I've heard people parallel Teach (of Xenoblade 3) with Amalthus, basically an idea of What If Amalthus made different choices even with a similar worldview. Curious to see if that shows up here.
23:46- 25:06 This was one of the most important aspects I learned from Xenoblade 2 during the time I needed to learn it the most. Happy someone else talked about it.
Honestly, given the state of the world and my life, I can't help but feel like I'm slipping into a version of what Amalthus, Joran, or N is... it terrifies me to no end, and yet... Thank you for making this. It's a perfect insight into what drives a person to become silently omnicidal and truly lose hope, and how best to avoid it. Hopefully I end up with the ability to manifest the a better world for myself and others someday... however much I don't it will actually happen.
@@jyapp4489 I put a lot of effort so that this video was as practical as possible. I wanted everyone to see a bit of Amalthus "tendencies" in themselves and how to rise above it with "existentialist" perspectives. You are actually manifesting a reality right now. It is a matter of whether "you" are at the helm or the stuff that happens to you in life. The more you slowly work on your patterns with mindfulness, the sense of control and happiness will tend to increase. The tips given in this video were suggestions that helps increase awareness of your habits. I hope it inspired you. Do your best each day to work towards your goals. It is not a sprint but a marathon. Most importantly always stay present. Enjoy the process and never get overly fixated on results or rewards.
Fantastic breakdown of Amalthus, Ontos! I swear there's always something new that you introduce which I never thought about with Xenoblade, and I'm always appreciative for your videos in doing so. It's so interesting to think about the downward spiral Amalthus descended within, and how the trauma of his past made him view the world the way he did. The power of each person's individual will and what you do with that will is ultimately up to them, thus manifesting and shaping their future, whether it be a productive one, or self-destructive path. I know I'm probably just reiterating themes you've mentioned in the video, but I've gotta type what comes to mind, as it helps with mental growth and deep thoughts which need to be fed. It's like a hunger trying to dissect philosophy within Xenoblade, and your content satiates said hunger. Looking forward to the next one brother, love your videos ❤
Thank you so much. It was a bit hard to write this script since I structured this differently than my usual style. I'm glad you are always here to give me your thoughts. I'm just doing my best to share my love for Xenoblade and UA-cam allowing me the space and the opportunity to connect with like minded people like you. I'm working on the Last of Us Part 2 analysis literally day and night to create the strongest possible analysis. I remember you telling me how you've played that game. A different.... more...crazy side of me will pop up in this analysis here and there ;)) But I don't want to spoil too much :P I need like 2 weeks to cook it. Thank you for your patience. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.
Great breakdown of Amalthus Ontos! i kind of also have my own words to say about Amalthus but i dont know how to organize them well because if theres one thing i can say, Amalthus is one of many reactions when faced with world shattering events. Because there is also Klaus and Jin and even Malos to some extension.
@Ontos99 thank you. I was honestly going to write this comment as I was watching the video so that I don't miss any points. Unfortunately I didn't finish the video but I kinda got the whole point about Amalthus. Now I'm thinking of rewatching the video again especially after randomly finding a video about Identities The Topic in Xenoblade 2 and 3.
“The world doesn’t just vanish, just because you close your eyes” That line reminds me of one of the last lines that Leonard (Guy Pearce) says at the very end of the movie. Also, does the incident in the cabin remind anyone else here of the scene in Attack on Titan when Mikasa was still a child?? Just curious. I see some interesting parallels there…
Deep down, it was all about his mother, and his loneliness. When he lost everything, once death granted him peace, all he saw was his mother. All he did, the plotting, the pursuit of power, the control. It was all to fill the void he always lived with. I can't help but feel bad at the moment of his death, as much as I think he had it coming. Amalthus was a terrible man. But that was born from a victimized boy. A boy that grew up alone. He despised humanity because humanity loathed him from the start. And much like Malos, one chance encounter, earlier in his life, could've made a world of difference. A recurring theme, too. Consul N is much the same. Logos knows who to go to, I suppose.
@@DS_DoggerX In fact, lets not downplay the father as well. If the Architect was welcoming when the Amalthus was still "on the fence" (kinda), he would not go down the deep end maybe and feel like there is a reason and rhyme to this madness even as an adult. To realize why the Architect was so regretful of his scientist days and what led to their doom would be an invaluable perspective to an Amalthus who was willing to listen and absorb. But due to his state ot consciousness, he was only able to bond with Malos and when Pneuma wasnt there, only the abyss of despair was reflected over and over again. As you said, no one who could truly question his observations or worldview came up ever since his mother's rape and murder which is just sad. Luck plays a factor in our growth just as much as being open minded. Also deeply seated childhood traumas require more work than usual to heal. Im just happy Amalthus was able to smile at his final moments hugging his mother. Finally feeling the love he was not able to feel for so long
A point to be made about how "Amalthus did not have to be like that" is that his broad type of tragedy is not exactly unique in the series. Shulk and Rex also lost their parents when they were little and they never reached the "limit of dejection and hate"(Japanese name of "Over Despair and Animus". Very fitting). The major characters in 3 only ever knew two important people even vaguely similar to parents, the queens, but then they have to learn that those two were constructs and their entire lives were a pointless sham, a mere tool to ensure the immortality of corrupt people in a world that they themselves made not worth living in normally, let alone forever. Not getting to form yourself correctly is always going to affect a person negatively. Amalthus may have never trusted people or liked the world after what happened to him. But how to cope with it and how to act out trauma is never a set thing. At least he ended up where he needed to be after his death.
Rather than the events that happen to us in life (even tragic and hard to process ones), what matters is our response. Noah while suffering still in N's prison watching Mio slowly die with her homecoming, that's a tough situation to still maintain resolve and optimism. But that's what Xenoblade and Nietzsche teaches us. The ubermensch marches on to manifest his meaning and reality continuously ;))
If I’m being honest, both this video and the comment section terrify me a little bit. When I was a child, I remember my parents once told me “Do not trust anyone because they will try to use you for their own benefit sooner or later”. I don’t remember why they told that to me, but as a kid that always believed what my parents told me… yeah, you can imagine how that went. I firmly believed that until 10-11, when the fact that I was alone started to sink in my little mind. I resolved to believe that I simply was utter trash. After that, I decided to try to learn how to interact with people. Didn’t go well initially, but after two years I managed to make a little bit of progress. Then, a thought invaded my head: “If I am trash, what right do I have to be alive?” Even though on the outside I seemed ok, I was still very harmed on the inside. Those thoughts eventually ceased (although there are still scars left), and I tried to make some other friends. I still wasn’t able to trust myself nor others, which harmed those relationships, but slowly I started to try to trust them. I got mixed results from that. However, even to this day, I still feel like a ghost when I’m with them: conversations happen around me, but I am not able to take part in them. I feel somewhat dragged everywhere, despite the fact that most of our meetings are arranged by me. Precisely yesterday we celebrated a birthday party. I felt precisely as I just described. I don’t know what to do with myself. I have thought of maybe leaving them. However, I can tell I don’t have the willpower to do that. They are still beloved to me. I haven’t told anyone about this (also, as you can imagine, this is a fake account I just created for commenting this). Maybe I should ask for help, but I don’t know how to even start a conversation asking for help. Also, I fear that my mental wellbeing might not be important for others, or that they will end up feeling pity of me. I am pretty fearful of revealing how I really feel to someone else. If fear that one day I will turn into some kind of Amalthus. I feel like whenever I manage to go two steps forward, life shoots me ten steps back. When I got to university, I got new friends, but the same feelings prevailed. I just would like to ask some advice from anyone. Just take in mind that I am pretty weak, and I can’t simply “go and talk to more people”. I desperately need some way of dealing with myself first. (As a side note, I apologize for any kind of grammatical or ortographical error. English is not my first language)
@@HolaHolita-x5t Keep in mind that Im not a professional and I do suggest seeing one as what you are going through is serious and the idea that you can fix it by yourself without any help might not be a good or practical idea in our case. So make an appointment with a psychologist to make sure tangible accountability structures are in place. Once thats taken care of, I suggest reading the book " The Mind Illuminated" by Culadasa and starting a daily mindfulness practice. Watch my Crys analysis released 1 week ago where I discuss some of these concepts. Finally, feel free to chill a bit. Focus on enjoying your alone time first. Find a goal or hobby or something you enjoy doing without depending on someone else's presence. Piano. Drawing. Reading. Writing. Whatever you are passionate about. Do it everyday. It will help you trust in yourself to follow through on your intentions Regarding the idea of "being trash" thats similarly an idea that was instilled on you from a young age. So dont believe in it so readily. When you have hobbies you can partake in which gives you a sense of challenge and mastery (like the ball guy in Lanz' quest) you will feel more and more capable and powerful. My Crys analysis also focuses on these subjects. Hope u like it and gives u a new perspective. Much love, Take care and have a great day. Your english was great as well
Creating and building towards the ability to love yourself is really important if you're having trouble with both yourself and others. I couldn't possibly tell you how to do that but it assuredly helps to put a name to goals and objectives. It may be hard to grasp now as well but like the previous commenter stated, external help may be necessary seeing your words but mind that that is not to say you are bad or weak in any way. Sometimes help is needed and that is okay. Sending you love and hopes that you find peace
Xenoblade 2 may be my least favorite of the trilogy for reasons you've most certainly already heard 100 times but I have to give credit where it's due. XC2 had the best written villains in the entire trilogy, hands-down, no contest. Each villain has so much depth and reasoning to why they are who they are and why they do what they do. Jin is angry at the world for taking Lora away from him, he wants to change the world but takes too much of an extreme approach to it. Malos is an existential crisis of a character, he struggles to find his own identity hidden under Amalthus' influence on him and Amalthus perfectly encapsulates the human experience, in my opinion. When you learn about him and empathize with his character, you start to understand why he does what he does. He watched his mother die as a child, so he tried to help people to prevent that as much as he could... but when someone he saved turned out to kill a mother of a child, Amalthus broke. He came to extreme conclusions and was deeply afraid of believing in the world again due to what he's gone through, which is why he refuses to change when Rex asks him, doing so would break him all over again. In the end, these villains were all afraid of not knowing who they are, which is something very relatable to us in the real world. Not knowing is one of the scariest things in life. Death, for example, why do we fear it? It's simple, we don't. We do not fear death itself, but the mystery surrounding it. How will I die? Will the people I love be okay when I'm gone? What happens after death? Etc. We fear unknowns despite the fact that we are strong enough to withstand them. So what if someone is rude to me when I go outside? Imagination is often scarier than reality and in a week I will have forgotten about it. We must choose what we give meaning to and how we assign meaning to them. Will we regard the abusive words of a person who does not know us as truly reflecting on us? Or will we wipe the dirt of it off our shoulders and carry on. The point being, living in fear of what others think of us or how they treat us is the same as living in a cage. Try new things, think new ideas, enjoy what you love, accept what you hate, do what you think is right, listen to others but don't shut them out. Be free, as all life should.
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I've heard people parallel Teach (of Xenoblade 3) with Amalthus, basically an idea of What If Amalthus made different choices even with a similar worldview. Curious to see if that shows up here.
23:46- 25:06 This was one of the most important aspects I learned from Xenoblade 2 during the time I needed to learn it the most. Happy someone else talked about it.
Honestly, given the state of the world and my life, I can't help but feel like I'm slipping into a version of what Amalthus, Joran, or N is... it terrifies me to no end, and yet...
Thank you for making this. It's a perfect insight into what drives a person to become silently omnicidal and truly lose hope, and how best to avoid it. Hopefully I end up with the ability to manifest the a better world for myself and others someday... however much I don't it will actually happen.
@@jyapp4489 I put a lot of effort so that this video was as practical as possible. I wanted everyone to see a bit of Amalthus "tendencies" in themselves and how to rise above it with "existentialist" perspectives.
You are actually manifesting a reality right now. It is a matter of whether "you" are at the helm or the stuff that happens to you in life.
The more you slowly work on your patterns with mindfulness, the sense of control and happiness will tend to increase. The tips given in this video were suggestions that helps increase awareness of your habits.
I hope it inspired you. Do your best each day to work towards your goals. It is not a sprint but a marathon. Most importantly always stay present. Enjoy the process and never get overly fixated on results or rewards.
It's never too late to find your place in the world. Don't go down that path. You'll be cleaning up later.
Fantastic breakdown of Amalthus, Ontos! I swear there's always something new that you introduce which I never thought about with Xenoblade, and I'm always appreciative for your videos in doing so. It's so interesting to think about the downward spiral Amalthus descended within, and how the trauma of his past made him view the world the way he did. The power of each person's individual will and what you do with that will is ultimately up to them, thus manifesting and shaping their future, whether it be a productive one, or self-destructive path. I know I'm probably just reiterating themes you've mentioned in the video, but I've gotta type what comes to mind, as it helps with mental growth and deep thoughts which need to be fed. It's like a hunger trying to dissect philosophy within Xenoblade, and your content satiates said hunger. Looking forward to the next one brother, love your videos ❤
Thank you so much. It was a bit hard to write this script since I structured this differently than my usual style.
I'm glad you are always here to give me your thoughts. I'm just doing my best to share my love for Xenoblade and UA-cam allowing me the space and the opportunity to connect with like minded people like you.
I'm working on the Last of Us Part 2 analysis literally day and night to create the strongest possible analysis. I remember you telling me how you've played that game.
A different.... more...crazy side of me will pop up in this analysis here and there ;)) But I don't want to spoil too much :P I need like 2 weeks to cook it. Thank you for your patience. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.
@Ontos99 Anytime my man! Yes, I did play through the Last of Us II with a friend of mine, so I'd be interested to see what you've got cooking 👀
Great video, appreciate the effort thats gone into this deep look at this complex character!
Thank you. It was not an easy video to make
Great breakdown of Amalthus Ontos! i kind of also have my own words to say about Amalthus but i dont know how to organize them well because if theres one thing i can say, Amalthus is one of many reactions when faced with world shattering events. Because there is also Klaus and Jin and even Malos to some extension.
@@OmniMon94 You can organize them great already. I agree!
@Ontos99 thank you. I was honestly going to write this comment as I was watching the video so that I don't miss any points. Unfortunately I didn't finish the video but I kinda got the whole point about Amalthus. Now I'm thinking of rewatching the video again especially after randomly finding a video about Identities The Topic in Xenoblade 2 and 3.
@OmniMon94 Watch the video in its entirity because the 2nd half is interesting and practical
Yo nice video man!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
“The world doesn’t just vanish, just because you close your eyes”
That line reminds me of one of the last lines that Leonard (Guy Pearce) says at the very end of the movie.
Also, does the incident in the cabin remind anyone else here of the scene in Attack on Titan when Mikasa was still a child?? Just curious. I see some interesting parallels there…
Deep down, it was all about his mother, and his loneliness.
When he lost everything, once death granted him peace, all he saw was his mother. All he did, the plotting, the pursuit of power, the control.
It was all to fill the void he always lived with. I can't help but feel bad at the moment of his death, as much as I think he had it coming.
Amalthus was a terrible man. But that was born from a victimized boy. A boy that grew up alone.
He despised humanity because humanity loathed him from the start.
And much like Malos, one chance encounter, earlier in his life, could've made a world of difference.
A recurring theme, too. Consul N is much the same. Logos knows who to go to, I suppose.
@@DS_DoggerX In fact, lets not downplay the father as well. If the Architect was welcoming when the Amalthus was still "on the fence" (kinda), he would not go down the deep end maybe and feel like there is a reason and rhyme to this madness even as an adult.
To realize why the Architect was so regretful of his scientist days and what led to their doom would be an invaluable perspective to an Amalthus who was willing to listen and absorb.
But due to his state ot consciousness, he was only able to bond with Malos and when Pneuma wasnt there, only the abyss of despair was reflected over and over again.
As you said, no one who could truly question his observations or worldview came up ever since his mother's rape and murder which is just sad.
Luck plays a factor in our growth just as much as being open minded. Also deeply seated childhood traumas require more work than usual to heal.
Im just happy Amalthus was able to smile at his final moments hugging his mother. Finally feeling the love he was not able to feel for so long
A point to be made about how "Amalthus did not have to be like that" is that his broad type of tragedy is not exactly unique in the series. Shulk and Rex also lost their parents when they were little and they never reached the "limit of dejection and hate"(Japanese name of "Over Despair and Animus". Very fitting). The major characters in 3 only ever knew two important people even vaguely similar to parents, the queens, but then they have to learn that those two were constructs and their entire lives were a pointless sham, a mere tool to ensure the immortality of corrupt people in a world that they themselves made not worth living in normally, let alone forever.
Not getting to form yourself correctly is always going to affect a person negatively. Amalthus may have never trusted people or liked the world after what happened to him. But how to cope with it and how to act out trauma is never a set thing. At least he ended up where he needed to be after his death.
Rather than the events that happen to us in life (even tragic and hard to process ones), what matters is our response. Noah while suffering still in N's prison watching Mio slowly die with her homecoming, that's a tough situation to still maintain resolve and optimism. But that's what Xenoblade and Nietzsche teaches us. The ubermensch marches on to manifest his meaning and reality continuously ;))
If I’m being honest, both this video and the comment section terrify me a little bit. When I was a child, I remember my parents once told me “Do not trust anyone because they will try to use you for their own benefit sooner or later”. I don’t remember why they told that to me, but as a kid that always believed what my parents told me… yeah, you can imagine how that went. I firmly believed that until 10-11, when the fact that I was alone started to sink in my little mind. I resolved to believe that I simply was utter trash.
After that, I decided to try to learn how to interact with people. Didn’t go well initially, but after two years I managed to make a little bit of progress. Then, a thought invaded my head: “If I am trash, what right do I have to be alive?” Even though on the outside I seemed ok, I was still very harmed on the inside. Those thoughts eventually ceased (although there are still scars left), and I tried to make some other friends.
I still wasn’t able to trust myself nor others, which harmed those relationships, but slowly I started to try to trust them. I got mixed results from that. However, even to this day, I still feel like a ghost when I’m with them: conversations happen around me, but I am not able to take part in them. I feel somewhat dragged everywhere, despite the fact that most of our meetings are arranged by me.
Precisely yesterday we celebrated a birthday party. I felt precisely as I just described. I don’t know what to do with myself. I have thought of maybe leaving them. However, I can tell I don’t have the willpower to do that. They are still beloved to me. I haven’t told anyone about this (also, as you can imagine, this is a fake account I just created for commenting this). Maybe I should ask for help, but I don’t know how to even start a conversation asking for help. Also, I fear that my mental wellbeing might not be important for others, or that they will end up feeling pity of me. I am pretty fearful of revealing how I really feel to someone else.
If fear that one day I will turn into some kind of Amalthus. I feel like whenever I manage to go two steps forward, life shoots me ten steps back. When I got to university, I got new friends, but the same feelings prevailed. I just would like to ask some advice from anyone. Just take in mind that I am pretty weak, and I can’t simply “go and talk to more people”. I desperately need some way of dealing with myself first.
(As a side note, I apologize for any kind of grammatical or ortographical error. English is not my first language)
@@HolaHolita-x5t Keep in mind that Im not a professional and I do suggest seeing one as what you are going through is serious and the idea that you can fix it by yourself without any help might not be a good or practical idea in our case.
So make an appointment with a psychologist to make sure tangible accountability structures are in place.
Once thats taken care of, I suggest reading the book " The Mind Illuminated" by Culadasa and starting a daily mindfulness practice. Watch my Crys analysis released 1 week ago where I discuss some of these concepts.
Finally, feel free to chill a bit. Focus on enjoying your alone time first. Find a goal or hobby or something you enjoy doing without depending on someone else's presence. Piano. Drawing. Reading. Writing. Whatever you are passionate about. Do it everyday. It will help you trust in yourself to follow through on your intentions
Regarding the idea of "being trash" thats similarly an idea that was instilled on you from a young age. So dont believe in it so readily.
When you have hobbies you can partake in which gives you a sense of challenge and mastery (like the ball guy in Lanz' quest) you will feel more and more capable and powerful.
My Crys analysis also focuses on these subjects. Hope u like it and gives u a new perspective.
Much love, Take care and have a great day. Your english was great as well
Creating and building towards the ability to love yourself is really important if you're having trouble with both yourself and others. I couldn't possibly tell you how to do that but it assuredly helps to put a name to goals and objectives. It may be hard to grasp now as well but like the previous commenter stated, external help may be necessary seeing your words but mind that that is not to say you are bad or weak in any way. Sometimes help is needed and that is okay. Sending you love and hopes that you find peace
Xenoblade 2 may be my least favorite of the trilogy for reasons you've most certainly already heard 100 times but I have to give credit where it's due. XC2 had the best written villains in the entire trilogy, hands-down, no contest. Each villain has so much depth and reasoning to why they are who they are and why they do what they do. Jin is angry at the world for taking Lora away from him, he wants to change the world but takes too much of an extreme approach to it. Malos is an existential crisis of a character, he struggles to find his own identity hidden under Amalthus' influence on him and Amalthus perfectly encapsulates the human experience, in my opinion. When you learn about him and empathize with his character, you start to understand why he does what he does. He watched his mother die as a child, so he tried to help people to prevent that as much as he could... but when someone he saved turned out to kill a mother of a child, Amalthus broke. He came to extreme conclusions and was deeply afraid of believing in the world again due to what he's gone through, which is why he refuses to change when Rex asks him, doing so would break him all over again.
In the end, these villains were all afraid of not knowing who they are, which is something very relatable to us in the real world. Not knowing is one of the scariest things in life. Death, for example, why do we fear it? It's simple, we don't. We do not fear death itself, but the mystery surrounding it. How will I die? Will the people I love be okay when I'm gone? What happens after death? Etc. We fear unknowns despite the fact that we are strong enough to withstand them. So what if someone is rude to me when I go outside? Imagination is often scarier than reality and in a week I will have forgotten about it. We must choose what we give meaning to and how we assign meaning to them. Will we regard the abusive words of a person who does not know us as truly reflecting on us? Or will we wipe the dirt of it off our shoulders and carry on. The point being, living in fear of what others think of us or how they treat us is the same as living in a cage. Try new things, think new ideas, enjoy what you love, accept what you hate, do what you think is right, listen to others but don't shut them out. Be free, as all life should.