gotta address these things, probably : 1. there are seven seasons of skins but i say there's six here because i keep forgetting that the fire/pure/airbender season exists, my bad 2. at one point in the video, i say chris' mom leaves him a thousand /dollars/ but, in my defense, it was a little slip up because the next time i refer to the same scene, i do say 'pounds.' don't take me to the guillotine just yet. 3. when i say the office u.s. and shameless u.s. improved upon elements of the original versions, what i mean is that those remakes ADDED to their takes on the shows instead of just being flat remakes with no -- how do you say -- *flavor*. anyway just so it's clear i do like both uk and u.s. versions of those shows . i felt i had to make that clear since i noticed a few people's feelings were hurt because they thought i hated the u.k versions. my bad um...so yeah
You forgot it was the start for Daniel Kaluuya as well. Of course he wasn'tthe main character though. I forgot his character's name, but he was in Season 1 or 2....? Then went on to do other stuff, most recently Black Mirror ep. 2 and Get Out
seventhseance i could never forget posh boy kenneth oml💚i had a whole section just on daniel & dev , how their characters in skins were portrayed and how they went on to do the best stuff but i had to shave down the run time :(
Henry Harrison well teenagers don’t normally get murdered by a doctor and get avenged by their best friend who had escaped jail and then goes on the run
Part of the reason is because they weren't afraid to say that sex, drugs and alcohol can actually be fun. Shows like 13 reasons why present them as things that only unhappy teenagers partake in which isn't the case at all. Of course they can lead to very serious issues but they don't always, and by saying this, they aren't glorifying them, they're just improving the programme's realism.
Yes, i was around age 25 when I first watched it on BBC America and I thought back to some of the teen shows I watched as a pre-teen/early teens (I didn't have the WB until I was 18) and Skins seemed to be less moralistic and not as black and white in their thinking. But the more I watch of current tv shows in this new decade, I"ve noticed there's more of a grey area in morality than in the 1990s. Or at the very least some American shows I watch show the PC morality of today. For example, you can't compare the black-ish/grown-ish/mixed-ish franchise to Saved By the Bell from the early 90s :D
Honestly I couldn’t relate to either versions of Skins. Always felt that like my teenage experience (and others) was much more mundane and routine than the shows out in.
its sucks the most when you realise that his life was just about to get good he used to be the funny weirdo kid and now he was a man with a job and a girlfriend he absolutely went through so much development so seeing his end was the worst thing ever
I think maxxie never had an episode to himself. In season one he was paired with anwar and then tony in season 2. Not to mention he didn’t get a lot of screen time and was never really a part of the main plots only subplots
If it were birds and bees it would’ve been better and still cute. The spiders were just nonsensical. It would make sense for uk Tony who has everyone trapped in his web. And the nudity would’ve made sense for us Tony who only cares about sex lol
uk skins did so well because it’s the most authentic show that literally had normal 16-19 year olds acting and showing stuff that happens all the time in this country. add the dry british humour on top of that and there’s no way it could be remade successfully
I'm sure they were in their early 20s at the time cus of it's sexual nature but they still passed as any average British teen which is what made it feel authentic
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 The main cast were nearly all underage in all 6 series. I think Freddie's sister was 19 when the series was shot, but she's his older sister anyway. Effy was 14 in season 1, 16-17 in season 3-4. etc.
bro idk i don't think you can make a US version of a show that portrays such stereotypical british teen life and get it to succeed in the same way. it just hits different
Kat Fml this!!! yes yes yes and truly i think the same applies for the days like these (the british version of that 70s show). both skins and t7s are very obviously shows about the english teen experience and american teen experience respectively. to remake either without adjusting to the cultural differences just makes it...not work
@@Yharazayd yessss! there are certain shows that rely on the cultural aspects to work, like Shameless, for example. Both versions work because they're self aware - they know that certain scenes, lines and behaviours just won't work when broadcasted to their target demographic (UK vs USA) the only example that tried this and failed to the point where i wanted to genuinely CRY was the inbetweeners. holy SHIT that made me want to tear out my eyeballs and throw them in a river. i really did lose all faith in everything and anything after that
Yeah I moved around a lot as a kid an lived in several European countries as a kid/teen and lots of the experiences where quite similar but living in the US for a year being a teenager there is so different from anything I had experienced before.
Laura Hall I agree. Effy glorified it and Cassie is a prime example if mental health and how ANY disorder is crippling to a human being. I feel Effy was manipulative in that concept, but I could be wrong.
Everyone I knew wanted to be Effy in high school. Not many people wanted to be like Cassie, except for wanting her ED. I think it's largely because of how beautiful Kaya is, and how the whole "mysterious" persona was very "in" in high school.
Dude they got rid of Maxxie for a "Lesbian" character that spent the whole season with a guy, looks to me that they didn't want to include homosexuality.
i’m so mad about that especially because they could’ve just established her as bisexual (which i’m p sure is statistically a more common sexuality anyways?) and it would’ve been totally fine!! but tv hates making bi characters ugh it sucks
Freddie literally one of the most boring characters in all 3 generations. He is second only to Nick and Matty. I never understood why Effy loved him. He is so bland, jesus.
« We have a cool and lovable gay character who’s cool for LGBT’s visibility, let’s turn him into a lebian not really lesbien girl who’s straight guys dream ». Yes, perfect.
Allie True but I think I it had sum to do with that show where they do the play/musical with sketch. I don’t think recreating that scene would have been acceptable in America 😛🤷🏽♂️
I always wondering if the decision to make Maxie into Tea had anything to do with homophobia. Yes they're both queer characters, but in general people seem to be more accepting of lesbians than gays. Also, it's much easier for people to see Tea experimenting with a guy than to see Tony experimenting with a guy.
@@TheRealityofFake it's less that lesbians are more accepted it's more that they're more sexualised which is definitely very much where they went with Tea
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 Cassie was very manipulative. She used her illness to get what she wanted, she even says so herself in an episode. It's just not as obvious as Tonys manipulation for example because she puts on the sweet and innocent facade.
I don’t know if it’s exactly on purpose that she’s manipulating. As someone who has experienced a similar mental illness to Cassie I see her behavior as a side effect of that. She’s not thinking clearly because the things aren’t connecting in her mind like they would normally. She’s running on empty. I’ve been in that spot and it’s a haze. it is manipulating that comment but I don’t think it’s purposeful
the whole thing about effy is that she’s dark, which is exaggerated by her makeup and brunette hair, and she has a mysterious and quiet personality. her voice in the american version is too bubbly and high pitched. i don’t get why americans had to attempt to remake it.
late to this but the us version of skins was written and created by the same people who created and wrote the uk version. the us version is trash in my opinion but you can’t discount the fact that the original creators also made this version and casted it as well. I guess they were going for something different but it just didn’t resonate with people. with new viewers and skins uk fans alike.
Tea Lady Nope just for the channel it was on. America has plenty of TV shows of this nature, just not on MTV. Skins US was trash but people love shitting on American TV in general, but no with this it was just a bad channel choice.... well for starters.
Abbie Xxx I found out about Skins during my high schools when I was interested in Teresa’s actress from Maze Runner. I was interested in her & started watching Skins bc of her
Omg don't come for Kurt I love him sm😭 he did have his own storylines i dont think its fair to say he was just the gbf because he and rachel werent even close until much later
Yeah, if You hated it now imagine how actual lesbians felt about that. 😑 At least they should have not mislead the audience to get cookies for being so prrrrogrrrresive 🙄
Cadie was much more realistic and relatable to me, as Cadie was mixed race and abused prescription drugs, as I did. I now see Cassie with different eyes. She was a "manic pixie dream girl" who could act selfish and hurtful. In some ways I relate, but she was unnecessarily cruel at times. I have mental illnesses and struggle with food, too, but I try not to hurt others even if unintentionally.
@@t.castro4493 Cassie I feel was someone who acted selfish and hurtful for sure, for example leaving after Chris' death instead of staying and coping, but that was caused by how blatantly her family and friends ignored her and her clear cries for help. I think she was portrayed in a way where she was representing having mental illnesses and struggling with food, ect but having no one give a single fuck when they all knew what was happening. You see how little they cared about her in season 1 when Michelle and tony are talking about her with Sid. She represented a way that people respond to having mental illnesses and struggling but not having those closest to them try to help them. She was selfish and came off as hurtful and unnecessarily cruel at times from the way she was trying to be the one that cared about her, her subconscious trying to protect her and care about her. This subconscious need to protect herself and care about herself shown through how in her episode she keeps getting signs to eat. Cassie and Cadie were meant to portray the same character in a way but also not, they were aimed at different audiences, they both had different reactions to how those around them were. Cassie like Cadie abused prescription drugs and also other drugs. No one tries to hurt others intentionally or even unintentionally when struggling with mental illness but mental illnesses themselves can cause people to start only thinking about themselves. Her portrayal of her struggle did reflect what many with mental illnesses do as well as the automatic subconscious or fight or flight response that out bodies have. Cassies flight or flight response being to run away, which came off as selfish and hurtful. They both portray the differences in people who are struggling the same way but reacting to it differently. The other thing to remember is that the other characters in the show with Cassie knew all about her issues, they were all friends and a group and knew each other for a long time clearly however they never cared enough to show cassie they cared about her, she was so happy when she thought sid was giving her signs to eat. She was unnecessarily cruel at times but she was like that because she felt let down by the others.
@@reechaaryal8094 Interesting analysis. I do understand what you say, and I relate to "running away" because I think that I don't deserve to have friends, and for the past 3 years I'm cutting off contact with others. I suppose that what you say can hold true, as I've hurt people without meaning to, and one of those times I wanted the best for me and for my friend (we were going through a rough patch and to this day we aren't speaking, but I tried to make amends). And yes, Cassie did also abuse drugs, but Cadie seemed to depend on them more. My complaint about Cassie acting selfish isn't only aimed at her character, because pretty much everyone in the series is like that, and it's one of my frustrations with the show nowadays. When I first watched Skins back in 2010, I was only 13, and thought that it was perfect, but everything has pros and cons. As I said before here on UA-cam, the US version makes more sense to me these days, because the characters are kinder to each other and act like genuine friends, and the situations seem more grounded in reality, in contrast to some things that happened in Skins UK. Skins US features a bit less hedonism too. I'm one of those people who feels lonelier after watching the show.
@@t.castro4493 Yeah of course they are all rude to eachother. I've realised they are all really self centered in the UK version but have realised that makes them even more realisitic as teenagers. Theyre all so absorbed in themselves that they cant realise that they have friends around them who need them, I do however feel like the Uk version does portray them as real friends, they are theyr'e for eachother through rough times just are all also going through their own shit and having to grow up at the same time. As an Australian I feel the UK version does portray how we are in friendships and how we talk amongst ourselves, it seems rude but is all loving. Everything has its pros and cons, I havent been able to find the US version but I do feel the UK version is realistic for what age they are at. Also you do deserve friends dont let yourself believe that you dont.
@@reechaaryal8094 Hmm, IMO, there was a bigger sense of unity in Series 5 (things went down the gutter in Series 6). Although, some fans have said the opposite; that the third generation characters weren't really close. I identified a lot with them in S5, but there was a change in writing staff and they modified too much. In Gen 1, the biggest problem was Tony as he was a master manipulator and a huge narcissist who caused problems. I suppose a lot of teens are self-centered, heh. In Misfits, the characters also acted like jerks but they cared about each other. As for the US version, you can find it online. I can't mention anything here or YT will censor the comment, but try searching around for "Skins US S01E01". I'd advise watching it with an open mind without comparing with the original... Skins US should have been a separate series with another name. That would have resulted in less criticism. There's an Aussie teen drama that is very much like Skins, it was called SLiDE and unfortunately only had one season. It seems extremely rare and was forgotten by most. I have yet to watch it, but it seems good. Here in Brazil, they aired Aussie shows that were usually meant for kids or younger teens. I watched Mortified. Thanks for the advice, I'll try to come out of this self-imposed isolation, but I become nervous.
Money America and Americans love money. Copying an already successful show is easy and simple and practically already has an audience. Honestly it’s pretty smart.
Pssht, who told you that lie? Considering Brits had to change their voice, bc they didn't want to sound like Americans, I'd say you aren't as mysterious as you believe yourself to be.
QR One we didn’t change our voices , your decadents were mostly midlanders who sounded American back then but because they started talking more like northerners so our voices changed naturally not just because we don’t want to sound like you smh
@@1rockcrawford ...you do realise you kinda just contradicted your "point" there, right? when people want to be mysterious (hide shit about themselves and be aloof) they change their mannerisms eg. their *voice* , fashion sense and reactions to things. brits changing their voices would technically mean they're being mysterious.
This wasnt the main focus of the video, but it did catch my attention because I never knew about it before, But I disagree about Cassie being a character that romanticises mental health. I personally saw her whimsicalness and fairylike beahviour as her being insane and not coping. Almost everyone around her in the show acknowledged that something was wrong with her and alot of times she was a character of messed up morals (especially in the second season). I dont know, maybe its because when I think romanticising mental health I think more about the shit show that is 13 reasons why.
@@Yharazayd Oh i know it wasnt your personal view. (I loved your video by the way.) I just never knew that some people had this view about her character or that the argument exsisted is all.
Samina Nishat personally i absolutely love her bc i identify so strongly with her bc i have a very distant attachment style and i hate getting close to others
The story got repeative... Every year somebody was gay. 😒 every year somebody had a pregnancy scare. From watching skins...i noticed no one causally used drugs and if they did it would turn into a after school special. 😒
Omg yes! The first 6 seasons of degrassi were very strong n well written. It changed a bit of direction in season 8. But yeah they kinda lost the buildup or growth of some of the characters. There's still many topics they never fully addressed.
i think that Skins (uk) doesn’t need any kind of reboot or remake. it was unique, and a show about teenagers is very different in 2007-2010 than now. now there’s Euphoria, i think it has the guts to be the Skins of this new generation
@@maverickbull1909 skins is more "iconic" and it was the og. but that's pretty much it. euphoria is more cohesive and engaging. they don't ruin characters left and right like skins did.
I think Tony was pretty middle-class... in the Gen 1 episode Effy appeared in, when she first met Panda, the two of them are both attending the same private school as Abigail. Plus, Tony’s accent is pretty middle-class.
Yeah I was gonna say...maybe it's less clear as an American viewer but those kids weren't all working class. I'd say Tony, Effy & Michelle (in addition to Jal, which she mentions) are all middle class. The only ones that jump out to me as being definitely working class are Sid, Chris and Maxxie. Not too sure about Cassie and Anwar.
@@caras1366 Cassie’s parents were middle class trying to live and be penniless “artist hippies”. They live in a nice house and have middle class accents but are trying to live this weird “artist boho commune” thing which makes them neglectful, so that shows when they have sex in front of their kids, her mum’s fully painted in the nude by her dad (with wide open legs lol) and the house is a mess because they thought it was “free” and “bohemian” but was actually very neglectful and bordering on child abuse. In Skins Pure, after Cassie’s dad has a breakdown and Cassie has to end up looking after her little brother, you can tell her dad wasn’t really like that at all, and was actually a weak man, who actually didn’t know how to care for his kids, so the fake boho lifestyle was an avoidance thing and coping mechanism, I think. Skins Pure actually builds on Cassie’s dad’s character really well and adds a lot of depth. I don’t think we actually ever see Anwar’s parents, come to think of it?
they could have just got another sad dancer kid who’s gayness was intended for the gay audience to replace maxxie, and yeah, he was somewhat of a stereotype, but not nearly as much as tea was, and tea’s lesbianism was not intended for the gays, she was in there for the straights
Maxxie was never developed fully and was stereotypical. I am a gay FTM and Franky in Series 5 was more relatable to me. Tea doesn't end up with Tony, she was deeply confused at the time and is even called out for going out with him. It's also possible for gay people to date others of the opposite sex for a while. This happens a lot. I've been attracted to girls before, even though I prefer males.
Apparently there was a lot of controversy around the remake due to the ages. There are differences to note here in the UK that might change the feel of the overall show. Here in the UK school technically ends at 16, for a while you had the choice at 16 to go straight into work, start an apprenticeship or you can continue your studies (which is currently what most people do). If you continue your studies you spend two years at a place we call college or sixth form. Officially they are known as Sixth Form Colleges and there you study 4-6 subjects of your choice which are supposed to narrow your decision on what to study at a University College, where you study for an honours degree. Skins was set at one of these colleges, so most of the characters are between the ages of 16-18, but as far as they are concerned they are no longer at school, they have more freedom than they would at a school, they would refer to their teachers by their first names rather than calling them 'sir' or 'miss' like you would at school. Therefore sixth form college is effectively not unlike college in North America in that young people feel they can let their hair down and enjoy life more. Also, and I think this is worth mentioning given the nature of Skins, whilst alchohol is illegal in the UK until the age of 18, the age of consent is officially 16. So when the characters in Skins are having sex, many are doing so for the first time, and it's not considered 'wrong' because as far as they are concerned they have reached the age of consent. This has an effect on the sense of 'freedom' the characters have that those in the North American version wouldn't. In the NA version they are still at school, they still have the same social circles, the same restrictions (except that they can drive) they can't reinvent themselves the way we can in the UK at a Sixth Form college, it's a different experience overall.
I think the problem with remakes is that British shows tend to have very specific British humour . Some of which is even regional. So it is very hard to remake unless you have trying to replace it with American humour. For example to accent, some posh kids actually speak like that in UK, which I suspect is contrary to popular US belief.
Tea is there for nothing else but fetishisation and mens pleasure. A unique type of covert homophobia. Maxxie was removed because of overt homophobia. Personally, I don't like the Katie and Stan thing because it's... weird. They're very contrasting, but not in the way Sid and Cassie are. It feels like they were too afraid to make a character as dainty yet sick as Cassie.
I think they thought they were doing a good Maxxie counterpart with Tea. They're both very attractive, and people of different genders wanted to be with them. But they actually showed *why* Maxxie was appealing - yeah he's handsome and a flirt, but he's also caring and loyal and a very good friend. Tea, well the show seemed to be saying 'she's a hottie lesbian who is also down with sleeping with men, what else ya need? Certainly not a respectably-written character!'
Tea was deeply confused and bored at the time. It's also possible for gays to go out with someone of the opposite gender. I'm a gay FTM and I've kissed girls. She was much more nuanced and likeable. Maxxie was never fully developed and was a stereotype (he dressed camp once in a while and liked musicals and dance). Rewatching both shows 10+ years later, I find Skins US more realistic. Certain characters are better and there's a bigger sense of friendship.
I don’t think Effy necessarily romanticized mental health (bc everyone keeps saying that) I think it’s the way the audience perceives it. Effy’s character wasn’t seen as “romanticizing mental health” until it became an aesthetic on Pinterest, Tumblr, and etc. Her character is a natural party girl but I think her partying is a way her character copes with her issues.
I agree. I don’t think romanticising mental health was what they meant to do at all. I just think that the fact that Effy is such an interesting character that everyone loves made them get the wrong idea about the problems that she had and see it as part of her mysterious personality
They did romanticize it on occasion. Like, wtf was up with that storyline with a grown ass shrink that wants to sleep with her (ew) and kills Freddy (bleh, shock value).
They did romanticise it a bit. This girl who LITERALLY did not speak was wanted or respected by everyone in the early seasons. Remember the "Everybody loves me" line she says to Sid, that's pretty tongue in cheek imo. All the times characters rushed in to try and save her (usually from herself lol). I think it could have definitely been toned down.
21:54 can't believe you left out what happened immediately after this...the greatest thing in skins history.........the cast including just hit by a bus tony breaking out into cat stevens' "wild world"
I watched the original first in 2010 and now I prefer the remake, because the characters are better to each other and situations less exaggerated. The soundtrack also reminds me of my adolescence back then. I listened to some of the artists that appeared (although, same with the UK).
I never saw Skins US so hearing about how Tea’s character as a lesbian was handled makes me so upset and angry,,. Like the lesbophobia really jumped out
Some homosexual people go out with the opposite sex. I'm a gay trans guy who has kissed women. "Gold star" is a bad concept. Tea never had a positive experience with Tony, everybody called her out on it, and she stays with Betty in the end.
different cultures, different slang, different laws, and just in general the people in the US can’t really relate to any of it because it’s not type of thing that’s shown here and on tv until more recently
Believe it or not, people around the world can appreciate different cultures, without the need of watching the same thing but as a national remake that's how we learn other languages, it's okay to be out of your comfort zone and watch the original show or movie, old boy is just an example shown on the video, is a master piece and what they did changing it to an American version is just horrible, you don't have to americanize everything just because it's not your culture, Parasite is amazing and I hope they don't dare to make an American version too, dark, in the mood for love, el laberinto del fauno, fleabag, are just a few that come to mind that are not American and are amazing, no need to change it just because it doesn't show your own culture
Honestly Americans are like aliens to anyone outside of the country. Americans talk about Euphoria like “this is the realest teen show ever” while everyone is like “uhhhh cool show but no where near reality”.
I think cassie potrayed eating disorders and depression very well. It's one of the most realistic potrayals I've seen. As someone who suffers with an eating disorder and depression I can say that sometimes you do go a little bit lulu with the lack of nutrience and depression on top (trying to hide it by acting happy).
As someone who was actually a British teenager at the time this was airing, saying it never glamorized drugs/partying is just... wrong lol literally everyone I knew wanted their life to be like Skins
I feel like a loser when watching Skins now because my adolescence was awful and depressing. I did drugs and had sex after I turned of age but I didn't have fun. Skins definitely glamourised hedonism and other topics.
Part of what made Skins UK so unique was that most of the crew were also under 25. It was created and consulted by people who were close to the age of the protagonists, and it was fearless. It was a major thing to basically scrap the whole cast and start over. It's still one of my favourite shows and more than holds up against other teens series that have come after. IMO they should have just aired the UK version in the US. Whatever makes the UK version so unique and special got lost in translation. That said, the final generation at widely agreed as pretty crap in comparison to the Stonem seasons.
Gen3 Series 6 was one of the best written Seasons of it all. Tbh! Series 4 from Gen 2 was garbage. Gen3 had More likeable charas than Gen2 tbh. Gen2 had waaaay too many dead weight
@@GLBizzie I really enjoyed the S5 (first of Gen 3) although it is very different tonally to the others and I'd say feels less gritty and less quintessentially British. Personally really hated S6 but personal taste! Just replying bc I don't see many others who like the G3 characters. I do feel now that time has passed that S1 holds up the most though.
@@caras1366 i recently made myself watch gen 3 and i also loved s5! s6 was a nightmare tho, losing grace and frankie being The Actual Worst 😭😭 imo liv and mini had the best development but the love triangle with the brothers felt like such deadweight. gen 1 definitely still holds up as my favourite out of lot now that i’ve seen the whole series lmao
The trailer for Maxxie's episode on season 1 changed my life, yes... just the trailer. It was the first time I saw a gay character being pround of who he was. I did not know the name of the show, I saw the trailer on christmas eve and I kept watching the same channel so I could watch it again
I can't believe it's been 14 years since S1 came out and it had not ONCE dawned on me that 'Mad Twatter' was a play on 'Mad Hatter'. *head in hands emoji*
Series 6 was amazing! Grace Death and Alo/Mini and Rich developement.. Even Nick had some Character developement. I think Gen 3 was the realest of them all. Gen2 had an epic start But ended piss poor while Gen3 started weak But ended on a high and the Finale Episode even made up for it
Euphoria's success proves that Skins should've been brought to a pay channel, first of all. But that isn't the only reason for Skins failing. I really believe by the time Elsley brought Skins to the US he was completely out of touch with not just youth in general but especially American youth. He and the people he was working worth could not translate the show for American audiences. Also, the talent on Skins UK far exceeded the actors they found for US. Anyway, doesn't matter, because Euphoria is the remake American audiences deserve. It has the talent, money, direction, editing, and production American audiences needed. Because of the budget Skins UK had it does give a more raw aesthetic imo but I'm not sure that would work here, not right now anyway.
I completely agree with you that Jal deserved better. She was my favorite character in the first gen and the one I related to the most. Larissa was so underrated on that show.
I remember watching just the one episode and never bothered with it again. American Tony was just an unlikable douche, Nicholas Hoult's Tony was also an asshole but somehow crazy charming and likable.
That's the best bit about Nicholas' Tony. One minute you wanted to hit him next minute you wanted to kiss him. The push and pull that his character made you feel was one of the best things about the show imo
Nicholas Hoult's Tony was supposed to be that edgy charming badboy stereotype who fucks you and then fucks you up. typical character cliché. Same goes for Effy, the beautiful bad girl tumblr grunge chick whose entire personality revolves around "sex, drugs, alcohol, trouble" and who makes depression look cool 🙄 such edgy much cringe
Give it another try, watch past the pilot. I prefer the characterisation in Skins US nowadays, because a lot of the characters in the original were exaggerated and unlikeable. In Skins US, they are nicer and they all hang out with each other, which gives off a feeling of unity.
I never knew there was an American remake, but seeing this, that girl cannot play Effy, she doesn’t portray effy the way she’s supposed to be. Effy is supposed to be mysterious and edgy and kind of empty in a way. The actress in the American remake almost seems like she’s trying too hard. I don’t think she’s fit for the role of effy at all.
Come on, Eura barely appeared and you didn't even watch the remake anyways. How are you supposed to judge? I like Eura more, she's cute and actually does seem more mysterious (see her character trailer).
Talk about adaptation. Thailand’s series called “Hormones” is actually adaptation of Skins. It’s clearly got some inspiration but written in the new culture and concept that just make it refreshing and impactful.
Finally someone who knows about Hormones. I have to watch it still, only found out after the fanbase moved on to other things. Skins US was good too, most people who judge have never seen it.
But she didn't do any real sex scenes or anything sexual until she became of age around the time of generation 2. One of the first big scenes of s3e1 has Effy having wild sex Cook for instance to, I guess, showcase Kaya's new adulthood?
@@Whackadoo1 I can't remember who said it but until a certain age you are actually really more imagining the scenes are real and not really acting. Our brain cannot difference between pain/shame/fear that is real and unreal. That's why you maybe can't sleep after a good horror game. You were scared and your brain does know it's just a game but your fear is still real. I think the actress mentioned being very uncomfortable in those scenes and it's actually sad that she started the role with 14. In the end she didn't seem to have taken any further harm from it but that doesn't mean other countless girl's or boys haven't.
The actors on Skins US were 15-19. It was one of the reasons the adaptation was cancelled. April Pearson (Michelle) was deeply uncomfortable when doing the NSFW scenes and so was Laya Lewis (Liv).
Tea is a nuanced person and she doesn't stay with Tony (she never needed to be a "gold star lesbian" anyway). Maxxie was a camp gay stereotype and was never developed properly.
Skins UK was just so raw and emotional, with actual teens playing teens. While I still love soapy shows like Glee and One Tree Hill, nothing really compares to Skins (with the exception of Euphoria).
Skins US is good too, and the soundtrack contributes to a certain atmosphere just like the original. The actors were also teens and that's one of the reasons it was cancelled. As for other shows, there's that one called Skam but I didn't like it :/ I'm a fan of teen dramas in general and one of my favs is Degrassi, but it can be a bit cheesy for most folks. I should watch Hormones: The Series. It's a Thai teen drama that was inspired by Skins.
I feel like the us remake makes it too teen show-ish, less realistic and the pacing of the dialogue isn't as spaced out as it is in the UK version. the way they space it out and don't have backing music most of the time makes it seem more real. I guess the American accents make it seem faker to me cuz British is closer to Australian which is what I am
the accent thing is because a lot of American tv shows dont use realistic dialog. I loooove skins uk, i grew up bilingual german and (american) English.
the thing is most of the actors weren't american: they're canadian, and it was filmed in canada also. so there's this other layer here of a uk show being made by candians for an american audience. and even though a lot of the rest of the world seems to think that canada is just polite america, it's still a completely different country with a different culture.
I used to work on skins for seasons 2 and 3 (UK). I was a PA and an occasional extra for a few of the scenes in the college and some of the house party scenes. Doing that and studying at Uni it was pretty damn daunting but at the same time Incredibly Exciting, even with long hours on set and burning the candle at both ends to keep up with my course work. I felt comforted that the program I worked on at the time was doing so well and was relatable to so many. I also got to talk with a few cast members occasionaly all lovely people and weirdly enough with out even knowing this prior to working on skins, Cook is related to one of my friends. He's also a nice guy but definately a wild one not all that different from his character Cook to be honest. Well I've reminisced now, that was a nice trip down memory lane and boy do I feel old now haha. Thank you for making this, I really enjoyed watching it. I hope you enjoyed making it and please continue to make more videos of in depth analysis of shows you love, hate or wondered "what ever happened to" You've clearly got a talent for this, that's definately a sub from me =]
p.s. I was dissapointed to hear that they were making a US version of skins, I thought maybe it would appeal to everyone of the same age in the US but it was never really adapted properly for their audience. No disrespect to the cast of the US version, just a bad attempt to cash in on an already succesful program.
I don't really think so because when you strip down the show to cause and effect, misery always follows drugs/partying. Their lives are a trainwreck. I watched the show when Inwas sixteen and it really changed how I viewed party culture (the county I live in has the highest rates of teen alcoholism in Germany and the town I went to school in is the third biggest small town when it comes to drug sales). Before skins it was this sort of magical thing that only cool kids were allowed to participate in and after I saw it as the true misery it really is, which inspired me to start writing. I have a lot of friends who were really clpse to ruining their lives and without skins I would have dove in much deeper than I have.
slushpuppie19 I gotta agree with you there. I enjoyed skins on the whole and it did show some consequences for the partying. However characters literally would sink a bottle of vodka pop a handful of pills while smoking a joint and walk around like they were a bit tipsy. Watching as a teen the girls seemed hot and the guys cool I don’t give a fuck types. Unfortunately I can’t relate to any of the experiences depicted as I was a slightly goofy grammar school kid. Inbetweeners was me lol. Still skins was entertaining.
@@joew2450 that's literally how partying went in my area. I know people who can drink several shots, long drinks and beers and you won't notice that they're drunk at all. I guess it really depends on region etc. when it comes down to how you perceive the show.
@@joew2450 exactly! I never felt there were any direct consequences to their actions. In Fresh Meat someone OD'd and it had consequences, when Cassie took a 'shitload of pills' she woke up and they all had a good laugh lol
@@leaf1885 You're probably right the region you live does have an effect. I'm late 20s now and had my own ahem...experiences but still think the level of drugs and alcohol they would take in 5 minutes would be heroic even for a seasoned space cadet.
Skins was insanely relatable and real. It was raw too. The actors were actual real teenagers and didn’t look perfect and prim - they looked real. It ALSO didn’t glamorize all of the issues, illnesses and addictions in the show. Unlike many shows now days. Skins made me feel like I was seen. Unlike pretty little liars or even gossip girl.... idk
Skins US is more relatable to me nowadays and I started with the original in 2010. Though Franky in Series 5 was me in fictional form. I am a gay trans man who likes androgyny, had no friends and suffered from bullying. Unfortunately, they changed her.
Skins does have a problem with glamourisation of hedonism. A lot of us viewers feel lonely when watching because it forces the idea that you should be as "cool" as the characters. It's like, if you're not partying at a rave at 16, then you're not really living. Some kids tried to be like Cassie or Effy, which is a no-no.
The only thing i hated about Skins was that they always killed off one person from the friend group. Freddie’s and Graces deaths were two things i couldn’t recover from. Especially Grace because they didn’t need to do my boy Rich like that.
Can I just say, in Effy's episode, it is somehow so easily able to dive deeper into her character dispite the fact that you barely knew her character before this. That is because it was HER! EPISODE! It actually focused on her with the other characters being, basically, side characters. But even then, you could see the character growth from EVERYONE involved in that episode, especially her. In Eura's episode it wasn't focused on her in the slightest. And even the characters that the episode did focus on, Tony and Stan, didn't have any growth whatsoever.
This makes me wanna rewatch skins but I’m still not sure I’m emotionally ready for it even though it’s been four years. And I don’t think the American version could have even come anywhere CLOSE to capturing the emotional distress the deaths of Freddie and Grace caused had it continued, its for the best they didn’t get the chance to try
I feel like unlike Skins, somehow Euphoria has such a consistent depressing feeling to it. Like Skins, the show is dark, and talks about the real things - the good and the bad - and is also very realistic, which is appreciated, but where Skins adds humor and a lightheartedness to its storyline, Euphoria lacks it to a considerable degree. Maybe I’m full of shit, but Skins touched my heart where Euphoria couldn’t.
@@zazaurum600 I honestly love euphoria, maybe it's not realistic at all, but I honestly loved it, loved zendaya's performance, loved how drug addiction was portraied in this show, loved overall atmosphere of the show as well. However it's very different from skins.
I love the whole Josh-Effy kidnap scene because of how well it wrapped up. It seems crazy at first, but then you realise he never really wanted Tony to do that to her, he just wanted to make Tony apologise and see him suffer as revenge, which makes sense since he’s off his meds. He’s not crazy enough to make Tony do that, just enough to conduct a plan to screw him up. He gives Effy pure grade pharmaceuticals since he doesn’t really want to hurt her, and he could’ve got them from work so it’s not too unusual. It all seems like it’s gonna be a case of a TV show making something stupid or unrealistic happen for the sake of it, but it turns out to be really well thought out and explained in a way that makes sense, which makes it all fit together.
To say Skins was "fairly successful" is Britain is a huge understatement. That show defined an entire generation in this country. I can't think of a piece of media that influenced me more as a young teen.
Skins us failed because parents didn’t want to see Americans kids do: drugs, sex, partying etc. when that’s the same way they (the parents) grew up. Skins uk is my all time favorite show in the multiverse. I wish skins us didn’t cancel.
uuh I disagree, this show is for teenigers not for kids anyways so the adressed group wouldn't even rely on what their parents "allowed" them to watch. euphoria has also got all of these things and everyone loves it so..
mother how come? Did you find it was written poorly or because it was just too dark? Cook’s final story was almost a bit over the top for me but at least Cassie got a happy ending.
Sneha Roy oh we do coz Cooks episode were amazing besides the psycho thriller going on lmao But his final words at the end of it are Legendary and couldn’t be more true to growing up
Aye I live in Bristol and skins to this day can be considered an accurate representation to what happens here as a college student/ sixth former sometimes.. it’s too fucking realll. Legit the place where Effy was drugged by josh is the same sports grounds I went for PE lmfaoo.
I love that you mention Shameless and The Office. Both shows actually found a way to change to fit American audiences. I actually liked a few of the actors in the remake, so I felt terrible when I hated this.
I love skins so much, but a lot of people are saying euphoria is like a reincarnation but I dont see the resemblance other than the fact that they both have experiments with sex and drugs.
Yeah people who compare them either never watched more than an episode of Skins UK or didn‘t got the whole thing around it lmao. I mean Cooks character or Tony Stonem Series 1/2 were so well written and Rich/Mini/Alo too from Series 5-6
not at y'all being snobs and trying to shit on euphoria. it's a good show, stop being whiny bc kids today like it more than skins. also the resemblance is bigger than that, like each episode focusing on a different character with their own issues and having a few events here and there that end up connected. it was definitely influenced by skins imo.
Luca Peyrefitte The OG Gossip Girl lost me during Season 4.. I did watched the rest to learn who GG actually really was. I wish I would’ve never known that by now lmao
I loved the British Skins. It reminded me more of my high school experience than any other "teenage" show out there. It was real, it was raw - sex, drugs, crazy parties, depression, pressure from family/friends, eating disorders, etc. People don't want to think their kids are doing or experiencing these things but a lot of them are. They're reaching out for connections and understanding, even if through drugs and partying. I also liked that they didn't always frame the drug use, sex and partying as the issue with these kids. Those things are definitely for fun, and can be a symptom of trying to cover up sadness and other issues, but sometimes it really is just fun. Which is the real reality behind teens growing up. But the partying, etc. isn't always a cry for help. So i really liked how the raw and the dirty was framed in the original Skins - it was REAL.
Skins US was also realistic, and the characters more likeable. They seemed like genuine friends. Almost everybody in Skins UK is a jerk or turns into one (Franky in S6 was one of my biggest disappointments as I connected to her on a deep level in S5). And by the way, not every kid has the lifestyle shown on Skins. I didn't, and I first started watching at 12. After my adolescence ended, I did have certain experiences but they weren't fun, only traumatic. I used drugs to escape reality and barely had positive effects. For many of us, "Inbetweeners" is more reflective of teenagehood.
I really found it kind of weird that Sid went from a kind of gross dork to a greasy stoner. I know it sounds like a lateral move but like... it almost made him as cool as Tony as opposed to a loser by comparison. I just didn’t like it.
2:17 I actually don't completely agree that Skins didn't glorify drug abuse and other issues. I started watching it when I was 13 (admittedly too young and very impressionable) but Cassie ended up furthering my ED and the overall drug abuse led to me really wanting to try just about anything lol. Love the show tho.
I actually completely agree, same happened to me. But the problem is no matter how a show presents issues people will always find a way to romanticize it
I get where you are coming from, but I still think it didn’t glorify anything. The thing is when you’re in a bad place you want to escape so even tho you saw how awful an ed ,drugs,cheating, depression and lying is, you don’t care because you’re already f*ed up in your head. You were triggered by Cassie because of something that was already an issue for you.
LL I get where you’re coming from, thank you for sharing that story haha. I get that, throwing parties and experimenting with drugs out of boredom. But I still think that things like eating disorders and depression aren’t caused by tv shows, don’t think it’s helpful either, to watch a dark show like skins when you’re feeling down. But we still do it haha
@@marlou.w I never said that the tv show created my issues I said that it furthered what was already there. TV shows don't create mental problems lmao. My point is that since there are virtually no consequences for anything that the characters do (mainly the near constant drug abuse) it does in fact glorify that behaviour.
Kristin I don’t agree, Cassie almost dies, Effy almost dies Chris actually dies. You see them feeling like shit all the time. Cook sells drug to a girl, that kills herself moments later. Skins made me scared of drugs more than it made me wanna do it. Everyone is different I guess
A HBO-ran American remake of Skins could have actually done pretty well I think. From other shows they’ve done they seem for the most part to know what they’re doing with all types of audiences. They also have the balls to keep a lot of the raunchiness and raw-teenage realism that made the original Skins so special to people of the same age as the characters.
Its not as simple to say UK Skins are lower class. when I stayed in houses that look like that it was more middle class, and I think they characters are meant to float between poor to middle classish (differs between characters). UK has more social mobility then America as well so that's a factor. There's a poorer council house part of Bristol that's more properly imporverished.
gotta address these things, probably :
1. there are seven seasons of skins but i say there's six here because i keep forgetting that the fire/pure/airbender season exists, my bad
2. at one point in the video, i say chris' mom leaves him a thousand /dollars/ but, in my defense, it was a little slip up because the next time i refer to the same scene, i do say 'pounds.' don't take me to the guillotine just yet.
3. when i say the office u.s. and shameless u.s. improved upon elements of the original versions, what i mean is that those remakes ADDED to their takes on the shows instead of just being flat remakes with no -- how do you say -- *flavor*. anyway just so it's clear i do like both uk and u.s. versions of those shows . i felt i had to make that clear since i noticed a few people's feelings were hurt because they thought i hated the u.k versions. my bad
um...so yeah
Yhara zayd looool "airbender"
You forgot it was the start for Daniel Kaluuya as well. Of course he wasn'tthe main character though. I forgot his character's name, but he was in Season 1 or 2....? Then went on to do other stuff, most recently Black Mirror ep. 2 and Get Out
seventhseance i could never forget posh boy kenneth oml💚i had a whole section just on daniel & dev , how their characters in skins were portrayed and how they went on to do the best stuff but i had to shave down the run time :(
IM DEAD BECAUSE OF AIRBENDER
Anyone know what the music in the video is?
Skins was so raw and real. That’s why it was so successful imo
Henry Harrison well teenagers don’t normally get murdered by a doctor and get avenged by their best friend who had escaped jail and then goes on the run
Part of the reason is because they weren't afraid to say that sex, drugs and alcohol can actually be fun. Shows like 13 reasons why present them as things that only unhappy teenagers partake in which isn't the case at all. Of course they can lead to very serious issues but they don't always, and by saying this, they aren't glorifying them, they're just improving the programme's realism.
Skins is way ahead of it's time
Yes, i was around age 25 when I first watched it on BBC America and I thought back to some of the teen shows I watched as a pre-teen/early teens (I didn't have the WB until I was 18) and Skins seemed to be less moralistic and not as black and white in their thinking. But the more I watch of current tv shows in this new decade, I"ve noticed there's more of a grey area in morality than in the 1990s. Or at the very least some American shows I watch show the PC morality of today. For example, you can't compare the black-ish/grown-ish/mixed-ish franchise to Saved By the Bell from the early 90s :D
Honestly I couldn’t relate to either versions of Skins. Always felt that like my teenage experience (and others) was much more mundane and routine than the shows out in.
Chris had the most gut wrenching story over the first two seasons of the UK version.
Chris was a phenomenal character.
i was devastated by the end,remember sitting in silence for ages after the episode ended
He was my overall favourite. I sobbed when he died :-(
its sucks the most when you realise that his life was just about to get good
he used to be the funny weirdo kid and now he was a man with a job and a girlfriend
he absolutely went through so much development so seeing his end was the worst thing ever
Agreed
Skins is incomplete without all the dry British humour.
Dan Kale ikr
Nice pfp
i personally didn’t find it funny at all as an american but loved it as a drama show
and the british curse words
Siri Stroup like: twat, wanker and bollocks ?
You can’t just remove Maxxie and expect your show to be good
I think maxxie never had an episode to himself. In season one he was paired with anwar and then tony in season 2. Not to mention he didn’t get a lot of screen time and was never really a part of the main plots only subplots
So much this. I adored maxxie. I just wanted to hold him and tell him its OK most of the time.
Alexander Luna even with little air time he still made an impact on the show
maxxie was so bland
your mum ...no❤️
uk: tony's nudity bedsheets
usa: spider's ?
I'm-
watashi wa
If it were birds and bees it would’ve been better and still cute. The spiders were just nonsensical. It would make sense for uk Tony who has everyone trapped in his web. And the nudity would’ve made sense for us Tony who only cares about sex lol
Usa: fboi character vs Tony psychopathic character
Americans can’t handle nudity on cable TV. 🤷🏼♀️ We will explode and parents will protest.
@@Allisonlikescats 🧑🦲
uk skins did so well because it’s the most authentic show that literally had normal 16-19 year olds acting and showing stuff that happens all the time in this country. add the dry british humour on top of that and there’s no way it could be remade successfully
Maisie Jones yeah I hate how a lot of American tv shows and movies about teens have actors who are over 20. It’s ridiculous and unrealistic.
I'm sure they were in their early 20s at the time cus of it's sexual nature but they still passed as any average British teen which is what made it feel authentic
wait I was thinking abt the main cast but yeah I think most of the other teens in the show were of the age range that you said
facts
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 The main cast were nearly all underage in all 6 series.
I think Freddie's sister was 19 when the series was shot, but she's his older sister anyway.
Effy was 14 in season 1, 16-17 in season 3-4.
etc.
bro idk
i don't think you can make a US version of a show that portrays such stereotypical british teen life and get it to succeed in the same way. it just hits different
Kat Fml this!!! yes yes yes and truly i think the same applies for the days like these (the british version of that 70s show). both skins and t7s are very obviously shows about the english teen experience and american teen experience respectively. to remake either without adjusting to the cultural differences just makes it...not work
@@Yharazayd yessss! there are certain shows that rely on the cultural aspects to work, like Shameless, for example. Both versions work because they're self aware - they know that certain scenes, lines and behaviours just won't work when broadcasted to their target demographic (UK vs USA)
the only example that tried this and failed to the point where i wanted to genuinely CRY was the inbetweeners. holy SHIT that made me want to tear out my eyeballs and throw them in a river. i really did lose all faith in everything and anything after that
Yup! All the Skam remakes change the show so they work in their respective countries. You could debate how effective each version is, but still!
Yeah I moved around a lot as a kid an lived in several European countries as a kid/teen and lots of the experiences where quite similar but living in the US for a year being a teenager there is so different from anything I had experienced before.
Like the inbetweeners
And whoever said Cassie romanticized mental illness clearly didn't see Effys episodes
Exactly. All the tumblr girls make black and white gifs of her.
Laura Hall I agree. Effy glorified it and Cassie is a prime example if mental health and how ANY disorder is crippling to a human being. I feel Effy was manipulative in that concept, but I could be wrong.
Yeah cause effy going bat shit crazy was SO glorified
Tori Bloom I could be wrong. I personally thought it was because of all the drugs she was doing but I'm far from an expert.
Everyone I knew wanted to be Effy in high school. Not many people wanted to be like Cassie, except for wanting her ED. I think it's largely because of how beautiful Kaya is, and how the whole "mysterious" persona was very "in" in high school.
Dude they got rid of Maxxie for a "Lesbian" character that spent the whole season with a guy, looks to me that they didn't want to include homosexuality.
yeah america is like that
She did not spend the whole season with a guy what are you on about??
@@Mojix19 she spent it mostly with a guy, yes she did.
i’m so mad about that especially because they could’ve just established her as bisexual (which i’m p sure is statistically a more common sexuality anyways?) and it would’ve been totally fine!! but tv hates making bi characters ugh it sucks
They didn't got rid of anyone, it was generational...
I have one thing to say. Freddie deserved better. At least they gave Chris a funeral
Freddie literally one of the most boring characters in all 3 generations. He is second only to Nick and Matty. I never understood why Effy loved him. He is so bland, jesus.
@@MrLarva-sn7tz did you not enjoy Nicks episodes? i thought they were some of the best of the whole show to be honest
freddie's death was just bad writing bro
Wait what he died what I'm on season 5 btw
@@marleyrose1701 oh girl, just wait for it
so basically they replaced maxxie's lovely character with the wet dream of a creepy fifty year old man.
She deserved so much better 😔
« We have a cool and lovable gay character who’s cool for LGBT’s visibility, let’s turn him into a lebian not really lesbien girl who’s straight guys dream ». Yes, perfect.
maxxie was probably the first gay character i saw on tv that was an actual good character, and now we have tea, who is nothing like him
And that’s on fetishising lesbians!
@@schiavonaspada then you should’ve seen Willow who was an actual lesbian character on Buffy in the early 2000s.
How could you not include Maxie??? Do they not remember how insane the plot line with Sketch was???
Allie True but I think I it had sum to do with that show where they do the play/musical with sketch. I don’t think recreating that scene would have been acceptable in America 😛🤷🏽♂️
Sketch fucking gave me nightmares.
I always wondering if the decision to make Maxie into Tea had anything to do with homophobia. Yes they're both queer characters, but in general people seem to be more accepting of lesbians than gays. Also, it's much easier for people to see Tea experimenting with a guy than to see Tony experimenting with a guy.
Дании Badu lolll I was literally thinking about that scene today and was like dang this is kinda messed up but too funny 😭
@@TheRealityofFake it's less that lesbians are more accepted it's more that they're more sexualised which is definitely very much where they went with Tea
“I didn’t eat for three days so I could be lovely”
I feel like crying everytime I hear her say that🤧
*Cant relate* 🙄
it felt manipulative
@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 Cassie was very manipulative. She used her illness to get what she wanted, she even says so herself in an episode. It's just not as obvious as Tonys manipulation for example because she puts on the sweet and innocent facade.
I don’t know if it’s exactly on purpose that she’s manipulating. As someone who has experienced a similar mental illness to Cassie I see her behavior as a side effect of that. She’s not thinking clearly because the things aren’t connecting in her mind like they would normally. She’s running on empty. I’ve been in that spot and it’s a haze. it is manipulating that comment but I don’t think it’s purposeful
Tessie Gesch Couldnt have said it better myself.
the whole thing about effy is that she’s dark, which is exaggerated by her makeup and brunette hair, and she has a mysterious and quiet personality. her voice in the american version is too bubbly and high pitched. i don’t get why americans had to attempt to remake it.
@@caseydunbar2739 in gossip girl it worked bc it's more of the high society socialite scene, not lower middle class youth in Bristol tbh
Lol, you didn't even watch it. Eura is not like how you describe.
late to this but the us version of skins was written and created by the same people who created and wrote the uk version. the us version is trash in my opinion but you can’t discount the fact that the original creators also made this version and casted it as well. I guess they were going for something different but it just didn’t resonate with people. with new viewers and skins uk fans alike.
They just wanted money lol.
Tea is just skins u.s.' manic pixie dream girl and that's on her poster of audrey hepburn and 500 days of summer
😂
To be fair, I think the Audrey one was a nod to Emily's similar poster.
Tea was never a manic pixie dream girl or acted like one. You are talking about Cassie.
Skins was too hot for American to Handle. N’ough said.
@@Yharazayd But shameless is on HBO, Skins was on MTV
@@tealady22 Shameless is on showtime not HBO LOL but i get what u mean lol.
Tea Lady Nope just for the channel it was on. America has plenty of TV shows of this nature, just not on MTV. Skins US was trash but people love shitting on American TV in general, but no with this it was just a bad channel choice.... well for starters.
@@Yharazayd shameless UK is miles better i highly recommend if you're only familiar with US one
We need Skins Ireland and I would watch that.
Dev Petel is probably the biggest success story of skins just a shame no one knows where he came from
No, Nicholas Hoult!
The girl who played Katie Fitch is in a ton of American teen dramas now. Can’t believe I forgot her name
@@joshdove It's actually Emily's character - Kathryn.
Also Daniel kalyuula
Om Patel it’s not Selena Gomez
I can’t be the only person who didn’t even know there was an American remake????
lucky you😂 i wish i didn’t know about it
Don’t worry, you didn’t miss much.
It was back in 2011
Abbie Xxx I found out about Skins during my high schools when I was interested in Teresa’s actress from Maze Runner. I was interested in her & started watching Skins bc of her
Sarah Lynne okay. Still didn’t know about it🤣
Maybe it was a blessing that US Skins didn't get a Maxxie. Imagine the Kurt Hummel GBF monstrosity he would've been.
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Omg don't come for Kurt I love him sm😭 he did have his own storylines i dont think its fair to say he was just the gbf because he and rachel werent even close until much later
yeah instead they decided to fetishize lesbians. mmm what a great representation
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Of course they would turn their gay character into a lesbian that "gets turned straight" by a man.
I hate it here.
Yeah, if You hated it now imagine how actual lesbians felt about that. 😑 At least they should have not mislead the audience to get cookies for being so prrrrogrrrresive 🙄
it absolutely blows my mind that we keep seeing that trope when BI WOMEN EXIST!!!
that's- that's frankie lmao
@@vaaleenn and frankie was all round an awful character lmaoo
@@chickenfoot2423 litt loll
Tbh. MTV did not deserve skins. HBO or showtime should’ve gotten it or Netflix. It would’ve been less of a problem.
this 100 times. i this mtv was way too uptight for a show like skins. if only, if only
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US Didnt deseve skins
Diamond Entertainment exactly
@Nat Roberts YES finally someone agrees
It was very smart for them to change Cassie/Cady’s character. It’d be unfair to expect anyone to recreate Hannah Murray’s portrayal.
Cadie was much more realistic and relatable to me, as Cadie was mixed race and abused prescription drugs, as I did.
I now see Cassie with different eyes. She was a "manic pixie dream girl" who could act selfish and hurtful. In some ways I relate, but she was unnecessarily cruel at times.
I have mental illnesses and struggle with food, too, but I try not to hurt others even if unintentionally.
@@t.castro4493 Cassie I feel was someone who acted selfish and hurtful for sure, for example leaving after Chris' death instead of staying and coping, but that was caused by how blatantly her family and friends ignored her and her clear cries for help. I think she was portrayed in a way where she was representing having mental illnesses and struggling with food, ect but having no one give a single fuck when they all knew what was happening. You see how little they cared about her in season 1 when Michelle and tony are talking about her with Sid. She represented a way that people respond to having mental illnesses and struggling but not having those closest to them try to help them. She was selfish and came off as hurtful and unnecessarily cruel at times from the way she was trying to be the one that cared about her, her subconscious trying to protect her and care about her. This subconscious need to protect herself and care about herself shown through how in her episode she keeps getting signs to eat. Cassie and Cadie were meant to portray the same character in a way but also not, they were aimed at different audiences, they both had different reactions to how those around them were. Cassie like Cadie abused prescription drugs and also other drugs. No one tries to hurt others intentionally or even unintentionally when struggling with mental illness but mental illnesses themselves can cause people to start only thinking about themselves. Her portrayal of her struggle did reflect what many with mental illnesses do as well as the automatic subconscious or fight or flight response that out bodies have. Cassies flight or flight response being to run away, which came off as selfish and hurtful. They both portray the differences in people who are struggling the same way but reacting to it differently. The other thing to remember is that the other characters in the show with Cassie knew all about her issues, they were all friends and a group and knew each other for a long time clearly however they never cared enough to show cassie they cared about her, she was so happy when she thought sid was giving her signs to eat. She was unnecessarily cruel at times but she was like that because she felt let down by the others.
@@reechaaryal8094 Interesting analysis. I do understand what you say, and I relate to "running away" because I think that I don't deserve to have friends, and for the past 3 years I'm cutting off contact with others.
I suppose that what you say can hold true, as I've hurt people without meaning to, and one of those times I wanted the best for me and for my friend (we were going through a rough patch and to this day we aren't speaking, but I tried to make amends).
And yes, Cassie did also abuse drugs, but Cadie seemed to depend on them more.
My complaint about Cassie acting selfish isn't only aimed at her character, because pretty much everyone in the series is like that, and it's one of my frustrations with the show nowadays. When I first watched Skins back in 2010, I was only 13, and thought that it was perfect, but everything has pros and cons.
As I said before here on UA-cam, the US version makes more sense to me these days, because the characters are kinder to each other and act like genuine friends, and the situations seem more grounded in reality, in contrast to some things that happened in Skins UK. Skins US features a bit less hedonism too. I'm one of those people who feels lonelier after watching the show.
@@t.castro4493 Yeah of course they are all rude to eachother. I've realised they are all really self centered in the UK version but have realised that makes them even more realisitic as teenagers. Theyre all so absorbed in themselves that they cant realise that they have friends around them who need them, I do however feel like the Uk version does portray them as real friends, they are theyr'e for eachother through rough times just are all also going through their own shit and having to grow up at the same time. As an Australian I feel the UK version does portray how we are in friendships and how we talk amongst ourselves, it seems rude but is all loving. Everything has its pros and cons, I havent been able to find the US version but I do feel the UK version is realistic for what age they are at. Also you do deserve friends dont let yourself believe that you dont.
@@reechaaryal8094 Hmm, IMO, there was a bigger sense of unity in Series 5 (things went down the gutter in Series 6).
Although, some fans have said the opposite; that the third generation characters weren't really close. I identified a lot with them in S5, but there was a change in writing staff and they modified too much.
In Gen 1, the biggest problem was Tony as he was a master manipulator and a huge narcissist who caused problems.
I suppose a lot of teens are self-centered, heh.
In Misfits, the characters also acted like jerks but they cared about each other.
As for the US version, you can find it online. I can't mention anything here or YT will censor the comment, but try searching around for "Skins US S01E01". I'd advise watching it with an open mind without comparing with the original... Skins US should have been a separate series with another name. That would have resulted in less criticism.
There's an Aussie teen drama that is very much like Skins, it was called SLiDE and unfortunately only had one season. It seems extremely rare and was forgotten by most. I have yet to watch it, but it seems good. Here in Brazil, they aired Aussie shows that were usually meant for kids or younger teens. I watched Mortified.
Thanks for the advice, I'll try to come out of this self-imposed isolation, but I become nervous.
the whole point of skins is that it’s so realistically british though, why do americans have to take everything??
Money.
American executives are to blame, money , not the people, the people don't ask for watered down bullshit
Yea I’m sorry they did that too y’all. Sadly I’m American and I prefer the British Skins. Y’all are simply better
I’m just waiting for America to make their own Schitt’s Creek
Money America and Americans love money. Copying an already successful show is easy and simple and practically already has an audience. Honestly it’s pretty smart.
Tbh Effy is supposed to be ”mysterious” and you can’t be mysterious with an american accent😂
Pssht, who told you that lie? Considering Brits had to change their voice, bc they didn't want to sound like Americans, I'd say you aren't as mysterious as you believe yourself to be.
QR One lmao what wtf was that first statement
QR One we didn’t change our voices , your decadents were mostly midlanders who sounded American back then but because they started talking more like northerners so our voices changed naturally not just because we don’t want to sound like you smh
@@1rockcrawford ...you do realise you kinda just contradicted your "point" there, right? when people want to be mysterious (hide shit about themselves and be aloof) they change their mannerisms eg. their *voice* , fashion sense and reactions to things. brits changing their voices would technically mean they're being mysterious.
@@1rockcrawford no we didn't who told you THAT lie? We didn't change anything
This wasnt the main focus of the video, but it did catch my attention because I never knew about it before, But I disagree about Cassie being a character that romanticises mental health. I personally saw her whimsicalness and fairylike beahviour as her being insane and not coping. Almost everyone around her in the show acknowledged that something was wrong with her and alot of times she was a character of messed up morals (especially in the second season). I dont know, maybe its because when I think romanticising mental health I think more about the shit show that is 13 reasons why.
@@Yharazayd Oh i know it wasnt your personal view. (I loved your video by the way.) I just never knew that some people had this view about her character or that the argument exsisted is all.
if any of the characters romanticized mental illness i would say it was effy
gigi for real amen
@@gigigrass6050 Genuinely, I dont understand the hype over Effy.
Samina Nishat personally i absolutely love her bc i identify so strongly with her bc i have a very distant attachment style and i hate getting close to others
Can you pls do one about degrassi? How the show went from being incredible to kinda shit
Josh Dove i second this
The story got repeative... Every year somebody was gay. 😒 every year somebody had a pregnancy scare. From watching skins...i noticed no one causally used drugs and if they did it would turn into a after school special. 😒
I loved season 10 so much though-
@@peters10456170 every year someone was gay?? God forbid gay ppl get represented right?
Omg yes! The first 6 seasons of degrassi were very strong n well written. It changed a bit of direction in season 8. But yeah they kinda lost the buildup or growth of some of the characters. There's still many topics they never fully addressed.
i think that Skins (uk) doesn’t need any kind of reboot or remake. it was unique, and a show about teenagers is very different in 2007-2010 than now. now there’s Euphoria, i think it has the guts to be the Skins of this new generation
Euphoria starts strong but falls flat plot and character wise in the end.
@@maverickbull1909 How?
This
you got the name effy stonem
@@maverickbull1909 skins is more "iconic" and it was the og. but that's pretty much it. euphoria is more cohesive and engaging. they don't ruin characters left and right like skins did.
Stan looks like he would be the child of Cassie and Sid
Ohhhh damn lmao
yessss
I think Tony was pretty middle-class... in the Gen 1 episode Effy appeared in, when she first met Panda, the two of them are both attending the same private school as Abigail. Plus, Tony’s accent is pretty middle-class.
Yeah I was gonna say...maybe it's less clear as an American viewer but those kids weren't all working class. I'd say Tony, Effy & Michelle (in addition to Jal, which she mentions) are all middle class. The only ones that jump out to me as being definitely working class are Sid, Chris and Maxxie. Not too sure about Cassie and Anwar.
@@caras1366 Cassie looked a bit rich at first. I remember her parents' house being very nice
@@caras1366 isn't Jal's dad a loaded music producer?
@@babymilksnatcher Yeah, Jal lived in a really large house, maybe even a mansion
@@caras1366 Cassie’s parents were middle class trying to live and be penniless “artist hippies”. They live in a nice house and have middle class accents but are trying to live this weird “artist boho commune” thing which makes them neglectful, so that shows when they have sex in front of their kids, her mum’s fully painted in the nude by her dad (with wide open legs lol) and the house is a mess because they thought it was “free” and “bohemian” but was actually very neglectful and bordering on child abuse.
In Skins Pure, after Cassie’s dad has a breakdown and Cassie has to end up looking after her little brother, you can tell her dad wasn’t really like that at all, and was actually a weak man, who actually didn’t know how to care for his kids, so the fake boho lifestyle was an avoidance thing and coping mechanism, I think.
Skins Pure actually builds on Cassie’s dad’s character really well and adds a lot of depth.
I don’t think we actually ever see Anwar’s parents, come to think of it?
THEY GOT RID OF MAXXIE? how did they think that was gonna go well he’s everyone’s babey
they could have just got another sad dancer kid who’s gayness was intended for the gay audience to replace maxxie, and yeah, he was somewhat of a stereotype, but not nearly as much as tea was, and tea’s lesbianism was not intended for the gays, she was in there for the straights
I wanted guy 2 guy action
Maxxie was never developed fully and was stereotypical. I am a gay FTM and Franky in Series 5 was more relatable to me.
Tea doesn't end up with Tony, she was deeply confused at the time and is even called out for going out with him.
It's also possible for gay people to date others of the opposite sex for a while. This happens a lot. I've been attracted to girls before, even though I prefer males.
Apparently there was a lot of controversy around the remake due to the ages. There are differences to note here in the UK that might change the feel of the overall show. Here in the UK school technically ends at 16, for a while you had the choice at 16 to go straight into work, start an apprenticeship or you can continue your studies (which is currently what most people do). If you continue your studies you spend two years at a place we call college or sixth form. Officially they are known as Sixth Form Colleges and there you study 4-6 subjects of your choice which are supposed to narrow your decision on what to study at a University College, where you study for an honours degree. Skins was set at one of these colleges, so most of the characters are between the ages of 16-18, but as far as they are concerned they are no longer at school, they have more freedom than they would at a school, they would refer to their teachers by their first names rather than calling them 'sir' or 'miss' like you would at school. Therefore sixth form college is effectively not unlike college in North America in that young people feel they can let their hair down and enjoy life more. Also, and I think this is worth mentioning given the nature of Skins, whilst alchohol is illegal in the UK until the age of 18, the age of consent is officially 16. So when the characters in Skins are having sex, many are doing so for the first time, and it's not considered 'wrong' because as far as they are concerned they have reached the age of consent. This has an effect on the sense of 'freedom' the characters have that those in the North American version wouldn't. In the NA version they are still at school, they still have the same social circles, the same restrictions (except that they can drive) they can't reinvent themselves the way we can in the UK at a Sixth Form college, it's a different experience overall.
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I had no idea that was a thing
Tories made it compulsory to stay in school till 18, but this is how it used to be
@@DratItsMatt yes it wasn't when I was 16. Although the colleges are still a thing and not all of them are attached to a secondary school.
@@DratItsMatt Yeah, they changed it a year or two after I left I think.
I think the problem with remakes is that British shows tend to have very specific British humour . Some of which is even regional. So it is very hard to remake unless you have trying to replace it with American humour. For example to accent, some posh kids actually speak like that in UK, which I suspect is contrary to popular US belief.
Yur frands
Skins US had a valley girl in the place of Abigail, forgot her name now. Both are equally annoying. I love both editions of the series.
Tea is there for nothing else but fetishisation and mens pleasure. A unique type of covert homophobia. Maxxie was removed because of overt homophobia.
Personally, I don't like the Katie and Stan thing because it's... weird. They're very contrasting, but not in the way Sid and Cassie are. It feels like they were too afraid to make a character as dainty yet sick as Cassie.
I think they thought they were doing a good Maxxie counterpart with Tea. They're both very attractive, and people of different genders wanted to be with them. But they actually showed *why* Maxxie was appealing - yeah he's handsome and a flirt, but he's also caring and
loyal and a very good friend. Tea, well the show seemed to be saying 'she's a hottie lesbian who is also down with sleeping with men, what else ya need? Certainly not a respectably-written character!'
Tea was deeply confused and bored at the time. It's also possible for gays to go out with someone of the opposite gender. I'm a gay FTM and I've kissed girls.
She was much more nuanced and likeable. Maxxie was never fully developed and was a stereotype (he dressed camp once in a while and liked musicals and dance).
Rewatching both shows 10+ years later, I find Skins US more realistic. Certain characters are better and there's a bigger sense of friendship.
I don’t think Effy necessarily romanticized mental health (bc everyone keeps saying that) I think it’s the way the audience perceives it. Effy’s character wasn’t seen as “romanticizing mental health” until it became an aesthetic on Pinterest, Tumblr, and etc. Her character is a natural party girl but I think her partying is a way her character copes with her issues.
I agree. I don’t think romanticising mental health was what they meant to do at all. I just think that the fact that Effy is such an interesting character that everyone loves made them get the wrong idea about the problems that she had and see it as part of her mysterious personality
They did romanticize it on occasion. Like, wtf was up with that storyline with a grown ass shrink that wants to sleep with her (ew) and kills Freddy (bleh, shock value).
They did romanticise it a bit. This girl who LITERALLY did not speak was wanted or respected by everyone in the early seasons. Remember the "Everybody loves me" line she says to Sid, that's pretty tongue in cheek imo. All the times characters rushed in to try and save her (usually from herself lol). I think it could have definitely been toned down.
21:54 can't believe you left out what happened immediately after this...the greatest thing in skins history.........the cast including just hit by a bus tony breaking out into cat stevens' "wild world"
lol it’s really the greatest moment in television history
@@Yharazayd really wanted them to have one random musical number a series but they never did it again lmao
sophie ! & this is why season 1 + generation 1 will forever be iconic as hell. when tony started singing while lying unconscious in the street>>>>
@@Yharazayd iconic!!! skins us didn't recreate it because they knew they could never pull it off
Lmao, I actually forgot that that happened! 😭 It was so unexpected but great.
the only good thing about this show was people discovering the original
Zoe Yarnell I discovered the original a few years after I saw this monstrosity and it changed my life
This is so true. I only learned about Skins UK because of the horrid Skins US.
I watched the original first in 2010 and now I prefer the remake, because the characters are better to each other and situations less exaggerated.
The soundtrack also reminds me of my adolescence back then. I listened to some of the artists that appeared (although, same with the UK).
There's something kind of grimy about being a teenager in the uk. Can't be replicated.
Yeah the depressing grey sky
the gray colour filter on every old 2000s british tv show is a great example of how grimey it feels here
But it was so fucking fun
The line from British skins "wow... I didn't eat for 3 days so I could feel lovely" always hurts me everytime I hear it.
I never saw Skins US so hearing about how Tea’s character as a lesbian was handled makes me so upset and angry,,. Like the lesbophobia really jumped out
Some homosexual people go out with the opposite sex. I'm a gay trans guy who has kissed women. "Gold star" is a bad concept.
Tea never had a positive experience with Tony, everybody called her out on it, and she stays with Betty in the end.
Skins is already in English, so why would Americans want an American version? It's just hilarious to me how they want to make everything american
Odalys Miroslava Maldonado Valdes .....
It's like they think every country is worst then them in making movies ,sins
different cultures, different slang, different laws, and just in general the people in the US can’t really relate to any of it because it’s not type of thing that’s shown here and on tv until more recently
Believe it or not, people around the world can appreciate different cultures, without the need of watching the same thing but as a national remake that's how we learn other languages, it's okay to be out of your comfort zone and watch the original show or movie, old boy is just an example shown on the video, is a master piece and what they did changing it to an American version is just horrible, you don't have to americanize everything just because it's not your culture, Parasite is amazing and I hope they don't dare to make an American version too, dark, in the mood for love, el laberinto del fauno, fleabag, are just a few that come to mind that are not American and are amazing, no need to change it just because it doesn't show your own culture
Ask the creators of Skins UK. They have the same producers.
A lot of the reason why Skins UK was better than US skins is because it’s UK culture and a lot of us can relate to it :)
wivuyao I mean it’s true but ok..
Lol, no, I’m Mexican I can’t relate, but I love it tho
I'm American and related to it just fine. Cassie is the most universally accurate portrayed of an eating disorder I've ever seen
Honestly Americans are like aliens to anyone outside of the country. Americans talk about Euphoria like “this is the realest teen show ever” while everyone is like “uhhhh cool show but no where near reality”.
I’m Australian and I loved it lol
I think cassie potrayed eating disorders and depression very well. It's one of the most realistic potrayals I've seen. As someone who suffers with an eating disorder and depression I can say that sometimes you do go a little bit lulu with the lack of nutrience and depression on top (trying to hide it by acting happy).
As someone who was actually a British teenager at the time this was airing, saying it never glamorized drugs/partying is just... wrong lol literally everyone I knew wanted their life to be like Skins
I feel like a loser when watching Skins now because my adolescence was awful and depressing. I did drugs and had sex after I turned of age but I didn't have fun.
Skins definitely glamourised hedonism and other topics.
Jack O'Connell has also found a ton of success since Skins.
Jermbuf14 and Daniel Kaluuya!
I love him!!!
I was surprised when I started the show a few weeks ago how many stars were in it lol
Cook is one of the best TV characters of all time and anyone can fight me on that
Laura Hall THEE GREATEST tv characters of all time!!!!
I can't believe I was entertained by a nearly 42 minute video about shows I never watched. Nice job!
You should totally watch the Skins UK show on Netflix it is amazing.
Part of what made Skins UK so unique was that most of the crew were also under 25. It was created and consulted by people who were close to the age of the protagonists, and it was fearless. It was a major thing to basically scrap the whole cast and start over. It's still one of my favourite shows and more than holds up against other teens series that have come after. IMO they should have just aired the UK version in the US. Whatever makes the UK version so unique and special got lost in translation.
That said, the final generation at widely agreed as pretty crap in comparison to the Stonem seasons.
i went years without watching the final generation & i recently finished it and...oh boy
Gen3 Series 6 was one of the best written Seasons of it all. Tbh! Series 4 from Gen 2 was garbage. Gen3 had More likeable charas than Gen2 tbh. Gen2 had waaaay too many dead weight
The UK version did air in the US (on BBC America)
@@GLBizzie I really enjoyed the S5 (first of Gen 3) although it is very different tonally to the others and I'd say feels less gritty and less quintessentially British. Personally really hated S6 but personal taste! Just replying bc I don't see many others who like the G3 characters. I do feel now that time has passed that S1 holds up the most though.
@@caras1366 i recently made myself watch gen 3 and i also loved s5! s6 was a nightmare tho, losing grace and frankie being The Actual Worst 😭😭 imo liv and mini had the best development but the love triangle with the brothers felt like such deadweight. gen 1 definitely still holds up as my favourite out of lot now that i’ve seen the whole series lmao
The trailer for Maxxie's episode on season 1 changed my life, yes... just the trailer. It was the first time I saw a gay character being pround of who he was. I did not know the name of the show, I saw the trailer on christmas eve and I kept watching the same channel so I could watch it again
I can't believe it's been 14 years since S1 came out and it had not ONCE dawned on me that 'Mad Twatter' was a play on 'Mad Hatter'. *head in hands emoji*
The first 4 seasons of the original skins was fantastic
Rei Joon Y I liked five and six but omg Frankie was fucked up from the get go
@@potnoodles8097 The best thing about 5 and 6 were Mini and Alo and Rich and Grace. I'm still upset when I think about what happened to Grace.
Series 6 was amazing! Grace Death and Alo/Mini and Rich developement.. Even Nick had some Character developement. I think Gen 3 was the realest of them all. Gen2 had an epic start But ended piss poor while Gen3 started weak But ended on a high and the Finale Episode even made up for it
Maybe I should rewatch it, I just remember the first seasons to be more relatable for me....hearing you guys talk about it makes me wanna rewatch it 😆
Should I watch seasons 5 and 6? I've watched 1-4 multiple times and love it, but i can never get past season 5s first episode before i switch it off.
*shows scene with Effy & Cook*
me: NO THAT NEVER HAPPENED! THAT NEVER HAPPENED! THAT'S NOT REAL!
Euphoria's success proves that Skins should've been brought to a pay channel, first of all. But that isn't the only reason for Skins failing. I really believe by the time Elsley brought Skins to the US he was completely out of touch with not just youth in general but especially American youth. He and the people he was working worth could not translate the show for American audiences. Also, the talent on Skins UK far exceeded the actors they found for US. Anyway, doesn't matter, because Euphoria is the remake American audiences deserve. It has the talent, money, direction, editing, and production American audiences needed. Because of the budget Skins UK had it does give a more raw aesthetic imo but I'm not sure that would work here, not right now anyway.
stephanie This is the analysis I was looking for. Thanks.
Euphoria was made to cater pedophiles, sorry not sorry
Mer Feraine i think the same
Mer Feraine how so? I wanna know cuz I only saw the first episode of that cuz it's on UA-cam for free
Euphoria still over sexualizes teenagers, still plays into common teen tropes and cliches. It's not that much different than most teen shows imo
I completely agree with you that Jal deserved better. She was my favorite character in the first gen and the one I related to the most. Larissa was so underrated on that show.
Yeah 😫😤💕
Daniel Kaluuya is a huge member of the launched by skins career club
I remember watching just the one episode and never bothered with it again. American Tony was just an unlikable douche, Nicholas Hoult's Tony was also an asshole but somehow crazy charming and likable.
That's the best bit about Nicholas' Tony. One minute you wanted to hit him next minute you wanted to kiss him. The push and pull that his character made you feel was one of the best things about the show imo
american culture in a nutshell
Nicholas Hoult's Tony was supposed to be that edgy charming badboy stereotype who fucks you and then fucks you up. typical character cliché. Same goes for Effy, the beautiful bad girl tumblr grunge chick whose entire personality revolves around "sex, drugs, alcohol, trouble" and who makes depression look cool 🙄
such edgy much cringe
@@coopermakescasksandbarrelsP but it worked, many teens in the 2000’s wanted to be those tumblr grunge kids so they could relate to them
Give it another try, watch past the pilot. I prefer the characterisation in Skins US nowadays, because a lot of the characters in the original were exaggerated and unlikeable. In Skins US, they are nicer and they all hang out with each other, which gives off a feeling of unity.
This is really well written critique pls make more video essays
thank you! got any topic suggestions?
@@Yharazayd It would be great if you broke down Shameless! That show was & still is so great to me. I'm subbing right now!!!!
as somebody who lives near Bristol, skins does not belong anywhere else.
I never knew there was an American remake, but seeing this, that girl cannot play Effy, she doesn’t portray effy the way she’s supposed to be. Effy is supposed to be mysterious and edgy and kind of empty in a way. The actress in the American remake almost seems like she’s trying too hard. I don’t think she’s fit for the role of effy at all.
Come on, Eura barely appeared and you didn't even watch the remake anyways. How are you supposed to judge?
I like Eura more, she's cute and actually does seem more mysterious (see her character trailer).
@@t.castro4493 nah she was boring
Talk about adaptation. Thailand’s series called “Hormones” is actually adaptation of Skins. It’s clearly got some inspiration but written in the new culture and concept that just make it refreshing and impactful.
Yes!! Hormones is so good
Finally someone who knows about Hormones. I have to watch it still, only found out after the fanbase moved on to other things.
Skins US was good too, most people who judge have never seen it.
Degrassi: Canadian
Skins UK: Uk lmao
Euphoria: american
when you pulled out that clip of Effy and Cook that really hit hard
A load of the actors in UK Skins were underage... the age of consent over here is 16, but Kaya Scodelario was 14 when she started playing Effy
But she didn't do any real sex scenes or anything sexual until she became of age around the time of generation 2. One of the first big scenes of s3e1 has Effy having wild sex Cook for instance to, I guess, showcase Kaya's new adulthood?
A load of actors = 1 actor
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Michelle's actorise felt uncomfortable with those scenes. She said about it on tik tok
@@Whackadoo1 I can't remember who said it but until a certain age you are actually really more imagining the scenes are real and not really acting. Our brain cannot difference between pain/shame/fear that is real and unreal. That's why you maybe can't sleep after a good horror game. You were scared and your brain does know it's just a game but your fear is still real. I think the actress mentioned being very uncomfortable in those scenes and it's actually sad that she started the role with 14. In the end she didn't seem to have taken any further harm from it but that doesn't mean other countless girl's or boys haven't.
The actors on Skins US were 15-19. It was one of the reasons the adaptation was cancelled.
April Pearson (Michelle) was deeply uncomfortable when doing the NSFW scenes and so was Laya Lewis (Liv).
When they wimped out and made Maxxie a lesbian cheerleader I knew this was doomed.
Tea is a nuanced person and she doesn't stay with Tony (she never needed to be a "gold star lesbian" anyway). Maxxie was a camp gay stereotype and was never developed properly.
Skins UK was just so raw and emotional, with actual teens playing teens. While I still love soapy shows like Glee and One Tree Hill, nothing really compares to Skins (with the exception of Euphoria).
Skins US is good too, and the soundtrack contributes to a certain atmosphere just like the original. The actors were also teens and that's one of the reasons it was cancelled.
As for other shows, there's that one called Skam but I didn't like it :/
I'm a fan of teen dramas in general and one of my favs is Degrassi, but it can be a bit cheesy for most folks.
I should watch Hormones: The Series. It's a Thai teen drama that was inspired by Skins.
Glee is the worst show ever nothing can beat it about Being a worst show
Watching this video made me realise how amazing skins UK was. Probably one of the best shows of its time
I feel like the us remake makes it too teen show-ish, less realistic and the pacing of the dialogue isn't as spaced out as it is in the UK version. the way they space it out and don't have backing music most of the time makes it seem more real. I guess the American accents make it seem faker to me cuz British is closer to Australian which is what I am
the accent thing is because a lot of American tv shows dont use realistic dialog. I loooove skins uk, i grew up bilingual german and (american) English.
Notably the show is set in Baltimore and they don't sound like people from Baltimore either.
the thing is most of the actors weren't american: they're canadian, and it was filmed in canada also. so there's this other layer here of a uk show being made by candians for an american audience. and even though a lot of the rest of the world seems to think that canada is just polite america, it's still a completely different country with a different culture.
@@tijanaself897 samee
Those spider bed sheets are horrendous
I used to work on skins for seasons 2 and 3 (UK). I was a PA and an occasional extra for a few of the scenes in the college and some of the house party scenes. Doing that and studying at Uni it was pretty damn daunting but at the same time Incredibly Exciting, even with long hours on set and burning the candle at both ends to keep up with my course work. I felt comforted that the program I worked on at the time was doing so well and was relatable to so many. I also got to talk with a few cast members occasionaly all lovely people and weirdly enough with out even knowing this prior to working on skins, Cook is related to one of my friends. He's also a nice guy but definately a wild one not all that different from his character Cook to be honest.
Well I've reminisced now, that was a nice trip down memory lane and boy do I feel old now haha. Thank you for making this, I really enjoyed watching it. I hope you enjoyed making it and please continue to make more videos of in depth analysis of shows you love, hate or wondered "what ever happened to"
You've clearly got a talent for this, that's definately a sub from me =]
p.s. I was dissapointed to hear that they were making a US version of skins, I thought maybe it would appeal to everyone of the same age in the US but it was never really adapted properly for their audience. No disrespect to the cast of the US version, just a bad attempt to cash in on an already succesful program.
Have you got any secrets to tell us about the shoq
there's a reason tony in the US version never acted again
Even though his Acting wasn‘t the problem tbh
He wasn't that bad.
"None of it was ever glorified"
LOL I gotta stop you there, Skins made drugs look coooooooooooooooooooollllllllllll and you know it lol
I don't really think so because when you strip down the show to cause and effect, misery always follows drugs/partying. Their lives are a trainwreck. I watched the show when Inwas sixteen and it really changed how I viewed party culture (the county I live in has the highest rates of teen alcoholism in Germany and the town I went to school in is the third biggest small town when it comes to drug sales). Before skins it was this sort of magical thing that only cool kids were allowed to participate in and after I saw it as the true misery it really is, which inspired me to start writing. I have a lot of friends who were really clpse to ruining their lives and without skins I would have dove in much deeper than I have.
slushpuppie19 I gotta agree with you there. I enjoyed skins on the whole and it did show some consequences for the partying. However characters literally would sink a bottle of vodka pop a handful of pills while smoking a joint and walk around like they were a bit tipsy. Watching as a teen the girls seemed hot and the guys cool I don’t give a fuck types. Unfortunately I can’t relate to any of the experiences depicted as I was a slightly goofy grammar school kid. Inbetweeners was me lol. Still skins was entertaining.
@@joew2450 that's literally how partying went in my area. I know people who can drink several shots, long drinks and beers and you won't notice that they're drunk at all. I guess it really depends on region etc. when it comes down to how you perceive the show.
@@joew2450 exactly! I never felt there were any direct consequences to their actions. In Fresh Meat someone OD'd and it had consequences, when Cassie took a 'shitload of pills' she woke up and they all had a good laugh lol
@@leaf1885 You're probably right the region you live does have an effect. I'm late 20s now and had my own ahem...experiences but still think the level of drugs and alcohol they would take in 5 minutes would be heroic even for a seasoned space cadet.
Skins was insanely relatable and real. It was raw too. The actors were actual real teenagers and didn’t look perfect and prim - they looked real. It ALSO didn’t glamorize all of the issues, illnesses and addictions in the show. Unlike many shows now days. Skins made me feel like I was seen. Unlike pretty little liars or even gossip girl.... idk
Skins US is more relatable to me nowadays and I started with the original in 2010.
Though Franky in Series 5 was me in fictional form. I am a gay trans man who likes androgyny, had no friends and suffered from bullying. Unfortunately, they changed her.
Skins does have a problem with glamourisation of hedonism. A lot of us viewers feel lonely when watching because it forces the idea that you should be as "cool" as the characters. It's like, if you're not partying at a rave at 16, then you're not really living.
Some kids tried to be like Cassie or Effy, which is a no-no.
The only thing i hated about Skins was that they always killed off one person from the friend group. Freddie’s and Graces deaths were two things i couldn’t recover from. Especially Grace because they didn’t need to do my boy Rich like that.
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absolutely nobody:
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*oH wOW*
*TOotallyyy*
JuSt LoVeLy
Can I just say, in Effy's episode, it is somehow so easily able to dive deeper into her character dispite the fact that you barely knew her character before this. That is because it was HER! EPISODE! It actually focused on her with the other characters being, basically, side characters. But even then, you could see the character growth from EVERYONE involved in that episode, especially her. In Eura's episode it wasn't focused on her in the slightest. And even the characters that the episode did focus on, Tony and Stan, didn't have any growth whatsoever.
This makes me wanna rewatch skins but I’m still not sure I’m emotionally ready for it even though it’s been four years. And I don’t think the American version could have even come anywhere CLOSE to capturing the emotional distress the deaths of Freddie and Grace caused had it continued, its for the best they didn’t get the chance to try
I have to say that if Netflix shoots a new Skins US right now it would be super successful.
@@Yharazayd have you seen Sex Education tho? Its the only Netflix Original that I would be able to compare at all to Skins
For real anything would be better that their generic Netflix originals
@@jaeblack4752 oh no i dont think they're alike at all
@@jaeblack4752 Don't compare that shit with skins :(
Jaeblack nah, sex education is a pretty good show, but doesn’t have the same reality that skins had.
I feel like euphoria is lowkey a skins U.S.
I feel like unlike Skins, somehow Euphoria has such a consistent depressing feeling to it. Like Skins, the show is dark, and talks about the real things - the good and the bad - and is also very realistic, which is appreciated, but where Skins adds humor and a lightheartedness to its storyline, Euphoria lacks it to a considerable degree. Maybe I’m full of shit, but Skins touched my heart where Euphoria couldn’t.
Lindsay Jo Euphoria has generated the same movement feeling that skins UK did. It’s also more shallow in its story lines
lmao euphoria is good and its uncensored bc its on HBO, plus the budget is huge and the acting and cinematography hold it together despite its flaws.
Zaza Urum agreed. Skins is so special, imo, cause of both the dark and light moments
@@zazaurum600 I honestly love euphoria, maybe it's not realistic at all, but I honestly loved it, loved zendaya's performance, loved how drug addiction was portraied in this show, loved overall atmosphere of the show as well. However it's very different from skins.
I love the whole Josh-Effy kidnap scene because of how well it wrapped up. It seems crazy at first, but then you realise he never really wanted Tony to do that to her, he just wanted to make Tony apologise and see him suffer as revenge, which makes sense since he’s off his meds. He’s not crazy enough to make Tony do that, just enough to conduct a plan to screw him up. He gives Effy pure grade pharmaceuticals since he doesn’t really want to hurt her, and he could’ve got them from work so it’s not too unusual. It all seems like it’s gonna be a case of a TV show making something stupid or unrealistic happen for the sake of it, but it turns out to be really well thought out and explained in a way that makes sense, which makes it all fit together.
To say Skins was "fairly successful" is Britain is a huge understatement. That show defined an entire generation in this country. I can't think of a piece of media that influenced me more as a young teen.
Skins us failed because parents didn’t want to see Americans kids do: drugs, sex, partying etc. when that’s the same way they (the parents) grew up. Skins uk is my all time favorite show in the multiverse. I wish skins us didn’t cancel.
Also skins uk had the best theme song ever in the world. Specially generation 1 and 2.
uuh I disagree, this show is for teenigers not for kids anyways so the adressed group wouldn't even rely on what their parents "allowed" them to watch. euphoria has also got all of these things and everyone loves it so..
Y B euphoria is just a homosexual bait show for the alphabet community. Its alright I guess.
@@lifeismeaningless5512 dude wtf
Actually it was seven seasons. Skins had a Season 7 focusing on Cassie, Cook and Effy
WR 96 i don’t know why i always forget pure, fire, etc exists
Yhara zayd my guess is we’re all trying to repress it lol
mother how come? Did you find it was written poorly or because it was just too dark? Cook’s final story was almost a bit over the top for me but at least Cassie got a happy ending.
We do not talk about that season
Sneha Roy oh we do coz Cooks episode were amazing besides the psycho thriller going on lmao But his final words at the end of it are Legendary and couldn’t be more true to growing up
Aye I live in Bristol and skins to this day can be considered an accurate representation to what happens here as a college student/ sixth former sometimes.. it’s too fucking realll.
Legit the place where Effy was drugged by josh is the same sports grounds I went for PE lmfaoo.
hahahaha woow
It's the same anywhere in the UK not just Bristol
It’s 2020 and Skins’ theme is still my ringtone
They seriously made a 17-18 year old call someone else a 'scaredy cat'....
girl i -
British people just be yelling "TWAT" down the street.
I love that you mention Shameless and The Office. Both shows actually found a way to change to fit American audiences. I actually liked a few of the actors in the remake, so I felt terrible when I hated this.
I love skins so much, but a lot of people are saying euphoria is like a reincarnation but I dont see the resemblance other than the fact that they both have experiments with sex and drugs.
Exactly why it's a shit version of skins uk lmao
Yeah people who compare them either never watched more than an episode of Skins UK or didn‘t got the whole thing around it lmao. I mean Cooks character or Tony Stonem Series 1/2 were so well written and Rich/Mini/Alo too from Series 5-6
not at y'all being snobs and trying to shit on euphoria. it's a good show, stop being whiny bc kids today like it more than skins.
also the resemblance is bigger than that, like each episode focusing on a different character with their own issues and having a few events here and there that end up connected. it was definitely influenced by skins imo.
@@toxoplasmagondi i wasnt tryna shit on euphoria i like it too i just didn’t think that they were that similar
They are both about teenagers with issues who are sad and trying to cope in same way. They are the same they are just gen z teens in america
I would love a remake or just a teen show set in the early 2000's I feel like that'd be very nostalgic
Bad Karma like a gossip girl but more relatable because everyone wouldn’t be unattainably rich
Sierra's Lisp a remake for gossip girl is apparently happening, I'm excited and scared even though I never really finished the original show
Luca Peyrefitte The OG Gossip Girl lost me during Season 4.. I did watched the rest to learn who GG actually really was. I wish I would’ve never known that by now lmao
I loved the British Skins. It reminded me more of my high school experience than any other "teenage" show out there. It was real, it was raw - sex, drugs, crazy parties, depression, pressure from family/friends, eating disorders, etc. People don't want to think their kids are doing or experiencing these things but a lot of them are. They're reaching out for connections and understanding, even if through drugs and partying. I also liked that they didn't always frame the drug use, sex and partying as the issue with these kids. Those things are definitely for fun, and can be a symptom of trying to cover up sadness and other issues, but sometimes it really is just fun. Which is the real reality behind teens growing up. But the partying, etc. isn't always a cry for help. So i really liked how the raw and the dirty was framed in the original Skins - it was REAL.
Skins US was also realistic, and the characters more likeable. They seemed like genuine friends. Almost everybody in Skins UK is a jerk or turns into one (Franky in S6 was one of my biggest disappointments as I connected to her on a deep level in S5).
And by the way, not every kid has the lifestyle shown on Skins. I didn't, and I first started watching at 12. After my adolescence ended, I did have certain experiences but they weren't fun, only traumatic. I used drugs to escape reality and barely had positive effects.
For many of us, "Inbetweeners" is more reflective of teenagehood.
I really found it kind of weird that Sid went from a kind of gross dork to a greasy stoner. I know it sounds like a lateral move but like... it almost made him as cool as Tony as opposed to a loser by comparison. I just didn’t like it.
2:17 I actually don't completely agree that Skins didn't glorify drug abuse and other issues. I started watching it when I was 13 (admittedly too young and very impressionable) but Cassie ended up furthering my ED and the overall drug abuse led to me really wanting to try just about anything lol. Love the show tho.
I actually completely agree, same happened to me. But the problem is no matter how a show presents issues people will always find a way to romanticize it
I get where you are coming from, but I still think it didn’t glorify anything. The thing is when you’re in a bad place you want to escape so even tho you saw how awful an ed ,drugs,cheating, depression and lying is, you don’t care because you’re already f*ed up in your head. You were triggered by Cassie because of something that was already an issue for you.
LL I get where you’re coming from, thank you for sharing that story haha. I get that, throwing parties and experimenting with drugs out of boredom. But I still think that things like eating disorders and depression aren’t caused by tv shows, don’t think it’s helpful either, to watch a dark show like skins when you’re feeling down. But we still do it haha
@@marlou.w I never said that the tv show created my issues I said that it furthered what was already there. TV shows don't create mental problems lmao. My point is that since there are virtually no consequences for anything that the characters do (mainly the near constant drug abuse) it does in fact glorify that behaviour.
Kristin I don’t agree, Cassie almost dies, Effy almost dies Chris actually dies. You see them feeling like shit all the time. Cook sells drug to a girl, that kills herself moments later. Skins made me scared of drugs more than it made me wanna do it. Everyone is different I guess
A HBO-ran American remake of Skins could have actually done pretty well I think. From other shows they’ve done they seem for the most part to know what they’re doing with all types of audiences. They also have the balls to keep a lot of the raunchiness and raw-teenage realism that made the original Skins so special to people of the same age as the characters.
Guy from Get Out & Black Panther was also in Skins :----)
His name is Daniel Kaluuya.
Posh Kenneth!
@@eaqua56 yes. I couldn't remember it. Thanks.
If I remember correctly he even wrote an episode or two
so was gendry from GOT, and the main actor in slumdog millionaire.
I couldnt shake the fact that the actress for Eura looked familiar, and then i realized I went to highschool with her lol
29:24 to be honest everyone was in love with Effy.
as an American, I didn't even bother watching Skins US.
Skins UK was it for me. 💜
You made a good choice
I'm just glad the US version never got to season 3-4 and ruined our boy cook.
This!!!
masspengu1n they probably would have killed off freddie in some weird-ass way too
Jack O’Connell is from my home town I couldn’t be more proud
Its not as simple to say UK Skins are lower class. when I stayed in houses that look like that it was more middle class, and I think they characters are meant to float between poor to middle classish (differs between characters). UK has more social mobility then America as well so that's a factor.
There's a poorer council house part of Bristol that's more properly imporverished.
Im so glad you mentioned how sweet Jal was. I loved her character so much
The Americans in the show are too rich it doesn’t have the same effect