Dreamcast vs PlayStation 2 (SoulCalibur vs Soul Calibur II) Side by Side Comparison

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

Dreamcast owners got this at launch in 1999. Plus the resolution is better.

[@fernandopereira6445]

Soulcalibur II on the PS2 supports progressive scan (525p) through component, at least that's what it says on the backcover of the Japanese version of the game as well as Tekken 4.

[@alexpace1783]

@@fernandopereira6445 yes all versions of SC2 support progressive scan.
Also, the Dreamcast launched in Japan in 1998 with SC1 releasing there 8 months later which only made SC1 a US launch title by proxy.

[@bromanndibs3709]

Ps2 one supports widescreen

[@Pierrecommentary]

On redream it’s at 60 and it runs good on my old laptop

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

@@alexpace1783 I don't live in Japan so it launching in 1998 doesn't mean anything.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Soul Calibur really only shows its age when you stack it up against it's sequel. That's really saying something.

[@exaltedb]

Yea especially since the original was a show of force for the Dreamcast and still holds up beautifully

[@jorgel.quiroz8862]

Funny enough Soul Callibur III doesn't look quite as good as II.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@jorgel.quiroz8862 It's kinda like they stopped trying at that point.

[@jay1177]

Dreamcast has better image quality, while the ps2 has more going on and additional textures

[@hurricane7727]

Those are Two Different Soul Calibur Games Though so the Comparison makes no sense

[@Gigantemanatee]

@GTgo Ahead of its time really, it was the first home console to do on-line gaming and it brought most of the near dying arcade scene (in the UK at least) into the home console market. Sometimes even bettering it, case in point, Soul Calibur. Spectacular display of coding from Namco. Pity Sega couldn’t pull off the same with VF3 instead of farming the job out to Genki. Still, it did the job… just.

[@brandonfarfan1978]

The Dreamcast and PS2 SoulCalibur games both look good graphically. But the PS2 version has a slightly higher polycount in the 3d models, and better graphics in some areas. The dreamcast SoulCalibur, has better image quality over the PS2 version, smoother animations, and better graphics in some areas too.
Being an animator for over 10 years, I noticed in this vid, and from watching the weapons demonstrations from both games in real life, that the motion capture and animations for the kata's, are smoother in the dreamcast version, and a bit janky in the PS2 version. You can see a few missing frames of animation, in the PS2 version, when the characters do their weapons demonstration.

[@msouza-fu1zc]

Os gráficos do SC no Dreamcast são perfeitos, tudo é lindo: cores, texturas, cenários, movimentos... tudo isso em 1999! Lembro que ficava besta com aquela qualidade toda na TV da minha sala, era um verdadeiro arcade em casa.

[@sinister8739]

Inferior aos do PS2

[@pires7spc]

@@sinister8739 Aí você caiu da cama e acordou, Marvel vs Capcom 2 do DREAMCAST mandou lembrancas pro Marvel vs Capcom 2 do play 2.

[@marcosribeiro2518]

O dreamcast mesmo sendo mais velho arrassava o ps2

[@SmSimon6978]

@@marcosribeiro2518 Tekken 5,god of war,devil may cry 3...
Nada disso tem no dreamcast.
Vou de ps2.
Dreamcast é tão bom que foi descontinuado,ps2 esmerilhou o dreamcast.

[@SmSimon6978]

@@pires7spc Não notei grandes coisas mas ao menos tem todos os kofs e coletâneas no ps2.

[@atarijaguarsgarage8873]

DC holds up well, it was the perfect SC in my mind!
Of course, SC 2 shows more geometry details in the stages, better lightinhg and some effects like cube bump maps. However, the art direction is occasionally a bit weaker and some textures on the ground look fuzzy.
You can tell it is the same engine slightly improved.

[@realamericannegro977]

I perfer the art direction in 1 too. 1 and 2 are the best looking in the series in my opinion

[@Reiner-n3c]

Lighting is better in sc 1 along with the textures

[@kiriyama83]

No sabía que los movimientos de las demostraciones eran iguales en SoulCalibur y Soul Calibur 2🤐
El 2 es una maravilla, pero el 1 estaba incluso adelantado a su época, era un juego insuperable en su momento.
Mirándolo bien, no hay una diferencia importante del primero al segundo.
Yo me quedo con el de Dreamcast, porque tienen mucho mérito esos gráficos y animaciones en 1999.

[@tomianz-1242]

Y pensar que es una versión mejorada de la versión arcade. Más impresionante incluso, ya que el juego en si es más viejo (1998) si tomamos el juego base de la arcade. Basicament estamos comparando un juego con 5 años de diferencia

[@kiriyama83]

@@tomianz-1242 Totalmente de acuerdo compañero! Es una bestialidad en todos los sentidos, mire por donde se mire, saludos

[@facundoleonrugerio3245]

Además cada personaje en el Soulcalibur de 1999 tenia su propio escenario en el 2 no, ya fue en Soulcalibur 3 que cada personaje tenía su escenario algunos del SC de 1999 volvieron en el SC3 y también algunos temas musicales.

[@nikito370]

I loved SC for the Dreamcast and I always liked the brighter effects on the weapons, but I think scenarios are more complex in SC2, perhaps because the Soul Calibur 1 were very influenced by the arenas of Soul Blade 1, very prone to ring-outs. Also, Soul Calibur was a Dreamcast exclusive, so we'll never know how it looked on the PS2.

[@user-qw4lm1]

Textur ram dc 8mb > ps2 4mb

[@peterpereira3653]

Dreamcast can do textures better than PS2. PS2 textures were never a strong point. Some PS2 games even lacked textures that Dreamcast version had.

[@southsidetherealest2860]

it would look ugly in the texture department ps2 ha the worse graphics of that gen it lost to every console in graphics often having cut down versions of games but fanboys kept it alive by lying about 300 bit graphics 😂

[@waynecuff3140]

Again the the PS2 was so overhyped. The DC could keep up quite nicely. Regarding SC2 if the DC would of had the sequel im sure the comparison would be very close indeed. I'm pretty sure the DC had plenty more to give technically. Unfortunately it didn't get the support it deserved.

[@demgreens]

I think a more accurate comparison for the Dreamcast release of Soul Calibur is the PlayStation 2 version of Tekken Tag Tournament. Both were Namco titles that ran on the System 12 board - essentially souped-up PlayStation 1 hardware - in arcades and were ported to more powerful next-gen consoles and thus could have better graphics. Soul Calibur II was made on the System 246 Board which is almost identical to the PlayStation 2 and as a result it shows much more complex character model, lighting and geometric detail than its predecessor.
Soul Calibur on Dreamcast has some advantages with regards to image quality, but everything being displayed is less complex. It still has fine art direction and lots of color, so it will always be nice to look at.

[@richardp1592]

Tive Soulcalibur pro Dreamcast e era algo lindo, até hoje é, o narrador(na verdade ele falava ao início ou final da luta)era muito bom também, acho legal jogos com narradores. Gostava muito de Dead or Alive 2 também.

[@Armando.Sepulveda]

The Dreamcast soul calibur was more revealing than the PS2 soul calibur 2 and plus it was still the nineties when the Sega Dreamcast was barely emerging

[@paperluigi6132]

2 is better, but it’s insane how well 1 holds up to this day.

[@rikratosbits9175]

O dreamcast fazia isso no começo da sua vida, com uma mídia bem ultrapassada até para a época. Imagina se o Dream trabalhasse com o tamanho de mídia do DVD...

[@bizarroeddie1]

Soul calibur is a system 12 game and DC's port only improves it, so the stages are very empty next to SC2 or even Dead or Alive 2.

[@hernanedias554]

I loved this game with all I had... Started on Soul Blade, simply unforgettable !!!

[@BOOOOFANG]

The #1 arcade smash only in Dream Cast... the best version

[@realamericannegro977]

I love the look of SC1 the most in the series

[@JohnCharb87]

I always liked those weapon demonstrations. The colors on Dreamcast look more vibrant. Noticeable on Xianghua's pants being more eye catching. While on the Ps2 they appear drab and worn. Also the Dreamcast looks better in motion. However I did have to slow the footage down to .25 speed to really notice a difference.

[@ZinhoMegaman]

O fato de nunca poderemos comparar o Dreamcast diretamente com o PlayStation 2 é lamentável, pois os poucos jogos lançados nos dois sistemas não servem de nenhum parâmetro, uma vez que o DC estava começando a madurar e o PS2 estava na sua infância e cheio de obstáculos que os desenvolvedores ainda levariam um tempo para driblar. Uma pena não existir um desenvolvedor Indie que tenha interesse ou as ferramentas necessárias para mostrar até aonde o Dreamcast seria capaz de chegar.

[@pires7spc]

Todos os jogos do dreamcast portados para o play 2 passam vergonha.

[@mayconwilliam600]

Dreamcast tem uma forma de trabalhar com texturas muito a frente da concorrência mesmo ele tendo menos processamento ele podia alocar o dobro via cache com certeza teria entregado games com um vga impecável

[@pires7spc]

@@mayconwilliam600 DREAMCAST bem times concorrente direto caralho, play 1 ? 64 ? Não eram concorrentes de um console anos luz! E o play 2 já era de outra geração. E quando surgiu a oportunidade de vermos o potencial máximo do DREAMCAST a SEGA pediu arrego.

[@juarezmiranda]

Problema brother dev indie tem um monte, segundo problema tivesse uma Engine aberta, usando a api "Katana" ou Direct X 6, não seria diferente do Mega Drive com SGDK via Asembry.

[@Ren547]

O DC já estava obsoleto na época era impossível ele ser melhor que o PS2 já que o PS2 era mais potente, e o grande erro da Sega foi a ganância e má administração da empresa .

[@cabelo75_slot80]

Boa comparação, VCD! Por ser a continuação do Soul Calibur 1 e ser publicado por videogames de specs superiores ao Dream, é claro que haveria alguma evolução gráfica e de cenários. Contudo, nem assim a versão do DC conseguiu ser suplantada totalmente: pelos gráficos e, principalmente, pela excelente jogabilidade nos contras!
Os comandos eram responsivos a beça e qualquer personagem era bacana de se jogar, principalmente o Astaroth e o Rock. Na segunda versão, a Namco mudou um pouco esse conceito e condicionou a velocidade dos "bonecos" de acordo com o peso de suas armas e tamanhos. Para mim, gostei mais do SC1 por esse fator de equilíbrio entre os lutadores.
Esse game foi um choque em 1999 (talvez o Virtua Fighter 3 e Dead or Alive chegavam perto), nem a versão do flipper era tão bem feita quanto ao port do Dream (tai uma ideia para outro comparativo). Era realmente um privilégio jogar esse game em casa e "tampar na p0rrada" entre amigos.
Abraço!!

[@megaigor]

pena que a versão do 2 para o DC foi cancelada pq o console morreu...
seria legar ter um personagem do Golden Axe na versão de DC

[@pricilabarbosaoliveira]

Ele não morreu,foi tirado de linha!!
Provavelmente seria o Bersek(que era exclusivo )não tinha Golden axe no Dream!

[@megaigor]

@@pricilabarbosaoliveira o Guts do Berserk vc diz? seria legal já q a de Xbox tem o Spawn... seria interessante ter um personagem de mangá.

[@ZinhoMegaman]

@@pricilabarbosaoliveira Mas o Igor tem razão, o provável seria usar um personagem da própria Sega que se misturaria com os do Soul Calibur, como os de Golden Axe ou até mesmo Shinobi. A questão de não haver jogos de ambas as séries para o Dreamcast só tornaria ainda mais interessante, já que seria a primeira vez que veríamos uma versão 3d de alta qualidade do personagem escolhido, como é o caso do Link que até hoje é um dos melhores modelos 3d já feitos dele.

[@mayconwilliam600]

@@pricilabarbosaoliveira segundo rumores da época seria Phay chan de virtua figther

[@jsr734]

One thing i notice is the Dreamcast use mipmapping on the ring's floor textures while ps2 Soul Calibur 2 doesn't. The Dreamcast textures look beautiful but i feel the character's still look somewhat "squarish". Soul Calibur 2 characters don't convince me neither but they look more "high polygon"'. Soul Calibur 2 seems to use more complex lightning and shadows with characters casting self shadows.

[@RetrOrigin]

I don't think that's mipmapping. It looks like DC is using basic bilinear filtering, which is why textures at an angle and farther from the camera look blurry. PS2 seems to be using some basic form of anisotropic filtering, so textures still retain some sharpness regardless of angle from the camera.

[@jsr734]

@@RetrOrigin but that is what mipmapping does, right? It blurs the textures from a distance from the camera to avoid texture shimmering or jaggyness. In Soul Calibur 2 the arena is using more geometric detail like loose bricks or floor tiles, while on DC is just a plain texture ( but a high quality texture).
The ps2 hardware also supports mipmapping but lots of developers didn't use it. May be because the blurry look as you said.

[@RetrOrigin]

@@jsr734 mipmaps are just lower resolution versions of the same texture (stored within the texture itself) They may indeed look blurrier due to the lower resolution, but in this particular case it looks more like a side effect of the angle at which we're looking at them from the camera.
The reason I believe this is the case is simply because the closer the camera is to the ground, the blurrier the floor gets. if you have access to older PC games that still offer the option to choose between bilinear, trilinear and anisotropic filtering you will basically see the same results.
I think many developers avoided mipmapping on PS2 just to save VRAM. The PS2 does not support hardware texture compression (DC does) so textures in general utilize much more VRAM. Later on developers found ways to compress textures by using its multi-texture capabilities. They basically saved each texture twice, once at it's original resolution but in gray scale and a low resolution version of the same texture in color. When rendered, the gray scale hi-res texture pulls color data from the low res version and with this textures end up taking roughly the same amount of VRAM as a hardware compressed texture.

[@jsr734]

but, as I understand it, hardware compression/decompression saves you memory in the main RAM not VRAM.That's why the Dreamcast has 8MB of video RAM.

[@RetrOrigin]

@@jsr734 The Power VR2 on the Dreamcast is a deferred rendered. Is not a true GPU per say as it lacks hardware T&L. Because of this all graphics data needs to be ready on VRAM before rendering a scene, which includes both mesh/geometry data and textures. This is why most Dreamcast games on average only allocate about 5MB worth of textures and 3MB or so to geometry (about 3 million polygons per second)
The PS2 does not really have dedicated VRAM, but instead is designed to store graphics data on its main 32MB pool of RAM. is not exactly the same model as shared memory but for all intents and purposes it does the same thing. On top of that the Graphics Synthesizer also an extra 4MB integrated into it intended to cache whatever is on screen at the moment.

[@ehabgamesnow2154]

I love how sharp the image on dreamcast..even on emulators games like RE CV look better

[@alphawoolf5981]

Make mine Dreamcast every time!

[@kamun006]

Dang wtf I didn't know they just recused the same weapon demonstration animations for SC2. That's pretty neat!

[@atemporalmusic6622]

Obviamente são dois motores gráficos diferentes, mas oque mais chamas atenção, é como um jogo lançado em 1999 para o Dreamcast, compete em pé de Igualdade com um jogo lançado em 2003 para o Plastation 2, Game Cube e Xbox Clássico, que foram beneficiados pela nova Engine usada em Sou Calibur 2, mas mesmo Sou Calibur 2 sendo mais novo em termos de Engine, não conseguiu envelhecer Sou Calibur, da pra entender porque Sou Calibur, é um dos jogos de lutas mais originais e lindos de todos os tempos...
É uma pena a Sega ter se vendido, e uma entidade chamada Peter Moore é Microsoft, tenham sabotado o Dreamcast nos bastidores, se Sou Calibur 2 saísse para o Dreamcast, concerteza Ryo Hazuki de Shamnue seria o personagem Extra da Versão do Dreamcast, seria um Espetáculo!

[@MarcosBay_]

Ainda prefiro a versão do Dreamcast, gosto mais das cores

[@juarezmiranda]

Soul 2 maior porcaria, bom mesmo só primeiro, Edge e o 3, resto, joga no lixo e queima.

[@giovannimarcelodasilva768]

Caralho que qualidade absurda que foi o Soul Calibur 1 para o Dreamcast hein, texturas lindíssimas, e os personagens exibidos cada um deles foram bem feitos, já referente ao Soul Calibur 2 tb foi top demais pra época e com boas texturas e personagens bem polidos, mas nessa comparação eu fico com a versão do Soul Calibur para o Dreamcast, principalmente devido as texturas serem melhores que na do 2, já os sons são um espetáculo nas 2 versões ^-^

[@noobdebusca1757]

SC 2 os personagens tem SELF Shadows, coisa não possível no dreamcast

[@southsidetherealest2860]

​@@noobdebusca1757we like textures peterpan

[@manufoxhound3622]

La version de dreamcast es una locura , y pensar que fue lanzado en 1999 , es incluso superior a soul calibur de ps2

[@alexpace1783]

Interesting comparison VCDECIDE. Could you also consider doing Tekken Tag (PS2) vs Tekken 4? It’s a similar situation.

[@renatogois5966]

Adoro o PlayStation 2 e o vídeo game q mais joguei mas o Dreamcast vence mesmo com um jogo mais antigo iso mostra o potencial do console da gigante SEGA.

[@joacosnm]

I'd have liked to see Soul Calibur 2 on Dreamcasst

[@benkeith4073]

I wonder if it would be possible to mod SCII characters into SC Dreamcast definitely thinking Link 🧐 Great comparison I have no doubt SCII would have performed well on Dreamcast

[@locked01]

Dreamcast is amazing and will always have a special spot in my life. But the PS2 version...it just takes your breath away. And I am not even considering Soul Calibur 3...

[@bigbosssnakecorn8834]

SC II might be better in char models , weapons , details and some Soul Charge particle effects but loved how in SC I the stages environment looks better than SC II for example in Xiaghua stage the blossom petals still touches the floor and has an good excuse to leave the ring due to wind or both fighters moving , Mi - Na stage shows some better darkness with smog effects specially the torch lights and also good details on Yoshi s stage smog or the river breeze of the canal as examples and finally Hwang stage with that wind and sand effect looking great also

[@IronicSonic83]

Hubiera sido lindo ver juegos de Dreamcast en el 2003 para ver cuánto aprendieron los programadores a sacarle el jugo a la consola de la misma forma que lo hicieron con PS2

[@Marchand12]

Yeah, its kind of crazy that we only have 2.5 years of dreamcast development and compare its games to games on systems that had way longer development time. Then say that it's better than dreamcast.

[@alexpace1783]

A common mistake with this notion is improvements are not necessarily attributed to time but understanding of the hardware. Most developers were simply not familiar with the PS2’s unusual/complex architecture which is why there is a more drastic difference between it’s earliest and latest AAA games. But there are early exceptions like MGS2 and Gran Turismo 3.
Dreamcast/NAOMI hardware was mostly very well understood from it’s release. The overall best showcase is perhaps Shenmue II which the Dreamcast clearly struggles with performance in crowded and detailed areas of the game. Even if big budget AAA games continued to release for Dreamcast in 2003 they most likely would not have fared any better. If there’s any Sega platform that had significant untapped potential, it would be the Saturn.
Regardless, a native Soul Calibur game on Dreamcast/NAOMI (like DOA2) would be interesting to see.

[@IronicSonic83]

@@alexpace1783 I get it but Shenmue series was developed by the same creators of the hardware, hence, the knowledge. I'm pretty sure Namco, Capcom or Konami, or even western studios like Bizarre Creations could do a much better job with 2 or 3 more years developing Dreamcast games.

[@JEY74]

revisa los juegos de ATOMISWAVE corriendo en la Dreamcast, son del 2003 en adelante...

[@JEY74]

@@alexpace1783 bla bla bla bla

[@exitplanetduster]

The PS2 has the usual jagged/blurred/washed out look. DC looks more vibrant but also more simplistic

[@Seb66]

DREAMCAST RULE ON THIS GAME🔥

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

Wish there was a way to combine the art styles. The vivid colors and lighting of the Dreamcast really pop, and make everything look way more dramatic and surreal - it represents nothing except for itself. The PS2 is more artistically ambitious, but that means it's easier to compare it to other mediums.

[@exaltedb]

I think the first thing a lot of people would notice is the use of mipmaps on Dreamcast, ps2 shimmers a lot due to the fact they aren’t used at all, but ps2 has a lot more going on in the scene- mainly with particles and effects

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

Particles are actually BETTER in Soul Calibur compared to Soul Calibur 2!

[@southsidetherealest2860]

ps2 was horrible at mip mapping thats why 99 percent of ps2 games have dry dirty looking textures

[@siesque23]

Prefiero el soul calibur de DC por sus colores y me da la sensación que más detallados al menos los personajes, me habría gustado seguir viendo a DC con juegos en 2003 para adelante, tenía un potencial increíble, sega lo hizo realmente bien con la blanquita, que lastima todo

[@JEY74]

mira los juegos de ATOMISWAVE corriendo en la Dreamcast son del 2003 en adelante

[@euripidoeuropoide5943]

El video deja en claro lo increíble que hubiera quedado la segunda parte en Dreamcast.

[@eliasesekyel322]

De echo es la de xbox, yo estaba muy enterado cuando se presentó el prototipo, después cuando se suspende dreamcast todos y absolutamente todos los juegos que estaban planeados para el e incluso ya desarrollados , pasaron a ser del xbox puesto que la arquitectura es muy similar y la colaboración de sega en el es inminente, este era uno de ellos junto con GTA San Andreas , entre otros👍

[@euripidoeuropoide5943]

@@eliasesekyel322
Claro, la versión de Xbox (en cuanto a calidad) es lo que pudo llegar a ser la versión de Dreamcast de haber salido.
Pero me has dejado impresionado no sabía que se había presentado un prototipo, debo aceptar con vergüenza que en aquella época le presté mucha más atención a N64 y Gamecube y no era usuario de Dreamcast.
Si sabes de algún vídeo o noticia al menos de ese prototipo ayudame con un link.
Saludos

[@RetrOrigin]

DC tiene muy poco VRAM y en general no tiene como generar tanta geometria.

[@euripidoeuropoide5943]

@@RetrOrigin
Ah si?
Dead or Alive 2 para Dreamcast tiene más geometría que Soul Calibur 2, y corre a 60fps y es mucho mejor y más resolución que su versión de PS2.
Desbaratado tu argumento
Documéntate más antes de opinar.

[@RetrOrigin]

​@@euripidoeuropoide5943 Hay herramientas para visualizar los modelos exportados de estos juegos.
Y aun sin herramientas es muy facil de entender con solo ver las especificaciones de la maquina. DC solo tiene 8MB de VRAM, con eso apenas alcanza para 3 millones de poligonos por segundo con 5MB dedicados a texturas. Eso es el promedio de casi todos los juegos de DC con muy pocas ecepciones como Le Mans que sacrifica 1MB de texturas en favor de 1 millon mas de poligonos.
Soul Calibur II ronda los 7 millones de poligonos por segundo. En otras palabras DC no le alcanza ni para reenderizar la mitad de lo que se necesita para SOul Calibur II.
DOA 2 es un juego bastante primitivo, los personajes tienen buena geometria, pero a cambio los ecenarios son muy basicos.
No es una cuestion de opinion, es una cuestion de especificaciones y matematicas basicas.

[@andrealexandriadonasciment4374]

Soul Calibur 1 deveria esta em uma coletanea dos jogos da saga edge/ calibur... É o jogo que revolucionou a série com a sua transição e evolução gráfica entre 5ª para 6ª geração, não sei pq ficou preso só ao Dreamcast sem nenhum remaster em nenhuma coletanea...

[@leiafrancisco37]

Sim,isso que não entendo,é o melhor jogo da série! Ele consegue ser melhor que o 2 e 3,jogo é muito a frente do seu tempo!(no dreamcast?

[@megaigor]

ele saiu para Xbox 360 e pode ser jogado no Xone nos Xbox Series S e X

[@andrealexandriadonasciment4374]

@@leiafrancisco37 Entre os 3 eu não fico destacando qual é o melhor, cada um para mim tem sua importância, no caso do 1 é o que foi revolucionário pela transição de geração com seus gráficos... Ja as sequências posso dizer que no cenário do competitivo o 2 e em principalmente o 3 se tornaram os mais equilibrados, destaco o 3 que se tornou a base dos posteriores títulos da série, senso títulos para competitivo na EVO, alem de trazer sempre novos personagens ...

[@andrealexandriadonasciment4374]

@@megaigor Infelizmente parece que é algo com pouco destaque, fora que deve ser daqueles remaster bem meia boca, mas pelo menos não ficou preso no tempo...
Eu espero um dia ver algo feito para os fãs, desde o Soul Edge ate o Calibur 3 em uma coletanea, repleto de conteúdos, arts books e etc...

[@ZinhoMegaman]

@@andrealexandriadonasciment4374 Na verdade é um port mesmo da versão Dreamcast mas rodando em 1080p (1440x1080 provavelmente pois ele permaneceu no formato 4:3).

[@Crystallums]

Both look truly impressive, however each has weaknesses and strengths, for example, the PS2 has a greater number of polygons and elements on the screen, as well as dynamic lighting that helps a lot. For its part, the DC looks sharper and has some better textures, likewise the first part has a great personality in itself. However, the announcer's voice and the music in general are better in SC2... both highly recommended for any collector. 😍❤🌞

[@ElricSowrd]

Banjo Ginga was the original Astaroth, Ryuzaburo Otomo took over in the Japanese Version since Soul Calibur II.
I forgot that Taki's name is written in Katakana.
Yoshimitsu's Second Costume is weird in Soul Calibur II.
I still want a Soul Calibur Collection in the future someday.

[@Greybush46322]

You should compare DC and arcade versions of SC1, or even DC vs 360 of SC1.

[@EduardoSilva-ze8tp]

Dreamcast da um show mesmo com hardware inferior!!

[@pires7spc]

Pode crê.

[@mickeymickey9914]

Wow seems like they ported the characters straight forward

[@dcshooters]

Dreamcast is more than capable of doing sc ii

[@Malheirods]

Not really fair, there are 4 years of difference. A 2003 game on Dreamcast would have looked better than the original Soul Calibur (even if the resolution and image quality are already superior as it is).

[@TreiskadekDevil]

I agree though In a way I also think it shows how well SoulCalibur and the DC held up even in light of SoulCalibur 2 on the other platforms. Would had been interesting to see SoulCalibur 2 on DC if the system stuck around longer.

[@waterheart95]

True and also according to dev interviews on they were holding back on Dreamcast, especially on the poly counts. Since SC on Dreamcast was experiment of what the team can do with modern hardware.
They modeling on the characters on dreamcast use less than 4,500 polygons.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@waterheart95
To be fair, the deadline wasn't the most forgiving, and they were simply upgrading an arcade game - at the time, nobody questioned that these were the best graphics in a home console game, by far.

[@JEY74]

Not really fair Dreamcast is superior...

[@sobesons]

Brutal vídeo 👍🏼

[@ralphfrancisbausa6072]

Samurai X (Rurouni Kenshin) On ABS-CBN Team Animazing

[@recomecoemdeus5844]

Na verdade tudo que saiu para PS2 e Dreamcast faria melhor , A questão é o que já sabemos, A máquina morreu antes do tempo infelizmente, potencial do Dream era monstro

[@VinLwj]

SC 2 is the best for me in the whole series. The SC2 has the best nightmare design as well

[@user-gu7kn3np4y]

Excellent

[@FabricioMatiasVega9923]

dc is better at textures, more audio channels, resolution and lighting for this case, and ps2 is better at polygons, controls, effects and content. A tie for me.

[@personaphantom5543]

Soulcalibur 2 HD online Xbox 360 vs Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection HD PS3.

[@raymundomercado8799]

no te pases puedes ver en las sombras de los personajes de dreamcast todo lo que traen puesto o la espada o arma ,el detalle es woow,,,,y las texturas al rotar la camara ,se ve muy bien,,, y eso que es el 1 ,, ya me imagino como se habria visto el soul calibur 2 para dreamcast,,,, las sombras del ps2 son puras bolas peguadas que aparecen y desaparecen ,,,saludos y gran video

[@peterpereira3653]

To me Dreamcast textures still look sharper and PS2 still has worse AA.

[@MrWhis-fe5hs]

This is honestly a night and day comparison

[@hababacon]

More geometry/triangles on the PS2 version, while not like for like stages, the PS2 stages appears to have more lights. On the flipside the Dreamcast image is almost pristine. Textures are sharper, appears to be running in slightly higher res, and I like the Dreamcast colors better. This one it depends on your taste, but for my dollar I'll take the Dreamcast as the PS2 looks muddy and drabbed.

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

It comes down to what system you owned and when. This was on the Dreamcast in 1999 and the ps2 version was around 2003.

[@hababacon]

@@ViciousAlienKlown I own all systems but didn't buy the PS2 until late 2004 for Metal Gear Solid 3. With that said the PS2 graphics always appeared muddy to me. I had a Samsung 32 inch 1080I CRT and the PS2 looked bad on it. A lot of PS2 games hi res mode is 512X384 if I'm not mistaken so they can either look a tab soft, or a tad too much AA. On the flipside the PS2 could process geometry like nobody business, but was limited by ram to typically 128X128 8bit color textures.

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

@@hababacon Yeah I had the Dreamcast first then bought an Xbox. PS2 was good but I didn't get one until 2004.

[@southsidetherealest2860]

same situation I was mad when dreamcast died I got a ps2 hooked up to my tv and was disgusted with the graphics it was a ugly looking downgrade to see poor image quality it look dirty and rough to me you called it the muddy look its bad😂 I couldnt understand how it killed dreamcast with graphics like that then xbox came out and it was like a generational leap coming from ps2 better everything except particles ps2 wins with particles

[@hababacon]

​@southsidetherealest2860 Very few PS2 games looked good to me. Even the games with progressive scan looked dirty. A lot of PS2 games didn't use mipmapping (this was also typical of Sega AM2 group) and often lowered the color depth from 32 to 16 bit. Early PS2 games didn't use AA at all and would often use 512X384, 512X224, 640x448 resolutions. All are memory saving techniques at the cost of image clarity. What the PS2 was good at was moving around large amounts of low res textures and triangles, but with poor PQ.

[@Boney_M]

ps2 has more details but is to blurry... i like the DC version

[@Rhinestone_Radio]

I like the ps2 version only cause it had a some that gritty look in some of the arenas and during that time i felt ps2 had
More details then the DC version but overall Both version are good imo would if i could go back in time i probably would of gotten the DC version anyways lol

[@darthseth24]

@@Rhinestone_Radio two different games. Dreamcast had soulcalibur 1 exclusive to that system. Soulcalibur 2 was released for xbox, gamecube and ps2.

[@eponymous7910]

PS2 looks amazing in prog scan mode, ditto the DC using vga

[@sebastianperezpinto5520]

Siempre he pensado que dreamcast es perfectamente capaz de correr soul calibur 2. La versión de dreamcast de soul calibur es una versión mejorada de la placa arcade. Soul calibur arcade corre en la namco system 12 que esta basada en play station 1, los escenarios, personajes y las texturas fueron desarrollados pensando en que debía correr en ese hardware. Si bien en dreamcast se mejoró la resolución y poligonos de los personajes dando un gran resultado como se ve en el video, creo que realizar más cambios en la versión dreamcast era realizar demasiados cambios al juego. Una version de dreamcast de soul calibur 2 creo que es perfectamente viable, alomejor no igual pero viable, posiblemente en poligonos podría ser levemente inferior, pero en texturas creo que sería superior, tal cual como hay diferencias entre las versiones de este juego en ps2 ,Gc y Xbox.

[@RetrOrigin]

No lo es. DC solo tiene 8MB de VRAM, con eso apenas alcanza para 3 millones de poligonos por segundo con 5MB dedicados a texturas. Eso es el promedio de casi todos los juegos de DC con muy pocas ecepciones como Le Mans que sacrifica 1MB de texturas en favor de 1 millon mas de poligonos.

[@sebastianperezpinto5520]

@@RetrOrigin depende como se aborde. Es por eso que digo que sería viable, no igual pero viable, tomaré como ejemplo capcom vs snk. Se logró hacer una versión para ps1, no es igual a la arcade ni a la de dreamcast pero fue viable se sacrificaron algunas animaciones, existen tiempos de carga, pero en escencia el juego es el mismo. Otro ejemplo sonic adventure 2 en game cube mejoró la poligonizacion de personajes en comparacion a dreamcast, pero no afecta a la experiencia general de juego en si, el juego es el mismo. En el caso de soul calibur 2 pienso que una conversion 100% absoluta del juego no es posible por la diferencia en poligonos, pero creo que si es viable una version, el mismo video demuestra que con menos poligonos los personajes ejecutan la misma variedad de movimientos que no afecta en el resultado jugable. En cuanto a texturas es un apartado en la dreamcast destaca en general asi que no veo que se viera muy afectada. Los escenarios del juego no son escenarios muy grandes por lo que creo que se podría realizar. Dead or alive 2 en dreamcast tiene escenarios mucho mas grandes que los de soul calibur 2. Si bien es claro que las capacidades del harware influyen, pero depende mucho de como se hagan las cosas y explote este. Más que el número de poligonos que pueda mover el harware es que es lo que haces con los polígonos que tienes disponibles.

[@RetrOrigin]

@@sebastianperezpinto5520 Si de hecho con reducciones tal vez se podria lograr, lo malo es que se deberian realizar demasiados recortes porque Soul Calibur II ya ronda los 7 millones de poligonos por segundo, mas del doble del promedio de un juego de Dreamcast.
Los ecenarios en DOA2 son grandes, pero la geometria es muy basica (compuestos de figuras angulares y pocos poligonos) entonces no creo que sea buen punto de comparacion. La iluminacion en ese juego tambien es muy sencilla.
El Dreamcast es una maquina muy bien diseñada, pero sufre un poco en especificaciones por ser una maquina lanzada a finales del 98.

[@josephinedevera6786]

Please do it with SC1, SC2 and SC3 all together!

[@bigbosssnakecorn8834]

Specially SC I and III stages comparing since SC III is like an “remake” of SC I lol

[@George18798]

@@bigbosssnakecorn8834 SC 3 was a combination of both 1 and 2

[@bigbosssnakecorn8834]

@@George18798 Kinda but most of the ost and stages were from SC I that turned remixed as for SC II stages and music there were as few with barely an remix feel and also it had differences in time of day

[@omarfelipesuarezduany1553]

Para mí el soul calibur de Dreamcast sigue siendo mejor ,por ser el primero pues se ve impresionante,el de Playstation 2 tiene mejor textura pero eso no le quita para nada el mérito al de Dreamcast

[@danielposey0620]

Kinda surprising that Namco didn’t give the ps2 a port of the original Soul Caliber at launch along side Tekken Tag

[@tomianz-1242]

It was a dreamcast console exclusive

[@MH-yp6wg]

The PS2-game is newer and so has many advantages visually over the older DC-game, especially background 3d-elements and textures look better on PS2.
Only thing DC has over the PS2 is that it seems like on PS2, they did not include proper Mip-Mapping, thus you get a lot of texture shimmering and pixel crawling in the distance, which is pretty ugly.
But DC is not flawless in this department as well, since instead of shimmering pixels, you get very blurry and over-filtered textures in the distance at flat angles (like on the floor) since no anisotropic filtering was present.
But man... venice stage looks soooo good on DC!

[@SteveBrandon]

I wasn't sure what the point was comparing a game on an older console to its sequel on a newer console but I didn't know that they reused the same character animations and the Dreamcast holds up pretty well in comparison.

[@chrisw8069]

Soul Calibur 2 on PS2 might look better, but it doesn't run better.

[@ivandelmaschio6189]

Me quedo con dreamcast... pero la ps2 tiene como escenarios más completos...igual es la segunda parte

[@yoquese2.026]

Mas poligonos y mejores sombras en PS2, pero mas nitidez en Dreamcast, ambas lucen de maravilla

[@raymundomercado8799]

hola amigo , estube viendo las sombras de ambos y nada que ver las sombras de ps2 , de lejos se ve una forma ,pero de cerca desaparecen y parecen bolas unidas,,, pero las del sega todo lo poco o mucho que traen los personajes se ve en la sombra la forma de la espada o arma , y las texturas ni se diga , es la vercion 1 ,,, ora si hubiera sido la 2 ',,,saludos

[@CarlosEduStorm]

es alreves jaja las sombras de ps2 no son nisiquiera cerca de ser reales a los personajes, en cambio dreamcast son exactas a los modelos

[@yoquese2.026]

@@CarlosEduStorm pues mira bien, la sombras de Dreamcast están hechas con cuatro polígonos transparentes, las de PS2 son por Shaders.

[@JEY74]

DC sombras dinámicas...

[@sharknatorpiruga7259]

4 anos é muita coisa.. metade da vida de uma geração de consoles fico com DC .

[@kendallmasterssank369]

Nothing compares to Dreamcast.

[@steverogers-realtor8763]

Just decided to lookup up SC2 for shitz n gigglez. I didn't know it was remastered or re released on PS2. The fps look smoother, the characters look better, the arenas and backgrounds are more creative and have more depth. Yes, some detail advances were made but the original concepts and ingenuity are more prevalent in the DC version

[@tomianz-1242]

Nope. Ps2 Is soulcalibur 2

[@bluenomad73]

​
The Dreamcast graphics are a little less detailed, but seem much deeper. Dreamcast is the winner.

[@erisson1santos465]

Dreamcast muito mais detalhes 👍

[@mauriciomascarenhas8458]

"Dreamcast MUITO mais detalhes..." Serio? Kkkkkkkk
Olha os cenários onde a Isabella e a Taki se movem 🤣🤣 A parte de baixo e de cima são completamente preto, nao tem nada! Bagulho mó simples. Vc so pode ta de zuera, quero acreditar nisso. 👍🤣

[@eniofreire2574]

About the graphics visuals, are you using composite or component cable in PlayStation 2?

[@FabricioMatiasVega9923]

probably component. But the dreamcast 480p quality by vga is superior to PS2/GC and Xbox 480p component cable, although not comparable to real 1080i resolution and 720p HD on xbox.

[@realamericannegro977]

Soul Calibur looks best when its dome in these 2 styles. Not even SC6 looks as good as the DC one.

[@mazin9193]

Technically: SC2 > SC1 > Soul Blade/Edge
Artistically: Soul Blade/Edge > SC1 > SC2

[@thieresalcalde758]

Dreamcast conseguia ser incrível pelo fato de ter sido desenvolvido bem antes do ps2 e conseguir ser equivalente em muitos aspectos, uma coisa ou outra é melhor no ps2 e outra no dreamcast, mas são diferenças minimas, o problema foi o fracasso do saturn e o fato da sega já estar falida sem credibilidade e a sega of america ter abandonado o barco, isso sem contar a crise no Japão. Na época

[@satriaariwibowo1118]

DREAMCAST was GOAT !!

[@athos5359]

textures in soulcaliber lack colors vs sc2 on the ps2,also more polygons on the screen on ps2.better resolution and filtering on dreamcast .gameplay= soulcaliber,sc on dc has better music and plays faster as wel maybe better framerate and better animations,rare to see a ps2 game with so good textures.

[@feps9555]

A qualidade de vídeo e textura do Dreamcast sempre foi superior ao do ps2 é uma pena não termos visto o Dreamcast com todo seu auge gráfico explorado ao contrário do ps2 que vimos e muito ,mas mesmo assim algo ainda me diz que no quesito qualidade de texturas o Dream continuaria dando baile no ps2

[@ENFDO]

4 años entre ambos juegos y no hay nada sorprendente por parte de PS2. Sí era sorprendente ver cómo 4 años despues de lanzado Soul Edge para PSX, Namco lo lanzaba para Dreamcast con espectaculares gráficos.

[@marquisballard7283]

I like both of em

[@sloppynyuszi]

The PS2 is better, but it doesn’t seem like a generational leap. I’m sure of the Dreamcast had the sales to last a few years longer, it would have gotten a version of this too, would looks similar with maybe less effects, but sharper visuals, and we would have all been treated to one of the golden axe characters making an appearance.

[@kimitachi22]

Totally
The dreamcast version was release in 1999 and was not a full dreamcast optimised but a arcade boost
If it was exclusively made for dreamcast it would have been more textured then soul calibur 2 on ps2 ( this version was release 4 years later)

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

Less effects? The myth that the PS2 has stronger hardware will last forever, I guess?

[@hellomynameis98]

man, oh man, lighting looks great on the Ps2...but that aliasing? Simply garbage. Definite pluses for both, its pretty easy to see the best of the underrated console for sure. Hopefully they just keep making this game for all systems!

[@JEY74]

no hay comparación...

[@armandomunozosorio4701]

Nunca vi un juego de consola que superara tanto a la versión Arcade por eso prefiero el de dreamcast y lo mismo pasó con el port de tekken tag tournament de ps2 soulcalibur 2 siempre se me hizo aburrido en sus escenarios y música a comparación del uno

[@facundoleonrugerio3245]

En la version de Dreamcast cada personaje tenía su propio escenario eso lo hacía más asombroso en Soulcalibur 2 eran compartidos, ya en 2005 cuando salio esa gran obra Soulcalibur 3 volvió a los orígenes del SC de 1999 y también algunos escenario del SC volvieron al SC3 y los temas eso fue más aún sorprendente y sin personajes invitados.

[@Clesarie]

In reality while sc 2 has better textures everywhere, sc 1 looks way better simply because dreamcast and output via vga and ps2 at best does component.

[@afronautexplorer144]

PS2 has better graphics, but the Dreamcast has better resolution.

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

More textures but blurry. That's not a good trade off.

[@afronautexplorer144]

@@ViciousAlienKlown It is to me. PS2 is capable of pushing more polygons, having better texture and having better overall graphics over the Dreamcast, its a more powerful system.

[@triggeredxbot3251]

@@ViciousAlienKlown PS2 is better. I will take better graphics over better resolution. Graphics is what makes the leap of a console, not resolution.

[@ayrton4856]

Al par de fanboys de Sony, PS2 es inferior tecnicamente a DC, si uno se ve con texturas menos pulidas que la otra, es porque es el SC1, y el otro su secuela el SC2, osea juegos distintos y una comparación injusta, y como ya lo ha dicho la mayoría, si hubiera salido una versión para DC de la segunda parte, por seguridad que visualmente habría sido muy superior que la de PS2

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

@@triggeredxbot3251 The biggest take away us the Dreamcast version came out in 1999. Long before the PS2 game.

[@FZuloaga]

The backgrounds from PS2 but the characters from Dreamcast.

[@thebrutalwarrior56k44]

Originally soul calibur 2 its planned for naomi.

[@alexpace1783]

Considering Namco already released System 246 and Tekken 4 by that time, I fail to see why they would’ve used any other arcade board at the time for SC2, unless you can prove it.

[@thebrutalwarrior56k44]

@@alexpace1783 yes

[@apollosungod2819]

Soul Edge/Blade began on Sony PlayStation or System 11 arcade hardware used by Namco.
The Namco System 12 is a slightly revised buy still the same Sony PlayStation PCB used for arcade use hence the modifications allowed for higher polygon counts than System 11 and consumer PlayStation.
Soul Calibur on Dreamcast is essentially a super enhanced PlayStation graphics game that was given a makeover but still remains a super enhanced PlayStation graphics game...
The Sony PlayStation 2 Soul Calibur 2 goes beyond the graphics definition and polygon count limits however the settings should be set to Japanese cause the English translation and dubbed dialogue just sucks as do some of those voice acting 🙄 🤣

[@vittorioocchionero861]

Dreamcast flawless victory! The first Soul Calibur is on the top 3 of best fighting games of all time, with Street Fighter 3rd strike and Garou Mark of the wolves.

[@Heisenberg-rs6wm]

No hay comparacion solo decir que dreamcast le puso todo el amor unos años antes a este juego. No tiene casi nada de diferencia con playstation.

[@albertodiez4215]

Desde un móvil no se pueden apreciar diferencias técnicas, sobre todo con el cambio de diseños por ser la segunda parte. Pero todos sabemos que DC tiene mayor calidad de imagen, era mucho más barata, salió antes y tuvimos el juego de salida o casi de salida según la región. Una vez sega gana de largo, a excepción del éxito comercial claro

[@thisisgonnabeamatchtoremem4239]

Mano, os fãboys simplesmente desconsidera o fato do ps2 ser mais potente que o dreamcast e acredita que se houvesse uma versão de um game que foi originalmente feito pra um arcade que era praticamente um ps2, ainda assim os fanboys alimentam a ideia que seria melhor no sega Dc, p...que pariu!
8mb Vram milagroso kkkkk
Ridiculos fanboys da sega, sempre se superando!

[@zero-sv6bx]

❤️❤️

[@marcosribeiro2518]

O dreamcast era foda 3 ou 4 anos mais velho mas botava pra quebrar

[@juarezmiranda]

Sei querer tirar não vejo sentindo comparar, mas beleza.