The funeral homes don't want to loss money so they fight against this, when this is the most dignified, green, and compassionate way. NOT HARSH FLAMES!
not sure why you say it's dignified and compassionate, but i agree that it seems to be very green, albeit i've seen some videos of traditional crematorium builders claim that ideally they can reduce power by up to 60%, using the body itself as the fuel source and as far as i'm aware there are no emissions allowed to be released into the air nowadays, it's all self-contained (i only base that on a video i watched of how it is in england, and i'm sure from state-to-state the laws vary widely). funeral homes would profit greatly from doing this. despite the expense, they could do this on-site with nothing more than water lines (drainage, too, i guess), and charge more than any kick-back from a crematorium would ever give. the real reason this hasn't caught on yet is because it has to go through the legislatures. sorry, but it sounds like you have really no idea what's going on and just making shit up based on how you *think* it works.
@@ryanbarker5217 so you believe you understand the business better than me? I believe you have no idea, especially with a statement ...just making shit up. I would not take your time nor mine by lying. Research may make you a better person than accusing someone they are lying, when in fact it is the truth. Smashing a scull so the brain can burn in fire is compassionate? Water has the skull intact. There is nothing wrong with any, fire, burial nor water ... but it is best you actually are in the business...done all 3 to really understand the difference . I have done all 3, so I can speak with authority. Water is more dignified than bugs eating you or waiting till you rot, or even putting formaldehyde in your body for viewing purposes. By the way formaldehyde is 100% cancarise. Water is most defiantly more dignified than fire, being pushed around in the retort...flames 8 time the temperature of boiling water...which you and I both know you can't touch boiling water... but you feel that is more dignified? There's more to burning and burial than I think you understand.
@@joycemoreau500 smashing the skull so the brain can burn in the fire is the dumbest thing i've heard on the interweb today. i never called you a liar. triggered much? i basically called you ignorant.
it has to go state by state through each legislature. while that makes it a long, slow process, it's also the way it should be politically so a state retains control of its own self. too, the career politicians at the federal level are *not* going to go along with this given the fact you're putting human remains back into peoples' drinking water. it may only be chemicals by that point, but you tell that to the unwashed masses and see how much you lose by....
At least the dead aren't liquefied to feed the living. I've seen that movie and it doesn't end well. If you see the same black cat twice you're screwed.
there's nothing wrong with it, the problem is this change has to go through a state legislature. no big deal, right? well, on the surface it sounds great... until you tell them the liquified part of the body gets recycled into your drinking water, then it's a harder sell. granted, supposedly all that's left is chemicals, it's not as if humans are being stuffed down the drain, but with all the facts in the world can you convince your grandma it's okay? in all reality this shouldn't be an issue if viewed logically, but public perception is another thing, and if you're a career politician running against a guy screaming 'soylent green!' how much do you think that's going to help your campaign?
Its actually a much better process then heat cremation in so so many ways . However the board took that position base Totally on $$$ and their members . Its sad it has come to this with many agencies, however when you fill them- Full if people in the business-making their livelihood that way- change- no matter if its good , is always put on the back burner over 💰
what lobbyists? funeral homes would love to have an aquamation set-up, and they're hardly going to put crematoriums out of business. is there some crematorium lobby influencing legislatures who are skiddish about putting human remains back into our water supply? you try convincing people of that and they'll tell you right when you can stuff your facts.
Having outlived my entire family with the exception of one sibling, I for one, have had my fill of funeral homes and cemeteries. I was also a police officer for 27 years and witnessed what happens to the bodies of poor souls that die many days or weeks before anyone even missed them. It was so sad. I tend to agree with, "The Bolenator". Most of the time I think, "They can wrap my body in a sheet and throw it in a ditch for all I care." Then I remember that I actually do know I am a child of a loving Heavenly Father who created my body in His image. That counts for something. Personally, I couldn't care less about going, "green". (that's a whole nother discussion) I only wish we worshipped our Creator as much as we do His creations. If you think flames are harsh...see what happens the next time you add water to sodium hydroxide. I guess what bothers me about this form of disposition is the fact that the liquid remains of your body are flushed into the COMMON sewer, like so much excrement or last week's spoiled spaghetti. My understanding is only your bones remain which are then pulverized into a fine powdery ash as is done after flame cremation. I'm getting to the age where I probably should make a decision so my husband or children don't have to. Definitely something to think about...
@@secoady Thanks for caring enough to reply. I knew that blood and whatever fluids that remain in our internal organs are drained and are disposed of in the common drain during the embalming process. It's also what happens when the fire department shows up after a particularly horrific car crash.They just wash all the blood and tissue into the gutter with a fire hose. Injured people bleed onto the ground, into the sink, it happens Somehow that seems different than flushing all that remains of your soft tissues into the drain. Except your skeleton of course. We never had any of our family members embalmed. To me, it just seemed like too much unnecessary messing with their bodies. I just don't know...
first thing the Mexican Cartels "Stew Maker" was doing this years ago to get rid of bodies and second what does this do to the sewer pipes when run through.
Good catch! I didn't even think of that. This is nearly identical to the soap process, except here they don't pull the fat out of solution. Watch out for funeral homes selling boutique soaps lol. Reminds me of "Fight Club".
Why, it's exactly what happens in any traditional burial or cremation, chemical reactions decompose the organic material and break it into chemical form (burning of a body does this to but the actual organics go up the chimney as smoke) the calcium of our bones is all that remains.
Patricia W think about what happens when an embalmed body is placed in a casket and then slid into a mausoleum crypt. If the body is sealed up in the casket (think rubber gasket) there is no drying and the remains become an unbelievably disgusting soup that leaks all over the place after the rubber gasket fails. Or if there is adequate ventilation, so that the body can dry out over time, it mummifies, more or less. But it’s still gross and mold and bacteria will do their work. Now think of earth burial of the remains. Here, the same thing happens, only water often makes it’s way into the casket if the ground is wet or water table high. Same result.
@@jamesbattista1466 caskets are built for gases to vent, otherwise the pressure would make them 'explode' were they airtight. there is no 'rubber gasket' failure. a properly designed mausoleum has drainage, poorly designed/cheap ones might leak the remains out the front causing streaks. mausoleums and above ground crypts have small vents. how you decompose in a normal burial depends on many factors, but also the Ph levels of the ground. i'm no mortician or expert, obviously, but i think you're kind of making shit up.
@@craiga6557 i imagine crematorium practices range widely from state to state, but in england apparently it's illegal to have 'smoke stacks,' the entire process is self-contained and there aren't those kinds of emissions. indeed, some modern cremation ovens use the body itself as the fuel and the energy efficiency is supposedly 30-60% better than traditional ovens depending on the situation (well, according the video of the sales guy i watched). there are no flames in some of these things, it seems, it's just an oven.
This machine does the same thing that the ground does only it decays the body in a few hours. Way more natural than regular cremation.
guess you're really not up on modern cremation methods. i agree it's more natural, but it's not as effective.
and you get more of the ashes than a regular fire cremation, so yes much more effective
The funeral homes don't want to loss money so they fight against this, when this is the most dignified, green, and compassionate way. NOT HARSH FLAMES!
not sure why you say it's dignified and compassionate, but i agree that it seems to be very green, albeit i've seen some videos of traditional crematorium builders claim that ideally they can reduce power by up to 60%, using the body itself as the fuel source and as far as i'm aware there are no emissions allowed to be released into the air nowadays, it's all self-contained (i only base that on a video i watched of how it is in england, and i'm sure from state-to-state the laws vary widely).
funeral homes would profit greatly from doing this. despite the expense, they could do this on-site with nothing more than water lines (drainage, too, i guess), and charge more than any kick-back from a crematorium would ever give. the real reason this hasn't caught on yet is because it has to go through the legislatures.
sorry, but it sounds like you have really no idea what's going on and just making shit up based on how you *think* it works.
@@ryanbarker5217 so you believe you understand the business better than me? I believe you have no idea, especially with a statement ...just making shit up. I would not take your time nor mine by lying. Research may make you a better person than accusing someone they are lying, when in fact it is the truth.
Smashing a scull so the brain can burn in fire is compassionate? Water has the skull intact. There is nothing wrong with any, fire, burial nor water ... but it is best you actually are in the business...done all 3 to really understand the difference . I have done all 3, so I can speak with authority. Water is more dignified than bugs eating you or waiting till you rot, or even putting formaldehyde in your body for viewing purposes. By the way formaldehyde is 100% cancarise. Water is most defiantly more dignified than fire, being pushed around in the retort...flames 8 time the temperature of boiling water...which you and I both know you can't touch boiling water... but you feel that is more dignified? There's more to burning and burial than I think you understand.
@@joycemoreau500 smashing the skull so the brain can burn in the fire is the dumbest thing i've heard on the interweb today.
i never called you a liar. triggered much? i basically called you ignorant.
i agree. i will do this when i die as well as my pets. i dont want traditional burial. this is much safer than fire cremation as well
dignified
Please legalize this method in all states.
it has to go state by state through each legislature. while that makes it a long, slow process, it's also the way it should be politically so a state retains control of its own self. too, the career politicians at the federal level are *not* going to go along with this given the fact you're putting human remains back into peoples' drinking water. it may only be chemicals by that point, but you tell that to the unwashed masses and see how much you lose by....
its legal in Oregon
So, liquifying a human and sending their remains down the sewer is even considered? How callous have people become? 😣
At least the dead aren't liquefied to feed the living. I've seen that movie and it doesn't end well. If you see the same black cat twice you're screwed.
I suppose regulations need to be considered, like for people who have been going through chemo.
So that crap gets released into the water??
If it's okay to burn a body then why not this???
there's nothing wrong with it, the problem is this change has to go through a state legislature. no big deal, right? well, on the surface it sounds great... until you tell them the liquified part of the body gets recycled into your drinking water, then it's a harder sell. granted, supposedly all that's left is chemicals, it's not as if humans are being stuffed down the drain, but with all the facts in the world can you convince your grandma it's okay?
in all reality this shouldn't be an issue if viewed logically, but public perception is another thing, and if you're a career politician running against a guy screaming 'soylent green!' how much do you think that's going to help your campaign?
I live in St. Louis, MO. I just used this in January when my sister died, and will use it when I die.
I've researched this quite a bit and it will be the way I choose to physically "go out" as well.
Don't leave me alone Cathy :( and promise me you will never talk about your death again.
@@doctorpanigrahi9975 how can I be leaving you alone when I don't even know you?
@@cathywestholt5324 Pardon my ignorance. :(
Its actually a much better process then heat cremation in so so many ways . However the board took that position base Totally on $$$ and their members . Its sad it has come to this with many agencies, however when you fill them- Full if people in the business-making their livelihood that way- change- no matter if its good , is always put on the back burner over 💰
Lets keep it real, these cemeteries have no room to bury anybody. We dont know what happens to our loved ones once they pass
Florida uses that procedure for humans
yep. i plan to do this when i die
LOL, I found a servise in central Florida that has a website and sent some questions, NEVER heard back from them
lobbyists doing what lobbyists do!!
what lobbyists? funeral homes would love to have an aquamation set-up, and they're hardly going to put crematoriums out of business. is there some crematorium lobby influencing legislatures who are skiddish about putting human remains back into our water supply? you try convincing people of that and they'll tell you right when you can stuff your facts.
Kinda like boiling you in Drano Water.
Having outlived my entire family with the exception of one sibling, I for one, have had my fill of funeral homes and cemeteries. I was also a police officer for 27 years and witnessed what happens to the bodies of poor souls that die many days or weeks before anyone even missed them. It was so sad. I tend to agree with, "The Bolenator". Most of the time I think, "They can wrap my body in a sheet and throw it in a ditch for all I care." Then I remember that I actually do know I am a child of a loving Heavenly Father who created my body in His image. That counts for something. Personally, I couldn't care less about going, "green". (that's a whole nother discussion) I only wish we worshipped our Creator as much as we do His creations. If you think flames are harsh...see what happens the next time you add water to sodium hydroxide.
I guess what bothers me about this form of disposition is the fact that the liquid remains of your body are flushed into the COMMON sewer, like so much excrement or last week's spoiled spaghetti. My understanding is only your bones remain which are then pulverized into a fine powdery ash as is done after flame cremation.
I'm getting to the age where I probably should make a decision so my husband or children don't have to. Definitely something to think about...
@@secoady Thanks for caring enough to reply. I knew that blood and whatever fluids that remain in our internal organs are drained and are disposed of in the common drain during the embalming process. It's also what happens when the fire department shows up after a particularly horrific car crash.They just wash all the blood and tissue into the gutter with a fire hose. Injured people bleed onto the ground, into the sink, it happens Somehow that seems different than flushing all that remains of your soft tissues into the drain. Except your skeleton of course. We never had any of our family members embalmed. To me, it just seemed like too much unnecessary messing with their bodies. I just don't know...
Yep, watched one operation and the owner put the remains in jugs and took them home to spray on his bushes
@@REVNUMANEWBERN YIKES1
@@REVNUMANEWBERN YIKES
Agree, it's strange and sounds gross. Death sucks no matter what
You dont die when you die. Your cells are still alive. You are only really gone when all cells are dead.
first thing the Mexican Cartels "Stew Maker" was doing this years ago to get rid of bodies and second what does this do to the sewer pipes when run through.
It's cleaner and you become fertilizer
Why are they not commenting?
Lawyers 🤫
Alcaline hydrolysis? My grandma used to make home-made soap from animal fat and sodium hydroxide.
Good catch! I didn't even think of that. This is nearly identical to the soap process, except here they don't pull the fat out of solution. Watch out for funeral homes selling boutique soaps lol. Reminds me of "Fight Club".
Soylent Green!
I don't care what they do with my body after I'm gone as long as I'm not getting skull poked or something knocking on my back door HAHA
are you talking about of liquid poop
Except for more bones left over. Ick.
Nothing dignified about this at all.
this is probably the most dignified method ive seen by far, screw burial underground. i dont want toxins injected in me anyway
@@oblongfan1 You can be buried WITHOUT embalming in many areas, check on it
Personally I see this is as the most dignified way to go out...
Chemically dissolve my body? Wth? No thanks!
Why, it's exactly what happens in any traditional burial or cremation, chemical reactions decompose the organic material and break it into chemical form (burning of a body does this to but the actual organics go up the chimney as smoke) the calcium of our bones is all that remains.
Patricia W think about what happens when an embalmed body is placed in a casket and then slid into a mausoleum crypt. If the body is sealed up in the casket (think rubber gasket) there is no drying and the remains become an unbelievably disgusting soup that leaks all over the place after the rubber gasket fails. Or if there is adequate ventilation, so that the body can dry out over time, it mummifies, more or less. But it’s still gross and mold and bacteria will do their work. Now think of earth burial of the remains. Here, the same thing happens, only water often makes it’s way into the casket if the ground is wet or water table high. Same result.
@@jamesbattista1466 caskets are built for gases to vent, otherwise the pressure would make them 'explode' were they airtight. there is no 'rubber gasket' failure. a properly designed mausoleum has drainage, poorly designed/cheap ones might leak the remains out the front causing streaks. mausoleums and above ground crypts have small vents. how you decompose in a normal burial depends on many factors, but also the Ph levels of the ground.
i'm no mortician or expert, obviously, but i think you're kind of making shit up.
@@craiga6557 i imagine crematorium practices range widely from state to state, but in england apparently it's illegal to have 'smoke stacks,' the entire process is self-contained and there aren't those kinds of emissions. indeed, some modern cremation ovens use the body itself as the fuel and the energy efficiency is supposedly 30-60% better than traditional ovens depending on the situation (well, according the video of the sales guy i watched). there are no flames in some of these things, it seems, it's just an oven.
no chemicals. just water/alkaline water
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Who owns a mortuary, who...?