Very informative. I remember the first time I saw a syntropic garden I thought what a messy garden! I was then informed that it was meant to mimic nature. This video has explained that even further thank you. 🌞🌲
Great content Andy, keep it up! This has been my exact experience also. Anything planted out in the paddock without protection really suffered, whereas my new fruit tree and rainforest plantings protected by pigeon pea or acacias are thriving. I really believe this is going to be the farming of the future. Resilience is going to be key! Looking forward to the next instalment, Alex 💚🌿
Permaculture is a holistic design system for creating sustainable human habitats by following nature's patterns. Whereas Syntropic agroforestry is a regenerative agricultural practice that involves the integration of trees, crops, and sometimes animals in a way that mimics natural forest ecosystems. I think the key distinction is that, Syntropics is trying to replicate a natural forest ecosystem whereas permaculture is more about sustainable design for living.
@@SyntropicPantry-dw4ew You must have never seen Global Gardener-Bill Molison. He describes the orign of Permaculture as " regenerative agricultural practice that involves the integration of trees, crops, and sometimes animals in a way that mimics natural forest ecosystems". The dude that coined Permaculture and this movement was literally a forest ecologist looking to mimic the abundance of the forest for human consumption. Syntropic farming is nothing more than the first principles of Permaculture as far as I can tell.
@@frictionhitch And how was Permaculture not just a rebranding of P.A. Yeomans’ Keyline Scale of Permanence and Keyline Design? He was doing the work of “permaculture” in the 50’s & 60’s, long before Mollison and Holmgren ever came along. He published his first book on his work, The Keyline Plan, in 1954, and The City Forest in 1971, among others. Or maybe it’s a rebranding of Masanobu Fukuoka’s Natural Farming work. One Straw Revolution, containing MANY of the same principles that permaculture proposes, was published 17 years before Mollison’s Permaculture Design Manual. Or maybe Sepp Holzer who began his work in ecological farming in the 1960’s. Or maybe J. Russell Smith who published Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture in 1929, from which Mollison actually credits as the source of his coining the term permaculture. And in case you were unaware, Ernst Gotsch has been practicing, developing, and teaching Syntropic Agroforestry since the early 80’s. So, it’s not like this some new system that has just adapted everything from permaculture. It was an independently developed system that came into being around the same time Mollison and others were starting permaculture. It just never really got as widespread and well known, because it was being practiced primarily in areas of South America, outside of a predominantly English language translation. Or maybe all of them are just a rebranding of the ways and principles our ancestors farmed and lived for thousands of years long before industrial farming ever appeared on the scene. The point is, everyone is always standing on the shoulders of giants. There’s no need for one system to claim ultimate authority or originality. They all share common principles, practices, and techniques. And they also all have some ideas or practices unique to them. And they can all be incorporated together, or practiced exclusively depending on the stewards. I think one of the struggles or dislikes that some people have with permaculture sometimes, at least as I’ve witnessed and heard from others over the years, is that permaculture practitioners and communities can often come across as very dogmatic and, perhaps, even a bit cultish at times, and it drives them away from wanting to engage in that community. So, perhaps, the Syntropic Agroforestry community just wants to engage in the practice of naturally stewarding land holistically, without having some judgmental dogma thrown at them, sort of like how you did here. Ultimately, all of these systems are all working towards common goals, sometimes just with minor tweaks to how they follow that path. If anything, there should be more cross-communication and collective cooperation rather than one system trying to claim preeminence.
@@tcoxor52 What? Rebranding what every knows as permaculture is not only unnecessary but makes it harder for people to get the information they need. Syntropic Agroforestry is just too much. Who is looking for creative credit? Mollison is dead and Permaculture is an open term. Keyline is great but it refers to a strategy. Sometimes keyline is a bad idea. Bill Molison said that he left Permaculture under an open use trademark because the best practitioners were yet to come. BTW I am an Arborist so I should love the Syntropic AgroForestry term but I don't. Convoluted bs turns minds off. We need billions to make a lifestyle change. Just call it Permaculture or homesteading or sustainable ag. We don't need this term. I bet somebody owns it
Very informative. I remember the first time I saw a syntropic garden I thought what a messy garden! I was then informed that it was meant to mimic nature. This video has explained that even further thank you. 🌞🌲
Soo great Andy very informative video thanks 😊
Great content Andy, keep it up! This has been my exact experience also. Anything planted out in the paddock without protection really suffered, whereas my new fruit tree and rainforest plantings protected by pigeon pea or acacias are thriving. I really believe this is going to be the farming of the future. Resilience is going to be key! Looking forward to the next instalment, Alex 💚🌿
Thanks Alex...:)
Beautiful video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
coffee has always been grown in the shade.
Nitrogen from the pigeon pea a factor for greening of the coffee tree?
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Why make a new name for biodynamic permaculture?
How is this not just trying to rebrand Permaculture? It is Permaculture. Do you really need a new word so that you can claim the ideas?
Permaculture is a holistic design system for creating sustainable human habitats by following nature's patterns. Whereas Syntropic agroforestry is a regenerative agricultural practice that involves the integration of trees, crops, and sometimes animals in a way that mimics natural forest ecosystems. I think the key distinction is that, Syntropics is trying to replicate a natural forest ecosystem whereas permaculture is more about sustainable design for living.
@@SyntropicPantry-dw4ew You must have never seen Global Gardener-Bill Molison. He describes the orign of Permaculture as " regenerative agricultural practice that involves the integration of trees, crops, and sometimes animals in a way that mimics natural forest ecosystems".
The dude that coined Permaculture and this movement was literally a forest ecologist looking to mimic the abundance of the forest for human consumption. Syntropic farming is nothing more than the first principles of Permaculture as far as I can tell.
Syntropic Farming, permaculture without the hippies. Lol. 😂
@@frictionhitch And how was Permaculture not just a rebranding of P.A. Yeomans’ Keyline Scale of Permanence and Keyline Design? He was doing the work of “permaculture” in the 50’s & 60’s, long before Mollison and Holmgren ever came along. He published his first book on his work, The Keyline Plan, in 1954, and The City Forest in 1971, among others. Or maybe it’s a rebranding of Masanobu Fukuoka’s Natural Farming work. One Straw Revolution, containing MANY of the same principles that permaculture proposes, was published 17 years before Mollison’s Permaculture Design Manual. Or maybe Sepp Holzer who began his work in ecological farming in the 1960’s. Or maybe J. Russell Smith who published Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture in 1929, from which Mollison actually credits as the source of his coining the term permaculture.
And in case you were unaware, Ernst Gotsch has been practicing, developing, and teaching Syntropic Agroforestry since the early 80’s. So, it’s not like this some new system that has just adapted everything from permaculture. It was an independently developed system that came into being around the same time Mollison and others were starting permaculture. It just never really got as widespread and well known, because it was being practiced primarily in areas of South America, outside of a predominantly English language translation.
Or maybe all of them are just a rebranding of the ways and principles our ancestors farmed and lived for thousands of years long before industrial farming ever appeared on the scene.
The point is, everyone is always standing on the shoulders of giants. There’s no need for one system to claim ultimate authority or originality. They all share common principles, practices, and techniques. And they also all have some ideas or practices unique to them. And they can all be incorporated together, or practiced exclusively depending on the stewards.
I think one of the struggles or dislikes that some people have with permaculture sometimes, at least as I’ve witnessed and heard from others over the years, is that permaculture practitioners and communities can often come across as very dogmatic and, perhaps, even a bit cultish at times, and it drives them away from wanting to engage in that community.
So, perhaps, the Syntropic Agroforestry community just wants to engage in the practice of naturally stewarding land holistically, without having some judgmental dogma thrown at them, sort of like how you did here. Ultimately, all of these systems are all working towards common goals, sometimes just with minor tweaks to how they follow that path. If anything, there should be more cross-communication and collective cooperation rather than one system trying to claim preeminence.
@@tcoxor52 What?
Rebranding what every knows as permaculture is not only unnecessary but makes it harder for people to get the information they need.
Syntropic Agroforestry is just too much.
Who is looking for creative credit?
Mollison is dead and Permaculture is an open term.
Keyline is great but it refers to a strategy. Sometimes keyline is a bad idea.
Bill Molison said that he left Permaculture under an open use trademark because the best practitioners were yet to come.
BTW I am an Arborist so I should love the Syntropic AgroForestry term but I don't.
Convoluted bs turns minds off. We need billions to make a lifestyle change.
Just call it Permaculture or homesteading or sustainable ag.
We don't need this term.
I bet somebody owns it