do !
This is what i get about the " if jt hit the ice burg head on it wouldn't have sunk " theory. Yes, it would have probably smashed the front of the ship, but it would only fill four of the watertight doors and it would still float, but a gash on the side would fill six and it would sink , if it hit it head on it probably would have definitely killed some people but no nearly as much as when it sunk, and they would have been able to send signals to other boats and safely transport the people to another ship and continue the journey on that one, if the hit it head on.
What happened to this channel? There used to be a mix of silly content (supernatural stuff) with actual unsolved cases. Now its just filled with either cases that have already been solved or just garbage.
It's not anti-Semitic to criticise the Rothschilds.
They aren't even Jewish anyway. They're descended from the pharaohs.
How can someone think that especially given their past. It’s not anti semitic it’s fact .
And anyway this happened before rise of antisemitism
Must be racist to criticize OJ Simpson
Yeah what is wrong with this guy
I hate how the term “conspiracy” is being used in place of “conspiracy theory.” Conspiracies are real and are a part of history. Conspiracy theories, however, are not always true.
This conspiracy is one of the false ones that has no truth.
@@SQUAREHEADSAM1912, In that case there would be no conspiracy. Just a theory.
@@explorerofmind yes, I highly outlandish theory.
@Uni BlackSister a big one was, titanic was heavily under insured by about 3 million dollars, so in the event of a sinking, they White Star Line wouldn’t profit but would lose money.
@Graf von Losinj not true… and again Titanic was HEAVILY under insured
Idk but I know Rose could've saved Jack.
If only Jack wanted to be saved ;]
The door wouldn't take both their weight to keep them both out of the water. Their combined weight would mean that their bodies were still partially submerged in the freezing water. So they both would have died from hypothermia.
Plus Jack's role in the story was to open Rose's eyes to her own power. He showed her a different way of life and that he liked her company for who she was as a person and not what she could give him as a trophy. His presence in her life gave her the confidence to choose her own life.
He is the 'manic pixy dream girl' character. Which is refreshing to see as this role is usually fufilled by a woman to a male main character.
Hate to be that guy but Jack and Rose are not real
Myth busters busted this myth
Love can touch you one time and last for a lifetime
I read the title and all I could think about was the captain saying…
“Hey John, wanna see why they call it indestructible? Watch this!” 💀
LOL
"Indestructible, huh? I would love to test that out." 😭
This is just 👌
"while our wives aren't here, what do you say we see what this baby can do? Ram that thing, bro!"
Just like buying new phone or car, have to try all its features
Some of these theories I have never heard of and I was shocked about the mummy one
Someone's never played 999 lol.
It's been years since I've heard someone as educated about the Titanic. My uncle told me all about all this different things when I was around 10....I just turned 35
Everything you know is a lie lol. Literally every single thing.
@@itwasallfornothing3664 so the tardis being blue is a lie?
How a bout the rocafeller one
When JP Morgan is brought up in a story like this, it's hard not to believe...
What? Do you mean that 'it's hard not to believe' that this story was invented in the 1990s, and has no actual supporting evidence at all?
The titanic definitely was sank on purpose, but the question is by whom
@@Taharqo.saved.the.HebrewIt wasn’t sunk on purpose, so I’d say by the iceberg.
@@EngineeringFan1776 some people were traumatised by the james cameron movie that it blinding them to truth or facts
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Cameron's movie left a such emotional psychological trauma in a point that people can not deny that story is what we seen in the movie even if facts were in front of their eyes by the emotional thinking they'll prefer to blind themselves.. Jack is Leonardo dicaprio and now is 50 yrs old, that's a fact... Jack is fictional, dicaprio is real = this is what we call fact.
JP Morgan was the owner of the ship = it's a fact
He didn't go in the ship = it's a fact
Astor, guggeheim and Strauss were opposed to the creation of the federal reserve = it's a fact.
Until high school I thought they had never built a ship bigger than the Titanic. I literally thought it was a Tower of Babel situation
*ship
@@JessePinkman_69420 dang autocorrect
@theMagicKnightress it's all good
Lol I had a friend who thought that and I told him the actual biggest ship is like 10x the size and he thought i was lying
The planning and design of the Titanic took place on 17 September 1908.
In 1898 a book was written by Morgan Robertson "The Wreck Of The Titan".
The book describes a huge passenger ship named Titan:
Both collided with an iceberg in the North Atlantic due to excessive speed and both ships had too few lifeboats.
Both were launched in April and their disasters happened in the same month.
Both were the largest ship afloat. The Titan was described as one of man’s greatest works. The Titanic was deemed unsinkable and a wonder of its era.
Both had a displacement of 45,000 tons.
Both had three propellers and two masts.
Another ship named Titanian in 1935 also had an encounter with an iceberg.
You can believe in weird coincidences or prophesies... or something happened on purpose.
👀
And the submarine called the “titan” just sunk exploring the titanic lol this is wild
It`s certainly weird that someone writes a book in 1898 and describes more or less in detail the Olympic Class of ship that wasn`t even designed until years later. J P Morgan didn`t own the White Star Line until 1902.
@@XrpAndy Yeah when I heard the news I immediately thought back about that book
“Prophecies”
The truth is often quite simple, the captain was under constant pressure to make the maiden voyage newsworthy and thus leading an experienced captain to make unfortunate decisions + the ship’s aesthetic beauty being prioritized over proper safety features.
Titanic was never trying to be news worthy
@@vanshmittal3168 I’m talking to Nae00 not you
they switched the original captain with the one you all know and love at the last minute. i wonder why?
@@xmarkhimselfx they never switched the Captain
@@cattanic494 thanks. was just something i had heard
Rich people killing others to get their way? Nahhhh they would neverrr
Perhaps they would, but they didn't on this occasion.
Just like the Batman theater shooter who's ad was going to testify against the largest theft in world history, liborg stole 30trillion from common economy,.. if you stood to lose30 trillion it's sloppy for the other 2 shooters to leave theor masks outside thoug, probavly almost got caught loke mossad dancing when the towers got hit
@@dovetonsturdee7033 or maybe they did and had influence to change the narrative.
@@joemama1691 It is always 'maybe' with conspiracy theorists. The argument seems to be 'The fact that there is precisely no evidence to support the theory proves that it must be true.' Quite invincibly daft.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 lol conspiracy theorists was coined by the CIA. Looked it up and why should I blindly believe anything when there’s evidence that contradicts the narrative. I don’t think thinking critically is a bad thing and being open to new evidence or ideas. You can’t help being condescending or belittling because you have been propagandised your whole life.
Saw a convincing documentary that theorised that the likely cause of Titanic's demise was that a cold weather mirage obscured the iceberg from being seen by the lookouts until they were nearly on top of it. The crew thought they would see a large object like that much further away and thus have plenty of time to turn. The documentary also said that the binoculars wouldn't have made a difference, since binoculars were usually used for examining objects not spotting them.
That’s very interesting! Although something id like to add, I really don’t remember where I saw this so don’t trust me lmao, its theorized that the Titanic already had a leak or crack by the time that it hit the iceberg and that could be why the ‘unsinkable ship’, sinked easily.
@@alidarlyvalenzuela I think it was the coal fire that weakned the area not a creak.
@@alidarlyvalenzuela sorry crack lol
Thank you. I remember watching that documentary, but didn't remember enough to explain as well as you did.
@@alidarlyvalenzuela The person that designed the ship never said it was unsinkable. The media made that up.
Correction. The Olympic actually was said to be at fault for the accident, so that's the reason they couldn't get a payment. I actually think the theory is plausible. Even if the insurance payouts were different amounts, they'd probably rather have a smaller payout than lose all the money by not having a sailable ship. Also, just because you see a group of people work on things doesn't mean you really care about what they are doing. You just assume they are working.
But the problem is both ships were very much sailable/ seaworthy at the time of Titanic’s maiden voyage, not to mention a sinking like that especially on a NEWER ship would have hurt the reputation of the white star line more than just having the already damaged older ship sink as itself. Not to mention the time frame where the conspiracy states that the switch happened was not even enough time to truly switch everything needed, you’ve got to remember that everything on these ships were stamped with the names of the ships everything from plates, door frames, chairs, lifeboats, life jackets, etc. Not to mention all of the changes to the interiors, rooms would have to be moved, new spaces would have to be made, new walls would have to be put up, all in all not even the switch is possible.
@@Johnathan04 Would they really need to do that much of a switch? I mean, who would be able to verify that in 1912? Was everything that universally stamped with the name? I don't doubt there was a lot of it, but I'm a little hesitant to say it was basically everything. If they had a whole new crew, I don't think having a similar interior mattered. It's not like they could research pictures of them on the internet.
I think it's possible, but who knows? I definitely could be wrong. I think the weakness is that the theory is too broad and doesn't specify individuals.
excuse me are you the expert have you studied the titanic for 5 years do you know alot about the titanic No you don't so shut up and let the expert which is me handle this
@@Wolfboi-dx6vu 🤣🤣
The theory is definitely plausible but seeing as the Olympic got turned into a troopship for world war 1, I think someone would have definitely noticed if it was actually the Titanic.
There's no gash on the side of the ship, it was multiple slits that brought her down.
Right, yet this you tuber talks about a huge gash down the side. It was a series of five small punctures, combined with a coal fire that had been burning in the hull way before launching. The titanic should have never left due to safety reasons.
Ran onto the shelf of the iceberg
@@w1prig coal bunkers catching fire was pretty common and did not cause any structural issues... plus that fire was out before sailing
It's been suggested that an icebreaker was used to cut gashes in the side.
@@w1prigyea because you were there to witness it
I heard that there was already a fire in the boiler room of the Titanic before it set sail. Then the weakened area in the hull from the fire is where the iceberg struck. Thank you for a very informative video.
@@fanclub3528 thank you so much for your reply. I heard that they did have binoculars but they were locked up. I have heard a lot of other things about the ship as well.
That theory has been debunked countless times
@@cattanic494 debunking means nothing. I can also say "no u"
@@ryanparker4996 debunking means proving wrong
@@rmsteutonic3686 yes, I know what the word means. Doesnt mean I believe an such "debunking" to be valid at all. The idea that the Clinton Family has killed several tens of people is also "Debunked" but blatantly the truth
Even with all those theories, I'm still blaming the people who called the ship "unsinkable". They cursed that ship with that word and then some block of ice prove them wrong.
No one ever said it was “unsinkable” only newspapers called it “practically unsinkable” and “ built to be unsinkable”
@@cattanic494 it ended up "built to definitely sink" lol
It was called “as unsinkable as they could make a ship”
A block of ice and a coal fire that was still burning as they left port damaging the hull can be a bad mix
@@TheRealRusDaddy the fire needed to be massive to even damage the steel hull
I don’t know the full story of the titanic. All of those theories could in fact be wrong. However, I can say with full confidence in my heart that the story of the Titanic is not completely true. I know that there’s more to the story than what we’re told. No doubt in my mind.
I find it interesting how other ship wrecks where people didn't make it nobody bats an eyelash at divers disturbing the area but nobody wants anyone to bring up anything including the ship under the claim it's a burial ground. I always thought it was odd. But I'm willing to bet it's to keep her secrets safe down there on what exactly happened.
You would lose you bet. What 'secrets' could possibly be involved?
With the technology we have today it would be extremely easy to determine if it was sabotage or it went down due to an unfortunate situation.
Exactly got to keep an open mind. These people will do anything to get what they want
@@Idekanymoreboutyt It is already known why Titanic sank. Sabotage not being the reason.
@@Corteggy Does 'keeping an open mind' involve ignoring all known evidence, as the conspiracists feel the need to do?
It was sunk on purpose to create The Creature from Jekyll Island. Otherwise known as the FED.
How would the sinking have any effect on the creation of the Fed?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 because there was 3 billionaires on the ship who publicly said they are against the fed
@@thetruth5483 Would you care to supply a source that confirms your claim? Guggenheim and Astor had never expressed any opinions about the Fed., whilst Straus supported the idea. I can provide you with details of two articles in the New York Times from October 1911 supporting this fact. Can you provide any contemporary source which contradicts it?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Fed started less than a year later and all 3 men aboard the ship were innovative investors, not oil guru's, not auto manufactures. Investment Bankers that can shape how the world is dictated to this day.
Britannic's original name was Gigantic, and was larger then Titanic and Olympic, but after Titanic sank, the white star line decided that it would change the name out of respect and to keep passengers coming. Britannic sank during world war one as a hospital ship in the Mediterranean sea, never having seen a single paying passenger. She most likely hit a mine, as the custom at the time was to not torpedo hospital ships, as they were designated such by giant red crosses on their side and a distinct white paint job
there is very little evidence that the name "gigantic" was ever going to be given to the ship. perhaps it was a name tossed around but it just never stook
@@mauretaniafan1133 theres already evedence of it not being Gigantic since theres a yard book showing alot of the ships ordered at that time in the ship yard in 1911, Hull number 433 has already been Named “Britannic” so it kills the fact of it being Named by Gigantic and i also dont see White star naming the ship that, since it only says that the ship Is Huge despite the fact that she is not even the largest ship in the world While Britannic is more strong its like a prideful name its like saying shes the Pride of britain ship building.
@@mr.juniii5523 I used to believe that Gigantic legend too. Interesting how myths can spread if not cross checked
Britannic was not bigger. It was actually the smallest of the 3 by tonnage.
@@Brandon_093The Britannic was the same length of the Titanic, but it was wider by a few feet to accommodate a double hull. It also had an aft superstructure, which likely increased its weight by a lot. Britannic was nearly 1000 tons heavier.
People constantly bring up the number of lifeboats but rarely bring up the fact that the lifeboats weren't meant to carry all passengers at once. The purpose of the boats were to ferry people from the sinking ship to a safe ship (or to land, had either been close enough), drop those people off, then come back for the other passengers. They were never meant to carry all the passengers at the same time. They never expected to sink in the middle of the ocean with no ships or land nearby to ferry passengers to. Had there been a safe place close by to drop passengers off, the boats likely would have gotten all of the passengers off before the ship sank.
Wow, never thought of this,makes alot of sense though! Thanks for this!
No, the British Maritime Board specified a certain NUMBER of lifeboats be carried, but as ships became larger, they never changed that number to match the
number of PASSENGERS being carried.
@@charleneryan138 yeah but not really... the law at the time was that a ship of titanics size should only carry 20
Where did they ferry people to? How did anyone actually survive?
@@hotmessjess1849 nearby vessels. It was believed that on the north Atlantic route there would be enough other vessels due to it being one of the busiest routes at the time
My great grandfather told me that he was one of the men on the team employed to switch over the titanic and the olympic with each other, I believe he was telling me the truth and he passed about 30 years ago
Wow I thought this for a long time that this may have happened, your grandfather telling you this mate proves that this happened, insurence purposes to keep white star line in business
Hi, that's interesting what you said about your great grandfather. Researcher John Hamer who spent 3 years looking into the switch theory said he has been to Belfast and has spoken to families of descendants of workers who worked at Harland and Wolff who told him that they believed the ships were indeed switched and that it was common knowledge in Belfast and even dock workers in Liverpool. No idea who these families he spoke to where though as he has never mentioned their names. John himself also believes Titanic was switched with Olympic. I have spent some time myself looking into the switch theory and have looked at many photos, but despite all the evidence regarding Californian having stopped for no reason that night and all the other odd things which may suggest a pre planned sinking, I have not found any evidence which prove that one ship became the other.
@@Embracing01 It is unwise to take any notice of what Mr. Hamer alleges.
@@Embracing01 So now we know!
That's sounds interesting I would like to know about that
If the insurance fraud plan was true you would think they would have had enough life boats for all passengers and crew.
You're absolutely right. If they wanted to gain insurance money, they wouldn't have killed 1500 people, because this ruined White Star Line. I'm pretty sure it would've been a small accident somewhere close to a port and the Titanic would be a hotel/museum today, like the Queen Mary Ship from Long Beach California.
This tragedy was not planned.
They actually have an answer for that. There was another ship that was supposed to be nearby to help, but something something *no evidence* it never showed up or something.
@@bradensorensen966 The supposed, intended rescue ship theory is where things get confusing. Some have stated that Californian had nowhere near enough space to accommodate even half the passenger and crew numbers, some state a maximum of 100 people, others say only about 46 people. If that is true then surely there must have been another rescue ship planned to pick up passengers and crew, then again why would Californian go to the trouble of having 3000 woollen blankets and jumpers on board for all those potential passengers when most of them wouldn't have been needed, or where the crew going to throw a couple of hundred of them across to the other rescue ship or ships?.
The plan was for the California to rescue the passengers but the binoculars were put in a safe and th wrong flares we're sent it was supposed to be red and white a signal for the California to rescue them
@@josephyost6060 I've heard about that as well, and even if it were true it still doesn't mean there was a switch of the ships. Maybe Titanic (the real Titanic) was sunk for another reason, maybe it had nothing to do with the insurance scam maybe Morgan was so intent on getting rid of Astor, Guggenheim and Straus that he ordered a brand new ship to sink. There is another theory that suggests the whole event was a hoax. Why didn't the ship seen sailing past as she was sinking not bother to help, if say it was there to help with the rescue? it makes no sense even when you consider the pre-planned sinking. Was this ship or ships ordered not to get involved? if so why and by whom? or did the capt of this ship think they didn't need assistance?. So many questions but no answers, and that's before you analyse all of the photos of Olympic and Titanic and notice that there's no evidence of a switch at any point between Sept 1911 (after the Hawke incident) and March/April 1912 when Titanic left Belfast for Southampton.
It is NOT by ANY means antisemitism to criticize the Rothschild family. Who says that ?
The documentary about the switch contains a lot more information which could be quite compelling if true. For instance, the Titanic's insurance was increased the week before it set sail. A claim of $12.5m was paid out by Lloyd's of London - a mere 5 days after the accident...
Unfortunately, for the conspiracists, Titanic's insured value was always £1 million. It was never increased, and remained at £500,000 less than her building costs.
This is untrue and there is literally no evidence to back this claim up at all. Lloyd's records indicate that Titanic was insured, like her sister, for £1,000,000/$5,000,000. Ismay testified as much at the Senate Inquiry, as did Philip Franklin, VP of IMM. Additionally, Franklin also testified that "Commanders are reminded that the steamers are to a great extent uninsured and that their only livelihood, as well as the company's, depends upon immunity from accident. No precaution which insures safe navigation is to be considered excessive."
As well, all White Star captains received a letter of instruction that instructed them to be safe and watchful because "the blow which would be inflicted to the reputation of the Line, secondly, from the pecuniary loss that would accrue (the Company being their own insurers.), and thirdly, from the interruption of a regular service upon which the success of the present organisation must necessarily depend."
A mere 500k glance at what they gained by a federal reserve huh some people don't have good intuitive skills
@@brandondewitt6879exactly.
James Cameron proved in one his documentaries, even if there was enough life boats, not all over them can be launched in time.
Why?
@@Justin1an They didn't launch the life boats until an hour after the iceberg hit. It would take around 30 mins by hand to set up, load and launch each lifeboat. Not all boats did get off. Collapsible A and B never even got hooked up to be launched.
Also even if there is enough lifeboats. Boats that came after Titanic, they couldn't even launch lifeboats due to to the angle of the list during sinking.
Lifeboats were originally used to transport passengers between ships.
Titanic had something like 2hrs or little over. How long do you think it takes to lower a lifeboat ?? 🤔
Nevermind the fact that Titanic also had Collapsible canvas boats.
@@MrSniperdude01 Keep in mind it was 1912 and it was all done by hand. It was around 10 mins alone to prepare and to crank the lifeboat in position to even load the boats. Look at the documentary Titanic: 20 Years later and James Cameron demos it.
@@rebellonedog Doesn't matter if they had lifeboats. It was so cold that night people lost hope of survival. People didn't board lifeboats because they were afraid that someone would find their frozen bodies adrift at sea.
Usually if it’s called a conspiracy , it’s because it’s the truth.
But if it's debunked over and over, it's false
Look how many ‘conspiracy theories’ have proven to be true in the last 3 years!! 😅
@@emf49 This one needs a decent movie to really open it up. There are some that would like to do it but fear it would not be a box office success, and also would meet with considerable opposition.
That's what the government wants you to think.
Exactly. Morgan had something to do with it
The most famous theory I heard about had something to do with the Federal Banking Reserve because there had several of the richest persons at the time on the ship
The families of the people who stood on the way of establishing the Federal Reserve
That’s not a theory it’s the truth . JP Morgan , last day cancelled the trip with his family on Titatinc
I think the Federal Reserve theory is the most credible one. (The rest are red herrings). Remember the Jesuits were involved.
The federal reserve theory has been disproven countless times
@@sandrokolar4387 JP Morgan never cancels “last minute” he canceled his ticket months before the launch
JPM warned his fellow colleagues the ship was going down. He was not about to take a loss on the ship wrecked multiple times before the titanic, so he hiked the insurance and got the crew to sink the ship. While promising them all that he had another steamer set to be in the area for fast rescue. The titanic never sank.
No, no and no.
Lol
I believe that it was the Olympic that sank, not the Titanic. There is actual proof that every ship in that line have their name carved into them with 4 ft. letters. But yet in a video of the sunken "Titanic" it clearly showed that there were riveted letters on the sides of the ship that spelled out Titanic. Two of the letters has fallen off to reveal the carved in letters M and P next to each other. Titanic surely does not have and M or a P in its name. But one ship did.... The Olympic. Further more, why would riveted letters be there when the name of the ship was already carved there? Hmmmm, sounds like a conspiracy to commit fraud to me. The video that proves what I am saying is on UA-cam.
Lies.
1:28 I just watched Titanic 1997 version yesterday and i vividly remember the scene were they weren't filling the life boats to compacity.I heard one guy say the life boats were treated by 70 Irish men.70 people multiplied by 20 lifeboats should've saved at least 1400 people. Just thought I'd mention that.
Titanic carried 14 lifeboats capable of carrying 65 people each, 2 cutters each capable of holding 40 people, and four collapsible boats capable of holding 47 people.
18 boats were launched, and the last two collapsibles floated off as she sank, one upside down.
The ship absolutely would not have survived a head on collision. Hitting that iceberg at such a speed would warp the entire ship, sinking it faster and killing maybe everyone
i have seen people say this is debunked, but there is so much evidence for this. I have seen people use smaller, slower, naval ships as evidence but the difference between titanic and some tiny little freighter was massive.
@@mauretaniafan1133I believe ocean liner designs made a video about this, and he it would’ve likely crumpled up to the main mast.
Bill Hughes book "The real Terrorists" the Titanic capt was seen many times after.
this is ridiculous. and the reason for less lifeboats was back then they were simply meant to ferry survivors to a waiting ship and return for more. there was no legal requirement for there to be enough for everyone. had a ship been close enough, they would have had enough. lifeboat regulations changed after this
yes, i think if Carpathia was later by one hour, everyone would've died
Sureeeeee
We all gonna acknowledge this is the best buzzfeed unsolved host they have left?
If he got the pedo mustache outta here maybe. At this point he's just a hipster.
Aria too.
Once he got rid of the vocal fry, I'm in
The most upsetting thing in this video is hearing it called a mummy "case" instead of a sarcophagus 🙃🥴
He is a wannabe celeb yanky. So can't expect him to know too much.
JP Morgan was the major investor of the White Star line, he had a personal suite on Titanic complete with bespoke adaptations, he was basically the owner, present at her launch but he cancelled his sailing last minute because "he instead remained at the French resort of Aix to enjoy his morning massages and sulfur baths". So his pride and joy centrepiece of the global cruise line industry's maiden voyage but he preferred to go paddling ? Beats ice cold drowning I suppose, JP Morgans close friend and business associate steel baron Henry Clay Frick also cancelled his sailing, again last minute, his wife sprained her ankle ??
Insurance job that surprisingly killed the richest man in the world at the time, John Jacob Astor IV, financier, and major vocal opposer of a central national Federal Reserve, the idea of the aforementioned banker Mr Morgan ?
Yep, all sounds totally reasonable and legit, absolutely nothing to see here...
Morgan never intended to sail in Titanic. There are even newspaper reports from March 1912 stating what he intended to do instead.
More people cancelled from Olympic's maiden voyage than did for Titanic's.
Astor was never a vocal opponent of the Fed. Neither he nor Guggenheim had ever expressed any opinions at all. Straus had, however. He was a supporter.
Insurance job? Not a smart one, White Star received £1 million for a ship which cost £1.5 million to build, and lost their reputation for safety at the same time.
Do try harder!
Oddly, your most recent post :-
'doveton sturdee and that is how you shut down an over opinionated know it all, no rebuttal ? Really must try harder !!! '
Hasn't appeared on here, only in my inbox. However :-
As I have corrected the most obvious errors in your earlier post, how much more do you need?
Perhaps the fact that the Federal Reserve Plot theory dates from the 1990s, or the dates of the newspaper articles relating Straus' speech in favour of the Fed.? Actually from October, 1911. You could even look up Astor, Straus, & Guggenheim for yourself, and see what the facts really are.
Or the date of the newspaper article confirming that Morgan intended to be in Venice? Bruce Ismay actually used Morgan's suite instead. Do you suggest that Ismay was unaware of Morgan's vast and overwhelming plot? Incidentally, the Spring 1912 Issue of the Shipbuilder (and a few other sources) describe the prestigious parlour suite, B 52 - 56, but make no mention about it being specifically designed or altered for Morgan.
Or accounts of the actual insurance figure paid out by Lloyds?
Would they help disabuse you of your errors?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 👍
@@dovetonsturdee7033what would you rather do collect insurance on a boat that isn't in working order an not making your company money or just let it sit ha. And we all think it's odd that only a year later after this all happened they got the federal tax passed in 1913
Why is this fateful coincidence familiar? Lucky Larry comes to mind. It still remain a theory though.
I definitely think it was marketed as an “unsinkable ship” when it was very easily taken down.
Except they literally never called it "unsinkable." An ad for the ship or something along that line remarked that the ship was "*practically* unsinkable," but White Star itself never said that.
@@englishatheart keep pretending like there weren’t headlines about it from the time period that called it unsinkable. I saw them with my own eyes.
@@Eleanore.Rigbyy headlines is the keyword, headlines and articles are often exaggerated
@@FFContent Being written about in the newspapers was like having an ad on TV back then, it was considered marketing. Even if we don’t consider newspapers marketing today because of the advances of the modern era, it was defiantly marketing back then. Therefore- nothing I said was inaccurate. It was marketed as an unsinkable ship. Please stop trying to discredit me, your sense of intellectual superiority is really pissing me off.
That's basically what happened, but the main reason is as follows, failure of British engineering
I just like how conspiracy most of the time are facts
Barely any of the things mentioned in this video are factual.
There was a report i remember it said soon after they felt hitting an iceberg they heard an unidentified explosion. ( which caused holes n thus enabled water to come.)impact was insignificant;however, the explosion had super impact
No there wasn't.
This is a Brightside report I believe which is causing them a bit of concern.
The weekend would not be enough time to switch the Titanic & Olympic because there would have been so many things to move with Titanic's name on it. Plus both ships has some cosmetic differences, meaning they were not 100% identical
It was done piecemeal fashion, meaning slight changes were made over time making one ship look more like the other. At least 3 or maybe 4 changes were made to Olympic during her stay in Belfast for repairs in March 1912. These changes were:
2 additional portholes on the portside of the bow (making a total of 16 portholes like Titanic had had since fitting out)
Olympic's lifeboats were originally all white, now suddenly they were painted brown around the gunwales, again like Titanic's
A vent added to the lower bridge as seen in profile view.
An extra C deck rounded window appears to have been added on the portside.
@@Embracing01What about the Café Parisien?
@@Embracing01There was still hundreds of differences between the ships, though.
@@don2647He hasn’t made up enough stuff to get that far.
@@Embracing01 The Titanic didn't even have her fourth funnel affixed by the time the Olympic went back to resuming her transatlantic crossings. Wasn't fully painted until the following March. Had zero lifeboats or even lifeboat davits installed. Absolute nonsense.
As a titanic enthusiast of over 12 years, sort answer is no! All these conspiracies are false, a lot of misinformation is spread about the ship, and the truth was it was nothing more then a tragic accident…
It was definitely Jack who sank it because he wanted the diamond lol
Lol no moron... Titanic was planned just like 9/11
All of you are wrong clearly Titanic was switched with costa Concordia (im joking)
@@AlexGarcia-lp6mb if you want to live a lie, be my guest, but titanic was absolutely not an inside job!
@@northrailproductions it was switched with Queen Mary!
When flat earthers get interested in boats...
Lol
I remember seeing a youtube video back when youtube wasnt regulated and spoke about this in detail...
0:33 There’s literally 100s of Titanic photos out there and you still have to use a photo of a liner from another company?
There are very few genuine photos. of Titanic. Her older sister was the glamorous one which attracted the cameras.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 absolute horseshit..
@@vladraduandrei5227 Really? What makes you think that?
They always call it conspiracy but they never call it a lie.
The Conspiracy Theories about Titanic are Lies, unsupported by a shred of evidence.
The titanic was on fire from the coal bunkers when it left port, the heat caused massive damage to the panels on side of ship crossed with the rubbish rivets they used and the ice cold water as well massively weakened the integrity of the hull all the rivets failed on impact letting 1000s of gallons of water into the ship.
@@lea-rw5cb There was a small fire in one of 19 bunkers, identified in Southampton and dealt with at least 24 hours before the collision. The testimony of stoker survivors, who stated that the only damage was to paintwork in the affected bunker, is quite clear on this point.
Seriously, had there really been a serious fire, would the ship even have sailed?
Olympic, by the way, used the same steel and rivets. She was a successful ocean liner for almost a quarter of a century.
@dovetonsturdee7033 I watched a documentary were they tested several rivets used on titanic and evidence was found of cutting corners by using rivets with a low tensile strength, they also tested this by heating up the rivets and then putting them in water.
@@lea-rw5cb not all docus r true
JP is guilty in my eyes , he knew what he had in his hands
Guilty of what? You really should try to think for yourself, and not just believe every bit of nonsense you see in a conspiracist video.
go outside bro and get some air sound like a woman on her period
@@albertdavid6393 I do apologise. If I had realised how lacking in intelligence you were, I wouldn't have bothered correcting your ignorance.
Be happy in your stupidity, little chap.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 that’s what i though 🤡
@@dovetonsturdee7033 i feel sorry for people like you
There is one weird thing that many will come across. There was a book published two years before the Titanic went out and had it's disaster, in which a ship, the name I can't remember, went out on almost the exact course as the Titanic. It was also two yards longer then the Titanic, held two more life boats then the Titanic, and was also going on it's maiden voyage. And the biggest thing of all, was that the ship hit an iceberg and sank, with death toll in the book being only 624 people less then those of the Titanic disaster. It was featured on a show called The Outer Limits. The show goes over real cases of paranormal, oddities, and the unexplained.
Weird, I think there's definitely something fishy about the Titanic accident.
Which book was it ?
@@thepowersisters6947 I can't remember the name of it, but it was talked about on a show call One step beyond that ran from 1959 to 1961. The episode is focused on the Titanic and it's sinking, and then brings up the story.
@@Aluhcav ok thx
To make things even more strange the ship in the book was called Titan
For those who tend to lean in favor of the so-called 'conspirarcy theory'...
There were several aestetic differences between R.M.S. Titanic and R.M.S. Olympic.
The construction design of the two vessels varied in many areas, but to be specific,
one very noticeable difference lay in the Marconi rooms of the two 'sisters!' The
Harland & Wolffe specifications clearly indicate that Titanic's Marconi equipment
was positioned in a different section of her Marconi room as compared to Olympic.
The wreckage on the bottom of the North Atlantic, when explored on various
submersible dives indicates this exact configuration... NOT Olympic's!
The wreckage further revealed that the layout of the room matched only ONE
design.... the Marconi room of Titanic!
So...is the next mummy movie going to be about treasure hunters trying to stop the sinking of the ship by killing the mummy?🤣
Write that down! Write that down!
Two words, federal reserve.
The relevance of the Fed. to the sinking of Titanic being?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 The us government torpedoed the titanic (not an iceberg) as a public distraction to push through the federal reserve act.
@@lukeaustin4465 As Abe Lincoln, or perhaps Mark Twain, wisely said, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
Too late, I fear, in your case.
More than two words. Not one spoke out against it
@@dovetonsturdee7033only bullies benefit in silence, speak when you see something or there will be no one to speak when the mass murderers get to your family
3:46 i cant believe a whole team of adults scripted, heard and reviewed this statement and green lit it for publication
So if you criticize the Rockefellers you’re anti-Christian?
Okay then
you know what they say, to know who rules over you just look at who you're not allowed to criticize
@@andy-xz2uk 100%
I'm partial to the Mummy's curse story. That would make a great piece of fiction.
The Titanic sank in April 1912. The Federal reserve was established in December 1913. The new deep-sea submersible the Titan built by the company Ocean Gate was destroyed according to the US Navy on December 17th 2023 ironically on December 18th 1972, 51 years ago, Watergate occurred which was a massive cover-up of corruption at the highest level of Washington d.c. given that there were 18 months between the sinking of the Titanic and the establishment of the Federal reserve, I'd say we have until about December of 2024 before the US dollar mysteriously collapses overnight which is also interesting because that will be the month before the new President is sworn in
"Titan built by the company Ocean Gate was destroyed according to the US Navy on December 17th 2023"
I think you mean June 18th 2023 ?
Your comment aged like Milk. We are in 2025 .
Yeah it sunk on purpose. Remember when the guy said "God can't even sink this ship" God sank it
Yeah, remember that guy? He didnt exist. So much for that god theory huh
No one said “god can’t sink this ship”
@@cattanic494 The design engineer defiantly said that.
@@schmeesmclaren1570 there is no evidence Thomas Andrew’s ever said that
Y’all still believing in sky daddy’s in 2022…. Tragic
On purpose it would've been a bomb planted.. you don't drive into random icebergs. Then the captain, the spotters and basically the whole crew would've been in on it.
You also don't "drive" ships
Can you explain why this supposed bomb didn't automatically kill any of the stokers or firemen at the detonation point? Or why there are survivors from where this bomb allegedly went off who all testified to hearing long, jarring scraping and not a single explosion?
Billionaires are so rich they can put Icebergs in Titanics path.
Every time we market things using words lke "unsinkable" or "fireproof " I think it sends out a challenge to the powers that be & they're more than happy to prove us wrong.😃
These days the buzzwords are "smart" and "affordable".
Did you know there are Newspaper articles in the NY Times and the Washington Times from 21/7/1912 where a retired shipman named Peter Pryal claimed to have seen and spoken to Captain Smith in Baltimore, 3 months after the sinking.
This would be the same Pryal who, two years later, claimed that a miracle had cured him of eye & brain cancer in the course of a single night?
The aspect of this I find most difficult to understand, is that a former shipmate from the Majestic would grass up Smith to the Press, it`s just not the done thing.
There was a theory that Titanic and Olympic were switched. Olympic had gotten damaged when it collided with another ship and had to be taken back to the ship yard for repairs. At the time, Titanic was still being built, so, for insurance purposes, they switched the ships and Olympic sank on what have been Titanic’s maiden voyage.
This theory has been debunked. There is NO WAY that Olympic and Titanic could have been switched in the time she was in for repairs after the Hawke Collision among other issues with the theory itself.
Olympic was on a return trip from New York under the command of Herbert Haddock, and responded to Titanic's mayday signals. She passed through the area Titanic sank in just hours after bigger sister went down
Olympic was not badly damaged in the collision. Certainly nowhere near enough to even suggest that she was irreparable.
The Olympic was deemed at fault for the incident in which she was damaged. Thats why the White Starline Company couldn't claim on the insurance to repair the damage. Therefore, the repairs cost them A LOT of money, which is the main basis for this conspiracy theory.
However, there are many plot holes in the theory that the Titanic and Olympic were switched. There were key differences between the two that were advertised to attract customers who had travelled on the Olympic to get them to also travel on the Titanic. Many of the passengers on the Titanic had travelled on the Olympic, so would know if these new areas were not there as advertised.
Also, the hull numbers is stamped on every pieces of the ship. Every remaining piece of the Olympic seen after she was decomissioned is stamped with the correct number. This would not be the case of she sank in the Titanic's place.
That theory has been debunked countless times
"Big and honking"! Kinda like your mustache!! 🤣🤣
Here's an interesting fact: Murdoch never reversed the engines, he just stopped them.
Matt Real and his glorious stache is back!
Also, didn't Violet Jessop boarded Titanic?
Yes! Violet Jessop worked on the Titanic and I believe the Britannic. Both sank and she survived both! She has an amazing memoir that's definitely worth reading
0:32 literally shows a picture of the Lusitania
This video started so fast I thought I was at 1.25x speed
The last few years has taught me a valuable lesson never to discredit the conspiracy theorists.
And maybe to start calling them truthers.
Do you mean because they become offensive & insulting when you do?
@@TomFoti Only, perhaps, if they present a shred of evidence in support of their claims. Which, of course, none have ever done where Titanic is concerned.
"That's way less" UA-cam videos with info like this are starting to feel like rushed through school presentations
The worst thing about Titanic conspiracies is how often they make it into "legitimate" documentaries.
Everything from "they chose to use fewer safety boats because it wasn't cosmetically appealing", "the Captain was racing the ship to beat a world record", "the Irish cursed the shipped because they were underpaid (I mean they were underpaid, but I don't believe they sank an entire ship worth of people. If they had the power to sink ships, why wouldn't they have the power to get paid????) ", etc.
It's annoying because they don't clarify that it hasn't been verified and leads to a lot of misinformation being passed around as fact.
it is so annoying seeing people believe lies about titanic, its so sad and disrespectful to the victims and survivors
@@mauretaniafan1133 And when you try to correct them, they go on a whining stubbornly prideful tangent on their egotistical opinions of the lies, they want to feel special, so they act like it, and think they are above criticism because their egos can't take it
Speaks so fast, it’s difficult being partially deaf to understand everything. Closed Caption can’t keep up. On screen captions would be nice to make it more accessible.
I love when a video has the wiki article attached to it.
"for its maiden voyage" proceeds to show picture of the lusitania
0:32 that’s the damn RMS mauretania
The only viable “theory” is the idea that Jack and Rose definitely could have shared that platform, and that’s from a fictional movie. Everything else is complete and utter BS and has been thoroughly debunked by experts.
No they literally couldn't. Not only did the movie itself show that two of them being on it would cause it to flip or be too submerged in the water, they proved that on Mythbusters, too. They would literally have had to have added more buoyancy to the board, and even if they had known that, when you are panicking and freezing, your brain isn't going to think, "Hmm, maybe I should tie a life jacket to this board to keep it out of the water well enough to keep us both from dying from hypothermia."
@@englishatheart I thought they did prove it on Mythbusters? I never watched that show. And I’ve always heard people say that if they’d approached it from opposite sides it wouldn’t have tipped over because obviously it’s going to if you approach it from the same side. I guess it’s all BS, then. The conspiracies and the theory about the movie float.🤷🏻♀️
It submerged into the water due to the weight still doesn't keep them both alive in fact it leads to both of them dying more than likely.
@@jameslott748 As I said, didn’t watch the episode. I’ve just heard people say they busted it. I guess it’s all BS, then.😅😅
The facts are there was a fire on board which heated up the hull weakening the structure it shouldnt of left the dock in that state and coupled with the icey water made the structure brittle
The guy who spotted the iceberg from the crows nest killed himself 50 years later.
He never got over the guilt of not spotting the iceberg earlier.
50 yrs tho? He would've been an OLD man at that point.. he couldn't have felt that guilty if it took 50 yrs lol
Speaking of suicide, a year after the sinking, Lightoller's dad committed suicide by slashing his throat. I don't know how someone would slash his own throat. Makes me wonder if Lights told a relative something and the info got to his father in New Zealand & he started talking too much.
Or maybe he was sick of being forced to lie. I believe the crew were threatened into going with the official story.
@@daphneduryea9136 That does sound like something that could have happened, as it did with Morgan Robertson who got a bit mouthy over his 1898 book which accurately foretold the Titanic. His body was found in an Atlantic City hotel room having been poisoned, suicide was claimed but his death was classed as suspicious. Then there was the character suspected of being Capt Smith who died in similar fashion.
Doubt it.
This actually kinda feels like a Shane and Ryan episode, good job
Like when the Twin tower aerial guards suddenly went on vacay on Sept 11..
1:30 another problem with the lifeboats: by the time it became very clear that people needed to get into them, the ship was listing, which made it impossible to launch some of them, though the crew tried very hard.
The entire thing was a complete sh*t show from start to finish.
is this the same guy who said the earth is flat?
Probably
I really do want to believe it for the reason of the federal reserve opposition being on board, but I just don't understand how they could intentionally guarantee it would sink, nor how they would make sure those three wouldn't survive. As much as I'd love to believe it, it does seem like a bit of a stretch, even if it could be true.
Agree. They'd have to bride someone, but who would agree to intentionally put thousands of people and themselves in danger for 3 random rich guys.
@@Monicalia nobody knows if the captain was even there and not tied up
@@Tyrantus4 Nobody in their right minds would risk sinking a ship they are ON BOARD themselves.
@@Monicalia so you think the one responsible couldn't have slipped away unseen? With scummy politics and capitalist criminals, anything is possible. EDIT: I looked Capt. Edward John Smith. He died with the ship. But history is written by the survivors
ah yes! a person with common sense, I welcome you with open arms
If you knew a guy that had been kicked out of 100 shops out of the 200 in town, for turning the customers on each other with sneaking lies and manipulation, while stealing money out of the cash register, would you blame the shops or blame the guy?
7:58 Titanic on the righ seen with Uneven slits.
The titanic happend in 1912 your a little late on this
it’s called history and conspiracy
You’re *
Got to keep on these youngsters about grammer, learning is fundamental. ffs 😉😆
Doesn’t mean you can’t still learn about it.
@@cmgeisleman9438🤣😅😅
lol I knew something was up when I heard 1912 was the date the titanic sank. Immediately I thought 1913 the year the federal reserve was established. When u.s.a sold its soul to the monopoly mobsters. Monoply board game mustache man is J.P Morgan
I think the only conspiracy I would believe is the switch because that’s the only one that’s possible
Nope, not even the switch theory is possible, there were just too many alterations that had to be done to both ships for even the passengers to not notice. Not to mention the motives for even sinking the Olympic would not have made sense, weather it was for insurance (which she was underinsured) or even to get rid of her, from what we know during the Titanic’s sea trials and maiden voyage (which would have been Olympic according to the conspiracy) she was very much seaworthy and comfortable which does not make sense because according to the conspiracy the Olympic was so badly damaged that she was no longer in shape.
Wrong.
@@Johnathan04 when did the accident happen? I remember hearing it was leaning quite badly.
I guess when the other theories are antisemitism and blaming "the jews" and mummies, insurance fraud doesn't seem too out there 😄
@@Julesb2183 when the Olympic blew a perpeler valse it takes two days to fix it was thier next to the titanic for a month why and that’s when they said the switch happened plus the Olympic was heavily damaged and after titanic went down Olympic went on to live til 1935 hmmmm makes u think
It’s also safe to assume a mid Atlantic sinking would cost the company far more than the value of a single ship. Also why could they not have just filed an insurance claim to repair or replace the Olympic? The whole thing doesn’t add up from a CODB pov.
I believe it was both an insurance claim, and a double Cross to eliminate certain individuals aboard titanic
You suggest that an insurance claim which lost White Star £500,000 was a good idea?
Who were these individuals who were eliminated, by the way?
Who passed away on Titanic, who strongly opposed creating the federal reserve system???? Do some of your own research 🧐
I seriously recommend everyone here watch Titanic Animations video where he not only debunks the theory, but explains why it's literally impossible for it to be true
No way in hell the ship would have survived if it hit the berg head on. Ever see the under side of an iceberg?
Much like The Titanic's Advertisers the narrator doesn't know how Iceberg look & how much larger they are underneath.
No it wasn't
If I was the owner of the shipping company and was supposed to be boarding a ship that had 2 of it’s Coal stores on fire. I may have canceled my trip because the ship could have been fatally compromised. So this also opens the question ‘Was the Fire started on Purpose as a sabotaged or not & it was an accidental fire???
After hearing some evidence regarding the ships crew & report’s of the condition of the ship after the fire was bought ’Under control’
‘Was the Fire started on Purpose as a sabotaged or not & it was an accidental fire???' Neither, it was simply a smouldering coal fire, caused by spontaneous combustion of wet coal. Such things were not uncommon, and explain why IMM insisted that the bunkers of their ships were inspected on a daily basis.
Of course, the officers were not going to hit the iceberg head-on. They were trying to avoid it
So many of these facts have been disproven long ago. Did he look up a 2005 documentary or something before making up this video.
1. The engines were never reversed.
2. The head on collision idea was laughed at by experts in 1912.
3. Binoculars are not the best way to spot the iceberg. The naked eye is and binoculars are only used to verify what a spotted object is.
Do better research on the event before even attempting to talk conspiracies for fun.
For real
The term conspiracy means an agreement with 1 or more parties, NOT a tin foil hatter. Great video though!
passengers be like: oh no our boat its broken
It you’re walking through a minefield full of mines you can only see in the daylight. Would it be logical to Just stop and wait for daylight to keep moving?
Titanic wasn't steaming through a known minefield. She was in an area where, POTENTIALLY, there MIGHT have been icebergs. Smith did what any other liner captain of the time would have done, which was to maintain course and warn his lookouts to be vigilant. You should read the evidence given by several other liner captains at the British Inquiry for confirmation of this fact.
No they needed to be in the ice field for the planned sinking to happen.
The ship shown at 0:30 is actually titanic’s main competitor Lusitania
Yes. The large number of ventilation cowls are proof that she is a Lusitania class liner.
A Titanic 3 Way Center Propeller was put on The Center of Olympic, numbered 401 . You cannot tell the ships apart by The Center Propellor because both say 401 and are 3 way. Before April 1912 Olympic had a 4 way Center Propellor numbered 400. But The Other 2 Propellers both have numbers ! , so do the engines and crankshafts ! Those numbers could not be swapped in a week like The Center Propellor and ships items and hardwares. Another fact is Olympic was painted under Titanic on the lifeboats from The shipwreck covered up with a board ? How do You explain away that ? You won't see anything if you don't actually look into the facts. The Pictures of a 4 way propeller saying it is Titanic are actually Pre April 1912 Olympic photos. And the ship did break right where Olympic was damaged at The Keel. The other side has a inward to outward explosion on The Port side. Clearly something inside exploded outwards consistent with planting a charge in The boiler room. It could be the biggest Insurance Fraud of 1912 not to mention Mass Murder ! . I don't buy the breaking theory that the experts are saying because no water was in the rear of the ship and it was normal weight. But with a damaged Starboard side from a previous accident and a explosion on the port side Yes it could break in two ! . Huge Ships toss in waves during storms and they do not break in two ! , It was a calm ocean without any waves. And The Californian was doing nothing and ignoring flares , that is outrageous ! , The Californian was Another White Star Ship Owned by J.P. Morgan also ! . Why would they send Olympic 500 miles to save Titanic when Californian was just 5 miles away doing nothing ? Clearly White Star was behind what happened. Was The Iceberg a mere coincidence ? Or Planned as a smokescreen ? Did J.P. Morgan betray Captain Smith and Ismay ? , Was someone murdered on The ship before it sank and did the killer escape to The Californian ? . It looks that way by their actions. Too many things do not add up ! . Serial Numbers from The Engines and Crankshafts do not lie like people do !
This is what i get about the " if jt hit the ice burg head on it wouldn't have sunk " theory. Yes, it would have probably smashed the front of the ship, but it would only fill four of the watertight doors and it would still float, but a gash on the side would fill six and it would sink , if it hit it head on it probably would have definitely killed some people but no nearly as much as when it sunk, and they would have been able to send signals to other boats and safely transport the people to another ship and continue the journey on that one, if the hit it head on.
Ofcorse not! You are wrong! James Cameron sank the titanic literally in the movie that he directed!
Very well done Sir!
I’ve heard the mummy one more than a few times, curious to know which ship it was supposed to be on when returning to England
What happened to this channel? There used to be a mix of silly content (supernatural stuff) with actual unsolved cases. Now its just filled with either cases that have already been solved or just garbage.